Liverpool Rumours Archive October 21 2010

 

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21 Oct 2010 23:50:19
21 Oct 2010 23:39:37
Same place u get ur info from ed. Many people can't b wrong. {ed's note - I feel bad hoping Roy is going, but I just can't see him turning this around and I think it is best he goes. Plus I have my head on the line here and am going to look an idiot if my info is wrong. Roy can take solace in his multi million pound pay off I am sure!}
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You shouldn't feel bad ED! It's not your fault that Roy's just not cutting it. I've seen you right up to last week try to stay positive like i did. But the time has come for change mate it's just not working.

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - I was trying because I hoped that when the take over was complete the change in atmosphere would be what is needed. But there is so much more wrong, player power is just too strong and it is time for someone to come in and break it.}

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21 Oct 2010 23:48:43
{ed's note - I feel bad hoping Roy is going, but I just can't see him turning this around and I think it is best he goes. Plus I have my head on the line here and am going to look an idiot if my info is wrong. Roy can take solace in his multi million pound pay off I am sure!}

Aye but it's all contracts at the end of the day. We saw that in the summer. McGeady was literally 48 hours away from playing for Villa - instead by a quirk of fate it's more vodka tovarich. {ed's note - I never thought I would give up on a Liverpool manager this soon, but what I am hearing just makes me think this one has no chance.}

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21 Oct 2010 23:48:34
IT would of been great if Roy had signed up to a documentary of his time at Anfield. He must of know that his time in charge was going to be short. It would have been interesting to see everything that has happened at liverpool over the last 4 months.

Its been like a war zone in board room. The players have been rubbish on the pitch and a lot of people would of understood why Roy has such a poor time of it if we could see a little bit of him behind the curtain.

I wonder if he is like Dave Bassett england manager. A documentary film crew would of has a great time filming him up to his sacking. It might helped him with his career. He knew that he would get the sack sooner at lfc.

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21 Oct 2010 23:44:33
Ed will hodgson be gone before sunday do you know mate? {ed's note - I don't know for sure, I don't expect him to be in charge though.}

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21 Oct 2010 23:43:28
Have you ever heard such rubbish regarding Carragher's 'planned' substitution? Rest Lucas but take Carragher all the way to Naples, make him captain and then plan to substitute him after 45 minutes. .that makes perfect footballing sense and shows outstanding ledership doesn't it?
Something has gone on it that changing room, hopefully revolving around Carragher pointing out that we needed to push on and win the game rather than playing on the defensive and hoping for a draw.
After the Everton game RH said that Liverpool were offensive, dead right;
Offensive to the history of this great club, Offensive to the hard working fans who fork out fortunes for tickets (including those who got stabbed attending a game he pretty much stated he didn't care about). The most Offensive thing is that whenever this man opens his gob he fills the world with embarrassing rubbish (post derby interview) or disgraceful, barely disguised attcks on our star striker while touting him to his big 'mate' Ferguson who probably thinks he's a spineless git for not defending Torres following his own attack on him after we lost at Old Trafford.

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21 Oct 2010 23:39:37
Same place u get ur info from ed. Many people can't b wrong. {ed's note - I feel bad hoping Roy is going, but I just can't see him turning this around and I think it is best he goes. Plus I have my head on the line here and am going to look an idiot if my info is wrong. Roy can take solace in his multi million pound pay off I am sure!}

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21 Oct 2010 23:28:24
21 Oct 2010 21:57:09 Liverpool Rumours Thanks Chaps. Thats the first believable post ive seen from you RED LENIN! Sorry chap - couldnt resist!

C'est mon plaisir mon ami, vous croyez que vous le souhaitez. Ma source elle est ma demi-sour. Mais ne pas en parler. C'est un secret

RED LENIN

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21 Oct 2010 23:28:22
Apparently, I have been surfing the net, Torres is going nowhere, Hodgson won't make it to Christmas, We're looking to snipe Uniteds bid for Defour and offer 10 million in Jan, we're also looking at Lisandro Lopez for 14ish million and a Swap of Babel for Mata, Personally I think these are 3 great signings for us and if we do get Rijkaard then he'll play the dutch 433 of this:

Reina
Johnson Carra Skrtel/ Agger Insua (signed him for Gala)
Gerrard Meireles Defour
(Lopez Possibly) Torres Mata

Im hoping that we can sign someone along the lines of Hazard as he is young and a real talent, Bench should consist of Ngog, Pacheco, Shelvey, Lucas, Kelly, Skrtel/ Agger Jones.

Personally I reckon with the sales of Aquaman for about 12million to Juventus in January and the Babel swap we could get Defour and lopez for under 25 million; from what i last heard we had approx 30 million but I reckon due to the shear awefulness of the squad NESV will splash out on about 50 million as they can see how poor the team was.


1st post hope it cleared some stuff for you guys :D

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21 Oct 2010 23:25:22
Ed don't get me wrong I'm as peed off as the next fan about the way we are playing, but what's gone wrong? The fulham players and fans adored hodgson?? {ed's note - I don't get why things have been quite this bad. I thought Hodgson would be a good stabilising influence to get us through the take over and then be replaced by a long term option at the end of the season.}


My former boss is a Fulham season ticket holder of over twenty years standing and tells me that Hughes is like a breath of fresh air with his attacking style and couldn't believe we took RH.
As our rumour site has gone into overdrive, I would like to make the following observations.
1. Tonights result wasn't bad 'on paper' but we play on grass. Napoli were there for the taking.
2. Martin Kelly is an excellent prospect, but as a centre back not a full back. Don't ruin the lad's progression by playing him out of position.
3. Shelvey should be kept in the first 18 for every game from now on, at least to see firsthand the pace of the PL; this boy is a real prospect.
4. Did RH finally grow a pair of balls at half time and finally get pissed off with Carra and give him the hook?
5. Was Pacheco punished for being late for training or is RH holding him back for Sunday?
6. Should Stevie G, Carra, Reina and Nando have a straightner behind The Albert?
7. There are 3 types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can't.

The Purple Helmet.

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21 Oct 2010 23:23:47
It's almost certain Hodgson will be replaced sooner rather than later. Most sensible fans, with countless years of experience between them, are unanimous on what they think about the playing side of things. Should Rijkaard or whovever take charge soon they will be expected to inherit the current crop of crap and crapper and work wonders. It won't happen but why can't they consult forums like this to get a much quicker idea of what the fans think. . . . . .they could do much worse than implementing some of the following strongly held views ;

Demoted ; Sammy Lee to lesser role or dole
Lucas Leiva to fringe player or sold
Jamie Carragher used sparingly
Konchesky to cover for someone good
N'Gog as a third choice behind a World- Class signing to support Torres (Aguero etc.?)
Sold; Ryan Babel (how long do we give you?), Christian Poulsen (carp), Maxi Rodriguez (lazy), Glen Johnson (or used as wide midfield), Martin Skrtl(clueless thug), Jay Spearing (Danny Murphy Lite), Aurelio (more sick than the Great Plague), Aquilani (may as well cash in . .bit lightweight) and finally Fernando Torres (if he's been damaged by broken promises beyond repair then it might be prudent to sell him at his best price . . poss. £55-60m? )
Would love to swap him for cash plus M.Johnson and Adebayor.
I won't speculate too much about signings as I hate this "Championship Manager" culture which seems to prevail on this forum but my feeling is we should bear in mind a need to invest more in home-grown players and if we could progress with the likes of M.Johnson, C.Wickham, Gareth Barry, A.Young and L.Wilkshere (impossible! ) and Adebayor alongside our current crop of Gerrard, Shelvey, Kelly, Wilson, Suso, Pacheco, Amoo, Jovanovich, Meireles, Agger, Johnson (WM), Sterling, Ince, Reina, Jones etc. then I can't see us being far off the pace. It's a very British team with a good balance of foreigners. Obviously, it still leaves cover needed in certain positions and doesn't mention all of the talent at our disposal but the point I'm trying to make is that with the right manager there's no reason why £40+ a ticket shouldn't be a bargain rather than a complete waste of beer money!
Anfieldpete

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21 Oct 2010 23:23:41
Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. Shelvey is twice the player Poulson is!
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That's a bit harsh on Shelvey mate - he's at least three times the player Poulsen is - LIVERPRES

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21 Oct 2010 23:20:29
Great he playing lucas against blackburn! How good must he be in training to be a first team player?!?!?! what do you hear about him in training ed? {ed's note - actually I hear that he is class in training, but I am not sure if I am being wound up or not.}

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21 Oct 2010 23:19:02
To the editor, is there a chance you could ask your sources to try and engineer a move for Eden Hazard and Mathieu Debuchy? ? {ed's note - I could ask but I doubt they will be able to arrange that mate!}

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21 Oct 2010 23:12:34
If a new manager comes in will he begiven funds to spend januaray? IMO it's a terrible time to be spending cash, prices are inflated and there are a lot of panic buys, ed do you think we will have money to spend? I think the squad is well capable of getting out of this mess, they just need to show a bit of pride in the jersey

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21 Oct 2010 23:11:25
Ed, u may be correct about roy. Announcement fri afternoon {ed's note - where did you hear that mate?}

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21 Oct 2010 23:10:24
Hi Ed

Great site, this is my first time writing on your website. Keep it going! !

