Liverpool Rumours Archive September 24 2010
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24 Sep 2010 23:02:41
Roy has identified the reason why we are so poor and that is sammy Lee, so roy has recommended he .(lee) be sacked so to save his own skin
24 Sep 2010 22:50:47
Liverpool to sign Cavani, Gomez, and Marin.
Source: Match Magazine.
Don't read this magazine, according to them Oprah's probably a target for Arsenal
24 Sep 2010 22:17:13
Liverpool to sign Palermo Forward Edison Cavani who is currently on loan with Napoli
for a fee of 10million pounds
LFC 4 Life
24 Sep 2010 21:54:21
Would Torres become that same figure should he leave? . . .YES! Why?, because his attitude at the moment is a disgrace to the shirt. He may be one of the most prolific goal-scorers we have had in recent times, but his current appraoch is nothing like the Torres we know. How can he use lack of investment in quality as a reason for being unsettled when he is one of the main culprits? If he isn't playing well, he isn't interested. If he gets kicked, he doesn't like it and if a game doesn't take his fancy, he decides he is injured. I have lost a lot of respect for Torres and patience is wearing thin. Should he decide to leave, his memory (for me anyway) will be of a moaning little wimp rather than a top-class striker
I was discussing Torres at work today and i completely agree with you, his attitude stinks. If he had the attitude and determination of Tevez he would be amazing, as it stands if jan comes round and 40-50 mil is offered i will not be dis-pleased if he goes, we can get two strikers who would bleed to play for our club!
BEL OR UNBEL?
24 Sep 2010 21:28:26
24 Sep 2010 21:14:03
First time poster.heard from a good sauce today that kenny huang hasn't gone away, he's currently at an advanced stage of buying gillet's half then after the deadline sorting hick's half out with rbs if he doesn't sell to him before .
THESHANKLEYWAY
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You "heard from a good sauce"
HP or Heinz? lol
Blair Mayne YNW
24 Sep 2010 21:14:03
First time poster.heard from a good sauce today that kenny huang hasn't gone away, he's currently at an advanced stage of buying gillet's half then after the deadline sorting hick's half out with rbs if he doesn't sell to him before .
THESHANKLEYWAY
24 Sep 2010 21:13:36
Direct from Wall Street Journal:
In the old days, English soccer hooligans settled scores with knives and broken bottles. As Texas billionaire Tom Hicks is learning this week, the weapons of choice these days-camera phones, Twitter and spam emails-can be almost as scary.
Adam Eljarrah, top, was able to greet the team's owner with an angry poster in New York via a global fan network including Alan Kayll in Liverpool, bottom.
Keith Bedford for The Wall Street Journal
Liverpool fan Adam Eljarrah
Thomas Kavanagh
Alan Kayll in Liverpool
Mr. Hicks, co-owner of England's hallowed Liverpool FC, is on the run from a mob of angry fans who blame him for the team's tailspin. The 118-year-old club was one of England's best when he bought it in 2007. Since then, the crippling debt load he took on to buy Liverpool has strained the team's finances and contributed to its woes on the pitch.
Now, Liverpool faithful are waging a fierce campaign to evict the American owner. Their strategy: Scare away banks and other financiers who might throw Mr. Hicks a lifeline, starving Mr. Hicks of needed cash and forcing him to sell. To do that, they are using the tools of the digital age to track Mr. Hicks' efforts to drum up money, then bombard would-be lenders with thousands of irate emails, phone calls and Tweets.
On Tuesday afternoon, Mr. Hicks learned firsthand what it's like to be the prey in a digital hunt.
Around 3:40 p.m., as Mr. Hicks sat on a sidewalk bench in midtown Manhattan, he was spotted by Liverpool native Paul Wilson. It occurred to Mr. Wilson, a 35-year-old financial consultant, that the offices of Deutsche Bank AG and J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. were on the same street. He guessed that Mr. Hicks and his son, Tom Hicks Jr., might be visiting the banks to plead for funds.
