Liverpool Rumours Archive November 22 2010
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22 Nov 2010 23:57:36
Thierry Henry is going to join Liverpool on loan on a similar deal to what Landon Donovan does with everton in January to keep his match sharpness up. He's in London at the moment, hopefully we'll hear something official soon. He isn't cup tied for Europe and we would be able to wait till the summer to buy a long term striker to partner Torres, because our owners don't believe the January window has real value for money. I think it could be a shrewd bit of business myself!
22 Nov 2010 23:48:30
{ed's note - ok then, so let's not even try like you suggest, that would make it all better, well done all sorted.}
never said they shouldnt try stopping it, , should always try to stop it, , or atleast reduce it but in a way that doesn't put innocent fans in danger or doesn't punish the innocent fans for the behaviour of others, , or punish the club jus cos they have fans who have loose wires in there brains, , , and u can't expect fans to put there lives in danger for name calling, , , u need law enforcement and goverments to do what they r paid for, , , and deal with it, , law enforcement r paid to keep peace and paid to come up with tactics to find and punish the racists in life not innocent citizens
22 Nov 2010 23:44:37
{ed's note - sorry but if you choose to join the Ultras then you accepting that you are one of them.}
you accepting that ur a huge fan of the club yeah, , its like saying the fans who don't do what the ultras do, , but r racist still, , the fans who r not part of the ultras, , who r not racist have to accept there part of the racist fans cos they support a certain team that has racist fans, , u can't say ohh the ultras have racist fans in that group so if ur not racist and ur part of that group u have to accept ur racist or part of a racist group, , cos the none ultra fans have racist fans so does that mean the none racists have to accept they r racist, , so does that mean the none racist fans shouldnt be a fan of there club cos they have racist fans who support the club too {ed's note - Ultras at clubs like Roma are not about supporting the club at all, no more than West Ham's firm are anything to do with support for the club.}
22 Nov 2010 23:37:14
{ed's note - yes that's right, you just sit back and let everyone else do it for you. No wonder the world is in such a state.}
name calling isn't exactly a top priority to put ur life at risk for, , im not in anyway saying its ok for it to happen, , but ppl r big enough to look past a bit of name calling and take it on the chin and say you know what i don't like it but im gunna be the bigger man and show that small minority of fans what im made of and put there team to the sword, , and walk with my head held high, , cos the majority of fans r not calling me names, , they like me and respect me as a player, , , the simple fact is racism will never stop ever, , , violence will never stop, , it happens in every sport and happens in everything we do in life, , peace will never happen in this world {ed's note - ok then, so let's not even try like you suggest, that would make it all better, well done all sorted.}
22 Nov 2010 23:24:40
{ed's note - until all the fans stand up to the idiots it will continue, no point trying to fob it off on the club or UEFA to sort out.}
exactly it won't be stopped, , cos fans shouldnt have to put there lives in danger to stop name calling its down to the law enforcement to come up with a way like i said without punishing innocent fans and clubs and putting there lives in danger {ed's note - yes that's right, you just sit back and let everyone else do it for you. No wonder the world is in such a state.}
22 Nov 2010 23:22:01
{ed's note - are you forgetting that Italian clubs encourage their Ultras with free tickets and travel to matches. They are as much to blame for the violence as anyone.}
again even the ultras have innocent fans, , jus cos they r showing more support than ur usual fan doesn't make them all racist, , and violent, , so again u can't punish them all, , if there is a way of stopping the racism in football without punishing the innocent fans and without punishing the clubs, , and without putting innocent fans in danger and expecting them to put there lives on the line to grass on fans who r doing a bit name calling cos that's alls racism is at the end of the day name calling, , no one should have to put themselves lifes on the line to stop it {ed's note - sorry but if you choose to join the Ultras then you accepting that you are one of them.}
22 Nov 2010 23:17:21
22 Nov 2010 23:05:05
If Johnson is going to Inter why is he learning Spanish?
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I'm learning Spanish, but does it mean I'm going to be playing for a Spanish football team? No.
22 Nov 2010 23:15:27
{ed's note - I am sorry but if the innocent fans are not pointing out the guilty ones to the stewards and the stewards aren't booting them out the ground immediately, then they deserve to be punished too.}
what and face being attacked, , jus cos they r shouting a few names at players, , why should innocent fans have to risk themselves for name calling, , its should be up to the club and uefa to come up with a way of reducing it and stopping it, , a way that don't include punishing innocent fans and clubs, , or putting innocent fans in danger of being attacked because they have grassed on the fans who r being racist {ed's note - until all the fans stand up to the idiots it will continue, no point trying to fob it off on the club or UEFA to sort out.}
22 Nov 2010 23:07:28
{ed's note - there are lots of things that can be done, but UEFA will only punish little clubs in Serbia etc.}
like what can be done to stop racism but without punishing the team and the innocent fans {ed's note - I am sorry but if the innocent fans are not pointing out the guilty ones to the stewards and the stewards aren't booting them out the ground immediately, then they deserve to be punished too.}
22 Nov 2010 23:05:05
If Johnson is going to Inter why is he learning Spanish?
22 Nov 2010 23:04:07
Well said ed! UEFA used us as a scapegoat after Heysel! Fair enough we were partly to blame but we pleaded to them to change the venue! Did Juve fans get punished for hurling rocks and bottles at our supporters? What about the 8 year old kid getting his head kicked in by Italians, was anything done? No! The previous year against Roma we were subject to the same abuse, attacking fans. It happened to Man United not so long back and more recently Napoli! Italian football should pay a big price for what they have done to our beautiful game. Uefa are a joke.
