Liverpool Rumours Archive October 07 2010

 

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07 Oct 2010 23:46:32
BLUE TO RED PIENAAR

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07 Oct 2010 23:36:24
Why would you want klinsmann? every one knows his english dream job is spurs! and if arry got done and they came calling off he would go! he still to this day refers to spurs as us and we! think liverpool needs a liverpool man?

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07 Oct 2010 23:31:27
Heard a rumour Roy Hodgson wants to offload Lucas in order to free up space in the squad to make a move for Real Madrid's Lassana Diarra.

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07 Oct 2010 23:17:08
LACE SUSPENDERS here (thanks for the inspiration, EARLY SPENCER). .

Here's how it's likely to shake down, dudes (hey, we're staying American come what may)

Hicks always goes to court, that's his modus operandi. The case will be determined by the court's interpretation of the LFC constitution and other corporate documents including any written agreements such as the one Broughton has referred to.

If Hicks loses, he goes to the Court of Appeal. If he loses that, he's lost as I don't think he would have recourse in the EU courts.

If Hicks wins at any stage, he will then need to pull together refinancing to buy out the RBS loan, if, indeed, the loan agreement allows this. If he can't, RBS will then have to decide whether to call in the loan. Broughton has strongly hinted that RBS has been supportive of the sale process and will sanction the sale to NESV. If this is true, they will go ahead with the sale.

Hicks gets to maintain control in one of four scenarios, and that has question marks. Good

However, he may be using LFC money to pay for the court case (not sure whether he can but as owner, it's possible) and any cost of defense against him could also be to the financial detriment of the club.

Final proof that Tom Hicks does not give a damn about LFC.

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07 Oct 2010 23:11:16
Does this news mean we can finally land Ken Aguero?

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07 Oct 2010 23:08:14
Was talking to afraid of mine I play football with he works in a solicitors, they mostly handle personal injury claims, but his well up on most legal issues.His a massive Liverpool fan also and he and his boss got talking about the court case for the club, according to him Hicks will dispute that the contract signed to allow Broughton to change the board is open to interpretation, if he does then he would be able to change the board and bloke the takeover.The key clause is paragraph 81a of the 30-page document.But Broughton is around to long and to experienced and wouldn't off took the job unless everything is air tight.Theres 3 sceniaros that could come out of court

1:Liverpool fc win and take over gets complete(there also could be an appeal)
2:Hicks wins changes the board, refinances using the club and its assists and holds on to the club for a better offer.
3:The judge could ask for a settlement fee for hicks, allowing the club to be takenover and hicks paid a settlement fiqure.This will only happen if the judge feels Liverpool's board hadnt exhausted all avenues of getting a higher price for the club

Red Ted

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07 Oct 2010 22:51:19
My post from August 22nd 2010

"Early Spencer will post this message on 7th October claiming: "LFC will be sold mid October to blah, blah, blah"". In actual fact, he wrote that LFC would be bought by Sheik Gonbustia, would buy Christina Ronal"doh" and would manage to win the Carling Cup due to RH's strong cup record.

I predict that any of his future posts will get a 100% "unbelievable" score

"Now you will take my posts seriously". No,
now we will take his posts with an EU mountain of salt

"Aguero to sign Jan"
Aguero to sign Jackanory

THE DAYS OF LACE SUSPENDERS

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07 Oct 2010 22:33:27
Johnson when signing for Liverpool said he never considered resigning 4 Chelsea for the way he was treated especially by Mourihno he nearly ruined his career and confidence.

Still think Hicks has something up his sleeve. Can't wait until this is over.

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07 Oct 2010 22:00:24
"LFC will be sold mid October to (and you may not like this) Americans. A major sporting investment company are working on a deal to sell the club with the current owners losing over £50m each! Expect a court battle to ensue. I also fear by October we could be in the very lowest league position and fear our Carling cup campaign will end early. I predict UTD will win at OT as I feel this season Berbatov will be a real threat"

Now I think you will take my posts more serious

Aguero to sign Jan

THE DAYS OF EARLY SPENCER
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IF you did post this (you little fibber) then of course no one would have taken you seriously.

Who would've thought that £32 mill waste of space Berbanob would start well?

F*ck me he's crap!

Bair Mayne YNWA

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07 Oct 2010 21:34:13
On the 31st September i posted that last Fridays Euro millions would be 01 - 04 - 06 27- 48 Lucky stars: 01 -06, bet u all wish u listened to me.

Me and Early Spencer are gay lovers.

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07 Oct 2010 20:36:48
I WILL ACCEPT YOUR APPLAUSE NOW.