So Mr. Wilson whipped out his BlackBerry, snapped some photos, and zapped the images to his wife, Erin McCloskey. Then he trailed Mr. Hicks walking into the lobby of the building that houses Deutsche.
"I didn't throw my coffee on him, but the thought did cross my mind, " Mr. Wilson said Wednesday.
Ms. McCloskey quickly posted the photos on Twitter and explained the circumstances.
Over in Liverpool, the Hicks sighting was like an open-net goal for Alan Kayll, a 40-year-old cab driver who is a ringleader of the anti-Hicks campaign. Mr. Kayll quickly penned a form letter to J.P. Morgan and Deutsche officials urging them not to help Mr. Hicks refinance roughly £200 million ($313 million) that is owed to Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC, stemming from his purchase of the team.
"If you join Tom Hicks in raping and pillaging Liverpool Football Club, then you will be making a very powerful enemy, " his letter read in part. "You are facing an energized, well-informed mass of Liverpool fans from around the world."
He posted the letter online, along with the email addresses of executives at Deutsche and J.P. Morgan.
An hour later, a senior J.P. Morgan executive had already received 30 emails from Liverpool fans, with new messages landing every few minutes. "It's totally viral right now, " the executive said, deleting emails as they arrived. Public-relations staff at Deutsche said they received hundreds.
Neither bank is in talks with Mr. Hicks, said people familiar with the situation. Through a spokesman, Mr. Hicks declined to comment on Tuesday's events or his stewardship of the team.
The team's financial woes have hurt its performance. Liverpool finished last season in seventh place, a disaster for fans accustomed to being in England's top four. A team official said this week that the cost of servicing its debts is depleting club resources. Fans argue that makes it tougher to recruit top players.
Meanwhile, in Manhattan on Tuesday afternoon, the melee was just beginning. Adam Eljarrah, an 18-year-old Liverpool fan attending New York University, saw Ms. McCloskey's Twitter messages. He showed up outside Deutsche's skyscraper on Park Avenue. The pre-med freshman carried a poster, popular among Liverpool supporters in England, declaring that Mr. Hicks and his co-owner are "Not Welcome ANYWHERE."
Mr. Eljarrah says he loitered outside the building for about 45 minutes, hoping to confront Mr. Hicks. Around 6:30 p.m., Mr. Hicks emerged. According to a person familiar with the incident, the younger Mr. Hicks spotted Mr. Eljarrah-identifiable in his red-and-white Liverpool scarf-and told a nearby cop: "This guy is trouble."
As the police officer intercepted Mr. Eljarrah, he says, he waved his sign and yelled, "Get out of our club!"
Liverpool fans aren't the only ones lashing out at American ownership. Manchester United fans have mounted a campaign against the family of American businessman Malcolm Glazer, which owns the team and has loaded it with debt.
In Liverpool, fans who are angling to remove Mr. Hicks are sporting scarves bearing a "Thanks But No Yank$!" slogan.
Lately, financial institutions have borne the brunt of Liverpool's rage. Fans have been flooding RBS with letters and phone calls urging the bank to seize the club and give Mr. Hicks the boot. Top executives' inboxes sometimes have been hit with several hundred emails per day.
A few weeks ago, some fans started a Facebook page encouraging people to boycott RBS. Mr. Kayll, the cab driver, drew up lists of financial institutions Mr. Hicks is believed to have approached, posting them on a website he helps run that urges fans to help oust Mr. Hicks.
The site features an image of a blood-drenched RBS logo. The site's motto: "We will go as far as we need to."
Despite the site's menacing slogan and graphic, Mr. Kayll says his group is "totally against violence. We're a group of passionate fans trying to save their football club. All professional people with families."
The campaign hit Stephen Schwarzman, the billionaire co-founder of Blackstone Partners, whose GSO Capital Partners hedge fund considered participating in a deal to help Mr. Hicks refinance the RBS loan. By Monday, GSO had backed out of the talks. A Blackstone spokesman, Peter Rose, said the emails (including thousands aimed at Mr. Schwarzman) didn't affect GSO's decision not to participate in the deal.
