Liverpool Rumours Archive August 05 2014

05 Aug 2014 21:18:56
Bayern Munich have confirmed they have agreed a deal to sign Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina with the Spaniard set for a medical in the next 24 hours.

Can't see how Reina thinks giving up wages, moving to Germany and riding the pine are good career moves, but I wish him all the best if he wants to go.

To be honest I don't wish him the best I hope he sits on the bench for the rest of his career

He is obviously and purely only money oriented to agree to sit on the bench at his age with his talent. Probably the reason reason him and Brendon didn't see eye to eye. What a shame and waste. Very dissapointing, someone else who doesn't deserve their talent.

Reusch- disgraceful comment to one of the best keepers LFC has ever had. And a good guy too.

A great servant to LFC, think Rodgers has missed a trick here. He could really have helped Mignolet's development.

Bayerns bench is certainly more attractive than ours at this moment in time.

I think pepe and BR must dislike each other, he wants to leave because he not playing then why go to the club with the best keeper in the world .

Sometimes there are trends in football squads, like tactics for example and also players.
I've noticed Barca, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Arsenal, Munich now all have two no.1 GKs.
We now don't.

He wouldn't even make our bench, he's 4th choice, will be happy to get rid. Frankly I'm surprised Pep wants him, I guess he knows him from the good ol' days. I just hope the move doesn't get ballsed up by Reina refusing a pay-cut.

I would prefer him over Migs.
Much better ball deployment and organises the defence much better.
I guess the hatchet was too far buried to come back from!
Now. we need a great (not just good) number one

Like him or not as a person RedKev, fact is he is a top GK. Without being exact in my memory, wasn't it about 2-3 seasons ago where we had two keepers out via injury and suspension? Or both suspended? Isn't that how Jones got his first game time?

What happens now, if that very possible event happens? Ward? Did BR even give him 20minutes this preseason?

Well hopefully a new keeper will be signed, Zieler or Neto perhaps.

Reina didn't think about Liverpool when he was bragging about going to Barcalona!
Then it turned out they were never interested in him.
Good riddance I say.
And good to get some more dead wood off our payroll

Let's all hope he'll pass the medicals then! This will be transfer of the season for us.

People with very short memories on here. It was poor form the way pepe tried to engineer moves not once but twice. Not to mention the poor form on the pitch for 2 seasons. One of my favourite players ever during his peak an I thought he was nailed on to be captain one day what a shame

05 Aug 2014 18:41:09
Any truth to the Reina to Munich rumours?

Cheers

{Ed002's Note - It is possible if he lowers his wage demands and accepts he will be on the bench.}

05 Aug 2014 19:15:21
Why would he do that though? he has more chance at playing at LFC and if you are right will be on less money expect this to fall through

Seems like a lot of hassle and loss of money to move and warm the bench elsewhere. neuer will go down as the best keeper ever (mark my words), no chance over there.

He has got no chance of playing at LFC, he is 4th choice, he is done.

05 Aug 2014 17:50:12
Have we lodged an 18mil bid for lavezzi of PSG?

{Ed002's Note - No idea.}

Hope not

I'll accept him if he comes, but I really not sure that's a big improvement from Borini.

05 Aug 2014 11:22:00
Ed002. Can you explain the logic of the Javier Manquillo transfer to me because it doesn't make sense to me at all from both Liverpool and Atletico's perspective.

Why would Liverpool loan a young upcoming right back in a position we are overloaded in? And if he is so highly rated why would Atletico loan him. Keep him or atleast make some money by selling him. I find it quite stupid - If he plays well and we don't buy him, then atletico have a better player. If he doesn't play well he blocks the progress of another young player like mclaughlin.

I know we have been stupid with our transfers in the past but this defies all logic

{Ed002's Note - It makes no sense for me and I guess perhaps Rodgers does not see Kelly and Flanagan as good enough.}

Let's not forget Wisdom, who had a great loan in the Championship last season and has first team prem experience with us as well.
Another strong message sent out to our youngsters who do well and progress on loan. Goodbye.

From yesterday performance from Kelly and Johnson against united says everything. Kelly was caught do many times by Shaw. And we all know defensive side of Johnson. Flano is good but as we know we have 4 competition now. So we need more players.

Kelly will be used as a center back next season as Agger is likely to be sold and with Johnson likely to be sold that will leave Flanagan competing with Manquillo for the right back position.

05 Aug 2014 19:02:22
For me Kelly just isn't a natural RB and isn't good enough to be anything other than backup at Liverpool, Johnson is done and will hopefully be sold, which only leaves Flanno so him sharing/competing RB duties with Manquillo makes sense to me.Saw the opportunity to improve the squad and too it. I would like to see McClaughlin get the league cup games, I think he's good enough to compete with the other two.

{Ed002's Note - That would not seem to be the plan.}

Kelly isn't good enough and should be sold if it wasnt for the fact he is club grown we wouldn't even be having this discussion the same with Johnson.

Which only leaves flanagan so bringing in a new RB makes perfect sense I assume the loan situation is because we are looking at FFP aswell giving us a safety net look at aspas how much better would it have been if we loaned him?

