Liverpool Rumours Archive October 22 2010

 

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22 Oct 2010 23:56:29
You have to look at the situation we are in. all of these rumours are great and this site is tremendous. but weve got tackle whats really happening. have we got 40 million to spend 1st jan(apparently)? Will we have a different manger 1st Jan? Weve been linked with half a dozen different guys to take over from woy. All i say is. . I welcomed Woy Hogsen to our club when he did, with his track record, Not too bad. but when he keeps saying its a 'working progress' and we are sat were are it frustrates me. i honestly don't know what is the best way forward for the club, certain people are paid alot of money to make those decissions. it can't get any worse. if roy is to go, he has to go now. but who is the man to take control?

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22 Oct 2010 23:54:39
To the person who said this

Guliem balaque (excuse the spelling)says mata is coming to liverpool.

WRONG me thinks, my source in spain tells me that he will be signing a new contract with Valencia.

LFC1

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22 Oct 2010 23:49:30
I have been a liverpool fan and a pompey fan for my whole life i live in portsmouth and i would cry if they got shut down PLAY UP POMPEY!

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22 Oct 2010 23:46:39
Guliem balaque (excuse the spelling)says mata is coming to liverpool.

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22 Oct 2010 23:30:45
Believable if you want Portsmouth to stay a team
unbelievable for liquidated

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22 Oct 2010 23:29:08
Hogdson will be sacked on Monday.Rijkaard will be named as his replacement later that day.John W.Henry is known for sacking manaers quickly if thye don't bring home results.

Rijkaard will be given 20 million to spend in January.
He will sell:Lucas, Poulsen, Babel and Maxi.He will then have 45 million to spend.
This will be used on 20 million on De rossi, 7 million on Copenhagens N'doye and 18 million on Mata.

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22 Oct 2010 23:15:12
Who do you think will be a bigger prospect believe for suso or unbelieve for sterling, I personally would go with suso the lad will be massive in a year or two ynwa

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22 Oct 2010 22:47:48
Source: asiaplate.com

Former Galatasaray and Barcelona boss Frank Rijkaard is reported coming close to replace Roy Hodgon after another disapointed performance in Italy. Speculation is rife that Roy Hodgson will leave Anfield and will surely to be axed as early as this weekend if the club do not beat Blackburn Rovers on Sunday, however any resultant victory merely delaying the inevitable.

Rijkaard agent stated that no actual contact has been made but THE DUTCH MAN WAS APPOACHED AND HE IS VERY INTERESTED IN THE JOB AT ANFIELD.

Odds for Rijkaard being the next Liverpool manager have dropped dramatically and he is now the clear favourite to take over from under fire Hodgson.

Martin ONeill and Kenny Dalglish are also linked with the job, but it's unlikely both to leave their current club for Liverpool.

harry5:)

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22 Oct 2010 22:38:58
Now that we are safe (financially at least) let us spare a thought for Portsmouth who have been struggling for a couple of years to keep their heads above the water. Their loyal fans will be going through the same as we did a couple of weeks ago only their is no saviour on the horizon. Another club shabbily run by millionaires with no true love for the club! ! Lets hope they dig themselves out of it!

THANKYOU! THAT is why liverpool fans are famous. Good man. And to the people that clicked believable give urselves a pat on the back, you are commendable human beings. Thankyou for restoring some of my faith in humanity. . . Duckula

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22 Oct 2010 22:35:23
As well as feeling the pain of Pompey fans, spare a thought for New York Cosmos who look live they've decided to employ Rick Parry.

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22 Oct 2010 22:25:38
22 Oct 2010 21:28:14
Everyone keeps going on about Turan. I'm sorry but he's not in the same league as Elia. This kid can be a superstar! Also I don't think much of Pacheco, seen him a few times & I can safely say that Suso will be a better prospect.

Gav the red
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He is a top player too. More expensive though. Probably around 16 - 18 million. I haven't seen him play much. Would he go to lfc with our recently problems.

I would take turan, Honda, Fernando Llorente Afellay (pre-contract) and mexes (pre-contract). You could sell babel, lucas, maxi and the greek.

Share a thought for pompy too. Feel gutted for the fans

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22 Oct 2010 22:24:58
{ed's note - I always though Spain played a 3 man front line, Torres as the central one, hence why Villa plays on the left of it. Personally I think Torres is in desperate need of a strike partner, one up top just doesn't work unless you have a lot of support from midfield. We are not playing high enough up the pitch to make one striker work.}

couldn't agree more! our lack of support is almost beyond belief. what worked so well when we had alonso (more often than not) is that alonso would collect the ball from deep, with the rest of midfield forward of him. sometimes he'd play a long ball, sometimes short, sometimes a killer ball but 9 times out of 10 it would mean that whoever he passed to is in an advanced position and along with the rest of our midfield, could support torres. Since he left, all our midfield seem to drop back and we just play sideways and backwards and rarely in our opponents half! When we get it torres he's usually left with 3 choices. Pass it back 20 yards, try and score a miracle goal from wherever he is, or play it short because he's had to drop so deep to receive the ball.

Against Napoli in the 1st half i decided to count the number of times a liverpool player made a SUCCESSFUL, FORWARD pass to a team mate whilst in the OPPONENTS half. This didn't have to be a chance creating pass, just one that was received and controlled. Admittedly i only started after 7mins but the total at half time was. . 16! and most of these were followed almost immediately by a pass backwards or sideways. Not the most exciting stat but a frightening indication of just how much of a threat we lack.

Redfish

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22 Oct 2010 22:24:27
Rumours about donadoni being next liverpool manager would be madness

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22 Oct 2010 22:13:20
Portsmouth 'likely to close down'

with all the talk of who we will buy and new managers coming

can every fan out there just spare a thought for portsmouth

juat spare a thought for there fans

imagine what it would be like if our great club was closed down

"It appears likely that the club will now be closed down and liquidated by the administrators, " said Pompey

all these fantasy teams that cost hundreds and hundreds of millions to build alot of fans should get in the real world

a well run club is what is needed as we will hopefully be know

tazz YNWA

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22 Oct 2010 22:10:23
Everyone keeps going on about Turan. I'm sorry but he's not in the same league as Elia. This kid can be a superstar! Also I don't think much of Pacheco, seen him a few times & I can safely say that Suso will be a better prospect.

Agreed Turan plays in the Turkish league and Elia plays in the German league, you MUPPET! !

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22 Oct 2010 22:08:05
Apparently we had a scout (probably along with many other clubs) watching Ipswich's Connor Wickham play against Watford on Tuesday night.

Ed, have you heard anything that the scout left more impressed with Marvin Sordell of Watford rather then Wickham? {ed's note - I haven't, but Wickham has been scouted regularly for a while now, so I doubt any decision will be made on that one game.}

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22 Oct 2010 22:06:05
Great job Eds, I think this is a a great site and love all the posts, however if people could spell correctly their posts might be slightly more believable.

{Editor's Note: Thanks for the thumbs up.}

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22 Oct 2010 21:58:34
This time, next week, Roy Hodgson is no longer Liverpool FC's manager. Trust me.

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22 Oct 2010 21:52:12
Now that we are safe (financially at least) let us spare a thought for Portsmouth who have been struggling for a couple of years to keep their heads above the water. Their loyal fans will be going through the same as we did a couple of weeks ago only their is no saviour on the horizon. Another club shabbily run by millionaires with no true love for the club! ! ! Lets hope they dig themselves out of it!

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22 Oct 2010 21:49:41
This is the team i would recommend for liverpool maybe after january or next season

reina
carragher Skrtel/ agger d.ayala suso/ aurelio/ insua

joaquin gerrard meireles j.cole

torres G. rossi

SUBS
jones
skrtel/ agger
suso/ aurelio/ insua
sterling
ngog
lucas
jovanovic

players INS
Joaquin
G. rossi
Ed, any other suggestions

Players OUTS
babel
kyrgaikos
poulsson
Ed, Any suggestions

I myself would hold onto the likes of lucas and ngog as they are still prospects and are looking good
as for the likes of suso, ayala, sterling this is the time they should start playing regulary as that's how they will be brilliant player for now and for future
the transfers of joaquin and rossi are more than possible and would change the team completely.
. .if you think this is a good, possible team click believable
. . if you think this team wouldn't be good click unbelievable

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22 Oct 2010 21:44:54
All the talk of torres crying out for a strike partner-imo i don't think he is, i think since xabi left the service has dried up, and we keep offering him the long ball which he doesn't like, i personally don't think he likes to play in a 2 man front line, as he has never reached the level for spain as to what he has for liverpool, also david villa now starts on the left because of this and moves in to the middle when nando is taken off. yes we need a back up striker but not some one to play up there with him. we need quaility on the flanks, and he needs playing time with cole in behind him with gerrard back in the middle of the park, its such a waste of talent when stevie is up front. team 4 blackburn
reina
kelly carra agger(if fit) konchesy
gerrard merieles
babel cole pacheco
torres
ed? {ed's note - I always though Spain played a 3 man front line, Torres as the central one, hence why Villa plays on the left of it. Personally I think Torres is in desperate need of a strike partner, one up top just doesn't work unless you have a lot of support from midfield. We are not playing high enough up the pitch to make one striker work.}

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22 Oct 2010 21:33:23
Ed with all the realistic players liverpool could buy what would be your perfect team for next year with 40 mil to spend annual profit like the new owners said + player sales ? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ? {ed's note - I would just add Llorente, Honda and Sanchez, Banega too if money stretched that far.}

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22 Oct 2010 21:28:14
Everyone keeps going on about Turan. I'm sorry but he's not in the same league as Elia. This kid can be a superstar! Also I don't think much of Pacheco, seen him a few times & I can safely say that Suso will be a better prospect.

Gav the red

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22 Oct 2010 21:25:46
To the fella who said torres's contract run's out in 18 month's , jog on, his contract run's until '2014' . Just live with the fact your club no longer has a pot to piss in.

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22 Oct 2010 21:23:54
Ryan babel could well be a good player for arsenal i think wenger could get the best out of him can't see him there thow more like abroad i think ed. but i agree wit the most of us on here that ryan babel has had plenty of chances and i think he is no good for us can't pass loses the ball alot and worst of all don't track back after the ball enough times up at anfield in jan babbs i think. should offer him to valencia for mata and cash or like wise to gala for turan wot u think ed. . . . . . .ynwa

{Editor's Note: Forget Mata and Valencia, but perhaps an exchange for Arda Turan. He is one player that I think could sell in January.}

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I think Arda Turan is the perfect player who is affordable. Amazing talent and a Liverpool fan so he work that extra yard. I think we can get him for about 13-15 million which is good for his quality. Or 7 million + babel.

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22 Oct 2010 21:21:14
Http:/ / tomkinstimes.com/ 2010/ 10/ 'crisis'-conclusion-costly-times/

Everyone calling for Woy to be given more time should read this

good read people who are supporting roy should seriousley read this

im not one for these sort of stats normally but its very scary what happened to blackburn and what is happening now with roy in charge

unbel roy to go bel roy to stay

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22 Oct 2010 21:18:34
Torres will go i can assure you! i got this rumour from the same guy who told me on Thurs night that Rooney was staying. I didn't believe him ( who would ) but he assured me that this was genuine as is the Torres rumour. The Scum want him at all cost as they haven't been scoring since they sold Ronaldo and they promised Shrek this when he signed new contract or he would have gone too. They know that Torres contract only has 18 months left and could pick him up for £30mill.

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Torres has contract until 2013, mate. And i can assure you, now that we have new owner, new manager soon, with some investments in jan window, everything will be fine again and Torres will definitely stay.

"One trophy here at Liverpool - maybe the Premier League - means more than three or four with another club." - Fernando Torres

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22 Oct 2010 21:18:22
Listen Guys - Please stop wishing for King Kenny back as manager. Yes was fantastic player good manager, and Liverpool through and through but Kenny isn't the man to turn things round at Anfield. When the King resigned due to stress of the job nearly 10 years ago now the stresses of the modern day football are even higher now. If he took over the anfield helm and results didn't improve how long would it be before you all turned on the great man. Roy wasn't my ideal choice and doesn't seem to get the best out in the players not even sure if he knows his best line up either. but must be given more time and more support from everyone, from the fans, players, everyone who wants the best for the club.
One other thing we need to get someone closer to nando up front he's not a hold the ball up type striker so needs more support and badly missing a Ma$ch type spoiler to shore up the midfield and give the defence more confidence

I have to admit I have been hoping for Kenny to take over but have to agree It would be a disaster if it didn't work out for him. Something has to happen soon thou as we are in deep s* t and getting deeper!
Aroc

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22 Oct 2010 21:07:24
Torres will go i can assure you! i got this rumour from the same guy who told me on Thurs night that Rooney was staying. I didn't believe him ( who would ) but he assured me that this was genuine as is the Torres rumour. The Scum want him at all cost as they haven't been scoring since they sold Ronaldo and they promised Shrek this when he signed new contract or he would have gone too. They know that Torres contract only has 18 months left and could pick him up for £30mill.

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22 Oct 2010 21:06:16
Belfast red i think that team is a very good one mate very attacking line up

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22 Oct 2010 21:00:05
Liverpool want youngster kieran woodley 15 year old cpfc academy boy from frenchy

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22 Oct 2010 20:58:52
Hey Ed(s) and all. Friday is gonna be over soon so i just want to take this opportunity to apologise on behalf of my source from the betting industry as well as myself. I know if Frank Rijkaard had been appointed manager today i would have been gloating on how my source was in the know due to him informing me earlier this week (which resulted in my post earlier this week). So, as a man of principle i think it's fair for me to acknowledge when i was wrong and to say i'm sorry. My source was very confident this manager change would occur today but unfortunately it hasn't.
Just a question whilst i'm here: Is there any possibility we will make a world class marque signing in either Jan or Summer window? Someone who is a proven world class player, and expected to go to Real Madrid / Barca / chelsea? or are we just not in that caliber yet?
South African YNWA

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22 Oct 2010 20:58:02
22 Oct 2010 20:27:11
Has the ed who was 99.999999% certaain roy was on his way as soon as the deal for the new manager is complete still of the same certainty don't let me down now mate my reps on the line now (in work anyway) aswell as yours
Ed why no answer?

{Editor's Note: A different Ed - but it makes sense that a new manager would be found before letting Roy Hodgson go. However, did this other Ed suggest any timescales? Christmas? End of the season? I am sure everything will be just fine in the end.}

he seemed to say it was pretty imminent either side of sundays game on yr other point everything might be fine at the end but only if the board acts nows unless yr a blue lol {ed's note - I am still sure that a new guy is being lined up, what I am not sure about is how long till he can be put in place. I am assuming that it would be sooner rather than later as they are looking now, and that is the impression I was given.}

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22 Oct 2010 20:57:39
Listen Guys - Please stop wishing for King Kenny back as manager. Yes was fantastic player good manager, and Liverpool through and through but Kenny isn't the man to turn things round at Anfield. When the King resigned due to stress of the job nearly 10 years ago now the stresses of the modern day football are even higher now. If he took over the anfield helm and results didn't improve how long would it be before you all turned on the great man. Roy wasn't my ideal choice and doesn't seem to get the best out in the players not even sure if he knows his best line up either. but must be given more time and more support from everyone, from the fans, players, everyone who wants the best for the club.
One other thing we need to get someone closer to nando up front he's not a hold the ball up type striker so needs more support and badly missing a Ma$ch type spoiler to shore up the midfield and give the defence more confidence.

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22 Oct 2010 20:52:16
Bloody O'Neill

I have heard that a deal is being placed for O'Neill . . . . as i have stated before i hope not and would sooner set fire to my own head.

Have you heard anything on this ED ?
LFC1 {ed's note - I haven't mate sorry, but I have not heard much regarding the new guy.}

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22 Oct 2010 20:49:43
22 Oct 2010 20:25:41
Just watched torres and carra taking penos blindfolded on liverpool.tv and afterwards noticed carra had a blackeye , not sure if he had it before the napoli game .maybe he had blurred vision at halftime and that's why no 2nd half appearance.
ngs77

That would be skrtel who was responsible for that

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22 Oct 2010 20:37:26
Donadoni is new mgr. Mrs broughton

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22 Oct 2010 20:37:19
22 Oct 2010 20:25:41
Just watched torres and carra taking penos blindfolded on liverpool.tv and afterwards noticed carra had a blackeye , not sure if he had it before the napoli game .maybe he had blurred vision at halftime and that's why no 2nd half appearance.

its a couple of weeks old

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22 Oct 2010 20:33:01
Ryan babel could well be a good player for arsenal i think wenger could get the best out of him can't see him there thow more like abroad i think ed. but i agree wit the most of us on here that ryan babel has had plenty of chances and i think he is no good for us can't pass loses the ball alot and worst of all don't track back after the ball enough times up at anfield in jan babbs i think. should offer him to valencia for mata and cash or like wise to gala for turan wot u think ed. . . . . . .ynwa

{Editor's Note: Forget Mata and Valencia, but perhaps an exchange for Arda Turan. He is one player that I think could sell in January.}

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22 Oct 2010 20:27:11
Has the ed who was 99.999999% certaain roy was on his way as soon as the deal for the new manager is complete still of the same certainty don't let me down now mate my reps on the line now (in work anyway) aswell as yours
Ed why no answer?

{Editor's Note: A different Ed - but it makes sense that a new manager would be found before letting Roy Hodgson go. However, did this other Ed suggest any timescales? Christmas? End of the season? I am sure everything will be just fine in the end.}

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22 Oct 2010 20:25:41
Just watched torres and carra taking penos blindfolded on liverpool.tv and afterwards noticed carra had a blackeye , not sure if he had it before the napoli game .maybe he had blurred vision at halftime and that's why no 2nd half appearance.
ngs77

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22 Oct 2010 20:24:45
Loved schuster as a player but didn't he bomb out at real madrid

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22 Oct 2010 20:24:35
_h_t_tp:/ / tomkinstimes.com/ 2010/ 10/ 'crisis'-conclusion-costly-times/

Everyone calling for Woy to be given more time should read this

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22 Oct 2010 20:24:34
No idea on budgets or replacements, just that if we don't get six points in the next 2 games he will be gone.
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So failure to win on Sunday and he'll be gone by Monday then?

StevieW

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22 Oct 2010 20:23:26
Hi ed i posted the last comment about Aguirre and i left my email to you would you please e-mail me i would like to tell you something quite impressing {ed's note - I have emailed you, but if you haven't received anything just email me - editor@football-rumours.com}

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22 Oct 2010 20:22:49
". .Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."

Carragher

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22 Oct 2010 20:18:32
Am I the only person who believes that Babel would be a great player under Wenger? He has the talent without question. He just needs coaching, rafa didn't do that and Woy isn't either. I fear for the great deal of talent that we have. Pacecho (spelling) Amoo Shevley Kelly should be playing more at least 10-15 mins a game.

Just loom at the kids we lost, Rafa could have made them something, the next fowler, Owen, macmoneyman. Instead nothing they became could have beens.

When was the last time a 16 year old hit the seen like Owen or fowler with his 5 goals.

Oh yea diao had the worst first touch ;)

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22 Oct 2010 20:15:36
What do you think of Javier aguirre ed,

{Editor's Note: I doubt he'd get a work permit easily.}

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22 Oct 2010 20:14:53
Has the ed who was 99.999999% certaain roy was on his way as soon as the deal for the new manager is complete still of the same certainty don't let me down now mate my reps on the line now (in work anyway) aswell as yours

kopman

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22 Oct 2010 20:11:58
Macca .
Are you sure its two games!
I can't wait for him to leave. Even if it meant that we would have draw or lose to blackburn.
His style is utter carp. I feel My eyes will bleed slowly. So unlike the way liverpool play. . No one seems happy. But he keeps stroking his chin. Rather checkin if its still hangin there.
Who do you think will replace him?
And what do you think will be our transfer budget.

Hi Mate,

I totally agree, seems like a good guy but totally out of his depth.

No idea on budgets or replacements, just that if we don't get six points in the next 2 games he will be gone.