That wasn't the message Mr. Kayll got. Driving his cab in Liverpool Tuesday morning, he says he received a call from London-based GSO executive Michael Whitman. Mr. Kayll says Mr. Whitman told him GSO lost interest in part thanks to the pressure campaign. "He said, 'We understand the passion of Liverpool supporters and obviously took that into consideration, '" Mr. Kayll says.
Mr. Whitman didn't respond to requests for comment. Blackstone acknowledges that Mr. Whitman and Mr. Kayll spoke, but deny he said the email campaign forced GSO out of the deal.
Still basking in victory hours later, Mr. Kayll was euphoric when the Hicks photos from New York dropped into his lap. He crowed: "We know his every move."
Had a good laugh reading it and thanks to fella for posting it.
Dirks Engine Room
24 Sep 2010 21:04:05
23 Sep 2010 23:34:51
My mate works for bbc sports team and has been told to go to anfield tomorrow morning for a news conference.
to the guy who said this^^^^^^^^^^^^
of course he was going to a news conference in the morning , they always have one the day before a game you dope duh!
24 Sep 2010 20:29:55
CHECHK OUT TODAYS WALL STREET JOURNAL HAPPY DAYS THE YANKS ARE FINISHED
24 Sep 2010 19:49:43
LFC fans opposition to Hicks and Gilletts refinancing efforts is all over the Wall Street Times. No bank in their right minds would touch them with a barge pole now.
Snoopy Max
24 Sep 2010 18:58:58
Gerrard to tottenham ha ha ha good one.
has it always been this way or is it that i'm just starting to notice it. lets go back over the last few months:
gerrard to real madrid, torres to man city, torres to barca, mascherano to inter, babel to go anywere, then masch to barca ( ok al give you that 1 ), reina to arsenal, torres to chelsea and now gerrard to spurs. have i missed any lies out.
ed has it always been this bad
always a red {ed's note - always mate.}
24 Sep 2010 18:36:38
ED who supports LFC can you see us doing a Leeds? {ed's note - no, we are not in the same position as them at all. The club is in good shape, apart from the owners and the debt they have laden on the club. Once they are removed, either through a sale or the banks taking over, we will be ok I believe.}
24 Sep 2010 18:32:41
(ED DO U KNOW THERE EMAIL ADDRESSES {ed's note - no, sorry I don't.} THX ED GREAT SITE YNWA
24 Sep 2010 18:24:48
Just a sugestion instead of emailing the banks not to refinance Hicks why email Sheigh Khalifa and Sheigh Maktoum to buy the club and take it back to the glory days again.Both has shown interest and they are Liverpool fans (ED DO U KNOW THERE EMAIL ADDRESSES {ed's note - no, sorry I don't.}
24 Sep 2010 17:50:29
Liverpool will sign 2 players in January, a striker and an attacking midfielder/ winger.
The striker will be either Mario Gomez or Roman Pavlyuchenko.
The midfielder will be one of Marko Marin, Xheran Shaqiri, Keisuke Honda and Giovanni dos Santos.
We will sell a few as Roy said the squad still needs trimming. These unlucky players will probably be Maxi, Krygiakos, Lucas (even though he is better than Poulsen) and maybe Babel if he fails to impress.
I hope we buy Gomez (although Pavlyuchenko would still be a step forward) and any of the midfielders except dos Santos- but preferably Marin.
24 Sep 2010 17:44:24
Just a sugestion instead of emailing the banks not to refinance Hicks why email Sheigh Khalifa and Sheigh Maktoum to buy the club and take it back to the glory days again.Both has shown interest and they are Liverpool fans. Great site Ed thanks Zorro
24 Sep 2010 14:48:02
I had heard a rumour and now i have been told of the rumour, spurs are to offer £18mill for gerrard the worst part about the rumour is that he is discussing the matter over with alex! !
24 Sep 2010 14:37:50
As I understand it the loans need to be payed no later than the 6 th October close of day. hope that's right psv elnino
24 Sep 2010 14:16:16
From Robert Peston on BBC
With the 15 October deadline looming for Royal Bank of Scotland, Liverpool's main creditor, to decide whether to take control of the club, most bidders would surely prefer to wait for the fire sale.
