Liverpool Rumours Archive June 09 2017

 

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09 Jun 2017 19:16:50
What is the situation with Leiva, he was on the clubs retained list? Has he signed a new contract to be sold or is the club looking to keep him for next year's​ squad? Thanks Eds.

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{Ed001's Note - offered one and is thinking it over.}

09 Jun 2017 19:59:30
Hope he stays personally - good professional with lots of experience and the nearest we've got to a scouser in the first team (youngsters aside)

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09 Jun 2017 21:47:43
I think he deserves regular playing time and for that I think he has to leave. Model professional and LFC's current longest serving player.

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09 Jun 2017 23:37:51
Abs embarrassing if Lucas stays, wasn't has never been good enough and the fact bang average players like him are accepted is the reason we've one trophy in 10 years, have we learned nothing,

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10 Jun 2017 00:44:38
Port Red you are an idiot if you think Lucas shouldn't be kept on for another year. he is a model pro and never let's us down. much rather him as back up than klavan at centre half or stewart in the middle.

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10 Jun 2017 00:46:17
Shame on you talking of lucus that way. Faithful to lfc and puts 110% into every performance. Not the most creative player but does what he does well. This type of player is vital. Look at players player of year. I hope he stays, we will need experience in ucl and may need player of his ilk in the latter stages if we get that far.

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10 Jun 2017 01:09:28
Great pro, good role model, love his commitment, but we need better if we're going to get where we want to be. We were one of the best teams in the world when we had Xabi, Masch and Gerrard in the middle and sorry but there's a reason those three kept Lucas out the side.

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09 Jun 2017 21:03:43
Thanks Ed, do you know if it is a one year or multiple. Does this eliminate any other CM coming to us in the summer since our midfield is overly crowded as is.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't and no.}

10 Jun 2017 02:52:46
Fact is westwood you don't get a player of XMG's calibre to sit on your bench, so to have a model professional like Lucas on your books covers ANY of those positions WHEN one of them gets injured. Wise up. Football is a squad game.

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10 Jun 2017 02:52:58
Ww666. Xabi mash and Gerrard make 3 lucus has had some very good seasons I think 08/ 09 09/ 10 10/ 11 especially you talk like he's the reason we've struggled last ten years (although we really should have two prem titles a champions league and europa league to add to league cup. ) But he really hasn't started much in recent years. Good person to have around the club, utility man. Experience. I'm happy whatever he chooses. He earned it.

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10 Jun 2017 03:25:58
Agree with Port.
No doubt the guy has been loyal and gives 100%, but the fact is he isn't good enough to contribute to a team that wants to challenge for trophies. If he wants first team he should definitely seek a new team as he should only ever be a back up for us.

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10 Jun 2017 04:58:36
Lucas is a brilliant servant of this club, has always been a model professional and deserves all of our utmost respect. I do somewhat agree he's not first choice anymore, and nor should he be, however he does have specific uses in certain situations (defensive sub to close out a game) and he's a valuable backup should we have an injury crisis, while at the same time also being a senior pro who could be extremely valuable in terms of sheparding some of the younger team members when playing some of the cup games in mid January. He's also a support for some of the brazilian players and a great ambassador for how to behave.

I'm perfectly fine if he were to sign for another year if this is how Klopp sees his role, or to see him move to Gremio for first team football if that's what he wants. I won't necessarily be happy to see him starting every game as I think we should be aiming for the future, but let's not overlook the value he can bring to the squad and what he's done for this club.

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10 Jun 2017 09:33:37
When Lucas first arrived he was an Attacking Midfielder. We played him more defensively and for a while he struggled but cracked on.
Now, years on he is established and competent from CB right up the spine of the team. He plays that extremely disciplined role in front of our back four really well. He is likely only behind Henderson and Milner for effort.
All these naysayers seem forget that in our big games it is Lucas who is asked to mark danger men out of the game, I remember watching him stop David Silva playing for virtually an entire match.
He has never moaned about being moved around, never spoken ill of the club, he is a great professional to have around the youngsters and can cover so many central positions. He is an ideal Premiership squad player.
All these saying we need better, I don't see many of the other clubs around us with a better option to cover those positions off the bench. Chelsea have Matic and Kante but none of the others have such a devoted and enthusiastic back up.
I think he's awesome and deserves more respect than he's given.