My post from August 23rd 2010

"LFC will be sold mid October to (and you may not like this) Americans. A major sporting investment company are working on a deal to sell the club with the current owners losing over £50m each! Expect a court battle to ensue. I also fear by October we could be in the very lowest league position and fear our Carling cup campaign will end early. I predict UTD will win at OT as I feel this season Berbatov will be a real threat"

Now I think you will take my posts more serious

Aguero to sign Jan

THE DAYS OF EARLY SPENCER

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He never posted all that Ed? Did he?

DD {ed's note - I don't think he did, no.}
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To the ed,

First I am not the guy who posted this in the earlier phase. But somehom my subconscious mind remembers reading something about the ensuing battle in the case and american owners of investors. I think the guy could be making a genuine statement here for applause but he lost his credibility when he mentions after the court battle. I am sure someone wrote it till that point but when I do not know or recollect?? This basically implies one of us knew everything from the beginning. I take this space to think him but seriously the guy above is a false man and should be banned just for making false and bad predictions about LFC results.

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07 Oct 2010 20:26:13
The Economy news said on the 16th August 2010 that "Hicks and Gillet retain a 100% shareholding in the club but ceded management control to the Liverpool board as a condition of their last refinancing deal with RBS in April". This after rejecting an offer from the Rhone group; It would seem to me, with all the activity over the last couple of days, and especially the confidence of Mr Broughton about potential outcomes, that Hicks and Gillet are finally on their way out, with their tails firmly between their legs.

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07 Oct 2010 20:14:08
I WILL ACCEPT YOUR APPLAUSE NOW.

My post from August 23rd 2010

"LFC will be sold mid October to (and you may not like this) Americans. A major sporting investment company are working on a deal to sell the club with the current owners losing over £50m each! Expect a court battle to ensue. I also fear by October we could be in the very lowest league position and fear our Carling cup campaign will end early. I predict UTD will win at OT as I feel this season Berbatov will be a real threat"

Now I think you will take my posts more serious

Aguero to sign Jan

THE DAYS OF EARLY SPENCER

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He never posted all that Ed? Did he?

DD {ed's note - I don't think he did, no.}


Maybe he did in his own little world.

Sooty

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07 Oct 2010 20:04:43
Go to liverpool archives mate and copy your post so we can compare my guess is you might have trouble finding it

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07 Oct 2010 19:58:41
Too the days of pearly spencer i new it was going too happen as well plus i predicted the second world war the fall of the berlin wall twin towers destruction THERE IS A ARCHIVES PAGE MORAN so easy too be fiound out son so so easy
cant wait for the end of G&H well done Broughton Ayre and Purslow take a bow
UP THE POOL
REDDAN

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07 Oct 2010 19:51:03
"07 Oct 2010 19:23:56
I WILL ACCEPT YOUR APPLAUSE NOW.

My post from August 23rd 2010

"LFC will be sold mid October to (and you may not like this) Americans. A major sporting investment company are working on a deal to sell the club with the current owners losing over £50m each! Expect a court battle to ensue. I also fear by October we could be in the very lowest league position and fear our Carling cup campaign will end early. I predict UTD will win at OT as I feel this season Berbatov will be a real threat"

Now I think you will take my posts more serious

Aguero to sign Jan

THE DAYS OF EARLY SPENCER"

Nice try, but i'd be surprised if you reeled more than a couple in.

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07 Oct 2010 19:46:31
Any chance that an Ed can corroborate on this?

07 Oct 2010 19:23:56
I WILL ACCEPT YOUR APPLAUSE NOW.

My post from August 23rd 2010

"LFC will be sold mid October to (and you may not like this) Americans. A major sporting investment company are working on a deal to sell the club with the current owners losing over £50m each! Expect a court battle to ensue. I also fear by October we could be in the very lowest league position and fear our Carling cup campaign will end early. I predict UTD will win at OT as I feel this season Berbatov will be a real threat"

Now I think you will take my posts more serious

Aguero to sign Jan

THE DAYS OF EARLY SPENCER {ed's note - just check the archive and you will know it is just a wind up.}

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07 Oct 2010 19:42:27
Question for the ed , or anyone that knows anything.
can what hicks has said today be true? that he has sacked purslow and ayre an installed his son and the other one legally an they have rejected the bid.
surely broughton wouldn't have gone public if they could oust the board so easily.

that aside, i hope to god the deal goes through as quick as possible from what i have read about the boston lot they know how to run a sports club, red sox are succesful in business and on the field. would love to see liverpool where we belong with all the success of our history and turning over good profits to keep the team fresh like in the old days replace one a season maybe 2 and keep building. as for the ground i would love a redevelopment of anfield as much as a new stadium as long as we don't share with the bluenoses

going back to the 3 board members Broughton has stuck to his word and done a fantastic job. ayre has turned the fortunes of the club around with excellent marketing and sponsorship deals(we lagged behind so many for so long in these 2 areas)and purslow who so many doubted and who has proved them all wrong by standing up to the yonks and fighting for what he believes in - i thank you all for saving our club

bigg2966 {ed's note - it is impossible to tell who is right without access to the company's statutes mate. The courts will have full access to all relevant documentation though so we will soon all know for sure. I do think Broughton would not have gone public if he wasn't 100% sure he was in the right.}