italian football should pay? ?italian clubs sorry don't u mean minority of italian fans, , clubs can't be blamed for how some of there fans brains are wired, , yes its sad what happens and that fans havent been punished but fans in england can be just as bad sometimes, , and some english fans get away with it, , look at the liverpool fan in bulgaria, , , they arrested the wrong guy and then the one who actually did it got away with it, , bulgaria didn't arrest him and the english police didn't step in don't say nothing they coulda done cos there coulda been, , racism won't be stopped nor controlled in football {ed's note - are you forgetting that Italian clubs encourage their Ultras with free tickets and travel to matches. They are as much to blame for the violence as anyone.}
22 Nov 2010 22:56:11
If there was gunna be loop holes and he was gunna be able to do it that way u jus said, , , then there would be no point to the new rule im sure the uefa will find ways to block him spending to much money, , the whole point to the new rule is to stop this spending madness, , and bring the values of players back to earth and back to the way they should be, , and to give even the littlest teams a chance, , if it was gunna be so easy for city to continue the crazy spending then uefa will find away of stopping them {ed's note - oh yes, UEFA are such a well-run, well-respected organ, you are right to have faith in their ability. Just like their crackdown on racism and abuse of players, that is going so well that Italian clubs have consistently escaped punishment for their indiscretions.}
Well said ed! UEFA used us as a scapegoat after Heysel! Fair enough we were partly to blame but we pleaded to them to change the venue! Did Juve fans get punished for hurling rocks and bottles at our supporters? What about the 8 year old kid getting his head kicked in by Italians, was anything done? No! The previous year against Roma we were subject to the same abuse, attacking fans. It happened to Man United not so long back and more recently Napoli! Italian football should pay a big price for what they have done to our beautiful game. Uefa are a joke.
22 Nov 2010 22:51:33
{ed's note - oh yes, UEFA are such a well-run, well-respected organ, you are right to have faith in their ability. Just like their crackdown on racism and abuse of players, that is going so well that Italian clubs have consistently escaped punishment for their indiscretions.}
italian clubs, , , its not the clubs doing the racism its the fans, , the club can't exactly point the finger at one or 2 fans or a group of fans, , and they can't exactly ban every fan from there games all time, , sorry to say but racism is something that can't be stopped i don't like it but its the truth and they say oh halt games if racist chants r made, , but u can't punish the decent people who r not being racist just because a few are being racist, alls they can do is keep trying to find ways of identifying the fans who r being racist and punish them {ed's note - there are lots of things that can be done, but UEFA will only punish little clubs in Serbia etc.}
22 Nov 2010 22:44:41
To the person that replied to me :
"man city won't win title, , or the champions league, , they have threw a whole squad of strangers together, , , players r getting sick of being there already big names too cos there being put on the bench, or not on at all, , , players want out of city theyve realised its not as good as they thought, , and torres wouldn't go to another premier league team if he was to go it would be abroad, , but i think he won't leave he will see liverpool r gunna build a team not do what city have done a mish mashed team we got the foundations, , we got the funds and financial stability, , now lets build the biggest sky scraper of a team one that ppl all round the world will know and will marvel at, "
Players may leave , but they can afford better players as replacements , as far as I know most of the players wanting out were not bought by Mancini.
Roy
22 Nov 2010 22:44:02
Have just heard a rumour from madrid, have a friend there.he 's been told that bemzema is on his way in jan with johnson going the other way + cash.camolli can hopefully pull this one off.what you think ed?he was spot on about xabi joining, and told me about other moves to madrid. {ed's note - it is well known he wants a Spanish move so it is possible, I can't see it though.}
22 Nov 2010 22:35:12
{ed's note - actually he can continue to throw money at it, there will be loopholes found and exploited, you can be sure of that. Plus there are lots of things clubs are allowed to make a loss on, you can also be sure that he will pay for those out of his own pocket in totality to allow the club to keep it's funds for the playing staff.}
if there was gunna be loop holes and he was gunna be able to do it that way u jus said, , , then there would be no point to the new rule im sure the uefa will find ways to block him spending to much money, , the whole point to the new rule is to stop this spending madness, , and bring the values of players back to earth and back to the way they should be, , and to give even the littlest teams a chance, , if it was gunna be so easy for city to continue the crazy spending then uefa will find away of stopping them {ed's note - oh yes, UEFA are such a well-run, well-respected organ, you are right to have faith in their ability. Just like their crackdown on racism and abuse of players, that is going so well that Italian clubs have consistently escaped punishment for their indiscretions.}
22 Nov 2010 22:26:00
According to several news sources we are close to signing Sociedad's young French left winger Antoine Griezmann. His wikipedia says the deal is already done but Liverpool just has not announced it yet (yes I know it is wikipedia).
I hope the reports are true because we need some good young wingers at the club. Ed are you hearing anything?
Anfield Rapstar {ed's note - no mate, I would like it to be true but I think it is more a case of a young French player playing well so we are linked due to Comolli.}
22 Nov 2010 22:25:14
{ed's note - if the shiekh keeps throwing money at them, then, eventually, they will win things.}
lol that's the problem the sheikh can't always throw money when the new rules come in to affect, , they will have to buy with there profits and man city lose money they don't make profit, , , they don't have a huge fan base, , they have players wanting out already, , they will struggle {ed's note - actually he can continue to throw money at it, there will be loopholes found and exploited, you can be sure of that. Plus there are lots of things clubs are allowed to make a loss on, you can also be sure that he will pay for those out of his own pocket in totality to allow the club to keep it's funds for the playing staff.}
22 Nov 2010 22:22:50
The money we get to spend is dependant on how close we are to 4th. Are owners would consider it a calculated risk to spend to get forth due to the possibility of an extra 15mil to get into CL. If too far back I see us spending little and saving for a plunge into the transfer market in the summer.
22 Nov 2010 22:15:52
22 Nov 2010 22:00:29
"Keeping in mind the statements he has made till now, I don't see him joining Man City. . . . .
If cash changes human nature, there is nothing we can say about that. . but if I were ever a player, I would never join Manchester City against the clubs I have stated. . .
Players play only for 10-15 years, so they try to find some meaning out of their career. .this is true for GREAT players like Zidane, Gerrard, Terry, Scholes, Drogba and so on. . .
But when I look at the man City squad, I don't see a single player moving towards GREATNESS. .I just see good average players or very good players but none is GREAT. . .
So lets wait and see where does Torres head?
GREATNESS or CASH
Pritam"
So whats the difference between City and Chelsea . city now is what chelsea was 6 or 7 years ago . . and like it or not they 'city' on the up and only a matter of year or 2 before they are champions . I will even go as far as to say I can see them winning the Champions league before chelsea
Torres want medals and his position as Spain number 1 striker back, city looks the most likely for the next couple of years.
- am not bitter but that's why I wanted a sugar daddy for liverpool , but the romantics amongst you want people that will build properly and sell the best players at their peak.