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10 Jun 2017 09:37:08
I agree with Port on this although maybe wouldn't put it so harshly. There's no doubting his professionalism and I'm sure he's a great guy to have in and around the squad. My fear is if he stays there is a temptation to play him and he is simply not good enough and never has been.

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10 Jun 2017 10:35:51
I'm not questioning his commitment or effort, he's been a great servant yes, but is not and never was good enough, unfortunately we've been used to average players over the last 10 years and he's stood out among them, he's only 30 so why aren't top teams looking for him? Keeping him just postpones us building a proper squad to challenge with players in their proper positions, but as we've seen this week we're an utter shambles and this will probably happen, and we'll be back here talking the same crap next summer.

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10 Jun 2017 11:04:01
He's a good lad Lucas a lot forget where his proper place was on a pitch he was never a dm and Rafa made him play there! His heart is red he loves Liverpool! Let him go in peace he's loyal and deserves it!

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10 Jun 2017 13:52:44
Makes you wonder if he had scored that goal early on, the one Neville saved illegally, would things have turned our different! He deserves support for being the perfect professional at the club, but think it's time for him to move on for his own sake!

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10 Jun 2017 15:12:00
Well said an field Andy. The job lucus does is not always easy to see, marking players out of games doesn't always make it on match of the day.

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13 Jun 2017 22:57:11
Stoneage. Telling someone to wise up when giving an opinion isn't the way to get people to listen. I see the facts for what they are. He wants to play regularly, which he likely won't at our club as we (hopefully) progress. Even if we weren't progressing he isn't getting many games. And with respect to the fella he's hardly a game changer is he? Offers little consistently going forward and makes silly fouls in defence offering a opportunity for teams to exploit our biggest weakness-defending set pieces. In the end it isn't really even about Lucas. It's about progressing. We should always be looking to bring through or buy players better than what we have, and again in case your not getting it HEA A GREAT PRO but there's plenty better out there that we could sign.

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09 Jun 2017 15:20:36
Question for ed 002 if about. Is there any interest in clyne? As I'm. lead to believe klopp favours mulberry right side.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any efforts being made to sell Clyne.}

09 Jun 2017 16:52:52
Have a feeling Klopp has turned his attention towards getting in a CB (whether its VVD or someone else) while giving Clyne another season and TAA to step up before reviewing the RB situation next year. Totally up for TAA being first choice RB for next season.

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09 Jun 2017 17:50:41
Rotation at RB between Clyne and TAA will get the best out of them both next season.

Plenty more positions need strengthening before RB for me.

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09 Jun 2017 19:15:18
Oh yay, another season of Clyne having no positive outcome on the pitch.

That is one way of improving our squad :-O.

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09 Jun 2017 19:53:34
Milly right side sorry.

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09 Jun 2017 19:12:23
A question to the Eds, are you aware of any changes to the Sharkpod list of targets with what has happened over the last week. If not can everyone stop throwing random names at the Eds before they get really fed-up.
Thank you and goodnight Eds.

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{Ed002's Note - A good question - add Benjamin Mendy (versatile but so expensive he may well have been priced out of a move) and remove Kessie, Maxime Lopez, Dembele and Azmoun.}

10 Jun 2017 01:11:47
I think Clyne is getting a raw deal on here. To say he has had zero positive impact on games is inaccurate. He's England first choice RB for a reason. If he could improve his crossing and general end product he has huge potential. Defencively he's fine. I agree that between him a taa we really have other priorities. In fact almost every other position on the park. Lb cb cm w st. Even gk.

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10 Jun 2017 07:20:34
He's not first choice RB for England. Kyle Walker is miles ahead of him!
Fact is, Clyne has really poor end product, he has no idea what to do with the ball so he normally passes back or sideways. Defensively he's ok but he can have some positional issues. But yeah, other areas need attention first. I reckon Klopp will really try to step up TAA's development as Klopp loves his fullbacks to get involved in the attack.