Macca

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22 Oct 2010 20:11:06
Hi i posted the below possibilities earlier on i seem to have forgotten javier Aguirre- done well at atletico Madrid and also i forgotten about Dunga
What Do You think of them ed, or do you think i should stick with what i had before
and thankyou to the person who mentioned about me before because i posted about Bernd Schuster being a possibility.

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If we need a striker why not
guissepe rossi- villarreal
and if we need a winger why not Joaquin- Valencia
and a new man in Charge, only possibilities. .
King Kenny, Jurgen Klinsmann, Claudio Ranieri, Marco van Basten, Bernd Schuster, Frank Rijkaard, mauricio pelligrino.

what do you think of any of them Ed {ed's note - both players would definitely improve the team. You know I had forgotten about Bernd Schuster, I seem to remember him playing some really good football with his teams (I think Getafe?).}

{ed's note - personally I wouldn't want Dunga, he even turned Brazil into a boring team to watch, imagine what he could do to us?}

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22 Oct 2010 20:07:47
Id love kenny bk as manager if and its a big if they get rid of roy. i think kenny would defo get us bk up the table. the only question wud be. . cud he still attract the star players? believable if ya think he cud. . un believable if ya think he couldnt.

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22 Oct 2010 20:05:02
I keep hearing the same arguements on what the so called criteria for being an (authentic) Liverpool fan ie living in the city, holding a season ticket or going to every game home and away etc.this is crazy as we do not specify these needs of our managers or players.so everyone who supports our great team regardless of how many times you visit Anfield or weather you live within 2miles or 20,000 miles has a valid oppinion.the way i see it the bigger the family the stronger and better we are.YNWA


hipkop07

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22 Oct 2010 20:04:26
Did you find out what happened at half time Ed, for him to sub Carra? not that i disagreed with the decision, as i thought we defended better 2nd half. {ed's note - not yet I haven't mate, I am not getting anything, I think the players might have had a warning to keep their mouths shut to be honest.}

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22 Oct 2010 20:00:05
In repl to the below:
He was Italy coach in Euro 2008, got to quarters and lost to Spain. Still, I wouldn't choose him over some of the other options. Main point of my original post was to highlighted the number of sources with lfc manager stories. -The origin of the goal.com story is an Italian newspaper. .

LFC_MIKE_YNWA


22 Oct 2010 17:52:19
Ed do u know who is this guy we are linked with Roberto Donadoni. Heard he was former italy manager. Will he be better than rijkaard or pelligrini.?

{Editor's Note: I don't know how good a rumour it is and I don't know too much about the man aside from I recall him being sacked by Napoli last year.}

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22 Oct 2010 19:55:11
Man city would sell to english team if the offers decent enough, , and if not then bad business sense and they need to look to sell the club to someone who knows business lol cos they won't make money by given players worth 20mill for less than they r worth to a team outside the premier league jus so they rnt selling to the prem teams they cearly don't have faith in there team to be better than what they r selling to others lol


Citys owners don't give a toss about making money though that's the whole point. .They'll keep throwing and losing cash at it till they win

Dodge

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22 Oct 2010 19:55:03
All this "new manager" is all well and good, but we should be backing Woy. I know it's the worst start to a season for like 60 years, but lets all be honest the cracks where starting to show last season with Rafa at the helm.
Woy has made a few signings and yes a couple are questionable (poulson & konchesky) but the squad he was left with was far worse than he & we (the fans) realised and he only had the money that he could get from sales.
Now NESV are the new owners and hopefully we will have some money to spend plus anything he can bargin with i.e. Babel, Jovan, Maxi then we can start to rebuild. Last night game did show sum promise i believe Woy does need time and support from the fans, players and owners also Stevie G, Torres and Miereles are fit fully for Sunday.
If there are real reason for the club to change manager in the near future or when Woy's contract ends then Joachim Loew is the man for the job.
This is Anfield and as a club and collective we should have learnt alot for the trails and tribulatsion of the last 3 years or so.
So lets not brand Woy a failure yet, lets make sure he does not walk alone.

Markolfc.

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22 Oct 2010 19:52:52
Arent we all forgetting one name for manager, martin jol? plays really good football, look at the way he had spurs playing with poor squad as most of current squad werent there then.with king kenny as director of football and bring back big sammy and god in coaching roles.

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22 Oct 2010 19:50:27
Podolski is the right man for our attacking options, he is top draw. Cant see too many signings in Jan if i'm honest, The current team need to click. I think Roy has failed unfortunatly, its a shame as i did rate his appointment. Anyhow sammy lee needs to follow Roy out the door and i prey we get an attacking coach!

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22 Oct 2010 19:48:56
Roberto Donadoni, ex Italy manager and currently unemployed, to be next liverpool manager

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22 Oct 2010 19:48:28
To the person who posted that Bernd Schuster should be considered as manager - GREAT CALL . i completely forgot about him , just looked at his bio , his teams played great attractive football , and looks like he's not afraid to make controversial decisions , he played for barca then moved to real madrid then on to atl madrid .he's now at besiktas and is in the last year of his contract.

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22 Oct 2010 19:44:21
"On this lad lavezzi I for one would not sign him don't think he is anything special."

Also I think he was busted in the 2nd half, so fitness looks like a big issue

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22 Oct 2010 19:44:12
22 Oct 2010 18:34:18

Jus watching sky news and allardyce press con, he has the fattest I have ever seen! On this lad lavezzi I for one would not sign him don't think he is anything special. Also to sort out the centre back prob we need a left footer and a right footer. Skrtel and the Greek are no-footers absolute rubbish. Ed how can I apply for roy's job? Will we sign 3 players ed I just fancy 2 wingers and a striker. I'm gonna put my team out like this against Blackburn.
Reina

Johnson. Carra. Wilson. Aurelio

Gerrard mereiles shelvey

Pacheco. Torres. Cole

Bench:
Jones, agger, suso, konchesky, ngog, Kelly, amoo
Any thoughts? ?
Fowler is god

Not bad if you want to lose. with an injured Johnson, and shelvey not wuite ready for prm match we need to win, wilson who has never played in a real cometitive game for liverool and with carra.
i liked what i saw earlier:
. . . . . .Torres
. . . .Cole
Jovanovic. . . . . Amoo
. . .Meireles. .Gerrard
Konk Sktrel Carragher Kelly

Amoo giving us the fast tricky width we need, Gerrard and Meireles controlling the midfield, cole in the position he looks best in.

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22 Oct 2010 19:42:59
Liverpool to buy

ashley young from villa
scott parker from west ham
gary cahill from bolton
and striker

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22 Oct 2010 19:41:45
I know this isn't a rumour but can i ask the question what's happened with Pacheo is he still at liverpool or has he gone on loan and if he is still at liverpool why isn't he getting a chance one of the top scorers in the U21 champs(or wasit under 19)

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22 Oct 2010 19:39:31
I think some people on here are living in the clouds. It's true that the squad needs a complete overhaul but it's not going to happen all in one go. It would mean a load more poor results while players settle in. First and foremost we need to steady the ship! Although we can't sink to much lower (1 place in fact). As for sacking Roy after 8 games in the PL, it has never been the LFC way. Although I don't think he has long left, maybe till Jan unless we lose the next 2/ 3 games. His comments after the 2-0 loss to THEM were maybe more aimed towards boosting the players than us. I believe it's very simple, the squad punched way above it's weight to finish 2nd. Not to say we don't or didn't have some very good players. Basically Masch and Alonso but to all the "Rafa please come back" people, lets not forget why Xabi left in the first place. Rafa's poor man management i.e trying to sell him to anyone that would have him. I do concede that if we had money it probably wouldn't have gone down like that but it did. We need another striker yes but do you really think that Manu the merc is right for the club even if we could afford him. We need players with grit, passion, the will to fight for the team rather than just give up (Babel) and an understanding of what an honour it is to wear the famous Red Jersey! That's not to say I think we should sell Babel, he has raw talent just needs guidence and some confidence in him. There are too many mediocre players out there and quality is hard to find. I don't know why alot of people want to keep Aurelio, I personally think we should have kept Riise. Ok, so he had a few bad games just before he left but that might have been to do with the fact he'd been made bankrupt. Money troubles get to us all. Atleast he knew what it meant to be a Red. Anyway, spilt milk.
OUTS
Krygiakos, Poulson, Konchesky, Maxi, Skrtel, Itandje, El Zhar, Degen, Aurelio, Jovanovic

Last season I would have also put Ngog in the OUTS pile but I think he has shown enough to be given some time.

Trouble is, who would be the INS

STRIKER
NOT! Bent
K. Huntelaar
L. Lopez
? ?
Or play Kuyt here

WINGERS
A. Young
E. Hazard/ J. Mata
M. Bastos
Hulk

MIDFIELD (Holding/ Tackling) Would be good to find a players who could pass too. Instead of having 1 who can pass and 1 who can tackle i.e Xabi & Mach.
? ?
S. Mbia?
(any sudgestions ed?)

DEF
LB? ? (I would have kept Insua)
CB? ? , Cahill - English

Any ideas on the essay ed?
JR YNWA {ed's note - what about Defour, Banega or Javi Martinez in midfield?}

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22 Oct 2010 19:39:17
I may be reading to much into this but martin oneil has had options to manage put befor him and he turned them down maybe waiting for the liverpool job.
and now one of his favourite players from his aston villa days suddenly does a u turn on signing a new deal what odds will i get on martin oneil as liverpool manager by xmas and ashley young one of his first buys.

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22 Oct 2010 19:37:18
The fact of the matter none of you have a clue whos coming, when roys leaving/ sacked.i read on this the other day roy was resigning after the game, he also was getting sacked after the game and frank r was going to be new manager now everyones name is in the hat i wish all of you would get your facts right before posting bulls* t.

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22 Oct 2010 19:31:06
22 Oct 2010 19:11:24
Does pellagrini speak any english do you no ed? as he is a great coach imo, but so was ramos before he went to spurs, and he cudnt speak much english. {ed's note - reports vary on that, so I am not sure, I have never heard him attempt to speak English though.}

ed- I can tell you for certain Pellegrini definately speaks english to a reasonable level. I think there is a video on youtube of him being interviewed about Madrids interest in signing Alonso from LFC.

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22 Oct 2010 19:30:07
Landrup name came up as the next manager, Strange he was in the Carlserg Lounge on the last game of season.(Chelsea Game) i know he was a guest of Molbys But funny all the same.


Muggitzo

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22 Oct 2010 19:30:03
22 Oct 2010 18:48:28
Torres to have meeting next week where he will tell NESV he has has enough and wants to leave. Man U have already tapped him up and are preparing a massive offer Liverpool can't turn down. This is the reason why Rooney stayed. He was told of this and that the Scum will break the bank to give him quality he wants to play upfront with.

(2) (6)
dont talk c* p N.E.S.V. will be talking to torres next week to ask for a recomendation for a strike partner in an effort to keep him sweet.
man utd can't afford to offer the money to buy torres and the only reason rooney is staying is because the t* t can't speak spanish or english for that matter and his mrs didn't like the bad news reports that came out worried about there image rights

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22 Oct 2010 19:29:19
Ed, any managerail updates?


{Editor's Note: Roy remains manager.}

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22 Oct 2010 19:29:09
Out of who we've been linked with - - > Manuel Pellegrini ( Prefared Choice )

Who we havn't been linked with - - > Jorge Jesus

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22 Oct 2010 19:28:41
Why not give young lad suso a chance out there he looks brilliant

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22 Oct 2010 19:27:35
Please sell ryan babel in january, nothing against the guy but he simply doesn't cut the mustard. . wish him the best of luck (pat on the back for the lad considering how long he stayed commited to us).

sell him for around 10 mill and sign someone like Mata or Vuckinic please Woy
YNWA
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Considering his form over the last 2 years we should be happy with £5-6 million for the lad. No offence to the lad, but for £10 mill i would expect alot more from a player. Ed?

StevieW

{Editor's Note: £5-6M is spot on.}

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22 Oct 2010 19:22:33
22 Oct 2010 18:18:44
Roy hodgson will be sacked on monday morning, i believe there are 2 managers in the running to replace him

jamie

roy was getting sacked after the napoli game, then it was 6 oclock tonight, now its monday

if you keep goin long enough you will be right one day! !

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22 Oct 2010 19:20:30
If we need a striker why not
guissepe rossi- villarreal
and if we need a winger why not Joaquin- Valencia
and a new man in Charge, only possibilities. .
King Kenny, Jurgen Klinsmann, Claudio Ranieri, Marco van Basten, Bernd Schuster, Frank Rijkaard, mauricio pelligrino.

what do you think of any of them Ed {ed's note - both players would definitely improve the team. You know I had forgotten about Bernd Schuster, I seem to remember him playing some really good football with his teams (I think Getafe?).}

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22 Oct 2010 19:20:25
Please sell ryan babel in january, nothing against the guy but he simply doesn't cut the mustard. . wish him the best of luck (pat on the back for the lad considering how long he stayed commited to us).

sell him for around 10 mill and sign someone like Mata or Vuckinic please Woy
YNWA

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22 Oct 2010 19:20:09
"22 Oct 2010 19:01:04
Top 5 managers for the job. .
1. Guus hiddink
2 Pellegrini
3.Riykaard
4.Dunga
5. Kenny
Options 2 to 5 are credible options based on availability. Option 1 is the one who i wish would get the job"

My 2p for what it's worth. .
1. Great manager, but is not afraid to use negative tactics either. Slightly worrying, he isn't afraid of a bit of 'Arry-esque accounting.
2. Top choice. Plays good football and managed to hold together a Madrid side made up of douches and egos as well as getting Villareal punching significantly above their weight.
3. Would be my 2nd choice. Not given credit enough for reintroducing the streamlined total football style to Barca in a ruthless manner. Would blood a few youngsters and stop us playing two holding mids.
4. Sorry, but any man that makes Brazil play boring football shouldn't be allowed within a country mile of an already stagnant side as we currently are.
5. I don't want to see Kenny back in the hotseat simply because it would threaten his status. if he failed spectacularly there's always a chance he'd walk away completely. He should be given a role that he can continue without the unnecessary pressure and as such remain a legend with an unblemished record.

I'm sad to see that Roy hasn't been given a great deal of time, but once the dressing room is lost you can either replace half the team or just the manager and in this case the latter is preferable.

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22 Oct 2010 19:19:35
Liverpool agasinst Blackburn should play:(2)
Torres
Cole
Jovanovic Amoo
Gerrard Meireles
Konchesky Kelly
Skrtel Carragher
But will probably play:(1)
Torres
Gerrard
Cole Maxi
Poulsen Meireles
Konk Carragher
Kyrgiakos Skrtel

Any thoughts? what do u prefer? Believe team 1 Unbelieve team 2

Ed? {ed's note - I would prefer your choice mate, no question that the team looks better without Poulsen and Amoo could bring the pace we are missing.}

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22 Oct 2010 19:15:43
Ed I posted earlier today in regards to your inside information (2 players), you were hoping to talk to them today. Any update?
Aroc {ed's note - I haven't got hold of either or friends that are willing to talk about it.}

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22 Oct 2010 19:13:30
Torres to have meeting next week where he will tell NESV he has has enough and wants to leave. Man U have already tapped him up and are preparing a massive offer Liverpool can't turn down. This is the reason why Rooney stayed. He was told of this and that the Scum will break the bank to give him quality he wants to play upfront with.

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Three Things Wrong with this Post -

A) Torres will NEVER go to Man Utd. Ferguson won't have him and Liverpool won't sell him.
B) Man Utd have already 'broken the bank'.
C) Rooney isn't staying, he just signed a five year contract so his value goes sky high, out of respect for Man Utd and what they have done for him. He'll be gone, don't worry.

Do you think, considering his thoughts on the ambition of Manchester United, it would be wise to maybe just sign a 1 or 2 year contract to see how things go?

Glazer loves it that Roon wants to leave, he can now stop s* tting his pants for a few weeks about repaying debts!

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22 Oct 2010 19:13:01
To the person who hit the unbelievable button on this post- - Hope this Roberto Donadoni rumour isn't true , jesus christ if hodgson does go lets all pray its not o'neill, donadoni or rijkaard . only three men should be considered for the job .
1. pellergrini
2. laudrup
3. bielsa
ngs77
who do you think should be considered for the lfc job
ngs77

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22 Oct 2010 19:11:24
Does pellagrini speak any english do you no ed? as he is a great coach imo, but so was ramos before he went to spurs, and he cudnt speak much english. {ed's note - reports vary on that, so I am not sure, I have never heard him attempt to speak English though.}

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22 Oct 2010 19:08:48
"22 Oct 2010 18:48:28
Torres to have meeting next week where he will tell NESV he has has enough and wants to leave. Man U have already tapped him up and are preparing a massive offer Liverpool can't turn down. This is the reason why Rooney stayed. He was told of this and that the Scum will break the bank to give him quality he wants to play upfront with."

ha , never going to happen. It's about as likely as us signing Rooney was. Utd lack the funds to make an offer we can't refuse and i highly doubt Torres, who's already complained of the physicality of the league and his love for the club, would suddenly go to Utd. He's already turned down similar interest in the past, why would he swap sides for a club that'll be heading down the same sell-to-fund-debt road? If he goes it'll be Barca or Italy.

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22 Oct 2010 19:05:22
I'm watching the latest training pictures of LFC (22sept) and there were pictures where stevie and nando shaking hands with roy. I know this must be a usual thing to do at training session, maybe after the session is finished, but it's funny how they bother to capture it now, and not in the training sessions before. *hint hint* :p

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22 Oct 2010 19:01:26
Hope this Roberto Donadoni rumour isn't true , jesus christ if hodgson does go lets all pray its not o'neill, donadoni or rijkaard . only three men should be considered for the job .
1. pellergrini
2. laudrup
3. bielsa
ngs77

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22 Oct 2010 19:01:04
Top 5 managers for the job. .
1. Guus hiddink
2 Pellegrini
3.Riykaard
4.Dunga
5. Kenny
Options 2 to 5 are credible options based on availability. Option 1 is the one who i wish would get the job

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22 Oct 2010 19:00:05
"22 Oct 2010 18:44:51
". .Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."

N'Gog"

Leave it Ryan, we get your point!

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22 Oct 2010 18:54:42
C'mon its not been updated for an hour now! Chop chop

Harry5

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22 Oct 2010 18:53:57
"22 Oct 2010 17:26:24
"Hodgson will be around a little longer (new owners have other issues to attend to e.g. board, CEO search & they have given their backing) - looks more and more likely the case now"

"If it's true that Joe Januszewski is likely to be the new man in charge then i doubt we'll have to wait much longer for Hodgson's dismissal."

Joe is passionate about the club, there's no doubt. But he's still very wet behind the ears. Finding the right CEO with the vision and know-how to drive the club forward is absolutely paramount - you simply can't hand it to someone who is still relatively new to the group and holding a VP position in corp sales, right?"

Well who you or i'd give it to doesn't matter, it's NESV's decision and unless the various rumours are entirely unfounded (very possible given the Mail and good ol' Dunc have reported it) then taking a punt of someone from the business side of things may be the direction we are heading in. Bear in mind Henry brought in/ promoted similar figures during the overhaul of the Red Sox, placing a solid business structure as a priority, then a senior VP of corporate sales who is enthusiastic about the club sounds not out of the realms of possibility. People considered Theo Epstein wet behind the ears too, and he hasn't done badly.

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22 Oct 2010 18:53:20
If it's true that player power got rid of rafa, got hodgson appointed and now will get him sacked then something has gone extremely wrong. Whoever we get in is never going to please everyone so what then?

It's a shame that football has now got to the stage where money is the true deciding factor. Look at Rooney; clearly all that was a ploy to get more money. no-one is going to persuade me that his u-turn was because within 48hrs he has been convinced that utd are going to buy world class signings! I can just see that now: "hi wayne, remember the other day when we you asked about our future and i had no answer for you? well it never occured me to tell you that everything will be fine!" "Really? great, where do i sign?"