Liverpool is going down if we stay with Roy. He was lucky with Fulham, He has never hit the big time and i am really worried when he says Everton game was the best of the season, I mean "for God sake Roy are you blind, deaf, or just outright stupid".

Liverpool need to sack him NOW! He aint leaving without his big cheque. Now i know everyone is singing and dancing about FR but i think we have forgot one person MARTIN O'NEILL. I think he is the best choice manager wth a track record better than most out there. What you think Ed? {ed's note - I really don't rate O'Neill, I would not be keen on him coming in at all.}

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21 Oct 2010 23:09:07
To ED, i just have to say i respect your loyalty to your contacts and for being bold enough to share your information, and that you should not be slated for that on your own site, thankyou! {ed's note - cheers mate.}

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21 Oct 2010 23:08:06
Well if that's the case and he belives it then, its time for the men in whites coats to take him away lol. and people who criticize you for being told something (wich we all want to here) and then telling us. just wait till monday and hopefully it will be time for you to rub it in. and 1 thing STOP WRITING IN CAPS LOCK YOU MUG lol.

always a red

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21 Oct 2010 23:07:26
I just seen the SSN interview with Roy. Sounds like this great site amongst others got a mention. I don't know weither that's a good thing ED after all it was on SSN. Hopefully Roy was talking about Kraptak.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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21 Oct 2010 23:07:14
Well Roy looks dejected, he knows his time is up. Too much suspicous activity has happened over the week to suggest otherwise. The fact that he says that he won't resign is probably becuase he won't get his severabce pay if he does. He knows he's going he might aswell get some money out of it.

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21 Oct 2010 23:03:38
Redfish mate you are spot on! I honestly thought if Poulsen would ever look good for us it would have been tonite against Italian opposition but I was wrong he was still too slow and too crap which means hes got no chance in the prem. Aqua seemed like he wasnt used to the pace of the prem at first and once he looked like he might get going we loaned him out and replaced him with poulsen. We have swapped improving crap for total crap. He makes Lucas look boss!

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21 Oct 2010 23:00:50
21 Oct 2010 22:33:48
I will try and get some info tomorrow with regards Hodgsons position.

Macca {ed's note - cheers mate, that would be great.}
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Nice one Macca! Could you also pass on this message from most of us on this great site?

"Roy you've tried mate but you're just not up to LFC standard now please f*ck off"

Thanks Macca!

Blir Mayne YNWA

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21 Oct 2010 23:00:44
CORRECT ITS NOT BUT LAST TIME I CHECKED HE HAD THE BACKING OF THE BOARD, WHICH TO ME ARE THE ONLY PPL WHO TRUELY KNOW {ed's note - so you are saying that the board saying he is staying is proof that they won't sack him? Good point mate, after all we have never heard of a manager being given a vote of confidence just before he has received the sack have we?}. .
LOL MORE PROOF THEN WOT U GOT! {ed's note - no mate, you have the same proof as me - someone's word.}
TO BE HONEST I DONT THINK U KNOW ANY MORE THEN THE REST OF US, AND I WOULD PREFER TO LISTEN TO THE OWNERS THEN SOME RANDOM BUT THIS IS WHY THIS SITE IS GREAT CAUSE WE CAN CHOOSE TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.CAN I ASK WERE U 1 OF THE EDS THAT WERE SINGING HIS PRAISES BEFORE HE WAS APPOINTED?
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Who is this fool ed?? I think hes a bitter manure fan to be fair either that or he has no idea how football and the politics in football works, Dont be thinking your a big man cause you can write it caps pal just sit back a maybe you might learn something about this sport called football!
RedRodge {ed's note - he is perfectly entitled to his opinion mate, he might well be right, they could be spinning me a yarn or being spun a yarn. As for singing Roy's praises, that would depend on what you mean by that. I said that he had a good record and had done a good job in the past of stabilising other clubs, I also mentioned that Moratti said sacking him was his biggest mistake in football. But I also said he wasn't my choice for manager.}

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21 Oct 2010 22:59:54
Think the difference between the eds source and the official public line from the owners is obvious. .the club will be held legally accountable for anything other than full support of the manager untill he has been told otherwise, the ed is gettin his info i take it from people (albeit unguarded and unable to be verified) who r filtering info that is not subject to legal reproach. .whether Roy goes this weekend or not will be irrelevant as there r close sources to the ed who r disillusioned like the rest of us in the way the team is going and ultimately Roy will go barring a streak of results goin his way the pakistani cricketers would be proud of to save his bacon!

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21 Oct 2010 22:58:23
Ed with gerrard supposedly having a say in the manager does this mean he was never sold on hodgson?and doyou think it means he is likely to end his career at anfield? {ed's note - I know the players are not happy with Roy, as Danny Murphy said, the training is boring and they don't like his tactics etc. Though I doubt any of them would be complaining if things were going well!}

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21 Oct 2010 22:50:44
"the Rickard thing is a done deal according to a couple of former players from anfield here at deepdale".


good god no say it aint so, i know options up front are limited but hamilton rickard?? ? we have stooped to new lows roy

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21 Oct 2010 22:48:39
Ed threre's just 1 thing i can't figure out with roy, does he belive his own words, "good result" and "hard earned point". or is he just talking the talk

always a red {ed's note - I think he really believes it mate, that's what worries me.}

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21 Oct 2010 22:45:30
After all this is a rumours site we hear things so we post em so every one can agree or disagree!. . . . .
so any manager in roys position would never quit! he will hang on for his 3 million quid to add to his pension fund, it all boils down to money-not doing the decent thing, what is right for the club paying the money or what seems to be a relegation battle?

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21 Oct 2010 22:45:07
Ed i no we have been linkeed wiv benzema lately but do you think he would come to us and do we have the 20m transfer fee real would want, or could we pay his wages. i just think that he is a bit to dear for us i wouldn't mind seeing adebayor on his showing tonite i think he could form a great partnership wiv nando if he stays


{Editor's Note: No - I don't see Benzema as a solution.}

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21 Oct 2010 22:43:23
ROY IS STAYIN, HE AINT GOING ANYWHERE, AND ANY1 SAYING ANY DIFFERENT IS FULL OF IT INCLUDING THE ED'S! !
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It's not up to Roy IF he stays or not. It's up to NESV and maybe some players (hope not) IF you believe what has been said on here.

Blair Mayne YNWA
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CORRECT ITS NOT BUT LAST TIME I CHECKED HE HAD THE BACKING OF THE BOARD, WHICH TO ME ARE THE ONLY PPL WHO TRUELY KNOW {ed's note - so you are saying that the board saying he is staying is proof that they won't sack him? Good point mate, after all we have never heard of a manager being given a vote of confidence just before he has received the sack have we?}. .
LOL MORE PROOF THEN WOT U GOT! {ed's note - no mate, you have the same proof as me - someone's word.}
TO BE HONEST I DONT THINK U KNOW ANY MORE THEN THE REST OF US, AND I WOULD PREFER TO LISTEN TO THE OWNERS THEN SOME RANDOM BUT THIS IS WHY THIS SITE IS GREAT CAUSE WE CAN CHOOSE TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.CAN I ASK WERE U 1 OF THE EDS THAT WERE SINGING HIS PRAISES BEFORE HE WAS APPOINTED?

{Editor's Note: Nope.}

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21 Oct 2010 22:42:44
Hodgsons reaction to tonights game: ". .their efforts on the field were very commendable. I don't think we should be anything other than delighted with the fact we played well, got the point and are still top of the table."

Im almost lost for words. How can any manager in any level of the game declare themselves delighted with a performance like that!? Napoli were awful tonight and we struggled to create a thing. How can he expect the players to improve if he's saying game after game that their efforts are good enough. Is the man even aware that the point of the game is to score more goals than your opponent!?

Sunday will be my absolute last chance for the man (if he's still in charge). If any of the following happens I will turn my back on him, regardless of the result:

- poulsen plays
- carragher at RB
- gerrard not in CM
- anything other than goin for the kill straight from kick off
- waitin till 80mins before encouraging the team to attack
- we do not attack, attack, attack, attack, attack!
- torres left on his own all game and expected to create all his own chances
- poulsen plays
- poulsen plays!