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07 Oct 2010 19:39:02
"LFC will be sold mid October to (and you may not like this) Americans. A major sporting investment company are working on a deal to sell the club with the current owners losing over £50m each! Expect a court battle to ensue. I also fear by October we could be in the very lowest league position and fear our Carling cup campaign will end early. I predict UTD will win at OT as I feel this season Berbatov will be a real threat"

Now I think you will take my posts more serious

Aguero to sign Jan

THE DAYS OF EARLY SPENCER

Thats insightful, a pity theres a rumour archive and your post is not there.you mug.Red Ted

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07 Oct 2010 19:35:01
Regards this . .
I WILL ACCEPT YOUR APPLAUSE NOW.

My post from August 23rd 2010

"LFC will be sold mid October to (and you may not like this) Americans. A major sporting investment company are working on a deal to sell the club with the current owners losing over £50m each! Expect a court battle to ensue. I also fear by October we could be in the very lowest league position and fear our Carling cup campaign will end early. I predict UTD will win at OT as I feel this season Berbatov will be a real threat"

Now I think you will take my posts more serious

Aguero to sign Jan

THE DAYS OF EARLY SPENCER

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He never posted all that Ed?? Did he?

DD {ed's note - I don't think he did, no.}

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07 Oct 2010 19:33:52
Is it possible Hicks has secured a line of credit? Otherwise why waste even more money to fight the sale when RBS could take control on the 16th anyway.

I sincerely hope he hasn't, he fails, loses a fortune and learns a huge lesson about greed.

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07 Oct 2010 19:23:56
I WILL ACCEPT YOUR APPLAUSE NOW.

My post from August 23rd 2010

"LFC will be sold mid October to (and you may not like this) Americans. A major sporting investment company are working on a deal to sell the club with the current owners losing over £50m each! Expect a court battle to ensue. I also fear by October we could be in the very lowest league position and fear our Carling cup campaign will end early. I predict UTD will win at OT as I feel this season Berbatov will be a real threat"

Now I think you will take my posts more serious

Aguero to sign Jan

THE DAYS OF EARLY SPENCER

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07 Oct 2010 19:01:16
RE:

Just heard that Messi and Kaka are big red socks fans and it will be there dream to play for the owners. Expect them to sign in january.


Really? Wow! Then I would expect Marks & Spencers to stock up on their range of Size 6-11 Autograph 100% cotton red socks at their local Church Street branch. .

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07 Oct 2010 18:32:33
I like how people have started posted fantasy purchases.

I doubt if players purchases have even been seriously considered. NESV haven't concluded the deal yet so away with you with your mickey mouse line ups.

I have no idea what Hicks is up to. Probably just starring at a big hole in his credibility in the financial world - if he even had any in the first place. Why was the club sold to these muppets in the first place!

Anyway, my rumour is nada, nothing will obviously happen to the transfer window reopens and we'll be some of the last people to find out anyway.

Here's to 3 points in the Derby!

GS

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07 Oct 2010 17:48:33
Ins:January
:Juan Mata=15M
:Stefan Kiessling-10M

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07 Oct 2010 17:46:41
It f. . .g baffles me!

Hicks, as of today, claims he didn't give any written undertakings to M. Broughton. . Here's the quote:

"Hicks' New York-based spokesman, Mark Semer, said the Americans are disputing Broughton's claim.

Semer told Bloomberg News: "There were no such undertakings given to Broughton, the board has been legally reconstituted, and the new board does not approve of this proposed transaction."

What's going on? ? Who is hallucinating here, Hicks or Broughton?
RHI

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07 Oct 2010 17:43:05
NESV also have the option of approaching RBS to buy the £285m debt from them, meaning Hicks and Gillett would effectively owe NESV the money, leaving H&G in an unwinable position.

H&G have been backed into a corner, Well done to purslow & co.

Hopeful Red.

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07 Oct 2010 16:56:41
"07 Oct 2010 15:46:11
Just heard that Messi and Kaka are big red socks fans and it will be there dream to play for the owners. Expect them to sign in january."

Really? Wow that would be, like, the best thing ever. And to think everyone said we couldn't attract big name players any more. I think with Messi on the right and Kaka in a central pairing with Ger. . . wait a minute, you misspelt "Sox". I'm not sure this guy is telling the truth and i feel pretty foolish now.

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07 Oct 2010 16:35:54
Heard Roy Hodgson is pondering a shock move to bring danny murphy back to the kop, in order to add some steal to in midfield, due to poulsen not being up to scratch. He feels that dannys experience in the premier league will offer an excellent foil for lucas to learn from, as well as one which is sure to be popular with the fans.

