Liverpool Rumours Archive October 06 2010

 

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06 Oct 2010 23:52:32
Broughton suggested that NESV may not build a new stadium, instead opting to improve anfield. I didn't think this was an option. any ideas what he's talking about?

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06 Oct 2010 23:48:58
Liverpool To Go For Juan Mata In January For 10Mil And Babel Going In The Other Direction? Yes Please!

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06 Oct 2010 23:47:17
Hi, im a liverpool fan, and i understand what the orginal poster is saying. This fund may or maynot have $500m, but since credit-crunch no one is sure how much they lost off the value. fans need to understand thay this investment vehicle could be carrying huge debts too. Its also not contructive to attack someone who is talking sense. We have not scored a marjor wealthy investor. Just someone who is able to rise 300m like Hicks did. These people are just like Hicks in terms of wealth. So im not really impressed with this deal.


Let me tell you, they must be very wealthy to be able to raise 300m in todays climate, the world has changed a hell of a lot since Hicks was able to raise the funds. These are solid people. Dont dismiss them because you don't understand them. .

Macca

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06 Oct 2010 23:20:17
Before everybody welcomes NESV with open arms people need to do a little internet searching on the names and financial details regarding NESV, John W Henry, Tom Werner and Les Otten.

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06 Oct 2010 23:20:02
Dzeko, suarez, forlan, turan, diarra, young etc etc for get it in terms of wealth you lot have just won a tenner on the lottery

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06 Oct 2010 23:13:55
With ROY in charge in JAN he will set his sights on trying to build a new English spine within the club.

Scott Dann
Ryan Shawcross
will give ROY an all ENGLISH BACK FOUR
SWP & YOUNG

done deal but not English GOMEZ

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06 Oct 2010 23:12:37
This is the turdz speaking to whoever posted that
mr diamond is a chelsea fan sorry to burst your bubble what the f*ck does that mean i said he is a chelsea fan nobhead believe me when i say this rbs and barcap with the red sox owners sorted this deal out they made sure any deal was watertight befor going public the knew hicks would be pissed of at this and would mount a legal challenge but they know he will fail that's why they went ahead these guys know their stuff hicks is a dumb texan and he and gillett have been shafted good style and im laffing my balls off well done broughton

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06 Oct 2010 22:58:01
About the new owners:
There is a very good balanced article on epltalk.com
"The Good And Bad Of John W Henry, Liverpool's Potential New Owner"
And having read that and few other articles about them , i think our club will be in safe hands , providing the sale go through.

Many of you here think , other bids will come through, I really doubt it, any other bids will weaken the board legal case, this is something Mr B would have taken into account and he would have made sure all interested parties would have been informed their bids had failed for one reason or another.
Of course nothing will stop a nasty bidder joining Hicks and coming forward, I hope this does not happen because this will drag the court case for ages.

Roy

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06 Oct 2010 22:56:44
Red Sox tix are the most expensive in the MLB but that is based on supply and demand. They have sold out 460 consecutive games and have one of the smallest ballparks in the majors. Average tickets for the Red Sox is $46 (26 pounds) Not too expensive. I'd pay more to see a Liverpool team competing for the title than say see Wigan play or God forbid see us finish 7th. Makes sense to me. If the product is on the field than fans will come

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06 Oct 2010 22:55:26
Mr diamond is a chelsea fan, sorry to burst your bubble.

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06 Oct 2010 22:54:28
This is theturdz speaking
just pulled this from bob diamonds wiki page

Diamond has three children Robert, Nell, and Charlie. An avid sports fan, supporting the Red Sox in Baseball, Chelsea in Association_football, the Patriots in American Football, and the Celtics in Basketball. Diamond is a Republican [7] and an advisor to Conservative Mayor of London Boris Johnson.[8]

Diamond is Chairman of the Board of Trustees of Colby College in Waterville, Maine; Chairman of Old Vic Productions, PLC; Trustee of The Mayor's Fund for London; Member of the Advisory Board, Judge Business School at Cambridge University; Member of International Advisory Board, British-American Business Council; Life Member of The Council on Foreign Relations; and Member of The Atlantic

as you can see the red sox his baseball team and chelsea his football team and who else is a massive chelsea fan yes our mate martin broughton
told you its all falling into place
from theturdz

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06 Oct 2010 22:47:17
It is now being reported that the funds to buy LFC will come from the shareholders of NESV.

They have 17 major investors/ shareholders who are ready to invest in LFC and were recomended to Broughton by Inner Circle.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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06 Oct 2010 22:41:35
This is theturdz speaking
well im going to let you into something here something that you have all missed about this takeover deal BARCLAYS BANK? BARCAP? what do they have in common i ask you? any body know? well i do BOB DIAMOND THE NEW CHIEF EXECUTIVE still thinking arnt you? whats he got to do with all this? WELL HES ONLY BOSTON RED SOXes BIGGEST FAN AND A VERY VERY GOOD FRIEND OF THE OWNER JOHN HENRY! now think about it barcap overseeing the sale rbs talk to barcap tell them they have cast iron guarantees that the yanks carnt refinance the banks only want their money back £300million to cover all debts and penaltys BOB DIAMOND HAS WORDS WITH JOHN HENRY AND SAYS HERE IS A CLUB THAT IF IT HAD NO DEBT IS THE MOST PROFITABLE IN THE PREMEIR LEAGUE I CAN GET IT FOR YOU FOR £300MILLION THATS HALF THE PRICE THE OWNERS ARE HOLDING OUT FOR ITS A LICENSE TO PRINT MONEY.JOHN HENRY AND HIS TEAM LOOK INTO IT AND THEY SEE A CHANCE TO OWN THE GREATEST FOOTBALL CLUB IN THE WORLD FOR PEANUTS, now think of this scenario the banks have been bailed out by the tax payer the bonus culture is reviled by all the public what better way for the banks to get some good publicity for a change they kick out these reviled yanks who are holding the club to ransome with their obscene valuation and sell the club at a loss to the owners and the owners now going ballistic at being shafted makes the bank look like the good guys for once. think about it all makes sense to me have a look at BOB DIAMONDS BACKGROUND ITS ALL THERE THE RED SOX ARE HIS TEAM HES NEVER MISSED AGAME IN YEARS HAS EXECUTIVE SEATS THERE FOR ALL HIS FAMILY HAS BEEN FRIENDS WITH THE OWNERS AND ALL HIS BUSINESS COLLEAGUES THEY GOT TOGETHER AND SORTED THIS BETWEEN THEM I GUARANTEE IT

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06 Oct 2010 22:35:01
Now that the price has been lowerd and accepted at around £300M more bids will come in before 15 oct.
Thay will be more twists to come, the price will stay around 300 320 MARK but the fact the new bidders will have no problems finding the money to build a new 60000 to 70000 ground, will win over the board as the safest bid.Also setting transfers budgets to the maximin profit of the club £50m to £80m per year

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06 Oct 2010 22:27:14
What are the possibilities of Alonso coming back in Anfield, Ed? {ed's note - there are whispers that things are not too good between him and Mourinho but I am not sure that they are any more than wishful thinking. He is the first name on the Madrid teamsheet every game, I really can't see him going anywhere in the near future.}

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06 Oct 2010 22:24:23
No matter what happens with NESV these 3 guys have stood up to H&G and said enough is enough now please f*ck off.

Can't agree with this more, these guys should be treated like heros.

Realistic red

Ynwa

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06 Oct 2010 22:21:44
ED

With new owners who would you target JAN and then summer to get us back on course? {ed's note - it depends how much money is there, most of the regs know I want Keisuke Honda and Alexis Sanchez to be the players we sign if possible. I don't think we need to sign more than 2 players or the disruption could make it difficult for us to get back on course.}

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06 Oct 2010 22:13:05
06 Oct 2010 21:48:02
Lets all say a big thank you to the three musketeers next home game "three min shout keep the faith " what you think ed {ed's note - good idea mate, be nice to show their efforts have been appreciated.}
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Great idea mate IF H&G fail in court then Broughton, Purslow and Ayre should be applauded.

I remember seeing the picture of a Penis with Purslow's name on it after the Sunderland match
(protest) And i hope the guy who had it should now put his own name on it.

No matter what happens with NESV these 3 guys have stood up to H&G and said enough is enough now please f*ck off.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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06 Oct 2010 21:54:09
Think Mr Broughton should be welcomed at the Chelsea game at Anfield, played it right and missed the last one - he's done his job for us and there should be no animosity towards him coming and supporting his team.

