Liverpool Rumours Archive October 05 2010

 

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05 Oct 2010 23:53:01
'Another party is believed to be based in the United States and according to KOPTALK sources, this is why the board flew to the States recently, to try and keep them in the mix after they expressed a concern about the ongoing fan protests.'

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05 Oct 2010 23:38:57
To Blair Mayne YNWAHong Kong is part of china now u know. SMF
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What's your point SMF?

Blair Mayne YNWA

point being it was all over the press a couple of weeks ago that hong kong were the leading bid. .remember everyone guessing on the kwok family
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Nice one SMF i remember now mate.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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05 Oct 2010 23:38:54
To Purslow and Ayre
we liverpool fans apologise for any misunderstandings on our part that may have suggested you were just the greedy yanks puppets.
we now see that you have had our clubs best interests at heart and are fighting to push through a deal that will rid this great club of this cancer.
we only hope you succeed in your efforts and that you will be given the full support of all liverpool fans around the world and one day you will be remembered as heroes who helped save our club and should be held in very high esteem along with all our great heroes Shanks, Paisley, Kenny etc, etc as your input at this time might just be as important as all those great managers and players who have graced our club

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05 Oct 2010 23:36:27
WTF! WE HAVE BEEN SEEN OFF

Juventus offer LIVERPOOL 11.5M euros for AQUILANI.

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05 Oct 2010 23:36:15
Shame on all of you who have questioned Purslow's commitment to the club.

He has the guts to take on those two bas&%£$s

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05 Oct 2010 23:32:41
To the person who wrote "Look at the lfc website it confirms that H & G are trying to change the board to reject 2 good offers - end game is near - this feels like a desperate last roll of the dice and then we are rid of them."

How do you know they are 2 good offers? Firstly, there was no mention of a stadium, secondly - one of the offers, supposedly from another struggling yank, who wasn't that rich even before he started to struggle. Look him up on Wikipedia. .
RHI

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05 Oct 2010 23:32:08
The news that Hicks & Gillett have tried to remove Purslow & Ayre from the Board and replace them with puppets proves them to be devious, deceitful and morally corrupt. People are asking what we can do to help our club and it seems right that we should all fire off as many emails as possible to as many large International companies as we can. Tell the business world that Hicks & Gillett have proved beyond all doubt they are not fit to be trusted in business and ask the International business community to cease all dealings with this pair of corrupt Americans. Shame them in their own country and ask the American people "Is this the way you want the American nation to be portrayed in the business world?". This pair have proved they have the capacity to do enormous damage to the image of the American people and International American trade with their disgraceful behaviour.
Lets tell the World about these two.

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05 Oct 2010 23:25:49
Dear Lee,
In response to your drivel.

(Hi my name is lee

i posted comment on saturday about liverpool had been takenover.i was disbelieved by ALOT of people and someone was doubting my comment by writing about them. i think more belief should be taken into this page, i understand people don't believe things you say because of other people making up sh*t and i think common sense should be taken it consideration by some people. after looking a sky news this is the start of it and myself i think a press conference will be called tomorow or thursday that the club has been sold. i think people should listen to my comment what i make in future and should not just doubt everything i say because i can find out inside information before anyone public. . you should start clicking the BELIEVE button in future not the DISBELIEVE.)

you have contradicted yourself in the first line by stating you posted on Saturday that we had been taken over and then proceed to make out you are this man in the know. We havent been taken over, there are two bids on the table and the yanks are trying to get rid of 2 of the board members so they can block the possible sale. Look Lee people have been posting for ages that we are probably gonna be taken over soon, it doesn't take a genius to work that out, so unless you have some real inside knowledge which i don't think you do, why not just write things in hope rather than trying to make out you are some kind of bigshot.

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05 Oct 2010 23:25:29
Hi All! !

No doubt the last hour and a half have been extremely exciting and quite overwhelming with alot of information coming out regarding the sale of the club, prospective new owners, boardroom politics and clinching a deal.

Please if you could answer some of my questions it would be much appreciated and im sure many fans have the same concerns.

(Lee, I agree that you have been very insightful regarding the current proceedings and lets just hope the ebst resolution come sout of this)

Firstly: Does anybody know anything more than 'Wikipedia' about John Henry? Whats his track redord like with sport franchises?
Also this Far Eastern Consortium. . ? Any Idea who they could be? Kenny Huang?

Secondly: Can H&G really remove Purslow & Ayre and replace with their own puppets? Or will they directly be challenging RBS as I believe RBS had some say in their appointments. Also by inputting Hicks Son and this other Woman as non-owner board members, clearly they can't have precedence in taking over Purslow and Ayre as they are exactly the same. . non-owner board members!

Thirdly: What are everyone'sthoughts on the current proceedings?

Thankyou very much for reading. Any further insight would be very much appreciated.

*Anfield Faithful*

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05 Oct 2010 23:23:16
I said when we found out that the rest of the board blocked H&G's refinancing plans in June. IF they couldn't sack them then how can they sack them now?

Hopefully they can't!

Blair Mayne YNWA

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05 Oct 2010 23:22:20
Tariqpanja

Hearing New England Sports Venture deal for #LFC accepted by the board. Owners trying to block it. Possibility of another statement tonight

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05 Oct 2010 23:21:54
From the Boston Red Sox website

2009 . . "was another successful regular season during the regime of general manager Theo Epstein, as the Red Sox qualified for the postseason for the sixth time in seven years."

The Red Sox have won the world series twice since John Henry took over ownership in 2000.

Despite the experience over the last 3 years, not all Yanks investing in sporting franchises are tossers.

Grayswood

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05 Oct 2010 23:20:44
To Blair Mayne YNWAHong Kong is part of china now u know. SMF
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What's your point SMF?

Blair Mayne YNWA

point being it was all over the press a couple of weeks ago that hong kong were the leading bid. .remember everyone guessing on the kwok family

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05 Oct 2010 23:19:37
Surely broughton has a set contract for selling the club and h&G have no chance of getting rid of him! They would never win a court case let alone afford a court case that big! Im sure when he was brought to the club with the rest of the board members there would have had some leagel terms in the contract that agrees the majority vote decides who the club is sold too? Help me out ed or someone what were the terms agreed when the new board were put in place
RedRodge {ed's note - I am sure that the terms of the loan extension they got involved them agreeing to sell. But Hicks is too stubborn to just walk away, he had to be forced to sell one of his American sports franchises recently. He fought that sale all the way too.}

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05 Oct 2010 23:19:18
(AP) LONDON (AP) - A person familiar with the situation says Liverpool has received two new takeover bids that are being blocked by the American owners.

The person, speaking Tuesday on condition of anonymity because negotiations are ongoing, says one bid is from the U.S. and the other from Asia.

Sky Sports News is reporting that the owners of the Boston Red Sox are one of the bidders.

Liverpool has an Oct. 15 deadline to repay debts of about 285 million pounds ($453 million) resulting from the 2007 takeover by Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr.

The person says Hicks and Gillett won't accept either bid because they would not gain a profit on what they paid. Other board members are ready to accept one of the bids. Ed, can't the board go through with the sale if they want becasue they out number the owners? ? {ed's note - that is how I understood it, but I am sure that Hicks will take recourse to legal action to block a sale anyway.}

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05 Oct 2010 23:18:35
Board have received 2 "excellent offers which will repay the clubs long term debt" yet the Yanks seek to remove Purslow and Ayre.! Is that the behaviour of people who are trying to sell the club? I hope Martin Broughton really is the man we are led to believe and stands up to these bullies. The clock ticks. . lets hope Mr Broughton goes down in Liverpool folklore because if we get the outcome that we all want, we owe the man a huge debt of gratitude for preserving our club! !

