Liverpool Rumours Archive September 28 2015

 

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28 Sep 2015 22:04:11
After 7 games we are 3 points ahead of Chelsea, 2 behind Arsenal who are in a Champions League place, 4 behind Man City and only 5 points behind Man Utd who are top. We have strikers that a capable of scoring goals and we have two quality full backs operating on either flank. I believe that we will be in the top 4 at Christmas as we will play 4312 and our defence will come good. As most of our difficult away games will be out of the way we will also finish strongly.

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28 Sep 2015 22:36:24
The thing is though mate you are not allowed to be positive on these pages.

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28 Sep 2015 22:53:20
Scouse, what are you doing, don't you know you're not allowed to be positive here?

Quick, type about teeth!

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28 Sep 2015 23:51:41
After 7 games and only 1 and a half decent performances, two lucky decisions and two wonder strikes, more like we are lucky not to be where Newcastle are and thankful that the rest have not left us for dust that is rodgers only saving grace and seems to be his new defence for being an ignoramus.

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29 Sep 2015 00:10:50
Again another post that masks the reality. Listen, you can throw up all the numbers you want, it doesn't change the fact that we can't defend, the three at the back, we don't know our best system or best eleven, money wasted, the manager is counting on conspiracy theories to keep his job and etc. and if he was that good, why is FSG having a cocktail either CA? That my friends, is reality, not negativity.

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29 Sep 2015 01:46:24
I think the good news is our position in the league as you say Scouse, also Sturridge is back, we're playing 2 up front with Ings, and looking like making lots of chances (who would have guessed 2 mobile forwards upfront works for Liverpool eh?).

On the other hand we don't have a settled team yet and our defence is still a mess, 3 at the back isn't the answer to all questions and I honestly think Rogers is stumbling, occasionally hitting a winning formula for a couple of games, rather than strategically engineering our way to top 4. Thank goodness we have enough talent to win despite him is my honest opinion, but I hope he proves me wrong or we change things before its too late (my preferred route as he's had enough money and time to still be stumbling for a winning formula).

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29 Sep 2015 08:59:24
I understand where this post is coming from, and the table dosen't lie but. . This is my take on it. I think Rodgers has done well for Liverpool amazing season when we nearly won the league and still to finish second behind City is still something to be happy about, my problem is after that season where Rodgers has gone wrong. Suarez left (didn't replace him) messed Gerrard around, the whole Sterling fiasco. I think his arrogance ran riot and now he is starting to fell the backlash of that.

He has took us as far as he can now its time for someone else with more pedigree to take over

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29 Sep 2015 10:44:57
No disrespect scouse but don't compare us with chelsea. yes they are having a crisis now, but they have a winning proven manager, an incredible quality squad and they will 100% bounce back and make the top four.
Five points off the lead after 7 games translates to 28 points off the lead by next may (ie similar to last season)- IF things stay roughly the same.
Everything depends on whether you think br can improve the performances and results, and whether you think its worth taking the chance of letting him try.
Personally I think I've seen enough to conclude that br will not turn it around, the gap will double to being ten points off the lead by xmas, and we will be nowhere near top four by end of season.
Give him another 5 years and you may see a good consistent coach, but right now he is not good enough to get any team into the CL without the help of 2 or 3 world class players- and we don't have those.
We need a manager who can battle and win against the odds without needing a squad of world class players.

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29 Sep 2015 12:54:09
So everyone else being fairly rubbish is an excuse for us to be fairly rubbish rather than a great chance fo us to get a head start with some realtively easy games like Bournemouth and Norwich? Great, good to know

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29 Sep 2015 14:12:01
Nonsense. I can spin it another way. After 7 games, we have only scored 7 goals, seem clueless in attack, defense and midfield, after spending £300 million in 7 transfer windows under Rodgers, with no clear plan or strategy on how to win games. We are also only 5 points ahead of 17th placed stoke, and have conceded 9 goals.

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29 Sep 2015 14:40:44
There are no easy games in the BPL. West Ham have already won away at us, Arsenal & Man City, granted we lost due to the lack of leadership and organisation within our defence. I would like to point out that I am usually just a pessimistic as most on here but something definitely has appeared to changed within the squad and once we hit a decent patch of form we will excel.

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29 Sep 2015 16:30:50
I think the major issue is that we haven't made any progress at all since last season. Our defence is still leaking, the new players aren't fitting in, there is no set system for them and, as always, we rely on Sturridge to get us out of jail. This time last year we had 10 points, now we have 11; we won 3 games and it is the same this season. Predictable? Average? or just the plateau of Rodgers' powers to progress us any further?

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01 Oct 2015 13:49:04
Come on now, there is a difference between positive and deluded, currently a relatively poor team with a manager playing good players out of position. Decent performance and result against the Gooners but then a draw against Norwich who you would normally smash in seasons gone by. Lots more tougher tests to come for Liverpool and at the moment it doesn't look like they will have the answers.

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28 Sep 2015 19:53:44
Just read the news about Vigouroux, that's poor to say the least! Shame as he was showing promise on loan.