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07 Oct 2010 16:11:28
Unsigned wrote at 07 Oct 2010 14:56:57:

"Someone on here said that Martin Broughton was friends with boston red-sox owner and no matter who bids for the club Martin Broughton would flavour this big.

Who is carrying out the due-diligences on this deal and will this information be realsed to the fans"

NESV would have their accountants conduct due diligence and this will have been completed. It will not be made available to the public.

Sharkey.

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07 Oct 2010 15:46:11
Just heard that Messi and Kaka are big red socks fans and it will be there dream to play for the owners. Expect them to sign in january.

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07 Oct 2010 15:10:55
Re: rafa's fault


Are you aware that of the 100m talent that has left the club it was rafa who bought and sold these players, rafa knew exactly what he was doing last year buying aqua&johnson he knew when he left the team would not be a CL side and that was his departing plan all along, an im a scouser mate.
Rafa ruined liverpool with his poor buys and mismanagement ie alonso and masa.
Its not roys fault that Rafas squad he inherited was woeful and rafa even got the piece of crap jovanic just another Voronin. am I right?

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07 Oct 2010 15:02:26
With things finally looking a bit brighter for the reds, i think its time we started up the aguero rumours once more so here goes:

Aguero to Liverpool in January for £28m + jovanovic (worst free signing ever!)

Trust me this is from a reliable source.

Sir Martin

P.S david villa and silva both struggling to settle at new clubs so expect a double deal to go through on jan 31st. They're both reds fans etc. etc. .
You heard it hear first.

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07 Oct 2010 14:58:44
Allrite ed, when do oyu think the takeover will be completed be?
and do you think hicks attempts to hold on to the club will be succesful
HOPE NOT
YNWA {ed's note - it will take a couple of months, even without a court fight, for the takeover to be completed. I doubt very much whether Hicks will be able to win any court case.}

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07 Oct 2010 14:56:57
Someone on here said that Martin Broughton was friends with boston red-sox owner and no matter who bids for the club Martin Broughton would flavour this big.

Who is carrying out the due-diligences on this deal and will this information be realsed to the fans

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07 Oct 2010 14:50:54
LOL @ Johnson playing in Spain. I'd let him go if we get what we paid for him, I'd gladly have Arbeloa back. .

What would Arbeloa go for ?

TEE JAY LFC

{Editor's Note: Arbeloa's value is similar to Johnson's - but way less than Liverpool paid for him.}

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07 Oct 2010 14:27:38
For every goal or assist Johnson provides, he's as fault for 2 the other end. He looks all over the shop at times. . For a decent return I'd let him go.

DD

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07 Oct 2010 14:12:48
* Liverpool fans, how big a blow would losing Johnson be?"

not massive, he is not a great defender and will be easily replaced

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07 Oct 2010 14:03:25
First time caller. Long time listener. (Scotland)

These are my thoughts on targets and potential signings that have been around in some websites and paper talk. These are obviously based on our position come January ie if we are out of the relegation battle and cut down the gap between us and the top or just not falling further behind. If we did achieve this then the idea of joining us would be a little more attractive. Not saying that this will happen but here's hoping eh.

Ins

Mata 10m+Babel
Dzeko 10m+cash left from Masch deal
Shawcross somewhere around the 15m mark

total 35m plus babel and leftovers from masch deal

The outs are purely based on who I think we should get rid of as part of the dead wood as wanted by Mr Hodson. These again are just my thoughts and are based on people actually wanting to buy. Not sure of the price tag either but are just what I think would be fair.

Outs

Aquilani 12m cut down price from what is agreed with Juve as we want him off the wage bill.
Babel part exchange
Maxi 7m
Nemeth 2m
Insua 5m
Degen 2m
El Zhar 2m

Total 30m+ Babel

This would add around 50k max to the wage bill and the owners would have to fork out 5m up front which would be a good piece of business.

Team would look like

1st 2nd Back-up
Reina Jones(HG) Itandje
Johnson(HG) Kelly(HG)
Konchesky Aurelio
Agger Carra(HG) Wilson
Shawcross(HG) Skrtel
Cole(HG) Kuyt
Mata Jovanavic
Gerrard(HG) Shelvey(HG)
Merieles Poulsen Lucas
Torres Pacheco
Dzeko Ngog

Not sure if Carra or Shawcross in the first team. Obviously depends on strikers in opposition team etc. Jova/ Kuyt could also be used up front where I think they belong but with the squad we have there are no back up players for the wide positions.

believe if you agree that this would be good, unbelieve if you disagree

Personal note: I think it is a good thing these owners are coming in. Forget the fact that they are American as this is irrelevant. Look at what they done with the red sox. I'm all for keeping Anfield for developement but would prefer stanley park as the potential 60,000 could then be upgraded once the royalties start coming in and possibly end up with 70,000+. If we could get the 60,000 seater Anfield to develop even further after a decade or so then I would say stay where we are.