Dickie Di Doh

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05 Oct 2010 23:18:30
ED do you think with the Offical statement from the club saying how H&G are trying to remove Purslow and Ayre has some sugniffigance?

As surely they wouldn't have give the go ahead for this statement. Does this show how little power H&G have within the club at the momment?

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - Purslow is in charge of the day to day running of the club, this is him letting us know exactly what is happening.}

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05 Oct 2010 23:17:28
Dan roan ow said rbs not going to budge sale may be forced through against h&g wishes they have lots of power now! YNWA. END IN SIGHT WE HOPE.

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05 Oct 2010 23:16:15
Look at the lfc website it confirms that H & G are trying to change the board to reject 2 good offers - end game is near - this feels like a desperate last roll of the dice and then we are rid of them.

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05 Oct 2010 23:14:59
Latest from SSN:
Liverpool's shambolic season hit a new low on Tuesday night as owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett blocked the sale of the club and attempted to remove two key members of their own board.

Two new bids for the Anfield outfit were tabled earlier in the day, both of which have been described as 'excellent' by the Premier League club.

Liverpool's board were due to meet to discuss the offers and give the green light for a change of ownership, with both prospective buyers promising to pay off the club's £282million debts.

But in an astonishing move from American duo Hicks and Gillett, they turned down the chance of a sale and have now attempted to remove managing director Christian Purslow and commercial director Ian Ayre from the decision-making process.

WTF! Are these as* * les for real! !

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05 Oct 2010 23:12:09
Yippee. . I was asked by the wife and kids what I wanted for my birthday (6th October). Never thought they would influence H&G but lo and behold whatever they said - its looking like its worked.

Double reason to celebrate. .

Come on you Reds - ynwa

RedTed

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05 Oct 2010 23:12:07
Just heard that they have managed to get purslow off the board. Just leave you Yank Cowboys you are not wanted at our club.

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05 Oct 2010 23:11:16
Night Ed and guys
Currently hicks and gillet are outnumbered and losing 2 to 3 for the sale.
I was just thinking why is hicks trying to replace 2 out of the 5 board nembers when he would only need 1 of them to change for the outcome to be against the sale.
Do ya think Maybe gillet has agreed to the sale
Harry5 {ed's note - I believe Gillett has been trying to force a sale through for a long time, he has grown to hate Hicks and wants nothing further to do with him.}

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05 Oct 2010 23:10:02
Liverpool's board will today meet to choose between two offers to buy the club - one from baseball's Boston Red Sox.

That could finally see an end to the crisis that has brought Anfield to its knees and put it on the verge of bankruptcy.

It is understood Liverpool's American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett are opposed to the two bids, which are both in the region of £300million, but the Mirror has learned the remaining three directors - the majority of the board - are ready to try to force through a sale.

Red Sox owners Tom Werner and John Henry are the men behind New England Sports Ventures, who have tabled one of the bids. It is believed the wealthy Al Kharafi family will do so too, having twice entering negotiations to buy out the financially-stricken US pair.

Liverpool's financers, RBS, gave Hicks and Gillett a mid-October deadline to repay loans in excess of £200million, but increasingly frantic efforts to secure alternative refinancing have failed so far.

If Hicks cannot come up with an alternative source of funds within the next seven days, then the prospect of a sale is high, with chairman Martin Broughton, MD Christian Purslow and Fianance Director Ian Ayre ready to accept one of the offers, even though both are considerably lower than the figure the Americans are prepared to accept.

The RBS have the power to take control of the sales process if Hicks can't find refinance, and it is understood they will take advice from the board and allow a sale to the bidder considered the 'best fit' for the football club, even if that is the lowest offer.

The board is expected to make an announcement tomorrow, and the news this morning will bring renewed hope for Liverpool fans, who are desperate to see the back of the Americans, and bring in new owners who will take the club forward by reducing debt and building a new stadium.

Those two criteria are understood to have been met by both offers, and a formal bid is expected within the next few days.

AjiED Your views? {ed's note - this is why no one could be sure what was going to happen mate. The bids don't give H&G any profit and they are going to fight to get one at all costs. Hopefully they will lose, because the alternative is a scary one.}

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05 Oct 2010 23:09:23
Taken from the official liverpool website:
Liverpool Football Club tonight issued the following press statement:

The Board of Directors have received two excellent financial offers to buy the Club that would repay all its long-term debt. A Board meeting was called today to review these bids and approve a sale. Shortly prior to the meeting, the owners - Tom Hicks and George Gillett - sought to remove Managing Director Christian Purslow and Commercial Director Ian Ayre from the Board, seeking to replace them with Mack Hicks and Lori Kay McCutcheon.

This matter is now subject to legal review and a further announcement will be made in due course.

Meanwhile Martin Broughton, Christian Purslow and Ian Ayre continue to explore every possible route to achieving a sale of the Club at the earliest opportunity.

one bid from a far east consortium and one from the owner of the boston redsox according to SSN.

Lets hope this is the last underhanded act from the yank scum and we are nearing the end of this debacle!

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05 Oct 2010 23:06:19
If the Yanks manage to hold on to the club I can see a riots throughout Liverpool.

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05 Oct 2010 23:04:00
It makes me angry to think the Yanks would sack Ayre and Purslow just to stop the sale going through. Face it you Yank scum your days at our club and numbered! !

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05 Oct 2010 23:01:44
I POSTED ON HERE 2 WEEKS AGO SAYING THAT KENNY HUANG WAS STILL IN THE BACK GROUND AND RECIEVED A FEW UNBELIEVABLES BELIEVE ME HE IS PART OF THE ASIN BID.
THESHANKLEYWAY

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05 Oct 2010 23:01:09
Am led to believe that the boston red sox have bought liverpool football club if its true i can't believe it thanks

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05 Oct 2010 23:00:53
5 live 11 news. .

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05 Oct 2010 23:00:17
To Blair Mayne YNWAHong Kong is part of china now u know. SMF
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What's your point SMF?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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05 Oct 2010 22:41:09
Just hearing on sky sports news updates from the going on at board level, they report that the two dirty, greedy scumbags are now trying to remove purslow and Ayre from the board and are going through legal procedures to do so and therefor block any potential sale,

ed what can be done, this cannot happen.

believable for hunting these two muppets down like the cowardly dogs they are.

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05 Oct 2010 22:08:54
Hi my name is lee

i posted comment on saturday about liverpool had been takenover.i was disbelieved by ALOT of people and someone was doubting my comment by writing about them. i think more belief should be taken into this page, i understand people don't believe things you say because of other people making up sh*t and i think common sense should be taken it consideration by some people. after looking a sky news this is the start of it and myself i think a press conference will be called tomorow or thursday that the club has been sold. i think people should listen to my comment what i make in future and should not just doubt everything i say because i can find out inside information before anyone public. . you should start clicking the BELIEVE button in future not the DISBELIEVE.

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05 Oct 2010 21:23:48
This is theturdz speaking
its moving fast bbc reports this as follows

Page last updated at 20:00 GMT, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 21:00 UK
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Liverpool's board receives two new bids to buy club

Gillett (left) and Hicks have come under pressure to sell from Liverpool fans


By Dan Roan
BBC sports news correspondent


Liverpool's board met on Tuesday after it received two new bids to buy the club, BBC Sport understands.