Which is why it looks increasingly likely that Liverpool will - before too long - be the property of Royal Bank of Scotland and the US bank Wachovia (which provided around 25% of the bank debt).
There remain big imponderables, however.
One is whether Royal Bank of Scotland can take control without the business falling into administration - which would lead to a nine-point deduction for Liverpool to its Premier League tally (and, right now, would leave it with an interesting minus four points, which is a bit surreal).
Jeez can this really happen?
24 Sep 2010 14:03:11
Just hear liverpool to sign Mr Messi & if hes a hit were going for Mr Bump & Mr Silly.
24 Sep 2010 13:38:33
Someone please tell me when the deadline is, 6th or 15th? i need to arrange a party to celebrate
24 Sep 2010 12:41:43
ED: Grt site, am a relative newcomer (6 months of keeping an eye on here).iv just read on the BBC site the dates of between the 6th and 15th october being touted !
is this already a 9 day extension by RBS to H&G to secure ?
Also G has been very quiet (as someone else pointed out) now its well documented this guy is a gambler, is he using a classic bluffing trick and will crawl out of his little hole right at the last minute and throw in a right curveball? .
my own little view on this whole business is there seems to be way too many fingers in this pie for it to all happen quickly and smoothly, as purslow states "diligence isn't done for fun", H&G has LFC tied into so many offshore, seperate holdings that for due diligence to be done correctly(and if you spending hundreds of millions you would !) the process will take time.
Now either RBS know this (hence reason for the 15th now being touted), or H or G has secured funds, and again as a figure you can say it pretty quickly, but too actually have control of those funds, doesnt happen overnight, so RBS have extended the deadline to allow them to be raised.
And while takeover rumours have hit us for a while now, the day to day running of the club is well documented as "commercially sound", but profit is dissapearing to repay loans.As a result this is the reason H&G values us at £600m- £800m, with the likes of Real, Barca, Mancs.because commercially we are a global commodity, evryone knows this, and with development of new ground, complex we could grow even more commercially.All this is taken into account, we are not just "LFC" anymore we are a brand, and a popular brand, lets just hope that whoever takes control of our great club, has the brains to realise, while we are a brand, we are a football club first. {ed's note - G is quiet because it is the way he likes to operate. He has already had his attempt to refinance rebuffed and he, to the best of my knowledge, has accepted defeat. H is still trying, but without any success whatsoever, to refinance, but it seems likely, in fact almost certain, that no one will loan him the necessary money he needs to, not just pay his half, but to buyout G as well. RBS seem to think they are too much of a risk to allow them to continue to borrow money from them. It is most likely that they are just giving more time for the sales process to at least be properly started, it seems they are waiting on the results of due diligence.}
24 Sep 2010 12:40:25
Just read in the Beano that Messi will sign for Liverpool in January!
24 Sep 2010 12:39:48
24 Sep 2010 12:22:07
Torres is reportedly disgruntled at the Reds' manager's failure to bring in any more big-name signings since Joe Cole's arrival on a free transfer.
The signing of the ex-Chelsea star was thought to have been a watershed moment for the club in outbidding rival suitors Arsenal and Tottenham, with reports at the time claiming Cole had been offered £90,000 a week over four years at Anfield.
Shortly afterwards, Torres spoke out to commit his future to Liverpool - despite speculation that Manchester City and Chelsea were both preparing to break their transfer records to sign the Spanish international.
But the former Atletico Madrid striker is said to have had a rethink, with the Daily Star claiming he will demand to leave when the transfer window reopens.
Torres' form has been poor so far this season, with several factors - from exhaustion after the World Cup to fears of picking up more injuries - being blamed for his disappointing showings.
And it is said the 26-year-old believes a move away from Liverpool - where concerns over the club's financial position are overshadowing the team's performances - could rejuvenate his flagging club career.
cheers for the heads up ed. Been reading your site for the last 3 months now without posting, biting my tongue!
