Liverpool Rumours Archive September 23 2010

 

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23 Sep 2010 23:57:47
Listen to all you miserable C*NTS "out with ROY" " NEws Conference tomorrow at 11a to sack Roy" none of you with the execption of a certain few have any idea what you are talking about so y not shut your mouths and support the team , you think its easy to bring in new players in n 4 positions and its just going to work, no it takes time i agree the younger lads deserve more time and all of you with your line ups next time the owners new or present are looking for a manager i am sure all you will get calls with your amazing talent finding skills and you magical lineups that will win us another title. As for owners i have no idea why any of you still try and figure out who its going to be if you have learned anything its that the board isn't going to say who the parties are so in the mean time support the club propper owners will be found and liverpool will return to what it once was whether King Kenny is manager or roy or jose or anyones else that's in the future so for god d*mn sakes support your team

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23 Sep 2010 23:34:51
My mate works for bbc sports team and has been told to go to anfield tomorrow morning for a news conference.

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23 Sep 2010 23:30:21
Have a friend in finance and he says that the liverpool deal will not happen till after the yanks default on the loan then the club will be brought for the value of the debt not what the americans think the club is worth have been told to watch out for another american to buy it and a japanese company he is a good friend but how true this is i don't know but thought i'd post it anyhow.

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23 Sep 2010 23:15:35
23 Sep 2010 23:12:44
Hodgeson or hodgson whatever still gettin sack

LOL! Your words enough.

Blair Mayn YNWA

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23 Sep 2010 23:12:44
Hodgeson or hodgson whatever still gettin sack

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23 Sep 2010 23:09:28
Martin o neil to be approached for new manager

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23 Sep 2010 23:09:11
23 Sep 2010 23:01:02
Roy hodgeson to be sacked tomorrow, press conference at 11am.
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That's good news because we've got Roy HODGSON as manager.

Roy Hodgeson must be from the lower league's?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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23 Sep 2010 23:07:44
Just heard woy will be gone tomorrow, best news ive heard all day.

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23 Sep 2010 23:01:02
Roy hodgeson to be sacked tomorrow, press conference at 11am.

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23 Sep 2010 21:22:21
A chap posted earlier the dire situation of LFC.
He is nearly 100% correct. The club is unsellable and on the edge of the abyss.

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23 Sep 2010 21:09:30
Roy proved last night that you can't bring 11 young players through at once. they need to come through 2 or 3 at a time and need to be given a chance every now and again more and more reguarly as time goes by. Right now the ONLY youngster ready for first team football is Martin Kelly, and until January when roy might actually buy some decent wingers we need to play kelly at right-back and johnson on the wing to give us some real-width.
Also play dan agger! we all know he is waaay better than skrtel and needs to come in now.
now we are past alot of the harder games switch to a more creative 4-4-2 like this:

25 Reina

34 Kelly
23 Carragher
5 Agger
3 Koncheskey

2 Johnson
8 Gerrard
4 Meireles
10 Cole

9 Torres
18 Kuyt

Or we could do a 4-3-1-2 formation which i think would work very well:

25 Reina

2 Johnson
23 Carragher
5 Agger
3 Koncheskey

4 Meireles
28 Poulsen
8 Gerrard

10 J.Cole

9 Torres
18 Kuyt

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23 Sep 2010 21:09:02
Macca if you had a pizza would you cut it into 4 pieces or 8?

Depends how many mouths i was feeding. .

Macca
so your not a footballer then!

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23 Sep 2010 21:06:10
Macca if you had a pizza would you cut it into 4 pieces or 8?

Depends how many mouths i was feeding. .

Macca

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23 Sep 2010 20:57:13
"It will be a footballing decision. I want to play in a more central position and I want a manager who has faith in me." Joe Cole just prior to signing. There's plenty more, just google Joe Cole Central.

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23 Sep 2010 20:56:22
"There are a small number of potentially-interested parties working seriously and privately, doing due diligence, . . . . Am i right in thinking due diligence is over about 10 days so we can't be far away? . .another thing don't you find footballs gone downhill since teams stopped making songs.