It is thought one of the bids is from Asia, with the other from America.

A source close to the negotiations said: "Both would significantly reduce the debt and give the current owners their original investment back."

But the club's co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett are understood to be opposing the sale of the Reds to either of the two parties.

Liverpool were put up for sale by American duo Hicks and Gillett in April with debts of £351.4m.

them b* tards still holding out for more f*cking leeches ed get this is on asap

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05 Oct 2010 21:22:26
Just read BBC Sport Breaking News. . . . Could get interesting . . .

Dirks Engine Room

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05 Oct 2010 21:21:18
Two bids on table Sky News . .1 Yank 1 Asian

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05 Oct 2010 21:19:52
Breaking News on Sky News

"Liverpool FC on brink of being sold after accepting two bids"

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05 Oct 2010 21:07:48
Americanos blue jeans and chinos. . .new yankee owners. .good or bad?

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05 Oct 2010 20:25:02
Liverpool are having a board meeting on Wednesday. No serious bidders on the table although RBS will take control of club. Also considering the future of Roy Hodgson.

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05 Oct 2010 20:10:53
Mike jefferies video is on you tube now. Watch "dear mr Hicks" and like.

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05 Oct 2010 20:09:49
Ed, do you think anything major will happen tmoz or anything minor?
and also what would be the best outcome to get rid of the yanks?
and finally what do you think will happen
west midlander red
popular poster on this site
YNWA {ed's note - something is happening, but I don't know whether it is a sale going through or just the bank readying itself to take the club out of H&G's hands.}

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05 Oct 2010 20:06:43
Just watched the video. . time to go. . taxi for Hicks. .
SMF

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05 Oct 2010 19:59:50
All will be fine, i say again, i have been told quote "everything is going well"

I really believe that to be the case, . I believe that the americans will not be given any refinancing from any institutions from around the world.

At the end of the storm there is a golden sky. .

Macca

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05 Oct 2010 19:56:35
Crisis meeting arranged for tomorrow?
Isn't their a large interest payment due to be paid
tomorrow?
Any gossip ED? {ed's note - all I have been told is that no one expects H&G to be around much longer.}

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05 Oct 2010 19:47:41
Just seen on sky sports kirdi has pulled out of running to buy club. Does this mean we have other new owners?

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05 Oct 2010 19:47:39
GERRARD, TORRES AND REINA STAYED FOR A REASON. NEW CUSTODIANS OF THE CLUB ARE ON THEIR WAY. WE MUST BE PATIENT. IT WILL HAPPEN SOONER OR LATER.

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Mukesh Ambarni
Stefan Perrson
Sheikh Mohammed
Kurahfi Family of Kuwait
Sharjahi billionnaires

Who does Keith Harris represent?

Keith Harris represents a company called ''ORVILLE''

PB LONDON RED SINCE 86

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05 Oct 2010 19:43:01
Re tours of anfield post - they appear to only be 10-2 all week (liverpoolfc.tv) so don't believe significant.

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05 Oct 2010 19:40:18
I reckon in the next few days a couple of sheeps eyes eating Arabs and chinese monkey brain eaters will enter the frame too.

They could eat babies, kittens and marmite. .for all i care , just buy the effin club. .SMF
by the way , do you know what goes in mackiedees?

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05 Oct 2010 19:39:55
9:58

CONSPIRACY THEORY. . . .

Liverpool have been playing crap on purpose to force a sale in October, and will turn on the style and fly into the Champs League places inside the next 2 months.

Imagine it - Chaps League final when they took over, bottom 3 when they sold up 3.5 years later. A fitting epotaph for the Yanks!

Could they have been asked to play as badly as they have to force a sale at a cheap price?! Its the only explanation I can think of!

Tounge in Cheek Red

You might not be far from truth mate player power is a powerful thing

andy m

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05 Oct 2010 19:38:24
05 Oct 2010 18:33:56

All I can say is that I usually find Sharkey one of the best contributors in this forum, while I can't say the same for Mayne. .
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Then the remedy you are looking for mate if you don't like my lies/ posts is don't read them.

Q. What's got 2 thumbs and dosn't give a toss?

A. Blair Mayne YNWA

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Blair Mayne steals jokes off scrubs. Well done.
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Of course i do i'm not that funny!

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. Great show.

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05 Oct 2010 19:37:19
Tours at LFC for tomorrow (Wednesday 6th October) and Thursday are only available from 10-2. Also, on friday only between 11 and 2. Expect a decision to be made, if not an announcement over the next 3 days.

Nextman

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05 Oct 2010 19:36:44
Still no sign of the viral protest video on Youtube, I am sure it was reported it would be posted today. Heard anything ed?
el_kopite {ed's note - I haven't heard anything about that to be honest, I don't think I am quite high enough up the celeb list to be in the loop....}

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05 Oct 2010 19:32:51
Talksport 7-10pm tonight looking at the situation at Liverpool. More nasty anti Liverpool bile. More wallowing in our misery. Cheap shots.
Apparently we haven't been a big club for 20 years. No PL title yes but One European cup 05, Another final 07 (consistently in Champions league for 10 yrs) , Uefa Cup 2001, FA cup 1992, 2001, 2006, League Cup 1995, 2001, consistently in top four and giving England some of their greatest players of the past 20 years (Mcmaneman, Redknapp, Owen, Fowler, Carragher, James and Gerrard).
Still not bad for a 'small club' is it Talksport.
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Oh God! Tony Evans of The Times is on as well.

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not to mention "Professor" Tom Cannon, the mega blue nose is on soon >.

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05 Oct 2010 19:27:55
Dan Roan on Twitter. . 1 hour ago

"Have it on good authority RBS will NOT refinance Hicks&Gillett-so LFC are about 2 become state-owned unless TH finds £ elsewhere-we'll see"

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05 Oct 2010 19:22:33
Rumour has it we need a striker to partner torres might i suggest we allready have one in milan jovanavic he looks strong and the way he took his goal against northampton made him look a very good striker he has an impresive record as well 69 goals in 153 apperances for standard liege was belgium player of the year 2008 and golden boot winner in 2009 with 16 goals in 29 apperances.

anybody agree

andy m

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05 Oct 2010 19:22:07
Have it from a very good source (youth player) that the reason Shelvey is not featuring for the 1st team is solely down to a major attitude problem.

When he was signed, he was built up as the next Gerrard and, apparently, he has started to believe his own press a little too much.

Hodgson rates him extremely highly and had been tracking him when he was a Fulham, but is disgusted with his attitude to the point that he has told him if it does not improve, he will be sold in January

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05 Oct 2010 18:35:12
I would have loved to have seen Van Der Vaart in a red shirt. He's doing the business for Spurs and only cost the same as Poulson. As for future players, maybe a bid for Adebayor? He can score goals and could be a bargain due to his lack of games recently.

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05 Oct 2010 18:29:18
05 Oct 2010 18:18:50
Dan Roan reporting RBS will NOT refinance
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It's all going to happen in the next few days.

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05 Oct 2010 18:26:27
Tours of Anfield tomorrow only at 10-2. Could this be an announcement of some sort? Here's hoping.

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05 Oct 2010 18:25:12
Emergency board meeting tomorrow? Anyone else hearing that or is it just more bull s. t! !