Even youth players have agents now who's only interest is maximising their cut. Loyalty is nothing anymore! Football is fast becoming like the NFL where teams are almost completely different year after year. It's a joke. The sad thing is that it won't change because there is just far too much money in the sport. I agree with the ed's comments about getting rid of ANYONE who isn't prepared to give 100% for the club. The problem unfortunately is that finding quality players who are prepared to do this is getting harder and harder.

I support Liverpool and i will always support Liverpool regardless of who is in our team. . except poulsen, he really is awfull, lol!

Redfish

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22 Oct 2010 18:48:28
Torres to have meeting next week where he will tell NESV he has has enough and wants to leave. Man U have already tapped him up and are preparing a massive offer Liverpool can't turn down. This is the reason why Rooney stayed. He was told of this and that the Scum will break the bank to give him quality he wants to play upfront with.

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22 Oct 2010 18:44:51
". .Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."

N'Gog

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22 Oct 2010 18:43:10
In reality Inter thrashed Spurs last night. Rafa completely out thought Redknapp tactically. The scoreline was made respectable by 1 very good Spurs player.
But can you imagine if Rafa had taken Liverpool to Inter last season and been beaten in such a manner, what would the West ham, Spurs supporting London TV, Radio and press have said. It just shows how Redknapp is the current media darling and the bias against Liverpool.
Reddknapp is nothing more than a reasonably good manager who can only take a club so far. Benitez on the other hand has an excellent record in European competitions. Yet Redknapp keeps making stupid comments supporting Tom Hicks about the finance he had from Hicks' back pocket.
Both Redknapp Snr and Jnr are both becoming hate figures for Liverpool fans, continually making totally incorrect comments about the club.
The media ought to be looking into why Harry Redknapp and Kevin Bond are regularly seen in a north London branch of WH Smith making regular purchases of Large A4 brown envelopes. I wonder why?
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THE MYSTERY WORLD OF MR HARRY REDKNAPP. CAN'T WAIT FOR THE PETER STORRIE TRIAL TO UNMASK ALL THOSE 'DODGY' DEALS THAT REDKNAPP WAS INVOLVED IN. THE WORD 'BUNG' COMES TO MIND.
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H.Redknapp again making incorrect comments about the managerial position at Liverpool today. It's getting absolutely ridiculous the regularity of these comments from the Redknapps about Liverpool.

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22 Oct 2010 18:30:03
Forget adebayor, forget swp, bridge or any other man city player, city will not strengthen teams they consider to be a possible threat. two players bein looked at from sunderland tho, cattermole and bent, also a loan offer with a veiw to buy at the end of the season for lisandro lopez who as fallen out with the coach at lyon.

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22 Oct 2010 18:26:25
FACT! Just been speaking to kenny lunt, hereford fc one of gerrards best mates from his early days, NESV are in talks with new managers, And i can guarentee the one they want is martin oniell, he as said he will take over if he has the money to sign ashley young and Ablongahor, this is fact and it will be announced that roy after Blackburnas one of the clauses in his contract stating new owners can do so for a small fee.

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22 Oct 2010 18:22:49
Latest managerial news from my friends who work at a large tv company (not sky).
they have been told, hodgsons replacement is priority for nesv , but they will not go public until a statement of intent replacement has been selected, and hodgson knows he is playing the interim waiting game. their sources cannot confirm candedates , but three names have been mentioned, they are : manuel pelegrini, leonardo araujo and frank rijkaard as i am told, please don't shoot the messenger, my sources are usually 70/ 30!

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22 Oct 2010 18:22:09
Macca .
Are you sure its two games!
I can't wait for him to leave. Even if it meant that we would have draw or lose to blackburn.
His style is utter crap. I feel My eyes will bleed slowly. So unlike the way liverpool play. . No one seems happy. But he keeps stroking his chin. Rather checkin if its still hangin there.
Who do you think will replace him?
And what do you think will be our transfer budget.

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22 Oct 2010 18:22:01
Can I ask, People are saying about Mavinga as a back-up as I recall he doesn't have a squad number?, didn't he and Roy have an arguement and well. . yeh?

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22 Oct 2010 18:19:37
Liverpool hav made an approach to phillipe mexes, also a pre contract offer will be made to taiwo. glen johnson has failed to deliver the form he showed at pompy and kelly will be given till the end of the season to prove he can fill the gap! with valencia in a little bit more of a stable condition it wud take massive offers to prize away there 2 stars banega, and juan mata, so defour, and jose antonio reyes are bein looked at instead. who ever may be incharge cum january the board are keen to do all they can to keep torres happy, he along with steven gerrard will have a huge influence over possible incomings. theres alot of hype surrounding arda turan but this will not happen any time soon. roy hodgson will be sacked if liverpool are still in the bottom 3 after the chelsea game. i said the other day roy will not stand down and after his comments to day i stand by that. but he his not filling the new owners with much confidence that he can turn things around.

hang in there felloiw fans a few more weeks of heartbreak and things will start to look a bit brighter.

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22 Oct 2010 18:18:44
Roy hodgson will be sacked on monday morning, i believe there are 2 managers in the running to replace him

jamie

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22 Oct 2010 18:14:28
Goal.com are reporting Roberto Donadoni is a candidate for the managers job.

The general media interest seems a clear cut case of no smoke without fire, lets hope NESV pick the right guy. Donadoni wouldn't be my choice tho.

bel if you agree
unbel if not

Hell no! , the guy has a win percentage of about 30 percent in club football. . . we'd still be in the bottom half of the table!

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22 Oct 2010 18:14:11
Urby Emanuelson, on a bosman next summer, if Rijkaard comes in. I think he can solve our leftside weakness. What do you think Ed

{Editor's Note: There are better options. Marveaux, Drenthe ....}

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22 Oct 2010 18:03:10
Is rijkaard the only person being linked with the job or is there anybody else?

who else could do a job an please don't say MON

ed?

{Editor's Note: Donadoni is being linked.}

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22 Oct 2010 18:01:37
Ed i kno you are all for more width who do you think we shud bring in?

{Editor's Note: Sylvain Marveaux or Arda Turan. My preference is for the former.}

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22 Oct 2010 18:01:03
Ed, do you think, the club is looking at a possible replacement for Roy Hodgson? i hope his days are over,
sooner. .

{Editor's Note: They probably are.}

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22 Oct 2010 18:00:49
Ppl keep goin on that we need another striker but i think torres works better as a lone front man linking up with gerrard an the likes so surely we need another creative midfielder, so we don't rely on gerrard to be feeding torres all the time

ed your thoughts ?

{Editor's Note: The club need another striker.}

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22 Oct 2010 18:00:32
Ed know anything about the lad lavezzi

{Editor's Note: Others rate him more highly than I do. He is Ok and that is about it for me.}

someone posted a rumour saying roy had stayed in naples to talk to napoli chairman about a possilbe transfer think its true ed or anyone care to elaborate on this ?

{Editor's Note: I don't know anything about that. He would be pretty much a second Dirk Kuyt.}

have to disagree good attacking threat and looks like hes strong enough to cope with the premierships physical side unlike a certain mr aqualani

{Editor's Note: You cannot compare him to Aquilani in any way or form. He is Argentinian not Italian and plays a different position. In fact he playes the same position as Kuyt - hence my point.}

the only reason im comparing him like aqualani is in strength and they are both attacking players

{Editor's Note: Aquilani is a midfield player not a striker.}

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22 Oct 2010 17:52:19
Ed do u know who is this guy we are linked with Roberto Donadoni. Heard he was former italy manager. Will he be better than rijkaard or pelligrini.?

{Editor's Note: I don't know how good a rumour it is and I don't know too much about the man aside from I recall him being sacked by Napoli last year.}

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22 Oct 2010 17:51:17
Goal.com are reporting Roberto Donadoni is a candidate for the managers job.

The general media interest seems a clear cut case of no smoke without fire, lets hope NESV pick the right guy. Donadoni wouldn't be my choice tho.

bel if you agree
unbel if not


LFC_MIKE_YNWA

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22 Oct 2010 17:45:44
Ed know anything about the lad lavezzi

{Editor's Note: Others rate him more highly than I do. He is Ok and that is about it for me.}

someone posted a rumour saying roy had stayed in naples to talk to napoli chairman about a possilbe transfer think its true ed or anyone care to elaborate on this ?

{Editor's Note: I don't know anything about that. He would be pretty much a second Dirk Kuyt.}

have to disagree good attacking threat and looks like hes strong enough to cope with the premierships physical side unlike a certain mr aqualani

{Editor's Note: You cannot compare him to Aquilani in any way or form. He is Argentinian not Italian and plays a different position. In fact he playes the same position as Kuyt - hence my point.}

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22 Oct 2010 17:44:06
Macca, any news on the manager front?

I have been told he has two games to sort it out.

Macca

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22 Oct 2010 17:39:49
Ed know anything about the lad lavezzi

{Editor's Note: Others rate him more highly than I do. He is Ok and that is about it for me.}

someone posted a rumour saying roy had stayed in naples to talk to napoli chairman about a possilbe transfer think its true ed or anyone care to elaborate on this ?

{Editor's Note: I don't know anything about that. He would be pretty much a second Dirk Kuyt.}

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22 Oct 2010 17:35:47
Macca, any news on the manager front?

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22 Oct 2010 17:35:20
Going on what i've seen and heard in the last couple of weeks, it would suggest to me that Hodgson's last game may be chelsea at anfield. The new owners did say they would give him time and from what i can see we will probably draw against blackburn, draw or lose against bolton(our away form is awful). .and theres no way roy can put out a team that will beat chelsea even at home.

so, 2 points in 3 games leaving us in the bottom 3 possibly in 20th. . . . .NESV are not going to put up with that. . . we were in the bottom 3 before they came in and we will be after the chelsea game.

so, Roy to go 7th November. . .

not very far from my thoughts before everton game that i posted sp site. i said 6-9 point upto spurs game, roy, he will be gone for that game. and king will come and revive team and start with a win just as harry did startin with liverpool when spurs sitting bottom table under ramos. after the everton game iv thought he has to go now and i would welcome the dutch magic man to do a barca and play nice sexy football that's watchable.

can't see us getting more than 5 points before the spurs game, so i'd say roy is a goner then. .

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22 Oct 2010 17:34:16
Ed wats ur opinions on who we shud get rid of and who we shud keep

{Editor's Note: It depends on what happens between now and Christmas and between then and the end of the season. If anyone wants to go then let them. If anyone can't get their head in gear by the end of the season, then they have to go as well. A little tweaking in January is all that is needed.}

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22 Oct 2010 17:31:29
Why do so many ppl want to ship ngog out. He is playing well lately and looks a decent forward who is improving.And also getting rid of him wud mean we would need to buy 2 strikers

january no i wouldn't get rid of ngog, , , id jus get 1 proven good striker, , , but next summer i would sell ngog and buy another proven striker, , ,

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22 Oct 2010 17:29:17
Ed know anything about the lad lavezzi

{Editor's Note: Others rate him more highly than I do. He is Ok and that is about it for me.}

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22 Oct 2010 17:28:52
22 Oct 2010 16:39:45
As we know there are some truly great managerial choices for roys replacement, and we all speculate and have our own favourites for the job!
so based on the fact that we will have to pay roy 3 million gbp to leave, will it limit NESV to managers who are at the moment without a club thus to remove the need to pay again to prize a top manager from their present club! what do you think!

- No, I don't think so. They are a shrewd bunch and will be able to comprehend the fact that spending more money on a top manager could reap rewards in the future. You have to speculate to accumulate as they say.

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22 Oct 2010 17:26:24
"Hodgson will be around a little longer (new owners have other issues to attend to e.g. board, CEO search & they have given their backing) - looks more and more likely the case now"

"If it's true that Joe Januszewski is likely to be the new man in charge then i doubt we'll have to wait much longer for Hodgson's dismissal."

Joe is passionate about the club, there's no doubt. But he's still very wet behind the ears. Finding the right CEO with the vision and know-how to drive the club forward is absolutely paramount - you simply can't hand it to someone who is still relatively new to the group and holding a VP position in corp sales, right?

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22 Oct 2010 17:26:06
Hernanes of sao paulo is worth a look at

wudnt you agree ed ?

{Editor's Note: He was transferred to Lazio in the summer.}

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22 Oct 2010 17:18:39
Why do so many ppl want to ship ngog out. He is playing well lately and looks a decent forward who is improving.And also getting rid of him wud mean we would need to buy 2 strikers

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22 Oct 2010 17:17:31
Mata not going anywhere. He is just about to sign a new contract with Valencia.

Macca

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22 Oct 2010 17:16:14
Ed who realistically do you think we will sign in jan?

{Editor's Note: There is a good opportunity to snatch Guillaume Hoarau from the clutches of Houllier and Aston Villa - the player has shown a desire to play for Liverpool, he is available, he has been watched by Liverpool and I think would be an excellent foil for Torres. I also think that Sylvain Marveaux will be available as he wants too much from Rennes for a new contract ever to be agreed. He will be come a free agent in the summer and has interested Chelsea in the past. There will be interest from Germany but Liverpool may just be able to off a good deal and get the player in January.}

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22 Oct 2010 17:15:30
I believe that we must get 6 points out of the next 2 games or Hodgson will be sacked. .

Macca

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22 Oct 2010 17:12:04
Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."

Heskey.

Cisse

zenden or degan"

Hmmmm, someone keeps replying to this question from yesterday. Ryan? Is that you? Shouldn't you be practising?

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this just made me piss myself laughing, very good whoever it was, it can't of been ryan he was on twitter! ! maybe ken aguero could teach him a thing or two! !

matty b

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22 Oct 2010 17:10:20
Dzeko hasnt signed for juve its just the editors opinion that that's where he'll go. Mata is close ti signing a new contract and will stay there for a few more years, they've got their debt down from 500m to 300m so less of a need to sell. City have said they won't sell a player to any of their rivals and despite our current predicament we're still their rivals, hence the reason why they agreed to keep paying bellamys 80 grand a week wages while he's at cardiff rather then sell to spurs who were interested and why they wouldn't let given go to arsenal.

Dodge


man city would sell to english team if the offers decent enough, , and if not then bad business sense and they need to look to sell the club to someone who knows business lol cos they won't make money by given players worth 20mill for less than they r worth to a team outside the premier league jus so they rnt selling to the prem teams they cearly don't have faith in there team to be better than what they r selling to others lol

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22 Oct 2010 17:10:16
Now i'm not sayin that i'm correct before people start saying i'm wrong, but i was driving today about five minutes down the road from melwood and i'm pretty sure that none other than mr djibril cisse was driving next to me. now i know he still owns his house in frodsham but to be so near to melwood is strange you not think? ?
maybe he could be making a return to the club, i think 'd like that tbh he was a goal scorer who wasnt given a fair chance due to two horrific injuries
paulus lfc

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22 Oct 2010 17:07:38
Ed i have heard recently that real madrid may be looking to sign johnson in january or the summer. .if so do you think we could maybe get bezema as part of the deal. .also i think we should scout brazil for youngsters as we saw coutinho was amazing for inter against spurs. .offer babel in a straight swap for afellay. .also i watched the reserves against blackburn and think mavinga should definately be part of the first team.
realistic team apart from maybe benzema
. . . . . . Reina. . . .
kelly. . .agger. . skrtel. . . mavinga/ konchesky
turan/ pacheco. . .gerrard. . meireles. .afellay/ cole
. . . . . . . benzema. . . .torres. . .
everyone wants to get rid of ngog but i would keep him for another year or two cos i think he would be a good player as back up!
also would like to see more of suso, eccleston, wilson, shelvey
wat u think ed?

{Editor's Note: If Real Madrid want Johnson I would be very surprised. Babel for Arda may be an option.}

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22 Oct 2010 16:58:35
Ed whot say u on this? now is the time we have to play kelly at right back full time got lots about him going to be top class.then put glen in right mid field he is better going forward than playing at the back. stevey back full time center mid. cole up with torro got the players there ed. roy must stay with a game plan all the way.for me we will get money for new players but not big money that a lot of are fans think is coming are way HOPE IVE GOT THAT WRONG JUST A FEELING UP THE POOL. they need to be players that are class but not FOR gross money AN wages THAT are out of control fact.in jan players cost over the odds big FACT.MY HOPE IS if we get 3 class players IN an off load 2 or 3 that would be pukka ed WALK ON FOREVER RED JAY ESSEX RED 4 LIFE COME ON THE POOL GET IT GOING

{Editor's Note: I agree about Kelly and would suggest that if there is no money owing on Johnson now then he should be sold if possible.}

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22 Oct 2010 16:56:55
22 Oct 2010 15:22:18
Team for blackburn 4-4-2:
GK reina - obviously
RB Kelly - didn't have the greatest game against napoli but better than johnson
CB Skrtel and agger - time for carragher to play be on the bench
LB Aurelio - played well when he came on
RM Johnson - If he plays well great if not, he should be a squad player
CM Gerrard - Obviously
CM Meireles - looks like he is adapting to the english game
LM Cole - showed glimpses of skill when he came on
ST Torres - No matter how bad he is playing, one goal could bring him back into form
ST Jovanovic - Naturally a striker, scored 24 last season, looked very strong, pacey and creative at times against napoli

subs: carragher, krygiakos, shelvey, spearing, ngog, babel, pacheco

shelvey, pacheco and babel to come (babel on up front, if he plays poorly he really has no excuse)

Final score: Liverpool 2-0 Blackburn

Goals: Torres, Jovanovic

E.H LFC

"WHATS CARA PLAYING ON THE BENCH WITH, HIMSELF OR WOYS CLUELESS CHIN."

lol at first i was gonna put play less game time but then i wanted to change it to have sum time on the bench. my bad

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22 Oct 2010 16:55:29
Our defence is not good enough at the moment.We have a player loaned out in Ayala We have Wilson Mavinga Agger and Kelly who have not been given a chance this season. Roy as relied on experience and they have let him down.Give the lads a chance Roy.

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22 Oct 2010 16:49:02
My predictions:
New manager within the next 2 weeks = Frank Rijkaard.
Frank to be given £30 + sales in January.

OUT
Lucas £7-8m
Babel £7-8m
Poulson £3m
Konchesky or Aurelio £2-3m
Maxi £2-3m

£21-25m + £30m from NESV = £51-55m to spend.

IN
Llorente £17m
Taiwo (cheap cus contract ends in the summer) £3m
Afellay (same as Taiwo) £3m
Turan £16m
Inler/ Defour/ Gourcuff £12-18m

£51-57m

I think you would agree that would make us a decent team. Much better width with Turan and Afellay on the wings and Taiwo at left back. Also stronger in central midfield and another Torres upfront.

Agree? Disagree? Why?

They call me Cuban Pete

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22 Oct 2010 16:47:22
Ahh ok lol didn't know dzeko had agreed to go to juve lol as for mata valencia r in debt and r looking to sell make money, , , it could be possible, , adebayour ok even close to £20mill say 18mill maybe that's a decent price for what he has to offer hes not looking like hes part of mancinis plans apart from the bench and playing games they use players to rest the main players in. .i think hed be great with torres hed be my first choice


Dzeko hasnt signed for juve its just the editors opinion that that's where he'll go. Mata is close ti signing a new contract and will stay there for a few more years, they've got their debt down from 500m to 300m so less of a need to sell. City have said they won't sell a player to any of their rivals and despite our current predicament we're still their rivals, hence the reason why they agreed to keep paying bellamys 80 grand a week wages while he's at cardiff rather then sell to spurs who were interested and why they wouldn't let given go to arsenal.

Dodge

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22 Oct 2010 16:44:03
TOSHAK / EVANS DREAMTEAM
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22 Oct 2010 16:14:41
I have been saying this for 3 years - John Toshack is the man for the job, with Roy Evans as assistant, He has proved it with Swansea, Real Madrid and Wales. He gets the best out of the young players, recently he has brought out the best in Bale, Ramsey and Collinson and plays in the Liverpool way.There will be no player power with and will get respect from the players and supporters.
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Sorry mate, but you've been wrong for 3 years as well! Who wouldn't have brought Bale, Ramsey and Collinson through into that Welsh team?! Its their clubs that bring them through. Even Hodgson would have played them.

