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03 Jun 2017 05:40:27
Hi Ed's,

Any update on Hendo's recovery? I think it's crucial we have him 100% fit for the start of the season. And Ings too if you don't mind.

All Red

{Ed001's Note - nothing to tell, it is the close season. Both are expected to be back for the preseason.}


1.) 03 Jun 2017 08:37:29
Fingers crossed that both can stay injury free next season. It'd be like 2 new signings.


2.) 03 Jun 2017 09:30:29
In my opinion it's very difficult to see ings having a Liverpool career now. As well as coming back from 2 seasons out, he'd have to force his way ahead of firmino, sturridge, origi and presumably solanke for our 1 striker position. I can see him going on loan when eventually fit.


3.) 03 Jun 2017 10:45:41
I think we play better with 2 up front. We have lots of footy on this season, potentially anyhow, so will need strikers - and there will be injuries/ fitness issues.

Inge was quality when he was on the pitch, I hope he gets a chance.

I also think Firmino is better in a 10 position. Inge sniffs out goals Firmino doesn't seem to.


4.) 03 Jun 2017 10:51:19
I can't see him having a problem forcing out sturridge and Origi if I'm honest. Klopp will give him his chance when fit and we can just hope that he takes it and strengthens the attacking options again.


5.) 03 Jun 2017 12:15:22
While I wish Ings all the best and hope he hits the ground running, I think most are underestimating the consequences of two consecutive anterior cruciate ligament injuries. Two years without any competitive football. I'm no doctor, but I know it's very difficult to recover from them, and most of the time players simply are not the same anymore. I hope he's able to contribute some key goals over the season, but I'd rather not have pressure piled on to him.


6.) 03 Jun 2017 12:41:43
I'd love us to go 2 up. I think ings and firmino could work well together but I can't see it happening with a new winger coming in because there would be no space for couts then.


 

 

 

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19 Mar 2018 14:52:18
Hi Reds,
With Martial apparently up for sale in the summer I would definitely consider buying the young lad.
He's quick, good finisher, wonderful technique and can definitely fit in any of our front three places.
Thoughts?

All Red

1.) 19 Mar 2018 15:11:57
we don't do business with man utd so that's that, another player who Maureen has no patience with, could you imagine how rashford, martial and shaw would have got on under klopp?


2.) 19 Mar 2018 15:14:32
Not for me. Average player with pace and a hard shot.

Also doesn't work anywhere near hard enough. He hung Luke Shaw out to dry the other night. Laziest forward I've seen in the prem since Balotelli.


3.) 19 Mar 2018 15:24:36
I understand the rivalry between us and United but at the end of the day I would put my emotions out of it and bag a huge talent like Martial who's basically being wasted and I would imagine he's already desperate to leave the club.
In my opinion the guy could easily do 15 league goals in a club which play to his strengths.


4.) 19 Mar 2018 15:25:27
I'm with you on that MK, he's not good enough for us and never will be, certainly not a player who has ever even come close to impressing me.

We have youngsters capable of more then him, youngsters more hungry to succeed, more passionate about the club then he would ever be, one to definitely leave alone.


5.) 19 Mar 2018 15:42:29
Not really about emotions. United simply won’t deal with us and there’s simply no chance of it happening. Martial is only 22 and I agree he has potential to be a very good player. But we should forget any chance of him realising that potential at Liverpool. Thankfully, he won’t realise that potential under Mourinho either.


6.) 19 Mar 2018 16:49:36
Man instead of buying Martial better play Woodburn, Wilson, Solanke, Brewster, etc. Too much talent.


7.) 19 Mar 2018 16:59:37
Martyial a good finisher? When did that ever happen cos I missed it, clearly. He's been at Utd for the 4th season now and has NOT improved one iota. Martial would not make our bench currently and he is NOTHING like Salah or Mane or even Ox out wide. He is lazy, poor on the ball, a one trick pony and frankly, not good enough. And again, why would we want a player Mou wants shot of? Sorry, we will not be buying Utd's dross anytime soon. Shoot, we don't even want their supposedly "good" players.

{Ed001's Note - do you not think he is a good finisher then? I think that is his big asset, he is very composed and a goalscorer. It is his touch and technique I think is the problem.}


8.) 19 Mar 2018 17:09:57
Are you planning to bench Mane for him then? Doubt he'll join us to be Mane's back up. Can't play across the forward positions either as he's ineffective on the right and isn't intelligent enough to play the Firmino role as back up. We have a far better player for the role already at the club in Mane and I'd rather give Woodburn and Wilson their chances before paying big bucks for Martial.