Lets start getting behind the team and make Anfield a fortress that it once was. YNWA!

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07 Oct 2010 13:34:15
With the club plunged in crisis, Liverpool fans will not welcome the breaking news today that Glen Johnson is preparing for a move to Spain!

The flying right-back, an £18m signing from Portsmouth last summer, has been one of the club's star performers in an abysmal 18 months.

With the club's ownership issues set to rumble on and the team struggling on the field, Johnson is one of the most saleable assets at Anfield, and seems to be preparing for an exit.

In an interview with the Daily Mail, Johnson revealed that he was learning Spanish, even taking pronunciation tips from Fernando Torres and Pepe Reina!

"In any walk of life it can be advantageous to learn languages, " he explained. "You never know what the future holds."

"The typical English person doesn't learn the language when they go to Spain or to speak to Spanish friends, expecting people to speak English to them. I don't want to do that."

"I think it can surprise people if you start speaking their language and they are not expecting it. It's like a secret weapon."

Real Madrid manager Jose Mourinho signed Johnson during his time at Chelsea, and could be keen on a reunion at the Bernabeu.

* Liverpool fans, how big a blow would losing Johnson be?

{Editor's Note: I am pretty sure that Glen Johnson was signed by Claudio Ranieri at Chelsea and sold by Jose Mourinho.}

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07 Oct 2010 13:28:27
London evening standars + unofficial spurs site RE kranjcar, i need to prove myself here over the next couple of years harry has said my chance will come and its up to me to take it! harry said if he takes his training ground form onto the pitch then it would be hard to shift him! so again wishfull thinking by you lot as per usual!

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07 Oct 2010 13:27:40
ED just wondering if the takeover goes ahead, how much do you think the new owners will give for transfers.some people here have posted 20million, to me that is nowhere near enough, i think we need about 50million.tbh i wouldn't trust roy with that money, i mean would we be happy if he spent 10 million on roy shawcross! !??

{Editor's Note: The thought that owners allocate a budget for transfers is not typically correct. Normally, the coaching staff will propose a list of players that they would like to be considered and that is discussed with the powers that be - for example, a director of football. A case will be made for the funding and that will be approved or not by the board/owners (or whoever, as it varies club-by-club). At that point an approach will be made to the club that the player is contracted to. What does not happen typically happen is the board giving a fixed amount of money and the manager spending it at his own free will. That was tried (at least in principle) with Benitez and went horribly wrong. I would expect no more than a couple of signings in January.}

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07 Oct 2010 12:55:12
If Hodgson is still here in Jan then I think he will go for players who know the Premiership, the exception of maybe one.

I expect to see 3 players come in Jan and then maybe another 4-5 for next season.

Jan
In
Shawcross - 10m
Kranjcar - 8m
Mata - 18m or 10m plus Babel

Total - 36m

Out
Soto - 3m
Maxi - 4m
Babel- 8m

Total = 15m + money from Masc sale and new owners


Next season

In
Gomes -18m
Honda - 10m
Tawio - Free
Dann - 5m
Bangea -12m (I hope)

Total = 45m

Out
Aquca - 15m
El Zhar - 3m
Insua - 4m
Lucas - 8m
Poulsen - 2m

Total -= 32m

Net spend = 13m

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07 Oct 2010 12:49:41
I can't believe some of the idiot responses on here still questioning broughton ayre and purslow theyve done a great job! As for fans questioning the new owners as was said in a previous post the red sox are the best run team in american sports, there is possibly 12 people involved with them so money should not be a problem with clearing the debts. Broughton is risking his reputation he has built up his whole business life so i don't think he would sell to clowns! So lets get behind the team against the blue noses.
dcg

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07 Oct 2010 12:36:48
To the unknown entity that said: " Mata will be the only singing"

Yes, and the end of the world is due for the 2012.
RHI

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07 Oct 2010 12:26:44
Mata will be the only singing