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23 Sep 2010 20:44:38
@23 Sep 2010 19:48:47
23 Sep 2010 12:07:53 "Can someone please tell me why Joe Cole doesn't play left wing anymore?"
"Because part of him agreeing to sign for us was us promising to play him in a more central role."
"How in the world would you know, did you help him sign his name on the dotted line. . common."

Errm, how about that's what Hodgson said at interview, it's what Cole said at interview and it's what Cole's agent released to the press. The fact you didn't know this displays to me that you pay absolutely no attention. It's hardly a secret after all.

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23 Sep 2010 19:35:08
Liverpool to sign owen in january and agger to juventus, aguero to be signed in summer when take over is finally completed in january at earliest and if results don't improve hodgson will be leaving when takeover is completed and torres will be leaving in summer if liverpool don't make champions league.

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23 Sep 2010 18:30:07
23 Sep 2010 18:08:23
Some people keep saying give hodgson time well can you please tell me how much time do you give a bloke who will be 64 next birthday.

23 Sep 2010 13:46:24

22 Sep 2010 22:39:15

Roy out when new owners takeover - owners to bring in their own man with the lure of cash to spend.
Trust me its true

I think its probable Hodgson knew this when he took the job. But he has always wanted to manage Liverpool. He probably will become the next England manager and could possibly have a clause written into his contract allowing release from Liverpool if the FA want him to replace Capello.
Yes, the past few weeks have been 'difficult' in terms of results and league position but I believe Hodgson to be a genuinely decent man, who along with the team are been strangled by the talk surrounding off field takeover activities.

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23 Sep 2010 18:26:45
23 Sep 2010 17:34:00
23 Sep 2010 16:51:25
Just to support what Chris and the Ed have been telling you fantasy fans about sugar daddy sheiks:- Dubai International Capital (DIC), which is the investment arm of Dubai Holding, a conglomerate owned by the ruler, Sheikh Mohammed bin Rasid al Maktoum, announced it has secured agreement with its six lending banks to push back the repayment of the debt from June until September. I hate to think what will happen if DIC does an H&G and defaults. .DIC is EXACTLY the same as LFC. Has no money to invest because it's too busy paying off its debts. MikeG

I AGREE. BUT I THINK SOME POSTERS ON THIS SITE SEEM TO BE SUGGESTING THAT SHEIKH MOHAMMED WOULD ATTEMPT TO BUY LIVERPOOL ON HIS OWN. I.E NOT USING THE DIC ROUTE.
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When Sheikh Mohammed tried to buy LFC a 2nd time in 2008-2009 he was using his own personal wealth and not DIC. So i think it would be fair to say IF he was interested now he would be going it alone.

Blair Mayne YNWA

EXACTLY. HIS PERSONAL WEALTH IS £18BN - NOTHING TO DO WITH DIC.

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23 Sep 2010 17:34:00
23 Sep 2010 16:51:25
Just to support what Chris and the Ed have been telling you fantasy fans about sugar daddy sheiks:- Dubai International Capital (DIC), which is the investment arm of Dubai Holding, a conglomerate owned by the ruler, Sheikh Mohammed bin Rasid al Maktoum, announced it has secured agreement with its six lending banks to push back the repayment of the debt from June until September. I hate to think what will happen if DIC does an H&G and defaults. .DIC is EXACTLY the same as LFC. Has no money to invest because it's too busy paying off its debts. MikeG

I AGREE. BUT I THINK SOME POSTERS ON THIS SITE SEEM TO BE SUGGESTING THAT SHEIKH MOHAMMED WOULD ATTEMPT TO BUY LIVERPOOL ON HIS OWN. I.E NOT USING THE DIC ROUTE.
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When Sheikh Mohammed tried to buy LFC a 2nd time in 2008-2009 he was using his own personal wealth and not DIC. So i think it would be fair to say IF he was interested now he would be going it alone.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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23 Sep 2010 17:01:58
Look lads I love Liverpool as much as the next guy but do yous not think Carragher is a liability now! Ive being sayin this for 2 years now!He has no pace makes dodgy decisions and he played terrible against the scum last week! Get Kelly in there he is a good prospect!