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05 Oct 2010 18:18:50
Dan Roan reporting RBS will NOT refinance

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05 Oct 2010 18:12:12
Hey I juust found this rumour about this stefan persson but it was from july of this year what do you think of all this just rubbish or does it have legs? ?

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05 Oct 2010 17:30:08
05 Oct 2010 17:00:26
Stefan Perrson seems clean unlike some of the other 'names.'
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Sensible businessman not mired in controversy. No problems with human rights, political implications etc.

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05 Oct 2010 17:18:36
Martin Broughton to resign thurs. Either sold or hicks has won

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05 Oct 2010 17:15:56
05 Oct 2010 17:06:57

Hey not a rumour but just wanted to say I like everyone else is gutted about our team's plight I just really hope that something is done very soon so we can all move on and hopefully return to beter days.

Anyway any News on the Video upload from mike jefferies I heard it was supposed to be on the internet today ed?

I Hope Sheikh Maktoum buys Liverpool with his Personal wealth or the Prince of Saudi Can't Remember his Name Talaweed or something please GOD! !

THank You PLease :)

P.S Ed Love the Sight Keep Check of It Most Days But Would love To See A PresS Conference Very soon with A New Owner ha .

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Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Al Saud.

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05 Oct 2010 17:00:26
Stefan Perrson seems clean unlike some of the other 'names.'

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05 Oct 2010 16:58:37
Liverpool do not need a meglomaniac sugar daddy to takeover. All we need is a wealthy person (Perrson might be ideal), who brings back the stability of before february 2007, who can strengthen our foundations.
This club will run itself once a new stadium is built. The club is still making loads of money commercially. Add to that a new charasmatic manager who players wish to play for, and things will soon look not to bad at all.

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05 Oct 2010 16:18:27
Steffan Persson buying Liverpool with thee price set at £420m.Should be announced before the 15th.

Right person wrong club. Steffen is in talks with Bill Kenwright.

RedandButtered

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05 Oct 2010 16:14:03
Steffan Persson is the 16th richest man, who has just bought a hamphire village for a mere £25 million quid, he actually owns H&M, so hopefully this rumour is true.!

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05 Oct 2010 16:12:39
I agree with everyone who says sammy lee is just not up to the job, i had the misfortune too play under sammy when he ran the bronte football team when 1st starting out on his liverpool career 'even then he wasn't up to the job of running a kids team' let alone Liverpool f.c.In all the years of watching us warm up under Lee alls he does is clap his hands together and point in different directions, if this is all that is needed to coach Liverpool these days' i think i am more than qualified as i can point and look upwards as is often the case when i see Lees training methods, we need a top european coach/ trainer as under lee we will still be doing the same training as when the boot room boys where there
Bully boy65

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05 Oct 2010 16:11:29
All I can say is that I usually find Sharkey one of the best contributors in this forum, while I can't say the same for Mayne. .
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Then the remedy you are looking for mate if you don't like my lies/ posts is don't read them.

Q. What's got 2 thumbs and dosn't give a toss?

A. Blair Mayne YNWA

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05 Oct 2010 15:57:43
Pleas post this

i think dan agger should play defensive mid he better than poulsen and lucas he's quicker and stronger and can certainly hit them better than mascherano
he is wasted at left back so stick him def.mid we gerrard if he is not behind the front man

BEL - agree UNBEL - disagree

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05 Oct 2010 15:13:54
I received a text during the world cup from a mate in Liverpool about Rooney/ Shrek being caught again up to no good which turned out to be true. I posted it on the main rumours site i recieved another text from the same friend yesterday afternoon and he said that the word round Liverpool at the momment is about this guy Persson (who he never heard of) buying LFC.

I'm not saynig this is true and neither is he but i've been to busy to read the rumours/ banter until today and i see this guy Persson's name with most rumours.

I still don't believe it but has anyone from Liverpool heard the same rumour? The 2 Liverpool ED's have you heard the same rumour?

Blair Mayne YNWA

{Editor's Note: I have heard nothing about this at all.}

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05 Oct 2010 14:41:17
Blair Mayne YNWA said at 05 Oct 2010 14:25:18:

"Welcome back YANK! lol"

You are very sweet, thank you.

Sharkey.

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05 Oct 2010 14:25:18
It is hard to figure out if this is simply scaremongering or a poor attempt at explaining the situation. Yet again I assume it is meant to whip the populous in to action against the owners. I was accused by Blair Mayne of supporting Tom Hicks and worse last week and it was made clear that I should h*ck off away from his site etc. Generally I am pleased to do that, but seeing this post, it is worth pointing out at least one major failing.
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I never told you to f*ck off Sharkey. It sounded like you were trying to stick up for Hicks only because he was American and some of your posts sounded arrogant. I didn't say they were arrogant they just sounded arrogant.

Then you take a hissy fit and disappear into the night like the Scarlet Pimpernel!

Welcome back YANK! lol

Blair Mayne YNWA

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05 Oct 2010 14:24:54
Steffan Persson buying Liverpool with thee price set at £420m.Should be announced before the 15th.

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i don't mind us changing from H&G to H&M :D

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05 Oct 2010 14:20:32
05 Oct 2010 13:58:50
05 Oct 2010 13:29:33
GERRARD, TORRES AND REINA STAYED FOR A REASON. NEW CUSTODIANS OF THE CLUB ARE ON THEIR WAY. WE MUST BE PATIENT. IT WILL HAPPEN SOONER OR LATER.

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Mukesh Ambarni
Stefan Perrson
Sheikh Mohammed
Kurahfi Family of Kuwait
Sharjahi billionnaires

Who does Keith Harris represent?
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05 Oct 2010 14:18:44
05 Oct 2010 13:53:09
Steffan Persson buying Liverpool with thee price set at £420m.Should be announced before the 15th.
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Stefan Persson (born 4 October 1947) is the son of Erling Persson who founded the Swedish fashion company Hennes & Mauritz (H&M). Since 1982 Stefan has been the main shareholder of H&M. According to Forbes Magazine, Persson has worth US$22.4 billion in 2010, making him the second richest person in Sweden and the 13th richest person in the world. In 2009 his son Karl-Johan Persson took over as President and CEO of H&M. Stefan lives in Stockholm, Sweden.

He is a supporter of Djurgrdens IF and is co-funding a foundation for the club. He also owns the small English village of Linkenholt.
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NOT SO SURE THIS IS A DIFFUSION. BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH VARIOUS POSTS ABOUT SWEDISH BUSINESS CULTURE OF HONESTY. ALSO LIVERPOOL ARE THE TEAM MOST SWEDES SUPPORT. LIVERPOOL ARE ADMIRED FOR THE CULTURE, ETHOS AND COMMUNITY BASED ETHICS OF THE CLUB BEFORE FEB 2007.
PERRSON IS SERIOUSLY WEALTHY - LET'S GET ALONSO BACK IN JANUARY!

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05 Oct 2010 13:58:50
05 Oct 2010 13:29:33
GERRARD, TORRES AND REINA STAYED FOR A REASON. NEW CUSTODIANS OF THE CLUB ARE ON THEIR WAY. WE MUST BE PATIENT. IT WILL HAPPEN SOONER OR LATER.

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Mukesh Ambarni
Stefan Perrson
Sheikh Mohammed
Kurahfi Family of Kuwait
Sharjahi billionnaires

Who does Keith Harris represent?