Wales have been shocking during his management. He lacked decent players sure, but he still failed to gel what he had and get any success. Look at N.Ireland!

Tosh was the man to take over when Souness left. Too long in the tooth now.

Red Gart

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22 Oct 2010 16:43:36
Going on what i've seen and heard in the last couple of weeks, it would suggest to me that Hodgson's last game may be chelsea at anfield. The new owners did say they would give him time and from what i can see we will probably draw against blackburn, draw or lose against bolton(our away form is awful). .and theres no way roy can put out a team that will beat chelsea even at home.

so, 2 points in 3 games leaving us in the bottom 3 possibly in 20th. . . . .NESV are not going to put up with that. . . we were in the bottom 3 before they came in and we will be after the chelsea game.

so, Roy to go 7th November. . .

ed, any thoughts on this?

{Editor's Note: To be fair it doesn't matter who the manager is, Chelsea is a very good side. Need to focus on Blackburn right now.}

i understand what you're saying ed, but it would still be points lost won't it?

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22 Oct 2010 16:41:17
Pavlachencko if that's spelt right. i think he would be a great partner for torres up front

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22 Oct 2010 16:40:05
Hola- Rafa here again. Could we at Inter possibly do a deal for El Zhar in exchange for Sneijder, or am I under valuing El Zhar a little?

And remember- In Istanbul we won it five times!

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22 Oct 2010 16:39:45
As we know there are some truly great managerial choices for roys replacement, and we all speculate and have our own favourites for the job!
so based on the fact that we will have to pay roy 3 million gbp to leave, will it limit NESV to managers who are at the moment without a club thus to remove the need to pay again to prize a top manager from their present club! what do you think!

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22 Oct 2010 16:39:38
I have been saying this for 3 years - John Toshack is the man for the job, with Roy Evans as assistant, He has proved it with Swansea, Real Madrid and Wales. He gets the best out of the young players, recently he has brought out the best in Bale, Ramsey and Collinson and plays in the Liverpool way.There will be no player power with and will get respect from the players and supporters.

Posted something along these lines a few days ago, one of the Ed's also commented on it. I believe he could do a good job for us with Evans and Thommo too with a younger coach, maybe Hyppia or Carra.
At least the quality of the football would be good to watch

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22 Oct 2010 16:37:57
Will ppl stop mentioning players from city it will not happen. they have said they will not allow players to go to premiership rivals . although liverpool sitting downtable at min we are a city rival,

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22 Oct 2010 16:37:09
NESV Man John Henry said publicly that they are here to be winners, and that they intend to show their intent with 'pounds'.

For me, the current issue is the manager and the squad.

Roy has to, and will go albeit it will cost the club £3m but for me its good business, in terms of replacements, there are too many too mention but I believe it will be one of Frank Rijkaard, Manuel Pellegrini, Kenny Dalglish, Henk Ten Cate, Guus Hiddink and Steve Nicol. .yes Stevie Nic is currently manager of New England Revolution and is the whole of USA's favourite to replace the current coach of USA, which brings me to my last possible. Bob Bradley!

The squad for me needs an overhaul and there are soooo many with potential, this needs to be fulfilled now, not in 5 years Rafa! ! !

Goalkeeping dept is good, Pepe is class and Brad Jones, Gulacsi are good understudies.

Full backs for me all need replacing, Johnson would command a decent fee. .so take it, Konchesky just not good enough ( Fulham must be p*ssing themselves in getting Salcido in for Konchesky! ! ), Aurelio is good back up. .when fit.

Centre Halves are all decent bar Soto, just not a good 4th choice Def in my opinion.

Midfielders. . Poulsen doesn't offer any creativity whatsoever, always look for a simple pass which is normally a few feet away. Lucas for me is improving and would be a good squad player, Meirelles seems versatile and would be a good rotational player.

Wingers. . all need to go. Maxi is a shadow of what he was 5 years ago and the only thing he has ever done is score a screamer in a World Cup, that's it, gives up too easily, which brings me to Babel, has a bad touch, runs with his head down to many times, tries silly nutmegs and everytime he loses the ball he jogs back rather than show any determination to retrieve the ball, seems uninterested. cash in now. Jova can be an impact player so i'd poss keep him.

Forwards, keep Torres, form is temporary, class is permanent. Also, Ngog has shown signs recently that with good guidance he can be a very good player in years to come.

So Squad analysis and players that need/ have to go

Konchesky
Johnson
Kyrgiakos
Poulsen
Maxi Rodriguez
Babel

And like for like reasonable/ competent replacements would be

Fabio Coentrao(Benfica) or Royston Drenthe(Madrid on loan at Hercules) for Konchesky, personally prefer Drenthe especially if Rijkaard takes over, could be a possibility.

Martin Kelly has shown glimpses of what he can do at RB, but personally i think Jay Spearings engine, work rate and passing range could be used effectively at Right Back.

At centre half there a sooo many but realistic targets could be Gary Cahill, Brede Hangeland or Chris Samba

Instead of Poulsen i work go for either Scott Parker or Javi Martinez, although the Napoli centre mid Gargano looked decent box to box combative midfielder.

For width i'd like to see Ibrahim Afellay and Eden Hazard replace Maxi & Bryan Rabble but add Arda Turan in to the mix too who is absolute quality and wants to play for LFC.

Upfront we need more options. . Darren Bent would be perfect partner for Torres, and even Miroslav Klose or Mario Gomez. .who are bit-part players at Bayern

So without a massive transfer bill the squad would look something like this in terms of options in each positions

GK. Reina, Jones, Gulacsi
RB. Kelly, Spearing, Darby
LB. Drenthe, Aurelio, Mavinga
CB. Carra, Agger, Skrtel, (Cahill, Hangeland or Samba)
CM: Meirelles, Lucas, Spearing can play there too, ( Parker, Martinez or Gargano)
AM. Gerrard, Joe Cole, Shelvey
Wingers. Kuyt, Afellay, Hazard, Turan, Amoo
Strikers. Torres, Ngog, Bent, Klose or Gomez, Pacheco

Albeit it could cost in excess of £50 million to acquire replacements for Konchesky, Johnson, Soto, Poulsen, Babel and Maxi but i think we could recoup possibly 50% of that by selling them.

Which in my opinion would leave us with the same group of numbers but a much more stronger outfit.

Your thoughts Ed? {ed's note - I pretty much agree with that, though I think we have enough good young centre backs in need of first team football so I would not buy any.}

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22 Oct 2010 16:34:11
Mexes and Gary Cahill to come in January and next summer respectivly.

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22 Oct 2010 16:29:43
Mata is about to renew his contract with Valencia. I think that if the club goes through a bad period - by which I mean one or two defeats - then they may announce the agreement which is basically all but done

guillem baague website don't know accurate he is

{Editor's Note: I agree that the liklihood of Mata moving to Liverpool is very low indeed.}

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22 Oct 2010 16:23:18
I think Pavel Pogrebnyak would be a good shout, a good strong player who i think would work well with Torres and if we could get a good crosser of the ball could be a dangerous player for us

what do you think ed?

{Editor's Note: Not enough goals for my liking - may work alongside Torres though.}

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22 Oct 2010 16:22:10
I hear ashly young not sighning for villa. we should be getting back in ther to try and get him again now we got new owners. he would be a bog answer to wing play. give gerrard extra 5 mill to convince him to send the lad to liverpool on top of askin price

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22 Oct 2010 16:14:41
I have been saying this for 3 years - John Toshack is the man for the job, with Roy Evans as assistant, He has proved it with Swansea, Real Madrid and Wales. He gets the best out of the young players, recently he has brought out the best in Bale, Ramsey and Collinson and plays in the Liverpool way.There will be no player power with and will get respect from the players and supporters.

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22 Oct 2010 16:13:57
22 Oct 2010 16:04:10
In the january transfer window i think we need to get a striker that's a must we all know this, , my choice for that would be emmanuel adabayour, great striker for arsenal coulda been for man city if he was not benched all time i think we could snap him up for 10-15 million, we all know how good he is. . if not him then edin dzeko, , , 2008-2009 season 32 league appearances 26 goals in the league. .2009-2010 season 34 league appearances 22 goals in the league 2010-2011 season 5 gaames so far 5 goals. . 24 years old young big player, , he looks good too from what ive seen of him. . and a winger ashley young if possible. .we all know how good he is, , , if not juan manuel mata great young winger scores goals but his assist rate is really good which is what we need for torres and new striker hopefully dzeko, , , also we need to get rid of lucas and bring in a central mid we should try again for gareth barry with city having yaya toure i think barry could be available. . what do you think ED!

{Editor's Note: Adebayor would cost closer to £20M and Dzeko will be going to Juve. I would doubt Mata would be interested in Liverpool - top of the Spanish League with Champions League, why would he?}

ahh ok lol didn't know dzeko had agreed to go to juve lol as for mata valencia r in debt and r looking to sell make money, , , it could be possible, , adebayour ok even close to £20mill say 18mill maybe that's a decent price for what he has to offer hes not looking like hes part of mancinis plans apart from the bench and playing games they use players to rest the main players in. .i think hed be great with torres hed be my first choice

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22 Oct 2010 16:09:11
Going on what i've seen and heard in the last couple of weeks, it would suggest to me that Hodgson's last game may be chelsea at anfield. The new owners did say they would give him time and from what i can see we will probably draw against blackburn, draw or lose against bolton(our away form is awful). .and theres no way roy can put out a team that will beat chelsea even at home.

so, 2 points in 3 games leaving us in the bottom 3 possibly in 20th. . . . .NESV are not going to put up with that. . . we were in the bottom 3 before they came in and we will be after the chelsea game.

so, Roy to go 7th November. . .

ed, any thoughts on this?

{Editor's Note: To be fair it doesn't matter who the manager is, Chelsea is a very good side. Need to focus on Blackburn right now.}

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22 Oct 2010 16:09:06
RIJKAARD not Rijkard not Rycard

Whichever way he is an arrogant A* * * * and shouldn't ever become manager of LIVERPOOL! !
Mal 12

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22 Oct 2010 16:04:10
In the january transfer window i think we need to get a striker that's a must we all know this, , my choice for that would be emmanuel adabayour, great striker for arsenal coulda been for man city if he was not benched all time i think we could snap him up for 10-15 million, we all know how good he is. . if not him then edin dzeko, , , 2008-2009 season 32 league appearances 26 goals in the league. .2009-2010 season 34 league appearances 22 goals in the league 2010-2011 season 5 gaames so far 5 goals. . 24 years old young big player, , he looks good too from what ive seen of him. . and a winger ashley young if possible. .we all know how good he is, , , if not juan manuel mata great young winger scores goals but his assist rate is really good which is what we need for torres and new striker hopefully dzeko, , , also we need to get rid of lucas and bring in a central mid we should try again for gareth barry with city having yaya toure i think barry could be available. . what do you think ED!

{Editor's Note: Adebayor would cost closer to £20M and Dzeko will be going to Juve. I would doubt Mata would be interested in Liverpool - top of the Spanish League with Champions League, why would he?}

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22 Oct 2010 15:57:31
Lisandro Lopez
Darren Bent

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22 Oct 2010 15:54:32
Holland midfielder Ibrahim Afellay will not sign a new contract with PSV Eindhoven when his current deal expires at the end of the season.

PSV are now likely to cash in on the 24-year-old, who has spent his whole career to date at the Eredivisie giants, in the January transfer window.

A statement on the Dutch club's website read: "PSV and Ibrahim Afellay have jointly concluded that, for several reasons, it is unrealistic to have his contract extended."

of course he is looking for money but wouldn't cost much in january or a pre contract worth a shot

ed what you think?

{Editor's Note: A good player - that is about it.}

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22 Oct 2010 15:51:24
22 Oct 2010 15:29:59
Ed what do you think of my suggestion to play Aurelio in midfield as a passing metronome?

He has done it well in the past.

Trust me I'm a doctor.

{Editor's Note: Not for me.}
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i agree ed. also in midfield u have to tackle and with his injury record its NOT a good idea!

harry5:(

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22 Oct 2010 15:51:13
Ed, do you think theres a chance of us getting somebody like Alexis Sanchez?The lads pure quality and to be perfectly honest, I think he's a better dribbler than C Ronaldo.Now I know it doesn't make him a better player but every time I see him play, I get the feeling he'll be perfect for us.Can u by any chance let ur contacts know abt him mate?

NikL

{Editor's Note: A slim chance if any.}

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22 Oct 2010 15:44:55
I think we need j riise bk.

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22 Oct 2010 15:36:34
To the guy that said give roy time how long you want to give him till we are in the championship

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22 Oct 2010 15:35:14
If Roy can't put a team out to beat Blackburn on Sunday he must step down before it's to late

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22 Oct 2010 15:34:00
To the guy who said we shud buy Fbio Coentro that's a great shout mate hes quality of the highest order, would love to see him at anfield

how bout you ed ?

{Editor's Note: I agree.}

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22 Oct 2010 15:31:41
Whoever is the new manager, i just want the likes of Martin Kelly, Dani Pacheco, Jonjo Shelvey, Chris Mavinga and Daniel Ayala to get more first team starts. You know, about 70 minutes on the pitch.

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22 Oct 2010 15:29:59
Ed what do you think of my suggestion to play Aurelio in midfield as a passing metronome?

He has done it well in the past.

Trust me I'm a doctor.

{Editor's Note: Not for me.}

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22 Oct 2010 15:27:23
Supposedly sergio aguero has told a german newspaper he would like to join liverpool, this comes after bayern munich make their interest known in the player

Tipster

{Editor's Note: Aguero is negotiating a new contract at Atletico Madrid - worth perhaps 200k euro per week. Liverpool is not an option.}

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22 Oct 2010 15:27:16
No I wouldn't want them managing the team, but Hyypia, Smicer and Hamann would certainly be good to have onboard in the dressing room. Although I believe that Hamann already has some coaching badges.

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22 Oct 2010 15:22:13
I reply to editor - 22 Oct 2010 15:05:58
In my opinion if roy hodgson is sacked by liverpool Manuel Pellegrini should be be offered the job , he sets his team up to attack and plays stylish , great to watch football , last season real madrid scored 96 league goals with him in charge , but a huge overhaul of the squad is needed -
OUTS
BABEL NGOG AGGER AURELIO POULSON LUCAS MAXI KYRGIAKOS and atleast 3 others.
INS
EDIN DZEKO/ LLORENTE, PHIL JONES (carra long term replacement), TAIWO, TURAN/ PODOLSKI , ASHLEY YOUNG.
i don't think its too far fetched to get some or all of these targets, we could get a few quid from NESV and the rest through sales .I think NESV will back us strongly in the first 2 transfer windows and then we will become self sustainable and maybe make 2or1 additions to the squad each thereafter . editors i would like to hear your thoughts on this.
NGS77

Editor's Note: Dzeko will almost certainly be moving to Juve, Taiwo will almost certainly be signing a new contract at Marseille, I cannot see Bilboa selling Llorente or the player wishing to move to England. The others are, I guess, possibles.}* * * what forwards are possible targets for liverpool and do you think i'm little ambitious in naming players the calibre of dzeko and llorente coming to anfield or should we be setting our targets a little lower.

{Editor's Note: I think Guillaume Hoarau is a good viable target. It is not a case of players like Dzeko being a class above, it is simply that Dzeko, in my opinion, will go to Juventus.}

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22 Oct 2010 15:20:06
I have it on good authority from a reporter friend in the USA, that the current USA team coach, Bob Bradley, has been approached to manage our great club

My initial response was 'help', but if you look at his record, with a limited pool of quality players, it's actually very impressive.

He is known for a fairly defensive style, but he wins games !

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22 Oct 2010 15:17:40
To the guy who posted the below comment. . .
_ _ _ _ _
22 Oct 2010 14:57:26
Editor, I () ask if you can suggest that Sami Hyypia comes back as a coach. I would also like to see Smicer and Hamann back coaching too. I honestly think with these guys in the dressing room, new owners and a new manager we could become a big force again. They wore the red shirt with pride. It's a long shot editor, but you don't get if you don't ask.
_ _ _ _ _

So you would like to see 3 come in with zero coaching experience between them?! Based on what? One night in 2005 alone?! Come on!

Smicer?!?! OK, he did good in Istabbul and finished his Anfield career on a real high. Never to be forgotten. But he was hardly an Anfield great before that was he?! Can you honestly remember anything else he did before Istanbul in his 6 years with us?! Sami Hyypia is a good shout, but not Smicer and Hamann.

We need a coach with a big name to be respected, who has proven himself in the top leagues and in Europe. Step forward Frank Rijkaard with John Aldridge as his number 2.

Get in there the 80s Mostachios!

Red Gart

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22 Oct 2010 15:15:01
All these wish lists are all well an good but id rather nuture the talent already at our disposal, shelvey, pacheco, suso, kelly, amoo, mavinga etc wether we get a new manager or not these players are all bright young stars an need to be brought through, . if we miss out on the CL an players get upset an leave its not the end of the world atleast we've got a group of talented, young lads to take us to greater hights in the future.
the new owners should invest heavily not in the transfer market but in the academy so that we're regularly producing top quality players

ed what are your thoughts on this pal ?

{Editor's Note: it is a matter of balance. Bringing through the youngsters but perhaps trading a couple or three expereinced palyers each year will keep it fresh.}

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22 Oct 2010 15:11:00
Give Roy a chance, the seeds of this bad start where planted with rafa.Im sick and tired of fair weather fans wanting instant gratification if you want that support man city.Roy will come good things will get better starting with blackburn on sunday.As Broughton said, keep the faith.True Reds now im right.YWNA

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22 Oct 2010 15:08:09
"22 Oct 2010 14:34:34
I send an email yesterday saying that Hodgson will be around a little longer (new owners have other issues to attend to e.g. board, CEO search & they have given their backing) - looks more and more likely the case now"

If it's true that Joe Januszewski is likely to be the new man in charge then i doubt we'll have to wait much longer for Hodgson's dismissal. Henry changed the general manager and then the manager in quick succession when he took over the Red Sox and the timeline looks similar with Liverpool. If Rijkaard is waiting to sign i'm just surprised they didn't make the switch whilst all the papers are frothing at the mouth about the Rooney debacle.

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22 Oct 2010 15:05:58
In my opinion if roy hodgson is sacked by liverpool Manuel Pellegrini should be be offered the job , he sets his team up to attack and plays stylish , great to watch football , last season real madrid scored 96 league goals with him in charge , but a huge overhaul of the squad is needed -
OUTS
BABEL NGOG AGGER AURELIO POULSON LUCAS MAXI KYRGIAKOS and atleast 3 others.
INS
EDIN DZEKO/ LLORENTE, PHIL JONES (carra long term replacement), TAIWO, TURAN/ PODOLSKI , ASHLEY YOUNG.
i don't think its too far fetched to get some or all of these targets, we could get a few quid from NESV and the rest through sales .I think NESV will back us strongly in the first 2 transfer windows and then we will become self sustainable and maybe make 2or1 additions to the squad each thereafter . editors i would like to hear your thoughts on this.
NGS77

Editor's Note: Dzeko will almost certainly be moving to Juve, Taiwo will almost certainly be signing a new contract at Matseille, I cannot see Bilboa selling Llorente or the player wishing to move to England. The others are, I guess, possibles.}

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22 Oct 2010 15:03:18
What do you think Ed? {ed's note - you lost me when you called Babel quality, he is not fit to wear the shirt, far too lazy and so poor on the ball it is embarrassing.}

I didn't call him quality, I said I still think he will come good with the right manager.

He had a excellent first season, scoring 11 goals and we all saw plenty of potental. He just needs confidence! !

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22 Oct 2010 15:01:37
If it was up t me i would offer 20 million 4 the class act that is jack wilshare. what u think ed

{Editor's Note: An excellent player - not worth anything like £20M.}

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22 Oct 2010 14:59:23
Ed yesterday you said we would be getting a new manager. . earlier you said you thought roy wouldn't see the month out. but your last post says you don't expect one b4 the end of the month. . whats happened to change your mind so soon.

