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11 Apr 2016 13:17:29
Hi EDs

With Liverpool most likely to be looking into goalkeepers this summer, have we looked at Butland, and if we have, do you think we have a realistic chance of signing him.

Seems to be a very good keeper now. Will be a great keeper in years to come.

Thanks for the awesome site.

Dur-red

{Ed002's Note - Butland won't be moving this summer.}


1.) 11 Apr 2016 21:23:13
Hi Ed, is that a known or not likely? Of all the options he'd seem the best to hit the ground running and with room to improve - would already challenge Migs.

{Ed002's Note - You don't know what the word "won't" means? I always had you down as one of the brighter Liverpool supporters.}}


2.) 14 Apr 2016 19:51:18
Fair play Ed, I was letting my hopes get ahead of reading a clear word.


 

 

 

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29 Aug 2016 11:32:26
Hi Ed001

If you have the time.

I would love to get your opinion on the top Elp managers. Take away the money at each club, how would you rate them in terms of tatical knowledge, man management and improving players. Rate Klopp, Wenger, Pep, Jose, Conte, Potch, koeman.

Thanks.

Dur-red

{Ed001's Note - that is really difficult. I will try. I think Ranieri deserves to be in there too.

Klopp is a builder. He builds a side, but it takes time. It is not an over night thing. He looks for players that can be developed into top players, rather than ready made stars. Tactically he is not the best, far from the worst, but he is too intent on entertaining the fans (which I personally prefer) to get involved in just tactically breaking down the opposition, in the way Jose and Conte look to do. He wants to put a team out to nullify the opposition by not giving them time and space to play their game. I love how he wants it to be a team, not just a team of players, but a team of players and fans all pulling in the same direction.

Wenger was light years ahead of everyone when he came in to the Prem. He was using the latest scientific techniques etc, while everyone else was still in the 70s and 80s. Trouble is, he hasn't kept up with the pace of development and so he is no longer ahead of the rest, in many cases he is behind. Still, he has performed a minor miracle to keep Arsenal consistently top four over the last few years. Tactically he went stale, too many similar players in his teams with little variation to the play, now he has got carried away buying powerful players in every window! It is like he is collecting, for a few years it was attacking midfielders, now he has got bored so started collecting defensive midfielders. As for improving players, he is too loyal to the wrong ones, the likes of Wilshire and Diaby, like an over-indulgent parent, so the ones that could have been developed end up stagnating. A really nice guy, highly intelligent, but, in my opinion, he just got a little too stuck in a rut there and needed this summer of investment to revitalise him.

Guardiola is the hardest to judge, had a team so much better than the rest at Barca initially, by the team he left they were barely a match for the two Madrid sides. It is arguable whether that was down to him or the clash of egos he had with Messi which led to him leaving. However, what is not arguable is that he took over the best side in Europe, when he went to Bayern, playing the best football, and turned them into a borefest to watch and oversaw them diminish as a power in Europe. Again though, it is arguable whether that was down to him or the improvement elsewhere, personally I think he is just obscenely overrated, but this is where we will really find out. He has taken over a mainly average Man City side, spent ridiculous amounts of money on mainly average players, but he will be expected, at a bare minimum, to win league titles. I know people are getting all excited over the system he is playing, but I fail to see anything special about it. It is far too complicated for my liking, with little need of those complications, that is why his teams get worse over time, in my opinion. He overcomplicates everything, and that leads to mistakes. He is just lucky that he had the best players, so his team's mistakes were less likely to get punished. Has his coaching ever really improved anyone? I am not so sure. The next few season's we will really get to see. It is all very well saying Messi got better, but was that down to Pep or Messi? The fringe players never improved under him, that is for sure.

Mourinho is a short term winner at the expense of the long term future. He is always intent on winning, but there is no plan for the future of the team he is at. Tactically he is excellent, in that he will set his teams out with a plan to stifle the opposition and it is usually a successful plan. He is far too negative and relies too much on power and play acting/diving/cheating for my liking. His attitude is to win at all costs, with no compunction at all about bending or breaking the rules. Everyone treats his hiding in the clothes basket while at Chelsea as funny, for me it just highlights how little respect he has for the rules of the game or his opponents. I find him and his attitude distasteful. He has shown no interest in developing players, so it is impossible to judge, he does get more out of the players he has than most, but he never looks to bring on youngsters and develop them. He will have to do that now, so it will be interesting to see how he gets on.