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05 Oct 2010 13:53:09
Steffan Persson buying Liverpool with thee price set at £420m.Should be announced before the 15th.

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05 Oct 2010 13:52:58
Unsigned asked at 05 Oct 2010 13:30:19:

"Can someone help me to clarify something in my head, namely the various dates which are being bandied around.

First we had 6th October as the expiry date of the loans. Who stated this date and when?

Somewhere along the line, that date then changed to 16th October. Again, is this an official date of expiry from an official source? Who changed that date and why?

Finally, I am now reading that they have until 29th October (see posts below this one)."

I have no idea if any dates have actually changed or if there was some urban interpretation of dates. My understanding is that October 11 and October 15 both had contractual significance. I would guess that this was to do with dates for Wachovia and RBS but I am not certain. We have already had the size of the debt and any potential penalty payments re-interpreted by some of the "activists" to suit their own agenda. The banks will certainly agree to an extension of the contracted dates for a number of possible reasons (e.g. a sale is being finalised or the existing owners have refinanced, etc.). Another reason for a short-term extension would be a third party (e.g. Goldman Sachs or Lone Star Funds) taking on the debt from the bank.

I would certainly not expect RBS and/or Wachovia (which is part of WF now) to be kicking the doors in and taking control at Anfield anytime soon.

Sharkey.

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05 Oct 2010 13:49:22
05 Oct 2010 12:50:57

I would like to agree with one or two people who are commenting on SOS and their protests. Since the emegence of this group the atmosphere on the Kop is in decline. They have cornred a market in self propaganda, they DO NOT speak for the majority of the fans. A march of 2000 people vs 45000 in the stadium says it all. SOS go the the same way as H&G. Out of the club, you will not get what you want. a seat on the board! Its very similar to the ultras in Italy who can be more than destructive. See what the Lazio ultras did regarding the Mihilovic incident with Viera, it is dangerous territory. No one would want to buy a club when a group of people are hell bent on having their names in papers more than the club, you will not drive out hard nosed business men so start putting your efforts into supporting the team in matches.
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05 Oct 2010 13:46:09
I'll have a go at replying to this, my comments in caps (not shouting)

"I have been a fan of Liverpool FC since 1988, going to games, buying jerseys etc etc.
I am very upset with what is happening at our great club."

SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT

"The fans heve shown no passion during games for the past 12 or so months by comparision to what they used to & i believe its a direct consequence of the spirits of supporters being made negative by these protests. Its making people depressed as there is just doom & gloom surrounding these protests."

THE ATMOSHPERE HAS BEEN SH1TE AT ANFIELD FOR YEARS (DECADES EVEN) BAR THE REALLY BIG GAMES SO YOU CANT BLAME SOS

"I am asking you to pass on my concerns to whoever organises these protests & ask them to try not doing protests in the next home game but to instead use your combined shouts to encourage the players DURING the game - who knows, it may spur them on to a positive result?!"

THE PROTESTS ARE BEFORE AND AFTER

We need positivity right now but these protests while having their hearts in the right place is surely not the way to go.
The players can sense the negativity & play poorly in my opinion. If fans don't show passion during a game why should we expect the players to show passion & perform like we know they can. This is what i believe is happening now. I can promise you i have no connection to Hicks or Gillette but only want whats right for LFC. Again protests do not work & will not work in this situation. If it was working don't you think someone like Phil Thompson would say SOS are doing a great job but when i met him recently he was negative about SOS.
Doesn't that tell you something, taking into account he has nothing to gain or lose by saying how how feels.

1 MANS OPINION, THATS ALL, WHAT DOES THAT PROVE. PHIL HAS A CONTRACT WITH SKY SO WOULD LOSE HIS JOB IF HE WAS SEEN AT THE FRONT OF THE MARCH SHOUTING "YANKS OUT". SAME WITH A LOT OF OTHER EX PLAYERS. TOO SCARED TO LOSE THEIR FREE TICKETS OR JOBS AT THE CLUB BUT WHEN H&G DO GO, THEY'LL ALL COME OUT SAYING WHAT THEY REALLY THOUGHT

Please stop this now before its too late as i for one will partially blame SOS if Liverpool suffer stupid results at home again like Blackpool on Sunday.
Use your organisational ability to organise something positive in the next home match (like supporting the team as if it was a Champions League match for all 90 mins), see if it makes a difference.

BLACKPOOL RAN RINGS ROUND US FIRST HALF, NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY PROTESTS. THERE IS NOTHING TO BE POSITIVE ABOUT

Please stop the negativity or we will never recover from where this is bringing us.
I want H & G out like all real supporters but not at the expense of supporting the team & staff.

SHORT TERM PAIN FOR LONG TERM GAIN. IF THEY STAY WE'LL GET EVEN WORSE, NO MONEY FOR PLAYERS, OUR BEST WILL LEAVE. 40 MILLION A YEAR IN INTEREST. NO DANGER OF NEW STADIUM.

If the fans sang during the Blackpool match like they did before & after (during your protests) we might just might have beaten them as the players would have been motivated much more & would have cared much more.

THERE WERE ONLY ABOUT 3,000 WHO STAYED BEHIND AND MADE SOME NOISE, WHAT WERE THE OTHER 40,000 DOING DURING THE GAME. NOT SINGING THATS FOR SURE. SO HOW CAN YOU BLAME 3000 FOR THE ATMOSPHERE IN THE WHOLE STADIUM

If the fans don't care as i said earlier, why should the players? ?
Feel free to reply if you like, i await a reply with serious interest.

IT'S YOUR OPINION AND YOU ARE ENTITLED TO IT, SAME AS I AM

Kind Regards,
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This is an email i sent to Spirit of Shankley earlier.

MY GOD, YOU CAN'T EVEN SPELL THE GREAT MAN'S NAME RIGHT

Steve O {ed's note - have you ever thought that you might be just holding up the sales process? Only what buyer wants a club which has fans who are likely to turn on him when things aren't going well? The protests before a match do nothing but destroy the atmosphere and sap the confidence out of the players.}

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05 Oct 2010 13:44:52
To the guy who posted babel for kranjcar! won't happen, as well as his mates being at the lane (charlie & luka) their is a very close knit croat community in north east london which plays a very big part of nico's life which is why he said no to a loan move and WILL say no to a move in jan or nxt summer, the player is very happy at whl (even though he never really plays) and sees his future remaining at whl! . ps who's the p* *k that said van der vaart & young were mediocre? what a prat!

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05 Oct 2010 13:40:58
05 Oct 2010 10:21:46

05 Oct 2010 09:51:50

As a Liverpool supporter , does anyone else agree that Sammy Lee is not upto the job and we have been in decline since Paco went . {ed's note - I fully agree.}

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Sad, but I 100% agree. If you look were Lee has been as manger or assist manager (England, Bolton, etc) they have aways played the same and always the teams have been sent on a downwood spiral. Always negative and boring. Roy bring Paco back

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I'm afraid I also agree. I think Sammy could be a problem also. I wonder whether he is the one telling Hodgson and rafa before that certain reserve players like Pacheco and Kelly are not ready yet. Liverpool's current predicament is similar to Bolton when Sammy managed them and was sacked in the first few months of his first season in charge. He failed also when coaching England with Sven.
If Dalglish takes over i expect Lee to be removed or moved sideways to make way for the return of Thompson and Rush (maybe even Roy Evans?).

