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28 May 2018 20:52:22
Hi Red Men, my take on Saturday now I've sat down and relaxed a bit. I'm an elder statesman, I know the game has changed from the 80s when I was playing, however the fundamentals are the same. When I was playing you always found out who the opposition main man was, he was usually the centre mid or one of the forwards, being a midfielder I always took it on myself to try find out whether he had bottle and then try to bring him down to my level, mainly by getting in a few sly digs in early just to see the response, sometimes they stood toe to toe but a lot of times they would go into their shell, result, a bit of intimidation went a long way.
Sergio Ramos is schooled in the darker arts of football, a very experienced player who is not the best gifted, however makes up for it in guile and a little naughtiness, from his comments before the game you could tell he was going to take it on himself to sort Salah out. I'm not saying he intentionally broke Salah's shoulder, but he as we would say "roughed him up a little^. He got the tackle in and then purposely tried to pull Salah down with as much force as possible.
As I said when I was playing this type of football was common place in the dark days, however we don't tend to see it nowadays, Ramos conned the ref and all watching, he knew what he was doing and got his reward.
My point is not that Ramos had done what he did, my issue is that nobody in the Liverpool side responded! As soon as Salah went off someone should have taken charge instead of feeling sorry for themselves. As soon as I saw the incident the old red rag came out and I though the next chance we have we should have piled through Ramos or another of Reals players.
Someone had to take responsibility and put in a few nasty tackles and got the Liverpool crowd on their feet. The whole stadium was in shock and someone should have woken them up. Ramos knew he got away with it and nobody responded. If that happened to Ronaldo, you can bet your bottom dollar Ramos would be straight through on of the Liverpool players.
We were too nice and have been for a while, what would Sourness had done! Not one hard tackle went in after Salah went off, nothing to get the crowd going, Modric and Kroos should have been targeted second half yet they were let to stroll round unimpeded.
So, my blame is not only with Karius, the senior players must take some blame for not manning up, we lost Salah and they felt sorry for themselves when there was so much to play for!

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06 Jan 2018 12:22:58
My Take on VDD

The most encouraging things were:

In his first game you could see him organising, talking and boll**king.
We have not had anyone like thst since carragher.
I like the way he does not get dragged out to the full back position, he leaves that to the full backS and wide playerS, numerous times last night Louvren would have left his position and got involved in wide positions where in the past he has cost us goals.
For the first time since Sammi we have someone who takes control of the high ball, nearly every high ball he said to everyone" leave it its mine", whereas in the past we have seen forwards bully us and take high balls on their chest or bringing it down and turning on us.
Now we have a real threat on corners, with VDD and Matip we can have a real chance of scoring some important goals.

I know it was his first game but I am old enough to have seen 40 years of center backs at Liverpool and some special ones at that, ever since we lost Sammi we have not had a decent back 2. He is strong, good on the ball, imposing, and most importantly a leader and oeganiser, hopefully he can bring the best out of Matip and Louvren and maybe even our keepers.

Early days but all looks good YNWA.

Evered

1.) 06 Jan 2018 12:49:35
The only bad things I saw yesterday was when he tried to do a fancy flick/ chip when he was the last man, it came to nothing but could have been costly, he also got skinned fairly easily early doors by Bolasie but to be fair he didn’t try and jump in to save the situation and maybe give away a pen.
I agree with you OP that the biggest thing for me was his presence and how he commanded the air. Lovren and Matip are both big lads but just don’t do that, he will maybe come a cropper and not always win the first ball but the rest of the defence need to be ready for the second ball and cover him if he’s left stranded a little.
Overall a decent start and the goal is a great bonus and should hopefully give him confidence and keep the press off his back with regards to the price tag. That goals worth a fair bit in itself.


2.) 06 Jan 2018 13:55:09
For someone who hasn't played much this season, and nothing in the last month, he did well.
Let's just please give him time to settle and develop

What I will say is that I'm looking forward to Ed001's match reviews as I'm sure he is not a fan of VVD.


3.) 06 Jan 2018 15:02:59
Great start to VVD's LFC career, I must say. He is still lacking full fitness and that will come with time. He is a man mountain with supreme ability. That has NEVR been a question. It was if his flaws could be cleaned out and tho we saw a few of them last night, his strengths were also on show. Let's allow him to bed into the team and form a good understanding with his mates in the back line and see what happens.


 

 

03 Jan 2018 10:23:38
Hi all

I think the 6 foot 4" lady is Alisson.