Conte is not my kind of manager at all. Tactically limited, his Juve side struggled badly in Europe against any kind of quality. He is more of a firefighter. Someone to come in, steady the ship, get it moving the right way and then move him aside for someone to actually take the club on. Developing players is something that is difficult to judge him on, he really has not had to do that.

Pochettino is a decent enough manager, but he has not shown me anything to think he has the makings of a winner. He is very limited tactically, though his tactic is well drilled and works well usually, he very rarely, if ever looks to vary it. Developing players is difficult to judge him on too, he started off well at Saints, but then looked to buy players, rather than trust youngsters. He is doing a similar thing at Spurs, looking to bring in players, rather than attempt to develop the youngsters there. His dependence on physical prowess over quality on the ball is a hindrance to his team as well.

Koeman had struggled, since leaving the Eredivisie, then went into a good Southampton set up and took it on a level. He is decent tactically, but no more than decent and gets caught out by opponents far too often for my liking. Without the strong set up he inherited at Saints, it will be interesting to see how he does. He will certainly be given the tools to succeed, as Steve Walsh will find him the players. It is up to him to get it right on the pitch. I don't expect him to look to develop youngsters much either, he also looked to buy rather than develop within when he could.

Ranieri is a pure man manager, who looks to get the absolute maximum from his players by setting up his tactics to suit them and concentrating on building a team spirit second to none. He keeps things simple, he plays to his strengths and I love that about him.


1.) 29 Aug 2016 12:27:37
thanks for your time Ed. Nice read and i agree with you on Pep (for now) . Just wish managers like him and Jose to some degree were given a mediocre team with limited funds to really see how good they are. That in some respects is why i hate every one slagging off English managers like Big sam and others who play the long ball and rougher tactics because generally they have to. They cannot outplay the big teams so of course for me they should adopt a style that makes it difficult.

Who would you say was the best tactical manager you have seen? Personally, not sure about tactics but Brain Clough at his best for me was amazing.

{Ed001's Note - Paisley. He was light years ahead of everyone else at the time that is why he won everything. People just didn't keep as close eye on formations etc back then, so they think he just played a 4-4-2 and did nothing else. He played so many different variations of it that you would never hear the end of it if he managed now. He was a genuine genius of a football man.}


2.) 29 Aug 2016 12:52:41
Jose did really well at Porto with limited funds. Taking the team from 5th to 1st and winning the Uefa Cup. Then winning the league again the next season and winning the Champions League. I think £10 million each season was his spend which could be high enough in the Portugese league but very little money for winning 2 European trophies. He has talent, no doubt but he can be a bit of a knob at times lol.

{Ed001's Note - it wasn't limited in terms of Portugese football though. I do agree though, he is a winner. He is also a nice guy who gladly goes out of his way to help others outside of the matches themselves. It is just at the games he is thoroughly dislikeable.}


3.) 29 Aug 2016 13:10:37
Great reply and post ed. Interesting read.


4.) 29 Aug 2016 13:12:39
only thing i don't agree is conte. Conte is top class manager with great reputation throughout europe. His players are willing to die for him. he is tactician but he also knows how to smash teams with less quality. I wouldn't blame his european failiures only to him but to juventus board too. he just needed 2 more seasons to take them where they are now. klopp, simeone, tuchel, schmidt, emery and conte are my favourite managers all round.

{Ed001's Note - if you say so, but his replacement never struggled to succeed in Europe where he failed. Conte is far from top class, he is another overly tactical manager.}


5.) 29 Aug 2016 13:35:58
Does Klopp not alter his style to suit the opposition? I thought that Unai Emery completely done us in the second half. Also, I think players need to make their own decisions at times at the back, instead of trying to pass it constantly when surounded, just smash it, sounds bad but better than conceding posession in a dangerous area (Clyne vs Burnely) .

