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13 Jan 2018 22:57:47
Must say eds patience of a saint the last few days credit where its due. Question apart from the fact that klopp obviously doesn't think gomes is ready who do you think should partner virgil tomorrow to combat aguero.


{Ed002's Note - Lovren if fit.}

1.) 13 Jan 2018 23:04:38
I would have said the same myself but lots on here would disagree.

2.) 13 Jan 2018 23:13:43
Usually I'd of said Lovren, but going on Klavens form the past month or so he's really stood out to me so I'd have to choose Klaven. As long as it's not Matip, I'm happy.

3.) 13 Jan 2018 23:30:48
Klavan got torn apart by city's pace before, I'd chose lovren - but most games I'd go with klavan.

4.) 13 Jan 2018 23:43:28
Lovren. Anyone's better than Matip actually. Klavan is a LCB like VVD so they would not work well together since VVD is weak on the right side of defense.

5.) 14 Jan 2018 00:33:10
Anyone's better than Matip.? If Matip plays, I hope he scores the winner just for you.

6.) 14 Jan 2018 01:05:35
Have u seen Matip play? He is lazy, slow and cannot tackle. I would rather someone who at least tries. VVD and Matip will not work well at all.

{Ed0333's Note - the unfortunate thing is Matip looked the real deal when he first signed what a shame he fell into bad habits on the pitch could have been a real player for us Buzzer.

7.) 14 Jan 2018 01:38:11
Agreed ed0333. i've always said when he joined he looked like a great player, then slowly just got lazier and lazier and got worse as time went on. I honestly think the quality of the players around him had something to do with it, but now is the present and he hasn't looked arsed for a long time.

{Ed0333's Note - The really good players rise above mediocrity and show their caliber Woolback. Matip had everything at his disposal, the physical attributes, talent and a coach who believed in him and he still hasn’t delivered. He still has time to pull his finger out let’s hope he does because there’s a player in there somewhere.

8.) 14 Jan 2018 02:05:57
I still believe in matip. But tbh, our defenders haven't been doing too bad lately. Still, matip is better quality than lovren and klaven. Its going to be good to see matip with a quality partner. Having matip and vvd together will not only improve us defensively but make playing out from the back much more effective and they're much better for set pieces too. I would avoid using lovren and klavan in big games. klavan is too slow and lovren just lacks quality. These 2 struggle to keep up with the best of players. Good to have in the squad though.

9.) 14 Jan 2018 03:37:08
Matip just needs a few iron bolts screwed into him to harden him up and he needs to cut the laziness.

10.) 14 Jan 2018 02:13:58
I agree Ed - liked him when he first arrived and felt he just needed to get used to the physicality of the league, but he’s getting into bad habits of late and doesn’t tackle back and leave it all on the pitch like he needs to, he almost seems timid.

{Ed0333's Note - it’s at best disrespectful to the fans and the club and at worst he’s stealing a living. I hope VVD’s arrival wakes him up and we see the Matip of when he first arrived.

11.) 14 Jan 2018 08:54:45
Well let's hope he has a good game then. Otherwise I predict the normal player bashing for a player that " used to be good but now anyone is better than" Maybe we could change the page to Liverpool bashing or Matip bashing or Can bashing or anyone who has a bad game bashing. By the way I'm not saying he's the best defender we've ever had but if he gets picked he gets my support.

12.) 14 Jan 2018 09:07:58
This time last season we were raving about how good Matip was. He still has the attributes to improve with us especially now VVD will be alongside him. It's amazing how critical we are now of Matip but if someone mentions Henderson we are quickly reminded of his form from about 5 seasons ago. Amazing how we shift the goal posts for certain players.

{Ed001's Note - I wasn't raving about Matip. Excellent on the ball as he is, defensively he is awful, nothing to do with form, he just isn't a good defender.}

13.) 14 Jan 2018 09:27:15
What I pointed out about Matip is true Farmerfc. He is a very poor defender and we ain't progressing with players like him. LOvren might actually do well along side a leader like VVD who organises the backline but Matip is just Matip no matter his partner. He lumbers around, fails to win crucial headers, gets turned inside out etc. You should pay more attention to him when the game is on and you will see what I am talking about.