{Editor's Note: There are several Editors - each will have their own opinion.}

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22 Oct 2010 14:57:26
Editor, I asked you yesterday to speak to your sources about engineering a move for Eden Hazard and Mathieu Debuchy. In addition to this, I also ask if you can suggest that Sami Hyypia comes back as a coach. I would also like to see Smicer and Hamann back coaching too. I honestly think with these guys in the dressing room, new owners and a new manager we could become a big force again. They wore the red shirt with pride. It's a long shot editor, but you don't get if you don't ask.

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22 Oct 2010 14:54:03
Ed, do u feel man city would sell to us? they have players that could do a gteat job 4 us that just sit on thre bench

{Editor's Note: The question is would the players want to accept the certain reduction in wages?}

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22 Oct 2010 14:43:49
Ed, do you think Liverpool are going to get a new manager by the end of this month. . Will we get rid of Roy. He says Liverpool is not dead. . I hope before he does make us dead, we get rid of him. .

{Editor's Note: I doubt that anything will have changed by the end of the month.}

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22 Oct 2010 14:43:39
Roy Hodgson.But what about Millner, Young, Downing, Dunne, albrighton has the signs of becoming a very good winger(on a separate note we could buy him) and he has them playing good attacking football looks like you have something against o neil ed

True Red {ed's note - O'Neill walked out on Villa, that is why they are playing good attacking football and that Albrighton has been given a run in the team. MON doesn't trust the kids any more than Rafa or Roy.}

He walked out on principal. he was not ready to sell millner and stated if such a thing would happen he would quit and thus he did and come on ed you've seen villa playing good attacking football in his days and MON was the one who handed albrighton his debut first game of the season this year

And agreed hesky was a poor buy (a holding striker) first of his kind

True red {ed's note - er no, it was not principle that saw O'Neill leave, that was a nice excuse he could use to explain him jumping before he got the push. I have never ever seen a Martin O'Neill team play good football, even his Celtic team relied on lots of lumping it to a big man.}

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22 Oct 2010 14:42:53
Ed, what are the chances of gettin big peter back?? {ed's note - I can't see that happening, though you never know, with the right manager in charge he might well return.}

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22 Oct 2010 14:42:37
SkySports Website Yesterday:
((just to stop the saudi ah hilal rumours))

Rijkaard's sudden availability will alert a number of clubs across Europe, but the Dutchman's advisers have told skysports.com the former AC Milan star will snub other offers to come to England.

The news of Rijkaard's desire to manage in the Premier League has already fuelled speculation that he could be a contender for the Liverpool job, should Roy Hodgson lose his role at Anfield.

[ i believe its only a matter of time now.

harry5:) YNWA

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22 Oct 2010 14:35:10
As i have stated before, ROY WILL NOT WALK! !, he knows that the job he is doing is not good enough, and he would be a fool if he thought otherwise! and he is not hanging in there through belief of his own skills as a manager, loyalty for us fans or the team! HE IS JUST WAITING FOR HIS 3 MILLION POUND PAYOFF! why would he care about relegation!

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22 Oct 2010 14:34:55
My objecton to Oneill would be his playing style.I don't know the man personally, the same as when R H was touted for the position, I thought about other teams i had seen him managed and thought he was a safety first manager.Having seen the G H & R B teams, at times bore the pants off me, I wanted to see us play with more freedom, especially at home.I would like rijkaard or Pelligrini.I would settle for Roy Evans, King Kenny, or Jan Molby for the time being, but that won't happen.

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22 Oct 2010 14:34:34
I send an email yesterday saying that Hodgson will be around a little longer (new owners have other issues to attend to e.g. board, CEO search & they have given their backing) - looks more and more likely the case now

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22 Oct 2010 14:32:09
Ed, what would u spend on k. doyle and do u feel he would b a great partner for torres {ed's note - nothing and no. He is just a workhorse, not really good enough, in my opinion, for us.}

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22 Oct 2010 14:29:48
Ed forget that he used t b scum but do u think folan is worth trying to get {ed's note - no, he is too old and has already shown he struggles to adapt to the Prem.}

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22 Oct 2010 14:26:49
Glad to hear that our new manager may be Mr Rycard. Personally, I think that other chap, Mr Rijkard, might be better though. . . learn to spell guys and gals!

Who cares if people on this site spell names properly or not, it is a football site, and by the way you might heed your own advice it is RIJKAARD.

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22 Oct 2010 14:26:12
Omg WE MIGHT BE GETTING KIERAN WOODLEY HE IS SIKK HE IS AT PALACE ACADEMY 15 YEARS OF AGE LOOK HIM UP FROM CHARLIE

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22 Oct 2010 14:24:37
Liverpool have just started holding talks with crystal palace youngster kieron woodley the 15 year old is meant to be the next best thing! ! !

Hazza boy

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22 Oct 2010 14:24:34
Where's all you Rooney to liverpool merchants today then !?
KB

Where were you last night? Probably outside his house shouting at him!

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22 Oct 2010 14:19:32
Where's all you Rooney to liverpool merchants today then !?
KB

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22 Oct 2010 14:10:33
Editer are the rijkaard to a suadi club tue; where is their evidence, source ect.? ?? / /
or are they just making it up?? /

harry5:o

{Editor's Note: I am sure they are just teasing you.}

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22 Oct 2010 14:05:53
Glad to hear that our new manager may be Mr Rycard. Personally, I think that other chap, Mr Rijkard, might be better though. . . learn to spell guys and gals!

Totally agree with this poster. Learn to spell. It's Rijkaard.

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22 Oct 2010 14:00:59
To help anyone, from what i could tell gala were approached twice about rijickaard and we were knocked back twice and told hands off according to reports on
the web, and this was before roys tenure.
47yrsared

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22 Oct 2010 13:59:41
FrankRijkard has joined the Saudi team Al-Hilal

Then why no mention on the Al Hilal web site? Also it would seem a strange time to change manager with a cup semi final approaching.

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22 Oct 2010 13:57:23
Quick quetion for the ed, why are so many people against the idea of martin o neill taking iver from roy? {ed's note - because he is a terrible manager.}

i don't understand how u think he is that bad, he plays good football, brought good players to villa. please do explain {ed's note - he plays awful football, and those 'good' players were the likes of Heskey, Reo-Choker, James Collins etc. They are barely adequate let alone good.}

To be fair Martin O'Neill would eat and s* t Roy Hodgson.But what about Millner, Young, Downing, Dunne, albrighton has the signs of becoming a very good winger(on a separate note we could buy him) and he has them playing good attacking football looks like you have something against o neil ed

True Red {ed's note - O'Neill walked out on Villa, that is why they are playing good attacking football and that Albrighton has been given a run in the team. MON doesn't trust the kids any more than Rafa or Roy.}

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22 Oct 2010 13:52:00
Rijkkard joining saudi club. Saudi tv

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22 Oct 2010 13:48:40
Ed, could you just remind me on whose recommendation Roy Hodson was appointed in June.
Also, I thought that Pelligrini was considered at that time. If so how can he be more acceptable now? Was Rijjard mentioned at that time and was it reported that he would not come?
Comments please.

{Editor's Note: Dalglish recommended Hodgson - but regardless of whether or not Pellegrini was interviewed or considered before, time has moved on.}
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22 Oct 2010 13:39:17
Manuel Luis Pellegrini Ripamonti will be the next Liverpool manager. . .He will be announce after the next game.Goodbye Mr Hodgson.you've done enough with our club. .Good Luck in the future

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22 Oct 2010 13:31:23
Ed,
When will we know Roh has left? f* * * doing my head in
get him out and get some who likes to play attacking football

Fedupred {ed's note - I don't know when mate, I don't have that kind of info!}

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22 Oct 2010 13:31:18
Quick quetion for the ed, why are so many people against the idea of martin o neill taking iver from roy? {ed's note - because he is a terrible manager.}

i don't understand how u think he is that bad, he plays good football, brought good players to villa. please do explain {ed's note - he plays awful football, and those 'good' players were the likes of Heskey, Reo-Choker, James Collins etc. They are barely adequate let alone good.}

To be fair Martin O'Neill would eat and s* t Roy Hodgson.

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22 Oct 2010 13:29:49
Ashley young has refuse to sign an extension presently, he said he wants to wait until the summer, is that an indication that he wants out?? i think we should go all out for him in january 2011.
what you think ed? he have pace , good player . all we need is a good lw maybe mata or adam johnson in the summer or january 2011. darren bent or sergio aguero in january 2011 {ed's note - I am not a fan of Young myself, plenty of ability but he goes missing when things get a bit rough.}

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22 Oct 2010 13:27:04
"Like the team, with the exception of Joe Cole"

Yet you would agree on Babel!
Someone here is really taking the mickey.Obviously a joke.Trying to wind people up.Good effort

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22 Oct 2010 13:22:07
Does anybody know if there was a fallout with carragher and hodgson at halftime lastnite leading to carragher being substituted. . ed?

Tipster {ed's note - I don't know what happened yet, I am trying to find out but no one will talk to me about it yet.}

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22 Oct 2010 13:22:02
Roy Hodgson today will anounce that he is stepping down

Making way for Frank Rycard to take over

Steven Gerrard has had a massive fallout with Hodgson along with other players in the squad

All bets are off for Rycard taking over

Source please cos all other media oulets say that hodgeson won't quit!

This source has come from within LFC last night

Hodgson is not quitting he is being asked to step down by the board

This is the reason he only played fringe players last night the players have lost faith in him

Rycard was liverpools first choice before hodgson came but refused

This is a sad story but 100% true

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22 Oct 2010 13:17:34
Hola- Rafa Benitez here. Although I am Inter manager, I love Liverpool still. How about I buy Lucas, and you can have Sulley Muntari and McDonald's Mariga on loan?

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22 Oct 2010 13:05:05
FrankRijkard has joined the Saudi team Al-Hilal

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22 Oct 2010 13:02:30
Frank Rijkaard will be announced as the new Liverpool manager by this time next week.

Despite denials from both parties, the new owners have been in contact and like what they see and hear.

I know he struggles in his last job, but I think he will be great for Liverpool - He made Barca what they are today by taking a 'risk' on some very talented younsters and, more importantly, when things did not work out for them initially, keeping faith - - Some are now regarded as the worlds best !

He has a reputation for struggling with the disapline side of the job, so expect Phil Thompson or even Graham Souness to be appointed as his 'tough talking' assistant.

Expect the likes of Babel, Ngog, kelly etc to shine !

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22 Oct 2010 12:53:30
My team with the current squad:

Reina

Kelly Agger Skrtel Aurelio

Gerrard

Johnson Cole

Meirales

Torress Babel

What do you think? like. believable.

East London Red


In response - Like the team, with the exception of Joe Cole - Believe he is possibly the most overhyped player in the premiership - Looks pretty from time to time with some nice touches, but we need players who 'show' for the full 90 minutes - not 2 nice touches as game! Swap him for Spearing and maybe !

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22 Oct 2010 12:52:00
Sky sports sources understand that Roy Hodgson has been signed up for the got milk campaign after advice from Rafa Benitez

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22 Oct 2010 12:51:08
Sources from melwood say that Roy Hodgson has just cancelled his booking for a flight back to England from Italy as he is meeting with Napoli President over the possible transfer of Lavezzi.

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22 Oct 2010 12:50:52
I have heard people saying that Carragher has been moaning about RH and wants him out. This contradicts what he said yesterday saying we should be trying to please the manager. So ed what is really going on and also why take him off at half time I still don't get it? {ed's note - I don't know why he was taken off at half time yet, but I doubt very much it was a planned substitution. Yes it does contradict what he says in public, but then he is trying to remain professional.}

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22 Oct 2010 12:50:28
Roy has been fortunate this week that the Rooney story has drawn attention away from him. With Rooney now signing a new contract, I fear the media will now turn the spotlight on Hodgson. The pressure on him to get a result now will be even greater.

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22 Oct 2010 12:48:32
Bbc news understands that Roy Hodgson has flown to Italy for a showdown with Rafa benitez, who ever wins gets a free pint of milk.

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22 Oct 2010 12:45:31
Rooney staying at utd . How can their fans and players accept him back now after what hes said and done.
Talking to man city, barca, real ect.

But i bet the fans who said they hate him and never wanna see him again or even 'dont care that hes leaving' are now saying that they always thought hed stay.

The only reason hes stayed is cause barca and real and chelsea did not offer him high wages!

Harry5:)

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22 Oct 2010 12:41:05
I don't understand how u think he is that bad, he plays good football, brought good players to villa. please do explain {ed's note - he plays awful football, and those 'good' players were the likes of Heskey, Reo-Choker, James Collins etc. They are barely adequate let alone good.}

dunne, 5 million, young 8 million and milner 8 million and warnock, did u forget about them {ed's note - Young was more than 8 million and he is a coward who goes missing when a game gets rough. But even so, the fact that you can only name four for a man that has managed a club for a number of years is worrying is it not? Also the fact that his teams play a style of football Fat Sam would approve of should be enough to show you why no one should ever want him anywhere near Liverpool. Ally that to his constant whines about needing more money to spend and then walking out when he doesn't get it. Plus his tendency to play players out of position and, no matter how bad the team is playing, his refusal to make changes to the team unless injury forces him to.}

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22 Oct 2010 12:40:57
Rooney staying at manure.New five year deal
KOPFIEND 1978

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22 Oct 2010 12:35:31
Joining the Babel debate - I have a horrible feeling if we were to let him go, it would come back to bit us in the backside - The guy needs to be given a run upfront, in the position he prefers, where he has the ability to use his pace and power to get behind defenders and, any 'mis-control' and subsequent loss of pocession is not so costly.

The guy obviously needs confidence, and what better than playing him with Torres? - the two have the potential to be a great partnership.

But we will never know until we try!

Also, been really impressed with Spearing on each and every occasion I have seen him - No thrills, but 110% commitment - Just what we need!

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22 Oct 2010 12:34:45
Quick quetion for the ed, why are so many people against the idea of martin o neill taking iver from roy? {ed's note - because he is a terrible manager.}

i don't understand how u think he is that bad, he plays good football, brought good players to villa. please do explain {ed's note - he plays awful football, and those 'good' players were the likes of Heskey, Reo-Choker, James Collins etc. They are barely adequate let alone good.}

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22 Oct 2010 12:33:24
We have some outstanding youngsters but I afraid we will loose some, if not them all, due to the failure to give them an opportunity.
Shelvey looks class and Gerrard like, he must get more time in the first team.
Pacheco, whats the problem? Why does he not get a chance
Ayala, the best of the many excellent young CB we have, he is at Hull for the season long loan and I fear will we loose him at the end of the season.
Kelly, needs more first team time, he is going to be better than Johnson and on Johnsons current form is better now
Mavinga, again whats the problem? We have LB problems and he is not give a sniff? Confused
Suso, too young at moment but again class
Spearing, better than Lucas and Poulson but only squad material as yet
Wilson, not seen enough of to be convinced as yet
Andrea Wisdom, great future CB, reminds me of Sol Cambell, very strong and still only 18
Amoo, potential
Ngoo (not Ngog) looks very good prospect but maybe a bit early for first team
They all look very good players but I fear for their future as they do not seem to be given the opportunities whilst 'has been' and overpaid players are just not performing for the reds.

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22 Oct 2010 12:33:04
22 Oct 2010 12:15:21
"an amazing one in Riera"

You must be joking! !

No I am not joking. He was a real talent, natuarally a wide man who had a sweet left foot, whenever he played he gave 200%. The goals he scored against Villa abd PSV where world class. He got into the spanish set up while playong for us. He was top notch. Benayoun was great aswell.

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22 Oct 2010 12:31:04
Ed, have you heard anything off the two first team players you're in contact with about a new manager today mate?

Cheers, azz {ed's note - nothing since Monday, but, judging by the Carragher sub at half time, things are not getting any better!}

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22 Oct 2010 12:30:56
The transfer of Bent to Liverpool was agreed in the summer and will be completed in January if, and only if, Hodgson is still in charge.

A fee of £20m has already been agreed but it is on the condition that there is no change in manager (just in case the new boss does not fancy him as a player)

For the price, I hope any new manager will still take him - He is exactly what we need and one of only a small handful of strikers who have proved they can score regularly in the EPL, season after season.

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22 Oct 2010 12:29:52
ED,
are your sources still confident of roy leaving?
Is there still a chance he will leave today?

Harry5:) {ed's note - in their words, either he is gone or half the team will be, and that does include Reina, Torres, Carragher and Gerrard. So I would say that he is going as soon as the replacement is ready for definite. I think it is more likely he will go after the Blackburn game though.}

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22 Oct 2010 12:26:40
QUOTE "Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."

Christ where do i start? Deggen, Diao, Diouf, Diomede. . . . . .

I think you get the picture. And for the record Babel hasn't got a first touch let alone a second touch.

In fact his first touch should be re-named a wayward pass.

Bob the Red

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22 Oct 2010 12:24:22
My team with the current squad:

Reina

Kelly Agger Skrtel Aurelio

Gerrard

Johnson Cole

Meirales

Torress Babel

What do you think? like. believable.

East London Red

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22 Oct 2010 12:24:09
Quick quetion for the ed, why are so many people against the idea of martin o neill taking iver from roy?? {ed's note - because he is a terrible manager.}

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22 Oct 2010 12:24:05
In reply to

Roy Hodgson today will anounce that he is stepping down

Making way for Frank Rycard to take over

Steven Gerrard has had a massive fallout with Hodgson along with other players in the squad

All bets are off for Rycard taking over

Source please cos all other media oulets say that hodgeson won't quit!

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22 Oct 2010 12:19:43
Ed, if Hodgson is replaced within the next few weeks as many are predciting on the site, what reasons do you think the new owners will give for not allowing Hodgson to take control of the team for at least half of the season? I know it's been a very bad start but do you not think that 9 or 10 Premier League games is too short a time to be judging his managerial ability at this level ? {ed's note - when the team is propping up the table I don't think there is any need of any excuses.}

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22 Oct 2010 12:16:14
Hi, sunday must be roy's last game in charge. i really cannot see him going today unless kenny takes temp charge.(he did scout the blackburn game monday). but realistically roy was given 2 games napoli/ blackburn to turn things around.

i am interested in what lee said last night, did he say monday for the new manager. lets face it he was spot on with the new owners, even when people laughed and told him to stop making things up.

the new owners seem to be making all the right noises. so am sure whoever they appoint as manager will be the correct person to build this club back up to win things for years. 70/ 80 was us 90/ 00 was them lot up the road. lets hope the 10's can be our time again.

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22 Oct 2010 12:15:21
"an amazing one in Riera"

You must be joking! !

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22 Oct 2010 12:11:23
Ed, do you think Roy would be sacked soon i.e. Coming week. .
I think we have seen a lot from him and have suffered alot. . more he stays, more is trouble. . thanks {ed's note - yes mate, I certainly don't think he will see out the month.}

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22 Oct 2010 12:10:07
I have a feeling that the game on sunday will be a bit like mark hughes last game for city last year when we will announce our new manager later that night. What you think ed {ed's note - I certainly wouldn't be surprised, it would be a good sensible time to make the change.}

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22 Oct 2010 12:00:39
Hey Ed. .This is in the mirror. .
But Liverpool's owners have no intention of cashing in on their prize asset, and with the player still retaining four and a half years on his current contract, they will show the resolve required to keep him.

The two owners had lunch with Torres last week, and spelt out their plans to remove some of the deadwood at Anfield to allow new investment in some big name players to strengthen the side and allow the striker to fulfil his ambitions at the club. . .

. . unlike a lot of nutters, i want Torres to stay too, and think getting rid of him is a massive step backwards! . .


SI


YNWA {ed's note - I would prefer to keep him, if we can surround him with better players, but if not then selling him to buy 2 very good players might be a good thing.}

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22 Oct 2010 12:00:26
I personally see no benefit in changing manager before the game on Sunday, the new guy would have 1 training session to get his ideas across and to change the way the team play's. I see the change happening on Monday and not before.