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05 Oct 2010 13:33:48
At the end of the Sunderland game Gerrard applauded the Kop's sit in protest during the teams warm down.
We should never rest & do what ever it takes to get the yanks out.


sit in protest after the game! I see no problem with that . But before a game we should pack Anfield and sing our harts out to encourage the performance on the pitch, show these players what LFC is about, so they can see the passion and pride and know what wearing the shirt means. Remember some of these players probably know little about the club, what good is chanting and booing to thier confidence, i bet they wonder what the hell is happening. Get behind the boys first, criticize after

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05 Oct 2010 13:30:19
Can someone help me to clarify something in my head, namely the various dates which are being bandied around.

First we had 6th October as the expiry date of the loans. Who stated this date and when?

Somewhere along the line, that date then changed to 16th October. Again, is this an official date of expiry from an official source? Who changed that date and why?

Finally, I am now reading that they have until 29th October (see posts below this one).

Where is this information coming from, and does the publicising of such dates actually reduce the probability that real deadlines are in place at all?

Worse still, does the extention to the original deadline of 6th October mean breathing space is being given to H&G for re-financing?

Ed? Sharkey? Blair? Macca? Anyone?!

Thanks fellow Reds.

Red Gart {ed's note - the dates correspond to when debt repayments are due. Like any debt, the deadline can be extended if the lender agrees to the extension in order to give the debtor time to raise the money.}

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05 Oct 2010 13:29:33
GERRARD, TORRES AND REINA STAYED FOR A REASON. NEW CUSTODIANS OF THE CLUB ARE ON THEIR WAY. WE MUST BE PATIENT. IT WILL HAPPEN SOONER OR LATER.

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05 Oct 2010 12:37:28
To Red Trader, who wrote this:
Lots of big bets being placed on Hicks getting re-financed, price being cut at bookeis, bets from£300 to£1000 being placed, gossip going round most square mile offices, mobils ringing all over the place same call, get on get on! that's all im hearing, most of the saff is this office are on already, sitting rubbing there greedy hands, if this is true wre h*cked Red Trader.

Learn how to spell, and then we might believe that you actually work in such an office. .

No bank in their right mind would refinance Hicks, especially in the current market. . the value of the asset is too close to the value of the debt. The LVR is far too high.

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05 Oct 2010 12:33:26
"I hope you die a slow and very painful death"

Ed I can't believe you posted this.

I'm as upset as everyone else about the state the club is in and I mostly blame the yanks too but I think some fans need to take a reality check. Football is important to us but wanting somebody to die for it is insane. Anyone who pressed believeable to that post is far worse than the yanks

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05 Oct 2010 12:28:32
Tom Hicks is not on the verge of securing finance for Liverpool. Although the Americans have been given until the Friday 29th October to secure a buyer. This is due to Liverpool (Purslow, Ayre, Broughton) wanting firm clarification that if RBS call in the debts and Hicks and Gillett company is put into administration, that Liverpool will not be deducted 9 points. There is interest in the club from across the world - but no-one is prepared to pay £500m now, when in a month they can get the club for closer to £300m. Expect new owners in place for the January transfer window. In transfer news, Roy Hodgson wants to swap Ryan Babel with Niko Kranjcar of Tottenham in January.

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05 Oct 2010 12:23:57
Hi ED! Do u think Roy non-defense of its players (referring to attack on Torres by Ferguson) is one of the reason players are unhappy. . . .has Roy lost support of the dressing room after that incident. .

I personally felt Roy should have reacted immediately to that. . .out of respect for Ferguson he didn't do it. . .and this is where I feel we don't need manager who is too respectful to other managers specially Man Utd. . .rather we need one who is very very passionate about Liverpool like we fans. . .

What say ED! {ed's note - what we need is an FA who stands up to Fergie and punishes him for his actions. Our manager should be far too busy managing our team to worry about the bile spouted from the drunken fool.}

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05 Oct 2010 12:16:12
On a negtive note. . I really think we can safely say that LFC's transition into a bottom half table team is near completion. Reasons are as follows:

Poor form
Poor manager
Poor owners
Poor attendance levels this season - ive never seen so many empty seats
mediocre players rejecting us - young, van der vaart, gyan etc.

We are in major termoile and how the yanks can value us at anything more than 1p profit is beyond me. You would think that a club such as LFC with all its history and heritage would attract a bidding war, but no - we are now on par with Blackburn, Bolton and even Roys beloved Fulham.

I know that the majority on this site won't agree with me, but i am a realist - LFC is in decline and noamount of wishful thinking will change that. If we do get new owners then it could take years to build us again - not the January transfer window as you all say. It will be too late by then to attract the stars as why would then come to LFC who may be fighting relegation.

Press believe to support my views
Press unbelieve to carry on dreaming

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05 Oct 2010 12:09:58
Instead of boycotting and protesting, the fans
(e.g SOS)should have asked fans around the world to contribute minimum GBP 500, we would have raised 500 million by now and bought LFC instead of walking around Anfield.

We would have been the new owner by now

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05 Oct 2010 11:57:56
To this i say. . . Well said, We have to show ALL CONCERNED HOW WE FEEL. Staying quiet would do nothing! !

I can't believe some fans one here are against the well organized protests to get rid of our owners. The spirit of Shankly group has done a fantastic job of standing up against our owners in a David V's Goliath battle. We as supporters should be doing all we can to stop refinance for Hicks, including protesting before the match. I for one am proud to be apart of Sundays protest before the Blackpool game.
The team want the yanks out as much as the supporters. At the end of the Sunderland game Gerrard applauded the Kop's sit in protest during the teams warm down.
We should never rest & do what ever it takes to get the yanks out.

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05 Oct 2010 11:56:48
Someone has posted about 'Kraptalk' concerning UAE & US battling out for control of LFC, we all Know they are full of B£$$* *T am I correct ED? It wud be nice if the club itself wud give us at least a hint at what is going on behind the scenes as I like a lot of other supporters are relly worried and i suppose we shud all get behind the manager but are finding it quite difficult to do so when they are playing so badly!

Mark JFT 96 {ed's note - you are very right mate.}

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05 Oct 2010 11:53:14
I can't believe some fans one here are against the well organized protests to get rid of our owners. The spirit of Shankly group has done a fantastic job of standing up against our owners in a David V's Goliath battle. We as supporters should be doing all we can to stop refinance for Hicks, including protesting before the match. I for one am proud to be apart of Sundays protest before the Blackpool game.
The team want the yanks out as much as the supporters. At the end of the Sunderland game Gerrard applauded the Kop's sit in protest during the teams warm down.
We should never rest & do what ever it takes to get the yanks out.

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05 Oct 2010 11:33:28
Koptalk saying investors from UAE and USA potenital new owners

Any city confirmation onthe above from Koptalk

Another owner from USA, hope it is Bill GAtes or Warren Buffet

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05 Oct 2010 11:32:38
Ed, do you think we'd be takenover before the derby match against Everton. . thanks {ed's note - there will be no way any takeover will be complete before then, it takes months to complete. The process is likely to begin by then, anyone that was waiting until the last minute will have to show their hand by then or wait for the bank to repossess the club.}

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05 Oct 2010 11:27:26
Lots of big bets being placed on Hicks getting re-financed, price being cut at bookeis, bets from£300 to£1000 being placed, gossip going round most square mile offices, mobils ringing all over the place same call, get on get on! that's all im hearing, most of the saff is this office are on already, sitting rubbing there greedy hands, if this is true wre f* ked Red Trader.