In saying that, I think Pereira at RB and Mane in front of him would be absolutely lethal!

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10 Jun 2017 08:57:35
As Greg said, he is NOT 1st choice for England. He'll be lucky to even be 2nd choice. Walker and Trippier both produce more in the final 3rd. And everyone needs to remember, it's one signing at a time. Seems like CB and winger are 1st priorities and I'd agree with that. Then fullbacks, then midfielder, and then maybe a striker or maybe not if Solanke looks good enough in pre-season I'd say. Please bear in mind, the window doesn't close until Thursday, August 31 at 23:00.

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10 Jun 2017 10:53:39
Sorry but Clyne is not ok defensively. He has a constant habit of switching off and letting players in. Several goals this season came from it. Milner who isn't an outright defender looks more switched on and capable of blocking and disrupting crosses.

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10 Jun 2017 15:20:37
Ok. Ok. I think Clyne will come good. He does the basics well, better end product and he'll be one of best in league. Good pro and I'll be surprised if we bring in a RB. A lot of people expect us to play 343 next year so will he even get a game?

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10 Jun 2017 15:59:19
How is CB and Winger a priority over LB position? We don't have a LB as Milner isn't one although doing a good job and Moreno is just awful. We have four cbs plus a couple who could cover and in a front three we have players either side of the striker, so how a LB is the first position to be signed and top level at that.

It's like spending time looking for 3rd choice older keeper now Manniger has gone. why?

Just get Mendy, be done for a change.

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11 Jun 2017 00:00:11
Clyne is never a lfc player he's Shite.

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09 Jun 2017 13:44:50
Ed01/ 02 I have been told we have been in talks with Shay Given have you heard anything your side?

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{Ed002's Note - No I haven't.}

09 Jun 2017 19:57:11
Makes sense - need 3rd keeper which he'd be more than happy with I'm sure.

Let Ward have a season in the PL with Huddersfield, giving him plenty of game time and relevant experience.

Migs hasn't been the greatest but recent form is good, likely as a result of Karius pushing him.

Given to be a player/ coach with any luck.!

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10 Jun 2017 10:56:10
Given could still be playing regularly at lower levels so would be surprised if he wanted to be the break glass option and pretty much call an end to playing career.

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11 Jun 2017 08:02:52
needs a strong decision on GK roll this season and not flip-flopping between migs and karius.

Done us no favours last season. If karius is going to be number 1 then we need to offload migs.

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09 Jun 2017 14:41:56
VVD still on, never gone away . Salah completed after international.

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09 Jun 2017 14:53:33
And this is based on you:

a) being in the know?
b) having a gut feeling?
c) taking it from Labour's wish list?

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09 Jun 2017 15:34:46
As much as I would like to believe you, I just don't think we will get both deals over the line. This is LFC we are talking about, and there is a big screw up that's waiting to happen (yet again) .

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09 Jun 2017 15:55:27
Albarnet was spot on last week and I believe him now. This is just Southampton angling for more money. Or a more cash upfront deal with city. Salah, vvd and Robertson. Maybe luan is sturridge leaves.

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09 Jun 2017 15:57:16
Salah agent posted this on Twitter

Sometimes, good things come to those who don't wait too long.

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09 Jun 2017 16:13:16
Meaning come on lfc just up the bid pay what's needed for a change.

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09 Jun 2017 17:27:34
Deja vue with salah.

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09 Jun 2017 18:26:37
Is his agent's comment definitely about Salah? Surely he has plenty of clients.

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09 Jun 2017 19:23:56
Are we sure his agent is authorised to be talking to us? Has he even done the Twitter accreditation?

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09 Jun 2017 22:41:41
Apparently Roma need to balance their books by the end of this month to satisfy FFP. We are waiting until then so that they have no choice but to sell him to us for 28M, way less than what they want. IF that is indeed true, coupling that with the alleged 'tapping up', that's really underhanded by Liverpool.

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10 Jun 2017 09:37:43
Pessimist, that is called business. If any business in the world is in a position where they have to sell for whatever reason then it puts the buyer in the position of strength. Nothing underhand about that.