Redfish

Hey i have to agree with you Redfish on the Poulsen scenario. . .
HOW ON EARTH DID WE SIGN THIS BLOKE LET ALONE LET HIM PLAY OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I have no grudge against him though i realise that even languising in 19th we are better than him.
Village

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21 Oct 2010 22:42:33
{ed's note - The only thing I can say on him going is that I was told he would be gone as soon as a new manager is appointed. The only one I know that has been in the frame was Rijkaard because he was recommended by Carragher and Gerrard.}

Im not saying you're wrong but i would like to know why carragher and gerrard would recommend Rijkaard with neither of them having worked with him previously. How would they know he is going to be any better for the club than roy is?

Jack {ed's note - I don't know mate, could it be that they rated the way his Barca side played against us? After all Rafa was on the short list because of the way his Valencia side destroyed us at Anfield. I have no idea why they have formed that particular opinion though, you only have to look on here to see that a lot of people want him though, so why not players?}

Thats a good point, but i still think that as much as i love Gerrard as a player he has too much power within the club. And needs to be reminded that he is just a player and not the chairman and shouldn't be making these decisions for them. Thanks for your time.

Jack {ed's note - I fully agree mate, the manager needs to take charge.}

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21 Oct 2010 22:42:10
Heres some more evidence:

"@redface77 I've been told by someone who rarely gets it wrong that the deal was done today. He was at anfield earlier apparently"

ive now got a hard on. lmao
people have to make some appologies to you now ed!

harry5:) {ed's note - even if it is right they don't have to apologise, I am only sharing what I have been told. Does make me wonder why I bother though, after all I gain nothing by doing so, it is not like Koptalk were people have to sign up for any info and I get money from it! All it means to me is that more people come here and abuse me up until I am proved right or wrong. By the way to the person who asked if it was a particular player, yes mate one of them is.}

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21 Oct 2010 22:41:41
I am one person who wanted Rijkaard to be manager, but i don't want him if it means Carra and Gerrard picking the team. Both of them have been below there best for along time.I hope Frank gets the job then buys Ron Vlaar and gives him the captains armband.

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21 Oct 2010 22:37:17
Hodgsons reaction to tonights game: ". .their efforts on the field were very commendable. I don't think we should be anything other than delighted with the fact we played well, got the point and are still top of the table."

Im almost lost for words. How can any manager in any level of the game declare themselves delighted with a performance like that!? Napoli were awful tonight and we struggled to create a thing. How can he expect the players to improve if he's saying game after game that their efforts are good enough. Is the man even aware that the point of the game is to score more goals than your opponent!?

Sunday will be my absolute last chance for the man (if he's still in charge). If any of the following happens I will turn my back on him, regardless of the result:

- poulsen plays
- carragher at RB
- gerrard not in CM
- anything other than goin for the kill straight from kick off
- waitin till 80mins before encouraging the team to attack
- we do not attack, attack, attack, attack, attack!
- torres left on his own all game and expected to create all his own chances
- poulsen plays
- poulsen plays!

Redfish

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21 Oct 2010 22:37:08
Hi ed. I am guessing the two players who have informed you of the new manager are {ed's note - correct, but I removed the names!}.

Is the Rijkaard deal getting any closer?
Thanks Again Ed
Ellis T {ed's note - I really don't know mate, I don't even know if it will be him, that is just who they want, for some reason.}

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21 Oct 2010 22:36:19
This is from a twitter person.

(redface77)
"the Rickard thing is a done deal according to a couple of former players from anfield here at deepdale".

sounds good!

harry5:-)

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21 Oct 2010 22:36:12
ROY IS STAYIN, HE AINT GOING ANYWHERE, AND ANY1 SAYING ANY DIFFERENT IS FULL OF IT INCLUDING THE ED'S! !
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It's not up to Roy IF he stays or not. It's up to NESV and maybe some players (hope not) IF you believe what has been said on here.

Blair Mayne YNWA
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CORRECT ITS NOT BUT LAST TIME I CHECKED HE HAD THE BACKING OF THE BOARD, WHICH TO ME ARE THE ONLY PPL WHO TRUELY KNOW {ed's note - so you are saying that the board saying he is staying is proof that they won't sack him? Good point mate, after all we have never heard of a manager being given a vote of confidence just before he has received the sack have we?}. .
LOL MORE PROOF THEN WOT U GOT! {ed's note - no mate, you have the same proof as me - someone's word.}

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21 Oct 2010 22:33:58
Will everyone just calm down a wee tad. . Torres won't be going anywhere yet alone anywhere near the manc s* te. Why would he stay through a summer of unrest, a summer when politics ruled our club and not transfer activity and also through a summer when absolutely no progress was made until the window was closed shut. He loves this club and is probably looking forward to finally playing in a future team full (not just himself and Gerro) of quality and challenging! Village

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21 Oct 2010 22:33:48
I will try and get some info tomorrow with regards Hodgsons position.

Macca {ed's note - cheers mate, that would be great.}

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21 Oct 2010 22:29:59
ROY IS STAYIN, HE AINT GOING ANYWHERE, AND ANY1 SAYING ANY DIFFERENT IS FULL OF IT INCLUDING THE ED'S! !
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It's not up to Roy IF he stays or not. It's up to NESV and maybe some players (hope not) IF you believe what has been said on here.

Blair Mayne YNWA
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CORRECT ITS NOT BUT LAST TIME I CHECKED HE HAD THE BACKING OF THE BOARD, WHICH TO ME ARE THE ONLY PPL WHO TRUELY KNOW {ed's note - so you are saying that the board saying he is staying is proof that they won't sack him? Good point mate, after all we have never heard of a manager being given a vote of confidence just before he has received the sack have we?}

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21 Oct 2010 22:28:23
{ed's note - The only thing I can say on him going is that I was told he would be gone as soon as a new manager is appointed. The only one I know that has been in the frame was Rijkaard because he was recommended by Carragher and Gerrard.}

Im not saying you're wrong but i would like to know why carragher and gerrard would recommend Rijkaard with neither of them having worked with him previously. How would they know he is going to be any better for the club than roy is?

Jack {ed's note - I don't know mate, could it be that they rated the way his Barca side played against us? After all Rafa was on the short list because of the way his Valencia side destroyed us at Anfield. I have no idea why they have formed that particular opinion though, you only have to look on here to see that a lot of people want him though, so why not players?}

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21 Oct 2010 22:24:04
Hey ED so what you are saying is two first teamers have told you that Gerrard and Carragher have picked the next manager.I hope not that can't be good for the club. {ed's note - no they told me he is on the shortlist because they recommended him. I agree though, if he is the one who gets the job it does not send out a good message.}

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21 Oct 2010 22:20:34
21 Oct 2010 21:36:12
ROY IS STAYIN, HE AINT GOING ANYWHERE, AND ANY1 SAYING ANY DIFFERENT IS FULL OF IT INCLUDING THE ED'S! !
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It's not up to Roy IF he stays or not. It's up to NESV and maybe some players (hope not) IF you believe what has been said on here.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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21 Oct 2010 22:19:03
Hey ed, is it true nando and agger have refused to play for Roy again? {ed's note - I don't believe so mate, no. There is a lot of anger and no one is happy currently, but I don't believe it has gotten that bad, but I haven't asked about it specifically to know for definite.}

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21 Oct 2010 22:15:51
THE ONLY PPL WORTH LISTENING TOO ARE THE LIVERPOOL BOARD AND THE MANAGER AND NOTHING INDICATING HE IS GOING, LOL THEY ARE THE PPL WHO KNOW! !

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21 Oct 2010 22:14:35
Ed I think you better have a chat with your informers! looks like Roy is going nowhere. He seems pretty adamant that it's just a lot of crap being posted on "some web sites". I think you better rethink in posting any info you get from these players in future!
Aroc {ed's note - he only said he has no intention of resigning, remember he has a clause in his contract allowing him to be removed within a month of a take over.}

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21 Oct 2010 22:13:18
I wonder if Rijkaard will keep insua. he may of seen potencial in him! he loaned him after all!

harry5:)

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21 Oct 2010 22:10:57
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Manchester United have been told under no circumstances will they ever sign Fernando Torres, talkSPORT can reveal.

With Wayne Rooney in line for a shock move to United's neighbours Manchester City, there has been some suggestion that Torres could make an equally stunning move to Old Trafford.

Fears over Torres' future has prompted Roy Hodgson to speak about the rumours and he has done little to calm Liverpool fans' fears over an exit, saying: "I am not nave enough to believe there won't be any danger we will lose Torres.

"When a great player like Rooney is looking to leave, United will be looking to target many players around the world."

It seems unthinkable but rumours of a move have been growing for weeks and Ferguson is a long term admirer of the Spaniard - he tried to sign him in 2006 and was interested a year later before Torres chose Anfield instead.

The Euro 2008 and World Cup winner has looked disillusioned with life at Anfield following Liverpool's woes on and off the field, raising fears he could be off before too long.

Torres has spoken of his desire to have assurances over the club's plans in the transfer market in a similar way to Rooney.

The United striker has decided to not sign a new contract at Old Trafford after claiming the club are not moving in the right direction over player recruitment.

