Liverpool Rumours Archive September 22 2010

 

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22 Sep 2010 23:45:40
I was wondering if anyone really cares about the team anymore. I come on here and see the hate for the owners and the hate for the manager and the hate for many of the players by the so called Liverpool fans. Everything I have said previously has been put down by the regulars so I think the answer is somewhere - but not here.

Deke Reefer

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22 Sep 2010 22:39:15
Roy out when new owners takeover - owners to bring in their own man with the lure of cash to spend.
Trust me its true

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22 Sep 2010 21:59:33
Channelsurfing.net if you wanna watch any match or sports events, great site! Hope this helps you out people!
Chris!

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22 Sep 2010 21:56:54
"Liverpool Football Club is not going bust. We have an extremely healthy business with record revenues and we are highly profitable. The issue today is that too much of that profit is being used to service loans put into place when the club was bought. We are dealing with that issue. When we sell the business that debt will be reduced or go away which will make us the most profitable club in the Premier League. Liverpool is not going bust." Christian Purslow

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22 Sep 2010 21:35:25
WHERES MACCA NOW? sounds like he was full of it the whole time
baz
full of it over what?

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22 Sep 2010 21:27:16
Regarding the purslow interview, its interesting when being asked about who employed him he says hicks and gillette WAS the owners. . then quickly retorts to IS the owners!

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22 Sep 2010 21:16:28
WHERES MACCA NOW?? sounds like he was full of it the whole time
baz

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22 Sep 2010 20:18:07
Anyone knows which website or a link that shows the match?

Thanks

T

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22 Sep 2010 19:59:51
22 Sep 2010 19:09:24

Does any1 know any websites where i can watch tonights game live please x
. . . . ed any sites? {ed's note - have you tried atdhe?}

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22 Sep 2010 19:33:00
IF rbs take control of liverpool in october it will be sold within weeks ive no doubt of that

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22 Sep 2010 19:32:03
Has anyone found a stream link. i know its on lfctc at 10:30 but its stupid watching a match when its delayed
why don't they just show it live! !
harry5

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22 Sep 2010 18:44:50
22 Sep 2010 18:32:39
Ed, or anyone else that watched the CP interview, do you know if anyone asked about what will happen if there is no sale agreed or close to being agreed by the 6th october? did he mention anything about that at all?
Being at work I missed the interview and the BBC summary does n't say much.

Thanks,
Roy {ed's note - I don't remember that being explained, but I might just have missed it.}

All he said Roy was "talks were ongoing" not much i know mate but i didn't expect him to say much anyway.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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22 Sep 2010 18:40:15
Ed, or anyone else that watched the CP interview, do you know if anyone asked about what will happen if there is no sale agreed or close to being agreed by the 6th october? did he mention anything about that at all?
Being at work I missed the interview and the BBC summary does n't say much.

Thanks,
Roy {ed's note - I don't remember that being explained, but I might just have missed it.}


Dont know if this helps but he did say that Administration is very Unlikely!

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22 Sep 2010 18:35:30
Regarding Purslow, Just read King Kenny's book, The great Man himself say's Purslow is doing a great job for LFC in difficult circumstances. . does anyone question the Kings integrity??

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22 Sep 2010 18:32:39
Ed, or anyone else that watched the CP interview, do you know if anyone asked about what will happen if there is no sale agreed or close to being agreed by the 6th october? did he mention anything about that at all?
Being at work I missed the interview and the BBC summary does n't say much.

Thanks,
Roy {ed's note - I don't remember that being explained, but I might just have missed it.}

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22 Sep 2010 18:01:36
I really do not understand people coming on here and slagging off Purslow just because he didn't come out and say "you're right, those yanks are a right pair of knobbers and I want to tw*t Hicks Jnr coz he's a c*nt".

For any number of reasons he has to be careful what he says and can only give out very limited general information because he is bound by an NDA.

We might all want full access rights to all documents and conversations but it's not going to happen is it?

He is a senior executive FFS overseeing a huge sale of a football club. There are issues that us mere mortals will never be privy to.