Bennyboy
24 Sep 2010 12:33:09
24 Sep 2010 12:22:07
Torres is reportedly disgruntled at the Reds' manager's failure to bring in any more big-name signings since Joe Cole's arrival on a free transfer.
The signing of the ex-Chelsea star was thought to have been a watershed moment for the club in outbidding rival suitors Arsenal and Tottenham, with reports at the time claiming Cole had been offered £90,000 a week over four years at Anfield.
Shortly afterwards, Torres spoke out to commit his future to Liverpool - despite speculation that Manchester City and Chelsea were both preparing to break their transfer records to sign the Spanish international.
But the former Atletico Madrid striker is said to have had a rethink, with the Daily Star claiming he will demand to leave when the transfer window reopens.
Torres' form has been poor so far this season, with several factors - from exhaustion after the World Cup to fears of picking up more injuries - being blamed for his disappointing showings.
And it is said the 26-year-old believes a move away from Liverpool - where concerns over the club's financial position are overshadowing the team's performances - could rejuvenate his flagging club career.
WELL IF ITS IN THE DAILY STAR IT MUST BE TRUE.PRICELESS!
24 Sep 2010 12:22:07
Torres is reportedly disgruntled at the Reds' manager's failure to bring in any more big-name signings since Joe Cole's arrival on a free transfer.
The signing of the ex-Chelsea star was thought to have been a watershed moment for the club in outbidding rival suitors Arsenal and Tottenham, with reports at the time claiming Cole had been offered £90,000 a week over four years at Anfield.
Shortly afterwards, Torres spoke out to commit his future to Liverpool - despite speculation that Manchester City and Chelsea were both preparing to break their transfer records to sign the Spanish international.
But the former Atletico Madrid striker is said to have had a rethink, with the Daily Star claiming he will demand to leave when the transfer window reopens.
Torres' form has been poor so far this season, with several factors - from exhaustion after the World Cup to fears of picking up more injuries - being blamed for his disappointing showings.
And it is said the 26-year-old believes a move away from Liverpool - where concerns over the club's financial position are overshadowing the team's performances - could rejuvenate his flagging club career.
24 Sep 2010 12:20:23
24 Sep 2010 11:47:46
Its done deal - Bank Rakyat offered amount that Hicks asking. Press confrence will be called soon
Complete and utter boll0cks
YOU ARE SO RIGHT.
24 Sep 2010 12:19:42
If hicks can't get and money from the banks he will use some of his own money ( hes worth over 1 billion) and will selll liverpools best players in january to regain his money.
24 Sep 2010 12:19:42
We will be sold by the end of October. Then all of the southern mafia poking fun at our current plight will be laughing on the other sides of their faces, trust me. The cleverest and most canny of buyers only purchase when something hits its lowest value, this will become apparent in the first week of October. Our new owners are certainly smart and have waited and waited until the very last moment. . .have faith fellow Redmen, the new dawn is about to break. . . . .I will update more when I can! GET BEHIND THE TEAM FOR TOMORROW, never ever forget we are FANS and our job is to SUPPORT the club. REMEMBER. . .
When you walk through a storm
Hold your head up high
And don't be afraid of the dark
At the end of the storm
Is a golden sky
And the sweet silver song of the lark
Walk on through the wind
Walk on through the rain
Though your dreams be tossed and blown
Walk on walk on with hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone
You'll never walk alone!
24 Sep 2010 11:47:46
Its done deal - Bank Rakyat offered amount that Hicks asking. Press confrence will be called soon
Complete and utter boll0cks
24 Sep 2010 10:56:53
C'mon kets change the mood com jan we have money? who would you like and be realistic! we won't get any players from the top four from last term! so who do you think?
24 Sep 2010 10:20:23
With tom hicks running around trying to secure finance , what is he going to secure the loan on as we have been told the board won't allow it to be secured against the club ,
as for the other snake gillette where is he hes been very quiet for ages could he not be trying to get finance from somewhere? could someone give me some info on what these clowns are doing as we no they won't go quietley i think that one or both of them will still be here past october thoughts
24 Sep 2010 09:34:25
Its done deal - Bank Rakyat offered amount that Hicks asking. Press confrence will be called soon.