Torres will be keen to see how the winter transfer market pans out for Liverpool, with new owners New England Sports Ventures unclear on how much money they have to spend on their new club.

If Torres decides to take the Rooney route of his club and seek a move, United will be keen once again.

Rooney's departure will reignite interest in the 26-year-old but sources at Anfield have confirmed to talkSPORT that Torres will not be sold to United under any circumstances.

NESV are aware of the precarious situation at the club and their relationship with the fans needs to be built and talkSPORT has learned that they will refuse to sell Torres to United.

Ellis T

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21 Oct 2010 22:09:45
21 Oct 2010 21:21:06
Roy would love to get struggling Karim Benzema. and with the new owners in place, all we really need to do now is get better results so he would be perswaded to come.
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[[. i suggest you should go back and ream some posts mate. it looks extreemly unlikely that roy will be here till january!
but yeah id take him or Rijkaard might

harry5:)

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21 Oct 2010 22:09:07
Ed, what is Rijkaard's relationship with Arda Turan? {ed's note - I have no idea mate, sorry.} to this person they r close in ways of a threesome

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21 Oct 2010 22:08:19
Franck Rijkaard has dismissed media speculation linking him with the Boro job. The former Dutch international was sacked by Galatasary yesterday and was immediately linked by the gutter press with a move to Boro.

But Rijkaard doesn't fancy it and instead is apparently holding out for the Liverpool job, despite the ailing Scousers having a manager in place

Rijkaard said about the Boro job; "I want to continue my career in England but at a club that has ambition and is moving forward. I don't see that at Middlesbrough."

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That was Koeman you plonker.

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21 Oct 2010 22:04:09
How reliable our your sources ed {ed's note - they have been right before, no one is 100% but they have always kept me in the loop in most things. Though they weren't much use during the take over!}

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21 Oct 2010 22:02:24
ROY HERE FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON.
LETS JUST GET ON WITH SUPPORTING.
HOPEFULLY HE CAN TURN THINGS ROUND AND WE WILL FINISH IN THE TOP 10.
THE ONLY THING THAT WILL KEEP HIS JOB BEYOND THIS SEASON IS A CUP.

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21 Oct 2010 22:01:41
Redknapp . . . . .

May 15th 2011

Lets give him and the spuds the most hostile reception ever witnessed (if redknapps not locked up) lets make that cockney monkey remember who he's been dissin'

LFC1

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21 Oct 2010 22:00:39
Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - the official line is it was a planned substitution, I have no evidence to doubt that line, well not yet anyway, so I have to accept it as the truth. Which is why I am baffled, why change the centre halves? The only thing I can say on him going is that I was told he would be gone as soon as a new manager is appointed. The only one I know that has been in the frame was Rijkaard because he was recommended by Carragher and Gerrard.}
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Then why bring Carragher in the 1st place mate? Yet again another baffling decision by Roy.

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - that's what I don't understand mate, it is an incredible decision.}

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21 Oct 2010 22:00:00
21 Oct 2010 21:30:21
Just heard rooney deal has been done by gill and glazers to sell to city behind fergies back and fergie has resigned
dontknow how true but from a colleague who has connections at the club

bigg2966

Never mind rooney or what goes on up there, should'concern us as its a liverpool rumours section.

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21 Oct 2010 21:59:11
21 Oct 2010 21:30:21
Just heard rooney deal has been done by gill and glazers to sell to city behind fergies back and fergie has resigned
dontknow how true but from a colleague who has connections at the club

bigg2966

Fergie to LFC?

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21 Oct 2010 21:57:17
Youve put yr rep on the line here ed with the new manager shout all i can say is i hope yr right never thought hodgson was the man from the start and due to the fact we havent put one decent half of football together in a meaningful game since hes been here i think its only right the club should act now. not convinced on rijkaard would go for pellegrini myself but i would put my house on it being an improvement on roy with either man

kopman {ed's note - I know mate, I hate doing this, but I have to trust that they are telling me the truth. They were right about O'Neill leaving Villa, so I am going to trust them.}

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21 Oct 2010 21:57:09
Ed - I posed earlier for a vote at about midday. Dalglish or Rijkaard.
When I left the office at about 6ish, it was a close run thing, with Rijkaard edging it at about 29 to 25. Now I login to check and its 30 to 16 for Dalglish! !
WTF!?!?
Red Gart {ed's note - I have no idea how that happened mate.}


I believe the programme that runs the voting checks every now and then that each vote has come from a unique IP address and removes duplicates, so when people click, then refresh, then click again to push the vote up, after a short while the system reviews and removes duplicate voting.

Not that I would know cos I've done it myself

RED LENIN {ed's note - it could well be mate, I didn't write the program so I don't know for sure, but it would make sense.}

Thanks Chaps. Thats the first believable post ive seen from you RED LENIN! Sorry chap - couldnt resist!

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21 Oct 2010 21:56:15
"SSN saying no move for Rijkaard so what the hell
is going on is Roy going or not"

there is no move for him yet. .

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21 Oct 2010 21:55:19
What has pacheco done to upset woy, he can't get a look in at the moment, he is a class player. Shelvey was excellent tonight and he should get more game time. Babel days are numbered who goes first babel or woy close one

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21 Oct 2010 21:54:30
"Think Roy has just quashed all the nonsense rumours about him resigning by all you numptees"

and why's that?

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21 Oct 2010 21:51:10
Ed you posted earlier saying 2 players have given you the info on a new manager being installed by Sat, from listening to Roy he knows nothing about this. Do you really think the players would know before Roy?
Aroc {ed's note - he has said he is not thinking about resigning, I was told he was to be removed, maybe that is why he made it clear he was not resigning? I don't know to be honest mate, all I know is what they have told me, anything else is me speculating.}

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21 Oct 2010 21:49:45
Shelvey give a decent account of himself tonite i think, warrants a start against blackburn id say alongside stevie g
but i bet woeful woy won't even hav him in the squad !

what are your thoughts ed ? {ed's note - Shelvey deserves a run in the first team, I have a feeling he won't get it and that he only got this game because it is claimed he signed with a first team games clause.}

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21 Oct 2010 21:48:08
Any official managerail news yet anybody, ed? {ed's note - nothing official mate.}

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21 Oct 2010 21:47:55
Whats going on ed I was waiting for woy to say he is off. .
I can't take any more of this negative side passing, back passing, affraid of loosing crap football.
Torres clearly don't want it any more and to be quite frankly I am on the verge of loosing the plot. .
We all as fans put our family 2nd to liverpool and for the last 5 years (since istanbull) have no good reason to do so. Im gonna have to give in soon and start watching eastenders with the misses if he don't sod off. .
I tell you what lads click believe if we should watch alfie moon wreck the vic in eastenders or unbelieve if we should watch woy wreck lfc

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21 Oct 2010 21:47:37
Hey ed great site i love it, i haven't been on it in a few days so is it true roy is gone after blackburn game wit Rijkaard replacin him and wud dis mean we've a great chance of gettin turan in jan he is brill and wud wear jersey wit pride

adam ynwa {ed's note - that is what I am being told, that Hodgson is going, though I was told he was being removed not resigning. We have a chance of getting Turan anyway, he has been begging for a move to us for years now.}

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21 Oct 2010 21:40:36
ROY HAS STEPPED DOWN! !
watch this space - 10:30pm statement . .

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21 Oct 2010 21:37:16
Franck Rijkaard has dismissed media speculation linking him with the Boro job. The former Dutch international was sacked by Galatasary yesterday and was immediately linked by the gutter press with a move to Boro.

But Rijkaard doesn't fancy it and instead is apparently holding out for the Liverpool job, despite the ailing Scousers having a manager in place

Rijkaard said about the Boro job; "I want to continue my career in England but at a club that has ambition and is moving forward. I don't see that at Middlesbrough."

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21 Oct 2010 21:36:12
ROY IS STAYIN, HE AINT GOING ANYWHERE, AND ANY1 SAYING ANY DIFFERENT IS FULL OF IT INCLUDING THE ED'S! !

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21 Oct 2010 21:34:24
Just seen interview on sky sports with hodgson denying he is resigning or the thought of resignation ever crossing his mind he says hes here for long haul and blames rumour sites like this for causing unrest please tell me there is some truth in rumours that hes a gonner sooner rather than later can't stand to watch another negative display and to see us fall further from grace

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21 Oct 2010 21:33:09
. . . . .a good result and a good performance, according to Woy, WHAT? , they were there for the taking for goodness sake and once again there was no link/ support between midfield and the striker(apart from Shelvey who basically stole the show without support from Babel and co.

Ed, any news when Hodgson is going? {ed's note - all I know is what I was told, that he would be gone as soon as the new man is sorted. I am hoping that my sources are right, the last time there was confusion like this was when my sources told me MON was gone from Villa and they were right then, so I am going to stand by them.}

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21 Oct 2010 21:32:47
Ed, what is Rijkaard's relationship with Arda Turan? {ed's note - I have no idea mate, sorry.}

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21 Oct 2010 21:31:39
Ive had enough of seeing all this dross, as many of the rest of you have, especially when we have so many good youngsters at the moment who don't get a chance.