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05 Oct 2010 11:18:19
This is the 2nd time i have posted here but im on this site all the time anyway im just going to get straight to the point.

Im completely against anymore protests before the match our players can surely hear all that, after the match yeah let the whole world know hick & gillet are not wanted here but before we should be chanting for our team and singing YNWA.

During the match we should be the loudest fans in the ground for the WHOLE of the 90 mins there playing, even if there not playing well we are supporters so start supporting the team and give the players a boost and forget about the owners for them 90 mins.

I for one have not seen that 12th man out there pushing the team along to win these games for a long time.

So all that goto the match rally around and pass on the word to shout and sing our players names in support.

Hicks and Gillet hardly ever got to the games and its not like they give a S* t what we think anyway.

The world knows what it happening and i think the emails and the film that is getting uploaded will get our message accross and protest after the match.

We have some fantastic players in our team who need a major boost and that's what we as supporters can do and then maybe we can start our season.

ynwa liverbird.

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05 Oct 2010 09:34:07
News coming out of Anfield today is. . Hodgson has at least one more game. Everton is make or break for the reds boss.
Interm manager will be Dalglish although the board arnt to happy about this.
Relegation battle talk diddnt go down well with the club plus the league position. Seems the manager has lost the dressing room after his non defence or support of the players after Mr Ferguson attacked Torres. It's up to Hodgson to improve from this moment on.
Btw Raffa does have a clause in his contract allowing him to return although I very much can't see it happening.
Betting man would put a few quid on Dalglish appointment within the next couple of weeks but I really hope our current gaffa turns things around and gets us on a winning streak

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05 Oct 2010 09:08:20
Definately agree with this, the protests are only hurting us in term of taking emphasis off supporting the team. Protests will prove nothing or change nothing in any takeover situation. Business is business & protests will not change a thing.
Sorry but i'm in total agreement with the above statement from "Sharkey".

Irish KevI too totally agree!
Can we see who else agrees with a yes Believable and No unbelievable.
Protests need to stop and lets be the loudest fans we can whatever is happening, should a glen johnson or Lucas pass a ball straight to the opposition sing even louder, there for, they may even have the will to challange to win the ball back. When there is a loose ball and its 50-50, chant the clubs name, time for the 12th man to really make the difference and spur our team to rise from the ashes. We are LFC for christ sake, i'm not saying we can't be critical of what we see, but lets leave it until after the game, at the next home game get in early and let the players hear that we mean business so when they come out that tunnel they too mean business, lets put the fear right up those oppostion who come to the legendary Anfield. We are supposed to be the worlds best fans, Lets act like it!

L.I.V.E.R.P.O.O.L L.I.V.E.R.P.O.O.L

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05 Oct 2010 03:27:40
It appears that that lying scum Tom Hicks may have sorted out his refinance package for the club. I hope this is not true! It comes from a variety of sources both in the finance world and the media.

Apparently David Maddock has the details on the story but is waiting for confirmation before going with it.

I don't know how much more of this I can take !

Liverpool FC
Born : 1892
Died : 2010

Thank you Hicks & Gillette for destroying over 100 years of history in a few short years.

I hope you die a slow and very painful death.

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05 Oct 2010 02:50:07
To whom it may concern,

I have been a fan of Liverpool FC since 1988, going to games, buying jerseys etc etc.
I am very upset with what is happening at our great club.
But i am writing to you to tell you that i honestly do not think protesting before & after home matches is or will do any good for the club.
The fans heve shown no passion during games for the past 12 or so months by comparision to what they used to & i believe its a direct consequence of the spirits of supporters being made negative by these protests. Its making people depressed as there is just doom & gloom surrounding these protests.
I am asking you to pass on my concerns to whoever organises these protests & ask them to try not doing protests in the next home game but to instead use your combined shouts to encourage the players DURING the game - who knows, it may spur them on to a positive result?!
We need positivity right now but these protests while having their hearts in the right place is surely not the way to go.
The players can sense the negativity & play poorly in my opinion. If fans don't show passion during a game why should we expect the players to show passion & perform like we know they can. This is what i believe is happening now. I can promise you i have no connection to Hicks or Gillette but only want whats right for LFC. Again protests do not work & will not work in this situation. If it was working don't you think someone like Phil Thompson would say SOS are doing a great job but when i met him recently he was negative about SOS.
Doesn't that tell you something, taking into account he has nothing to gain or lose by saying how how feels.
Please stop this now before its too late as i for one will partially blame SOS if Liverpool suffer stupid results at home again like Blackpool on Sunday.
Use your organisational ability to organise something positive in the next home match (like supporting the team as if it was a Champions League match for all 90 mins), see if it makes a difference.

Please stop the negativity or we will never recover from where this is bringing us.
I want H & G out like all real supporters but not at the expense of supporting the team & staff.
If the fans sang during the Blackpool match like they did before & after (during your protests) we might just might have beaten them as the players would have been motivated much more & would have cared much more. If the fans don't care as i said earlier, why should the players? ?
Feel free to reply if you like, i await a reply with serious interest.

Kind Regards,
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This is an email i sent to Spirit of Shankley earlier.
Does anyone think they'll listen or was it pointless?
Ed, what do you think mate?
Have i any chance that they might have their heads turned a little?
Do you agree / disagree with what i said in the email?
Ed, your thoughts mate? {ed's note - I very much doubt they will listen, though I do agree with what you have said fully. The protests have brought nothing good to the club as far as I can see. I am sure they intend them to be helpful, but I fail to see how protesting helps the team perform better, or how it helps get rid of H&G any quicker.}

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05 Oct 2010 02:17:33
"04 Oct 2010 23:33:56
I am a swedish l.f.c supporter and talk of pesson buying the club is false.he is joint chaiman of durgarden f.c in sweden and would not be allowed by fifa, uefa or the fa to have some control or influence in 2 different clubs."
Leaking news(it is not breking news)
Presson will resign his job tomorrow!

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05 Oct 2010 01:13:57
Redsincebirth cut and paste an article that has been doing the rounds at 04 Oct 2010 23:58:23:

"Here is some interesting info for you to read on what could happen over the next couple of weeks . . yadda, yadda, yadda"

It is hard to figure out if this is simply scaremongering or a poor attempt at explaining the situation. Yet again I assume it is meant to whip the populous in to action against the owners. I was accused by Blair Mayne of supporting Tom Hicks and worse last week and it was made clear that I should h*ck off away from his site etc. Generally I am pleased to do that, but seeing this post, it is worth pointing out at least one major failing.

It seems to me that the quoted expert James Dow, apparently a partner in the northwest accountancy firm Dow Schofield Watts who has advised Barcelona and Celtic, fails to understand the most simplistic of issues - where the debt is owed. According to Dow it is £237M with RBS. I would like to offer the opportunity for Mr Dow to meet with me to discuss this entire matter and I will be pleased to present his side of this entire post in a clear and honest light. No doubt one of the Liverpool agitators could arrange this.

Much of the rest of the article presents a series one-sided and somewhat inflammatory statements no doubt placed for the purposes of incitement. I assume that the folks at KopTalk will again be up in arms by the morning.