Guys we constantly go on about the great work the manager has done to get us to where we are now, we also say to trust the manager too.
So maybe the Ed is right, maybe BR doesn't think Flanno, Kelly etc are good enough full backs for Liverpool so he has decided to bring in someone who he feels is a good fullback.

I personally think signing Manquillo as well as Moreno would be a master stroke by Rodgers.

Offload Johnson at the first available opportunity (even if its on a free at the end of his contract) and you have 2 workable, potentially excellent right backs for (and I'm guessing here) around the wages of Johnson by himself. Sell Agger (who will always be in our hearts) before we get no return on him and Kelly can double as a fifth CB/third RB no problem (and as he's working his way back to fitness, he doesn't need to play week in week out right now).

LB: Moreno, Enrique, McClaughlin, (Can?)
RB: Flanagan, (Johnson), Manquillo, Kelly
CB: Sakho, Lovren, Skrtel, Toure

I'd be tickled pink with that defense.

{Ed002's Note - I spoke with someone well respected as an ex-player and all round great guy and he said that Can should be used as a LB - not because he is 100mph going forward but because he feels he can play a winger out of the game.}

He has an excellent point. He's robust on the ball, perhaps more so than Enrique (they are similar in that regard) but he's quicker to get it off his foot. He defends well, and. correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Hyppia play him at left back for Leverkusen? Perhaps that's a last resort if Moreno doesn't come in.

He makes a very versatile companion for Gerrard and Henderson, and if he's played to the left side of midfield, I'm sure he can track back in support of a more direct left back (like Moreno) and of course he offers a lot in attack as well.

Flanagan, for me, is still the best choice on the right, as he's a little less likely to lose possession compared to Johnson, who really needs to be more composed on the ball. I would prefer he never gets into the box if it meant he could keep a left winger from getting in a cross.

Makes no sense to me either, just like the Ilori deal (he was also highly rated).

If Johnson is sold (hopefully) that leaves just Flanagan and Kelly, who let's be honest will probably be out injured for the season again, as well as maybe McLaughlin for RB and I feel Flanagan is not yet ready for the responsibility of holding the RB position mainly by himself, so another quality right back for a season is what we need before Flanagan is fully ready. In terms of Athletico's benefit, Manquillo is not yet above Juanfran, so he won't get as much game time as he will at Liverpool, so a year of more game time will help further his development.

Juanfran is being sold Cornish. I'm not overly keen on the buy back or recall option, we could be producing their RB for them next season.

Kelly, honestly I think is over-rated. I like the guy, he's come through the system and maybe that makes us more emotionally attached to him, but is he good enough for a team challenging for the title and playing champions league. Probably not. If he comes off the bench do you have overwhelming confidence or do you think, hmm, this could be flakey here for a bit.

The Manquillo deal makes sense, a lengthy loan to see if he can adjust to not only the premiership but also life in england. if he does great, if he doesnt, we've not lost anything apart from his wages.

05 Aug 2014 17:19:39
Word is that we've bid 18m for Lavezzi. Good news reds.

cheeeeers

05 Aug 2014 18:09:36
The word is that it is from the BBC gossip column.

Bad news reds.

05 Aug 2014 18:56:17
No chance, too old for that money, why not just sign Valbuena for half the price? It'll be Bony and Los Niños. If another WF comes in it'd likely be Konoplyanka anyway.

{Ed002's Note - Valbuena has already moved.}

I know Valbuena has already moved, I was speaking in the hypothetical past perfect conditional tense. If we had been planning to sign Lavezzi, why wouldn't we have just signed Valbuena instead? Type thingy. ;)

Thats like saying why did we sign Emre Can and not Pogba. You can't just buy any player you want and there are a lot more complications to transfers

05 Aug 2014 15:39:06
Apparently Moreno is so keen to join us that he has agreed to lower his initial agreed wage to ensure the move goes through asap. A good sign if it is to be believed.

Been watching a bit of him on YouTube and whilst he looks really good going forward he has looked all over the place at the back?
Any one else think the same?

Why hasn't he sign? Longest boring transfer ever

If true, I like the sound of him - it means he wants to play for the club and badge. Depends who is saying this as to how much we can read in to it.

Sometimes it is a lack of understanding in tactics that causes the players defensive problems, I hope this has been resolved now as leaked too many goals for defensive errors. If it is, I am sure he will be fine.

05 Aug 2014 13:54:40
A few media articles this morning are suggesting that Swansea have contacted Liverpool and Spurs and are willing to negotiate in regards to Bony. If true we could now realistically get him for £14m-£16m as I'm certain Swansea will want to make a small profit on the £12m they spent to get him. We would also be the most attractive prospect given that he wants to play Champions league football. Hope Macca's right as he will be a fantastic addition to the team.

I doubt we will sign him to be honest but I would love it if he did! What are your thoughts on this eds?

05 Aug 2014 10:27:35
Eds, I see in some Press/media outlets that LFC are being linked with Napoli's Striker Jose Callejon, any truth to this? If so, I wonder whether a swop with Jose Reina could potentially happen?

{Ed002's Note - I wouldn't hold your breath.}