Let the man do his job.

Frenchy

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22 Sep 2010 17:59:14
Roys major january signing will be either marin or hazard whom he is willing to pay 16mill+ plus for.

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22 Sep 2010 17:54:08
Ed, Been busy the last couple of days. I've just seen an interview on LFC TV with Matt Cr. & C. Purslow. Any idea if this was a recent interview as i missed the start. It was on LFC NOW.
I am much more at ease now having heard his side of things assuming its recent. He seems very genuine. I honestly think we'll be ok now having seen that today.
What you think Ed?
Irish Kev {ed's note - it was done live earlier today mate. If you read back a number of people have been discussing it today, not everyone has been put at ease but most seem to be happier now.}

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22 Sep 2010 17:36:10
ANDRE WISDOM WILL PLAY SOME PART TONIGHT AS HE HAS BEEN GIVEN A SQUAD NUMBER (47)

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22 Sep 2010 17:30:49
22 Sep 2010 11:05:28
Trust me guys. . talks are quitely ongoing with Bank Rakyat Malaysia on borrowing 280m . Hicks are trying to turn others attention on Blackstone deals as dealing with Bank Rakyat.
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AND THE BANK OF TOY LAND AND ANY OTHER BANK YOU CAN THINK OF THIS IS GETTING REALLY STUPID.

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22 Sep 2010 17:27:15
22 Sep 2010 16:33:40
Shwienstieger in lucas out and muller for £20 million plus agger
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You are joking.

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22 Sep 2010 17:26:36
Unsigned wrote at 22 Sep 2010 17:13:55:

"If all you reds fans want the club to go forward the fans should get together and buy the club from the americans and have done with and we could have a say in who we would like in the team"

The problem with this is that the fans could not raise the money in the short term to buy the club. Then there is a problem with where the money would come from the build a new stadium. The next problem will be where the massive transfer budget the fans are demanding will come from. If the money could be raised to buy the club, it would be out of business in a very short time. Not a viable option at all.

Sharkey.

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22 Sep 2010 17:13:55
If all you reds fans want the club to go forward the fans should get together and buy the club from the americans and have done with and we could have a say in who we would like in the team

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22 Sep 2010 16:33:40
Shwienstieger in lucas out and muller for £20 million plus agger

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22 Sep 2010 16:32:30
For goodness sake lets get a grip people.

If Mr Purslowe is not telling the truth as he see's it I think he is playing a very dangerous game with his own future employment prospects. Lying that blatantly in public on camera may well not increase his ability to find employment elsewhere in the future.

I think he came over as honestly believing what he was saying, and that he likes the rest of us is a genuine fan of Liverpool FC.

Many fans, can now only see bad things happening, the owners have brainwashed us into such a negative mind set, that we all find it hard to believe anything good being said.

Let's give Purslowe the benefit of any doubts we may have, until it is proved different.

It does not mean we stop opposing the Yanks, mainly Hicks, we keep letting the banks know what we think about there continued ownership.

That does not mean taking stupid action, or making barmy illegal threats.

Keep the Faith Guys. Liverpool will return stronger and better than ever in the FUTURE, with the best fans on the Planet

rasone

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22 Sep 2010 16:06:22
Purslow did a good politician style interview nothing more. He told fans nothing. The whole interview was without substance. He was not going to slag off the owners because they are his boss. He told us there were no offers just interested potential buyers.We already new this, because Hicks as been trying to refinance.The whole saga will run and run. I don't expect to hear about a sale until it is done. So please stop writing about it. H & G will go, as everything comes to those who wait.

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22 Sep 2010 16:01:21
{ed's note - so is everyone pleased with the interview then? Considering the smear campaign that was run against Purslow not so long ago, do we think he has gone a long way towards addressing the fans' fears? And has he started to win any of you round, do you now feel confident he has the club at heart?}

I have always sat on the fence. Not sure what to think or make of things. Would love to know what the players make of him. Apparently I've read that he played a part in Torres staying. His interview comes across very re-assuring and that he does care. I think the questions were excellently thought through. It covers the relationships at the club and the sense of encamped loyalty. However caring and wanting the best is very different to having the ability to achieve that and I'm still on the fence.