Roy
man city won't win title, , or the champions league, , they have threw a whole squad of strangers together, , , players r getting sick of being there already big names too cos there being put on the bench, or not on at all, , , players want out of city theyve realised its not as good as they thought, , and torres wouldn't go to another premier league team if he was to go it would be abroad, , but i think he won't leave he will see liverpool r gunna build a team not do what city have done a mish mashed team we got the foundations, , we got the funds and financial stability, , now lets build the biggest sky scraper of a team one that ppl all round the world will know and will marvel at, , what u reckon ED {ed's note - if the shiekh keeps throwing money at them, then, eventually, they will win things.}
22 Nov 2010 22:08:21
I see Chelsea have cooled their interest in Neymar. Liverpool should get him - do you rate him ed? {ed's note - he is a very good player, but I don't think he offers good value for money.}
22 Nov 2010 22:00:29
"Keeping in mind the statements he has made till now, I don't see him joining Man City. . . . .
If cash changes human nature, there is nothing we can say about that. . but if I were ever a player, I would never join Manchester City against the clubs I have stated. . .
Players play only for 10-15 years, so they try to find some meaning out of their career. .this is true for GREAT players like Zidane, Gerrard, Terry, Scholes, Drogba and so on. . .
But when I look at the man City squad, I don't see a single player moving towards GREATNESS. .I just see good average players or very good players but none is GREAT. . .
So lets wait and see where does Torres head?
GREATNESS or CASH
Pritam"
So whats the difference between City and Chelsea . city now is what chelsea was 6 or 7 years ago . . and like it or not they 'city' on the up and only a matter of year or 2 before they are champions . I will even go as far as to say I can see them winning the Champions league before chelsea
Torres want medals and his position as Spain number 1 striker back, city looks the most likely for the next couple of years.
- am not bitter but that's why I wanted a sugar daddy for liverpool , but the romantics amongst you want people that will build properly and sell the best players at their peak.
Roy
22 Nov 2010 21:58:40
Centre half merry go round may well take off in january?
TURNER sun 2 liverpool?
CAHILL bolt 2 arsenal?
JAGIELKA eve 2 spurs?
BASSONG spu 2 everton?
UPSON whu 2 bolton?
WHEATER boro 2 sunderland
22 Nov 2010 21:51:38
Something that may well interest you pool fans? got a txt followed by a call telling me of liverpool scouts in germany watching mainz' allagui (spell), reus from bor g'bach and sidney samm from leverkuson! only one from samm and reus as they both play in the same position both fast and can travel with the ball! & both under 21's what do you think? ed? {ed's note - there are a lot of good, young German players around at the moment, it makes sense to take a look. But I wouldn't read too much into it yet, the club is looking at hundreds of prospective targets right now, though I really wouldn't be surprised if they end up on the final shortlist for Jan.}
22 Nov 2010 21:44:32
BTW just seen that in terms of marketing, we are less than 5m behind Manure last year. Believe lads, believe! !
Also, I forgot to mention. Any player that is approached by NESV or Comolli will have it put to them that not only will they be playing for one of the world's top 6 clubs, but they will be sharing the proceeds from what a genuine world leader in marketing can do for their image. So if any player is motivated by cash, NESV will be a mile in front.
22 Nov 2010 21:43:24
22 Nov 2010 21:34:48
To the guy or gal who replied to my post about Johnson.
I didn't say we should sell at all, i was merely pointing out why we shouldn't expect to get £18M. I think a lot of fans will actually say he's worth jack but that's their opinion.
Apparently one of Johnson's 235 strong entourage was outraged by Hodgson's comments and used the media to flame player unrest.
Personally if he doesn't want to commit to LFC get rid and get as much as possible for him. I still think he's got a good future at the club, but he came to the club with plenty of baggage from his Chelsea days (white stuff and all that. . .allegedly. . ) so we really shouldn't be all that surprised at some of the rumours doing the rounds about him.
Bob the Red {ed's note - like I keep saying - he spent far too much time around the Terry family in his youth!}
i hope we don't sell him, , i would like to see him on the right wing, , with kelly as right back, , his whole career every manager plays him rb, , i mean come on r they blind hes good forward but defending hes awful lol
22 Nov 2010 21:40:21
ED I REMEMBER JUST AFTER TORRES ARRIVED WITH US HE SAID ONE DAY HE WANTED TO PLAY IN ITALY FOR AC MILAN SO THIS IS MORE LIKLEY {ed's note - yes he did, but that was in different times, aren't Milan a bit strapped for cash these days?}
22 Nov 2010 21:34:48
To the guy or gal who replied to my post about Johnson.
I didn't say we should sell at all, i was merely pointing out why we shouldn't expect to get £18M. I think a lot of fans will actually say he's worth jack but that's their opinion.
Apparently one of Johnson's 235 strong entourage was outraged by Hodgson's comments and used the media to flame player unrest.
Personally if he doesn't want to commit to LFC get rid and get as much as possible for him. I still think he's got a good future at the club, but he came to the club with plenty of baggage from his Chelsea days (white stuff and all that. . .allegedly. . ) so we really shouldn't be all that surprised at some of the rumours doing the rounds about him.
Bob the Red {ed's note - like I keep saying - he spent far too much time around the Terry family in his youth!}
22 Nov 2010 21:33:56
Ed, I think I'm Reading to much into it but next Monday LFC NOW which only useally lasts 15 mins lasts 2 hours {ed's note - I doubt it means anything mate.}
22 Nov 2010 21:23:36
Been reading your comments about Torres today. If you were betting men, would you have a punt on Torres staying or going in the summer? {ed's note - if I was betting on it, I would put my money on stay, purely because the team he would really want can't afford him (Barca).}
The reason he left spain was Barca. He said it hurt him deeply when Barcelona smashed Atletico. Only team he would go to is Atletico madrid or German team. .