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06 Oct 2010 21:48:02
Lets all say a big thank you to the three musketeers next home game "three min shout keep the faith " what you think ed {ed's note - good idea mate, be nice to show their efforts have been appreciated.}

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06 Oct 2010 21:28:35
I would just like to add this if NESV do take over?, will they put the ticket prices up like at the red socks?, because they are meant to be costly & if so will that push the average singing, working kopite out of anfield which in turn will kill the tradition of our great club. . The Fans

Just A Thought
What do you think ed, {ed's note - I hope they don't, I think there are many other things they can do to increase income to the club. Most clubs know that gate receipts are only a small percentage of the club's income, hopefully they will have been informed that prices are already high and that increasing numbers is the best way to improve matchday income.}

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06 Oct 2010 20:52:36
Liverpool are trying to land Juan Mata in january for £10m to £12m also using Ryan Babel as a make weight (liverpool website)
Also man city are trying to land Torres by offering a straight swap for Carlos Teves (caughtoffside.com)
Deiago Forlan has said that he is willing to leave spain (liverpool website)
World cup star Honda, his agent has said he could be coming to the premier league
Lastly Juventus are going to bid £10m for Alberto Aquilani
Lucas could be sold for £7m

I personally think all of these tranfsers would be good, Torres is injury prone at the moment.

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06 Oct 2010 20:50:29
If this takeover does happen ( and I hope it does ) then it will be good riddance to Gillett and Hicks who've nearly ruined LFC .

First things first I hope the new board decide to ditch Hodgson. His long ball style doesn't suit , and will never suit are passing game.
My first choice replacement would be Jurgen Klinsman ( 2nd choice - Quique Sanchez Flores - Athletico Madrid - 3rd Choice - Unai Emery - Valencia) - who would bring a stylish and exciting attacking style of play to our game . I don't think any British manager has the calibre to manage englands Greatest club anymore.

If the new owners are feeling generous then I'd say are priorities have to be left back, wingers, a striker and a replacement for Xabi who we've never been able to replace since he left .

I pray that Hodgson doesn't get his hands on the first set of transfer kitty from the new owners as the players he's bought in and have rumoured to have wanted ( Carlton Cole ?! ?)have been rubbish and haven't had any pride in wearing the shirt .

Hopeful Outs :

Insua
Poulsen
Lucas
Babel
Aquilani
Jovanovic
Kuyt ( Great servant but sell while he's still worth something )
Joe Cole (Past it! )


Hopeful Ins (any of the below) :

LB - Santon (Inter)
LB - Coentrao (Benfica)

CM - Banega (Valencia)(Replacement for Alonso)
CM - Lass Diarra (Real Madrid)
CM - Gokhan Inler (Udinese)
AM - Javi Martinez ( Athletic Bilbao)
AM - Gai Assulin ( FREE! ! )

Lw - Arda Turan ( Galatasary)
LW - Juan Mata ( Valencia)
LW - Eljero Elia - (Hamburg)

RW - Eden Hazard (Lille)
RW - Marc Albrighton ( Villa )

FW - Sergio Aguero ( Athletico Madrid)
FW - Peter Crouch ( Spurs )
FW - Ricky Van Wolfswinkel - (Utrect)
FW - Edinson Cavani ( Napoli )

The only way is up! ! !

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06 Oct 2010 20:28:35
I don't have a clue about most things of course, but NESV's name was thrown in to the ring about a month ago, together with another sports/ media investment company from Canada. I really do think that they will be good for Liverpool though. Assuming it all goes through; the one thing that will happen is stability.

They will go right through the business and correct anything they see as wrong and will start looking at additional advertising right away. And expect to see a lot more advertising. I would suggest that the big changes will come in a couple of years time. This will see what I expect to be a new paradigm for European football through media exploitation - not unlike Barcelona and Real Madrid negotiating their television deals separately to the rest of the league. You will eventually see high-end streaming of games to the internet and cellphones once bandwidth improvements are made, and you will likely see changes to the way LFC television operates. I don't expect too much interference on the playing side and if they follow the same model that has worked elsewhere they will look to build a working relationship with the fans.

I am somewhat surprised at how much bad karma is coming from the fans though.

We'll see.

Sharkey
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That's all i want is stability Sharkey.

I think the bad Karma has been coming from the fans because of H&G and the scars will probably will take years to heal.

We are just waiting and hoping that NESV are as good as you and they say.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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06 Oct 2010 20:28:28
Referance to hicks tweet to sack board members , as far as I am aware if any board members leave a club or join a club the fa have to pass it off first. so take that with a pinch of salt at the moment, hope that helps . Psv elnino , ps boughton said he would do best for liverpool fc so if it goes belly up we know where to find him at the bridge. let's hope we get back where we belong.

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06 Oct 2010 20:25:48
Unsigned asked at 06 Oct 2010 19:51:29:

"Can anyone tell me how much profit LFC is likely to generate once all the debt has gone?"

At the last count, £44M more per year than they do now. This is the amount spent in interest payments.

"Also, by how much would that increase if the stadium capacity was increased to 60,000?"

This is more problematic as you have to take account of the building costs and probably make assumptions about where the funding for the construction is coming from. Additionally, you would be looking at additional running costs, policing, lighting etc., but then ongoing maintenance costs could be reduced and additional corporate and advertising revenue gained. I would guess (back of a bit of paper guess by the way) that if the club borrowed £100M to make the improvements and repayments were at, say, 10% interest, then it would pay for itself for 7 to 8 years and then generate and additional £25M to £30M per annum for the club. Somewhere out there will be figures for the new Arsenal stadium that may give a model for calculation. One other point of note is that they made the improvements to Fenway gradually over several years. Perhaps not ideal but financially sensible.

Sharkey.

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06 Oct 2010 20:21:13
Liverpool need to bring in these players in jan

Xabi alonso
Jaun mata
Deigo forlan
Carlos tevez
Kesukie honda (spelling)

Agree if these are the players you think we need :)

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06 Oct 2010 20:19:50
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I told you so! I was speaking to glen johnson in duke street park , formby. The new owners will fund transfers (not like man city style). Hodgson will be sacked . King kenny to return. Y.N.W.A jimmy

Why the f*ck would glen be at duke street?

Glenn was probably watching the mighty FORMBY ath playing there!. or walking his dog!

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06 Oct 2010 20:10:56
Blair Mayne YNWA mentioned at 06 Oct 2010 19:52:40:

"You will also recall some weeks ago that I mentioned that American investors will be looking at the club with a view to how they can grow and exploit related opportunities - specifically in the media. This is Tom Werner's area of expertise and something that I am sure we will see some significant movement on in the next couple of years. The Red Sox and Yankees have already proven that exploiting opportunities in media and, to a lesser extent, merchandising provides significant income to the club - certainly way more than ticket sales.

So as long as the fans don't drive these guys away, the future looks pretty good.

Sharkey.
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This is what you're best at Sharkey the truth and great opinions.

And yes mate you did say about American investors and how they could grow and exploit related opportunities with the club.

Did you know or hear anything about these potentional investors Sharkey? Or had you not got a clue just like most ou us?"

I don't have a clue about most things of course, but NESV's name was thrown in to the ring about a month ago, together with another sports/ media investment company from Canada. I really do think that they will be good for Liverpool though. Assuming it all goes through; the one thing that will happen is stability.

They will go right through the business and correct anything they see as wrong and will start looking at additional advertising right away. And expect to see a lot more advertising. I would suggest that the big changes will come in a couple of years time. This will see what I expect to be a new paradigm for European football through media exploitation - not unlike Barcelona and Real Madrid negotiating their television deals separately to the rest of the league. You will eventually see high-end streaming of games to the internet and cellphones once bandwidth improvements are made, and you will likely see changes to the way LFC television operates. I don't expect too much interference on the playing side and if they follow the same model that has worked elsewhere they will look to build a working relationship with the fans.

I am somewhat surprised at how much bad karma is coming from the fans though.

We'll see.

Sharkey.

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06 Oct 2010 20:02:39
Just seen a tweet that Hicks has apparantly said "We've legally reconsituted the board and the board is not in favour" - Something to do with 5 live? ?

Not seen it anywhere else & really hope this is not true. Anybody else seen anything?

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06 Oct 2010 20:01:13
Ed could another bidder still come in for the club? {ed's note - yes, there is still time for someone else to bid for the club, it is not done and dusted yet by any means.}

in response ed Broughton has done a deal and presumably shaken on that deal and as he has prooved he is an honest and decent man why would he join the likes of David Moores and change for a few dollars more?

also a quote from NESV statement
We are hopeful with regard to the pending legal and English Premier League procedures now underway; however, in light of these issues, we will respectfully refrain from comment or further actions at this time.
that to me sounds like the liverpool way, we won't tell you what we are going to spend or make promises we cannot fulfill until we are in a position to do so - and i love that word "respectfully" such an LFC word

i believe LFC will once again hold its head up high, no debt but no shiekh buying the title but a well run club who will challenge for trophies with a good business plan and sustainable growth
god i love Boston - CHEERS

thanx to the board - purslow ayre and broughton are now officially in my ultimate liverpool heroes along with shanks, keegan, paisley, souness(as a player) dalglish, rush, stevie g and many many more


bigg2966 {ed's note - the problem is that if someone came in with a bigger bid then Hicks could use that in his court battle with the board, he would then be able to claim that accepting the NESV bid was not in the best interests of the shareholders.}

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06 Oct 2010 19:58:02
I hope everyone who has slagged off purslow, ayre and broughton can now stand tall and say sorry because from what i hear over the last few days if it wasn't for them then we would still be in the hands of the 2 dreaded yanks! i know nothing is actually set in stone yet but all i know is when the new owners come in we need to give them our full support and really get behind the team. . .now is the time for our players to step up too and restore the positive attitude at the club from the pitch through the fans and into the board room

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06 Oct 2010 19:57:56
First of all, before some you of start getting all negative about this understand what these owners did for the Red Sox. Before NESV arrived the Sox had not won a world series since 1918. . let me repeat that, 1918. Two years after they bought the Sox the World Series pennant was theirs and the curse of the bambino was lifted. They will do what's necessary. I imagine they will hire the right person to run the club day to day. They know that they don't fully understand how football works, but they do know how sports works. They don't have deep pockets, but they spent what was needed to get the Sox where they are. They are a longevity minded outfit. Don't think they're going to come in showing off all their oil money buying every prima donna to ever kick a football.