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07 Oct 2010 12:26:32
Ed I do not believe that there is any likelihood whatsoever in the current economic climate and at this stage of the game that Hicks will be able to persuade someone to lend him £300m so as to refinance. Who in their right mind will want to entrust £300m of their money to the failure that is Tom Hicks. His track record in repaying his debt is unlikely to inspire any lender with any confidence in his ability to repay them £300m. There is also little prospect at this stage of someone else making a higher offer. Even if someone does do so, there is no prospect whatsoever of such a person being able to conclude the due diligence required for this deal within the time left before RBS's debt falls due. If Hicks somehow persuades someone to make a higher offer and takes the board and or RBS to court to force them to sell to this higher bidder, then when reviewing this case a court will undoubtedly agree with Broughton that such an investor has had ample opportunity to step up to the plate and has not done so in time. The court will seek to establish whether Broughton and the board made the right call in agreeing to sell for £300m to NEVS. When Broughton and the board made this decision yesterday, the position was that (i) the owners had shown no prospect whatsoever of being able to refinance, (2) a lengthy sales process had taken place giving bidders ample opportunity to make offers, and (3) there was no one horizon willing to make a bid other than the 2 parties that have done so at around the £300m mark . Given all of this and in particular the deadline day for repaying RBS rapidly approaching, I would be astounded if a judge were to conclude that the board's decision yesterday to agree a sale to NEVS was anything other than the correct thing to do and in the best interests of the club. It seems to me that Ayre and Purslow during their time at the club have done a great job on the commercial side of things (had Morres and his team done the same he could have self funded a new stadium). In addition Ayre and Purslow together with Broughton have managed to out manoeuvre the parasites that have been leeching of our club. As many of us suspected Hicks and Gillette's greed means that they will leave in disgrace with a gapping big hole in their wallet. Justice has been served and Broughton Ayre and Purslow should be commended and thanked for a very professional job. Hicks wriggling of over the next week will merely be of a nuisance value. he will only succeed in making a further dent in his wallet. A fool and his money are soon parted. Good riddance. Reality Red

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07 Oct 2010 12:10:12
Bensmith_times Broughton v Hicks/ Gillett case could be heard as early as tomorrow #lfc

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07 Oct 2010 11:54:54
Expect a major twist before the 15th of october reguarding who the new owners are. Broughton is a very shrewd man and i have a strong suspicion whats happening now is nothing more than a charade.

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07 Oct 2010 11:30:40
NESV will be owners before the derby next Sunday, that is the good news. They will straight away get rid of £200m of the debt and will re-develop Anfield as it is the cheaper option, although for me not the best. The new stadium looked great.
NESV will provide £20m in January, but whether Hodgson is in charge by then is another matter. RH has until christmas to prove he's the right man for the job to NESV. If not, Martin O'Neill is the likely candidate to replace him. I'm no fan of Hodgson and think he's a poor tactician as he's never amounted to anything during his career (a chimp could win the Allsvenskan and Tippeligaen. He failed with both Inter and Blackburn, the 2 big clubs he'd managed previously, so I'm expecting O'Neill to be in by the new year. I have no idea who MON will sign should be appointed, but here's my guesses:
OUTS
Maxi Rodriguez - Joined because Maradona was watching Insua and Mascherano. Now they've gone he's no reason to want to stay. Around £6m.
Charles Itandje - Isn't wanted what-so-ever. Around £1m.
Lucas Leiva - Isn't wanted by the fans. Would be a wise choice to get on the right side of many. Around £7m.
Ryan Babel - Similar to Lucas. Very predictable. Around £10m.

Adding up the £20m given plus the £14m amassed through sales that's an impressive £34m to spend, enough to sign 2 good players.

INS
Ashley Young - MON will certainly want to work with him again. Question is will he sign him and will Houllier let him go. Around £24m.
Sulley Muntari - Wants to go and MON is an admirer from his Pompey days. Around £8m.

So I'd imagine the side would line up like:
- - - - - - - - - - Reina- - - - - - - - - -
Johnson- -Carragher- - - -Agger- - - - Aurelio
- - - - - - Muntari- - - Meireles- - - - - - -
Cole- - - - - - - -Gerrard- - - - - - - -Young
- - - - - - - - - -Torres- - - - - - - - - - -

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07 Oct 2010 11:18:33
Not sure where I read it but MB said its in the new owners contact that the cannot put debts on the club books like H&G. So in effect we will continue to remain debt free irrelevant of where the £300mill comes from

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07 Oct 2010 10:12:26
On liverpoolfc.tv, I read a rumour about Juan Mata. As a part of the deal, Babel will go the other way with 10m pounds. Its only a rumour on the club site and it is not very likely, but there is definitely the possibility.

-Sahil

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07 Oct 2010 10:12:11
Looks like H&G are taking the sales process with a date pencilled in for next week. This is far from over as it may be that any sale without shareholder approval would be a breach of the investment agreement entered into between the club and H&G. I am aware that the articles of association of the club provide that no director of the board can be replaced without the chairman's authorisation, but the articles can be changed by a shareholder4 written resolution. We just don't know if the correct procedures were followed. Given H&G's stance, it would not suprise me if the holding co was placed into admin whilst this was playing out. At least we know that there is an interested party that would buy the group out of admin quickly.
Scouser Tommy

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07 Oct 2010 10:03:37
Yes, I agree with Adam Red Sox. It has been stated they will buy the club with 300m. 200 is in cash to cover the debt of H and G - with 37 debt left over. Another 100 is to cover the various costs of the stadium never built and costs built up by H and G.