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10 Jun 2017 15:36:43
If the reports are correct in Italy, Roma only wants £7M more from Liverpool, which i don't think is that extortionate. If Roma then pushes the boundaries and say 'I want £15M more from you', then we can walk away for them messing us about. I'm my opinion I just don't think the extra £7M is worth waiting 2 weeks and (maybe) tapping the player up over. Just give Roma an acceptable bid to negotiate with, or walk away!

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11 Jun 2017 08:06:32
Pessimist if that's true then that's clever business not underhanded!

If it was your money what would you do?

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09 Jun 2017 13:47:06
The owners are in for a tough time in the next few months, trust me!

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09 Jun 2017 13:56:55
Why? Happy to trust you if you shed some light as to how you know this.

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09 Jun 2017 14:17:03
Why shld we trust you? Or are you personally going to give them a hard time?

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09 Jun 2017 14:21:12
And so they should seein they are ultimately responsible if staff are draggin the clubs name through the mud.

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09 Jun 2017 14:22:13
The thing is they would have to pick between how serious they are in running the football club in buying the best players for serious money or sticking to their pathetic money ball ideology with the risk of we lacking behind in winning trophies for the club.

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09 Jun 2017 14:29:08
Spirit of Shankly are planning again TIA19.

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09 Jun 2017 14:53:36
Oh my god. Lallana the reason no ed commented is because they have probably shot themselves.

Moneyball ideology? Jesus christ. We are one of the biggest spenders is world football. We didn't pull out of vvd for money reasons, but becsuse we approached the deal ass backwards. Same as salah, that's pending an investigation.

There was no worries from the owbers when spending 100 mil for the king, 200 mil for brendan or 80 mil for klopp.

Firmino, lallana, lovren, mane, wij where bought for about 140 mil.

Get a grip and stop watching stupid films and then spending your time basig your ideaology on them.

The money ball system was never about savung money because there cheap bastards but with abit more care and detail you can build a better team thay just spending millions.

Even chelsea are at that juncture.

Wheras city have yet to learn.

Tottenham have learned it.

United havent.

Leicster learned it.

We havent.

You can always spend money but for example its not always the big shiny names but the ones that will fit your team better.

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{Ed001's Note - Moneyball is a lie anyway, it never existed and if people took the time to read up they would know it is nonsense.}

09 Jun 2017 15:45:19
What's the plan waro? You and the other goons planning a protest? Meet in the pub and brain storm how you can infiltrate the club and run it yourself?! God. it's tiresome. Zzzz.

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09 Jun 2017 19:15:58
It will harm the club.

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09 Jun 2017 20:13:08
You know effective scouting can find players that are much cheaper and not found yet, I think we got some Brazilian lad like that. what's his name again?
Or we can go the Labour route and spend spend spend and let the club go bankrupt! Sorry for that Labour voters.
FSG have spent big, they have invested - the sums for players are huge now and getting bigger.

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09 Jun 2017 20:39:12
Waro you can't just up and spend 800m on players, you have to balance the books, unless you want us to go into administration. You and the other members of the SOS have to realise that FSG are doing a good job, they are putting in their own money and you should know that given your access to Ed002's wealth of knowledge. Please get out of La la land and realise that if you charge into FSG's office with swords and take over the club, the glory days won't suddenly return, football has changed and we are on the backfoot commercially. We have a talented squad and success should return under the helm of Judgen Klopp, you SOS lot will do nothing but make that process more difficult. I don't suppose any of you have 100m hidden in the back of your couch? If not, stop causing unnecessary conflict and support your club.

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09 Jun 2017 23:50:53
I have a great deal of time for Waro but believe he will only be happy when the club is owned by fans living in liverpool and nobody outside of that are allowed to have tickets ( he seems to forget that most of them will tout the tickets out, which is evident on match days) it's about time all the groups opposed to FSG just stopped moaning and actually supported the club, their agenda is miss guided in my opinion.

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10 Jun 2017 15:30:31
Excellent post SuperMane. That's an eye opener for all who are miles away from reality. The club should not and would not be held ransom. Salah not in million years is worth what Roma is asking for ( reported €40 mill ) would Chelsea even touch him for that price?
Falling for Waro would make you completely hatter towards FSG.