14.) 14 Jan 2018 09:48:35
IB I'm not saying Matip is any good but you have pointed out that Lovren might do well alongside VVD. So why doesn't that stretch to Matip might do well alongside VVD. In fairness I'm not sure why having VVD in there is going to stop Lovren making error after error and poor decision making by jumping into tackles he doesn't win. For me I would have Klavan there or even go as far as Gomez. Yes Gomez might be learning and make mistakes but we know Matip, Lovren and Klavan will definitely make mistakes in there next to the possibility of Gomez might make them centrally.

15.) 14 Jan 2018 09:51:03
Yes I like Lovren too. I like all the players and I have stated in the past that Lovren and VVD might form a good partnership. What I don't agree with is saying that anyone is better than him. It's a load of rubbish. He's not the best we've ever had but he is decent. I don't agree with Ed. I think he is okay defensively but I think it's just a case of him not having the physical attributes to succeed in English football.

16.) 14 Jan 2018 09:52:08
And I pay plenty of attention thank you. I'm just not into bashing any 1 player.

17.) 14 Jan 2018 19:40:13
I too am hoping the arrival of VVD can improve Matip too. In his first 6 months we were all singing his praises thinking he was a steal so let's hope for a positive influence. Certainly VVD isn't shy in barking out orders on the pitch and would give him a mouthful if he slacks off. It's whether he wants to listen.



09 Jan 2018 13:06:18
Sorry for your loss ed.


{Ed001's Note - thank you very much Brian.}

1.) 09 Jan 2018 14:12:41
So sorry for your loss ed.

{Ed001's Note - thank you Marv.}



04 Aug 2017 21:18:15
I have been impressed with wisdom tonight anyone else think he was worth a shot.


1.) 04 Aug 2017 22:13:44
I always thought Wisdom was worth a shout as cover for both RB and CB.
But you also need to wonder about his prospects, he obviously wanted to be a regular and he was never going to get that with us.

2.) 05 Aug 2017 00:50:44
Not good enough.



03 Aug 2017 22:55:40
Well neymar done and 200 million for barcelona. Eds thinks couts won't be sold. Will be curious to see if Barcelona sign anyone now if not then surely it will be agreed for couts next summer.


1.) 03 Aug 2017 23:14:50
Frankly, I don't think they can wait another year since the team seems to need a massive overhaul. I think they'll go back to their first choice (Veratti) and try to resolve the problem (s) there or go for someone else.

2.) 03 Aug 2017 23:31:17
Aparently verrati is sounded out as a replacement for iniesta as is couts but if I had to pick a replacement for neymar between the two it would be coutinho.

3.) 04 Aug 2017 00:37:18
It's not a replacement for neymar it's a replacement for iniesta and Veratti is their 1st choice of the two but they can't get him and Couthino is 2nd in line and desperate to join them. Personally I would be very proud if Liverpool had actually stuck to their guns and said our players are not for sale at any price until WE decide they are surplus to requirements. And still stick a large price tag on said person then if they are extremely confident about getting the asking price, not asking mad money for
Sakho- markovic etc. Pains me to say it but those types of players should be written off the books and try and recoup whatever they are offered within reason and try and not make mistakes like that happen again. There's a lot of thinning out to do in the squad and not much happening.

4.) 04 Aug 2017 01:40:27
"he is desperate to join them" - source for this please, or are you just basing it off this site?

5.) 04 Aug 2017 03:16:01
I hope Barcelona get neither Coutinho or Verratti. Time for that club to face the music that they dished out to other clubs in the past.
Nice to see other clubs come to the fore and at least make an attempt to stop the La liga duopoly of Real and Barca.

6.) 04 Aug 2017 04:38:49
giantkey RTP if you want a source for the basis of that comment, it's common knowledge to people who actually know who and what they are talking about and not actually being argumentative and wearing red tinted glasses. If you don't have the intelligence to understand what has been clearly stated and prefer to live in a bubble where no player would ever dream of leaving the club, well then your fooling nobody only yourself.

{Ed001's Note - then you are overstating it. He is not 'desperate' to join them, but it is a move he would like to make.}

7.) 04 Aug 2017 05:03:59
Didn't mean to come across as overstating but did he not approach certain Barcelona players last year in regards to any potential Barcelona may have in him joining them as a player in the not too distant future.