Check this out for a team against Blackburn. . .

Reina

Kelly - Carra - Wilson - Aurelio

Shelvey - Gerrard - Meireles - Amoo

Pacheco
Torres

Subs: Cole, Ngog, Skrtl, Agger, Suso, Johnson, Jones

OK, Aurelio is in there as Jack Robinson is still a bit too young (and he's better than Konch!), but there is still enough experience here to see the youngsters through it.

If we don't give the youngsters a go now, while there is so much dross in the first team squad, we may as well ditch the youth system and concentrate everything on the first team! Whats the point?!

We also have Wisdom, Sterling, Robinson, Mavinga, N'Goo and others coming through. Exciting times, but are they realistically going to get a chance if we only get one League Cup game per season to test them as subs, alongside the likes of Lucas, Jovanovic and Soto?! Frustrating!

ED - From what you know, are your first team contacts excited by some of the youngsters coming through, and will NESV be owners to insist on bringing youth through?

Red Gart {ed's note - to be honest I have not asked them about that, there have been far too many other things to ask about. That is a very good question, I will have to remember to ask about that.}

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21 Oct 2010 21:30:21
Just heard rooney deal has been done by gill and glazers to sell to city behind fergies back and fergie has resigned
dontknow how true but from a colleague who has connections at the club

bigg2966

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21 Oct 2010 21:29:42
Ed Can u help explain something to me?

We knew in April that club was going to be sold sooner rather than later.
WHY did Benitez go 1 year into a 5 year deal? Surely it made financial sense to stick with him and let the new owners decide on his future rather than pay him off when we were struggling financially? ?
Was there more to the story than was made public. Watching Inter last night reminded me how well Rafa does in europe (normally!)

Again was it player power? But the spanish players havent looked happy since Rafa went and now we hear stories of senior players wanting rid of roy (he has to go)

Any coincidence in Rafa's milk rant & Purslow's resignation/ removal from post?
It seems to me that there's a lot more to this story?. . can u shed any light ED?

Robkop {ed's note - the players weren't happy with Rafa, but they are not happy with Roy either. Purslow's resignation was nothing to do with Rafa, he was only appointed as an interim chief exec.}

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21 Oct 2010 21:28:24
SSN saying no move for Rijkaard so what the hell
is going on is Roy going or not

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21 Oct 2010 21:28:04
Why doesn't Roy try a swap in january, Pacheco for coutinho. I don't think Rafa could resist, he's that stupid!

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21 Oct 2010 21:27:42
Think Roy has just quashed all the nonsense rumours about him resigning by all you numptees

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21 Oct 2010 21:24:01
21 Oct 2010 19:27:04
So it was planned that carra would come off. WTF.
is it coz he wanted to play in roys last game.
Maybe!
Any other ideas anyone?

Now konchesky, so he takes off 2 defenders and brings on 2 defenders. My god hes so attack minded! Lol

Harry5:) {ed's note - that was the most insane thing I have ever seen, you don't change a centre back unless you have to.}
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ED is what your saying true? I watched the game and didn't hear why he got brought off. At half time i turned it over to River Cottage on Ch.4 and to be honest i didn't want to turn it back. Far more interesting than the match same old story different City.

Please ED give me some good news on Roy getting the sack. I can't take much more of his defenseive tactic's and stupid comments. I said at the start of the season judge him in the Premiersip after 38 games not 2-3. I was wrong yet again f*ck 38 games he has to go ASAP.

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - the official line is it was a planned substitution, I have no evidence to doubt that line, well not yet anyway, so I have to accept it as the truth. Which is why I am baffled, why change the centre halves? The only thing I can say on him going is that I was told he would be gone as soon as a new manager is appointed. The only one I know that has been in the frame was Rijkaard because he was recommended by Carragher and Gerrard.}

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21 Oct 2010 21:23:03
Ed, i know u can't name names but do u really know 2 first team players and how do u know them? {ed's note - I really can't say, because it would give away which two it is! I was trying to think of a way to say without giving them away, but I think it is very obvious if I say anything sorry.}

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21 Oct 2010 21:21:06
Roy would love to get struggling Karim Benzema. and with the new owners in place, all we really need to do now is get better results so he would be perswaded to come

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21 Oct 2010 21:13:30
21 Oct 2010 20:57:50
Ed - I posed earlier for a vote at about midday. Dalglish or Rijkaard.
When I left the office at about 6ish, it was a close run thing, with Rijkaard edging it at about 29 to 25. Now I login to check and its 30 to 16 for Dalglish! !
WTF!?!?
Red Gart {ed's note - I have no idea how that happened mate.}


I believe the programme that runs the voting checks every now and then that each vote has come from a unique IP address and removes duplicates, so when people click, then refresh, then click again to push the vote up, after a short while the system reviews and removes duplicate voting.

Not that I would know cos I've done it myself

RED LENIN {ed's note - it could well be mate, I didn't write the program so I don't know for sure, but it would make sense.}

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21 Oct 2010 21:09:03
Heres a shout. My source who works for Thomas Cook and sorts out the travel for LFC tells me that Kenny is on his way to Lille with a Director tonight. Lille play Didier Deschamps' Marseille on the 24th. Read into that what you will.

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21 Oct 2010 21:07:24
21 Oct 2010 20:51:54
21 Oct 2010 20:47:44
Watching LFC tv and can't understand some of the fans ringing in saying how well we played tonight, I thought Napoli were s* t and were there for the taking, we looked poor and short of ideas going forward. As for Roy well he summed up his attacking ideas by replacing 2 backs with 2 backs. Ed you seem pretty confident that Roy is going what makes you so sure, haven't the new owners backed Roy until at least December! {ed's note - I am just going on what I have been told mate, I trust the people who told me.}

Who has told you? Or can't u tell us. . Lol

Harry5:) {ed's note - all I can say is it is coming from two first team players, I don't think I can even give you a clue without risking them getting into trouble.}

[[. ooooh. ok i just clicked believable. ha
if its poulson tell us. then he may get sacked of sumin.

if its true though do ya think that's why carra played only a half.
but also carra said before the match to get behind roy hodgson. i feel after hearing that not many people would believe that hes leaving or anyway near close.

harry5:) {ed's note - well a player can hardly come out and say 'we aren't bothering to try because he will be gone after this match' can he? I have no idea why Carra only played the first half, I really don't understand that substitution, it was unreal. As for players, if it was Poulsen I would say I promise you!}

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21 Oct 2010 21:02:01
Ed, is there someone in talks about becoming the new manager {ed's note - I am told Rijkaard is in talks, I have not heard about anyone else though Pellegrini has claimed he has been contacted.}

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21 Oct 2010 21:01:30
Ed I was checking the Paddy Power website, Frank Rijkaard is now 2/ 5 to become our manager and I think that William Hill has stopped taking bets. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think tonight was Roy's last game. Any thoughtsed? ? {ed's note - I am pretty sure that the plan is to have Rijkaard installed by Saturday.}

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21 Oct 2010 20:57:50
Ed - I posed earlier for a vote at about midday. Dalglish or Rijkaard.

When I left the office at about 6ish, it was a close run thing, with Rijkaard edging it at about 29 to 25. Now I login to check and its 30 to 16 for Dalglish! !

WTF!?!?

Anyway, nevermind. Technology hey!

Just wanted to throw a name in the ring to see what the reaction would be. . . MARCO VAN BASTEN.

What is he up to these days? He is a massive name and would play attacking football. He just needs a reliable right hand man in my opinion.

Red Gart {ed's note - I have no idea how that happened mate.}

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21 Oct 2010 20:51:54
21 Oct 2010 20:47:44
Watching LFC tv and can't understand some of the fans ringing in saying how well we played tonight, I thought Napoli were s* t and were there for the taking, we looked poor and short of ideas going forward. As for Roy well he summed up his attacking ideas by replacing 2 backs with 2 backs. Ed you seem pretty confident that Roy is going what makes you so sure, haven't the new owners backed Roy until at least December! {ed's note - I am just going on what I have been told mate, I trust the people who told me.}

Who has told you? Or can't u tell us. . Lol

Harry5:) {ed's note - all I can say is it is coming from two first team players, I don't think I can even give you a clue without risking them getting into trouble.}

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21 Oct 2010 20:51:23
Ok Ed. i agree skyrtle was an idiot and he didn't need to foul the player he should have just sheperd him out. My point was to the guy who said Jay was superb. his lack of pace meant Skyrtle coming across. yes your right Jay wasnt at fault for the foul, but he was responsible for skyrtle having to come across.Lets leave it at there. {ed's note - ok then we agree, that is a weakness in Jay's game, a major one. But it could be worked around, it is just a shame he has not been given the chances to prove himself sooner and gain experience to allow him to make up for his lack of pace.}

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21 Oct 2010 20:51:14
I need to rant. . the frustration with Roy and his fans on here are driving me crazy

Support Roy! well to be honest didn't want him in the first place, he has no track record but seems a nice guy so gave him the benefit of the doubt to see how he works out. 8 games later and all i see is garbage, no style, players that don't seem to have a clue of positioning especially when defending. . and well, absolutely no confidence going forward.