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09 Jun 2017 13:45:42
Rumours of us interested in De Vrij is pretty cool, he's a classy player and in the last year of his contract could show value for money!

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09 Jun 2017 13:53:08
He isn't that good, has injury issues and is slow, so fits in well in the Italian league.

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09 Jun 2017 14:08:03
think De Vrij missed a lot of last season with a serious knee injury .

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09 Jun 2017 22:15:26
His injury record through his entire career is poor.

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09 Jun 2017 11:17:24
VVD handed in transfer request!

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09 Jun 2017 12:45:22
Really, city will be happy. Open up a can of worms if we.

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09 Jun 2017 12:46:07
Whats the source my friend?

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09 Jun 2017 12:46:45
Can the eds confirm this?

Cheers,

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09 Jun 2017 12:49:16
Not seen this anywhere?

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09 Jun 2017 12:49:17
According to who?

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09 Jun 2017 12:55:43
Could we actually sign him without ramifications?

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09 Jun 2017 13:08:40
Not true. although I suspect it will go that way at some stage.

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09 Jun 2017 13:49:37
What is Natural Poolie smoking?

I think we've got more chance of signing Dick Van Dyke!

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09 Jun 2017 14:11:42
there will be a right old song and dance if we go with DVD .

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09 Jun 2017 14:26:05
Very true redforever.

But "lets go fly a kite" if it does come off. or we could be like Natural Poolie, and get as high as one!

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09 Jun 2017 14:38:42
Is it true ed001?about transfer request.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't believe so, yet. Yet being the key as he is unhappy so it is very probable it will happen at some point.}

09 Jun 2017 15:26:51
I don't u derstand why the players wait, seriously though not like they are short on money is it? That being said 5% of 50-70mil is pritty sizeable sum. Answered my own moan here.

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09 Jun 2017 15:30:06
Even if he did hand in a transfer request, Liverpool will steer well clear as they will not spend that sort of money. Although I wish they would do the right thing by all, and pay the money to get him.

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09 Jun 2017 16:34:27
There's a lot of alternatives out there though, VVD is a brilliant player and I'd love him here, but is the juice worth the squeeze.

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09 Jun 2017 20:20:32
We have been linked (maybe just because he is German! ) in the past to Jonathan Tah, highly rated and 21 y/ o and possibly cheaper option. Don't know his contract status or interest, but would be a good alternative if CB is needed.

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10 Jun 2017 15:26:46
Thing is Decimus can you name a centre half who is physically imposing, good in the air, mobile, quick, good with the ball at his feet, a good defender, excellent passer of the ball and reads the game relatively well, because I'm struggling to think of one.

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09 Jun 2017 06:04:22
G'day eds?

Are we having any interest in Chicarito? Be nice buy if Studge isn't staying?

A LB i'd go with Theo from Atletico as i've watched a few games this year and he has maturity beyond his years and looked more than comfortable at Alaves in the back 4.

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{Ed001's Note - no.}

09 Jun 2017 08:20:02
Theo is off to Real Madrid and Javier Hernandez is a goal hanger who wouldn't fit into Klopp's tactics.

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09 Jun 2017 05:15:42
Morning :), Eds is there any truth to the emre mor rumours in the press?

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{Ed001's Note - I have no idea what you are referring to. Sorry. If you are asking have we revived interest in him, then no, I don't believe we have.}

09 Jun 2017 10:34:40
I believe the rumour he is on about is apparently 'we have been offered the player', sounds like BS to me as i thought he was part of Dortmunds future plans.

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09 Jun 2017 14:25:18
Sorry Ed, Alex is right though, I read emre mor was being offered on loan.