22 Nov 2010 21:09:19
Ed / Macca
Been reading your comments about Torres today. If you were betting men, would you have a punt on Torres staying or going in the summer? {ed's note - if I was betting on it, I would put my money on stay, purely because the team he would really want can't afford him (Barca).}
22 Nov 2010 21:07:45
Fernando lorrenta 63 million euros and mata for 30 also nilmar for 15 good buy epcet from lorrenta
22 Nov 2010 21:06:18
I agree 100%. I remember a few years ago, a Japanese film crew turned up at a nothing arsenal match because they had that ginger japanese guy on the bench. Japan is absolutely mad for Premier league. NESV are smart smart guys lads. I was really depressed after the Blackpool game, but now I am really starting to get excited. .Forget Hodgson, forget this season even. .we have to take the long view. CL would be great this season, but I would spunk CL and the league for 3 seasons for building a dynasty that will last a generation. NESV were so good at generating income from Redsocks, they were contracted by Baseball to do it for the whole game in the US. They are in it for the pay per view age, the individual fan paying for a match on his iphone/ iPad, the real age of money is about to begin. BTW just seen that in terms of marketing, we are less than 5m behind Manure last year. Believe lads, believe! !
AT LEAST SOMEONE WHO IS POSITIVE, AND HAS FORESIGHT. . .THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT. . BELEIVE IT. . UPWARDS AND ONWARDS
Rednose
22 Nov 2010 20:53:40
Ed do have anything from your source that can just give us a little insight that we actually interested in people. I've been told from a mate who works for wembley through the FA said were looking at french players but doesn't no who cos there all tight lipped. He told me about joe cole coming to us even when liverpool didn't look like we were in the running so he does get the odd little bit of gossip now and again. just wanted to no if you have heard anything from what's on the scout list? {ed's note - I haven't heard a thing, it has been tightened up considerably since the takeover. That is a great thing for the club but it sucks for the site!}
22 Nov 2010 20:52:13
"So signing Honda would be massive for us."
I agree 100%. I remember a few years ago, a Japanese film crew turned up at a nothing arsenal match because they had that ginger japanese guy on the bench. Japan is absolutely mad for Premier league. NESV are smart smart guys lads. I was really depressed after the Blackpool game, but now I am really starting to get excited. .Forget Hodgson, forget this season even. .we have to take the long view. CL would be great this season, but I would spunk CL and the league for 3 seasons for building a dynasty that will last a generation. NESV were so good at generating income from Redsocks, they were contracted by Baseball to do it for the whole game in the US. They are in it for the pay per view age, the individual fan paying for a match on his iphone/ iPad, the real age of money is about to begin. BTW just seen that in terms of marketing, we are less than 5m behind Manure last year. Believe lads, believe! !
22 Nov 2010 20:44:22
Just a thought , what do you think of Jose Enrique(spelling) , the left back at Newcastle? He looks a good player , better than our current left backs! What do you think ed?
TheRedReason {ed's note - he is ok, but no real improvement on our current ones in my opinion. I just don't see the need to buy a player who is slightly better, may as well let Mavinga have a shot and put the money towards buying one top class player.}
22 Nov 2010 20:21:39
HONDA! ! IF WE COULD GET ONEE PLAYER it'd be HIM HES SO GOOD! can shoot score pass cross defend fast focused ( japanese ) bloody brilliant lad !
Not bad looking too something we need our players are rough atm konch is gross fabs is alright raul needs him hair back stevie is lush {ed's note - is that what it is going to come down to? Us buying the best looking players? If so I best get me boots out. . . .}
ha nice one ed but seriously you gotta agree our players are gross? {ed's note - I can't say I take much notice of that sorry, I am only bothered about how well they play. Though you may have a point, perhaps our bad form is down to all the mirrors getting broken after training when Skrtel uses them?}
22 Nov 2010 20:16:57
Ed, do you think santi carzola would be any good for us {ed's note - probably, not sure he is of the level required for us though.}
22 Nov 2010 20:13:17
Ed do u agree with me that any buys in Jan will be youth and the only possible signing of a major name will be Honda
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Hodgson has said he will be looking to improve the team and apparantly we've had Camolli and scouts attending games on the continent.
In all honesty, I don't think we'll see an overhaul of the squad, but I think we'll sign one or two players, provided they are value for money and provided they will genuinly improve the Liverpool team.
Would Carlton Cole or Shaun Wright-Phillips improve our team? Certainly not. So Camolli will make sure they won't come in.
22 Nov 2010 20:11:24
HONDA! ! ! IF WE COULD GET ONEE PLAYER it'd be HIM HES SO GOOD! can shoot score pass cross defend fast focused ( japanese ) bloody brilliant lad !
Not bad looking too something we need our players are rough atm konch is gross fabs is alright raul needs him hair back stevie is lush {ed's note - is that what it is going to come down to? Us buying the best looking players? If so I best get me boots out.......}
22 Nov 2010 20:08:42
Heard today very good source Rafa will be searching for anew job in England during the Italian xmas break
22 Nov 2010 20:06:08
Hi Ed, heard a rumour about Liverpool taking Benzema & Kaka on loan in Jan? Do you think its likely or just wishfull thinking? Also who does Sanchez play for? Heard his name mentioned a few times. Cheers mate
Banjo boy {ed's note - very wishful thinking mate. Sanchez plays for Udinese and Chile mate.}
22 Nov 2010 19:57:46
Ed do u agree with me that any buys in Jan will be youth and the only possible signing of a major name will be Honda
Redman {ed's note - hard to know mate, but I certainly don't expect much to happen in January.}
22 Nov 2010 19:16:17
Pritam
You forgot the most probable and likely destination for Torres this summer (if he is to leave), its in england and in manchester but not united.
Roy
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Keeping in mind the statements he has made till now, I don't see him joining Man City. . . . .
If cash changes human nature, there is nothing we can say about that. . but if I were ever a player, I would never join Manchester City against the clubs I have stated. . .
Players play only for 10-15 years, so they try to find some meaning out of their career. .this is true for GREAT players like Zidane, Gerrard, Terry, Scholes, Drogba and so on. . .
But when I look at the man City squad, I don't see a single player moving towards GREATNESS. .I just see good average players or very good players but none is GREAT. . .
So lets wait and see where does Torres head?
GREATNESS or CASH
Pritam
22 Nov 2010 19:09:56
Three players we've been linked with in the January transfer window: Payet, Honda and Griezmann.
Apparantly Payet has a price tag of £8m, Honda £10m and Griezmann £7. So if we matched these tags and spent £25m on the three of them, does anyone not think that is £25m very well spent?
I see no reason why this trio couldn't be signed. But maybe its wishful thinking on my part.