And I bet anyone of you that it is complete horsesh@t that Liverpool's name will be changed to the Liverpool Red Sox. No way in hell. These guys have a respect for tradition. Fenway Park is hallowed ground in baseball. They could have dozed it for a giant-ass stadium with all kinds of crap that distracts from baseball, but they didn't because they knew what Fenway meant to the fans. So seriously, they are not going to change the name. (By the way. . I'm a St. Louis Cardinals fan and I F-ing hate the Red Sox, but I can't deny how well run the Sox ball club is).

Obviously I'm an American and generalizations are for the weak minded. Some Americans do bad business (ahem Hicks). . some do really good business. Some numskulls on here said the same crap about Chinese business men. Nationality has no bearing how one does business. Good business comes from understanding the business your in. NESV does. . period.

Johnny Red

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06 Oct 2010 19:52:40
Blair Mayne YNWA shared his wisdom at 06 Oct 2010 16:20:58"

"No - smoke screens are an invention of Liverpool fans when they see something they don't like (e.g. Liverpool pretending to buy Christian Poulson simply as a smoke screen so they can get Aguero on the cheap).

Sharkey.
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Ridiculing LFC fans again Sharkey?

You santimonious A-HOLE!"

I couldn't help it Blair - sorry. I had sat down to read through what had been posted this afternoon only to find that great post suggesting the sale to the potential new owners was a smoke screen for something else. Great stuff.

If you do want my opinion though (if you don', stop reading now), I think these guys will provide a great solution for the club. I somehow doubt whether vast funding will be made available, but history shows that JWH runs his businesses all above board with investment coming as and when required. Decisions will be taken with the best interest of the club in mind and I expect that they will try to build a relationship with the fans, but financial considerations will be to the fore in any major decisions.

You will also recall some weeks ago that I mentioned that American investors will be looking at the club with a view to how they can grow and exploit related opportunities - specifically in the media. This is Tom Werner's area of expertise and something that I am sure we will see some significant movement on in the next couple of years. The Red Sox and Yankees have already proven that exploiting opportunities in media and, to a lesser extent, merchandising provides significant income to the club - certainly way more than ticket sales.

So as long as the fans don't drive these guys away, the future looks pretty good.

Sharkey.
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This is what you're best at Sharkey the truth and great opinions.

And yes mate you did say about American investors and how they could grow and exploit related opportunities with the club.

Did you know or hear anything about these potentional investors Sharkey? Or had you not got a clue just like most ou us?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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06 Oct 2010 19:51:29
Can anyone tell me how much profit LFC is likely to generate once all the debt has gone?

Also, by how much would that increase if the stadium capacity was increased to 60,000?

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06 Oct 2010 19:45:25
I have a serious question. I thought that when Hicks and Gillet borrowed the £300m from RBS what did this money go towards? I always thought that it was to build a new stadium? People are saying that if the new owners come through they pay off the debt but then have another £300-£400m they have to spend to get a new staduim. Can someone please tell me where the £300 million went?

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06 Oct 2010 19:32:58
Ed - Do you have any word on who the other firm bid was? {ed's note - I get told a different name by everyone I talk to, so nothing definite. There were a lot of people interested so it is difficult to sort the wheat from the chaff and find out which one it actually was.}

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06 Oct 2010 19:30:48
To the tw*t that said we could not afford tevez with the 'new owners'. boston red socks are in the top ten of sport franchises in the world. what makes you think that they couldnt afford tevez.

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06 Oct 2010 19:29:51
I can't wait for Tony Evans to make comment about the buyout. His reputation has now completely gone, not that he ever had one, The way he was talking to callers on Talks* te was a disgrace. Just proves that he just basically guesses about his info. I feel so smug at the moment, I know its not finalised but when it is we will all be in heaven. why do people listen and believe in what he says Ed. .

Sooty {ed's note - purely because he is employed in a position that people still trust to have inside info, even though journalists have been proven, on the whole, to be making up almost everything they write. Perhaps he should no longer be allowed to call himself a journalist but instead be called an author?}

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06 Oct 2010 19:22:15
1 player we need to sign is javi martinez from athletico bilbao.what a player

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06 Oct 2010 19:11:03
06 Oct 2010 18:46:56

To the tube who wrote this!

I reckon we could get Tevez in January now that he has had a falling out with Mancini.

Why would Tevez go to Liverpool Red Sox? There will still be no transfer money to spend takeover or no takeover.
Get real and stop day dreaming this is not fantasy football, but reality.
Reality fRed

((obviously there would be if they said tranfer money is available. WHAT AN IDIOT.
harry5. Read between the lines red

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06 Oct 2010 19:04:26
I told you so! I was speaking to glen johnson in duke street park , formby. The new owners will fund transfers (not like man city style). Hodgson will be sacked . King kenny to return. Y.N.W.A jimmy

Why the f*ck would glen be at duke street?

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06 Oct 2010 18:58:46
I told you so! I was speaking to glen johnson in duke street park , formby. The new owners will fund transfers (not like man city style). Hodgson will be sacked . King kenny to return. Y.N.W.A jimmy

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06 Oct 2010 18:46:56

To the tube who wrote this!

I reckon we could get Tevez in January now that he has had a falling out with Mancini.

Why would Tevez go to Liverpool Red Sox? There will still be no transfer money to spend takeover or no takeover.
Get real and stop day dreaming this is not fantasy football, but reality.
Reality fRed

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06 Oct 2010 18:41:26
What a load of She*p

Another group of mad Yonks, panic sale to Americans who have less wealth than the other two muppets. .

Don't expect investment in players or a new stadium, they haven't got the wealth. The main man was only worth $860m before the crash and is worth a lot less now.

We all now the wealth needed to turn around the team and the players and quality needed (not carp), the stadium and to pay off the debt which will still remain at 60m.

Let's calm down and realise we will be in the same situation again in 2 years time.

How bad must the other bid have been.

Big Roge.

believable if you agree
Unbelievable if you don't.

Remember American's mean bad bad bad news! !

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06 Oct 2010 18:37:19
Ths is **e***** speaking
all lfc fans should be thankful to martin broughton for getting rid of the americans hick and gillett read this the man stood his ground and did what was right for liverpool football club and we should thank him for that here is his statement:

"In trying to remove Christian Purslow and Ian Ayre they made an astonishing move. I say that because, as part of my appointment, they gave specific undertakings to the (major creditors) Royal Bank of Scotland that said Martin Broughton was the only person authorised to make any board changes. They basically flagrantly abused those two undertakings to RBS and removed Christian and Ian from the board and sent us details just before the board meeting (to discuss the NESV deal) saying they had been removed and appointing two others. We took legal advice and I determined that the action was invalid. So I went back to Tom Hicks and George Gillett, reconvened the board meeting and said 'Look, your action is invalid. I told them I was continuing to hold the meeting with Christian Purslow and Ian Ayre present. They objected, called for an adjournment - which I declined - and offered them the opportunity to take part. They chose not to, although George Gillett's lawyer was there."

Broughton is very confident that he will win the legal challenge:

"I am confident. I wouldn't have taken the board through that process yesterday if I hadn't been confident. I wouldn't have exposed everybody to that risk if I hadn't been confident, but you can never be certain. These things are legal judgements. We have been properly advised and I am confident. If there is any justice we will win."
give a big beleivable as thanx to the chairman and his team

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06 Oct 2010 17:46:59
Santon , Gourcuff , Forlan and Mata will sign for Liverpool in January

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06 Oct 2010 17:45:42
Ed plz post to rumour page, thnk you

click bel - if your thinking were can i buy a boston red sox shirt

click unbel - if not

up the red sox lol, whos with me.

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06 Oct 2010 17:40:08
Mr Editor, do you think the new owners will remove roy and appoint a manager of there choice or do you think they will stick with roy till january atleast?

{Editor's Note: I expect them to stick with RH. They will have to get in and get settled first - and they will have to take advice on the footballing side of the business.}

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06 Oct 2010 17:28:00
Now that there has been a takeover and the massive debt is likely to be cleared. . and Liverpool are in a mess, there is likely to be some buisness done for Liverpool Fc in january.