24 Sep 2010 08:53:57
On Sharkey's point, I agree. Personally Mascherano is a figure of hate. Would Torres become that same figure should he leave? . . .YES! Why?, because his attitude at the moment is a disgrace to the shirt. He may be one of the most prolific goal-scorers we have had in recent times, but his current appraoch is nothing like the Torres we know. How can he use lack of investment in quality as a reason for being unsettled when he is one of the main culprits? If he isn't playing well, he isn't interested. If he gets kicked, he doesn't like it and if a game doesn't take his fancy, he decides he is injured. I have lost a lot of respect for Torres and patience is wearing thin. Should he decide to leave, his memory (for me anyway) will be of a moaning little wimp rather than a top-class striker!
On Hodgson, part of me thinks we may be better off still having had Benitez in charge, even if the only reason is that we wouldn't have Konchesky at the club. The boy is totally useless. Didn't think we could do worse than Insua. .but somehow we managed it! Meireles and Cole are positives but other than that, our conservative, defensive style under Benitez has been replaced by another bland and one-dimensional, long-ball routine from Hodgson. Not only does it not yield results, it's also painfully boring to watch. At least when Blackpool get beat, they go down having had a go. Liverpool recently have been dying without a fight. Even when we came back from 2-0 against Utd, not many people I have spoken to actually thought we had a chance of holding on to even a point. . and so it proved!
Not suggesting anything hasty need be done in terms of manager but I'm not sure, should investment and funds come in, that Hodgson has the qualities needed to use it wisely. For me, the problem at Liverpool is that we have become a mid-table team with generations of fans who have grown accustomed to success. Points away at Brum (as another post pointed out) is simply not an acceptable result, at least for the Liverpool of old. Maybe though, this is what we have to accept as the limit of our abilities in the future.
PACMAN
24 Sep 2010 08:49:30
Www.savelfc.org
24 Sep 2010 08:31:46
In response to:
23 Sep 2010 23:34:51
My mate works for bbc sports team and has been told to go to anfield tomorrow morning for a news conference.
I'm pretty sure you'll find there's always a press conference prior to a match, so as we're playing Sunderland on Saturday this will be what the press conference is for.
In the meantime, I'm as addicted as anyone else out there to reading this site for stories of possible happenings to our beloved club, but to be perfectly honest i'm getting a little pi*led off reading over the same old stuff. So called fans slagging off players, managers and staff. So called fans who apparently know exactly what is going on behind the scenes with regards to the take over.
The bottom line is, no-one knows what's going on behind the scenes, apart from the obvious board members and the interested parties. I doubt very much whether SG or FT even know whats going on so why on earth would any fan have more knowledge of what's going on than persons within the club itself.
The RBS deadline is approaching fast and I think we should all just wait and see what happens as appose to all this speculation. I'm not saying we shouldn't have our own views, and some of those views make very interesting reading, all I'm saying is that none of us have any idea what the final outcome will be. We need to allow Purslow and Broughton to do the jobs they're being PAID for (which is to sell the club to the investors which will suit LFC's future security), and once there job is complete that long awaited announcement will be made.
THEN, and only then do any of us really have any substance to be able to speculate on future signings etc.
I think at this moment, we should all be putting our efforts into something far more important than "what if's" and "when this happens", and that is SUPPORTING our team. The atmosphere at Anfield at the moment is appalling in comparision to what I remember it years ago. And from past experience we all know that when Anfield is a vocal intimidating place that the team is pretty ruthless on the field.
So why don't we all start getting behind the team we have NOW (afterall, it's the team we're going to have for the rest of the season, bar a few possible changes come January), and maybe that team will start performing like we all want them to.
So, enough of the slagging off and the supposed "I know what will happen next week, next jan etc" and start getting behind the team you all "say you support", because in my opinion, some of the comments that I read on hear aren't those of true LFC fans.