{Ed001's Note - sometimes he does yes.}


6.) 29 Aug 2016 13:39:10
Excellent wrap Ed. Should be a very very interesting year with some big reputations on the line!


7.) 29 Aug 2016 13:40:48
Only one thing to say ed, brilliant read and a brilliant question initially!

{Ed001's Note - isn't that two things?}


8.) 29 Aug 2016 13:43:33
Thanks Ed, very informative read.


9.) 29 Aug 2016 14:25:03
One of the best things I've read for a while, just one question if I may?
Was it shanks or Paisley who altered or style after we got hammered in Europe, think it was an eastern European team that beat us?

{Ed001's Note - before my time, but I am sure it was Shanks that altered it.}


10.) 29 Aug 2016 14:39:51
What a superb reply 001, great read. Thanks so much.

Who are your top three managers of now, from any league? Are there any which tick all your boxes, as each of the above had one or two downsides.

{Ed001's Note - I don't think there are any managers that tick all the boxes these days, they are all either operating on a shoestring and so forced to develop or they spend rather than develop.

For me, the top 3, though they are all flawed in many ways, are Simeone, Bielsa and probably Allegri. Allegri's success in Europe is why I will lean towards him right now. Simeone works miracles on a comparatively limited budget. Bielsa is just the best coach in the world right now.}


11.) 29 Aug 2016 14:59:42
I feel so lucky so have found this site so many years ago. I love reading the Ed's insight almost as I love the witty put downs.


12.) 29 Aug 2016 15:31:07
Cheers 001. Very insightful read and you've got a class top three there bud.


13.) 29 Aug 2016 16:03:04
Fascinating read - good question OP and thanks ed001 for your views, interesting stuff.


14.) 29 Aug 2016 18:58:45
I agree with Ed001 - Paisley was a tactical genius. he was also quiet, didn't hog the limelight and also absolutely ruthless. He wouldn't think twice about getting rid of a big player and replacing them with something he thought better. He even sold first team players without them even knowing they were up for sale to start with. I think it was Terry McDermott he called over to the side of the training ground and said 'i want you to go and speak to those men over there'. 'Why' says Terry Mac. 'Because I've just sold you to them' replies Quiet Bob.


15.) 29 Aug 2016 19:02:36
So true what you say about Pep making Bayern boring, saw them play Hoffenheim last year and could barely keep my eyes open in the second half although all the german beer was probably having an effect at that point.


16.) 29 Aug 2016 21:04:25
Honestly when Pep was at Barcelona if it had not been for Messi or Villa it would have been very very boring, Villa actually would look to score outside of the box and well we know what Messi did.


17.) 29 Aug 2016 22:11:43
to not win a champions league with Bayern was criminal imo, he had no excuses especially with that team.


18.) 29 Aug 2016 23:02:14
I think ribery said that pep looks to make the most simple things in football more difficult, and he overthinks things that don't need to be.


19.) 29 Aug 2016 21:18:07
Ed001

If you were the owner of any club no matter who and had the choice if any of the onesathat you mentioned who would that one be?

Really would like to know your answer, interesting read on the managers named by the way.

{Ed001's Note - it really depends on the club, every club has its own character. I think Klopp is the perfect fit for Liverpool, but I don't think he would suit many other clubs in English football. Bielsa would be great if you had a lot of youngsters and only wanted a short term coach, as he would end up quitting after a season, but it would be an incredible season. Each has their own merits and it would really depend on what you needed as to which manager would be best.}


20.) 30 Aug 2016 01:31:28
Great read, Ed. I agree with you on Conte. He was awful in Europe and didn't even make it out of the group stages while Allegri (who I love since he won the Serie A with Milan after finishing 16th with Cagliari the year before) took the very same team to the CL final the year after Conte left. I also agree with the facts about Mou, Pep and Ranieri. Pep took a fantastic Bayern team that won everything under Heynkes with free flowing attacking football and turned them into a snooze fest and a perennial failure in the CL. He will have a rude awakening in the PL, I reckon. As for Bielsa, he's wonderful but has got a few loose screws if you get what I'm saying.