It has become clear over the past few days that there are serious efforts being made to continue to mislead Liverpool fans, to constantly agitate a difficult situation and to agitate matters concerning the players and the coaching staff in some misguided attempt to oust the existing owners. Somehow, it has been forgotten that the owners are attempting to sell the club and the efforts of the fans are making matters worse. The fans should be bright enough to figure that out. They should also be bright enough to figure out that the team and the staff need the fan's support at games, but they continue to make life difficult.

Sharkey.

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04 Oct 2010 23:58:23
Here is some interesting info for you to read on what could happen over the next couple of weeks i hope you find it interesting and give some idea of what our great club may or maybe not facing!
With Liverpool FC continuing to struggle on the pitch, the battle for control off it is seen by many fans as vital to a revival in fortunes.

This month is regarded as crucial in settling the long-term ownership of the club with the expiry date for the Royal Bank of Scotland's £237m loan to Liverpool's American co-owners possibly less than a fortnight away.

The majority of fans hope an inability to pay off that loan will force Tom Hicks and George Gillett out of Anfield, allowing a new owner to take the club forward, hopefully with that crippling debt removed.

But there is a fear Tom Hicks could even raise extra finance to take over the club on a solo basis, regardless of the sever reservations of the rest of the LFC board.

Today, we examine the five potential scenarios which could soon unfold at Anfield. You can also vote on which of them you want to happen, and which is most likely, by clicking here.

Some finance experts envisage that the October deadline could pass without any firm resolution about the Reds' future established.

James Dow, a partner in the northwest accountancy firm Dow Schofield Watts who has advised Barcelona and Celtic, described Liverpool's predicament as a "stand-off."

And he predicted it may take many more months for the ownership to be clarified, possibly dragging the uncertainty even until summer, 2011.

Mr Dow told the ECHO: "If Hicks can find finance, I don't think any lack of support from the board will make a difference.

"But for now, a deal isn't happening as there's a stand-off going on.

"Liverpool are in a no-man's land.

"But ultimately, this could drag on and on, and not even be resolved until next summer."

Royal Bank of Scotland Call In The Debt

The Royal Bank of Scotland call in their £237m debt, and effectively repossess Liverpool FC - in much the same way a bank would repossess your house if you defaulted on your mortgage.

This, however, would likely be a temporary arrangement, with RBS maintaining the current English board structure and Hicks and Gillett removed from the picture.

Observers speculate it would give the bank time to quickly find a more realistic buyer for the Anfield club, drastically bringing down the sale price from the lofty £500m-£600m currently being touted by Hicks.

"Interested parties" are likely to "show their hand" once figures of around £300m, thought to be a more realistic estimation for Liverpool, are proposed.

The Americans would doubtless launch their own legal challenge if RBS took over running of Liverpool.

Kop Holdings Goes Into Administration

Although unlikely, the bank could technically place Kop Holdings, Liverpool FC's parent company, into administration.

But the ECHO understands the Premier League would not view that move as Liverpool Football Club itself being declared insolvent.

Regular discussions have been taking place between Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton and league chief executive Richard Scudamore.

The Reds have been seeking clarification on what would be the potential scenario if RBS took temporary charge at Anfield.

Sources have indicated a nine-point deduction, threatened to football clubs when they go bust like Portsmouth last season, would not materialise.

League chiefs crucially consider the debt to rest squarely on the shoulders of Tom Hicks and George Gillett, co-chairman of the club and owners of Kop Football Holdings.

Managing director Christian Purslow has repeatedly said that there is no prospect of Liverpool Football Club going into administration.

Speaking last week he said: "When we sell the business the debt will be reduced or go away which will make us the most profitable club in the Premier League. Liverpool is not going bust."

As Liverpool has proved they have steady revenues - TV rights money, ticket sales, sponsorship - the club would avoid incurring any penalty.

Although Steve Horner, of campaign group Kop Faithful, said: "I am sure that the majority of Liverpool fans would settle for a nine-point deduction if it meant that Hicks and Gillett would never darken our door again."

New Buyer Comes Forward

A bidder puts forward a package to buy Liverpool which is considered acceptable by the Reds board before October's refinancing deadline.

With the structure of the board crucially changed during the summer, Broughton, Purslow and Ayre could now out-vote the Americans.

The only formal offer made for Liverpool came from the Rhone Group in March when they proposed to pay £110m for a 70% stake in the club, making the Americans passive shareholders.

In many Anfield quarters it was considered a "solid" proposal to pay down a portion of the debt and make transfer funds available.

That bid was dismissed by Hicks and Gillett, and tellingly, the make-up of the board changed after the event, allowing the English board members to effectively out-vote the owners. A proposal from Chinese mogul Kenny Huang and QSL Sports company was withdrawn in August.

It was said to be for £325m, but the ECHO understands it failed to impress the Anfield board who considered it incomplete and not supported by genuine finance, although it is hoped it may be resurrected.

With consortiums, possibly just two currently in dialogue with Liverpool, biding their time before the club price falls, a bid before deadline remains improbable.

The Americans themselves had lent £145m to Kop Football Holdings. But at the insistence of RBS in one of the previous refinancing rounds, the Americans converted the loans into equity.

Add the £145m to the £237m owed to the banks and around £30m of penalty charges, and the Americans must sell for more than £410m to merely break even.

Refinancing

Royal Bank of Scotland agrees to extend the refinancing deadline to give Tom Hicks time to establish new sources of funding (effectively debt).

Liverpool FC officials view this step as the "worst possible scenario" for the club and Christian Purslow has consistently said would be opposed by the board

This extension could be anything, starting from just a couple of weeks to allow the club to be sold to a bidder needing more time to complete due diligence before a purchase.

It could be longer if RBS finds the prospect of taking over or forcing administration to be unpalatable or too legally complex.

The bank, however, could potentially place caveats on any extension, for example that the Americans are forced to accept lower offers than the figures they are currently seeking.

With the prospect of legal challenges, RBS may have little choice but to extend temporary finances.

Hicks Pays Off The Debt

Tom Hicks manages to raise the appropriate funds to pay off the Royal Bank of Scotland debt and retains ownership of the club.

The English members on Liverpool's board - managing director Christian Purslow, chairman Martin Broughton and commercial director Ian Ayre - would almost certainly lodge objections against such a move if any new debt was secured against the assets of Liverpool FC.

They have already consulted solicitors regarding blocking a new financing package from the Texan.

But how successful such a challenge would be remains untested as some law experts told the ECHO covering the RBS debt would give him "carte blanche" to rip up the existing board structure and appoint new members of his choice.

Privately, Liverpool view Hicks' attempts to persuade a private equity company to shoulder the £237m arrears as highly unlikely.

The easiest way for Hicks to retain control of the club is for him to raise the finance himself, without securing it against the club's assets.

This has sparked fears about his intentions in creating a new investment company for which he is currently trying to attract investors.

According to papers registered with the USA's Securities and Exchange Commission, Hicks Acquisition Company II is seeking to raise $230m (£145m).

Shares are being offered for $10 in the "newly organised blank check company formed for the purpose of effecting a merger, capital stock exchange, asset acquisition, stock purchase, reorganisation or similar business combination with one or more businesses."

The initial public offering papers also warn prospective investors that "investing in our securities involves a high degree of risk".

The company is registered at the same address as Hicks Holdings - from where Hicks conducts his business affairs.

The underwriters for the deal are Citi Bank and Deutsche Bank Securities, with the company expected to start trading on Thursday, October 7.
lets hope no one is silly enough to lend to Mr. Hicks,
hicks holdings my a*se!
redsincebirth
Y.N.W.A

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