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23 Sep 2010 16:59:16
There is no point doing post mortem on last night's loss. But we need to learn from defeats of such magnitude . If we do so? Am sure we ll come back hard against the black cats . And by learning I mean, we need to start doing our homework on the opposition. I doubt we seem to be getting it right here.
Take the man city game for eg. Our formation was a shocker. And dint change as the game went by.
What I liked with the united game is we closed down the effect of scholes and fletcher really well.
And each team can be stopped by strategising this way.
Close down darren bent, danny wellbeck.

Other things to learn are -
Glen johnson isn't fit to be in our back 4. Play him at right wing. Maxi has been conspicuous by his absence in the games he has played.
Play shelvey more for god sake. Wilshere is playing regularly !
Give babel a chance to lay off torres. Or pacheco. And I mean 60 min atleast depending on form.
Play jovanovic in a similar role. Cos the guy jus doesn't get crosses in cos he dislikes it. Instead he runs around with pace and more in the centre rather than the flanks.
Play agger! He was better off last night.
Come on guys . Thrash sunderland 4-0.
Gerrard brace.torres one. Cole or meireles or babel one.

Lets blow our head off in our support for the team .
Go reds!

Breathtaking PHOENIX

Red for life!

Ed . Your thoughts welcome. {Editor's Note.....Well said mate. Many agree about Johnson. BTW, why not check the Banter box because the rumours page was originally only about that. We set up Banter for opinions etc..}

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23 Sep 2010 16:56:48
In reply to Hoola again

I agree with everything you said there mate.

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23 Sep 2010 16:42:53
Reports today from the Financial Times is that RBS are prepared to extend the loan repayment date. It says they could extend it until new owners are found IF this article is true then October 6th deadline is now redundant just like you said ED.

Blair Mayne YNWA

{Editor's Note: I never expected any miracles on October 6 or October 11. RBS certainly do not want to own a football club, so they will be looking for (a) interest payments to be made on time, and (b) the capital figure to be repaid.}

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23 Sep 2010 16:10:29
Would love to have Kenny Dalglish manage the team again, after all he still has some unfinished business at Liverpool.

Alan Hansen and Ian Rush to assist as they both have a lot to offer and are highly regarded amongst the fans.

I'm sorry, but what would Alan Hansen offer LFC at this point in time? I'd prefer old Pinnochio back tbh, proven track record as a bootroom assistant!

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23 Sep 2010 15:41:50
Ed you say that DIC are not involved in any bid to buy the club when you have already stated no one knows the interested parties except a select few!
Do you know something we don't? ?

Dickie Di Doh {ed's note - everyone knows DIC are broke mate.}

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23 Sep 2010 15:25:26
Guys. anyone heard about bank rakyat who looking forward to borrow money to support hicks. never heard of this bank before? is this real story or another crap ?

I'm from malaysia. . there no such news that Bank Rakyat (malaysia) offer any loan to the Yanks. . maybe some malaysian fan try to spice up the rumour. .trust me. . i a big fan liverpool. .and i'm pray that malaysian bank don't take up Yanks ideas. . YNWA. . .

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23 Sep 2010 14:54:04
How about we try playing either Carra or Kelly at right back against Sunderland and then play Johnson at right wing?

agree totally with this. johnson would provide us with decent width with great defensive ability in kelly.

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23 Sep 2010 14:48:14
23 Sep 2010 12:58:54
Db9 spoke of Tom Hicks at 23 Sep 2010 09:56:03:

". . .he has defaulted on every loan he ever had. . . i think the term is blacklisted"

Could you provide something to substantiate this statement?

Sharkey.


ok sharkey il hold my hands up to that, i can't go on record to say he defaulted every loan he's had, but his buisness history suggests that every sporting institution he has dipped his finger in has, or nearly has gone bust.
with corinthians he had to resign from the board following financial issues, at texas rangers they went bust, the dallas stars were close to going bust and our beloved club, well i don't need to outline any issues which we have. . .
if i were the banks i wouldn't piss on his eyebrows if they were on fire, nevermind give the **** cold hard cash. . .

db9

{Editor's Note: He has made no secret of his desire to get out of the sporting business - which is good for the club.}

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23 Sep 2010 14:39:16
When is rh going to realise that carra n skrtel aint working, johnson can't defend, we got no pace in attack and if he don't make major changes come saturday i can see us dropping more points.I think its time some of the promising youngsters were given a chance to shine, maybe kelly rb johnson rm ecclestone looks quality pacey andable to get opast defenders and we all know pacheos capability. come on roy sort it out.

ynwa

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23 Sep 2010 14:22:32
How about we try playing either Carra or Kelly at right back against Sunderland and then play Johnson at right wing?