It raises the issue that both Purslow and Broughton's own reputations will be tarnished significantly if H&G are allowed to become H or the fail to sell the Club within the next few months. As raised by a fellow blogger. . The board could be removed if H&G wanted to. However it seems everyone does want the same thing. To sell Liverpool. So what we don't know is whether H&G are the sticking point on price or the potential buyers really want to drive the price down to get the club on the cheap after the repo man has come in.
I know what I would do if I was buying an asset from distressed owners. . I would play the waiting game and get the club after it was repo'd or right before repo man came in. If I was the distressed owners I would not want that to happen. I would do everything possible to balance the negotiation. Very cat and mouse. . .

However if there are no buyers, and Hicks is looking at alternative investment then my opinion of Purslow would change.

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22 Sep 2010 15:36:07
Ed can you pls tell me in which channel in india is the carling cup liverpool game being telecasted and what time ? {ed's note - I am sorry mate, I really wouldn't have a clue, but there are a number of sites online that might be screening it. atdhe.net, iraqgoals.com are two that spring to mind.}

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22 Sep 2010 15:35:25
22 Sep 2010 15:04:48
22 Sep 2010 05:22:46
January LFC transfer Inler in lucas out


INLER IS V.POOR. DID YOU NOT SEE HIM FOR THE SWISS AGAINST ENGLAND. WE DON'T NEED MORE DROSS. USE OUR YOUTH AND RESERVES.

i live in switzerland and watch all their games on tv and trust me inler = Poop
any defender playing for switzerland is in no way good enough to even play for northampton. their defence is disgraceful, behrami and shaqiri are the only 2 swiss players with any ounce of talent.

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22 Sep 2010 15:21:01
22 Sep 2010 13:46:22
MICHAEL OWEN BACK TO LIVERPOOL IN JANUARY.

CAN'T SEE THAT AT ALL. BUT I HAVE HEARD THAT LUCAS LEIVA MAY MOVE TO JUVENTUS IN JANUARY IN A SWAP DEAL INVOLVING £4 M FROM JUVE PLUS MO SISSOKO. HODGSON RATES SISSOKO AND TRIED TO TAKE HIM ON LOAN TO FULHAM LAST YEAR. I THINK THAT IS QUITE AN ATTRACTIVE DEAL.

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22 Sep 2010 15:04:48
22 Sep 2010 05:22:46
January LFC transfer Inler in lucas out


INLER IS V.POOR. DID YOU NOT SEE HIM FOR THE SWISS AGAINST ENGLAND. WE DON'T NEED MORE DROSS. USE OUR YOUTH AND RESERVES.

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22 Sep 2010 14:56:12
I can't speak for the owners but I am absolutely sure that both of them are totally committed to trying to sell the club as soon as possible. They haven't had an offer yet that they like and so I suspect that both of them individually and collectively are pursuing their other alternatives and that's their prerogative."

christian purslow

so that tells us folks that they have had a number of offers for the club and that the greedy yonks just want to bleed us dry and keep asking for an unrealistic price for our beloved club

GET OUT U YONK ROBBERS!

{Editor's Note: It shows that they are trying to sell the club - you seem to forget that.}

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22 Sep 2010 14:28:11
Eds right alot of people on here are very fickle, not to long ago most 'fans' were slating purslow, saying he wasnt qualified for the job and how him and broughton were going to ruin our club.
now i'll admit i'll never trusted any1 in a suit so i can't really judge but so far i don't see what he has ever done wrong.

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22 Sep 2010 13:46:41
I've just finished watching Purslow on LFCTV he came over as very professional and competent. I have worked on senior management teams myself and am used to the situation where a CEO is talking to staff, investors etc and where I am party to information that the staff / investors are not. This may give me some insight into what CP was "really" saying.