We should target:
Taye Taiwo
Isaac Vorsah
Lassana Diarra
Marko Marin
Dimitri Payet
Xherdan Shaqiri
Edison Cavani
Eljero Elia
Keisuke Honda
Edin Dzeko- Long Shot
Gokhan Inler
Ever Banega
Juan Mata
Pablo Hernandez
Artem Milevskiy

Obviously not all of them but we should get at least 5!

LFC are back!

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06 Oct 2010 17:19:54
These owners will we be able to buy world class players?

{Editor's Note: These owners will provide funding for the team as necessary - but I doubt they will provide vast amounts of cash. It rather depends who you think of as a "world class" player. Always worth remembering that the other team needs to agree to sell and the player wants to come to Liverpool.}
robben suarez forlan villa contenders?

{Editor's Note: Robben and Villa will not want to come to Liverpool; Forlan is already 31; Suarez would be a good buy I think, but it would be a real fight for his signature. If he would come at say £20M I would have thought that the owners would not have a problem with that - he is young.}and

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06 Oct 2010 17:11:03
These owners will we be able to buy world class players?

{Editor's Note: These owners will provide funding for the team as necessary - but I doubt they will provide vast amounts of cash. It rather depends who you think of as a "world class" player. Always worth remembering that the other team needs to agree to sell and the player wants to come to Liverpool.}

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06 Oct 2010 17:09:16
Latest Rumour from Anfield is that if, the deal goes ahead, one of the lesser mentioned stipulations to the deal is that Liverpool change there trading name to the "Liverpool Red Sox" and will be twinned with there famous baseball counterparts. Apparently it is not open to discussion; it is going to happen. "another group of mad yanks"! !

RedandButtered

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06 Oct 2010 15:41:27
In reply to the guy suggesting Steve Nicol. He manages New England Revolution, the MLS team, who are owned by the Kraft Family (also owns New England Patriots), he did show interest in buying Liverpool before H & G, and from what I was told by my relatives in New England, that he would be a much better option and really likes to win and doesn't mind investing to do so.
He does not however (as far as I'm aware) have any interest in the New England Sports Ventures Group who are hoping to complete the purchase.

John W Henry though, (NESV) has major interests in sport and has had sucessful connections in other sports "franchises" before the Red Sox.

If any one uses the word Franchise in connection will owning LFC they need a swift kick up the back side! I only said it there because that's how American Sports Teams/ Leagues Work)

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06 Oct 2010 15:32:45
Ed could another bidder still come in for the club? {ed's note - yes, there is still time for someone else to bid for the club, it is not done and dusted yet by any means.}

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06 Oct 2010 15:32:25
Macca, may yau ask Ian what is going on?lol

Sorry don't get it!

Macca

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06 Oct 2010 15:22:03
Mickreds said AND JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME CREDIT TO MACCA, think a few people owe him an apology!

Thanks Mickreds no apologies needed just glad something positive has happened.

Macca

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06 Oct 2010 15:20:56
ED? ONE THING I HAVE YET TO SEE AS PART OF THE BUY OUT IS TALK OF A NEW STADIUM. . ANY RUMORS? THIS WAS SUCH AN IMPORTANT ASPECT TO THE H&G TAKEOVER BUT NOTHING NOW. {ed's note - there is no guarantee of a new stadium mate. They are going to look into increasing Anfield's capacity first, and the aim is 60,000 only.}

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06 Oct 2010 15:14:14
Kudos to Lee.

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06 Oct 2010 15:10:47
06 Oct 2010 14:51:32
06 Oct 2010 11:24:35
Anyone know when Evans is next on TalkSh* e? I'd love to see how he spins this.
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Tony Evans was on Talk last night being overly agressive to callers and emailers who made points different to his. Emailers who clearly had read sites like this were put down quite rudely in my opinion. It was quite funny that the takeover news broke when he had just left the studio, after spouting his apocalyptic views about our future. It is absolutely ridiculous that his considered the font of all knowledge when talking Liverpool and you could tell there was some 'frostiness' between Evans and the journalist fron the Liverpool Echo.
Those in charge at Talksport should remember he was the one who 'went with' the publicity seeking sham that was the Kenny Haung story. Talksport should remeber this when they discuss Liverpool with balance rather continue with their anti Liverpool agenda.
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I listened too. What annoys me is the freehand Evans has on Talksport. He isn't slapped down by the Liverpool hating Mark Saggers when he 'goes off on one' against a caller with a different opinion to his on Liverpool.

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06 Oct 2010 14:56:27
What happend to interest from Kuwait billionnaires, Sheikh Mohammed, Prince Alwaleed, Sharjah Sheikh Qassimi, Stefan Persson and Mukesh Ambani? Could there be a late bid for the club? Who was Keith representing? Who was Peter Kenyon representing?

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06 Oct 2010 14:53:11
06 Oct 2010 10:47:37
Expect last minute bid from rival bidder to try and take control of the club.
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06 Oct 2010 14:51:32
06 Oct 2010 11:24:35
Anyone know when Evans is next on TalkSh* e? I'd love to see how he spins this.
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Tony Evans was on Talk last night being overly agressive to callers and emailers who made points different to his. Emailers who clearly had read sites like this were put down quite rudely in my opinion. It was quite funny that the takeover news broke when he had just left the studio, after spouting his apocalyptic views about our future. It is absolutely ridiculous that his considered the font of all knowledge when talking Liverpool and you could tell there was some 'frostiness' between Evans and the journalist fron the Liverpool Echo.
Those in charge at Talksport should remember he was the one who 'went with' the publicity seeking sham that was the Kenny Haung story. Talksport should remeber this when they discuss Liverpool with balance rather continue with their anti Liverpool agenda.

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06 Oct 2010 14:49:41
Some more info from the web, good to see there seems to have been a lot of work going on quietly in the background. . . .

The Premier League has given a huge boost to Liverpool being taken over by the owners of the Boston Red Sox by saying they would be ready to give the deal the go-ahead as early as Friday.

League chiefs have been kept informed about the £300million offer by New England Sports Ventures, principally owned by billionaire John W Henry.

Although a Singapore-based consortium is also interested, the American offer looks much more likely to succeed despite opposition from the Reds' current owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett.

The league said in a statement: 'The board of the Premier League has been kept fully informed of developments regarding the potential sale of Liverpool FC by the chairman and senior executives of the club and has, accordingly, been made aware of a number of potential prospective owners in recent weeks.

'We can confirm that Liverpool FC has formally notified the Premier League of an intended change of control and that the board has undertaken to complete all the necessary processes by Friday, October 8 so that the sale of the club can proceed.'

The Royal Bank of Scotland, owed £280million by Hicks and Gillett, are trying to drive the deal through with the backing of Liverpool's independent chairman Martin Broughton.

If Hicks and Gillett block the takeover, then their holding company could be put into administration by RBS over their unpaid debts.

Premier League sources say that whether a points deduction would come into effect remains unclear but it is thought to be unlikely.

Liverpool would argue that under new Premier League rules regarding parent companies, if the club itself is a fully solvent entity - as Liverpool are - then the penalty clause should not apply.

A Premier League source told Press Association Sport: 'The aim of the regulations is primarily to capture clubs who have gone into insolvency.'

For example, last year West Ham's Icelandic owners went into administration but that did not lead to any Premier League action as the club itself was solvent

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06 Oct 2010 14:48:38
How come they have accepted a £300mill offer? After all the talk was always £4-600mill? Is this the price after debt cleared? Also could the new "American owners" just be a smoke screen for the real buyer? Just for the record I have no info, this is purely my own opinion. Fingers crossed great times ahead. .

Lee

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06 Oct 2010 14:31:55
Dont know if anyone else picked up in Broughton's interview on LFC tv, but he said that the debts had been paid - his words taken from the interview - "to all intents and purposes all the major debt that has been causing our problem has been paid off."

Payment made already. .Im pretty confident its gonna go through!

Lets hope there are good times ahead
YNWA JFT96

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06 Oct 2010 14:24:39
Mickreds said AND JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME CREDIT TO MACCA, think a few people owe him an apology!

Macca kept getting our hopes up be saying the club will be sold in one day or two days. Then he stopped and last said club would be sold in two or three months. Maccca was more wrong than anyone. This proves he knows nothing. Lee

i think you will find macca never gave dates or time scales regarding the take over, the post you are thinking of with the 2 or 3 days wasnt written by him, he continually said deal had been made and would soon be announced, was he not correct?

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06 Oct 2010 14:10:14
Ed, when Kenny put his name forward for the managers job in the summer wasn't he told there was a bigger job lined up for him or a job with more longevgity? When the take over is eventually completed i would imagine Broughton at least will move on and maybe purslow and ayre. Do you think Kenny will be moved to board room level?