{Ed001's Note - Bielsa is a mad genius. I love his work. Look at what he did while in charge of Chile, turned them into one of the powerhouses of South America, brought through Sanchez, Vidal etc. Trouble is that madness has got stronger in recent years.}


 

 

29 Aug 2016 11:32:26
Hi Ed001

If you have the time.

I would love to get your opinion on the top Elp managers. Take away the money at each club, how would you rate them in terms of tatical knowledge, man management and improving players. Rate Klopp, Wenger, Pep, Jose, Conte, Potch, koeman.

Thanks.

Dur-red

{Ed001's Note - that is really difficult. I will try. I think Ranieri deserves to be in there too.

Klopp is a builder. He builds a side, but it takes time. It is not an over night thing. He looks for players that can be developed into top players, rather than ready made stars. Tactically he is not the best, far from the worst, but he is too intent on entertaining the fans (which I personally prefer) to get involved in just tactically breaking down the opposition, in the way Jose and Conte look to do. He wants to put a team out to nullify the opposition by not giving them time and space to play their game. I love how he wants it to be a team, not just a team of players, but a team of players and fans all pulling in the same direction.

Wenger was light years ahead of everyone when he came in to the Prem. He was using the latest scientific techniques etc, while everyone else was still in the 70s and 80s. Trouble is, he hasn't kept up with the pace of development and so he is no longer ahead of the rest, in many cases he is behind. Still, he has performed a minor miracle to keep Arsenal consistently top four over the last few years.


1.) 29 Aug 2016 11:58:20
Eeeeeed, where is the rest of your post :>>.

{Ed001's Note - just posted it now. Sorry.}


 

 

23 Aug 2016 12:57:21
Hello Eds

The transfer window closes in a week.
Anything happening the Balotelli?

Thanks.

Dur-red

{Ed002's Note - There is nothing new.}


1.) 23 Aug 2016 13:57:22
Should play him tonight . put him in the shop window sort of speak . He is taking wages, might as well use him.


2.) 23 Aug 2016 14:08:04
I for one would actually like to see him play tonight.


3.) 23 Aug 2016 14:14:19
His price will go down if he gets the chance to show his value!

Maybe just raffle him off and get what we can from ticket sales.


4.) 23 Aug 2016 14:18:36
Yeah because Ings and Origi will be well chuffed to get left on the bench whilst Mario gets game time!


5.) 23 Aug 2016 14:49:24
"Raffle him off" amazing!


6.) 23 Aug 2016 15:41:22
I would like to see ings and origi up top in a 442 system.


7.) 23 Aug 2016 16:30:42
Maybe we should actually put him in a shop window, we'd get some more money back that way. 😄.


8.) 23 Aug 2016 17:22:54
The only shop window we'd be able to get him into is Homebargains.


 

 

26 Jul 2016 11:17:07
Hello EDs

What's your opinion on the flanno loan move. Good for his development? A way to get him out?

Cheers.

Dur-red

{Ed001's Note - just a chance for him to get some regular football. Not a good idea in my opinion. He should have been given that with us.}


1.) 26 Jul 2016 12:30:05
Edd001 there was nothing stopping flannaghan from being our first choice right back. He needed a few league games under his belt but we accommodated players who were terrible last season such as moreno can't even defend . I'm angry at this decision to be honest.


2.) 26 Jul 2016 12:20:02
Over who though Clyne or moreno?


3.) 26 Jul 2016 13:02:17
Either. None of them two know how to defend properly. Both rash and give silly fouls away! But preferably flanno on the right for me although he's done a good job on the left when played there. A full backs first job is to defend and sadly our two first choice can't do it.


4.) 26 Jul 2016 13:12:37
I don't really understand why Clyne gets such a hard time.


5.) 26 Jul 2016 13:19:43
Think it's a good move myself. If he proves his fitness and form then he will come back and take the right back slot, he's not going to do that with clyne still here though who is currently seen as the safe bet and more reliable currently, despite being ineffective.