22 Nov 2010 19:08:00
N.E.S.V. will not be splashing the cash in january to buy big name players they will be buying youth and starting the rebuilding in the summer targets for january youth will be.
Swiss sensation Xherdan Shaqiri,
18 year old Shaqiri's stock rose considerably after he scored a stunning goal for Switzerland in their 3-1 Euro 2012 qualification defeat against England in September.
The Basel winger has since been linked with £2 million January move to Anfield,
connor wickham the ipswich striker is seen as the next big thing.
adam barton. preston midfielder has been watched a number of times this year.
romanu lukaka this guy is awsome and liverpools number one target.
22 Nov 2010 18:29:39
I have been told recently that Isaac Vorsah will be coming in the summer, on a free and will be signing pre-contract in January.He is a big lad, who can play as holding Midfielder or centre half.Hope Roy as gone by then, as he will be played up front. I don't Know much about him other than he is a Ghana international.The guy who told me at the match on Saturday Told me about Skrtle a few months before we signed him.
{Editor's Note: He is contracted to TSG 1899 Hoffenheim until June 2014 so will not be signing a pre-contract or arriving on a free transfer in the summer.}
22 Nov 2010 17:44:07
Just to go off topic a bit, has anyone heard anything new concerning the new stadium? Ed? {ed's note - no mate, nothing yet, but I wouldn't expect that to even be under consideration until the board is sorted.}
22 Nov 2010 17:35:47
Why are we being linked with elmander, his first season he couldn score a goal now that he scored a couple were being linked get real.
would u agree ed. {ed's note - yes mate, I don't think he is anything like good enough for us.}
22 Nov 2010 16:59:34
Editor's Note: Although Torres gave RH his backing last week in an interview given in Spain.
I believe he will stay till the end of season unless we have a massive change in form etc.
What i will say ed is that he is not getting involved with things he should be at the club and that's a 100% fact.
What i was told was it is difficult to play with a player who is not interested. .
Macca
22 Nov 2010 16:59:12
Ed, say we miss out on the top 4 this season, but Roy Hodgson isn't manager, what players do you reckon are likely to leave?
Or say we miss out on the top 4, but Roy is kept as manager, what players will leave then? {ed's note - no one can know that mate, it is impossible to tell at this moment in time.}
22 Nov 2010 16:53:12
Johan Elmander
yes = belivable
no=unbelivable
22 Nov 2010 16:42:47
Macca {ed's note - I have been told it is split, that a number are getting behind him until the end of the season but a large proportion are certainly not behind him. I think it would depend on which side your first team player is on as to which view they give.}
Hi ed, i think you are right with regards to it at the club, depending on who you speak to at the club.
One thing i can guarantee is that Torres is definately distancing himself from the rest of the squad.
Macca
{Editor's Note: Although Torres gave RH his backing last week in an interview given in Spain.}
22 Nov 2010 16:26:17
Hearing that Rafa wants to sign Johnson and Agger.
Lets start with Agger. AC Milan came in for Agger in 2008 was it? And Benitez valued him at £15m. So I'd imagine Rafa would have absolutly no problem paying that amount for Agger, if not more.
As for Johnson, well Rafa rated him so highly that he paid £18m for him, so if he still rates him as highly, he'll pay the same again for Johnson. If not, then he knows where to go.
All in all, lets ask for £33m for the two, simply based on Rafa's own personal valuation and high ratings of the players. If they don't want to pay, then they can h*ck off. Or offer us a swap deal. I like the look of Santon,
{Editor's Note: Benitez does not control transfers or transfer negotiations at Inter. Whatever he valued the players at in the past has no bearing on what Inter may off now.}
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I think now that we are debt free, we should not be under any pressure to sell our assets for figures not acceptable to us. . . .
The first signal that owners should send to the other clubs should be that we are no longer a SELLING club as opposed to the last few seasons. . . .
We should stand by our valuations and not let any player out on the cheap. . .
Pritam
22 Nov 2010 16:16:52
Hearing that Rafa wants to sign Johnson and Agger.
Lets start with Agger. AC Milan came in for Agger in 2008 was it? And Benitez valued him at £15m. So I'd imagine Rafa would have absolutly no problem paying that amount for Agger, if not more.
As for Johnson, well Rafa rated him so highly that he paid £18m for him, so if he still rates him as highly, he'll pay the same again for Johnson. If not, then he knows where to go.
All in all, lets ask for £33m for the two, simply based on Rafa's own personal valuation and high ratings of the players. If they don't want to pay, then they can h*ck off. Or offer us a swap deal. I like the look of Santon,
{Editor's Note: Benitez does not control transfers or transfer negotiations at Inter. Whatever he valued the players at in the past has no bearing on what Inter may off now.}
22 Nov 2010 15:39:39
{ed's note - what I was told is that the target is just to get into the Champions League for this season and then they will look to invest in the close season. But they don't seem to be looking at 4/ 5 years before challenging, the target is next season, though that maybe just what they said to Stevie to keep him onside. . }
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MUSHROOM
22 Nov 2010 15:33:01
Strong rumours coming out of bolton is that liverpool chief scout eduardo macia had a meeting with a board member about the signing of johan elmander in january i think he would be an excellent signing and also roy loves a scandanavian
he doesn't love daniel agger
22 Nov 2010 15:17:06
Strong rumours coming out of bolton is that liverpool chief scout eduardo macia had a meeting with a board member about the signing of johan elmander in january i think he would be an excellent signing and also roy loves a scandanavian
22 Nov 2010 15:16:32
Ed, will probably get lambasted by your fellow reds? i would hazard a guess that 90% of w hat i give you from my informers is true? but what have to say regatdless reports in papers! honda is 100% arsenal bound! now im more spurs than anyone and think he's (honda) is a top player and would have loved harry to trade in his bentley for a honda! and it pains me to say where he's going, i would rather it your team than wengers, said a couple of weeks ago regarding benzema to spurs! you thought it would have been done in the summer (past) but it has arisen in todays mail! i think it will happen but im told honda to arsenal is more nailed on . . . sorry ed
{Editor's Note: There is no need to apologise.}
22 Nov 2010 15:10:15
Can confirm that our head scout eduardo macia was at ajax vs psv at the weekend running a last eye over ola toivonen and ajax full back vurnon anita who have both been out standing in league this year i just feel gutted it was'nt afellay who i think is gonna be the buy of the year for barcelona 4.5million my god the man must easily be worth 15million if only liverpool made there move earlier like 2 seasons ago while we were in chps league
22 Nov 2010 15:07:21
22 Nov 2010 11:08:51
RAFA has been in contact with LIVERPOOL over AGGER and JOHNSON and is willing to pay £25M to get his men.