IRWT
24 Sep 2010 08:28:28
Hi can anyone tell me whether D-day is October 6th or October 15th? Can't wait. . .
LFC supporter from Kenya
24 Sep 2010 08:16:47
It's interesting seeing fans complain over the current squad and blaming Rafa or Roy for the current squad situation.
I think we have to look a bit further back and consider some points:
1. 2008 - 2009 - January, Robbie Keane sold - no one brought in - we are rumoured to receive 12-15m.
2. 2009 - 2010 - Summer 2009, just finished second and we have approx 7 players leave and 3 brought in - appox net spend £0m.
3. 2009 - 2010 - January, Dossena & Vorinin leave for approx £6.5m and Maxi brought in on a free (prob cost us a £1.5m signing on fee though).
4. 2010 - 2011 - Summer - at least 5 players sold for approx £32m + at least 4 high earners gone on loan unlikely to return. 7 players brought in for approx £22m (+ likely signing on feews for J Cole & Jovanivic).
From the above two things appear clear that the first team squad size has been reducing for two years and theres about a £25m transfer surplus also we used to get £20m net tranfer spend each year on new players regardless. So had that still been the case we may have had £65m (obviously i'm not close enough to know what agent's fee's are which need to be considered) to spend on new players over this time.
So in terms of whose fault it is I can't blame either as both have been working under constraints.
But theres a But. .
Purslow said we got 95% of our transfer targets this year, I'll assume that a Striker is the missing 5% as its documented that we were after one.
So I would ask why Roy bought 3 CM's (Meireless, Poulson and J Cole) and then didn't consider any wide players especially as when we have a fully fit squad we play Jovanivic and Kuyt out wide who are really strikers.
Yes I'll give Roy time and I'll support the team regardless but I think he's been naive in the transfer market and needs to understand that regardless what's happened over the last 22 years we still expect to be 1st; it's acceptable to go to Barcelona and be happy with a point not Birmingham!
Hoola
24 Sep 2010 08:06:34
I said it about 5 times over the summer that our back 4 was no good and none of them would make the starting eleven of any of the top 10 teams in world football. do u all see this now!, , all you lot went on about all summer was signing strikers, wingers and midfielders but 2 me quite obviously our biggest problem over the past 4 or so years was the defence and iv bin proven right again. if i was 2 dust off my boots i would skin the lot of them and it hurts me 2 think that.
24 Sep 2010 07:55:02
Just heard m o neil to replace grandad woy fact
24 Sep 2010 03:13:46
An interesting scenario is emerging regarding Fernando Torres. Reportedly not too happy that the club have let him down by not buying some players who were up to his standards, his agents/ representatives are again doing the rounds to see if somebody is interested in making Liverpool an attractive offer in January. So a question. All other players who hint at leaving or actually leave Liverpool become instant hate figures to the fans - rather like the owners and the coach. Mascherano and Kuyt are prime examples. Players who don't perform to the highest level consistently also become hate figures for the fans - Babel and Lucas to name but two. So how will the fans react to a player, who is by no stretch of the imagination performing well, and also wishes to seek success elsewhere? A hate figure before the weekend's game?
Sharkey.
24 Sep 2010 02:56:03
Unsigned wrote at 24 Sep 2010 02:30:56:
"Look guys I posted yesterday that I would go down to Lloyds and try to sort this out. . . I did. . . they are happy to hear my proposal and have a meeting. . . but first with the in house business mgr and if that person thinks maybe it's plausible. . . . then they would set up a meeting with the corporate division. ED back me up on this one?? AND PLEASE POST THIS! ! THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR CLUB
The problem is not the banks. . . I know! ! I have been down there. . . the problem is US! I am just a very pissed off student in Brighton but heres the point when I first posted a couple of people commented on the hows and where fors so there are people on this site that know something about this s* t! ! There are thousands of people on this site that have experience in finance. .business. . shares etc? We need to stop talking and do some thing! ! ! ! ! I am fed up of talk talk talk people bitching, lets get off our f%@king arses and sort it. . . sod it. . .i'll do it. . like I did today but this time i'll arrange the god damn meeting!