The great news is H and G will lose 144 million. The bad news is they will fight it. Even if the court judgement goes the new owner's way next week, H and G can appeal, so it could be a while before this is resolved. They also have till the 15th to repay back RBS.

Of the new deal, the payment is in cash to make the club nearly debt free. However, Broughton was not able to answer the question of where that cash comes from. It is perfectly logical that the cash comes from a bank loan to the new owners. The question if thsi happens is whether it is then put back on the club. Essentially, this is what hapened with Glazer and H and G and both initially said they were buying with cash which would not be put back into the clubs and then was.

It is true that the Red Sox look well managed. Also, redevelopment of Anfield rather than a new stadium appeal to tradition. They easily do this and still redevelop the grounds around Anfield. But we all need to remain a little sceptical of the financials.

Th ebest case then is they reduce the debt to 37m, and do not pile any new debt arising for them personally on to the club. This would access to the profits which could go on players and this could be substantial. This will all be as much about the business model as anything else.07 Oct 2010 00:12:44
06 Oct 2010 23:47:17
Hi, im a liverpool fan, and i understand what the orginal poster is saying. This fund may or maynot have $500m, but since credit-crunch no one is sure how much they lost off the value. fans need to understand thay this investment vehicle could be carrying huge debts too. Its also not contructive to attack someone who is talking sense. We have not scored a marjor wealthy investor. Just someone who is able to rise 300m like Hicks did. These people are just like Hicks in terms of wealth. So im not really impressed with this deal.

To raise 300 million in the current climate wouldn't be difficult with NESV's track record but i believe from Broughtons interviews that they haven't borrowed( i could be wrong though). I believe they will try and bring in one or two players in january to show intent(maybe mata) but we all know january is a difficult time to buy. Also I think works on stadium will move alot quicker.
Heres to the future!
Adam red sox

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07 Oct 2010 10:01:57
To the guy who said ". .Redevelopment of anfield is not an option, with the council having already saved them their 'patch' the area of anfield is busy rotting while a sports team dallies".

The club are not legally obliged to act on their approval if they do not wish. They can by all rights let it lapse. Of course it could be seen as a waste of money in fees, but you may find that cost wise purchasing the surrounding properties and redeveloping Anfield maybe a more cost effective option than starting again.
Bastian's Father.

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07 Oct 2010 09:56:28
Just listened to David Buik on SSN. He's a respected market analyst & is in the know when it comes to big business tranactions. He believes the Hick & Gillett don't have a leg to stand on & in NO WAY can Liverpool fans compare them to the prospective new owner. They will clear the debts with a cash buy out & clear all debts on our club. There is only a few clubs in all 4 domestics leagues in England that can balance the books, this means a healthy future for our club.
He mentioned that the guy that brokered the deal is a huge Red Sox fan, but would never touch any investment if it didn't make financial sense. With all debts clear & Liverpool having massive pulling power when it comes to marketing, it looks like we'll have decent transfer funds & stability for the club. J

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07 Oct 2010 09:46:31
Ed, do you think that Liverpool is heading towards court? And if yes, what can be the end results. thanks {ed's note - it will go to court, I have no doubts about that. The only way Hicks could win in court is if he has another bidder willing to pay more money for the club. Without that buyer ready to go immediately, he hasn't a leg to stand on.}

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07 Oct 2010 09:14:33
RIP Lil Fagan

YNWA {ed's note - my best wishes to her family, R.I.P. Lil.}

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07 Oct 2010 08:46:57
In reply to this:-

-They may bring in £10m player so what, they won't be building a stadium. It sure total lack ambition. They won't be investing in player the folllowing year. Red-sox have gotten the "tag-well-run" by not spending on players and making do with what they have. Something lfc can't do. playing squad needs major investment, new stadium and everyone wants championsleague again, which will take real money.

You sir seem to be full of it, like all americans.

What the RedSox actually did was identify where they needed players the most, and then only spend what they needed to do to get the right players,

example - Adrian Beltre (3rd Baseman) had not reached his potential over the past few seasons, Redsox offered him a reasonable deal, and guess what, he was one of their best performers this year!

If the MLB was only two divisions instead of the six it is now, the Redsox would always be in the top three or four teams, always challenging, it's just unfortunate for them that this year they had many key players out (arguably their 2 best players Pedrioa and Youkillis (1st and 2nd base) Ellsbury (Outfield), Lowell (1st/ 2nd base - now retired) and their pitching staff have also been hit by injuries. Its also the case that two of the other top teams play in their division.

The New Owners (when complete) may not throw money around on loads of players (Sheijk style), but they will make sure money is invested wisely where it is needed, which is just how we need LFC to be managed, Smartly.