9.) 19 Mar 2018 17:12:09
why is this even being discussed? No Mancs allowed!


10.) 19 Mar 2018 17:55:18
We'd have to buy him from his next club as we don't trade players with his current club directly 😉.


11.) 19 Mar 2018 17:56:00
I will take Rashford though!


12.) 19 Mar 2018 17:57:02
I think he is a very good and talented footballer under the wrong manager but there is zip chance of him arriving at LFC.


13.) 19 Mar 2018 17:57:09
They should be begging us for our players, not us, them.

He ain't a bad player, of course not and he would no doubt improve under klopp but like Kenny said, we don't do business with them so it's all academic.

He could leave utd then join us from his next club but I doubt it very highly, by the time he has fulfilled another contract he will be what? 26. A little north of the usual age of our recruitment.


14.) 19 Mar 2018 18:00:56
BRover, Mourinho also didn't want Salah and De Bruyne, remind me again how that worked out? I think Martial is a terrific player who would thrive under Klopp, however he wouldn't get in our first 11 right now and would also impeded the progress of the likes of Woodburn, Brewster and Wilson.


15.) 19 Mar 2018 18:10:08
Takes me back to when rafa wanted Gabriel heinze. If I'm not mistaken old whisky nose went to a tribunal to block us from buying him. he was ***** anyway!


16.) 19 Mar 2018 20:26:12
I don’t think we’ll sign him but I’d say he’d be interested.


17.) 19 Mar 2018 21:02:22
Ed, I just don't think he is any better than the guys we have now who actually score more goals, have better touch and technique and are more versatile than Martial is. I just don't think he is any better than our boys, that's all.

Smeg, I disagree. I know Mou is poison to young players BUT that does not remove from the fact that Martial is not good enough to start for us as that is what he would be coming here to do where he to come, something you have agreed to in your post. We are making almost the same point.


18.) 19 Mar 2018 22:56:18
I never really liked martial that much, he has talent but I just never thought he was that good. If we are buying that sort of player I'd rather us target Zaha, that said i have the chat with my brother today. Wouldn't buy anyone for the front 3, they are too good together!


19.) 20 Mar 2018 07:14:45
He’ll succeed at ManU or leave the premier league IMO.


20.) 20 Mar 2018 13:03:56
Is he better than lemar then? I would have thought lemar or draxler is higher up the priority list than martial who united would never sell to us anyway. Pointless discussion.


 

 

28 Dec 2017 15:10:42
Question to Ed001 or Ed025,

Which goalkeeper would you have us sign to be our first choice?

Hard to find a decent keeper especially at the moment.

All Red

{Ed001's Note - are we talking realistic or fantasy? Realistic I would prefer to see us giving Ward or Karius the chance. Fantasy would be Donnarumma.}


1.) 28 Dec 2017 15:53:14
Ed, would Bernd Leno be a realisti option if Liverpool would decide to replace Migs/ Marius or both? Personally I think klopp should give Karius a chance to show what he is made of, so that Klopp can make an informed decision in the summer.

{Ed001's Note - I am not sure, the reason being that I know that Real Madrid checked him out a lot recently as an alternative option for their problem goalie position. If they are in for him, then he would not be a realistic option for us. However I don't know if the reports they received on him were favourable, so have no idea if they do want to sign him or not.}


2.) 28 Dec 2017 16:09:43
Thanks for the info ed.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}


3.) 28 Dec 2017 16:31:04
Do you rate Leno, ed001? I've yet to see him play but he's always talked of really highly but he never seems to be included in best goalie discussions.

Also, as a bit of an aside, how would you rank all the high profile German goalkeepers? Off the top of my head, there's Neuer, Leno, Ter Stegen, Trapp, Horn, Karius, Adler, Zieler and Ulreich.

{Ed001's Note - when I have seen him Leno was excellent, but it was only a couple of games. Neuer, Ter Stegen, then I would be struggling to decide who was where, though Trapp's recent performances would mean he would be nowhere near the list.}


4.) 28 Dec 2017 18:02:35
Real are close to signing Kepa from Bilbao.
Barca have Ter Stegen
Man Utd have DDG
Man City have Ederson
Chelsea have Courtois
Bayern have Neuer

That's most of the European heavyweights who have no need for Donnarumma. I could see PSG going for him or Oblak. If we show interest, there is an outside chance that we could get him, with the only downside being having to deal with his leach of an agent once again.

