Liverpool Rumours Archive September 23 2015

23 Sep 2015 15:50:56
Afternoon Eds and fellow Liverpool supporters {YNWA}, EdS with all the rumours about Brendan rogers Liverpool future position, if he were to be relieved of duties, in your opinion when will tis take place?

Thanks

{Ed002's Note - I understand from Macca that Ancelotti has been talking with the club. I don't know the detail. I also can't predict who would take his place. Over the summer the club could have opted for change and settled everything for a while by taking Jorge Jesus for a couple of years - probably my choice. Now that option is not available. One needs to step back and be objective about change and not make it just for "the hell of it" or whatever - it is a big deal and initially disrupting. I see the craving for the "bootroom" approach as unfounded. I see the clamoring for Klopp as "without any sensible foundation". I see any change to simply appease the fans as potentially a "shot in the foot". I would have moved him on this past summer - as I have explained. Then there were options. Doing it now i way more risky; way less options exist.

Blitzed a little but there are a number of managers with growing or well respected reputations I can think of. Normally I would avoid naming names but given that for most of the rest of the day the posts will end up on the Other page, as a special treat I will. One real standout right now is Italian Roberto Stellone and another is German Roger Schmidt. In France, both Willy Sagnol and Olivier Echouafni have growing reputations. Although over the limit age wise, Philippe Montanier is gaining a lot of respect. Spain, the stand out attracting attention is Diego Simeone. In Russia there are people expecting Murat Yakin to move on. The Netherlands has the likes of De Boer and Phillip Cocu. Elsewhere Laudrup, Petrescu, Hutter and Martinez are well thought of.

My advice is listen to those who have a rational opinion - not the knee jerk reaction folk. There are Liverpool supporting Eds trying to buy sniper rifles on eBay. It won't work. It needs managing, and it needs managing well, I have told Ed001 that he needs to listen to someone older and much better looking - and have offered my services.}

24 Sep 2015 02:21:53
Thanks for your reply, eds.

24 Sep 2015 05:50:22
I agree Ed. He should have been kicked out over the summer. Now we are in the predicament I new we would end up in. Rodgers not the answer, never was. Its a sinking ship ATM and nothing will change till Rodgers go's. But now our options are limited and we will prob end up with big Sam.

24 Sep 2015 06:24:43
Pmsl Ed great reply

24 Sep 2015 08:46:50
What about the ex-Monchengladbach manager?

24 Sep 2015 00:19:21
My choice would be Schmidt has done well in the last couple of seasons. But I think the owners will want to go for a proven coach after initially going for someone not proven in Europe. Rogers was never going to work it showed in his first season when tactically he was out of ideas and was alienating certain players. My hope is as ed02 has said that FSG take a rational approach and don't make the situation worse then it already is.

24 Sep 2015 03:08:02
Hi ed002,I've been a Liverpool fan for forty two years.I've seen the best of Liverpool and the worst in that time.I know you say about no knee jerk reaction, what springs to mind is Alex Ferguson at utd when he almost got the sack,ahh bless Mark Robbins!!!At utd at the time you could see what Ferguson was trying to do. I cannot see what Br is doing. AT ALL.in two years we have needed a better defense than we have,BR didn't strengthen in the summer and it's square pegs in round holes in midfield.surely when is enough ENOUGH.I know there's a snowballs chance in he'll of getting him but my choice. wait for it. GARY NEVILLE. I know.Thanks

24 Sep 2015 02:33:08
Great read ed002. I just had one question though, on the flip side of the story, when do you sack him? Wait longer in hope of results/performances to improve? and what if they dont? what if we are bottomg 10 come christmas? you sack him then? There is simply no evidence of any improvement; on the contrary its the same diabolical performances against increasingly weaker opposition every week.
To be perfectly honest, I believe the players themselves have a big responsibility in all this and it is not just Rodgers, but simply because I can't see a whole team falling out of form suddenly, it could only mean the manager is losing favor with the players.
So for me in the end it only leads to one thing - a big risk indeed but perhaps a risk worth taking? just my take on it

{Ed002's Note - As we are told that there have been discussions between Ancelotti and the club one can only assume that the decision has already been made. Under such circumstances the longer it drags out the more pressure there is on everyone and the more toxic the situation will become.}

24 Sep 2015 10:50:07
I actually think Neville has the capabilities of a great manager. Natural leader, great communicator, knows how to hold a room's attention, and has a wonderful technical insight into the game. He wouldn't use that insight to overcomplicate things though, he played under a manager who kept it relatively simple but effective.

24 Sep 2015 12:52:25
Whether or not neville would be good or not he would never manage Liverpool

24 Sep 2015 12:53:40
I would really like Ancelotti for the pure pedigree he has in football and won everywhere he has been, now i'm not saying he can do win the premiership in his first season with us or even his second and i won't expect him to, but if he is given the money rodgers has had over the seasons i can see him putting together a good solid foundation with the team but it could also see fan favorites go i.e lucas. Ed is right in the sense of that i can't see FSG going for a stab in the dark with a no mark and they will go for proven. Klopp seems to be the fans favourite but for me personally i would prefer ancelotti. or in a dream world of ancelotti manager klopp assistant lol

24 Sep 2015 10:37:50
Ed002, I'm quite surprised at how much you've gone along with this. I don't mean to perhaps set you two against each other or create 'sides', but Is Macca someone you typically trust for credibility?

{Ed002's Note - I have no reason to doubt what Macca has said about Ancelotti.}

24 Sep 2015 14:53:28
That's very interesting then. I'm definitely going with you and Macca on this one then, I reckon my own source has got it wrong.