Firstly his comments about what you read in the paper not being what is really going on with serious bidders is absolutely correct. We will know who (if anyone) is about to buy the club when a statement is put out, and almost certainly not before. I accept that there are multiple parties currently undertaking due diligence with a view to making an offer (although what he didn;t say is that this will probably not until after Oct 6th).

Secondly, he was very clear that the non-owner board members would not sanction a refinancing in which the club was use as collateral. However what he did not mention is that the current board could be sacked and replaced (eg by Hicks Jnr) if doing so gave Hicks the money to pay off RBS. I think Hicks and Gillette are keen to sell the club, they probably know they will not make much profit and may even accept a loss, however a lot of money is at stake for them and they will do everything they can to push up the purchase price. Convincing potential buyers that they have a plan B should the RBS deadline as and the loan be called in is about the only mechanism Hicks has to push up the price. There will almost cetainly be an element of brinksmanship between buyers and H&G which is why I am convinced nothing will seem to happen until the loan repayment deadline.


Bob

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22 Sep 2010 13:46:22
MICHAEL OWEN BACK TO LIVERPOOL IN JANUARY.

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22 Sep 2010 13:11:19
{ed's note - so is everyone pleased with the interview then? Considering the smear campaign that was run against Purslow not so long ago, do we think he has gone a long way towards addressing the fans' fears? And has he started to win any of you round, do you now feel confident he has the club at heart?}

I just want to see what happens on or just after October 6th. It's been said before (many times) that no one is going to pay the yanks what they want now ie £600 mill when they know RBS will sell the club and clear the debt of £237ish million. So why would anyone pay more to those tw*ts??

The good thing that came form his interview is that we won't go into Administration. Get the deal done before Jan transfer window, give Woy some money and lets hope we can get 4th place

RedDan

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22 Sep 2010 13:08:00
What did Purslow say - i am at work and have limited access to the internet.
can we believe him?

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22 Sep 2010 12:53:21
{ed's note - so is everyone pleased with the interview then? Considering the smear campaign that was run against Purslow not so long ago, do we think he has gone a long way towards addressing the fans' fears? And has he started to win any of you round, do you now feel confident he has the club at heart?}

I think that he may have put things in perspective for those fans that were unclear of the current situation. As he says no news does not mean nothing is going on. Everyone involved is being quiet for a reason.
It has certainly made me feel better about the goings on and made the future of our club a bit clearer

Ste-T-4eva

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22 Sep 2010 12:53:13
TBH i don't believe a word he has said.he had me up until he said that every penny made from player sales goes into player recruitment.if that is case we can expect to put in a bid for messi in january.why did we need to try and swap cole for babel instead of offering straight cash!

he also contradicts broughton when he said the reason the club was'nt sold is because an offer not acceptable to the owners had been made.broughton said in august that the buyer may not be the highest bidder.which now turns out to be LIES LIES LIES and more LIES!

He is just trying to pull the wool over our eyes, BUT IT WONT WORK! !

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22 Sep 2010 12:52:54
Re-financing is Hickses only option, not the boards option is what he means, if Hicks can raise the funds RBS are obligated to give him back the club, nothing the board can do about it its not there debt, the debt belongs to Hicks, the bank do not care who pays them as long as they get paid. Red Banker

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22 Sep 2010 12:51:24
I think everyone can rest up now and read the purslow interview very reassuring that for a refinancing deal it needs the boards full approval and also that on the takeover that anything that you read in the paper is not true, so anyone posting on here pretending to know about the takeover is bviously a total bluffer.
dcg.

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22 Sep 2010 12:39:10
22 Sep 2010 12:18:07
Hi ed
just letting you know purslows on lfc anwsering questions fromthe fans, its interesting still watching it though, worth a watch for any fans if there worried thx kopknight

Yeah I can back this up, really worth watching! Purslow made it very clear that H&G need the full backing of the board to use the club as assets! He also made it very clear that refinancing is not an option.