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23 Sep 2010 14:10:41
Would love to have Kenny Dalglish manage the team again, after all he still has some unfinished business at Liverpool.

Alan Hansen and Ian Rush to assist as they both have a lot to offer and are highly regarded amongst the fans.

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23 Sep 2010 13:54:26
22 Sep 2010 18:54:44

I realise this is a long shot but if after the recent and ongoing criticism from various parties towards the BBC Match of the day programme leads to future changes in the programme and possible changes in presenting and analysis personnel, does anybody see a role at Liverpool for Alan Hansen. After all he was offered the Liverpool Manager job when Kenny left in 19991 because he Knee injuries had finally caught up with him. He turned the job down allegedly for many of the reasons given by Kenny i.e the pressure and the personal upset he felt about Hillsborough. Possibly not as Manager but perhaps something above that, because he was and is seen to be one of the more intelligent and well read former footballers (but not on world football according to Stan Collymore). {ed's note - I did ask him a few times when he was watching the stiffs play, he was adamant that he did not want to get involved. He didn't want the stress and who can blame him?}

I WAS GENERALLY LOOKING AT A ROLE ABOVE COACHING DUTIES (AMBASSADOR/ DIRECTOR ETC). I BELIEVE HANSEN HAS MANY GREAT QUALITIES. BUT I THINK IF THE MOTD FORMAT WAS CHANGED, HE WOULD KEEP HIS JOB AND PROBABLY THE LAZY LINEKER (WHO ADMITS NOT TO PARTICULARLY BEING INTERESTED IN FOOTBALL, HE JUST LIKED PLAYING) WOULD LOSE THE PRESENTING ROLE. IF HANSEN DID LEAVE THE BBC, HE WOULD EASILY BE SNAPPED UP BY ITV OR SKYSPORTS.

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23 Sep 2010 13:29:23
Sick of hearing about takeovers and millions being available for transfers.nobody in their right mind would buy the club at the moment.it is not a good investment.too much money needed to buy the club, too much money needed to invest in the club, anybody thinks we have a good first team should be sectioned immediatley! and too much money to build a new stadium.not much change from 800 million at least.in the current climate nobody is going to invest that sort of money for little return unless some rich arab prince wants a new toy for a couple of years and that probably won't happen either!we have to accept that we will be in this mess for some time to come and stop getting delusional that everything will be fine in a couple of weeks.this football club is like my crappy ford escort, it might be for sale but i have no chance of finding a buyer unless i give it away

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23 Sep 2010 12:55:31
My run down

JONES. didn't look safe last night can see him lasting a season at most
KELLY. brilliant double save should be are rightback now
WILSON. didn't have a clue out of position at leftback but improved when pushed inside more
AGGER. at times looked the most likely to make something happen
KYRIAGOS. threat at set pieces but want be here next season
JOVANAVIC. early goal but dropped out too early and never made any thing happen down left
PACHECO . come on roy never a right sided player should have started behind ngog plenty of effort tho
SPEARING. never gave up and should have position ahead of poulson
LUCAS. again kept battling but never really looked like getting anything moveing
NGOG. for a guy on form had no confidence should be grabing his chance but not happening
BABLE. the guy really does not want to be here terrible performance should not play again and be kicked out in january

subs
ECCLESTONE. one for the future but was never going to make the differance
INCE. too late to do anything
SHELVEY. thank god this kid single handed pulled are ass out the gutter could have been different story had he played full game get him on the bench passing was a younger gerrard

role on the takeover ed

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23 Sep 2010 12:30:25
To Whoever wrote this:

All this stuff about kelly.good player, should be in the first team.Bulls* t, he has a first touch like a * * * , wouldn't turn in a car park.no faith in this guy at all.Spearing not good enough either.