Mick 1980 {ed's note - I do think he will be involved at that level, I always thought it was the intention to get him involved higher up in the running of the club, a bit like the German model.}

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06 Oct 2010 14:07:12
Found this on a site:

Henry, 55, set the stage for victory by aggressively boosting revenues after he and his partners - including TV producer Tom Werner and veteran baseball exec Larry Lucchino - bought the Red Sox for a record $690 million in early 2002. They made the most of Fenway Park, the oldest stadium in Major League Baseball, by squeezing in more seats and then charging the highest prices for home games, all of which sold out. At the same time, they started broadcasting home games in high definition on their 80%-owned cable sports network, New England Sports Network - helping it routinely win in regional prime-time ratings.

All of this turned the Sox into baseball's second-most-lucrative franchise and gave it the financial muscle to take on the Yankees, who opened the season with a record $184 million payroll. The Sox were second, at $127 million.

Henry - a numbers genius, whose proprietary futures-trading system consistently produces double-digit returns - closed the gap with sabermetrics. That's a system for mining baseball stats to find undervalued players while avoiding long contracts for aging stars - such as pitcher Pedro Martinez - whose performance is likely to decline. Henry built baseball's most effective team but won't settle for one championship. After ending an 86-year drought, he's aiming for a dynasty.

'these boys know what there at, don't like the sound of the pricey seats tho'

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06 Oct 2010 14:00:56
The takeover is not yet complete and people are already posting crazy January wish lists. . . wtf? Can't we all wait until the take over is complete? and if the on field b/ s is not sorted before then who the hell is going want to come to a team fighting relegation anyway? There is way to much work to be done at the moment to worry about January!

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06 Oct 2010 13:46:16
I reckon we could get Tevez in January now that he has had a falling out with Mancini.

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06 Oct 2010 13:41:00
Loan out
Ngog
Pacheco
Spearing
Darby

Sell
Babel - 8m
Poulsen - 3m
Aquilani - 12m
Jovanovic - 2m
Insua - 5m
Total = 30m

Buy
Forlan - 11m
Suarez - 20m
Hazard - 14m
Robben - 23m
Elia - 12m
Lass Diarra - 8m
Torosidis - 9m
Total = 97m

Net spend = 67m


Torres Suarez

Robben Diarra Gerrard Kuyt

Torosidis Agger Carra Johnson

Reina

Squad
Forlan
Hazard
Cole
Elia
Meireles
Lucas
Shelvey
Skrtel
Soto
Wilson
Aurelio
Konchesky
Kelly
Jones

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06 Oct 2010 13:16:39
I would love Anfield to be re-developed, keep the famous KOP


What would fans rather?

Better Anfield Believe

New stanley park Unbelieve

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06 Oct 2010 12:57:27
If this goes through we might get Stevie Nicol as our next manager, doesnt he manage a club for the new owners, just a thought.
Magsman YNWA. .

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06 Oct 2010 12:24:31
Liverpool to sign in january
Juan Mata=10M+Babel
Roman Pavyluchenko or Carlton Cole=8M+12M

out
Aqualani=10-15M
Babel(Swap)

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06 Oct 2010 11:24:35
Anyone know when Evans is next on TalkSh* e? I'd love to see how he spins this.

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06 Oct 2010 11:18:35
Just a question . ? ?

It was said last that that we had two attractive bids one was the ammerican the other asian

What happened to the asian bid?

Also if the americans are buying the club for £300 million surely there would have been other parties who would love to have owned Liverpoll at that price?

Although there appears to have been several meeting Boston london liverpool have we rushed into this?

Woul we have been better to have waited and look at any other bids ?

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06 Oct 2010 11:00:53
John Henry II will not be our new owner NESV will be.
He is just one of many in this sports consortium.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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06 Oct 2010 10:58:21
Hi ed / anyone, If the Yanks (H&G) take legal action, can't the both: block the sale to New England Sports Ventures (NESV) , as well as, get a court interdict to freeze the repayment date? Which could lead up to a long dragged out legal battle lasting months, if not years? {ed's note - I believe the terms of the loan extension they took out are clear cut and this is more posturing to make sure Hicks isn't seen as weak in future dealings. I am sure he will fight this through the courts but I very much doubt it will drag on for more than a few months as the terms laid out on the loan should be clearcut.}

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06 Oct 2010 10:54:03
06 Oct 2010 09:46:18
To Blair Mayne and the Ed. Hicks & Gillette have not been in control of the club's board for several months. The Company's articles of association (which are the rules by which the company manages its affairs) provide that a director cannot be removed without the consent of the Company's chairman. When Hicks and Gillette had their own man as chairman this was not an issue as notwithstanding this provision in the Company's articles there was a shareholders agreement between Hicks and Gillette (i.e. a contractual agreement between them) affording them equal representation on the board. However RBS is not a party to the shareholders agreement and once Broughton the bank's appointee was made chairman (this was a condition of RBS extending the loan period in April by 6 months) Hicks and Gillette lost the ability to appoint and remove directors without Broughton's approval. This was crucial in enabling Broughton and the board to sell the club. The best bit about this is that we are rid of these parasites and they have not made a profit. KARMA. Hicks and Gillette are mounting a legal challenge which is why the sale is conditional. This is likely to be on the basis that directors have a duty under the 2006 Company's Act to act in the best interest of the company and its shareholders. Hicks and or Gillette could argue that they have failed to discharge their duty to the shareholders by accepting a low price. However seeing as there has been a lengthy sales process and there is a danger of imminent administration Hicks and Gillette will find it hard to succeed with such an argument. Proceedings are however a nuisance in that they prevent the sale concluding until the legal dispute runs its course. I just hope this is resolved by the January transfer window. Reality Red
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Thanks Reality yet again. I personally don't know what to think of our potentional new owners. What they need to do now is make a statement of their intensions for our Great Club and put the fans minds at rest.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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06 Oct 2010 10:49:37
06 Oct 2010 09:20:28
Doesn't the premier league need 10 days notice of a takeover?

wouldn't that take us to the 16th- one day after the repayment deadline?

any ideas?

Today is just the day they have made it official. Broughton has said they had meetings in Boston London and Liverpool so the sale process may have started plus the banks can extend the deadline if they please and they would seeing that the club is in the process of a sale

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06 Oct 2010 10:48:03
Given NESV renovated the Red Sox' stadium (amongst other measures) to increase revenue, is this perhaps a sign that a new stadium is not forthcoming? Perhaps, in these troubled financial times, the stipulation of such a massive further investment was simply too great for investors to commit to. With the proven revenue increases from more boxes etc, would adding to Anfield be viable?

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06 Oct 2010 10:47:37
Expect last minute bid from rival bidder to try and take control of the club.

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06 Oct 2010 10:45:34
This is my first post ive been a user of this site for a few years now, wanted to thank all the editors for the lfc rumours site its excellent best on the web.i want to apologise to broughton, purslow and ayre for slating them, click believable if you also want to apologise.cheers well done done eds as i said great site.

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06 Oct 2010 10:29:24
06 Oct 2010 09:53:22
Ed how is john w henry paying for the club, he doesn't have the wealth to buy the club outright. Is it in the form of other part owners like Arsenal or another leverage buy out. The Liverpool Red Sox's, sounds weird. {ed's note - I don't currently have access to those kind of details mate. But the board did say that a leveraged buyout was out of the question, so I am hopeful that they are as good as their word.}

in regards to this, a little bit of internet searching will allow everyone to realise he (john w henry) is one of many partners. in the case of the boston red sox they are part owned(16.8%) by the new yourk post with about 7 or 8 other investors. i would imagine NESV'S combined wealth would be of a much higher regard than just his personal fortune which has surpassed a billion dollars now anyway. he is just a man happy to put his face to the takeover as his track record is impeccable in sports investment and was voted in the american index as 2nd best sports team owner in america last year(hicks came 2nd bottom! ) since taking over the boston red sox he has cannily managed to find outside revenue investment that has helped the team happily hang at the top with the big boys each and everyone season and secure 2 world series in this period;something not achieved at boston for some 80 years i believe. . .
self sufficient sports teams competing at the top is his trade mark and this is exactly what a lfc fan should want and dream of. ownership billionaire play toys is being eradicated by the FA slowly, so it should eventually be irrelevant have the wealthiest chairman anyway.
s.p

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06 Oct 2010 10:27:12
It's not yet a done deal, expect a all American fight for the club.
Also expect more interested parties appear during this battle

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06 Oct 2010 10:25:57
Theodore Alfond
William Alfond
Thomas R. DiBenedetto
Michael Egan
Michael Gordon
John A. Kaneb
Seth Klarman
Henry F. McCance
The New York Times Company
Arthur E. Nicholas
Frank Resnek
Martin Trust
Jeffrey Vinik
ALL ABOVE NAMES ARE AND WILL BE THE NEW OWNERS OF LIVERPOOL FC AS THEY ARE ALL PARTNERS IN New England Sports Ventures.
THEREFORE IT WILL NOT JUST BE ONE OWNER BUT 11 PARTNERS .THIS CAN ONLY BE GOOD AS THEIR COMBINED WEALTH CAN EASILY SETTLE OUR DEBT ISSUE AND START THE NEW STADIUM PROCESS .