PJ The Red {ed's note - so is everyone pleased with the interview then? Considering the smear campaign that was run against Purslow not so long ago, do we think he has gone a long way towards addressing the fans' fears? And has he started to win any of you round, do you now feel confident he has the club at heart?}

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22 Sep 2010 12:31:50
After hearing what Purslow has said I hope what he speaks is the truth as from what he says is a positive response I as a Liverpool fan wants. . he wants the best buyer, he said there are a number of interested parties who are going through due diligence, his job was firstly to find an investor which turned into getting a buyer, he does not want Hicks to get any new funding.
Is there light at the end of this dark tunnel for us Liverpool fans?

Ste-T-4eva

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22 Sep 2010 12:24:03
Hicks may still get the money, but this time it will be on the banks terms, and there terms will be very tough, possible investers can demand what they want from the deal, because Hicks is playing his last hand, any deal that gats done on re-financing the loan the board can not stop.

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22 Sep 2010 12:18:07
Hi ed
just letting you know purslows on lfc anwsering questions fromthe fans, its interesting still watching it though, worth a watch for any fans if there worried thx kopknight

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22 Sep 2010 12:09:12
Liverpool fans were left reeling late last night, as images reached them that suggested their club has reached a new low.

Owner Tom Hicks was snapped by Twitter user @erinnyc75 sitting outside two bank headquarters in New York, waiting to deliver his pitch for investment.

And the obvious implication is that he is continuing his desperate search to get refinancing to allow him to repay loans to the RBS, and keep his clutches on Anfield.

Hicks was pictured sitting in the street outside both the main JP Morgan headquarters in NYC, and at the Deutsche bank next door, clutching a document.

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He was accompanied by his son, and the images of him forced to wait in the street outside will send shockwaves through the Liverpool support, as it conjures the idea of him going cap in hand to the banks, to get the loans he needs.

It is a far cry from the days when Hicks was courted by financial institutions desperate to lend his leveraged buy-out firms money, but it again raises the fear amongst the Reds support that he will not give up easily in his quest to keep hold of Liverpool, despite massive opposition to his reign.

Shocked fans have already reacted by bombarding both banks with emails threatening direct action against them if they continue to deal with Hicks.

And the Mirror has learnt that the American and his business partner George Gillett could also now be a target of a class action in court from local Anfield residents, whose homes have been blighted by the lack of development promised when they bought the club.

Locals are investigating whether they have grounds to sue over unfulfilled promises over investment that would have unlocked the Anfield Regeneration Programme, a council initiative aimed at re-generating the area.

Fans are now also investigating when the Americans have breached the terms of the sale process they agreed with current lenders RBS, by seeking refinance from US investment banks.

There the article from the mirror which does include a pic of hicks sittin in the street!

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22 Sep 2010 12:04:36
Just watched Purslowe, if all he said in correct, and I have no reason to believe otherwise, I was very impressed, and more important I am feeling relief.

Came over as a FAN and an HONEST man.

Best news for a while

rasone

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22 Sep 2010 11:55:27
Ed, Do you think there would be a good news for fans at the end of takeover saga? Inler is quite frequently linked. Do you think, he is a target? Thanks {ed's note - Roy is not planning for a future takeover, sensibly he is sticking to worrying about what he has now. There is no point anyone scouting targets just in case we do have money when there is a definite need to scout targets for the moment. I mean no one at the club will even know if they will still have a job after a takeover, the buyer might want to bring in their own man.}

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22 Sep 2010 11:52:46
Alright guys! Just typed ' tom hicks seen at bank' in the google search and str8 away it bring up an article wrote by the mirror. Its does show the person tom hicks sittin in a new york street clutchin documents outside the bank. The fact he is made to wait in the street shows he can't be taken seriously! it gave a link towards fan taking there club back and it mentions the reds bombarding banks with emails. It talks about blackstone an says the email had a input on rejecting there re finance loan. If this is true then keep up the good work fellow reds fans!

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22 Sep 2010 11:05:28
Trust me guys. . talks are quitely ongoing with Bank Rakyat Malaysia on borrowing 280m . Hicks are trying to turn others attention on Blackstone deals as dealing with Bank Rakyat.