Kelly has been impressive in his other outings and that's why people have backed him to be a good player. Those who know about football have agreed playing him away to utd is not the time or place. But given time there is potential to become a good player.


Agreed on Spearing, he will make a living in the Championship hopefully. However (and even more so after last night) Shelvey should now be given the oppurtunities a younger Jay Spearing wasnt

Rez

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23 Sep 2010 12:30:20
So selling Steven or Fernando was never an option?

"It's certainly not something we would have ever wanted to do. You used the phrase 'moving players diplomatically on' which sounds as if we wanted to get rid of Fernando and Steven. Anybody who knows me, who knows Roy or who knows the club will know that nothing could be further from the truth. Any conversations that were had were stressing the absolute vital importance of those players - and others - to our future and to our plans and why they remain so central to what we're doing.

"Let's be honest, if you'd believed half of what you read in May about who would be leaving and who wouldn't. . then most of that didn't come to fruition. I'm absolutely thrilled and delighted that it didn't and that those fantastic players still grace our team today."

Does anyone get any comfort from the above response from Purslow? Surely the correct answer should have been 'Absolutely not under any circumstances'.

To me it looks like player sales (any players) are a distinct possibility.

KBL

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23 Sep 2010 12:23:16
23 Sep 2010 12:07:53 "Can someone please tell me why Joe Cole doesn't play left wing anymore?"

Because part of him agreeing to sign for us was us promising to play him in a more central role.

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23 Sep 2010 12:07:53
Can someone please tell me why Joe Cole doesn't play left wing anymore?

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23 Sep 2010 11:42:26
Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum

As the Prime Minister of the United Arab Emirates, the ruler of Dubai and one of the world's richest men, the Sheikh is, it would be fair to say, a powerful individual. He was not 100 per cent behind DIC's original bid to buy Liverpool and was instrumental in pulling the plug on the deal, but this time, critically, he is said to be 100 per cent committed to the new bid.

Priority

To add England's most successful football club to DIC's impressive portfolio. THIS ONE 2 . .YNWA

{Editor's Note: You seem to be copying some ancient news source. DIC are not involved with any bid for Liverpool.}

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23 Sep 2010 11:41:31
Sameer al-Ansari

Like many of the overseas players who have signed for the club over the past decade, the Kuwait-born, British-educated chief executive of DIC talks up his credentials as a Liverpool fan. He was in the crowd when Liverpool lifted the European Cup in Istanbul in 2005, when the seeds of DIC's original takeover bid were sown, and was distraught when he was gazumped by Hicks and Gillett. He is determined to succeed this time.

Priority

To become a significant player in the Anfield boardroom. FOUND THIS ON WEB SITE YNWA

{Editor's Note: This is by no means current. It says "....chief executive of DIC..." which is incorrect - he left DIC months ago.}

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23 Sep 2010 10:36:44
This bank rakayat will go bankrup if willing to support hicks. worldwide fans should write letter to this bank to stop providing any funds

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23 Sep 2010 09:38:41
Guys. anyone heard about bank rakyat who looking forward to borrow money to support hicks. never heard of this bank before? is this real story or another crap ?

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23 Sep 2010 07:37:52
This idea of £10 per fan sounds too gud to be true bt if its possible thn sum1 plz do wateva its tkes we dnt wnt cowboys managing to get the refinancing of the club. . . long live da great lfc. . ynwa

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23 Sep 2010 07:36:38
To Toby,
Nice idea but there are a few problems with it. Firstly, LFC shares are not publically traded so we could not buy them unless the sellers wanted to sell to us. It takes two to tango. IF they would not sell to us there would be an account with loads of readies in belonging to the global LFC fans. . they might want it back which would be difficult to sort out I think. I would suggest that we buy ManU instead and sack SAF, sell rooney etc and buy the Northamton team. Then let's see them get that 19th title from division two.
Finally, on the bank idea why not just set it up as a Ltd company fronted by a few ex players to give it creability and do it through RBS. Shows RBS the depth of feeling and they get some interest as well?

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23 Sep 2010 07:22:05
I THINK THAT TORRES WILL LEAVE US THIS SUMMER BUT I DONT THINK HE WILL BE STAYING IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE. I HAVE HEARD OF A FEW CLUBS WHICH HAVE A KEEN EYE ON HIM.