{Ed001's Note - PSG tried to bring him in the summer. They will still have interest, but I don't see them as an impossible task to convince a player to join us rather than them. If a player is joining them instead, then we are better off without them. After all Neymar is already wanting out!}


5.) 28 Dec 2017 18:09:58
Cheers for the reply ed.

I agree Neuer and Ter Stegen are the best two out of that list, Leno and Horn are ones I've never seen play but are very highly rated. Karius, I still have faith in, he's young for a goalie and I hope Klopp gives him an actual chance. Trapp, Adler, Zieler and Ulreich, although were all highly rated at one point, are average for me. They all seem to have concentration issues or lack any confidence and command. Trapp's still young-ish for a goalie though, maybe a move away from PSG will reignite his career.

{Ed001's Note - I really can't, off the top of my head, remember what Horn is like to be honest. Trapp folded under the pressure there, I doubt he would be right for us to be honest, but who knows.}


6.) 28 Dec 2017 20:12:25
I can tell you Horn's a miracle worker on Football Manager, he helped me win the league at Newcastle with Steven Taylor and Mike Williamson playing in front of him!


7.) 28 Dec 2017 21:46:13
Horn was Karius' deputy in the German Olympic team last year BUT Karius declined to play the tournament cos he wanted to focus on preseason with LFC. Horn took his spot. If that means Karius is better than Horn then so be it.


8.) 28 Dec 2017 21:54:49
I just had a thought, if neymar is so unhappy, when we get the couts money from Barcelona we should send klopp to a paris cafe to have a word with him. obviously after we have asked psg for permission. 😁.


 

 

30 Sep 2017 07:48:00
Hi Ed002,

I thought you said Kloop would leave once the Bayern job was available?

All Red

{Ed002's Note - No, I said that it was due to become available in 2019 and then he would be an option.}


 

 

06 Sep 2017 17:28:59
Thank God no one came back injured.

All Red

1.) 06 Sep 2017 17:56:39
Coutinho has an ingrowing hair could be out till January 😂😂😂.


2.) 06 Sep 2017 18:50:51
It's getting boring now.


3.) 07 Sep 2017 02:07:38
He, d have more than one if I could get near him,
#leather injection cure all.


 

 

06 Sep 2017 07:29:50
Hi Ed 001,

Quick one, with the current squad we have what do you think would be the best strategy to breakdown defenses who seat deep and park the proverbial bus?

All Red

{Ed001's Note - move the ball quickly and quick player movement. That has been what we have lacked when playing them. The team just loses the intensity it shows against the big clubs, as they are the Burnleys of the league and the team just is not as motivated sadly. It does not matter how well set up you are, if the ball is moved quickly you can't stop it. Quick one-twos will always cause problems. A player moving at pace into the box will always have an advantage over the defence, which is static. Movement is always going to be a problem for a defence.}


1.) 06 Sep 2017 07:55:58
Spot on ed01.


2.) 06 Sep 2017 08:00:22
I agree with Ed on the intensity, I think a lot is in the players heads. Do we have any mind coaches? the lack of fight against the smaller clubs is so apparent, I do agree our style doesn't suit teams sitting back but I'm sure with a better mental attitude we could improve these results.


3.) 06 Sep 2017 08:08:18
Ed do you think that is why Klopp wanted Chamberlain and Keita? They are both the types of midfielder who play little give and go's to burst beyond tightly banked up players. Keita is especially good at it.

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, and that both can break a packed defence with a dribble at pace as well. We have Lallana, Can and Coutinho who can do that currently but none have a real burst of pace as well. That pace causes major problems for a defence as it does not give them time to readjust their positioning.}


4.) 06 Sep 2017 08:11:02
Tte team believes the danger coming from the opposition is less compared to the City's and Chelsea's. So they relax and take their time. You could also give some credit to the opposition players for keeping it tight and focus through out the 90mts against any minute errors which might lead to a goal. These teams simply cannot outscore us hence they try to snatch a draw and a point.

It is not the teams every time. We have struggled against Jose's team over the years who are not burnley's and would struggle against Simeoni's team who again are not burnley's.

{Ed001's Note - not sure of the relevance of Simeone or Jose, everyone struggles against their teams.}


5.) 06 Sep 2017 08:31:00
Yes, because the way they set up their team against PACE! If you give SPACE to PACE then there is only winner.