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06 Oct 2010 10:20:36
Blair, Ed two additional points. Firstly Hicks and Gillette will be left without a profit once the debt is repaid. In fact they will be out of pocket as they have put some limited funds into the purchase. They therefore have nothing to lose in pursuing legal action, however misguided, other than lawyers fees. Secondly company law requires directors to act in the best interest of both the shareholders and the company itself. Clearly its in the company's best interest to have new owners who wipe out the debt and thereby enable the company to use its profit to improve its business. On the other hand its not necessarily in the shareholder's best interest to sell for £300m if there is an offer for a higher amount. Given that the club is days away from defaulting on its loan and that there are unlikely to be any serious buyers offering a higher price who can conclude the deal before the banking deadline, in my opinion Hicks and Gillette have a very poor chance of succeeding in arguing that its in the shareholders interest for a court to prevent the directors from concluding a sale. Reality Red

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06 Oct 2010 10:17:19
To the person who said. . All this nonesence about Purslow and Ian being removed from the board is all bulls* *. There all in on it. etc.

Can we all please stop this nonsense, I posted months ago that Martin Broughton, Christian Purslow and Ian Ayre were the quality of directors we had needed for decades and yet we continually knocked them for their efforts as the conducted their business in a private professional manner. Now that Hicks and Gillets backs are to the wall and they are desperately going back on their agreements and trying to remove two to the directors there seem to be some so called fans out there who still don't get it. There comes a time that we must trust again and stand with the directors as they try and save the club.

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06 Oct 2010 09:53:22
Ed how is john w henry paying for the club, he doesn't have the wealth to buy the club outright. Is it in the form of other part owners like Arsenal or another leverage buy out. The Liverpool Red Sox's, sounds weird. {ed's note - I don't currently have access to those kind of details mate. But the board did say that a leveraged buyout was out of the question, so I am hopeful that they are as good as their word.}

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06 Oct 2010 09:52:39
All this nonesence about Purslow and Ian being removed from the board is all bulls* *. There all in on it. It was all made up in the baord room so that that we LFC fans think/ believe that Purslow/ Ian are trying trying to oust H$G and so that the sale of the club can go through to another American. The point is that that H$G were willing to sell to the Red sox owner, and this makes Purslow/ Ian look good in our eyes. Think about it

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06 Oct 2010 09:46:18
To Blair Mayne and the Ed. Hicks & Gillette have not been in control of the club's board for several months. The Company's articles of association (which are the rules by which the company manages its affairs) provide that a director cannot be removed without the consent of the Company's chairman. When Hicks and Gillette had their own man as chairman this was not an issue as notwithstanding this provision in the Company's articles there was a shareholders agreement between Hicks and Gillette (i.e. a contractual agreement between them) affording them equal representation on the board. However RBS is not a party to the shareholders agreement and once Broughton the bank's appointee was made chairman (this was a condition of RBS extending the loan period in April by 6 months) Hicks and Gillette lost the ability to appoint and remove directors without Broughton's approval. This was crucial in enabling Broughton and the board to sell the club. The best bit about this is that we are rid of these parasites and they have not made a profit. KARMA. Hicks and Gillette are mounting a legal challenge which is why the sale is conditional. This is likely to be on the basis that directors have a duty under the 2006 Company's Act to act in the best interest of the company and its shareholders. Hicks and or Gillette could argue that they have failed to discharge their duty to the shareholders by accepting a low price. However seeing as there has been a lengthy sales process and there is a danger of imminent administration Hicks and Gillette will find it hard to succeed with such an argument. Proceedings are however a nuisance in that they prevent the sale concluding until the legal dispute runs its course. I just hope this is resolved by the January transfer window. Reality Red

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06 Oct 2010 09:35:36
Ed why do u think is hicks dragging this matter to court as because even if he wins and succeds in altering the board he will still have to pay the loans to rbs by 15. If he fails to do that he would lose a huge amount than he is losing presently? also ard purslow and ayre really suspended or what? and finally can u tell me anything about the people who have submitted the bids? {ed's note - Hicks is greedy, he still thinks he can get more money for his half of the club. He believes he can get refinancing if he can use the club as collateral, the current board will not allow that, so he needs to change the board. Purslow and Ayres are fighting their dismissal through every available channel, keep an eye on the courts! I really don't know anything about the people who have submitted the bids, I just hope they are an improvement on the current owners.}

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06 Oct 2010 09:20:28
Doesn't the premier league need 10 days notice of a takeover?

wouldn't that take us to the 16th- one day after the repayment deadline?

any ideas?

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06 Oct 2010 09:18:12
To Scouse Brown.

In response to:
"This is the number for the boston redsox front desk, they will put you through to an operator ask to speak to either john henry or thomas werner its shut now but unsure of time difference, im gunna pretend im a uk journalist and see if i can get put through to the press office in the morning and see if there is any truth- -001- 617-* * * *
good luck fellow reds"

Yeah, that's right - bombard them with phone calls and you never know, they might pull out becuase fanatics like you scare them off, and we'll be stuck with Dumb & Dumberer!

Please hit believeable if you think this was a moronic idea as well?!. .

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06 Oct 2010 09:03:15
I'm assuming that timing of these boardroom shenangians is in advance of the RBS date? Would RBS be in a position to force the sale through should our beloved owners fail to pay in time? I'm thinking it could render any legal nonsense moot as RBS will effectivley own the club at that stage anyway ( and why wouldn't they exercise their muscle once the Sale sees their debt repaid? ). Ed? {ed's note - as far as I can find out RBS are already in a position to force through the sale, that is why the rest of the board are able to outvote H&G. I don't believe H&G can legally stop the sale now, unless they can prove some kind of malpractice, or other legal issue, with the sale.}

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06 Oct 2010 08:56:47
Ed/ Anyone. If the current yanks default on their payments to RBS on or around October 16th will it matter if hicks and gillett dig their heels in about the proposed sale or will RBS tell them to p*ss off? And the deal will go through or can they throw yet more legal paperwork to hold up the deal.

Surely New England Sports Ventures (NESV) would be willing to wait a week orso to get rid of these 2 cancers

RedDan {ed's note - according to everything I was told at the time Broughton was appointed, H&G had been forced into terms that involved the sale of the club or full repayment of the debt. I don't believe them to really have a leg to stand on, they accepted the terms and they now have to abide by them. I fully expect Hicks to take the fight through the courts but I also expect him to lose, eventually.}

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06 Oct 2010 08:56:24
Liverpool Football Club today announces that the Board has agreed the sale of the Club to New England Sports Ventures (NESV).

New England Sports Ventures currently owns a portfolio of companies including the Boston Red Sox, New England Sports Network, Fenway Sports Group and Roush Fenway Racing.

Martin Broughton, Liverpool FC Chairman, said:

"I am delighted that we have been able to successfully conclude the sale process which has been thorough and extensive. The Board decided to accept NESV's proposal on the basis that it best met the criteria we set out originally for a suitable new owner. NESV's philosophy is all about winning and they have fully demonstrated that at Red Sox.

"We've met them in Boston, London and Liverpool over several weeks and I am immensely impressed with what they have achieved and with their vision for Liverpool Football Club.

"By removing the burden of acquisition debt, this offer allows us to focus on investment in the team. I am only disappointed that the owners have tried everything to prevent the deal from happening and that we need to go through legal proceedings in order to complete the sale."

I don't think Broughton would have announced this unless he was sure they would win the "legal proceedings"

also, when the loan was refinanced, I'm sure there were "conditions" to it so don't worry I'm sure Hicks is now powerless.

YNWA! built by shanks, broke by yanks, built by other yanks!

I think we should make a bid for rooney in january just to piss of fergie (even though it will never happen)

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06 Oct 2010 08:26:13
Boston red sox owners have just takin over d pool is iy good or bad mr ed? {ed's note - I don't know mate, I don't know what their plans are for the future, but I have faith in Purslow and Ayres to make the decision they truly believe is right for the club.}

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06 Oct 2010 08:15:09
Hi Ed, would you be kind enough to do a quick search through your archives and reveal tha name of the person who first posted that the owners of the Boston Red Sox was to be the winning bidder?
Clearly, that poster will be the one we all watch in future and believe without reservation. . .
(That is posted the rumour before it was on the BBC web site). {ed's note - I don't believe anyone genuinely could know which bid would be accepted as the board itself didn't know till yesterday. It is like anyone claiming they knew where Joe Cole was going before he made the decision, not even he knew where he would be going until just before he joined us.}

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06 Oct 2010 08:00:00
Do we get a new ground?

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06 Oct 2010 07:48:46
Hicks will go to the courts it's not over yet

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06 Oct 2010 07:48:44
"will put you through to an operator ask to speak to either john henry or thomas werner its shut now but unsure of time difference, im gunna pretend im a uk journalist and see if i can get put through to the press office in the morning and see if there is any truth"

Yeah, that'll work - 20,000 scousers phoning the red-sox's pretentding to be journalists. I'm thinking of buying a crown and pretending to be the queen, flying over there and demanding the truth or 'their heads will roll!'