Several posts on the site from people saying 'we are liverpool we should support our manager' bollocks! I bet you where the same ones that wanted Benitez out

Should we give him more time. . NO absolutely not, if I could see what he was trying to do with his formations or the potential of winning team then maybe but I just cant. .and as most of you arent probably old enough to remember the Souness era. . I for one don't want to see us go through that and take another 20 years to get close to a title again.

Most of the squad is the same one Benitez had, but the ones Roy has bought in would struggle to get a game for Leicester.

Im convinced he was only bought in as a temporary measure anyway, as you don't build a world class team with a guy ready to retire. . I just don't think the board or supporters thought his tactics would be this dire.

Also I have to take a few people to task who are posting to sell Torres & Gerrard. . you sure your not Everton fans in disguise. . for christ sake they obviously arent enjoying playing these tactics/ formations. .you watch when Rijkard or Pelligrini come in, they will get their mojo back

Aaararghghghgh! !

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21 Oct 2010 20:47:44
Watching LFC tv and can't understand some of the fans ringing in saying how well we played tonight, I thought Napoli were s* t and were there for the taking, we looked poor and short of ideas going forward. As for Roy well he summed up his attacking ideas by replacing 2 backs with 2 backs. Ed you seem pretty confident that Roy is going what makes you so sure, haven't the new owners backed Roy until at least December! {ed's note - I am just going on what I have been told mate, I trust the people who told me.}

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21 Oct 2010 20:46:54
Does any one know why lfc stopped the "this is anfield" podcast? I thought it was a great idea.
Did anyone else listen to it?

(ps: i know its a bit of change in subject) lol

Harry5:)

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21 Oct 2010 20:44:10
. .The only thing that stoped me from burning my house down with me and my family in it was Jonjo Shelvey's performance. He was so comfortable on the ball and unafraid to try diferent things that i got even more angry at Roy for waiting untill now to start him!. .Can anyone tell me why he should not be playing infront of Lucas in any game any time? . .And I'm not just saying this because of tonight. .anyone on this site might know I've been singing his praise for a while.

Anyway Ed. .I'm angry and need you to calm me down please!. .Thanks

SI


Totally agree with all that as been said think it is main reason the players look so frustrated and dejected alpt of the time

Rijkaard maybe not my choice but he will give us a free flowing style of football i wouls sooner lose games 5-4 in some style then to turn up defend defend defend and lose 2-0 we need to be shaken and set free frome defensive minded coaches and managers

tazz YNWA

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21 Oct 2010 20:40:57
21 Oct 2010 20:27:58
This is the end of Roy's reign.
Trust me on this part. Reports are coming in that Frank Rijkaard as a liverpool is a done deal. Expect Roy's sacking mebbe today or tomorrow. Roy ll be present at sunday's game to bid good-bye to fans. No hard feelings for this guy. He'll always be respected by fans. The thing is he isn't up for the job. Wat say Ed.? {ed's note - that is what I am hearing too, as soon as the manager's deal is finalised Roy is gone.}

(( ed if so then why did rijkaards agent say he has had no contact?? ?

Harry5:) {ed's note - because contact was made before he left Gala.}

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21 Oct 2010 20:35:34
{ed's note - I don't think Babel has any more to give, he can't even control a simple pass, he is lazy and useless.}

Come on ED, he's not that good! {ed's note - I was being nice....}

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21 Oct 2010 20:31:13
THAT. .IS. . IT! !. . . .

Ed, this game is the reason why Roy HAS to go! I am so F* * *G angry right now i am shaking! Because he has no balls and is so scared to make a mistake and is so negative, he set out our team full of fear and with defend defend defend ringing in their ears! !. .Napoli are an ok team having an ok time in their league. .And this was a Europa league match in a group which we were top of, and Roy didn't have the Balls to go and attack them to save his job! !. .This is the excact reason why he is out of his depth! . .

. .Part of the reason i'm saying this is because whilst i know we are playing poorly at the momment, i saw more then enough to be able to say that with a new manager and a new direction and new orders we could be watching a very different team!

. . .What type of manager, under pressure to change things round, watches his team not really creating much and drawing nil nil, thinks to himself "I know what to do! I'll replace two defenders with two defenders! ". .FCUK ME Ed. .

. . And what a outrageous performance by Poulssen!. I was pulling out my hair and screaming at the telly at his poor movement. .His movement after each of his passes show me he was praying he didn't get the ball back, and that is shamefull! !

. .The only thing that stoped me from burning my house down with me and my family in it was Jonjo Shelvey's performance. He was so comfortable on the ball and unafraid to try diferent things that i got even more angry at Roy for waiting untill now to start him!. .Can anyone tell me why he should not be playing infront of Lucas in any game any time? . .And I'm not just saying this because of tonight. .anyone on this site might know I've been singing his praise for a while.

Anyway Ed. .I'm angry and need you to calm me down please!. .Thanks

SI


YNWA {ed's note - I am as annoyed as you, Napoli were there for the taking and we didn't even try and take them. I am sick of watching boring, negative football, I want to see us take the game to the opposition.}

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21 Oct 2010 20:30:16
Just watched roys interview he doesn't look or seem like a man about to quit or get sacked.he was talking about sundays game and having the rest of the senior players back.he also talked about spearing and shelvey and how if the keep training and playing the way they are theyll be pushing for a first team start maybe all the rumers are s* t and he is staying.

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21 Oct 2010 20:27:58
This is the end of Roy's reign.
Trust me on this part. Reports are coming in that Frank Rijkaard as a liverpool is a done deal. Expect Roy's sacking mebbe today or tomorrow. Roy ll be present at sunday's game to bid good-bye to fans. No hard feelings for this guy. He'll always be respected by fans. The thing is he isn't up for the job. Wat say Ed.? {ed's note - that is what I am hearing too, as soon as the manager's deal is finalised Roy is gone.}

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21 Oct 2010 20:27:46
Ed, when you were saying last night about Roy being sacked by the weekend, was dat before or after the blackburn game? {ed's note - I don't know mate, though I believe the intention is before if possible.}

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21 Oct 2010 20:27:13
Hi new on here.
What about if liverpool went for adebayor of city sure we could get him for 10 to 12 million.
Good player for torres he can hold the ball up well.

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21 Oct 2010 20:24:30
Ed do you know why pacheco didn't even make the bench? {ed's note - I believe Macca is correct with his post about Pacheco turning up late for training and being punished.}

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21 Oct 2010 20:14:51
Pepe reina, torres have both said playing for roy is like being in the 50s.Torres dosent , wont play under him again.ROY will be scked tonight or tommorow
Trust in me

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21 Oct 2010 20:12:12
I thought he was getting sacked! !
Has anyone heard anything yet

Harry5:)

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21 Oct 2010 20:04:40
Towards the end of the game roy was getting very agitated on the touchline over nothing. could this be a sign that he is about to be sacked because of not winning the game?

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21 Oct 2010 19:53:12
IT REALLY FUSTRATES ME TO SEE HOW LIVERPOOL FANS REACT, SACK THE MANAGER THE SHOUTS ARE. I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN TERRIBLE OF LATE THE WORST I SEEN BUT HE STILL NEEDS TIME SOME HAVE HIS DECISIONS HAVE BEEN BAD I ACCEPT THAT BUT EVERYONE MAKES BAD DECISIONS I PERSONALLY THINK THIS WILL TURN AROUND IF WE GET RID OF HIM NOW IT WOULDNT BE FAIR AND ITS NOT THE LIVERPOOL WAY. BACK THE MANAGER BACK THE TEAM, WHAT HAPPENED TO GIVING PEOPLE TIME ITS A JOKE SOME OF THE COMMENTS ON HERE ARE STUPID LIKE BRING RAFFA BACK COME ON PEOPLE CHATTING ROONEY FOR LIVERPOOL ha HA HE IS HATED AT THIS CLUB AND HE HATES US JUST AS MUCH.

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21 Oct 2010 19:34:39
For me harry redknapp is no more than a car sales man and i would rather have roy evans back than him

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21 Oct 2010 19:32:19
The reason Pacheco is not in the squad is because he turned up 2 hours late for training the other day. .

Macca

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21 Oct 2010 19:31:38
That lavezzi looks a decent player Ed. were we not linked with him before we got Aqualani? {ed's note - I seem to remember we were, don't know why we didn't go for him, he looks much more physically able to cope with the Prem.}

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21 Oct 2010 19:27:04
So it was planned that carra would come off. WTF.
is it coz he wanted to play in roys last game.
Maybe!
Any other ideas anyone?