{Ed001's Note - not just because of the way they set up, there is a lot more to it than that. It helps that Mourinho has had more money to spend on his teams than any other team in history.}


6.) 06 Sep 2017 08:53:50
Correct that's why there is no Lesser team and Higher wan concept in tactics. Some teams are forced to sit back and defend due lack of quality in their team ( Burnleys etc ) some managers like to sit back and snatch as many points as possible without giving a damn on the footy as a whole ( Jose, Rafa, Simeoni ) .

We struggle against teams who sit back. It doesn't matter where it comes from. Burnleys or UTD's.


7.) 06 Sep 2017 09:21:48
I mentioned this the other day when discussing the signing of Chamberline. If Klopp can get his end product right, I think his direct approach could be key against the teams that come to park the bus.

It l's so frustrating watching the ball being moved from side to side and as Ed 1 mentioned, we seem to lose all moment against these teams that set up to defend deep.


8.) 06 Sep 2017 09:23:07
I also think that our full backs have a role to play in breaking down defences. Last season these teams were quite happy for Milner and Clyne to have the ball in advanced areas knowing they won't hurt them. If they are worried about the full backs they have to get players out to them which in turn creates space in the middle. Let's hope this seasons extra quality from the full backs coupled with the quick movement from the front men and midfielders will see us improve.


9.) 06 Sep 2017 09:37:51
Ings n things I think that's the difference right there with TAA, Robertson in the team you have two players who have a great cross on both of them which should help the team last year we would get forward down the wings and then just turn around or milly would turn back and put one in on his right foot nothing wrong with that on occasions but a ball in a pace on the left wing on your left foot is better then stopping and letting the defenders reset and cover.


10.) 06 Sep 2017 10:42:32
Can we focus on the topic at hand instead of talking about other managers that no one else cares about? Spot on, Ed. You will be surprised what a simple one-two ball or using a left footed LB who can cross the ball first time, can do to a defence. Klopp addressed this issue in the TW by bringing in Robbo at LB and Salah to partner with Mane out wide with Ox as an alternative, in order to facilitate better and quicker movement, to help break down the defence.

In the Palace game, we improved on the quick movement front as soon as Salah and Solanke came on cos that spread out their defence hence, more spaces for our players to run into. I also like that our heads did not drop throughout the game as we kept plugging away and increased the pressure on them. It is said pressure that caused the mistake that led to Mane's goal for the win. we need to keep doing that vs the lesser teams at Anfield and NEVER let our heads drop even when we concede the first goal.


11.) 06 Sep 2017 14:03:03
Full backs was and always going to be the problem.

Doesn't matter of fast you play if all the players are within 5 yards or each other. It just allows the opp to stay tight and defend.

Of however you now have 2 full backs hugging the touchline and bombing in behind, it causes the edge of the opp to have to make a decision, stick or twist. If they go out to the full back then space is now created in the middle, the rest of the opp have to shift to cover and then they lose there dicisipline.

This is why Barcelona rarely ever get dropped by other teams, pace full backs.

Gotta wonder why city spent 126 mil on e of them haven't you.


 

 

 

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13 Dec 2017 15:00:08
Agreed Ed001, the scouting network at our club is absolutely shocking since I can remember. Some of the signings we've made in the past 20 years are just criminal.
Who knows a little bit of diligence in our scouts over the years and we would have a couple of titles.

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13 Nov 2017 06:26:17
Indian Buzzer. Grujic does not play deep hence cannot be cover to Hendo.

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19 Mar 2018 15:24:36
I understand the rivalry between us and United but at the end of the day I would put my emotions out of it and bag a huge talent like Martial who's basically being wasted and I would imagine he's already desperate to leave the club.
In my opinion the guy could easily do 15 league goals in a club which play to his strengths.

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28 Feb 2018 12:02:59
De Gea
TAA Lovren Virgil Robbo
Can Hendo OX
Salah Firmino Mane.

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26 Feb 2018 08:01:53
Well I do rate him and I think it would be really hard to get a good or top striker to seat on the bench as a plan B. Gabiaddini would do it for me.

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26 Feb 2018 07:21:52
I wouldn't mind Gabiaddini to be honest. He'd make a great back up striker and is lethal in the D as a goal poacher. Great plan B.

All Red

{Ed001's Note - seriously? He is average, no movement and is far from lethal, which is why he has been struggling for goals since he had one purple patch after first joining.}


 

 

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08 Dec 2017 06:11:21
Keita is Not a CDM.

All Red