Listen to yourself.

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06 Oct 2010 07:45:32
Liverpool has new owners. . . . . i don't know much about them so could someone shed some light on them for me please.Are they the type of owners to spend money on new players?

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06 Oct 2010 07:37:05
Sold to boston red sox just a few details to sort out

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06 Oct 2010 07:30:01
SOLD! ! ! !


Liverpool Football Club today announces that the Board has agreed the sale of the Club to New England Sports Ventures (NESV).

New England Sports Ventures currently owns a portfolio of companies including the Boston Red Sox, New England Sports Network, Fenway Sports Group and Rousch Fenway Racing.

Martin Broughton, Liverpool FC Chairman, said:

"I am delighted that we have been able to successfully conclude the sale process which has been thorough and extensive. The Board decided to accept NESV's proposal on the basis that it best met the criteria we set out originally for a suitable new owner. NESV's philosophy is all about winning and they have fully demonstrated that at Red Sox.

"We've met them in Boston, London and Liverpool over several weeks and I am immensely impressed with what they have achieved and with their vision for Liverpool Football Club.

"By removing the burden of acquisition debt, this offer allows us to focus on investment in the team. I am only disappointed that the owners have tried everything to prevent the deal from happening and that we need to go through legal proceedings in order to complete the sale."

Note to editors:

The sale is conditional on Premier League approval, resolution of the dispute concerning Board membership and other matters. Dodge

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06 Oct 2010 07:22:32
Sky says we've been sold to the red socks fella, although h&g are not going to go quietly. hope things are better this time around if true. . but another american?

mauired

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06 Oct 2010 07:21:25
According to Radio city, liverpoll have agreed a dEal to sell the club to the consortium behind the BOSTON RED SOX. Broughton said they have met numerous times and they are very satisfied with there vision for the club, however they now have to go through legal proceedings as the tw*ts are trying to block it! !

Also on the lfc website apparently( AS OF 7.20AM)

Spaceman

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06 Oct 2010 07:20:40
Its official! its breaking news on the official liverpool website, the sale has been agreed with the owners of the red sox!
they are gone at last! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

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06 Oct 2010 07:19:31
Lfc SOLD
CHECK SITE FOR STATEMENT VERY SHORTLY

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06 Oct 2010 01:26:06
I've spoken to my brother's girlfriend (who is in her 4th year studying business law at uni) and she says that it sounds like Hicks has no chance of installing his own board members unless he has legitimate reason to remove Purslow and Ayres. Assuming that the only reason Hicks has is that he doesn't want to sell, she said that the case probably wouldn't even make it to court before it's resolved (although, knowing Hicks he'll go all the way).
She also said that if the offers were accepted before Hicks attempted this, they will be on hold until the situation with the board members was resolved. If new board members were instated, a new vote would be held.

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06 Oct 2010 01:08:11
Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - he is just incredibly greedy, he caused as many problems in the sale of a sports franchise in the US - he had to be forcibly removed from the sales process in the end.}
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That's my point ED IF he defaults then RBS will have no choice but to remove him from the equation.

One last question ED. Can RBS still call in the loans today? As that was the original repayment date or are they happy to let it go untill the 15th and recieve the extra 60 mill in pelanty fee's which is being reported at a risk of losing money IF they default?

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - I don't know the exact terms of the loan mate, I doubt they can go back on any agreement to extend a deadline though.}

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06 Oct 2010 01:08:09
How can I contact Broughton?
RHI

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06 Oct 2010 01:06:27
Is it possible for a judge to freeze the date RBS take control while hicks has his day in court to remove purslow. I figure, he might be playing for time

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06 Oct 2010 01:04:22
Ed what do u think what will happen now {ed's note - I expect H&G to lose the fight and the club, but I think Hicks will drag it through the courts.}

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06 Oct 2010 00:52:28
Why have they gone public with this?
Any idea Ed? {ed's note - because Hicks can't win a public battle, behind closed doors he has a chance because a lot of people mislike and distrust Purslow, Broughton and Ayres. By making it public exactly what is happening they have got everyone squarely on their side and it makes the battle far easier to win. Hicks is one man, Purslow, Broughton and Ayres have just got themselves millions of backers in one fell swoop. That is how it seems to me anyway.}

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06 Oct 2010 00:51:11
Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - obviously he must be voting against Hicks, or why would he need two more people on the board? At the very least he is abstaining, he certainly can't be on Hicks' side, and it is noticeable that the two replacements lined up are lackeys of Hicks. I had heard the bids had been accepted and was excitedly texting all my mates about it when it all kicked off. I never expected it to go to this, normally this kind of stuff all happens behind closed doors and it is days before we hear about it. I am still not sure what happens now, those bids have been accepted by a majority vote, I just don't know enough about business law to know what power Hicks will have to stop a sale going through. Obviously not much or he wouldn't be resorting to illegal strong arm tactics to remove board members. . .}
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The good thing is ED that he TRIED to remove Purslow and Ayre and failed for the time being. So it could be more difficult IF they default on the loans.

Sign's of a desperate man i hope.

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - he is just incredibly greedy, he caused as many problems in the sale of a sports franchise in the US - he had to be forcibly removed from the sales process in the end.}

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06 Oct 2010 00:50:35
This is the number for the boston redsox front desk, they will put you through to an operator ask to speak to either john henry or thomas werner its shut now but unsure of time difference, im gunna pretend im a uk journalist and see if i can get put through to the press office in the morning and see if there is any truth- -001- 617-226-6000
good luck fellow reds
scouse brown

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06 Oct 2010 00:44:05
Just found this on click liverpool it sounds like hicks is losing on his battle maybe ed amy thoughts on this and what is going on?


Liverpool's board of directors are currently deliberating over two potential takeover bids, it has emerged.

An emergency meeting was called earlier today during which chairman Martin Broughton, commercial director Ian Ayre and managing director Christian Purslow discussed the offers from Asia and the United States to buy George Gillett and Tom Hicks' stake in the club.

Little is known of the two investors but the American bidder is believed to be John William Henry II, co-owner of the Boston Red Sox baseball team, and either deal is expected to ensure that Liverpool will be sold without the hefty profit Hicks and Gillett had desperately sought.

The duo are understood to be fiercely opposing the plans and are expected to issue a legal challenge but appear to be running out of options in their bid to maintain control of the club, which they have held since 2007, with next Friday's Royal Bank of Scotland deadline looming.

Meanwhile under-fire Roy Hodgson has responded to criticism following Liverpool's worst start to a new season in over 57 years by insisting that he is no worse a manager than he was prior to taking the reins at Anfield.

Sunday's home defeat to Blackpool has left the 63-year-old facing an uphill battle with the club languishing in the bottom three of the Barclays Premier League, but he maintains that he has not lost faith in his abilities at the highest level.

He said: "I don't think you go from being as feted as I was in May to losing any ability three months later.

"I know the question is going to get asked but it shouldn't really be asked by people who have been in football a long time, because we all know in football you have good and bad moments.

"At the end of May I was having a fantastic moment and here at the beginning of October I'm having bad moments. But I don't think I have suddenly changed or lost any ability which has served me so well in 35 years of coaching {ed's note - as I understand it, the board discussed and were agreed that the offers on the table were acceptable and a majority wanted to take the offers. So Hicks threw his toys out of his pram and tried to remove Purslow and Ayres from the board and replace them with lackeys to regain the majority. Now it comes down to legalities, apparently he has no legal power to just remove people without the backing of the chairman. Broughton has put himself squarely in the Ayres/Purslow camp by refusing to remove either and that should mean Hicks hasn't a leg to stand on. I am very sure he will not let it lie though, his actions during the recent sale of the (I think) Texas Rangers led to the MLB removing him from the process and forcing through a sale, apparently.}

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06 Oct 2010 00:39:31
Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - just one thing, this is nothing to do with Gillett, hence the need for Hicks to get two people on the board, then he will be able to outvote Gillett who wants to sell.}
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So why dosn't Gillett vote against Hicks with the rest of the board ED?

I know he would want more money but he seems to be under more financial pressure than Hicks to sell up asap. IF they default then they will surely be in more trouble than they are now?

Hopefully you've heard some good news today mate?

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - obviously he must be voting against Hicks, or why would he need two more people on the board? At the very least he is abstaining, he certainly can't be on Hicks' side, and it is noticeable that the two replacements lined up are lackeys of Hicks. I had heard the bids had been accepted and was excitedly texting all my mates about it when it all kicked off. I never expected it to go to this, normally this kind of stuff all happens behind closed doors and it is days before we hear about it. I am still not sure what happens now, those bids have been accepted by a majority vote, I just don't know enough about business law to know what power Hicks will have to stop a sale going through. Obviously not much or he wouldn't be resorting to illegal strong arm tactics to remove board members.....}

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06 Oct 2010 00:27:07
My issue with the potential legal dispute/ blocking moves by Hicks is whether this will delay the sale beyond the 15th Oct. If that happens, surely the £60m penalty will be levied by RBS. That means at least TWO Torres equivalents denied to the club and this sum would have to be either directly or indirectly paid by the new owners. (Unless someone knows otherwise)

The trouble is, I can't see Hicks backing down. He has had 30+ years of financing deals based on leveraged buyouts, so he is a hard nosed SOB. He has no conscience and probably thinks he has nothing to lose.