StevieW

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22 Oct 2010 11:51:10
Hey ed, do you think there's a chance we'll be at Blackburn match with a new manager? {ed's note - there is a chance, but it is getting less likely due to time constraints.}

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22 Oct 2010 11:49:43
It was on bbc website that ashley young has refused to sign a new contract? i think we should swap young for babel + cash? also the possibility of pushing glen johnson onto right wing with kelly at right back? spearing cm instead of lucas?

thanks
RedKaley

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22 Oct 2010 11:47:46
Ryan Babel is moaning again about first team chances. He is quoted as saying "It's always the same story for me, 'this is your chance, this is your chance'. I don't see it that way any more. For me, it is just another game."

Sounds like he has given up trying to make an impression and fully believes that he has shown what he can do and doesn't need to prove himself any more.

How much money do you think we could get for this anger inducing waste of space Ed? This guy really really annoys me with his constant moaning about first team football despite possessing the touch of a ****!

{Editor's Note: Two years ago his value would have been much higher than the £5-6M he is worth now. But remember someone has to want to pay that for him. Possibly part of a deal for Arda.}

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22 Oct 2010 11:46:32
Babels second touch is always a header :)

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22 Oct 2010 11:44:45
I didn't say it upset me i said it sickened me and i also said it is about opinions so i respect yours'. But to me he is no longer good enough to be given a new 2 year contract.I

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22 Oct 2010 11:39:38
Just read your link re gilletts racing team nice to see life isn't getting better for our illustrious ex owners and even nicer to se it is at the hands of our new owner!

you know if there is any truth in the rumours that gerrard and torres have refused to play or hodgson again ed? {ed's note - I don't believe they have actually refused to play, there have been a number of fallings out though. They want him gone now, or even better yesterday, but I don't believe it has gone as far as any player refusing to play.}

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22 Oct 2010 11:31:28
"22 Oct 2010 09:21:17

Will people start spelling Skrtel's name correctly! I've seen Skyrtle ad Skrtl now whats going on?! I think against blackburn we will be a different outfit because of Styven Geyrard and Fanindi Totres."

Well with Rycard as our new manager, Konchecky at LB and even if Hodgeson is still at the helm he may give John Joe Shelvey a chance - we can't go wrong.

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22 Oct 2010 11:28:46
To the person slagging off Carra, and I quote. .

I took my child to his testimonial only to see him score for his beloved boyhood team Everton.that sickened me and my son who is 7.

You summed it up when you said "TESTIMONIAL", that's all it was a testimonial, he did it for a laugh, no other reason. I remember when all testimonials were for fun (Sir Roger, Gerry Byrne etc). I can understand a 7 year old being upset but not a grown man!
We all know Carra is not playing well but neither is anyone else, he is a great servant to this club and should be treated with more respect.

Kopitetillidie

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22 Oct 2010 11:27:37
Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."


Michael Owen

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22 Oct 2010 11:26:55
Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."

Heskey.

Cisse

zenden or degan

POULSON - his first touch last night was almost a pass to me 2000 miles away! - He makes Lucas look like Essien!
ReegsLFC {ed's note - reminds me of the famous quote referring to Carlton Palmer - he can control the ball further than I can kick it.}

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22 Oct 2010 11:26:08
"22 Oct 2010 11:15:09
Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."

Heskey.

Cisse

zenden or degan"

Hmmmm, someone keeps replying to this question from yesterday. Ryan? Is that you? Shouldn't you be practising?

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22 Oct 2010 11:25:52
- - - - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - - -
kelly- -Carra- - Skrtel- - Aurelio

- - - - - - - - - - agger - - - - - - - - -

- jhonson - -Gerard- - Raul- - Pacheco-/ jonv


- - - - - - - -Torres-/ Ngog- - - - - -

ngog if torres injured (HALF THE SEASON THEN)

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22 Oct 2010 11:25:13
I think this should happen
outs:
Poulson- 3mil
babel- 6-9mil
aurelio- 3mil
torres- 45mil
ins:
Affelay- 5mil
Gary Cahill 8mil
bent- 15mil
rooney- 45 mil

Thanks Harry French]
woodhead tim cahill no way {ed's note - I would rather have Tim Cahill than Shrek, at least Cahill never sold his story to the S*n deliberately to upset people.}

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22 Oct 2010 11:24:04
22 Oct 2010 11:11:43
- - - - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - - -
kelly- -Carra- - Skrtel- - Aurelio

- - - - - - - - - - agger - - - - - - - - -

- jhonson - -Gerard- - Raul- - Pacheco-/ jonv


- - - - - - - -Torres- Ngog- - - - - -

Looks good agger would to great in dm role

PLAYING WITH 12 MIGHT BE OUR ONLY HOPE UNDER WOY!
ReegsLFC

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22 Oct 2010 11:24:01
Wingers, we had an amazing one in Riera, what a joke selling him was. Riise shouldnt have been sold better than all LBs we have at the moment. Babel on his day is unplayable, its a shame he only has one of his days a season. Selling Crouch was idiotic too. The main problem we have is replacing Alonso, Banega would be a good replacment. If I had it my way I would go out of my way to sign, Mata, Banega, Affeley and Higuain. Would think this would cost around 50-60mil although it should be done gradually not chuck 4 players in at once, maybe 2 in Jan and 2 in Summer. Also we have to Sign Llorente at all costs, his full name is Fernando Llorente Torres. Can you imagine having 2 Torres'?

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22 Oct 2010 11:21:23
Roy Hodgson today will anounce that he is stepping down

Making way for Frank Rycard to take over

Steven Gerrard has had a massive fallout with Hodgson along with other players in the squad

All bets are off for Rycard taking over

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22 Oct 2010 11:19:57
22 Oct 2010 11:11:43
- - - - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - - -
kelly- -Carra- - Skrtel- - Aurelio

- - - - - - - - - - agger - - - - - - - - -

- jhonson - -Gerard- - Raul- - Pacheco-/ jonv


- - - - - - - -Torres- Ngog- - - - - -

Looks good agger would to great in dm role


I could play DM if my team had 12 players

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22 Oct 2010 11:19:43
Liverpool aparently are speaking with ibrahim affelay and tim cahill about playing for liverpool

from woodhead( kieran woodley) {ed's note - Tim or Gary Cahill? Because I can guarantee there is no chance of Tim Cahill even being in consideration.}

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22 Oct 2010 11:17:04
Ed, John W Henry approached you for the fans board rep position?

you've got my vote!

red snake {ed's note - no mate, I don't think I would be the right person for the job anyway, I have a habit of saying exactly what I think. I am no diplomat! By the way speaking of Henry have you seen this article about how he has repossessed the engines from Gillett's NASCAR team? - http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/Richard-Petty-Motorsports-in-financial-crisis-in-NASCAR-Sprint-Cup-ranks-102110}

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22 Oct 2010 11:15:09
Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."

Heskey.

Cisse

zenden or degan

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22 Oct 2010 11:11:43
- - - - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - - -
kelly- -Carra- - Skrtel- - Aurelio

- - - - - - - - - - agger - - - - - - - - -

- jhonson - -Gerard- - Raul- - Pacheco-/ jonv


- - - - - - - -Torres- Ngog- - - - - -

Looks good agger would to great in dm role

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22 Oct 2010 11:10:02
I love liverpool and i hate to see them like this aparently we are getting darren bent and affeley so fingers crossed

Liverpool for life Charlie Beenham

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22 Oct 2010 11:09:13
Ed, do you think that there would be a good day soon, for Liverpool fans. . I mean, is there any saviour, who is looking to get rid of Roy hodgson. . I hope fans get together and show Roy, that its his time to leave. . Or else, it seems that we'd have to bear the defeats for long time. . thanks {ed's note - Roy took the job knowing he would have to perform a miracle to keep the job long term. He hasn't done so, so it is just a matter of time before NESV make the change.}

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22 Oct 2010 11:08:47
Players that should be sold
kuyt ngog poulsen konchesky agger he is injured to much arulio sorry about spelling.maxi milan the lad on loan at juventus,

hopefully get 40million plus money john henry will give.say 25 million. total of 65million should be enough to turn the team around

what you think ed.who would you keep and get rid off {ed's note - I would keep Kuyt myself, but play him up front alongside Torres. I would get rid of Babel, Ngog, Maxi, Kyrgiakos, Poulsen for now. The rest I would keep until the summer and re-examine things then.}

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22 Oct 2010 11:08:24
Lads I have to say it stinks reading all the slagging your giving Roy at the minute getting personal is childish lets be honest, I'm not sure he is the man for the job , but he is the manager and deserves respect. Is that not what Liverpool. Talking to my da about football he s man u by the way he said just be4 Ferguson took over manu where in the same position and look what they went on to do, so to coin a phrase that's being used alot recently KEEP THE FAITH. YNWA

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22 Oct 2010 11:05:27
{ed's note - oh sorry mate, I didn't realise you were asking me. All I know is that the players hate the training, they don't see any improvement from the hard work and they are losing motivation, which is making things worse. As confidence and performances aren't there, players are bickering and falling out over nothing. They don't think Roy is the right man for the job, they don't have confidence in him. This didn't come from a player direct, as neither would discuss this with me, but I was told that during the meeting they asked for NESV to change the manager as soon as possible. But both did say that they had been told Roy wasn't seen as a long term solution and that the search is on for a new manager and Roy would be removed as soon as they have the new man.}
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Hey Ed, If this is the case, I would assume the 2 players are ****. I don't expect this to be posted. . Unless I am way off the mark {ed's note - you are close mate.}

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22 Oct 2010 11:04:39
". .Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."

Heskey! !

Infact Babel reminds me of a fast heskey will less strength. . When are liverpool going to get a left and right winger that can cross the ball? Cant actually remember the last time we had two good wingers. .was it the late eightees?

Who agrees that Jonjo Shelvey should replace poulson in the middle. . Would love to see him and Steve G in the middle

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22 Oct 2010 10:53:39
Poulson why why why??

the only thing i can think is roy thought he was still at fulham no disrespect to fulham but maybe he would look good there

can someone answer anyone why why why why?? ?

shelvey looks better

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22 Oct 2010 10:51:00
I ment could you tell me what you know ed {ed's note - oh sorry mate, I didn't realise you were asking me. All I know is that the players hate the training, they don't see any improvement from the hard work and they are losing motivation, which is making things worse. As confidence and performances aren't there, players are bickering and falling out over nothing. They don't think Roy is the right man for the job, they don't have confidence in him. This didn't come from a player direct, as neither would discuss this with me, but I was told that during the meeting they asked for NESV to change the manager as soon as possible. But both did say that they had been told Roy wasn't seen as a long term solution and that the search is on for a new manager and Roy would be removed as soon as they have the new man.}

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22 Oct 2010 10:45:10
Liverpool team
reina gk
derby or kelly shawcroft caggs bridge or bale

cole kaka gerrard glen johnson as mid

torres and agentina lad from athlectico madird

subs jones spearing shelvy bent from sunderland cattermole needs to charm down his tackles though.lad from psv torrient or however ya spell his name.ade from man city, should win prem or be very close

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22 Oct 2010 10:43:58
22 Oct 2010 10:36:28
Can you tell me what you Know/ heard of the manager

His name is Roy. He like Poulsen

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22 Oct 2010 10:42:26
To those trying their hands at Liverpool formations, Joe Cole should not be in the team on current form and Carra should sit on the bench when Agger is fit.

So it is
Reina

GJ/ MK DA/ JM MS/ K K/ Aurelio
Lucas
Gerrard Miereles

Kuyt Torres Jova/ Cole/ Pacheco

- - - - - - - - - - - -
Joe Cole is so out of form, its a joke he is earning 90k per week. He also has a hero or superman complex.

Carragher is an has been. Giving him a 2 year contract is mind-boggingly stupid. Makes no bit of sense.

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22 Oct 2010 10:42:11
Hey ed, sorry i have been lookin for the post where u said that, u were talking t players who informed u that roy would be leaving. could u please tell me when u found that out, how real u think it was and when a decision should be made. now i know about the 3 million pay off for roy but is it true that it must be done within 21 days of the new owners {ed's note - I think it was Monday that I mentioned it on here, but I could be wrong, it might have been after that. I heard from one on Sunday evening, the other Monday. I think it is real, they both seemed to believe it, I mean they could have been winding me up, but they seemed far too down about what was happening to be joking. From what they were saying Roy's methods are hated, maybe if he had got off to a good start and things were looking up they would put up with it and get on with things. But when you hate the training you are doing and see no results from it, well it is hard to keep going and stay motivated. The pay off is real, I think it was Purslow who confirmed it a few days ago, but it is a month from a takeover not 21 days.}

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22 Oct 2010 10:41:57
Ed, how much do we have to spend in jan, im hearing from 15 million to 45 milllion. what do you think? and do u feel there is a big name player out there for us in jan?? {ed's note - it depends on sales mate, but I very much doubt NESV will provide anything like 45m to spend.}

dont think anybody can guess how much don't think they will give a manager say 20million in one go think it could be less or it could be more i think they will take a transfer and if it warrants spending x amount on each transfer they will then see what they can do

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22 Oct 2010 10:36:28
Can you tell me what you Know/ heard of the manager

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22 Oct 2010 10:33:11
I believe everyone is entitled to an opinion, that's why sites like this one are excellent, for providing fans to do just that.I have held a season ticket for 25 years, but i don't think my opinions should have more credit, because i go to live games.You don't have to go to the games to support your team and you don't hae to agree with the Manager.I have not really enjoyed my football for the last eleven years, because of the tactics the last three managers employ at home.That will not stop me going to the games because it is now apart of me. I love this club, period.I have of late got frustrated with the game as a whole because the Entertainment value as gone and Egos are growing.and when you see the club handing out 2 year contracts to players who are no longer worthy of playing for the club.Carra was giving his chance at 20 but is stagnation really boils me now. I watch him week in week out Hoofing the ball and screaming at young players. I took my child to his testimonial only to see him score for his beloved boyhood team Everton.that sickened me and my son who is 7.But this is my opinion some people may agee with me, but that's what lifes about.Its all about opinions.PS great site Ed.

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22 Oct 2010 10:29:42
I don't think it's a matter of Hodgson getting the sack. He will be removed on the basis his contract states that new owners can replace him within the first 28 days of their ownership by paying £3m compensation to him within 48 hours. It will all be very amicable.
£3m for coming up to 4 months work. Hodgson would have to have worked a full 3 years to get that at Fulham. Not bad! !

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22 Oct 2010 10:19:47
Ed have you spoken to the 2 players (since Roy's interveiw on SSN) that gave you the info on Roy leaving?
Aroc {ed's note - I haven't mate, I am hoping to get some word from one of them today, but I am not expecting the position to have changed. All Roy said was that he wasn't going to resign, well that was never on the cards anyway.}

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22 Oct 2010 10:19:34
To the person who said:

"Would love to see


- - - - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - - -
Johnson/ Kelly- -Carra- - Agger/ Skrtl- -Aurelio
- - - - - - - - - -Lucas- - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - Raul- - - - - - - -Gerard- - - - -
Kuyt/ Maxi- - - - - Cole- - - - - -Jova/ Babel
- - - - - - - - - - - -Torres- - - - - - - -

I think we have the team to play 4-1-2-3-1"


You are a muppet and should not be allowed to post. Suggest you count the players first.

While we are on the topic iwld be interested to see the following take to the field:

- - - - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - - -
Johnson- -Carra- - Agger/ Skrtel- - Aurelio

- - - - - - - - - - -Lucas - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - Cole- - - Gerard- - Raul- -

- - - - - - - - -Pacheco- - - -

- - - - - - - - - -Torres- - - - - - - -

With johnson and aurelio bombing down the wings, supported by Cole, pacheco and Raul rotating to fill the gaps. .granted it doesn't give much width but then again we don't have natural wingers . Going forward pacheco links with torres, and on defence he slots in to become a flatter/ wider midfield.

Redmist

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22 Oct 2010 10:16:26
Appently frank ricard sorry about spelling

is 2/ 5 on
the ex mardid manager 5.1 odds gone up from 4.5

when is roy likely to be sacked ed {ed's note - I was told as soon as a new man is ready to take over. If it is a manager like Rijkaard, who is out of work, then it won't be long, what worries me is if it is a manager currently employed elsewhere. That could take significantly longer and I don't see how we can afford to wait much longer. Not with a manager that the players don't want and know is on borrowed time.}

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22 Oct 2010 10:15:55
Hey guys,
When Agger returns from injury, I believe we should play Agger and Skrtel as our two first choice centre backs. Carra and Soto as back-ups. Press believable if you agree with me.
-Sahil

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22 Oct 2010 10:13:51
A couple of things.

Nobody seems to like Roy as manager ( and I agree ) - However he IS the manager so can we stop with the Alzheimer etc. comments please. The man may not be up to the job but he deserves respect.

Attacking football. Agreed we've been playing defensive football for a long long time now but if we really want attacking football then Kevin Keegan! :)

Otherwise I'll settle for a manager that plays players in position and 'goes for it' when playing against the likes of Blackpool at home. . ( maybe even away )

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22 Oct 2010 10:13:39
Ed, how much do we have to spend in jan, im hearing from 15 million to 45 milllion. what do you think?? and do u feel there is a big name player out there for us in jan? ? {ed's note - it depends on sales mate, but I very much doubt NESV will provide anything like 45m to spend.}

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22 Oct 2010 10:13:39
I am the same as a lot of fans as in. we like roy hodgson but he is not good enough for liverpool. he had about 20million to spend on players. ok that's not a lot.but did not spend it wisely. we signed konchesky and her is a pile of rubbish. 3.5million not good. poulsen 4million not good. brad jones 2million so 9.5 million there. that could of been used to sign a striker.the portugal lad we have is decent though but 12million may be a bit too much.

we could of signed reme the french lad. van der vart for 8million but appently we turned him down why.

not first time lfc have made silly mistakes like that
diouf instead of anekla is one

ps roy go now please

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22 Oct 2010 10:12:26
In reply to.

Would love to see


- - - - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - - -
Johnson/ Kelly- -Carra- - Agger/ Skrtl- -Aurelio
- - - - - - - - - -Lucas- - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - Raul- - - - - - - -Gerard- - - - -
Kuyt/ Maxi- - - - - Cole- - - - - -Jova/ Babel
- - - - - - - - - - - -Torres- - - - - - - -


I think we have the team to play 4-1-2-3-1

If you put lucas at the base of the mid the defence will have to have a fantasticd day not to get beaten or pepe would have to have the best game of his life even with 12 players on the pitch. Lucas is not a defensive mid and canot distribute the ball from there. Id much rather see a midfield comprising of gerrard, mirelles and shelvey. Also think spearing had a good game last night to be fair, but start playing shelvey now he is only going to get better, future england captain there.

Bob Loblaw

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22 Oct 2010 09:52:22
Couple of things. maybe off point but still valid.

If you read across the spectrum of sites (and this is the best) concerning liverpool there is a growing tendancy for for something like the following to appear, and i papraphrase. .
"only true supporters who go to the match deserve to complain about the performance etc"

Now i have a problem with this. I have followed liverpool for 45 years (everyone else is showing theirs i thought i would as well) i used to be a season ticket holder. but work, family, living other end of country means i don't get to matches as much as i would like. does this mean i can't have an opinion. does this logic mean that a supporter in say australia or india doesn't have the right to voice an opinion.

On Roy. i like the man. he seems an intelligent and decent man. but totally wrong for liverpool. he is a mid table team manager. you can see his ethos. he always styarts with the premise of not losing. by any means. This means that attacking flair is lagging behind the fear of losing!
I would much rather lose 5-4. to actually have a go. to attack other teams rather than this tired old mentality of safety first.

I will follow and support liverpool. i always will. but i don't have to like the turgid tactics we are employing at the moment

chris 1

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22 Oct 2010 09:45:09
Can i just say one thing that us liverpool fans are expecting our historyto do the winning for us we will only win by playing well and unfortunatly we havemt well except arsenal 1st game of the season

Thanks Frenchy

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22 Oct 2010 09:44:03
In reply to this:

(Steven Gerrard and Toress have had clear the air talks and been told to get on with it!)

