Liverpool Rumours Archive April 25 2018

25 Apr 2018 13:45:01
Eds, would we have any interest in shaqiri? I think he'd be a good option to come off the bench and think mane could definitely use the competition. We'd probably be able to get him cheap as well since Stoke are likely going down. Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - no. He wouldn't move to sit on the bench, he won't play the team game, has attitude problems with the rest of his team slagging them off constantly to the Swiss press and is not good enough to get anywhere near the team.}

25 Apr 2018 14:36:39
What did you think when we signed mane and salah. Did they work as hard for their teams as they do now? The answer would be no. There's no reason to think shaqiri couldn't be the same. He wouldn't have to sit on the bench every game and if he proves himself he could usurp mane in the starting line up if mane can't get back to the sort of form he was in last season.

25 Apr 2018 14:41:22
we need to stay clear of mediocre players, klopp is building something very special, let's not ruin that.

25 Apr 2018 14:59:05
NotInTheKnow mate, Mane was a beast at Salzburg and at Southampton I have no idea who you were watching. He scored one of the fastest hat tricks in premier league history. Salah was killing on a mediocre team at Fiorentina then at Roma. They have flourished in a system that plays them better.

Let's just say for the "cheap" we sign Shaqiri, the guy is not that good first of all, but let's say we give him a shot. He comes in does not play because Mane and Salah are first choice. He then starts to bad mouth the team to the media causing unrest in the locker room and screws up the team chemistry. Now we have a player who will not being played and sent home in wages. Why don't we just sign Sturridge to an extension while we are at it, it would be the same as pissing away money on Shaqiri. We see these players for 90 minutes a week and we think we know what they are like. The guy went from Bayern, Inter now at Stoke. If he was that good and didn't have issues other teams would have not given him a look. West Ham has been signing everyone under the sun they stayed away from him.

25 Apr 2018 16:31:54
Mediocre is a compliment to Shaqiri, he's somehow even lazier than Balotelli which really says it all.

25 Apr 2018 17:35:26
NotIntheKnow, your username says it all I'm afraid, wanting a player like HIM? seriously mate? and then bringing up Mane and Salah's work rate to compare, you have to be joking me?

What get's me about your second post is you completely ignored what Ed1 had said regarding his attitude, is that not an issue to you? you would still want to sign him, regardless of how much of an idiot he is?

I have an idea, let's go sign Balotelli and Sakho again shall we. For once in a long time we are free of fools like them, before Balotelli it was Suarez, we went on a long run with fools disrespecting the image of the club, we don't need more.

25 Apr 2018 18:42:48
I'd feel a lot better if it was Shaqiri or Mane coming off the bench to make an impact next season instead of Lallana, Solanke, Ings etc. I know he's been saying to the press in recent weeks about the players at Stoke not being good enough or something along those lines, but he's not wrong is he? He's the only one who looks like he can make something happen for them all season and it's almost been up to him to try and save them in matches. Alongside better players I think still think he'd be a good option.

{Ed001's Note - he won't come off the bench. You aren't reading what I said. He is an arrogant arse who thinks he is too good to sit on a bench, even though he is not that good. Certainly not even half the player he thinks he is.}

25 Apr 2018 18:57:48
Ok ed if his attitude really is that bad then i'll just have to take your word because it would only be detrimental to team morale so wouldn't be worth it.

{Ed001's Note - he has a habit of playing up, went AWOL in the past and stuff.}

25 Apr 2018 20:06:01
There are two chances of Klopp being interested in Shaqiri :
Sod all and even less.

26 Apr 2018 00:56:55
You want to know about his attitude and opinion of himself. Go YouTube the press conference from the Euros after he scored that bicycle kick goal against Poland. The reporter asked him something to the effect was it his best goal he scored. Shaqiri responded I always score great goals. God know what he was talking about because I have rarely to never seen him score "great" goals. The guy thinks he is a lot better than he is.

With these foreign players watch the press conferences they give to reporters from their own countries. The arrogance really pours through, maybe because they speak their native tongue and have the vocabulary to be dicks.

26 Apr 2018 08:18:42
In regards to what you wrote "if mane can't get back to the sort of form he was in last season. "

Someone correct me if i'm wrong, someone may even have the stats but isn't Mane having a better season than last? More goals/ assists?

Cheers!

26 Apr 2018 08:41:56
J Taylor - more goals, assists, chances created, successful passes, shots on target - just about everything you can measure better than last season.

{Ed001's Note - I think Mane has been magnificent over the last few weeks personally. He has been instrumental to the team. I didn't realise the stats also bore that out though.}

26 Apr 2018 08:47:43
Mane this season; 18 goals and 9 assists.

Mane last season; 13 goals and 6 assists.

He is blitzing his record last season. It is a total myth he is having a bad year. Salah is just making him look bad. In any other season since 13/ 14 Mane would be our top scorer.

26 Apr 2018 08:59:21
Mane is having a great season.

This perception about him having a worse season than last year is because Salah is the main man. Last year he was Mane.

People forget at the start of the season Salah was missing a lot of big chances and it was Mane who was scoring the important goals.

26 Apr 2018 12:11:03
I think it's high time people started realising how good our team actually is up front. Forget attitude if you don't know what the players are like and focus on talent alone - players like Shaquiri, Arnautovic, Richardlinson, Redmond, Boufal etc are not the players a level down that might be happy to come in and try to compete. They are players that would never get to play unless we have a crisis.

They are players that would need to be showing their best games consistent at 20-21 years old to have a realistic hope of ever matching our guys or pushing them for their spots. Players like Draxler, Douglas Costa, Brandt and Lemar are the standard we need to look at now if we want next season to continue to improve on this one. I'll back whoever Klopp signs until he gives me a good reason not to (Caulker aside, everyone he's signed has worked to some extent) but the players who pop up with something impressive every half a season for MOTD are no longer what we should be looking at.