If I do this. . .then please all of you back me up. . ."
I have to say that this is stuff of pipe dreams. There is absolutely zero chance of this going anywhere at all.
Sharkey.
24 Sep 2010 02:35:37
Sorry ED i never signed off on my last post about banks it's Tobey ;)
24 Sep 2010 02:30:56
REF:
24 Sep 2010 01:10:37
Unsigned threw up an encouraging post at 24 Sep 2010 01:02:51:
"(Firstly, you cannot be a trust and be floated on the stock market. Secondly, you cannot float a company for any amount that you like - a valuation has to be agreed. And the problem with a floatation of Liverpool is the value of the club. )
Im sure RBS could freeze the debit on the club, issue Debenture bonds for 400m to start building new 90'000 stadium for LFC that would secure the clubs future earnings frm casino, shopping complex, youth development + scouting ect. From the frozen debit money we could pay the reasonable Bond rates. (New Owner. philanthropist could do this)
Then RBS could float the whole lfc on London Stock Exchange for 700million and let the fans purchase a share in the club. 400m + 300 = 700m valuation.
(is certainly not something that RBS could or would do)
considering RBS is owned by the goverment, i believe they should have some kind of social responibility towards lfc. It can't all about getting your money asap. New Owners, philanthropist could do this for the club they loved. It can't all be about ownership
(problems would still remain about how to pay for a new stadium and how to pay for any new players. Effectively the club would need to pay for those matters from profits)
Well if LFC has a new 90'000 stadium build, casino, shopping complex. it will be able to substain itself as a business. Player purchases will be only those that the club can afford to purchase. Well clubs should live within their means.
Investing in youth + scouting and a policy of purchasing would secure the clubs future from reckless 100m player purchases.
(As soon as money was borrowed to pay for the stadium, the effective value of the stock holders' shares falls - but it would obviously come back over time. You would also find that large institutions would own the bulk of the shares and they will be against any borrowing that cannot be repaid in the short-term).
This would be the beauty of LFC being owned by share holders, pension funds. They hate risk and we would get ride of this culture of risky borrowing at lfc."
Good for you - and I really do hope it comes true. Perhaps a floatation for the future is a real option, and I think it is. The rest, perhaps over the longer term, but some how I doubt it. The neat thing is you are being positive - and I think that it what the club needs. A fresh outlook with the fans behind the coach and players. Get off this hate trip and maybe the team can sort themselves out.
Sharkey.
Look guys I posted yesterday that I would go down to Lloyds and try to sort this out. . . I did. . . they are happy to hear my proposal and have a meeting. . . but first with the in house business mgr and if that person thinks maybe it's plausible. . . . then they would set up a meeting with the corporate division. ED back me up on this one?? ? AND PLEASE POST THIS! ! ! THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR CLUB
The problem is not the banks. . . I know! ! ! I have been down there. . . the problem is US! ! I am just a very pissed off student in Brighton but heres the point when I first posted a couple of people commented on the hows and where fors so there are people on this site that know something about this s* t! ! ! There are thousands of people on this site that have experience in finance. .business. . shares etc? We need to stop talking and do some thing! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! I am fed up of talk talk talk people bitching, lets get off our f%@king arses and sort it. . . sod it. . .i'll do it. . like I did today but this time i'll arrange the god damn meeting! !
If I do this. . .then please all of you back me up. . .
24 Sep 2010 01:15:34
With this press conference taking place, (personally I don't believe it) but why does it have to do with management, could it not be something to do with ownership?
Purslow did say that parties were going through due diligence.
Just thinking out loud . .
24 Sep 2010 01:14:15
Beleiveble for Roy Hodgson
Unbeleiveble for Rafa Benitez
Im starting to wish we STILL had Rafa around anyone else.
24 Sep 2010 00:33:40
If the sheik gets controll as he wishes, his first job will be to To remove hodgson and replace him with a world class coach/ manager. The date for this to come to light will be oct 14th.