Sorry mate not sure who youre source is but I know a back room staff member and he says there has been no falling out and the rumours are false. Just like all the other ones that come out regarding players. He might be lying to me but I very much doubt it as ig there had been a fallen out the rags would be all over it with pics and talk of both players leaving.

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22 Oct 2010 09:40:39
Ed - I haven't seen any signs of improvement since Roy took over. In fact, I think we look worse now than we did in some of the pre-season games where we played with a bit of freedom.

Please tell me that you are 100% sure that Roy will be gone within the next couple of weeks? I can't take any more of this awful football.

{Editor's Note: I can't say that I am afraid.}

How sure are you then?!

MH

{Editor's NOte: I am 100% sure that I can't guarantee 100% that Roy Hodgson will be gone in the next couple of weeks. I think there is onloy a remote chance he will be gone that soon.}

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22 Oct 2010 09:38:01
Would love to see


- - - - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - - -
Johnson/ Kelly- -Carra- - Agger/ Skrtl- -Aurelio
- - - - - - - - - -Lucas- - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - Raul- - - - - - - -Gerard- - - - -
Kuyt/ Maxi- - - - - Cole- - - - - -Jova/ Babel
- - - - - - - - - - - -Torres- - - - - - - -


I think we have the team to play 4-1-2-3-1

{Editor's Note: Just the twelve players then.}

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22 Oct 2010 09:36:07
Fellow Reds and The ED;
I think Turan can play. Look at Silva, Yossi. .many others. .all lightweight players who can more than just play in the EPL lol. i think its well worth the gamble. Even Neymar and Alexis Sanchez are worth the risk.

I constantly get the feeling that this man, Roy, has gone senile. He has lost the plot and his own bearings. he lives in a world where Liverpool are 'playing well. .better every time'. alzheimer's could be a cause.
Up until now i have voiced my concern about Roy's ability while maintaining some respect for the old codger. no sense anymore, he's mad.

After the game against Napoli, the old fool said;
"That was a team performance that I as a coach and Liverpool as a football club can be proud of."
The performance way barely passable. .the same old meaningless and aimless passing around the back. The only change was that since the lads were the second string and fringe players, they played with a bit more motivation and the self-started desire to make a push for the first team. . you could see the lads make an effort, but a wayward and misdirected one. .because of a lack of management and tactics.

Poulsen was absolute rubbish. And i think the reason even our better players are not performing under this man is because his tactics and training are just not good enough. You can see that on the pitch the lads seem to get bored and frustrated playing in that system, and no one can find a creative spark. You just see Gerrard surging forward himself in frustration, our players getting booked for frustrated tackles, and Torres drifting around the attacking third begging for a pass. NGog was actually more mature under Rafa than under Roy it seems. When i look at that man on the sideline, it makes me feel ill. . it makes my skin crawl. .he's like a confused and hurt old crypt keeper. .i don't want him managing the club i wait each day to watch. .
Solution, Either Roy goes, or many fans just save themselves the heartache and stop watching games altogether. .

Roy needs to go. PLEASE GOD! if anyone's listening. .that man is naive, mediocre and has absolutely no charisma or personality as a leader. He is irresponsible with what he says and i'm beginning to believe now that while it is a joke, it really does seem like he may well be in with Fergie, trying to push Torres and Reina to the manure scum or something.

More players, better manager, faith and belief. we need everything a club needs

Red winger

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22 Oct 2010 09:34:47
". .Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."Konchescky


Muzmacol YNWA

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22 Oct 2010 09:34:30
I don't know what went on at half time, but Napoli nearly scored just before the break, when Carra should have stopped a cross coming in. He didn't get a touch and that gave the opportunity of clear chance, which fortunately Konchesky cleared. I would be very surprised that Roy and Carra didn't have words about this, resulting in Roy making a change. If this is the case then I totally agree with Roy.For me Carrai s becoming a liability all he does is shout at other players.You got any word why the change was made Ed?

{Editor's Note: I have no idea myself.}

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22 Oct 2010 09:32:09
22 Oct 2010 08:38:26
". .Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."

Heskey.

Cisse

Voronin

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22 Oct 2010 09:31:17
Not a bad performance but some players gave the ball away to easily eg. babel and kelly. i noticed kelly would have no one to pass to i.e. no one ran into space.
OR, maybe he gave the ball away because the football was so boring that he almost fell asleep (like me)

we need to see some one-touch football so that ngog/ torres will get some decent chances unlike right now. it will be tragic if roy is still here to waste money in the january transfer window

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22 Oct 2010 09:28:50
Why do u never answer, who u think should be the new manager if roy is sacked and what players are needed? ?

{Editor's Note: I would rather wait until the situation occurs - but you have the opinion's of two Eds on the subject in this mornings posts.}

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22 Oct 2010 09:28:42
One good thing came out of last nights match and that's the emergence of John Joe shelvey the lad surely deserves a regular first team place , a couple of years of first team football and he'd be a class act , what you think ed?

{Editor's Note: He did well and will no doubt get more starts eventually becoming a regular.}

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22 Oct 2010 09:23:31
Hows it goin ed? heard payet will be ariving in January for 8 mil & el zahar, is there any truth on the kerzhakov guy from zenit?

BigBirdBilly

{Editor's Note: I have heard nothing of any consequence about Payet; Aleksandr Kerzhakov seems most unlikely.}

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22 Oct 2010 09:23:21
I am at a loss as to why the expectation is for us to challenge for every tournament we enter. . our squad is the poorest we have had since Souness was at the helm and even then he played with an attacking mind, ask yourselves how many of our players would get in any of the current top 6 squads? Maybe 4, out of 25 that aint very good, new owners which has given everyone a small boost but it is the same old rubbish. The sooner Hodgson goes the better, I don't care who they get in as long as they try and score goals (which hodgson seems reluctant to do) Rijkaard please (along with Villa, Messi, Bojan etc)

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22 Oct 2010 09:19:17
Come on ed, tell us who you think should manage the club amd what players are needed? ?

{Editor's Note: Pellegrini would be a good option whilst one of the other Eds thinks Sean O'Driscoll; Darren Bent - although the whispers are that the club may be interested in Guillaume Hoarau of PSG and Syvain Marveaux of Rennes - who is out of contract in June. These would be two excellent players to bring in.}

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22 Oct 2010 09:13:47
Ed, the one question u never answer is, what players would u like t c come in in jan

{Editor's Note: Darren Bent would give the squad something that is missing.}

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22 Oct 2010 09:13:09
Shelvey should play on the right vs blackburn

No. We must stop playing players out of position.

EST.1892

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22 Oct 2010 09:12:54
". .Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."

Kuyt

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22 Oct 2010 09:06:46
Ed, What u think of this? ?
Ian Hollway liverpools new manager.
He plays great football, he always has a go and doesn sit back. He is a bit mad but i feel the players would react well t him.
what do people think?

{Editor's Note: I think it unlikely.}

unlikely, yes i no but do u agree that it could work

{Editor's Note: Possibly.}

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22 Oct 2010 09:06:17
Ryan Babel insists he is not concerned about people talking about his future at Liverpool.
The Reds forward, who has struggled to establish himself at Anfield, was given a rare start on Thursday against Napoli in the Europa League.
Babel failed to score in the 0-0 draw in Naples and looks set to return to the bench as Liverpool face Blackburn on Sunday.
And the Dutchman is refusing to discuss whether his future lies at Anfield.
"It is always the same story, this is your chance, this is your chance, " he told Sky Sports News.
"I don't see it like that any more, it is just another game and I do it for myself.
"My situation is clear for everyone so I don't need to talk about it, I have said enough things in the past so I don't want to talk about it."

i think if this is what he said it just abouts sums up that he can't be botthered

Chris

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22 Oct 2010 09:05:53
22 Oct 2010 06:27:41
Elia, Turan, Darren Bent, Lassana Diarra, Wayne Bridge, Kun Aguero
Six players that could transform the team (wishful thinking?)
Wayne Bridge?? he's useless. .think Taiwo wud be a better option n if we can get our finger out we could get him for free. .think the rest are spot on, altho think it would cost a fortune to get Bent, jus cus he's english! id like us to move for Llorente instead. .

{Editor's Note: Taiwo would be a great recruit but it is clear that he is looking for a new contract to stay with Marseille - it is just down to money.}

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22 Oct 2010 09:04:07
". .Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."


poulsen

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22 Oct 2010 08:55:27
22 Oct 2010 08:38:26
". .Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."

Heskey.

Cisse

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22 Oct 2010 08:55:13
Ed, What u think of this? ?
Ian Hollway liverpools new manager.
He plays great football, he always has a go and doesn sit back. He is a bit mad but i feel the players would react well t him.
what do people think??

{Editor's Note: I think it unlikely.}

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22 Oct 2010 08:53:15
Ed - I haven't seen any signs of improvement since Roy took over. In fact, I think we look worse now than we did in some of the pre-season games where we played with a bit of freedom.

Please tell me that you are 100% sure that Roy will be gone within the next couple of weeks? I can't take any more of this awful football.

{Editor's Note: I can't say that I am afraid.}

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22 Oct 2010 08:49:54
Afellay and Turan both want to play for us natural wide players ok the dutch one also said the swum but hey everybody can't be perfect.

2 quiet young solid international players have experience of playing for top clubs in there countrys

just seems to be a no brainer to me

what do you think ed?

tazz YNWA

{Editor's Note: Both are good players. Afellay will go anywhere where there is more money and a big name club. Turan seems to be a supporter who has repeatedly said his dream is to play for the club. Possibly a little lightweight for the EPL.}

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22 Oct 2010 08:46:06
I thought when Cole came on last night and played behind Ngog he looked lively. Def his best position and should play there on Sunday behind Torres. Overall a better performance but still need more threat going forward.

EST.1892

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22 Oct 2010 08:43:24
"get 'Roy Out' conspiracy theories abound, "

With respect to all , do you really think the posts on this site will have any influence on the owners decision?
Great site for rumours and opinions but the decisions that matter will be made by people who probably don't even know the site exists.

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22 Oct 2010 08:38:26
". .Can anyone name me a Liverpool player in the past decade with a worse first touch than Babel?. ."

Heskey.

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22 Oct 2010 08:27:21
. .". .Moral of the story? If you can't say anything that's even remotely constructive about the club I love, then h* * o* and go and support the bitter b* tards across the park, or the s* te up the east lancs."

A touch too much arrogance from you there my friend. There are many fans as equally passionate about our club as you clearly are and they have as much right to an opinion as you do. You are niaive in the extreme if you think that it is a 'crime' to discuss negative aspects of our club.

I don't think that Babel or Poulsen should be anywhere near our club because, in my opinion, they are nowhere near good enough. .is that me banished then in your world? ?

Frenchy.

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22 Oct 2010 08:18:45
A sad news to all us guys out there hoping for RIJKAARD or change of manager. Apparently WILLIAMHILL has suspended the betting for the next permanent liverpool manager. This could mean
1. The manager is stayin
2. The manager has been decided and we have to wait

I wish the latter.

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22 Oct 2010 08:04:39
Ithought Jovanovic looked better yesterday, created 2 good opportunities for babel with good passes, but came inside too much and can hold on to a bit too long.Babel was annoying again but did good tracking back and looks better in the middle aswell.

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22 Oct 2010 07:55:02
I think after the last match, we can clearly see that Hodgson improved a bit by letting our youngsters play.

Jovanovic: After last match, showed why he should start.
Spearing: Showed some signs of being the next Gerrard
Shelvey: Was actually pretty good last night, better than Maxi at least.
Ngog: Showed why he should start next to Torres
Babel: Showed how useless he was

I liked the squad that played yesterday, weren't amazing, but played better then we did against Blackpool.

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22 Oct 2010 07:22:59
Shelvey should play on the right vs blackburn.

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22 Oct 2010 07:21:33
People hear have been saying that JC is unable to play every game and is past his best, yet you are complaining that he is taken off during a match when he clearly wasn't needed due to the lack of an attacking threat. a bit hypocritical, what do u think ED?

{Editor's Note: I was surprised he was given another two years.}

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22 Oct 2010 06:51:22
Morning. another boring match lastnite. some of the young lads did well but that's about all we got out of it. i know alot of people don't like Rafa but i must say i for one would like him back right now. did people use to say rafa was a negative coach? ?? what does that make roy? ?? i like roy, lovely bloke but maybe he is the right man in the wrong job (qoute from tomkins times). I think the prob was with rafa is that he was one of us and got stubborn like alot of you on this site, everyone has an opinion but its listening to others that people can't seem to do on here. bring back rafa all is forgiven.
matty b

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22 Oct 2010 06:49:03
I'm reading today rumours/ banter in amazement. "great performance last night" etc etc. A nil nil draw against a side who looked very average. Napoli where there for the taking. Can't believe we're all accepting lower standards.

The meters still running on the cab I called for Poulsen and Roy 2 week ago. Fellas can you squeeze Sammy Lee in it too (hrs only a little fella).

RedTed (fan of 43 years - seeing as people are beginning to compare sizes :-) )

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22 Oct 2010 06:28:47
I was reasonably happy with the performance last night. We looked solid, and kept our shape really well. When Joe came on we looked really good. Shelvey is ready now, and certainly worth a bench place from now on. Roy said right things after game, and now just needs to make sure he learns the Liverpool way in saying right thing at the right time. Babel couldn't trap a bag of cement last night, and then went on a bit of a rant afterwards. Ah well Ryan! How many chances do you want? Milan looked OK and never gave up so I'm happy with that. We should be able to turn Blackburn over, so I will go there Sunday, confident!
Hope everyone who was there last night get's to the game on Sunday. .Great support lads. Steve1961

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22 Oct 2010 06:27:41
So much going on here and like the rest of youse am gutted with the way things have gone. I totally understand the posts supporting giving Woy more time. As a lifelong red i have done the same with all our managers (inc. the Souness era!). However the situation is different now. We are at our lowest league position in 43 years. We are playing the worst football i have seen and i include Rafa's last season in that statement. The tactics are woefully defensive (against Blackpool at home?? ). Poulsen continues to get a game when even Lucas is a better player. Shelvey doesn't make the bench, WHY he is quality and would surely grow into a first team role playing next to Stevie. Pacheco never gets on the field, WHY when he is absolute quality and can create something out of nothing (which at the moment we are missing). Then there are the comments of the manager. Forget the Torres comments blown out of all proportion. But the Post derby comments were ridiculous and embarrassing. I am sorry if this upsets a few of you but for once i have to agree with the majority. Roy is a lovely bloke but he has to go. We need a coach who can take control of the dressing room and the ego's. Who is tactically aware and has the ability to take us up the table, not into a relegation dog fight!
We also need to get Shelvey, Kelly, Pacheco and Amoo more first team starts. Maybe not all at the same time but these lads won't progress without first team games. We need to get rid of dead wood- Jovanovic, Maxi, Poulsen, Lucas, Babel, Konchesky none of this lot are good enough to play for the reds.
Why do i keep seeing sell Skrtl? He was a rock last night give him time to make the CB slot his own as he is coming back to the sort of form he showed when he put Drogba in his pocket at Anfield.
Rumours-
Elia, Turan, Darren Bent, Lassana Diarra, Wayne Bridge, Kun Aguero
Six players that could transform the team (wishful thinking? )

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22 Oct 2010 05:47:27
I wd go for Rijkaard - he can not only attract big names like Afellay, Turan etc who have practically begged to play for us, but also willing to promote youth players (Pacheco, Shelvey) - very much like Wenger. Bojan Krkic for Liverpool?

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22 Oct 2010 04:17:32
I know I am dreaming so I'd like to see we bring out johann cruyff to take charge

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22 Oct 2010 04:06:41
So JC went off at half time, big deal! Why don't you people stop reading into every little thing you can and see it for what it is. Roy wanted to see what Napoli had an when he seen jut how poo they were, he thought he'd take off carra as there was no need to worry. and right he was too!

He could have played Wilson although as they are 4th in the Italian league, he has clearly taken precautions. If they had been performing well then I'm sure Carra would have stayed on the pitch but why risk him when there was no need?

If Roy didn't already know he was sacked then he may have left them all on but clearly he is still focussed on the red men.

any manager wouldn't waste a sub jus cos he was seeing how the other team was, hes not gunna say oh ill put carra on for half the game see how napoli r, u use subs to make things better for the team to try change things for the better, if it is true that he did it for that reason then poor manager he is, , , he shoulda took gerrard or torres atleast on the bench to help change things for the better, , , ok he wants them for blackburn but last 20 mins won't make much difference to there fitness, and don't say ohh incase they get injured cos they can get injured anytime any game they can get injured against blackburn, , , and be out for rest of season no excuses, players in the good old days where playing nearly every game and liverpool was winning the league still sorry but no excuses so early in the season to rest players. .me personally i think roy is done, , his tactics don't work his player awareness is crap, , , hes jus not up to the job, , ed your opinion please print this on to the rumours page so i can see ur reply thanks mate!

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22 Oct 2010 03:16:23
Lets all get behind the manager an team all as one then the wins will come.togetherness breaths success division leads to nothing come on u reds. .

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22 Oct 2010 03:15:48
So JC went off at half time, big deal! Why don't you people stop reading into every little thing you can and see it for what it is. Roy wanted to see what Napoli had an when he seen jut how poo they were, he thought he'd take off carra as there was no need to worry. and right he was too!

He could have played Wilson although as they are 4th in the Italian league, he has clearly taken precautions. If they had been performing well then I'm sure Carra would have stayed on the pitch but why risk him when there was no need?

If Roy didn't already know he was sacked then he may have left them all on but clearly he is still focussed on the red men.

Ed, does this make sense or am i missing something here? {ed's note - that makes no sense to me. If it was because he didn't fear Napoli he wouldn't have brought on Kyrgiakos, it would have been a youngster. He was still worried about them, that is why he brought on an experienced player. Which suggests to me that something went wrong at half time to make Roy take off Carra. It is not like it doesn't happen on a regular basis to football teams all round the world anyway. Managers argue with players and take them off, it isn't a big deal normally.}

could it be for tactical reasons? i mean, Greek attacks set-pieces while Carra doesn't

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22 Oct 2010 02:37:49
Roy is a joke - just read his post match comments in full - you're not at Fulham anymore Roy - you shouldn't be delighted with a goalless draw mate - check your next pay slip and read who your employer is - Liverpool FC mate - there was nothing "delightful" about that draw - I have a sore head from shaking it in disbelief as I read that tripe of an interview - LIVERPRES

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22 Oct 2010 02:22:49
Anyone think N'gog actually looked good at times tonight?! Babel is such a lazy git! He lost the ball so much & hardly ever chased back! He's gotta go in Jan! All he has is pace! Any offer of £5 - 8m should seriously be considered! Such wasted potential! !

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22 Oct 2010 02:19:00
Roy Hodgson - Put all these poor tactical performances and substitutions aside for one moment - our current manager will not stand up for our players (Fergies jibe at Torres) or our club (not dismissing Manc interest in Torres) in the media, and is satisfied with mediocre and even poor (Everton) results. As a result, he has little to zero respect from many fans and I suspect many players - how can Liverpool progress with him at the helm - he needs to be sacked on this basis alone - nothing to do with performances, so giving him time is irrelevant. He needs to come out in the media, admit his shortcomings and vow to do what it takes to turn things around. He also needs to commit to resigining if he can't show signs of improvement before December (ie - one month). Then he will deserve more time (one month) or walk away - LIVERPRES

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22 Oct 2010 02:11:15
Ed, He brought the Greek on because he is poo and needed game time. Not because he'd had words or something with Carra. Carra is miles above him in class. The Greek was just a safer bet than a youngster. It's so obvious but because of everything that going on, everybody wants to read into every finest detail.

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22 Oct 2010 02:09:43
Working my buns off all day Ed so only got the result & team line ups. Quick questions, why was Pacheco not there? And why had we only 6 subs when we're allowed 7 to my knowledge? Ed, or anyone?? ?