Now konchesky, so he takes off 2 defenders and brings on 2 defenders. My god hes so attack minded! Lol

Harry5:) {ed's note - that was the most insane thing I have ever seen, you don't change a centre back unless you have to.}

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21 Oct 2010 19:16:56
21 Oct 2010 19:03:40
21 Oct 2010 10:44:15
In reality Inter thrashed Spurs last night. Rafa completely out thought Redknapp tactically. The scoreline was made respectable by 1 very good Spurs player.
But can you imagine if Rafa had taken Liverpool to Inter last season and been beaten in such a manner, what would the West ham, Spurs supporting London TV, Radio and press have said. It just shows how Redknapp is the current media darling and the bias against Liverpool.
Reddknapp is nothing more than a reasonably good manager who can only take a club so far. Benitez on the other hand has an excellent record in European competitions. Yet Redknapp keeps making stupid comments supporting Tom Hicks about the finance he had from Hicks' back pocket.
Both Redknapp Snr and Jnr are both becoming hate figures for Liverpool fans, continually making totally incorrect comments about the club.
The media ought to be looking into why Harry Redknapp and Kevin Bond are regularly seen in a north London branch of WH Smith making regular purchases of Large A4 brown envelopes. I wonder why?
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THE MYSTERY WORLD OF MR HARRY REDKNAPP. CAN'T WAIT FOR THE PETER STORRIE TRIAL TO UNMASK ALL THOSE 'DODGY' DEALS THAT REDKNAPP WAS INVOLVED IN. THE WORD 'BUNG' COMES TO MIND.

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21 Oct 2010 19:07:36
Lol, Ngog is wearing Kelly's shirt. He is obviously ashamed of his first touch aswell.

ChrisE

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21 Oct 2010 19:05:45
21 Oct 2010 19:01:36

Ed i would just like to say i never wanted roy and never will i could say i feel sorry for him but why feel sorry for some one who in my eyes has bit of more than he can chew and now is feeling the stress of his own doing how can you install confidence thruogh the team by buying crabs like poulson i want him gone and as soon as, we carn`t even play the team he would like to in this europe cup because he has messed up the league up won't give the kid a run out pacheco and still insists on playing babbel who should of been gone a year back post this mate thanks

hurt red {ed's note - I agree fully on Babel and Poulsen, neither are even close to good enough for Liverpool.}
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DO YOU THINK RIKJAARD COULD GET SOMETHING MORE OUT OF BABEL? {ed's note - I don't think Babel has any more to give, he can't even control a simple pass, he is lazy and useless.}

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21 Oct 2010 19:03:40
21 Oct 2010 10:44:15
In reality Inter thrashed Spurs last night. Rafa completely out thought Redknapp tactically. The scoreline was made respectable by 1 very good Spurs player.
But can you imagine if Rafa had taken Liverpool to Inter last season and been beaten in such a manner, what would the West ham, Spurs supporting London TV, Radio and press have said. It just shows how Redknapp is the current media darling and the bias against Liverpool.
Reddknapp is nothing more than a reasonably good manager who can only take a club so far. Benitez on the other hand has an excellent record in European competitions. Yet Redknapp keeps making stupid comments supporting Tom Hicks about the finance he had from Hicks' back pocket.
Both Redknapp Snr and Jnr are both becoming hate figures for Liverpool fans, continually making totally incorrect comments about the club.
The media ought to be looking into why Harry Redknapp and Kevin Bond are regularly seen in a north London branch of WH Smith making regular purchases of Large A4 brown envelopes. I wonder why?
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SO BALE HAS BEEN HAVING A GO AT LIVERPOOL FC AND THE CITY TOO HAS HE?
WHAT IS IT WITH REDKNAPP AND HIS SQUAD MAKING UNFAIR AND INCORRECT COMMENTS ABOUT LIVERPOOL?

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21 Oct 2010 18:59:58
21 Oct 2010 18:08:21
Ed- - What do you think of Holloway? {ed's note - I think he is fantastic, he is worth paying to see on his own.}
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I thought most of what he said today is true. What he said about Rooney could be said of Mascherano. {ed's note - that is an excellent point, Mash and Rooney are driven by greed and nothing else.}

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21 Oct 2010 18:52:48
Ed, or anyone, how would you feel about Michael Bradley as a red? Maybe make Americans realize there are clubs besides United? {ed's note - I don't see anything special about him, I would rather give Shelvey the chance to play than bring in a lesser player.}

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21 Oct 2010 18:26:33
I see that my post didn't make it, AGAIN.Look, fellas, if this is how you treat your contributors, please do let me know right now so I'll never waste my time again.I always try to take out some time of my busy schedule and come here, go through the posts, and contribute if I can.And then to be rewarded with such disregard?

I love your site, Ed, and respect you a lot, but I'm not a happy chap right now.This is just NOT on.
Also, I'd like to propose the motion that every editor have a distinguishing feature.A name's a good idea. .like "Ed The Ball's note" who used to fill in for you.

Gracias,
Lombardi Cazorla {ed's note - your posts are being published mate, and each editor does use a slight variation of editor, Editor, ed etc so that you can tell us apart.}

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21 Oct 2010 18:16:30
21 Oct 2010 17:32:39
Pacheco is not even in the squad! roy you have syle, no flair, no clue an hopefully soon no job !

what are your thoughts on this ed? {ed's note - I really don't understand what he is thinking leaving Pacheco out again and again. It is incredibly stupid if you ask me.}

- Again and again I keep saying that Pacheco should be paired alongside Torres. Two spaniards = same language = better communication and the chance to enhance their 'partnership' (so to speak) playing for Spain. Johnson on the right wing and away we go!

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21 Oct 2010 18:08:21
Ed- - What do you think of Holloway? {ed's note - I think he is fantastic, he is worth paying to see on his own.}

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21 Oct 2010 18:02:36
We want Pellegrini! !

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21 Oct 2010 17:55:22
Totaly agree with an earlier post regarding Bale, don't know what he said but I heard he not only slagged the club but the city and the people he should not wear the famous red shirt unless he makes a public apology, but he would be a great plyer for us and he would have some major making up to do.
As for Roy I'll support him until he is gone which honestly I hope is soon he is just not good enough can't pick, Hiddink would be great if not Rikkard.

If Roy played Pacheo more often we might have been nearer the top of the prem.

Hope all the travelling fans get home safe and sound and that whoever was stabbed is not too bad.
Y.N.W.A

Eric The Real Red

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21 Oct 2010 17:51:41
I hope if he plays Babel tonight then he plays up front as a striker, or at worse, wide right . .afterall Roy did say he was prepared to give him a chance.

Play him on the left and he may as well not bother . .playing him on the left isn't giving the player a chance!

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21 Oct 2010 17:50:15
Thought i'd post this before kick-off. i just caught the end of roys press confrence and he was asked about torres leaving. his answear was far to soft, he replied with " i feel if rooney leaves man u, then i would not be supprised if they bid for torres." what a mug, he should be saying we will not sell 1 of the best strikers in the world to our bitter rivals. ed thoughts.
maybe mavinga's comments about roy not playing foreign player could be right, NO PACHECO. what does this lad have to do. but good luck to jonjo i see he's starting

ps hope all the fans get back safe.

always a red {ed's note - I think Roy has made a complete mess of all of his interviews and comments of late. But the last week or so has been an embarrassment, he really has not said the right things at all.}

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21 Oct 2010 17:49:24
Hello ed first things first Roy as a person is prob a nice fella but as a manager of lfc It is a no no. I was one of the fans that said every man needs a chance but some of the comment he is coming out with is just not right. First one: that is the best we have played all season maybe u are right but we have been s* t all season. second one: the statement he has come out with over the last 24hrs about torres talk about feeding the media anyway I am at a lost to who I think should be next manager there is not a lot out there ed maybe frank rajkard would do well I think our luck has got to change soon ed {ed's note - I don't think our luck could get any worse at the moment.}

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21 Oct 2010 17:48:58
To the clown who wrote this:

'WTF does Danny Pacheco have to do to get a game? The one ( only ) thing Benitez did right was bring him here - and now no one wants to give him a proper chance.'

So Rafa didn't sign Torres, alonso and mascherano.? So Rafa didn't win the best champions league final of all time, and an FA cup.? sure it went sour at the end, but u cannot seriously say the one and only thing he did was signing a untried but talented youngster. come on! By the same token, all the fans asking 4 him back, seriously that would be wrong. weve gota move on and start a new chapter.

Hiddink or frank rijkaard would be good.

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21 Oct 2010 17:47:15
If Roy's really leaving- - -Bring Kenny back. Forget Rijkaard- -We need someone who understands and loves our club from the bottom of his heart. If Kenny doesn't turn out to be good enough- - - I say bring in IAN HOLLOWAY! - - - -Anyone seen his press conference?- -If not I encourage you to go see it on Skysports. That's what a FOOTBALL manager should be. ABSOLUTE RESPECT FOR THE MAN.