Evered

1.) 03 Jan 2018 10:41:39
Me too. Went browsing for some info about him yesterday, but found he was noted as 6' 3" on FIFA (I know) but afterwards at 6 4 on wikipedia. Fits the bill. Girly name, colleague of Coutinhos. Would love to see him at Liverpool, but I just don't aee us bringing in anpther keeper, before getting rid of Bogdan and one more (preferable Migs)


2.) 03 Jan 2018 11:12:47
We have 4 keepers already chaps. No way we are looking for another.


3.) 03 Jan 2018 11:27:28
It's the transfer window sell 1 or 2 people say nobody would want minolet that straight away tells you how bad he is.


4.) 03 Jan 2018 11:30:51
I think Mignolet has made it obvious that we do need another keeper, I think his days are numbered.


 

 

27 Dec 2017 19:06:58
Hi All posted this back in September, so glad we have got a real defender, in Klopp we Trust YNWA

16 Sep 2017 12:11:47
Hi fellow Reds

Regretfully I'm old enough to remember the glory days so am in a decent position to make comparisons to the good and the bad over the years.
This season, at times the playing style has really impressed and on times I've seen some of the best we have played for many years maybe since the late 80s. The way we can move the ball from back to front with so much speed is fantastic to watch. Interplay between the front 3 and the midfield is seamless. Of all our games we should have blown the opposition away. With Couts and Lallana coming back it can only get better. Klopp for me has been a revelation he is so positive and honest and for some pundits and fans to have a go at him I think is a little unjustified, and here's why.
Over the past 15 years every manager we have had has spent vast amount of our money on dross, we could all list 30 players and more who were second rate players we bought (Kroncamp, el zar, joe cole, etc wow) . Every year we have bought 6, 7, 8 or more players to appease the fans. No thought has been given to the future, only trying to band aid the present, then we were left with players we can't sell.
Now we have a manger who is trying to buy players that he believes will strengthen the first 11 and who can really make an impact and if he can't get the right man then he is prepared to wait (remember the Balotelli saga omg) . People are on his back about VDD, however that's who he wanted and I'm sure his second in line wasn't available. So, he has put his money in his pocket and is prepared to wait. I'm sure he knows we will get VDD in January and if not he has given himself time to look around. He knows if we had spent the extra in the Summer he would not have been match fit until at least mid-October (as Southampton are finding out) . So why not leave him get fit with his club then go for him in January ready to play.
If we get VDD, then our transfers would have been Kieta, Sala, Robertson, Ox and VDD - I'm happy with that!
Klopp I'm sure knows where our problems lie as do all the fans, but I think we should trust him and I'm sure in a very short time he will get it right.
The only thing that's letting us down is individual mistakes made by the same old faces, slowly but surely these will be moving on, just give him a little time.
We are in the Champions league for the first time in 8 years, and on times look world beaters - have patience and Klopp will get it right, I am sure

Evered.
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16 Sep 2017 12:11:47
Hi fellow Reds

Regretfully I'm old enough to remember the glory days so am in a decent position to make comparisons to the good and the bad over the years.
This season, at times the playing style has really impressed and on times I've seen some of the best we have played for many years maybe since the late 80s. The way we can move the ball from back to front with so much speed is fantastic to watch. Interplay between the front 3 and the midfield is seamless. Of all our games we should have blown the opposition away. With Couts and Lallana coming back it can only get better. Klopp for me has been a revelation he is so positive and honest and for some pundits and fans to have a go at him I think is a little unjustified, and here's why.
Over the past 15 years every manager we have had has spent vast amount of our money on dross, we could all list 30 players and more who were second rate players we bought (Kroncamp, el zar, joe cole, etc wow) . Every year we have bought 6, 7, 8 or more players to appease the fans. No thought has been given to the future, only trying to band aid the present, then we were left with players we can't sell.
Now we have a manger who is trying to buy players that he believes will strengthen the first 11 and who can really make an impact and if he can't get the right man then he is prepared to wait (remember the Balotelli saga omg) . People are on his back about VDD, however that's who he wanted and I'm sure his second in line wasn't available. So, he has put his money in his pocket and is prepared to wait. I'm sure he knows we will get VDD in January and if not he has given himself time to look around. He knows if we had spent the extra in the Summer he would not have been match fit until at least mid-October (as Southampton are finding out) . So why not leave him get fit with his club then go for him in January ready to play.
If we get VDD, then our transfers would have been Kieta, Sala, Robertson, Ox and VDD - I'm happy with that!
Klopp I'm sure knows where our problems lie as do all the fans, but I think we should trust him and I'm sure in a very short time he will get it right.
The only thing that's letting us down is individual mistakes made by the same old faces, slowly but surely these will be moving on, just give him a little time.
We are in the Champions league for the first time in 8 years, and on times look world beaters - have patience and Klopp will get it right, I am sure

Evered.