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22 Oct 2010 01:45:13
Ed, Can you explain how there were replies to my post before my post was even posted? REDALLOVER {ed's note - I am confused mate, there weren't any before it was posted, I don't know what you are referring to?}
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It was posted on the banter page 1st and brought across onto the rumours page.

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - oh did I post them in different places? I keep doing that lately with replies - it gets confusing remembering where the original one was posted, my error then sorry redallover!}
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ED i thought i said i brought it across onto the rumours page (which i shoud've) apology's mate if you thought your head was going.

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - I think I need sleep mate lol.}

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22 Oct 2010 01:42:17
So JC went off at half time, big deal! Why don't you people stop reading into every little thing you can and see it for what it is. Roy wanted to see what Napoli had an when he seen jut how poo they were, he thought he'd take off carra as there was no need to worry. and right he was too!

He could have played Wilson although as they are 4th in the Italian league, he has clearly taken precautions. If they had been performing well then I'm sure Carra would have stayed on the pitch but why risk him when there was no need?

If Roy didn't already know he was sacked then he may have left them all on but clearly he is still focussed on the red men.

Ed, does this make sense or am i missing something here? {ed's note - that makes no sense to me. If it was because he didn't fear Napoli he wouldn't have brought on Kyrgiakos, it would have been a youngster. He was still worried about them, that is why he brought on an experienced player. Which suggests to me that something went wrong at half time to make Roy take off Carra. It is not like it doesn't happen on a regular basis to football teams all round the world anyway. Managers argue with players and take them off, it isn't a big deal normally.}

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22 Oct 2010 01:37:47
I believe there is truth about hodgson days are numbered and maybe he'll be gone even as soon as tomorrow.
what makes me surprise though, the bookies odd on Frank Rijkaard as LFC new manager is very low, it's hard for me to believe he's not the one who'll be replacing Roy.
Any news on where is Rijkaard now, Ed? {ed's note - no mate, nothing on him at all.}

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22 Oct 2010 01:36:38
Caughtoffside.com state that Frank Rijkaard is close to becoming Liverpool FC manager, no surprises but maybe it's heading in that direction now.

Good display by some of our youngsters tonight, efforts on goal were there and Shelvey looked good.

What's your opinion of display? Believe = Good Unbelieve = Poor.

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22 Oct 2010 01:32:01
22 Oct 2010 01:19:34
Ed I post on the 'rumours' page, you put it on the 'banter' page, Blair maine replies on the 'rumours' page? Politics, politics, the get 'Roy Out' conspiracy theories abound, ask RAFA! {ed's note - lol no mate, nothing to do with politics, everyone posts things to the rumours page, whether it is a rumour or not. I just got in the habit of posting things to the banter page tonight as everything was match talk. Sorry mate, I am getting tired and making mistakes, I really thought I had posted it on the rumours page, hence why I put the reply on there.}
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Your right mate "Politics, Politics, Politics" "Conspiracy theories" etc.

I was also the 2nd gunman behind the grassy knoll.

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - I knew it!!}

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22 Oct 2010 01:29:41
With referenceto the earlier post

Rijkaard can't be judged simply because he once spat at somebody, as bad as it was, i'm sure you'd be cheering if he did it to a manure or everton player.

He will bring attacking football to our team even using the players we have, hopefully including Pacheco who is the most exciting thing i'v seen for some time if only he could be given a chance.

I say bring Rijkaard in, he may give our youth a chance and as they showed tonight, they are not affraid of a fight an will show what they're made of unlike the 1st team crop who take it for granted and don't give a toss if we get beat.

Ed, any updates on when Roy will get his marching orders? {ed's note - nothing new mate.}

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22 Oct 2010 01:19:34
Ed I post on the 'rumours' page, you put it on the 'banter' page, Blair maine replies on the 'rumours' page? Politics, politics, the get 'Roy Out' conspiracy theories abound, ask RAFA! {ed's note - lol no mate, nothing to do with politics, everyone posts things to the rumours page, whether it is a rumour or not. I just got in the habit of posting things to the banter page tonight as everything was match talk. Sorry mate, I am getting tired and making mistakes, I really thought I had posted it on the rumours page, hence why I put the reply on there.}

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22 Oct 2010 01:15:39
REDALLOVER

Have just had a similar discussion on the LFC Forum.

I too - Blair - have been a supporter for 47 years and while I am not happy with performances under Roy so far have enough experience to know that in these trying times we need to give our manager more not less support. I remember Fergie being on the brink of being ousted from Utd but 1 win that completely changed his season also changed the history of Man Utd. We can't wait forever but I think we can afford Roy a few more games.
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I said that about 3-4 games ago RED and fought Roy's corner and asked to give him time. But nothing's changed since, we should be still smiling after the fiasco that was H&G. But his tactic's, comments etc just arn't good enough and depressive for me personally, to be an LFC manager.

If we give him another few games i fear the damage will be irreparable.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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22 Oct 2010 01:12:49
One game down another to go before Roy's spell at Anfield is over?

I think everyone of the 'so called' Liverpool supporters on this site who have been calling for the managers head to roll need to start asking themselves some very serious questions.

Last night we seen the 'reserves' put up one of the clubs best performances of a difficult season against Napoli, in an environment many an experienced player has buckled in, and it still draws complaints! Roy takes a gamble in playing an inexperienced side which pays off, they come out with a good result, and still some knobheads can't see the wood for the trees. (Bluenoses in disguise?)

Take the crap being talked about on the so called 'Torres to United' article. Of those who took it as read that Roy was virtually inviting United to come and get him, did you actually take the time to read the full f* *ing arcticle and put it in its true context? No, did you f* *!

The truth is this so called 'rumour' page continues to be riddled with dickheads posting threads that have absolutely nothing to do with rumours. For example having just gone through an entire sale process in which every man and his dog claimed to be in the know, can anyone step forward and claim to have identified the new owners as NESV? I often wonder how many of those submitting 'rumours' threads have actually been to a Reds game, let alone put themselves up as being 'in the know'?

Now the media is supposedly picking up on the fans 'so called' discontentments on Roy via this site, what will this lead to? It will become ridiculed and untrustworthy, just like many on here like to ridicule the other so called fan sites.

Having followed the REDMEN for 40 odd years home and away, my loyalties run deep. And its still my belief that, as in all previous generations, and irrelevant of who the manager is, its the job of the owners and the board to make the decisions that influence what will happen on the park.

Moral of the story? If you can't say anything that's even remotely constructive about the club I love, then f* * o* and go and support the bitter b* tards across the park, or the s* te up the east lancs.

REDALLOVER (WALK ON)
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I'll say somthing constructive "Roy's just not f*cking good enough" the league dosn't lie.

It's not just tonight's game it's all the games he's just to neagitive, tactic's are suspicious, subs are confusing and last but not least his comments are not what LFC fans want to hear.

Just like you we have an opinion hence why we post them on this site just like you did.

Blair (loyal fan for 37 years) Mayne YNWA

Just to follow this up, i totally agree. . .unless Roy changes his tactics and starts to be more positive, we will be bottom of the league. Yes he can tujrn it around but he has to start playing people in their real positions. . .does the original poster really want a manager who is trying to play counter attack football and play for a draw against the mighty BLACKPOOL at ANFIELD? . . . if he does he should go and support a championship side, because believe me there is NO team in the premier league who will play the same tactics as we did against Blackpool at HOME!

Any thoughts on thi, ed or anyone else? {ed's note - Roy lost me with his comments following the Everton game, he should have been fuming not happy!}

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22 Oct 2010 01:12:21
What has happened to our 12th man? ?

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22 Oct 2010 01:09:39
RE Ed check through your threads la, how has Blair Maine replied on the back of my post, when my post was not posted? If your still unsure I'll send you a timeline of posts! I hope this site is not a f*cking wind up and being used for the politics of a few? {ed's note - he replied after your post was put on the site. The top ones are the latest ones, when the site is updated new posts are placed on top.}

Exactly. .look at the threads and the timelines Ed! {ed's note - yes mate, sorry it is my fault, I put your first post on the wrong page - it went on the banter page. So it was there for Blair to see and reply to. My apologies.}

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22 Oct 2010 01:02:39
22 Oct 2010 00:54:19
Ed, Can you explain how there were replies to my post before my post was even posted? REDALLOVER {ed's note - I am confused mate, there weren't any before it was posted, I don't know what you are referring to?}
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It was posted on the banter page 1st and brought across onto the rumours page.

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - oh did I post them in different places? I keep doing that lately with replies - it gets confusing remembering where the original one was posted, my error then sorry redallover!}

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22 Oct 2010 01:01:58
REDALLOVER

Have just had a similar discussion on the LFC Forum.

I too - Blair - have been a supporter for 47 years and while I am not happy with performances under Roy so far have enough experience to know that in these trying times we need to give our manager more not less support. I remember Fergie being on the brink of being ousted from Utd but 1 win that completely changed his season also changed the history of Man Utd. We can't wait forever but I think we can afford Roy a few more games.

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22 Oct 2010 01:01:43
Ed check through your threads la, how has Blair Maine replied on the back of my post, when my post was not posted? If your still unsure I'll send you a timeline of posts! I hope this site is not a f*cking wind up and being used for the politics of a few? {ed's note - he replied after your post was put on the site. The top ones are the latest ones, when the site is updated new posts are placed on top.}

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22 Oct 2010 00:58:11
I remember that post by Lee.
LfordRed

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22 Oct 2010 00:55:27
Ed, whats the deal with carrager being taken off at half time and why is it so significant?

YNWA {ed's note - I really don't know for sure, all I know is it is not an injury, I am trying to find out what happened now. It could very well be just a planned substitution, but why fly Carragher all that way to play the first half only?}

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22 Oct 2010 00:54:19
Ed, Can you explain how there were replies to my post before my post was even posted? REDALLOVER {ed's note - I am confused mate, there weren't any before it was posted, I don't know what you are referring to?}

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22 Oct 2010 00:44:22
Great Posts lads. . Finally some footy talk instead of ownership, however, as I and most of us continue to get depressed, I'm hoping for some light at the end of the tunnel.

I heard that Afellay is intersted in a move. .heard that Turan is interested in a move. .SO WHAT THE HELL ARE WE WAITING FOR?? Don't both of these lads create width? YES. .Does Jovanovic, Babel, Kuyt (by the way I love him as a striker), even Glen "I want to dribble like a brazillian but fumble 80% of the time" Johnson create any width?. .I would rather move Stevie G back to the wing and play Cole and Meireles in the middle of the park!
We need creativity! Something we lack. There are loads of players with that on teams that are not used ie:Bentley, SWP. .or international such as the two mentioned, that are available for less than 15 million quid!

Im glad Anfieldpete has been pushing the Adebayor rumour as he's well worth it. He's like a lightweight Drogba and trust me, African players play with edge, something we lack!

Hope this is not a rumour I heard, but Roy is going and King Kenny MUST be put into the place either temporarily or permantly. If as a Temp, they should work a contract for Martin O'Neil! TALK DONE!

Our defense is horrible. Jamie should be used as bench boss and rid of Sammy Lee!, Rid of Skrtel 8M, Glen Johnson 15M. .Play Martin Kelly in his preferred role as CB and start to use Danny Wilson for goodness sake! We need an upgrade on the left, but Konchesky hasn't been that bad! Buy Brende Hangaland and eventually sell Agger.

Mid field is a mess with Poulson! You tell me that we have been developing our best prospect since Stevie G in Pacheco and he's sparingly used!. .Loan the kid out for goodness sake then! Im always eager to see the boy play, that's why I watch every reserve game, so give this lad "The Killer" a chance! !
Lucas is O.K. at best, but we need a Lassana Diara in that Defensive midfield role when Meireles needs a rest! I've spoken about Wingers and there's four great players I've mentioned in Turan (long rumour), Afellay (new rumour), Bentley and SWP (August Rumours). I always get peeved when I see Bale play as I started a rumour on liverpools main site (who still doesn't have a profile of young Sterling! Stupid editors on that site!) when he was up for sale with Cardiff! Stupid move not to get him Rafa!

In a striker's role there are a slew of players that are mentioned and should be mentioned again!
Aguero, Bryan Ruiz, Adebayor, Keane (bring him back! He was benched after getting hot! Don't know how we sell him without bringing another striker in!), Connor Wickham (LFC Supporter)

Hopefully NESV refurbish Anfield with a 65-70K stadium (might be difficult since we're at 42K)

SIM THE RED
HEY ED. ANY CHANCE OF ANY OF THIS COMING TO FRUITION? {ed's note - right now no one has a clue what will happen or who will come in.}

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22 Oct 2010 00:43:06
One game down another to go before Roy's spell at Anfield is over?

I think everyone of the 'so called' Liverpool supporters on this site who have been calling for the managers head to roll need to start asking themselves some very serious questions.

Last night we seen the 'reserves' put up one of the clubs best performances of a difficult season against Napoli, in an environment many an experienced player has buckled in, and it still draws complaints! Roy takes a gamble in playing an inexperienced side which pays off, they come out with a good result, and still some knobheads can't see the wood for the trees. (Bluenoses in disguise?)

Take the crap being talked about on the so called 'Torres to United' article. Of those who took it as read that Roy was virtually inviting United to come and get him, did you actually take the time to read the full f* *ing arcticle and put it in its true context? No, did you f* *!

The truth is this so called 'rumour' page continues to be riddled with dickheads posting threads that have absolutely nothing to do with rumours. For example having just gone through an entire sale process in which every man and his dog claimed to be in the know, can anyone step forward and claim to have identified the new owners as NESV? I often wonder how many of those submitting 'rumours' threads have actually been to a Reds game, let alone put themselves up as being 'in the know'?

Now the media is supposedly picking up on the fans 'so called' discontentments on Roy via this site, what will this lead to? It will become ridiculed and untrustworthy, just like many on here like to ridicule the other so called fan sites.

Having followed the REDMEN for 40 odd years home and away, my loyalties run deep. And its still my belief that, as in all previous generations, and irrelevant of who the manager is, its the job of the owners and the board to make the decisions that influence what will happen on the park.

Moral of the story? If you can't say anything that's even remotely constructive about the club I love, then f* * o* and go and support the bitter b* tards across the park, or the s* te up the east lancs.

REDALLOVER (WALK ON)
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I'll say somthing constructive "Roy's just not f*cking good enough" the league dosn't lie.

It's not just tonight's game it's all the games he's just to neagitive, tactic's are suspicious, subs are confusing and last but not least his comments are not what LFC fans want to hear.

Just like you we have an opinion hence why we post them on this site just like you did.

Blair (loyal fan for 37 years) Mayne YNWA

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22 Oct 2010 00:41:30
Ed. napoli away is not a testamonial match! . . this is the most telling incident as carra dosnt do half matches. .check his LFC career. . he plays every minute of every game he physically can, this is game over for me. .funny feelin Pelligrini might be our man with his expertise at Villareal working under a tight budget but providing a superb team playing entertaing football. .only a penalty miss against Arsenal by Riquelme away from a possible Champs league final. .and only for being in the same league as potentially the best team in history he would hav added a La Liga title. .

Rijkaard will always have the Voller incident following him and a character trait totally against what we as LFC would expect from our manager, and if u check his barca history are we prepared to give him time (and budget) he got at Barca to get it right when we havnt afforded Roy the same time?

Curious as to what the ed thinks?

Red til Dead! {ed's note - I would prefer Pellegrini myself, he even managed a record points tally with a Real Madrid in disarray. That suggests he is good at handling big egos. I agree totally about Carra, I just can't believe he would agree to only playing the first half, that is so not him.}

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22 Oct 2010 00:36:26
RE: One game down another to go before Roy's spell at Anfield is over?

Mate get real, the press wanted to run a few editorial pieces and used sites like this to support their version of facts. Sold a few papers. This site made money

Roy + Liverpool don't mix. He was never the right man for the job. The board asked Danny Murphy for a recommendation that was stupid of them. The training, tactics have pissed the players off. This is case DAMMED Utd and the players have turned on him because he was never the right man for the job.

The fans are shallow people, they just want to win and don't care how they win or who helps them win. If SAF got results we would have him. The players get alot money and the manager gets alot of money. its a good life style for them.

dont feel sorry for a man who earn more in a week than you could in two years. {ed's note - sorry mate, you are way off the mark, I got nothing from newspapers at all. Certainly didn't get any money off them! I wish.}

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22 Oct 2010 00:27:47
RE: 22 Oct 2010 00:21:03
Is Liverpool going to get a Director of Football soon?

Rest assured mate, there's so many 'pearls of wisdom' subscribing to this site, I'm sure when the vacancy is advertised it will be inundated with applicants!

REDALLOVER

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22 Oct 2010 00:26:07
There is alot of tosh being spoken on this site at the moment but if you look hard enough you can pick out some really good posts. i think a few posters on here (inc the ed of course) make really good points that seem rational and not the ravings of the vast majority who appear to be caught up in what i can only describe as a "mass madness". People need to read the posts and other sources to make their OWN opinion rather than jumping on band wagons without really understanding what it is they are endorsing. this will make for a much richer debate rather than a handfull of lions and a thousand sheep. cartelious has spoken!

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22 Oct 2010 00:21:59
Its pelligrini . . .im telling you FACT! !

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22 Oct 2010 00:21:03
Is Liverpool going to get a Director of Football soon?

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22 Oct 2010 00:15:08
Ed, given the choice, who would you choose out of King Kenny and Rijkaard? ?
I hear its Rijkaard to take over and i would be happy with this appointment although i feel kenny could still do a job!
I would love Rijkaard purely for the players i think he would attract/ sign and the attacking football he would play, but on the otherhand, i think King Kenny would also do a great job. Football aint changed that much and what we need right now is for somebody to have a word with our under achieving players and who better than the king? ?

Gerrard and Torres would love it if Kenny took over too! Saying that, Babel and Kuyt would love the other fella too as they'd probably expect to be the 2 up top. Babel again showed tonight why he aint prem standard when playing against a poor Napoli side. Shows how poor the rest are in Italian football eh? Cash in now! !

Thanks Roy, but we need a King to make our castle conquer!
STUBBEROO {ed's note - I would prefer Rijkaard, I don't want to run the risk of Kenny losing his legendary status.}

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22 Oct 2010 00:08:34
Thanks ed for that. its a living nightmare at the min supporting lfc. there is always something going on. . the board really do have to act quick and fast b4 there is too much damage to the squad. .

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22 Oct 2010 00:08:16
Best thing to do is to get the new manager in by friday. This is because it gives him a couple of training sessions to know what he is working with, who he is working with, show his ideas and style of play. We can't afford to have a team running round like headless chickens on Sunday. Ed do you know who the front runner is for the manager job and what his style of play will be? {ed's note - I don't mate, I have no definite info on that as the players don't know themselves, the club is in as much turmoil as it was during the court case!}

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21 Oct 2010 23:59:09
Roy is staying at least till January. It is our way to give managers a chance. But Roy will have to work very hard for it: he has to start playin Shelvey and Kelly in the first team and he has to ship out Babel, Lucas and Poulsen. Also Jovanovich is good enough to be on the bench. Just honest views.
RHI

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21 Oct 2010 23:55:41
Its bad when u think, noway did carragher go all that way to play 45mins. . this morning he was the 1st teamer who stuck his neck on the line for roy. . this evening he makes a mug of one of our own. .

telling u he is working 4 purple nose is roy. cos all he does is let every1 get one over on us.

ed. my source is stevie g and if roy don't go by sunday i here a transfer request might happen. do u know if this is true. .

not sure how much longer i can take from lfc. wouldn't mind its not panto season yet either. {ed's note - I was told that certain players have been assured that Roy is leaving by NESV. They hate his training, his tactics, his style of management, pretty much everything. But I don't know about any transfer requests, that wasn't mentioned to me, but I really wouldn't be surprised, I can guarantee that there would be a few people handing them in if one does, the club is teetering on the edge right now. It will only take one incident, I have a feeling Carra's half time sub could well be that one.}

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