6.) 26 Jul 2016 13:21:00
love flanno. no he not a favourite of liverpool fans but reminds me of gary neville who was a top class right back defended first. as for are to they are not that good going forward to crossing very poor.


7.) 26 Jul 2016 13:34:39
Flan no is a huge favourite among Liverpool fans mate. His name is constantly being touted as an in house replacement for Moreno and often in his preferred position ahead of Clyne. I've even seen him mentioned by some posters as a candidate for a DM position. We love Flanno on this site.
Personally, I'd like to see him prove his fitness and if it needs to be elsewhere just now, then so be it. Moreno is our weakest link and Clyne, in my opinion, has not proven to be an upgrade on Glen Johnson! But the top of the premier league could prove to be a tough proving ground after such a long lay off. Hopefully he'll come back git and firing at right back.


8.) 26 Jul 2016 13:37:22
I'm very surprised we are allowing Flanno to go out on loan. In my opinion he's a much better player than Clyne (who I quite like also) . Flanno can play anywhere across the back, albeit he is best and most comfortable at RB.

Furthermore, I'm very surprised Brenda hasn't came in for him if it was clear he was available. Celtics defence is shocking and Flanno is likely to get Champions League football up there.

Also, although Rogers gets a lot of stick on here (the vast majority of it deserved), Flanno was one of the players who came on a lot under him and seemed to enjoy his style of football. If anything he has regressed under Klopp.


9.) 26 Jul 2016 13:38:29
I may not agree with the move but I understand it. Flanno needs to get back to full fitness and can only do that by playing every week. Is he better than Clyne when both are in form? Absolutely. See his 13/ 14 season when he was injury free so no arguments there. We have to give him every chance of getting back to that level hence, the move is good for him. As for Clyne getting a hard time Farno, it`s simple. He`s not good enough and even Klopp knows that which is why we are scouting RB`s at the moment.


10.) 26 Jul 2016 14:08:54
This move makes sense. Flanno has missed the best part of two years due to his terrible injury, basically had his knee re-built, all through a key stage in his professional development (given his young age) . Klopp clearly considers regular game time at a club where the training intensity won't be as agreesive as his for the squad this season as more important for the future of Flanno. Not having a game here or there with us this year. He will be back for next season fighting for the RB position no doubt!


11.) 26 Jul 2016 14:09:42
Black Raven how can you say he has regressed under Klopp? the lads been injured for a couple of seasons now and weren't upto the pace of the premier league when cleared for duty, so Klopp didn't risk him. I would love to know your reasons behind the regressed under Klopp comment.


12.) 26 Jul 2016 14:10:26
How has he regressed under Klopp? He's not been fully fit!


13.) 26 Jul 2016 14:20:51
Yes gents, you're right. He has been out with injury for a long time, but he's been injury free for 6 months or more. How long before he is fully fit? 2 years?

He a was shocking in a few games last season, especially Southampton when he had the armband!

Does anyone disagree that he improved a lot under Rogers? All i'm saying is it wouldn't hurt us or him to work with Rogers for another year to get fit and get his confidence back. If he goes to Burnley it'll be back to the wall defending for a full year and that's not what he needs. He needs to be playing football and come back next year to be our 1st choice RB.


14.) 26 Jul 2016 14:20:58
I love Flanno but I think Klopp wants a modern full back who can defend as well as attack. Flanno is a very good defender but he lacks the ability to attack at pace and take on a man. Maybe this is something that will come with further fitness and the opportunity to play regularly. Whereas Moreno is the opposite, poor defender but at times demonstrated he can attack. Clearly Klopp is looking for a quick defender with good positional sense who can attack/ defend.


15.) 26 Jul 2016 14:44:22
Massive fan of Flanno. He is very solid defensively, and very good on the ball.

But I don't think an argument for him playing can be founded on Moreno and Clyne giving away too many fouls. Flanagan is equally as guilty for conceding free kicks. The difference is his are cynical because he isn't quick enough. Clyne and Moreno are cynical because their positioning is awful.

