24 Aug 2015 21:02:58
Eds, is it true Lucas is still close to going to Besiktas despite him playing tonight?
{Ed002's Note - I think it less likely because of Henderson.}
24 Aug 2015 22:42:26
It looked a bit like a wave goodbye for me tonight but being the professional he is he would probably stay without making his grievances public if injuries dictate.
24 Aug 2015 22:59:23
I think it was him being appreciative of the support from the fans who know his worth!
24 Aug 2015 23:51:47
How long is Henderson out for? God I hope Lucas stays, him over Milner and that is a strong team, maybe bringing in ibe for can in home games against ''lesser' teams
{Ed002's Note - The club hasn't said.}
25 Aug 2015 00:19:07
I thought the same too Den82 but then Couts did the same thing when he was coming off!
I think a blind man could see how important Lucas is to the team. Great to see BR showing faith in Rossiter also in such a tough match!
25 Aug 2015 01:36:56
I hope he stays, BR`s pre-match comments suggests he will be staying but the wave to the fans seemed worrying, but hopefully it was appreciation
25 Aug 2015 03:17:29
There seems to me more sentiment about a very mediocre Lucas leaving than Gerrard ?
{Ed001's Note - a mediocre Lucas? Idiotic comment. Lucas is the only player we have at the club that has been shown to improve the results we get while he is in the side, over the results we get when he isn't. Gerrard at times, great player that he was (note the word was because it is a big factor), often stifled the team with his presence overawing others.}
25 Aug 2015 07:56:31
Great site but I would certainly suggest the words "in my opinion" we're used a little more often from all correspondents. We all have differing opinions, as shown above by Angus and Ed001 but they are opinions at the end of the day. People can think they idiotic, people can think they are sound but they are opinions nonetheless. Personally I like Lucas and I want him to stay and I don't believe him mediocre. Different player altogether but "in my opinion" Stevie has been the second best LFC player in my lifetime after King Kenny! In my opinion.
{Ed001's Note - sorry but what you gave was an opinion, calling Lucas mediocre is just idiocy. Mediocre players play non-league football.}
25 Aug 2015 08:12:14
Like I say I don't consider Lucas mediocre either. However, where mediocre sits on the scale-omiter of mediocracy is also an opinion really, much the same as the "he's not, or he is World Class" comments I keep hearing folk discuss. It is opinion, in my opinion.
{Ed001's Note - whatever, you are splitting pointless hairs in defence of an imbecile insulting a model professional.}
25 Aug 2015 09:03:56
Early rumors are that Henderson is out for a month.
25 Aug 2015 09:14:53
Ed1 do you see there's any chance of Lucas staying?
{Ed001's Note - yes, of course there is a chance, until the moment he signs elsewhere there is always a chance he will stay. He loves it at Liverpool, but he wants first team football.}
25 Aug 2015 09:31:25
I really hope he does, gives great balance to the side.
25 Aug 2015 09:48:41
I consider Allen mediocre!
25 Aug 2015 09:56:40
Would be a big loss to the team.
Stat's show we have better results when he is in the team AND we have a more balanced 11 with him than without.
Rodger's remarks before the game would suggest he rates him so not sure where this will go.
But for me he would be one of the LAST players to be selling.
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.
25 Aug 2015 12:17:56
Well for results what will you say about his contribution towards our 2013-14 season and he doesn't performs well enough when the opposition have the ball in our defending 3rd of the pitch
{Ed001's Note - his contribution? You mean that our results weren't worse without him? Hardly a reasonable instance to take, one season, when over his career he has shown that our results are massively better with him in the team. In 2013-4, a number of the games he missed were bankers, such as Norwich City, who were utterly woeful that season, and a couple of them were freak results, such as the smashing of Arsenal. Any statistical analyst will tell you that the larger the sample size you use, the closer to the truth you will find. In the case of a player that has been with us so long, there is plenty of data, only a fool would then suggest one anomalous season was in any way indicative of the real situation, rather than the data from his entire 8 season (I think) spell with us. As for he doesn't perform well enough, he is better than anyone else we have had in my lifetime at that role. The problem is that people are too busy watching the ball rather than the player, which is why so many don't rate Ozil.}
25 Aug 2015 13:12:19
I've previously said some negative remarka about Lucas in the past. Munching those words right now. He's essential in the big games.
25 Aug 2015 14:20:12
I think Lucas had a good game, broke up the play well and distributed quickly. Midfield looked more solid, especially in comparison to Hendo and Milner.
25 Aug 2015 18:28:40
Lucas is far from a mediocre player in my opinion, BR is far from a mediocre Coach and / or Manager in my opinion, yet does not stop folk formerly berating the man. It has quietened a bit but not before time. However I guess they are entitled to opinions of course like others have opinions too, even if we disagree.
26 Aug 2015 09:04:24
Are you this pretencious in real life BanteRed? My god, it must be tough for those in your life.
Just to make a point. If you say something, you're giving your opinion. If you write something on a message board, you're writing your opinion. There is zero reason to say the words 'in my opinion', pretty much ever. Of course its your opinion, you're the one giving it!
26 Aug 2015 16:08:18
Those trashing Lucas should go fly a kite with their worthless, myopic stats which are just that, worthless and myopic. Lucas is the best DM in the PL bar Matic, maybe and like Ed said, we barely lose nor concede when he plays and this can be proven over time. Picking games here and there to prove a point shows that you have no point to prove because your stats are nothing but isolated incidents. If Lucas is still being trashed after the solid perf on Mon, then your opinion is nothing but a baseless rant which has no basis nor evidence in reality.