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RAFA - £30M - NOT A PENNY LESS.
22 Nov 2010 14:37:15
HI ED our scout jakob fiis-hansen has confirmed the club are interested in buying either oscar wendt or behrang safari just confirms what i said the other day that we would get either of these and let me think where roy managed before switzerland and denmark hmmmm curious loves a scandanavian
22 Nov 2010 14:34:34
*RED ALERT*liverpool have been strongly linked with emre belozoglu according to reports in germanys 4-4-2 he will be involved in a swap deal which will see us get emre and 6million and fenebahce will get babel
22 Nov 2010 14:01:51
Transfer reports have surfaced that Premier League giants Liverpool are making a serious move for CSKA Moscow star Keisuke Honda.
It has been revealed that Liverpool's new sporting director Damien Comolli is keen for the club to take 24 year old attacking midfielder to Anfield in January.
According to Russian sources, a bid of around £9m should be enough to prize Honda away from Moscow.
IHowever, it is said that Italian giants AC Milan could launch a counter-offer as they are also keen on securing the services of the Japan international.
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I've copy pasted this from a website, and it was posted on 10th November.
£9m would be good business for us. He can play as an attacking midfielder, a striker, a winger if needbe and I did some research and he can even play in the holding role. He's so versatile.
Surprisingly, I've seen some Liverpool fans question his £9m fee. In all honesty, we've spent more or pretty much the same on players who don't match this guy's ability.
He was courted in the Summer by many clubs after a great World Cup and I was shocked that he was never signed, so lets get him!
I wonder how much of the £9m we'd make back commercially in Japan/ Asia? Ed, you think we'd make a few mill back? {ed's note - he is the best player available right now, his cost would be pretty much free and he can play just about anywhere (you forgot to mention his ability to play as a top class left back!). He would be worth every single penny and far more to us, in my opinion.}
22 Nov 2010 13:48:09
Liverpool ins
benzema £18 million
honda £10 million
insua back off loan
lassana diarra £8 million
out
jova £4 million
agger £12 million
babel £ 6million
22 Nov 2010 13:29:21
Just putting this out there to get a few opinions. . as the next manager, what are your thoughts on Johan Cruyff? Spectacular player, Good coach and the force behind what is today known as 'total football'. he would give a different dimension to the squad, allowing players not only to play in their preffered positions but also the freedom to move in and around.
He would also be able to attract top flight players from sides like Ajax after being one of their most celebrated players/ manager.
Ed, any thoughts? {ed's note - may as well go for Kenny as Cruyff, he has also been out of management for years and would have his own ideas, which probably wouldn't tally up with NESV/Fenway Sports' views.}
22 Nov 2010 13:23:33
Come in #7 HONDA
22 Nov 2010 13:22:03
Ed you know the owners have said they intention is long term, does that mean were to give any hope for compitionfor title for the next 3/ 4 years? The reason why I ask this is the statement Stevie g came out with after his meeting with owners saying he is thinking of quick fix because of his age, have they said to him not to even think about the league coming to Liverpool in his playing days. As they said they want young players in to build for the future, to me that says me that they want to build a winning team from scratch and will take 4/ 5 years for the young to gain experience and compete. {ed's note - what I was told is that the target is just to get into the Champions League for this season and then they will look to invest in the close season. But they don't seem to be looking at 4/5 years before challenging, the target is next season, though that maybe just what they said to Stevie to keep him onside....}
22 Nov 2010 13:19:39
Quick response to macca:
Interesting read as usual, just an aside tho, the ressie player that i know is of a different opinion to the info you have. Torres has missed a bonding session, through injury and not through choice, he has attended the other sessions.
With regards to the the "players being 100% behind roy", that really isn't the case. Roy has very few supporters left on the playing side, carra being one of a small number, gerrard only wants continued stability until the summer and the majority of the players are totally dismayed at the training methods and tactics (especially away).
I don't have any rumours of player transfers or anything, but the senior players have been given assurances of "decent" investment over the next couple of transfer windows!
Roger over and out
Hi Mate,
With regards the transfer policy i was told they will buy players to get us into the Champions league then when we become established again they will buy real world class players.
With regards Torres i was told he is just not interested, this was by a senior member of the first team squad.
He also told me the players where behind Roy.
I think that they believe there is nobody else available to replace him and that we need a bit of stability at the moment.
Macca {ed's note - I have been told it is split, that a number are getting behind him until the end of the season but a large proportion are certainly not behind him. I think it would depend on which side your first team player is on as to which view they give.}
22 Nov 2010 13:11:07
Look guys we all know Roys not the man for the job and i'm sure NESV know that too! But for now we're stuck with him so can we not just support our beloved team? If NESV are for real then we will be a major force again but there is no quick fix to problems that go all the way back to Souness! Please have faith guys WE ARE LIVERPOOL FC
Personally I would like to see three signings in jan:
Elia, Ruiz & crouch or Llorente
Belive to agree
Banjo boy
22 Nov 2010 13:10:47
PIENAAR to force a move in JAN £2M
22 Nov 2010 13:09:54
Roy Hodgson could be about to risk the wrath of Liverpool fans and pursue Fulham's Simon Davies in the January transfer window. As reported on sportingo website.
Please let it not be true!
Muzmacol YNWA
22 Nov 2010 12:54:13
We have absolutely NO chance of signing Hazard EVER! We all know the superb history of Liverpool and the Worldwide following but the club can never attract the best players. Man U offer the glamour, Man C and Chelsea offer the cash, and Arsenal and Spurs offer life in the big city. Also Hazard is playing out of his skin and his team are top of the league so there is no way that he will sign for Liverpool. In the past we have tried to sign the best players - usually before the above-mentioned clubs have even spotted them. We have somehow got to change the image. Anyway - one bit of good news - we have Suso for at least the next three years - Let's hope that he has his chance in the First Team before that time is up!