My main argument for Flanno playing is that he is much better at sticking to his man when the ball comes into our third of the pitch, and that he is also much better than them on the ball. His passing, control and composure is light years ahead of Clyne's and Moreno's.

Flanno can actually cross it better as well, however his complete lack of pace prevents him from regularly getting into crossing positions. On the contrary, Clyne and Moreno have the pace to get into good positions but couldn't cross a letter 'T', let alone a football.

It is a massive shame Flanagan is so slow and massively lacks the athleticism to turn quickly. It is the main thing holding him back. If he can get a season under his belt, hopefully he can reclaim some of the agility he has lost through injuries. Whilst he was never quick, he was never this diabolically slow before!

I know football should not be based on physical attributes, but the modern English game is so quick that you need to have it to some degree. The only position I could see him getting away with it to some extent is holding midfield. He is definitely good enough on the ball to play there, and his lack of pace would be less exposed in a position where he is not the last line of defence and doesn't have to stand up to flying wingers for 90 minutes.

Sadly, we do not play with a dedicated holding midfielder, and I don't think Flanno has the mobility to play in a two man midfield.

I fear his career lies elsewhere.


16.) 26 Jul 2016 15:55:28
Shame we can't mush Flanno and Moreno together. While his final ball isn't always the best, Moreno does get forward and create. Past centre Flanno looks a bit lost for ideas.

{Ed001's Note - he seemed to know what to do when he got forward against Spurs did Flanno. I have no idea which two players you have been watching as Moreno offers nothing in terms of creativity or movement.}


17.) 26 Jul 2016 16:11:59
i did mean gary neville was not a fans fav not flanno.


18.) 26 Jul 2016 16:23:38
Completely agree with Moreno's movement, Ed, and I think I was referring more to his ability to get forward, get the ball and make attempts. His hit ratio is low, but the sheer number of attempts brought on by his attacking desire (and lack of defensive ability, I'll grant) has at least given some potential. It's as my brother-in-law says, "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut. " I feel there's something there going forward that can be refined, but I don't disagree with you or any of those who cringes when he gets the ball.

Ultimately, there's probably not enough brains in the lad to really succeed here. Shame, because the desire is there.

As for Flanno, it's much the same. Defensively very strong, and while he absolutely has had a few cracking games going forward, I personally find him far too inconsistent at this stage. However he's still young, and if Klopp feels regular play for another side will help home his abilities - particularly moving forward, I'm happy to see a loan move to accomplish that task.

Possible he's going out to get the spotlight off him briefly so he can progress without the glaring eyes of the media and day-to-day 'Pool fans? Might be something in that.


19.) 26 Jul 2016 16:25:38
If this move happens I'll be even more confused than I already am. We need two players for RB next season, a first choice and a back up, whichever one it is Flanno should be one of them. If he does go who will be our second? Randall? Gomez? I don't think either are better options. Again Klopp appears to have a masterplan I can't quite follow.


20.) 26 Jul 2016 16:27:26
I for one was hoping flanno would of been pushing Clyne all the way this season for the rb spot. But if jurgen klopp thinks it's best for him to have a season loan to get fully fit there has to be assurances he gets game time and comes back next season raring to go. Still dissapointed though. GOOD LUCK FLANNO.


21.) 26 Jul 2016 16:30:03
The injuries that flanno has had Black Raven are not easy to get over believe me, nor the ones suffered by Ings and gomes, I suffered an acl injury 2 years ago and still recovering fully after surgery. Now yes it's different these lads have the top end physios and medics around at their place of work every day but these injuries affect you for life not just the recovery stage. So to say that he has regressed under Klopp because he had a bad few games in the only 6 months that he has been fit in three years is absurd. He may continue to pick up niggles next season too because he will always be recovering from those injuries.


22.) 26 Jul 2016 16:39:52
If flanno has his back to the wall, non stop defending while at burnley he will at least be tested while on loan.
Really hope he returns the player he was before his injury.


23.) 26 Jul 2016 18:06:14
Only thing I'd want to give Flanno from Moreno is his pace.