Evered

1.) 16 Sep 2017 13:15:26
Evered, You Beauty! Love your post and I cannot argue with anything you said. Many fans and pundits just spout out nonsense without giving any thought or context to why things are the way they are. Pretty sure had Klopp signed a CB and he started making mistakes (which every player does, btw), they would be saying, "If he could not get VVD, he should have just kept his money" blah, blah, blah you know cos, everyone is a genius after the fact, right?

You also make a good point cos if VVD came in, he still would not be match fit at this time and we would still have been stuck with the CB's we have now BUT I guess the moaners already knew that. Keep those thoughtful, intelligent posts coming, Evered. We really need some perspective on this forum and as a fan base.


2.) 16 Sep 2017 13:29:00
Cheers Bingo, i've been following the Reds a long long time, what im seeing now is the start of a very good side that can really challenge. Ther are on a few peices of the jigsaw left. We have a better bench this year and some good youngsters coming through who need time and patience.
Klopp only needs to concentrate of the back 5 now and we will be off and running, patience is the key.


3.) 16 Sep 2017 13:32:52
Bang on evered and good point also bingo.

Anyone calling for klopp to be ditched must be a utd fan incognito coz they're worried. It is absolutely ridiculous. Simple. The actions of dim wits. The guy has moved the club forward. Let's not forget he secured keita with a really clever little deal. The guy has lost one match. Sort your heads out.


4.) 16 Sep 2017 14:00:01
Klopp is a good manager superred, nowhere near as good as your fans make out and we definitely aren't worried. 🤣🤣🤣.


5.) 17 Sep 2017 04:04:43
Why on earth would we care what Man Utd fans think? I'm only interested in my club, not others.


 

 

 

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28 May 2018 21:08:35
All done, love the way we are doing business.

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18 Aug 2017 18:56:18
Well done Big vid good to hear. With all the nonsense on here it's good to hear people giving their honest opinion. You can only pass on what youve been told. It is a rumour site after all. Please keep posting any news you have.

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24 Jun 2017 21:44:34
If we do get Ox i think there will be a few suprised on here. I think what Klopp is looking for is pace in the side, with Mane Salah and Ox we have 3 options who all can play either left or right and all have amazing pace to break teams down. Ox may even be an option for a wing back if we go to 3 at the back, which is my thinking of the way we will play next season (hence trying for VVD) .

I for one hope we do get him,

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09 Mar 2016 20:59:33
Rossiter's pace is the problem, and injuries have slowed him down even more.

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02 Jan 2018 19:48:51
Max Mayer (The max factor) and Leon Goretzka 6ft 4 (Gorezher)

Just a guess.

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28 Dec 2017 10:29:04
It will be Matip and VDD, or even Gomez. Louvren and Klavan cannot be trusted - too many mistakes.

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17 Dec 2017 19:42:21
Future possible captain?

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16 Sep 2017 13:43:32
Jay

I Agree, however i would not swap Klopp for any other premiership manager, he suits Liverpools passion and fight. I was so dissapointed that we could not bring in the right centre back however that's done now. Watching our defense is just nail biting especially with louvren in there. However top centre backs are few and far, I cannot see anyone around the world who is top class and available. People brandish names about and most of them are not a great improvement on what we've got. We could spend 30 mil on someone who is a slight upgrade however in the long term they will turn into another Charlie Adam or Sahko. We need to be patient and spend big on the right man/ men.

As for the other comment saying our midfied are ridiculously average! have you watched us play! we have torn top teams apart, and if Couts does leave we will have 100 mil plus and Kieta in midfield, people say such nonsense on here sometimes.

We have Couts and lallana to add to the midfield and you call them average, Wow can't beleive THAT!

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16 Sep 2017 13:29:00
Cheers Bingo, i've been following the Reds a long long time, what im seeing now is the start of a very good side that can really challenge. Ther are on a few peices of the jigsaw left. We have a better bench this year and some good youngsters coming through who need time and patience.
Klopp only needs to concentrate of the back 5 now and we will be off and running, patience is the key.

Evered