Mal 34
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The club can never attract the best players? I know why, because we never go in for the best players because we've never had the financial muscle to! "In the past we've tried to sign the best players" - what players exactly? I actually don't remember us going in for a world class player in many years mate. Were we in for Rooney? Essien? Kaka? Villa? Ozil?
Didn't we sign Xabi Alonso despite interest from Real Madrid? Didn't we sign Mascherano despite interest from Barcelona? Didn't we sign Torres despite interest from a host of clubs? Didn't Joe Cole choose us over other top clubs? Weren't Chelsea showing interest in Kuyt when we signed him? Didn't Pepe Reina choose us over other top teams? Didn't Ryan Babel choose us despite interest from Arsenal? I do recall Lucas saying Inter Milan were interested in him before he came to Liverpool, yet he chose us? Did Jovanovic not decide to sign for us despite interest from Inter? And before he signed Valencia were sniffing! Didn't Johnson decide to sign for us, rather than re-sign for Chelsea? Did Fabio Aurelio not choose us despite the Real Madrid president saying he'd be more than welcome to join the club?
Maybe most of these players aren't the best, but they came to us and we had a hell of a lot of competition from top clubs for their signatures.
And when you say that Chelsea and City have the money and see that as a big advantage over us, well if a player joins a club for money then we don't bloody want them at our club! LOL and "Man U offer glamour".
We have plenty to offer buddy, and like you saud, massive fanbase, big history which makes us one of the biggest clubs in the world. And now with new owners, we have big ambitions again. The difference between Liverpool and the rest is that they offer Champions League football, and if we get back into the CL soon, we'll offer as much as any club.
22 Nov 2010 12:44:58
Expect Roy to have a £25m war chest in January, but with him wanting around 6 quality players (by the way, we're talking about MID-TABLE quality players remember) he's also looking to sell.
Outs will see Dan Agger go. Roy unhappy with the Dane after he criticised his tactics (aka long ball). Inter want him after their injury to Walter Samuel. £8-10m.
Ryan Babel has once again proven he's a flop and will go. He's highly rated in parts, Ajax are tracking their former star and apparently are willing to pay £8m!
These 2 are definites. There are around 3 other players whose names are down as "possible departees". Glen Johnson, Fabio Aurelio and Dirk Kuyt are these, Inter having an interest in GJ and DK.
Who I'd like to see us in for areL
Luis Suarez - With Ajax trailing Babel why not go for a P/ Ex? £15m plus Babel seems worthwhile.
Yann M'Vila - Already has France caps and is young. Would cost £10m but would be a bargain.
Matty Taylor - You guys may call me crazy, but he's a natural left footer than gets up the field and sticks to the wing, he'd also cost around £6m. Good business!
Dimitri Payet - Has worked with Comolli, he's young, plays of the left wing but can play up front but he's right footed. Still, get him for around £8m.
Phillippe Mexes - Will happily leave Roma, who are also in a bit of financial bother. Get him for around £10m.
Unfortunately I am not the manager, so expect us to sign:
Oscar Wendt - £4m
Matthew Upson - £7m
Carlton Cole - £10m
David Bentley - £8m
Valter Birsa - £6m
Yep, mid-table mediocrity is a thing of the future with this load of crap in charge! Our team:
Reina / Gulacsi - Jones to go on loan, big mistake!
Konchesky / Wendt
Carragher / Kelly
Skrtel / Upson
Kyrgiakos / Wilson
Meireles / Poulsen
Gerrard / Lucas
Maxi / Jovanovic
Kuyt / Bentley
Cole / Birsa
Torres / Cole
Not exactly a team to be proud of. Expect Reina and Torres to leave in the summer if Hodgson is still here. The team are currently behind him, but after finishing 8th or whatever, outside the European spots, and Hodgson still in charge after another shout of "We are in need of a major re-vamp, despite me bringing in a new squad" They'll want to play in Europe. Bad Times are looming around Anfield currently.
Bob Dylan ;)
22 Nov 2010 12:32:58
{ed's note - wide players, we are desperate for them.}
I agree Ed but we were desperate for them in the summer and ended up with 4 CM's.
MUSHROOM {ed's note - very true, but Comolli is in charge of transfers now.}
22 Nov 2010 12:30:30
Looks like Carlo Ancelotti will be liverpool manager by January. Its all done deal. But Chelsea refuse to let go Carlo after they got to know he coming to Liverpool. Lets wait n see. . Roy's days are numbering.
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What planet are you on?
MUSHROOM
22 Nov 2010 12:25:20
Ancelotti next manager at anfield watch this space.
22 Nov 2010 12:24:46
Agger is never fit johnson was never worth the £18m rafa payed for him
£25m is all we will see for them
22 Nov 2010 12:06:52
Hodgson to bid for Simon Davies from Fulham in january.
22 Nov 2010 11:53:46
We need to sign Eden Hazard and a striker in jan.
We have absolutely NO chance of signing Hazard EVER! We all know the superb history of Liverpool and the Worldwide following but the club can never attract the best players. Man U offer the glamour, Man C and Chelsea offer the cash, and Arsenal and Spurs offer life in the big city. Also Hazard is playing out of his skin and his team are top of the league so there is no way that he will sign for Liverpool. In the past we have tried to sign the best players - usually before the above-mentioned clubs have even spotted them. We have somehow got to change the image. Anyway - one bit of good news - we have Suso for at least the next three years - Let's hope that he has his chance in the First Team before that time is up!
Mal 34
22 Nov 2010 11:43:19
I'm of the understanding that Roy Hodgson will have £25m, plus whatever is made in sales to improve the squad to a level to attain Champions League football next season. If achieved he will stay, if Liverpool in Europa or not in Europe, he will be on his way.
Hodgson wants another left back with Oscar Wendt being heavily linked. I personally don't see why we need another average left back with Konchesky being solid if inspectacular, Aurelio returning to fitness and Danny Wilson able to play there.
A striker is his next priority, we have been linked with Lisandro Lopez, Oscar Cardozo, Carlton Cole, Karim Benzema, Lucas Barrios, Adam Szalai and almost every other striker in the world. A striker who has consistently scored goals is a must - for me the target should be Lisandro Lopez so expect Carlton Cole to sign.
