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07 Jun 2019 08:34:29
Don't agree we don't need to spend to bring in another front 3 attacker. Whilst I agree Origi made a massive contribution in the last half of the season he is not a first team regular and Brewster hasn't even really played first team football. We need real competition for the front 3 somebody who is at the same level as those 3. We are playing in the charity shield, super cup, world club championship, and cl, pl, . fa cup, league cup, and most of our players will be playing international matches. You cannot expect the front 3 to play in every one of those. Putting out the reserves in the . ca and league cup will result in us being knocked out as last season proved.

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1.) 07 Jun 2019 09:52:42
Kinda agree with your saying Alwaysred. I’m sure we will bring a few in mate but not at the 60-80M figure more likely 20-30M youngsters that Klopp can work on to improve. Expect Brewster and Origi to rotate and get more game time next season.


2.) 07 Jun 2019 09:56:18
I think what the Edd's have been eluding to is that it's hard to bring in someone of the same level as our front 3 (world class) just to have him sit on the bench for large parts of the season. Someone of that caliber will not be cheap so how do A. Justify an 80million plus bench player, B. convince that player he'll get more than 30 EPL games C. Keep that player happy on the bench. No club in the EPL have that bar City and even those players want to leave for lack of game time.


3.) 07 Jun 2019 10:15:26
Let's not forget that last season was really the first full season klopp had with origi, and while he won't really improve his technical ability, he definitely looked like he was playing the way klopp wants his players to play, full of desire and hard work. Origi, Brewster, Shaq and one more younger player would do me for backup. The more games they play, the better they'll perform and not be so rusty when they're called upon.


4.) 07 Jun 2019 10:18:45
I agree with the OP and would disagree slightly with Zep and Virg.

We keep calling this 4th attacker a ‘bench option’ which makes me think of Mike Hooper who got around 15 games in the 2 centuries he seemed to be on our bench 😂

Instead, I see this person as a viable, feasible rotation option.

Let’s assume we continue to play 433, so we have 3 front players who are Firmino, Salah and Mane

If we end up playing 60 games next season, that’s 180 games for the front 3.

There will be injuries, loss of form and tiredness, so I think 40-45 games each is about right, which would leave around another 50ish games for other options to take. Currently, we have Origi, who has scored some massively important goals but also not bossed games, Brewster, who looks a great talent but is unproven as yet, and Shaqiri who has been inconsistent. I see Ox and Lallana as playing from midfield rather than covering the wingers.

One more forward in that mix, like Pèpè, shouldn’t upset the apple cart. There’s plenty of games to go round, and as someone else mentioned yesterday, there’s no smoke without fire re Salah, and having someone else ready to take his place, having already spent time at the club is a good thing.

I don’t think we will get more than one forward (without departures) but I reckon we will get one, who had the flexibility to play across the front 3.


5.) 07 Jun 2019 12:45:34
I my humble opinion I think Origi is about to start to boss games. The confidence he should have now, to go along with all his physical tools and talent, make me believe he will take a massive leap forward. Also Klopp clearly loves the lad. I won't be surprised if he starts scoring for fun.


6.) 07 Jun 2019 13:13:06
Very very difficult to find the right player Always red. If we kept the same squad with full back additions I do worry who replaces one of the 3. This year we had our bad patch and Origi wasn't trusted to replace Salah or Firmino who were clearly having a bad time.

We can't though just add an expensive player to sit on the bench and wait for an injury or loss of form. Maybe Fekir will still be an option. He can cover and they could all play together.


7.) 07 Jun 2019 13:16:34
A question to consider is will the front 3 improve if the players pushing them are Origi and another 20 to 30 mill player (which buys very little in this day) or will they improve with another player of equal calibre to them joins knowing they maintain form or they get a rest on the bench? There is also the fact that all 3 had poor spells during the season and really only sturridge was used in their place and he was very ineffectual. Now he is gone maybe Origi gets more minutes but will Klopp continue to play the front 3 hoping they regain form or will he use Origi.

If I'm honest I would think that had sturridge shown any signs of being a footballer during his starts and substitutions then he, not Origi, would have come on in final.
In my opinion I think competition needs to bought for the front 3, and let the 4 players fight for the 3 places, plenty of other competitions and injuries should see Origi and Brewster get games especially if we treat the domestic cups with a little more respect.