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23 Sep 2010 07:18:04
I agree with the post relating to a number of potential bidders biding their time to get the best price. Interestingly, Purslow was quoted yesterday saying "The issue today is that too much of our profit is being used to service loans, interest costs and bank charges. Can we afford to meet them? Just about. We are dealing with that issue. When we sell the business that debt will be reduced or go away which will make us the most profitable club in the Premier League." That would make us an attractive buy at the right price. He also said "There are a small number of potentially-interested parties working seriously and privately, doing due diligence, looking at the business in detail from a financial and legal standpoint" . I have believed that for a while and still do. As long as the books are ok then I would expect one of them to make a bid when H&G are desperate.
Keep the faith!

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23 Sep 2010 05:23:47
Bad News @ Bank Rakyat willing to offer asking amount by Hicks.

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23 Sep 2010 03:26:37
RIGHT! ! ! ! ! !

GETTING REALLY BORED OF ALL THIS TAKE OVER CRAP! ! ! ! ! !

I AM GOING DOWN TO LLOYDS TOMORROW TO SET UP A MEETING WITH THEIR CORPORATE DIVISION! !

I AM GONNA SET UP AN ACCOUNT / SHARE FACILITY WHERE EVERY LIVERPOOL FAN CAN BUY A SHARE FOR A TENNER! !

IF THERE REALLY IS 150 MILLION OF US FANS OUT THERE THEN I AM SURE WE CAN ALL AFFORD A TENNER, THAT WOULD GIVE US £1.5 BILLION?? ? ?

£300M TO BUY THE CLUB. . . £500M TO BUILD AN 80,000 SEATER STADIUM. . . . £200M FOR THE MANAGER TO SPEND ON PLAYERS AND £500M SITTING IN THE BANK FOR WHATEVER?

SIMPLES! ! SOUNDS TOO EASY? THATS BECAUSE IT IS TOO EASY! ! I WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW I GOT ON


TOBEY


Great, but nobody will give you money to your account unless they know for 100% fact where its going. It could be your own personal account number you're giving out so unless we see this account number on LFC TV or Purslow / Broughton give it out you'll recieve nothing i reckon.
Is that fair enough do ya think and what do you propose to do to clear that worry up?
But other than that i admire your pro-active stance.
Kev

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23 Sep 2010 02:26:19
RIGHT! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

GETTING REALLY BORED OF ALL THIS TAKE OVER CRAP! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

I AM GOING DOWN TO LLOYDS TOMORROW TO SET UP A MEETING WITH THEIR CORPORATE DIVISION! ! ! !

I AM GONNA SET UP AN ACCOUNT / SHARE FACILITY WHERE EVERY LIVERPOOL FAN CAN BUY A SHARE FOR A TENNER! ! !

IF THERE REALLY IS 150 MILLION OF US FANS OUT THERE THEN I AM SURE WE CAN ALL AFFORD A TENNER, THAT WOULD GIVE US £1.5 BILLION?? ?? ?? ?

£300M TO BUY THE CLUB. . . £500M TO BUILD AN 80,000 SEATER STADIUM. . . . £200M FOR THE MANAGER TO SPEND ON PLAYERS AND £500M SITTING IN THE BANK FOR WHATEVER??

SIMPLES! ! ! ! SOUNDS TOO EASY?? THATS BECAUSE IT IS TOO EASY! ! ! ! I WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW I GOT ON


TOBEY

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23 Sep 2010 00:04:18
To whoever posted this:
"Roy out when new owners takeover - owners to bring in their own man with the lure of cash to spend.
Trust me its true"

How can you possibly know this when you don't know who the new owners will be? This is pure conjecture. The question for new owners will be whether they buy into Roy's plans (literally), whether they have confidence in him (probably) and whether there is anyone else who they think is better AND available (questionable).

My personal opinion of this takeover saga is that there are few potential buyers and they believe they can drive the price down by waiting until the RBS loan is up for renewal, or even later. Hicks is desperately trying to get new financing to keep the price up as he could face being cleaned out otherwise.

I think the club will be sold shortly before (if there are a few bidders) or after (if there are only one or two bidders) the RBS deal is up.

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