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22 Sep 2010 10:41:12
ED do you think by writing to these banks that it
maybe putting off potential buyers? {ed's note - so long as the emails are polite and not just a stream of obscenities, then no, they will not put off potential buyers. In my opinion they will have the opposite effect by reminding buyers what a huge support the club has and how, if the club is run correctly, they could make a lot of money from a support of that size.}

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22 Sep 2010 09:43:56
Hi all, not a rumour as such but thought id send you this reply from michael howard mp who im not really a fan of but he is a massive liverpool fan and knows people in the board, i asked him did he know anything and would he front or join a consortium to buy liverpool(just to see what he said) and this is his reply.

Dear Mr Day
Thank you for your email. I wish I knew of a way of achieving the objective which we share.
I also wish I knew a consortium of the kind to which you refer. I would certainly be prepared to join one if such a consortium were available but I have no reason, unfortunately, to suppose there is.
I have spoken to Martin Broughton who I think is doing the best for the Club in what are very difficult circumstances.
We must just live in hope of a happy outcome.

Best wishes,

The Rt. Hon. Lord Howard of Lympne QC

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22 Sep 2010 09:09:21
Liverpool fc, have a real problem, every time somebody shows an interest in re-financing Hicks, you all start sending e-mails to there offices, wrong approach!Hicks does not want the club re-financed until the last moment, that way the people who loan him the moneywill not have to put up with a bombardment of abuse, until after the loan is in place, there are some people still interested in loaning the money, and this is the reason, loan Hicks the money when he defualts the club is yours for £200 million odd, if RBS take over the club you will pay a lot more then the re-finance amount, Rbs will own the club for profit, so whoever wants the club will have to pay there asking price, so if someone wants the club on the cheap then they will do a deal with Hicks, the way the yanks set up there partnership was as you all know 50-50, if Hicks gains control he can give a share of the club say 25 per cent as a security on the loan, so the new invester will already be making money from the club before the next loan default, and then they can takeover, so you should be hoping that whoever gives Hicks the loan has the clubs fiture at heart.

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22 Sep 2010 09:07:12
I was drunk yesterday and was vending my anger by sending all sort of emails to all sorts of people. This morning I think it's all pointless. . is it just hangover or reason? Blackstone GSO say they pulled out of deal with hicks because of buisness reasons and not because of public pressure. What do you think, Ed? Are all these emails helping or is it just pointless and a delusion on our part, the fans, that we can change something.
RHI

{Editor's Note: The emails will not help, they will alienate the fans. I assume that you were out drinking with Blair and his baseball bat wielding gang as Blair also seems to have a momentary lapse of reason. An example being that we do not know why Hicks visited Deutsche Bank in New York - could it to have been to meet a buyer? Hicks wants out of sports franchises, he wants to sell the club, the club is up for sale, and he is buying himself time to extend the sale period (or seems to be trying to). Nobody knows what will happen on October 11 regarding RBS - but I cannot see them taking control of the club. I do think it is pretty good of you to stand up over this though.}

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22 Sep 2010 05:22:46
January LFC transfer Inler in lucas out

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22 Sep 2010 00:41:58
Here is another email address to bombard:

press-media-relations.americas@db.com

Walk on reds - LIVERPRES

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22 Sep 2010 00:11:02
Deutsche Bank AG
60 Wall Street
NEW YORK, NY 10005
USA

Tel: +1 212 250 2500
Deutsche Bank AG
1 Great Winchester Street
EC2N 2DB LONDON
GREAT BRITAIN

Tel: +44 20 754 58000
Deutsche Bank AG
One Raffles Quay
South Tower Level 17
SINGAPORE 048583

Tel: +65 6423 8001

I just E.mailed Deutsche Bank these are the regional address's and phone numbers contact them and show how determend we are to rid our Great Club of these Rats which ever way you can.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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21 Sep 2010 23:53:40
Emails have to be directed to Deutsche Bank as that was the offices he entered! !

You can hide from us Hicks, WE ARE EVERYWHERE WATCHING YOUR EVERY MOVE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DEFACE YOUR LYING ATTEMPTS TO GET YOUR HANDS ON "OUR" CLUB! ! ! !

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