24.) 26 Jul 2016 18:32:26
Flanno looked a shadow of his pre injury self.

He needs regular football to get back to his best, or at least have a chance of doing so.

Fingers crossed for you Flanno and hopefully we'll have you back at your best for us at Anfield soon.


25.) 26 Jul 2016 19:34:45
I think it is a good move for Flanagan to prove his fitness, and to get regular football in the PL. If he is good enough (and almost everyone here thinks he is), he will become their starting RB, adapt to their manager's style and come back to us next summer when we can assess him alongside Clyne and Randall. Burnley will be hoping to stay in the PL and they could use the style of play Flanagan brings. And I would never want to see Flanagan playing central midfield against the likes of Hazard, Silva, Mkhitaryan etc and again some of these comments are way over the top IMO.

I am not a big fan of Clyne, and I agree he can't pass a ball to save his life, but he is at the moment a lot better and more suited to Klopp's style than Flanagan. Liverpool are not scouting any RBs and random made up nonsense along those lines does not strengthen ones argument.

As for Randall, who at times play as a defensive midfielder during his youth days, he was not one who stood out but he does have a chance to cement his place in the squad as a solid back up.


26.) 26 Jul 2016 19:49:53
I'd have Flanno over Clyne in a heartbeat - Flanno might not get forward with the same vigour as Clyne but, when he does, he is far more effective and can actually find a man (unlike Clyne) . He also has a much better sense of his defensive responsibilities and in particular his positioning - something Clyne is not great at. I find loaning him out a bizarre and unnecessary move and one which makes little sense - he has the right mentality though and if anybody can make the best of it, and improve themselves, it is Flanno. Good luck to the lad - I hope he returns in a season and make the RB spot his own.


27.) 26 Jul 2016 20:28:59
Flanno is a million times better than Moreno!

Glad he will get play time but agree with Ed01 that he should have been getting that with us. How Moreno played over him ill never know. Flanno on left is still far better than Moreno.

{Ed041's Note - I cant see why you have let him go out on loan, he looked the business before his injury


28.) 26 Jul 2016 20:51:00
I'm also puzzled as to where people get the idea that Clyne can't defend from. He is probably one of the best right backs in the premier league. And as an outsider he should have kept his position as 1st choice for England ahead of the brainless walker. Not saying he's the best ever but there are hardly a lot of high quality defenders around. He is steady and can get forward well at times too.

{Ed041's Note - Clyne can get pulled around to easy, better attacker than Glenn Johnson but equally bad defender imo.


29.) 27 Jul 2016 06:55:09
@ Kopdogs - have you watched Clyne at all? He is woeful when he gets forward. He finds good positions and space but what does he usually do in such positions? Headless chicken cross, misplaced pass or failed attempt to take on his man. He is awful going forward in fact I would even argue that Moreno (as bad as he is) is better going forward! And as for defence? He gets skinned too easily, doesn't have a good physical presence or bite in the tackle. As our team currently stands if I was an opposition manager my only instructions would be 'play it out wide - pressurize the fullbacks' because you know that, if you do that, you will have success against our team. Both our fullbacks are miles away from being good enough - which makes loaning out Flanno all the stranger as he is better than anything we have at the club. If it is a fitness/ long-term injury concern then that is a different story but if Klopp believes Clyne and Moreno better than he see's something I (and many fans) do not.


30.) 27 Jul 2016 13:06:02
Better attacker than Glen Johnson?! Clyne is a fluttering mess when inside the opponent's third of the field. He looks uneasy on the ball, can't thread a pass and can't cross. Johnson had much more guile and composure on the ball. I think back to when Johnson scored that late winner at the Bridge, and I can't imagine Clyne being able to do the same thing he did.


 

 

14 Jul 2016 17:32:46
Thanks for the memories Martin Skrtel and best of luck.

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23 May 2016 17:39:19
Hi EDs

Any idea when will UEFA announce how long Sakho ban will be.

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - The date of the ghearing has yet to be announced, but LIverpool are back in front of UEFA for the latest charges on July 21.}