I am a life long Liverpool supporter and also a RedSox fan since 2003 (first got into baseball through American In-Laws) I've ben to Anfield and Fenway (not as often as I'd like I'll admit, but distance and finace prevent it being more often)
Fenway is an old stadium and has character just like Anfield (the redsox are in my opinion the Liverpool of the baseball world - and I promise I said that in 2003)

Give them a chance before writing them off! After all the negativity of the past few years, it is time to find something positive!

El Diablo! (REDSOX NATION YNWA)

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07 Oct 2010 08:43:25
Hi Ed, I wish to know why Mr Broughton has not published all the names of the bidders and reasons why their bids had failed as we LFC fans have the right to know. Another thing I wish to know is why the name of the Asian bidder has not been mentionned and the reasons why it was rejected.

Mauritian LFC fans {ed's note - Broughton is unable to name names due to the NDAs that are in place.}

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07 Oct 2010 08:27:00
My theory and none has said this. this sale is all about the biggest back hander hope as all big deals are think about it broughton ayre and purslow all know that they can over through h&g so why not go for it i can gurantee something more is init for them

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07 Oct 2010 08:23:39
Ed,

If hicks & mach 3 were to delay the sale by fighting & we went into administration. Would we be deducted 10 points by the premier league? {ed's note - that would be an FA decision, I wouldn't think so though as the club itself would not be in administration but its holding company would be.}

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07 Oct 2010 07:44:22
Redevelopment of anfield is not an option, with the council having already saved them their 'patch' the area of anfield is busy rotting while a sports team dallies.

the council will force the building of a new ground so the long promised and needed housing redevelopment can go ahead.

If it was left to me I'd tell them to go and play in Knowsley as what they've done to the streets around the ground is a disgrace.

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07 Oct 2010 01:36:33
Liverpool could be buying rated midfielder juan mata!
this is great news and it will definately strengthen aur midfield.
Roy plans on buying him with 10m and babel

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07 Oct 2010 01:20:54
I live in Canada these days not far from Toronto. I have just got back from taking my kids to football practice, and got talking to a few of the dads there. One works for a huge Sporting Chain in Canada, he supports Liverpool aswell. He is delighted with the ownership change, said to me wait and see this will be brilliant for the club. His exact words, 'the best run sports club in the whole of North America is the Red Sox.'

He believes the lack of commitment to new stadium is entirely due to the emotional attachment to Anfield, and says they will bust a gut to redevelop Anfield, rather than build a new 'characterless' stadium. Said its exactly what they did to Fenway Park.

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07 Oct 2010 00:43:11
07 Oct 2010 00:27:40
Also man city are trying to land Torres by offering a straight swap for Carlos Teves
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Tevez turned us down to chase the cash at Citeh - we don't need players like him at our club - Torres is far better than him in every respect - LIVERPRES

There all in it for the money but to be fair to Tevez he always gives 110% to whichever club he plays for & his goalscoring record is pretty good. I think he'd compliment Torres when Torres's fit & lead the line when he's injured. Most likely won't happen though. I can't imagine city selling to us when we have new owners & could be a major threat again.
Adam red sox

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07 Oct 2010 00:27:40
Also man city are trying to land Torres by offering a straight swap for Carlos Teves
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Tevez turned us down to chase the cash at Citeh - we don't need players like him at our club - Torres is far better than him in every respect - LIVERPRES

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07 Oct 2010 00:24:21
Ok, So, Theres Three Groups Interested In Us, The Al Kharifi Family, Stefan Persson And NESV, Why do I Keep Hearing People Only Mentioning Two? Any Idea's Ed?

Adi_Apocalypse {ed's note - because the official statement from the club said there were two offers, one of which was rejected and the other, the NESV one, was accepted.}

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07 Oct 2010 00:16:44
I realise that people are going to be sceptic of American owners because of the Texan donkey n his shoeshine boy but cumon lads purslow ayre have jeopardised their careers for this sale to go through. Surely if there was any chance that the new owners could be the same they would know about it! And expect there to be lots of people telling us who we gna buy in jan. Have some faith
Blood red

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07 Oct 2010 00:12:44
06 Oct 2010 23:47:17
Hi, im a liverpool fan, and i understand what the orginal poster is saying. This fund may or maynot have $500m, but since credit-crunch no one is sure how much they lost off the value. fans need to understand thay this investment vehicle could be carrying huge debts too. Its also not contructive to attack someone who is talking sense. We have not scored a marjor wealthy investor. Just someone who is able to rise 300m like Hicks did. These people are just like Hicks in terms of wealth. So im not really impressed with this deal.

To raise 300 million in the current climate wouldn't be difficult with NESV's track record but i believe from Broughtons interviews that they haven't borrowed( i could be wrong though). I believe they will try and bring in one or two players in january to show intent(maybe mata) but we all know january is a difficult time to buy. Also I think works on stadium will move alot quicker.
Heres to the future!
Adam red sox

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