Lawrence Vigouroux loan spell at Swindon cut short after discharging £50 fine with pennies
http://goo.gl/2tkxYD

Believable7 Unbelievable1

28 Sep 2015 20:09:37
He was fined £50 and paid the £50. I didn't know Swindon don't accept pennies, I really underestimated the financial position that they are in. He should have been told that all fines at the club must be paid in £50 notes.

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28 Sep 2015 21:05:46
unfortunate, but he should've taken his fine seriously.

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28 Sep 2015 22:01:48
What an idiot.
He should be made to work on the stadium for a few weeks with the builders until he learns the true value of money when the builders no doubt send him to the chippy everyday to buy everyone's dinner, in pennies of course.

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29 Sep 2015 00:22:09
Agree completely mikey, for a young lad he should be showing more appreciation for the fact swindown is providing him with first team football, or maybe he thinks his football career is going to last forever so money isn't an issue, personally i'd fine him again or just send him on his way

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29 Sep 2015 01:48:33
It's a silly mistake, hopefully learns and moves on

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29 Sep 2015 08:07:57
Seems a bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater for a struggling Swindon side here. Still, hopefully he'll live and learn

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29 Sep 2015 09:32:36
Three at the back doesn't work and we all know this, Simon Mignolet is an excellent shot stopper but can't catch or position his defence, playing players out of position under utilises their abilities and we need Lucas to play behind the midfield. Daniel Sturridge is back on the scoring chart with Ings and Benteke also of the mark in the league as well as this we have a back up goal keeper who is an improvement on last year and a top quality right back. It is not worth considering transfer targets at this point as our team is still gelling and because of the uncertainty surrounding Brendan Rodgers.
I support Liverpool FC and which ever manager is in charge (even if he is the footballing version of George Bush Jr.)

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28 Sep 2015 17:03:27
ED002, any idea if Barca will make a move for Coutinho in Jan and if so what amount would you expect LFC to want before selling?

Would this sale, I'll assume similar to Sterlings value, be enough for what LFC need to gain by June or are further sales after Coutinho to Barca required.

Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - Barcelona has made it be known that they have an interest in Coutinho. If nothing happens to change that they will make an offer in 2016. However, do not be surprised to see circumstances change - and then we need to wait and see. To get money for June Liverpool can sell in January or sell the loan to buy players - and that is it.}

28 Sep 2015 21:57:14
We would demand mega money for couts possibly enough for barca to walk away

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29 Sep 2015 00:12:54
If Barca wants him, he will go and we will confirm our status as a selling club, no matter how much we get for him. We sold LS for a king's ransom. How's that working out?

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29 Sep 2015 01:56:59
I would absolutely hate to see him go but if it's one position we can afford to lighten up on its no.10 with Firmino, Llalana and Teixera in the wings (albeit none nearly as finished article) so I wouldn't be shocked if we considered an outrageous bid.

Having said that I don't trust how we'd spend it either so I'd rather we tried to sell none-core players to upgrade rather than selling our best players to fund improvements elsewhere, hasn't worked the last two seasons.

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29 Sep 2015 02:03:57
Redohio, we sold LS for a kings ransom but gave the loot to the court jester. So it's working out as expected!

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29 Sep 2015 08:52:01
We already are a selling club, Coutinho won't change that.

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29 Sep 2015 11:54:40
Liverpool are no more a selling club than any other. We just are not a top club. That is the difference. We don't win enough and struggle for a Champions League Spot. Players won't wait for ever. that's just reality.

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30 Sep 2015 19:34:46
Firmino was bought as phils replacement we are a selling club every player has his price and most would go because they can't see LFC improving under Rogers

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28 Sep 2015 16:29:37
I read down the page that Sturridge is surplus to requirements at LFC. I don't usually post negative things about our club but if this is true then I give up with LFC

Lose Xabi get aqua
lose reina get migs
lose agger get lovren
lose torres get carrol
lose suarez get balo
lose gerrard get milner
lose Kenny get BR

We are replacing great with average, Not slagging anybody off but its true. Yes we are improving the stadium but its a decade late, Same with sponsors. Are transfers are a joke from DOF camolli to BR making decisions to transfer comitee to whatever it is now. I have no qualms with fsg but they have no structure in place to see gradual and continued improvement/sucsess. They way things stand at the moment mid-table team seems abit of a compliment to be honest.

Believable25 Unbelievable2

28 Sep 2015 16:56:17
Chin up lad, I don't think it's written in stone, seems to be Ed002's opinion rather than solid information. Doesn't mean he's definitely leaving. Although I do tend to take Ed002's opinions as gospel so can't say I'm not a little worried myself

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{Ed002's Note - Nobody said he was definitely leaving.}

28 Sep 2015 17:03:29
Sturridge surplus to requirements ?
And you even think about believing it ?
Strewth. .

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28 Sep 2015 18:39:11
Sturridge will be with the club for along time hopefully, Origi is more than likely to be sent out on loan.

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28 Sep 2015 21:04:46
I can believe it. Always injured

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29 Sep 2015 00:13:26
Nobody said that.

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29 Sep 2015 08:34:23
He's recently signed a new contract

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