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{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, you have to explain for me, I don't read the media on purpose or you end up confused by the lies and nonsense they spout.}

09 Jun 2017 00:14:57
Evening all, Eds just wondering do Liverpool have any interest in either inaki williams or Quincy promes?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes there is interest in Iñaki Williams - Athletic Bilbao are aware of interest in Iñaki Williams following an approach by Galatasaray and scouts from Manchester City, Juventus, Valencia, Liverpool, Dortmund, Arsenal and Everton attending matches to watch him this season. They have made it clear that they do not wish to sell and have extended his contract - but they expect a bids from Dortmund, Juventus and (only if they cannot obtain another target) Manchester City in the summer - Liverpool may also look to an offer if Klopp plans to use him as a striker - but he is similar to and plays in a similar position to Mane so it may not be sensible.

09 Jun 2017 01:24:48
But with Salah and Martins being linked, who both normally play RW, Iñaki Williams would seem like a great option.

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{Ed002's Note - The great option would be Julian Brandt.}

09 Jun 2017 04:33:47
Ed002 - I know that Julian Brandt was rumored to be looking for a move away from Leverkusen given inability to qualify for Europe. Liverpool seem to be looking at other options for now, but do you know if there are other teams interested in Brandt at this stage? Not seen a lot of press on him of late.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool were very keen and he was the first choice. The issue was that I guess he looked at the squad and thought how does he fit in. Hence the question - will I be starting? The massive advantage of Brandt is that he is a proper left winger with the ability to play across the forward line. The others are generally right winger with the ability to play across the forward line. He was the number one pick and he would bring more to Liverpool than the others being looked at. Both North London sides have shown an interest in him but right now neither is making any real effort. Bayern may look to him again as a Costa replacement.}

09 Jun 2017 07:57:12
Liverpool's transfer policy is currently looking about as strong and stable as Theresa May at breakfast this morning 😂 He's our 1st pick, just sign him if he is willing to take the chance on being in the team. Just get permission to talk to him first please. If he's not, go and pay the transfers fee for our 2nd pick but we need to start acting in a more professional manner. Eds2, I know you wouldn't want the pay cut but can't you apply next time we need a top level job at the club,
Thanks 😂.

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{Ed002's Note - Sadly I can't deal with the drop in money. I havce a wife who may well be ideal for the role.}

09 Jun 2017 08:24:53
but he sot willing to take that chance of warming the bench so how can we 'just sign him'?

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09 Jun 2017 08:25:02
*but he's not.

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09 Jun 2017 09:30:49
Lfc hopeful, I'm not sure we actually have a transfer policy other than to act like complete see you next Tuesdays and make a laughing stock out of ourselves. I am yet to be convinced that we will do any decent business this window because we have made such a balls up of the players that would take us to the next level.

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09 Jun 2017 09:48:46
Agreed FMS.
I posted (or not because it didn't make it on to this board) something similar. I made the point that why would a 'professional' footballer want to play for such an unprofessional club? Much damage needs to be repaired and (I hope I am wrong! ) I can see this Summer's transfer window being a let down and the season to come being one to forget. It would be great to get the defence sorted with some real top draw players to stop the needless loss of points. That alone will ensure we mount a decent challenge next season, but until we plug the leaks, it won't matter how many zillions we spend on attacking midfielders. Clean our act up as a club / lead by example, and the players will come.

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09 Jun 2017 09:59:33
So let me get this straight, Brandt doesn't believe he would get into Liverpools starting line up, but if Costa leaves Bayern he would be happy to go play there. aren't Bayern just a little bit better than us.

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09 Jun 2017 11:01:05
I think it will blow over.

Soton have spat their dummy out, we said sorry. If Soton are satisfied they haven't lost face in front of players, fans, and future signings then I suspect VVD could still go through, and maybe not at the inflated price.

All they risk doing is pissing off a player that wants a move, which from their perspective means they've now done it to two players. How would that be viewed by players thinking of moving to Soton?

As has been suggested, lots of players use Soton as a stepping stone, who would want to risk having their career bollocksed when it came time to move on? VVD decided to move when Fonte was being dicked around. What has all this done to the current squad?

Maybe Soton will hunker down and dig their heals in as they try to build a squad but it seems nonsensical to me. Look, I've no insight into these things, just applying layman's logic, I am maybe being completely naive.

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09 Jun 2017 11:46:17
dec, Bayern have Ribery and robben as first choice wingers. both are in their 30's and id be surprised if either was still there in 12 months - he will get opps in their system.

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