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06 Oct 2010 00:24:25
In answer to this-

05 Oct 2010 23:57:05
Sky news (breaking news) 2 good bid on the table, owner of the boston red sox is 1.

Any1 know anything about him? Wealth etc?

Emlyn. . Irish red

i just googled it and to save me postin it all google these names together- John Henry and Thomas Werner


scouse brown

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06 Oct 2010 00:24:08
This is what is going to happen in the next few days/ weeks.

A legal process is now underway to stop Hicks and Gillett bringing two of Hicks' people onto the board (son Mack and business associate Lori Kay McCutheon) amid suggestions that Purslow and Ayre have been suspended but not in a way they believe to be legally valid.

The key arguments to be won and lost, and developments to watch for in the coming days are:

.Liverpool's chairman Martin Broughton, along with Purslow and Ayre, believe Hicks and Gillett have no legal right under the Companies Act to remove Purslow and Ayre.
.If Broughton-Purslow-Ayre win this legal skirmish - and their lawyers believe they can - then the trio will remain on the board and should be able to vote 3-2 against Hicks and Gillett in favour of one of the two bidders. In that scenario, the end is nigh for the Americans, perhaps to be replaced by other Americans.
.If Broughton-Purlsow-Ayre lose the legal battle for their places on the board, Hicks and Gillett will install two of their own directors, Hicks Jnr and McCutcheon, guaranteeing the Americans a 4-1 majority in any vote on any board matter, including the sale of the club.
.If the board changes in the Americans' favour, the fate of Liverpool will fall into the hands of RBS. The Americans loans are due to be repaid by 15 October. If they can't pay, RBS has to decide whether to "roll over" the debt (ie: extend the time for repayment), or call in the loans.
.RBS will be loathe to give Hicks and Gillett more time. If RBS calls in the loans and Hicks and Gillett cannot pay, then the Americans shares become worthless and RBS will take over. It is presumed the bank would then sell quickly to one of the two bidders now in the frame.
.The only scenario where the endgame isn't nigh is if Hicks and Gillett succeed in ousting two board members, then find a lender to re-finance them. Twice already, Liverpool's board has blocked refinancing. With the board altered, a hurdle would be cleared, but finding a lender won't be easy.

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - just one thing, this is nothing to do with Gillett, hence the need for Hicks to get two people on the board, then he will be able to outvote Gillett who wants to sell.}

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06 Oct 2010 00:21:13
Just posted the bullet points from a statement by H&G
cannot believe theese 2 greedy b* * * S they are holding out for more money RBS should do what they would to you and me and reposses the club so a sale can go through NOW

bigg2966

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06 Oct 2010 00:18:38
Hicks and gillett just released a statment on sky sports news, i only got the end of it, has anyone else heard it?

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06 Oct 2010 00:17:21
New statement from hicks and gillette on ssn
they say the bids seriously undervalue the club. . in other words they want more money the 3 board members said yes hicks and gillete said no
h&g say they are still trying to sell the club

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06 Oct 2010 00:17:00
Just copied this off skysports how true it is i dnt know, if its true then the snidey yanks look like they are gonna play dirty with us now, have a read-

Liverpool's shambolic season hit a new low on Tuesday night as owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett blocked the sale of the club and attempted to remove two key members of their own board.

Two new bids for the Anfield outfit were tabled earlier in the day, both of which have been described as 'excellent' by the Premier League club.

Liverpool's board were due to meet to discuss the offers and give the green light for a change of ownership, with both prospective buyers promising to pay off the club's £282million debts.

But in an astonishing move from American duo Hicks and Gillett, they turned down the chance of a sale and have now attempted to remove managing director Christian Purslow and commercial director Ian Ayre from the decision-making process.
Excellent

A statement on the club's official website read: "The board of directors have received two excellent financial offers to buy the club that would repay all its long-term debt.

"A board meeting was called today to review these bids and approve a sale.

"Shortly prior to the meeting, the owners - Tom Hicks and George Gillett - sought to remove managing director Christian Purslow and commercial director Ian Ayre from the board, seeking to replace them with Mack Hicks and Lori Kay McCutcheon.

"This matter is now subject to legal review and a further announcement will be made in due course.

"Meanwhile Martin Broughton, Christian Purslow and Ian Ayre continue to explore every possible route to achieving a sale of the club at the earliest opportunity."

Red Sox

Sky Sports News understands that one of the offers has come from the owners of the Boston Red Sox baseball team, while the other is from a Far East consortium.

Hicks and Gillett are seeking a figure in the region of £600million but need to find a buyer before 15th October to repay their £282million loans to the Royal Bank of Scotland and Wachovia.

If they are unsuccessful then RBS are poised to take control of Liverpool, the asset against which the loans are secured, and sell the club themselves to recoup their cash.

The American duo have become increasingly unpopular with Anfield supporters, who blame their on-field woes on the behind-the-scenes bickering which exploded further on Tuesday evening.

New manager Roy Hodgson was appointed in the summer following the departure of Rafa Benitez but has come under fire himself after the Carling Cup humiliation at the hands of Northampton and Sunday's dismal home defeat by Blackpool.

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06 Oct 2010 00:08:23
The Company Articles for The Liverpool Football Club and Athletic Grounds Limited set out the rules for the removal of directors in clauses 81 and 83.

Clause 83 gives a list of valid reasons for the removal of a director, such as being disqualified by law, mental illness etc, none of which apply is this instance.

Therefore a Director can only be removed in accordance with clause 81, which states "Any appointment or removal shall be made in writing and signed by the then current Chairman"

It would seem then that Hicks and Gillett can't get rid of Purslow and Ayre without Broughtons permission, which given this statement clearly hasn't been given.

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06 Oct 2010 00:04:33
Well now it's oct 6th. the first date mention arent h&g due to pay 60mil today? 60 mil reason for rbs to push through a sale. ynwa

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06 Oct 2010 00:04:07
To the person who said "'Another party is believed to be based in the United States and according to KOPTALK sources, this is why the board flew to the States recently, to try and keep them in the mix after they expressed a concern about the ongoing fan protests."

F. k any potential custodians who express concern about ongoing fan protest. It just shows that they are not who we need! !
RHI

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06 Oct 2010 00:03:02
This whole board/ sale thing is really weird. When you think about it the board makes the recommendation to accept the bid but isn't it the owner's who ultimately have to approve this bid or reject it? However, it is the board the directs the day to day operations of the team.

So right now the owners don't control the board so they don't control the day to day operations or any refinancing plans but they do have the final say over whether to accept the bids. Also, they have to pay the bills and yet they don't have the authority to hire/ fire anyone. Would you own a company and not have that final say?

So as Kirdi says "Once everyone is united and there's logic in the price and the overall deal, me and my group will be prepared to return to the table."

So I ask you, if you were Hicks and Gillett would you accept a deal that would make you no money or try to take control of the board back to control the sale process in a fashion that would make you money? Answer this honestly not out of hate and you will see why they are doing what they are doing. I too want to see them gone but until everyone is playing nicely or the bank gets the loan defaulted nothing will get done.

Big boys, big toys - lots of posturing and chest pumping when they face you and crying when they turn around.

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06 Oct 2010 00:02:48
It has to be the last roll of the dice for the greedy yanks. Firstly the fact that the info has been given to the media that they are the only peeople want wanting to sell the club and clear all debt but most inportantly is that it is an official statement on the official LFC TV website which the yanks own. How can they oust 2 directors when they can't even stop a statement like that been made on their own website.
The end is near my friends the end is near.
YNWA.
Also the odds on MON to get the managers position pre Jan window has been slashed in the bookies.

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05 Oct 2010 23:57:05
Sky news (breaking news) 2 good bid on the table, owner of the boston red sox is 1.

Any1 know anything about him? Wealth etc?

Emlyn. . Irish red

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05 Oct 2010 23:53:50
To Purslow and Ayre
we liverpool fans apologise for any misunderstandings on our part that may have suggested you were just the greedy yanks puppets.
we now see that you have had our clubs best interests at heart and are fighting to push through a deal that will rid this great club of this cancer.
we only hope you succeed in your efforts and that you will be given the full support of all liverpool fans around the world and one day you will be remembered as heroes who helped save our club and should be held in very high esteem along with all our great heroes Shanks, Paisley, Kenny etc, etc as your input at this time might just be as important as all those great managers and players who have graced our club.

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I may be dreaming here fellas, but the paranoia that has engulfed our beloved club appears to have been lifted. An official club announcement proving (maybe?) the honesty and integrity of Broughton, Purslow and Ayre. . . Hicks trying to replace the very men he installed to sell the club with his own "puppets". .

Do I see light at the end of the tunnel gentlemen?

The Booter

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