A holding midfielder is next on the list with Blaise Matoudi, Steven Defour and Yann M'Vila most recently linked. At present we don't have a high quality one, with Lucas being a box to box midfielfer playing out of position, Poulsen has been poor but his last performance was encouraging (although against v.poor opposition in West Ham) and Spearing being too inexperienced. If one was to come in, I would move Spearing out on loan again - he has looked a much better player for his experience at Leicester - and another consisent run of 1st team football would do him wonders, maybe with a view to replacing Poulsen next summer. (Thoughts ed.?) {ed's note - I agree Spearing needs regular games, a loan move might help him. Though I have to say I never thought he had a chance of making it now, but having seen Poulsen play I am now of the opinion that if Poulsen is good enough to pay money for then Spearing has every chance!}
22 Nov 2010 11:23:15
Hey Ed, just read that Suso has signed a pro contract with us until 2013. Fantastic news as I truly believe this kid can be huge for us in a couple of years time.
22 Nov 2010 11:08:51
RAFA has been in contact with LIVERPOOL over AGGER and JOHNSON and is willing to pay £25M to get his men.
22 Nov 2010 11:08:50
A couple of players will be on their way from of Anfield in this transfer window.
Ryan Babel - think its best for all concerned he moves on. From Roy's point of view - he is a underperforming, 60k/ pw squad player who isn't going to get playing time. Ryan has stagnated as a footballer and really needs a change to fulfill some of his potential. Liverpool looking for between £5-8m for the player
Charles Itandje - will never play for Liverpool again, out of contract at the end of the season.
Milan Jovanovic - hasn't settled into Premiership football at all. Reminds me of Milan Baros - head down, go fast, do nothing. With Kuyt, Cole, Maxi, Meireles and Shelvey all preferred over him in the wide positions - doesn't look like he'll get much playing time. Will either leave on loan or for around £5m
22 Nov 2010 11:04:16
The squad isn't bad at all :) and we DO have a left sided player Jova is pretty decent he hasn't been given a chance at all really upsets me if we played jova I reckon we'd do alright seriously play him instead of maxi oh and joe cole shouldn't just walk back into the team he's been crap. . He's slow and past it don't play him were better without him seriously he sucks. Give amoo a chance Kelly at rb and Johnson at wing!
BEl for jova
unbel for someone else
what are your views on joe cole guys? Kop flop or unlucky start?
22 Nov 2010 10:59:58
Liverpool right-back Glen Johnson has told friends he expects to join European champions Inter Milan in January. (Lets hope Rafa stays at Inter, he might be willing to pay an overinflated price for this donkey)
22 Nov 2010 10:53:19
Realistically I can only see Liverpool signing one player, that being Keisuke Honda! Liverpool have planned a tour to the Far East for the summmer - and who better to put on the all the promotional material than the best player in Asia. From a business point of view (owners perspective) he would almost pay for himself in terms of the commercial revenue we would gain signing him. From a football perspective - you could put him anywhere in our side and there would be a vast improvement on paper. On the right wing/ left wing or playing off Torres we would look far more dangerous, and would allow our best players to play in their preferred position. Add to that his deadball expertise, he would be a fantastic signing.
22 Nov 2010 10:51:23
Ed Macca?
Is it 100% defo Torres is leavin summer?
{Editor's Note: No.}
All i know is that when the club arrange bonding sessions and other activities he doesn't even go, a couple of the players think he will leave. Again he may stay but i am not sure.
Also the players are 100% behind Roy.
Dont shoot the messenger.
Macca
22 Nov 2010 10:46:06
JOHNSON & AGGER OFF TO INTER IN JAN 100%
22 Nov 2010 07:54:08
Ed, what are your views on Ever Banega. . is he a player we coulddo with. . he is young, very talented and. . . unsettled at Valencia. {ed's note - he is top class, there is no doubt he would improve the team. Not sure he would be a priority player to sign though, but I would love to see him play for us.}
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my views exactly. . so why do our scouts always find the wrong players when players like banega are so glaringly obvious to everyone else. {ed's note - that is a good question, but I don't know the answer, sorry.}
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same applies to Arda Turan. a glaringly obvious good player that has allegedly said he wants to play for Liverpool yet we still don't make a move for him!
{Editor's Note: Arda is a very good player but a move to England seems out of the question until at least the end of the season. Spurs offered Giovanni Dos Santos plus cash in the summer and the rejection of that offer was seen as a statement of intent for Gala to keep the player. He is also now club captain - adding to the bonds to keep him in Turkey. I do agree that he would be a great buy if it were possible.}
22 Nov 2010 07:49:08
Looks like Carlo Ancelotti will be liverpool manager by January. Its all done deal. But Chelsea refuse to let go Carlo after they got to know he coming to Liverpool. Lets wait n see. . Roy's days are numbering.
22 Nov 2010 07:00:07
IN
GOMEZ £18M done deal
DANN or CAHILL
AYALA back from HULL
BENTLEY on loan
OUT
BABEL
AGGER
JOVA loan
22 Nov 2010 02:38:25
Comolli look set to raid Ligue 1 in January with; Taye Taiwo, Yann M'Vila, Blaise Matuidi & Eden Hazard all being watched.
22 Nov 2010 02:26:01
Yann M'Vila & Eden Hazard have both got Comolli's attention atm.
22 Nov 2010 00:14:46
Ed, what are your views on Ever Banega. . is he a player we coulddo with. . he is young, very talented and. . . unsettled at Valencia. {ed's note - he is top class, there is no doubt he would improve the team. Not sure he would be a priority player to sign though, but I would love to see him play for us.}
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What position is our priority to fill at the moment? {ed's note - wide players, we are desperate for them.}
22 Nov 2010 00:07:52
Ed, what are your views on Ever Banega. . is he a player we coulddo with. . he is young, very talented and. . . unsettled at Valencia. {ed's note - he is top class, there is no doubt he would improve the team. Not sure he would be a priority player to sign though, but I would love to see him play for us.}
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my views exactly. . so why do our scouts always find the wrong players when players like banega are so glaringly obvious to everyone else. {ed's note - that is a good question, but I don't know the answer, sorry.}
22 Nov 2010 00:04:05
Ed, what are your views on Ever Banega. . is he a player we coulddo with. . he is young, very talented and. . . unsettled at Valencia. {ed's note - he is top class, there is no doubt he would improve the team. Not sure he would be a priority player to sign though, but I would love to see him play for us.}