People like Aly Moreno on ESPN FC are adamant he won't come because 'we're a very average team, a very average club, why would he want to get in that 'mess'.

Do you think he's got a point? I don't think he's looking at the entire picture that well.

24 Sep 2015 16:14:55
Alejandro Moreno is an idiot. Pure and simple. The worst analyst at ESPN. I love listening to Steve Nicol, even though he may be a bit, well different. But when LFC gets brought up, the response is always this is not good enough for my club.

24 Sep 2015 18:10:58
Gary Neville would be a dreadful manager.
He has zero charisma, a crucial attribute.

24 Sep 2015 21:55:09
I was thinking the other day how Ancelotti would line us up. It's simple really if you think beck to 2005. He had a strong spine in the midfield. A mixture of ball playing brilliance and tenacity. A great number 10 and two top goalscoring strikers. Yeah, they didn't win. They didn't have Stevie or Dudek or a lions heart but they destroyed us in 45 mins. I actually see similarities in their team and our best 11. We just need a strong intelligent leader.

25 Sep 2015 00:16:32
I like listening to Nicol too because he tells it how it is, even has a pop at pundits in the UK who are too scared to let their true feelings known. Don't mind Burley too because he's entertaining, and he's always a bit more optimistic about Liverpool than Moreno. Hislop is pretty good but he can be very fickle with his predictions. I don't even mind Moreno but sometimes he fails to grasp the bigger picture. E.g. when we signed Firmino, he's like, 'Yeah. so. they reckon this guy will replace Saurez a striker? Nope! He's no Suarez!'. I shook my head because Firmino was certainly not bought as a guy to fill this Suarez void at striker. And calling us an average team on paper? Come on. This squad has plenty of quality in it providing they have a manager who knows what to do with them.

{Ed007's Note - Craig Burley?

https://goo.gl/nfdRi8

25 Sep 2015 02:44:08
Haha, the guy makes me laugh man. He's fun to watch. And he actually makes good points. I like him better Moreno. I don't mind Aly but his perspectives are annoying.

23 Sep 2015 22:05:03
Might be a difficult one to answer but since Ancelotti had an issue with his health and needed surgery or something (I think), does anyone know if that was done and the sabattical was just for R&R? Really what I mean is he healthy enough to take up a position? Thanks a bunch Reds.

23 Sep 2015 22:48:59
I think it was surgery on his back, I don't think he'd be interested in my humble view

Knowing FSG they are probably talking to big Sam

23 Sep 2015 12:01:43
Liverpool have denied contact with carlo but why did they even bother to respond, there are always rumours about lfc and they never respond to them so why respond to this, Either they back BR 100% or they are panicked by the news getting out and are trying to over react to it in my opinion.

23 Sep 2015 12:39:51
Need clarity on it either way don't we.

23 Sep 2015 12:46:52
I personally believe that if rodgers is given the proper amount of support from the club and some more money to improve on transfers he will do a fantastic job. He is an excellent coach and if you stick by him he will be bring results. He does have a lot of good qualities and character but I feel that Liverpool haven't really given him a proper chance. It's a shame really, even stevie G thinks he could be England manager.

23 Sep 2015 12:52:58
LFC Forever: where are you going to get "clarity" from. Only if Carlo comes out and admits it. Either you believe the rumours or you believe the clubs statement. It can't be much clearer from the clubs point of view.

23 Sep 2015 13:02:09
Hahahah, angel red is just a Man United wind up merchant ;) How much more support and money does the fella need?!

23 Sep 2015 13:03:19
angelred
I think you've lost it mate!
Rodgers has had all the time and money to build a consistently challenging top 4 team and has failed miserably.
He made a massive mistake (because of his ego) refusing to work under an experienced DOF at the beginning, he's a very good coach but a rubbish manager. Cannot buy a good player for value to save his life!
We cannot afford to give him any more chances

23 Sep 2015 13:04:19
But Liverpool's denial wasn't a proactive response, it was a reaction to queries from reporters such as Pearce. The best thing to say is, 'no, rumours are not true'.

23 Sep 2015 13:15:53
angelred, ok mrs Rodgers

23 Sep 2015 15:23:22
Every time there is a rumour, the press ask the staff/manager, why would this be any different?

23 Sep 2015 17:34:57
Angelred, did you agree with youself mate?

23 Sep 2015 17:07:01
Liverpool sources deny Acellotti approach, according to ESPN
http://goo.gl/eMJjT7

23 Sep 2015 01:16:42
Ok this will be worst rumour of the year but my friend belives it's none other than Jimmy Floyd hasslebaink that's being looked at and might also be at the start of next season
I asked for his sourse but got the reply you just wait and see.

23 Sep 2015 06:56:34
You're right.


Worst rumour of the year.

23 Sep 2015 12:35:45
More chance of Jimmy Tarbuck taking over

23 Sep 2015 14:11:59
rather have jimmy tarbuck

23 Sep 2015 17:35:10
Rather have the proper grammar inserted into the post. Source, not sourse.

23 Sep 2015 19:14:38
Gazza my mistake. Sorry I am not perfect. I wait with great anticipation for further spelling lessons. Maybe you can do all the posts many thanks. xx

23 Sep 2015 19:26:17
Whilst we're being pedantic; that is a case of incorrect spelling, not grammar.😎

23 Sep 2015 22:53:12
I'm all for Tarby getting the job. At least we'll have one scouser at the club.