26 Apr 2018 13:17:03
Long time scowler, rarely a poster.
Keep up the good work etc.

I have had to comment. Shaqiri to Liverpool instead of Lallana is possibly the worst call I have heard since Neville Chamberlain came back from Berlin and said "I have in my hand. ".

It completely misrepresents the kind of player Shaqiri is and undervalues Lallana who is a top quality player. He has been unlucky with injuries but he is a player who was heavily leaned on by Klopp.

27 Apr 2018 12:41:48
Hi eds is there any interest on dembelle from spurs as he is in last year of his contract and supposedly available for 20million . Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - no.}

25 Apr 2018 06:55:46
Hi eds. do you know when Lallana it due back. After the injury to the ox we need him ASAP. ?

{Ed001's Note - he is not expected back this season, unless we make the final in which case he could possibly make it. Not sure we 'need' him, good player as he is, we have not missed him at all this season and look better without him. He does not fit the way we play any more.}

25 Apr 2018 07:06:41
Ok thanks eds
Maybe time for him to move on then.

25 Apr 2018 07:46:10
I think we are all panicking over Midfield options ed mate. what's your thoughts? We have 3 fit options only now. Anyone from U21 or U23 that might be drafted in?

{Ed001's Note - maybe time to give Trent a run in his natural position?}

25 Apr 2018 08:14:07
Be a good chance against stoke at the weekend maybe and play Gomez at rb.

25 Apr 2018 08:19:41
Good shout Ed to be fair. Gomez back to RB. Hendo probably needs a rest? Can you think of any youngsters he might call on or should the 3 senior fit CMs be able to play all remaining games in your opinion?

{Ed001's Note - there is plenty of rest after next week's game. So they should be enough. If not maybe we could give Williams a chance, at 22 he needs to get a game or two just to see if he is capable of raising his game. You only know for sure when they get a go. Sometimes a kid can stand out a mile but then shrink mentally and fail miserably in the adult game. Other kids look average in youth football but they get a lucky break and suddenly grow as players to look like they belong there. It really shouldn't be an issue to cope for 4 games with the three we have and then they get two weeks to rest before the final (hopefully).}

25 Apr 2018 08:28:14
Just made a post on another thread saying the same ed, I think it is time to push him up to the midfield, let's see how he handles it, I think he'll do really well plus there's no better time then now.

25 Apr 2018 08:40:46
Cheers ed. You make so much sense. I would have far less stress and grey hairs if I could talk to you everytime I get a little flustered or concerned in life lol. Have a good day mate.

{Ed001's Note - I would say that is the good thing about getting older that you get less flustered but me ma is blooming ancient and she still gets overly stressed about every little thing.}

25 Apr 2018 08:44:43
In terms of having enough in the tank it shouldn't be a problem Ed001. But we are also one errant kick from not having enough fit midfielders for the biggest game of the decade.

{Ed001's Note - then you give a youngster a chance and you never know you might unearth a future star. If we aren't going to give them a chance when injuries strike because of panicky fans we may as well scrap the academy altogether.}

25 Apr 2018 09:09:43
I’d like to see Hendo, Gini and Woodburn against Stoke and maybe Milner coming on last 30mins to rest Hendo for a bit.

We need TAA’s delivery from out wide against Stoke IMO.

25 Apr 2018 10:42:31
Fully agree ed001, but I'm dissapointed that we have to give them a chance now. I questioned at the time, and continue to question, why they are not as a rule present in every match day squad so they could have gotten some chances in a few of the 16 (yes that's right, 16) games this season where we have won by 3 or more goals? It does get annoying finding ourselves repeatedly unprepared for this.

{Ed001's Note - I expect the Prem will follow Serie A's lead and increase the number of subs available soon enough. Serie A did it because they wanted to help the Italian national side by giving youngsters more chances in the first team. Whether it would actually do that or not is arguable but it would certainly mean managers would have no excuse for not giving kids a chance. Though it would probably just see Guardiola demand another half billion to spend to fill the bench with expensive first team players....}

25 Apr 2018 13:07:47
Ed001 do you know has Jordan Williams been training with the 1st team? I know he played a bunch of games for Rochdale, but not since October and he hasn't been playing for the U23s. I'd imagine it's more likely Gini will play as the deep mid and one or two of Woodburn/ Jones/ Kane could get a start. I know they're younger but age doesn't seem to be a factor for Klopp if you're good enough.

{Ed001's Note - a lot of the young uns train with the first team and it swaps about, to get them used to being with the group.}

25 Apr 2018 20:54:55
Jordan Williams is currently on loan at Rochdale so I imagine he wouldn’t be an option unless recall was an option.

{Ed002's Note - Of course not.}

26 Apr 2018 09:06:41
No Gordo, it was only a loan until January, but he suffered a knee injury at the end of October and hasn't kicked a football since.

26 Apr 2018 12:16:15
SGRED, I’d argue that Trent’s positioning would still find him out wide when playing RCM, just look at the positions Milner and the Ox take up throughout a game. Means he still gets to put in killer deliveries but also experience a game in midfield at the highest level. Also means if we play Gomez at RB that we can shift to a 3-4-3 when needed without having to bring an extra centre back on like we have been lately.
Cheers (3rd attempt at this post)

26 Apr 2018 12:17:51
Gordo - I believe his loan finished back in Jan. I just checked the Rochdale website and there is no mention of him (although they do have a Jordan Williams out on loan to Lincoln which threw me for a tick) . But he isn't injured AFAIK so Im guessing he needs to work harder to convince Critchley because he isn't getting into the U23 atm.