8.) 10 Jun 2019 05:56:05
Zeddicos you are missing the point though slightly with that pepe example. Of course we all want to best players, but the problem is we can't just say ok here's 70mil now we have pepe. A player like him won't agree to join us. Yes he might get game time but he also realistically mightnt. First game of season he would be on bench. Salah and mane start in good form. 10 games in and they still performing well. Pepe would be helpless. Mane and salah have been undroppable for 95% of the last 2 years, we can't expect that pepe would be obliged to minutes. Even origi as first choice back up this season only played like 800 mins or something.


 

 

30 Jul 2018 13:34:01
Are we interested in Pulsic. Would be a great addition to team. Do any of the eds know?

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{Ed002's Note - No, Liverpool are expecting Salah to stay.}


1.) 30 Jul 2018 13:59:59
I reckon this question gets asked at least 3 times a day.


2.) 30 Jul 2018 18:07:26
Only 3? 😲.


 

 

28 Jul 2017 10:51:27
I don't see what you guys are talking about. Hendo is captain and a starter Couts is a starter and Keita if he comes is a starter so unless one of them is injured then Can won't play. Its not about fighting for your place it's about facing reality. If he sat on the bench getting 100k pw never playing people would moan he is just here for the money. don't forget you can bet Klopp has said to players don't join City or Chelsea because your game time will be limited as the competition for places is fierce. Come to liverpool and play regularly. Fair play to Can it's his livelihood and he has a short playing window.

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1.) 28 Jul 2017 11:01:49
We will probably have 2 games a week for maybe 30 weeks, with CL, cup and the prem midweek games.


2.) 28 Jul 2017 11:15:46
In the circumstance of Keita and Countinho both being in our midfield next season, I don't think Henderson is guaranteed to start ahead of Can just because he is captain. If Can plays better than Henderson or anyone else for that matter, then most likely they will start.

It's up to Can to make himself indispensable if he stays.


3.) 28 Jul 2017 11:59:55
I think Can could be top quality in a few years time but don't think he really suits are style of play under Klopp. and he played last season through injury for the team and his goal at the end of the season helped secure champions league football for us . when Henderson is fit he will be in front of Can 9/ 10 so if we do get Keita. I hope we let him go to play every week. as he is still a young footballer that needs to play week in week out.


4.) 28 Jul 2017 14:10:55
Tbe Can situation will happen more and more in the future. When the club signed the likes of Can, Coutinio, Solanke Origi, etc. The club were actually signing potential, not the finished product. The club then put them in the team/ shop window, as they improve they would certainly attract attention.

This being said, if the clubs interests are covered and the team is not weakened by moving on the player, who is also requesting to move, then this has to be seen as good for the club, as it enables Klopp the funds to buy tbe exact player he wants. To suit his style of play.

Where it all goes tits up is by letting a players contract run into its final year, as with Can.

Can and Klopp have stated that the move is not about money.

If this is the case Can should do what Coutinuo has done, by signing a 5 year deal securing the clubs interests but having release clause in it if a certain team come looking.

I bet If Can done this 'The old Lady of Turin'wouldnt be still as keen as she is now.


 

 

 

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15 Jun 2019 10:41:58
Why would Salah leave. It was him and Firmino that was hassling Mane to sign a new contract. Why would he care about Mane if he was going anywere. Previously Salah and Klopp had fallen out and his agent had used this to get another payday but Klopp and Salah made up. All his world fame had come from playing for Liverpool and the success he has had with us so why would he take a chance of losing this.

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02 Jun 2018 20:29:27
Absolute madness to spend 80m on a keeper. Everybody goes on about Allison yet we stuck 7 past him. Oblak isn't leaving Madrid. If we do get Butland so be it. Klopp doesn't buy to many duds.

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{Ed0333's Note - I totally agree mate. Listen I’m no goalkeeping expert but Becker didn’t look anything like the beast the world keeps telling me about against us. I know he’s highly thought of on here by Ed’s and reds and he maybe be outrageously good but to spunk a world record fee on him would be in my opinion risky. Far better to have 2 decent keepers vying for number 1 and spending the money on Fekir, Dembele etc.


 

 

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26 Jun 2017 13:31:14
Once you bid stupid money for player you suddenly get a reputation as a club who can't walk away from a deal. There is a finite amount of money to be spent and wasting 80m on a player that is not vital to the team is mad far better using some of that to buy VVD.

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10 Aug 2016 22:14:38
Don't believe he ever intended to go to Turkey. He would be mad to go there with all the political unrest. No way can I see us selling him for 2.5m either.

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21 May 2016 11:55:03
Rodgers will only buy the fringe players at Liverpool as Celtic pay really poor wages. Most of our decent players are on at least 10k pw and that is close to Celtic 's maximum. Expect a lot of loan players to go to Celtic.

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