{Ed001's Note - players talk about stuff like that all the time, it is not an 'approach', it is players having a chat.}

8.) 04 Aug 2017 07:42:41
He is not 'desperate' to leave at all, a stupid choice of word. He wants to go to Barcelona and everyone and their dog knows that. ask wondersparky. let's see how strong we really are and see what happens. Either way Ill be singing Youll never walk alone just before the match starts and finishes.

9.) 04 Aug 2017 08:00:29
You know what I'm really not that concerned re PC going if we got near on 100 mill for him, I'm more concerned we haven't addressed our defence. We have players who can do a job for PC in my opinion we haven't got players who can lead at the back an organise a set piece though.
Just an opinion!

10.) 04 Aug 2017 10:37:38
Someone made a great assessment on here the other day. Coutinho has five years left on his contract, no buyout clause, its a world cup year so he needs to perform regardless of where he is, if he has a good season in the champions league and world cup his price rockets. We are in a great position to keep him this summer so unless he hands in a transfer request I don't think he'll go.

{Ed002's Note - You do understand that he wants to leave?}

11.) 04 Aug 2017 11:11:02
How comes ed01 and ed02's replies differ so much?
Ed01 makes it sound like he's open to the move but would also stay but ed02 makes it sound as though he wants the move.
Which one is it? Plus ed02 what difference is it if a player who's under contract is made to stay and play?

{Ed002's Note - Coutinho wants to move hence all of the efforts from him and his agent. I don't understand the second question.}

12.) 04 Aug 2017 11:37:53
I know he wants to go Ed but he is not in a great position to force a move. It's not like he will walk away for free next summer and he can't really sulk if we keep him because if he wants to get into the World Cup team, he needs to play and play well.

{Ed002's Note - I don't recall ever saying that he was in a position to force a move.}

13.) 04 Aug 2017 11:57:46
Never said you did Ed. I just posted a comment. I wasn't holding you to anything you'd said I was just backing up my earlier comment.

14.) 04 Aug 2017 12:06:17
Sorry for not making it more clear what I meant was. Kieta's club has made it quite clear he's not for sale but apparently he's open to the move. I'm not in the know just what I've read so correct me if I'm wrong. However after testing their stance albeit a little cringe worthy it seems we've given up as they're standing fast. In liverpools case are we open to sell him if the right offer comes in or is he not for sale?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool keep putting a price on the player. If they don't want to sell then perhaps the club, not Klopp, should make that clear.}

15.) 04 Aug 2017 12:31:23
Ed02 thanks for the reply. That makes the situation a little more clearer.



19 Jun 2017 22:12:00
Hi eds if yis are about, correct me if im wrong her I fully understand we need to spend to keep up with all of our competitors but we did finish fourth last season. which we would have taken at the start of the season but apart from the wobble we had around january we would have been up there so why sign loads of expensive players when we only need to change lb and winger and the players we have finished fourth together they will be better for the experience.


{Ed002's Note - It would have been another disappointing season for the owners and Klopp now wants to make changes.}

1.) 20 Jun 2017 10:15:09
Because we just managed to finish 4th with early elimination from the domestic cups which the fans will not accept again and with the added European games we need a team that can compete on all levels thus the need for added players. All players are expensive and if we want to compete at the level the fans demand we need to spend big on players that are proven quality.




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13 Jan 2018 22:51:15
Howdy bam.





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13 Jan 2018 23:04:38
I would have said the same myself but lots on here would disagree.




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10 Dec 2017 21:13:45
Say what ye want about carra but he speaks the truth. I personally think team selection cost us west brom at home next is when we should have rotated not in a Merseyside derby only 1 of them matches was going to be a banana skin 7-0 during the week and rotate for a rest these men get paid a lot of money to do something they love rest should very rarely come into it I work 50 plus hours a week in a job I don't particularly like but I don't get rotated for rest I wish.




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18 Nov 2017 22:13:43
Second that credit where its due I am really happy to see a player want to stay and fight forhis club career npt about money or contracts just about wanting to do his bestdinner for liverpool #respect alberto.




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05 Aug 2017 23:20:09
Klopp has hinted that buisness is done and people are jumping the gun for starters sly sports talk rubbish secondly he is hardly going to say we are trying to sign a b and c whatever happens let it be I will support my team through thick and thin regardless of what money is spent.




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03 Aug 2017 23:34:41
Completely agree with you uefa will do nothing about it the fat cats at the top of the table will be laughing all the eay to the bank.