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21 Oct 2010 17:45:30
I see people on here posting suggestions about who should replace Hodgson if he goes, so I figured I'd sling my 2 cents in too.

What about Martin Jol? From what I remember from his time with Spurs he liked to play the game the right way. He seems, much like Roy, to be a really nice guy too. Not to mention he might have some sway when Luis Suarez or Gregory van der Wiel decide to leave Ajax?

I'm not sure he's the ideal choice but it seems that he's got just about as much going for him as any of the others being mentioned.

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21 Oct 2010 17:44:01
You know i always thought what set us apart from other clubs was our willingness to give managers time but obviously some of us don't value that anymore. Its been a dreadfull 8 games but its is only 8 and people need to remember that. we arn't going to make 4th now anyway whoever takes over but we can at least show the world that we have at least some respect for our managers. c'mon lets give him a fair crack of the whip and show him our support then if still nothing changes he can walk away knowing he's had a fair shot. c'mon he may not be a born n bred scouser but when someone joins our family we stand together!

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21 Oct 2010 17:43:43
Shelvey is starting! Can't wait to see

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21 Oct 2010 17:41:17
Everyone's going on about Rijikaard as possible manager. Do you really want a person like him in charge of our wonderful club? Anybody else remember what he did to Rudi Voller in the World Cup? I'll remind you. He spat on him. Is he to be forgiven, just because he's linked to us? Some things that happen on the pitch are forgivable, spitting on a player, I'm afraid isn't.
Guus Hiddink is THE only man for the job. He doesn't do celebrity footballers. He commands respect, discipline, honesty, hard work and above all, loyalty. Remember that? Some of our players couldn't even spell it, nevermind understand what it meansreply
even voler didn't want to reveal what he said to him on the field to invoke him that way. Rijakard was always known to be a good leader on the field with decent character. if zidan was was a good manager and was to be linked to us , would you say no coz of what he did to materazzi?

Zidane has not been linked he isn't even a manager dweeb

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21 Oct 2010 17:40:50
Omg kine up is rubbish our main threat will be babel cause ngog aint the best his touch is shockin torres needs goals and confidence so i would have played him
napoli will be hard to beat unless we ontop of our game specially with cavani and hamsik attackin poor startin 11 attacking wise and i hope poulsen gets spanked aswell cause im sick of him playin

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21 Oct 2010 17:40:35
TalkSPORT reporting that Hodgson will be sacked after game tonight regardless of result.

Gav the rec

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21 Oct 2010 17:40:28
Babel on the right could be good; he will be able to get past players and hopefully put in some good balls (they can't be worse than Maxi's). Also I hope Jonjo shelvey plays well.

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21 Oct 2010 17:40:21
Just to back runcorn reds rumour up ive heard exactly the same story yesterday. hope its not true about big frank cos friends i have in turkey have stated hes the worst manager thayve had, and don't forget they had souness enuf said

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21 Oct 2010 17:38:17
Goodman harry5 i fecking forgot was early kickoff
king henry ynwa

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21 Oct 2010 17:32:39
Pacheco is not even in the squad! ! roy you have syle, no flair, no clue an hopefully soon no job !

what are your thoughts on this ed ? {ed's note - I really don't understand what he is thinking leaving Pacheco out again and again. It is incredibly stupid if you ask me.}

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21 Oct 2010 17:30:02
The Match is starting, don't forget its an early kick off:

' itv4 - 5.30 - Kick off 6.00 '

harry5:)

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21 Oct 2010 17:26:55
21 Oct 2010 17:09:35

People stop saying we shud get bale, ok hes good but after what he said about liverpool i wish the wind would pick him up by them stupid ears an lift him into a pylon an electrocute the little fukin monkey

how bout you ed?
{Editor's note - He is a very good player}
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[ What did he say about Liverpool? save me lookin it up. lol

harry5:o {ed's note - I am trying to find a link for it, he may be a good player but he needs a good slap!}

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21 Oct 2010 17:25:50
Ed what did bale say about liverpool i can't recall {ed's note - I am trying to find a youtube link, that hasn't been removed, for it. As soon as I do I will put it up on the site.}

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21 Oct 2010 17:19:10
No one was taking anything away from the result against Barcelona in 2007.We did deserve to win the tie but to say Raf outsmarted Rijkaard is way off mark.We went through on goal difference the results were 1-2 0-1 They attacked us for 90 minutes away their goalie carried the ball into his own net.Deco hit the post we dug in and pinched the win. At home we did have chances to win the tie but don't tell me we hung on a little. After gudjohnson scored, they battered us GOOFY HIT THE POST and the lads hung on.Mypoint was we defended great in the tie. nothing to do with Rafa being a superior manager.I prefered rijkaard style to Rafas' that's all i was saying now lets put it to bed.

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21 Oct 2010 17:18:45
Im really scared for our fans safety tonight :(

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21 Oct 2010 17:18:20
No pacheco again! would love to see suso be given a chance also, very bright youngsters at liverpool now lets bring them through. obviously good old woy isn't doing anything about it so lets hope FR or MP will see the talent in these lads!

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21 Oct 2010 17:18:01
21 Oct 2010 16:59:22
Why oh why won't he give Pacheo a game?

Because Roy is blinkered like Raffa was, Pacheco has an abundance of talent that is been wasted.
Unlike all the top managers Roy sets out a team with a negative attitude that plays on the counter attack BORING!
Raffa played this style in his last season and Roy is carrhingvir on, so players like Pacheco find themselves further down the pecking order behind the Poulsons, Lucas, maxi and the spearings of the world.
Pacheco will unfortunatley now ask for move away from the club in January ask Xabi?

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21 Oct 2010 17:17:24
21 Oct 2010 16:51:30
1. hodgson has been told to announce his resignation whatever happens after the Napoli game.
2. Torres, Gerrard and Dalglish have stayed at anfielf to speak to Rijkard who May be the next Liverpool Manager
Gerrard and Tores are there to get them to stay
3. Rijkard to be announced as Liverpool Boss on Friday. . Maybe Saturday.

Dear Ed i was the person who said that liverpool had been taken over when all the saga was going on and nobody believed me. . do you remmember my comments
My name is Lee {ed's note - I can't be sure mate, you don't leave anything in the email field to identify yourself, anyone can sign a name and IP addresses change.}

Didnt I leave exactly the same comments at 12:08 this afternoon?

Runcorn Red!

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21 Oct 2010 17:17:09
When we were a successful team we didn't have a team full of worldbeaters. Whelan, Alan and Ray Kennedy, Phil Neal, Mcmahon, Rush, Aldridge, Thommo, Kevin Mcdonald, David Johnson, Toshack, etc etc.
What we had for many years were good, clever managers who had the respect of the players, had a knowledge of the game, saw players who could fit into what they were trying to do, created a system that worked.
Why on earth do we need to go to South America and Europe to spend silly money on average players who, as well as being average, then need to get used to English football. What happened to picking up gems from the youth team, lower divisions, Scotland and Ireland like we used to.
A clever manager is all we need again, we have the nucleus of not a bad side. Who better than Kenny? As NESV have said, they are not Sheiks so we have to be wise and clever with our spending.
Ed, Who would you trust with what money we end up having. A winner like Kenny or Mr mid table mentality Woy? And what player who knows anything about our history wouldn't die for the chance of playing under a legend. {ed's note - I don't want either in charge mate, I don't think either will win us the league.}

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21 Oct 2010 17:15:45
I think Roy's comments coupled with the squad selection for tonight's game is a pretty good indication that even he thinks his position is in jeopardy.

Normally the old, "one game at a time", "our next game is the only game of importance" chestnuts lyrically roll of the tongue, however not Roy, call it being honest, frank or even stupid, he openingly declares that Sunday's game is more important, and while it is probably true, when have you ever publicly heard a manager blantantly dismiss a game as virtually non important as he did with tonight's game?

Sorry Roy, the Liverpool way and ethos is that every game is important, not just the game that may or may not cost you your job!

Furthermore, as a manager under pressure, I don't think you should be alienating the fans with comments made to the press, his reply to the Torres and Manchester United question was more about what he didn't say rather then what he did actually say. Knowing the bitter rivalry between the two clubs and supporters, Roy should have laid down a marker and categorically stated Torres is definitely not for sale, and certainly not to arguably our fiercest rivals!

Roy I will support you, as do alot of fans, however if you continue to make comments (not), and team decisions as of this week, then even the loyalist of fans may have to reasses ones support for you!

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21 Oct 2010 17:14:13
Anybody seen the lineups? looking forward to seeing shelvey but pacheco is not even on the bench. . What is going on?

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21 Oct 2010 17:11:09
Do you want this to be roys last game for liverpool fc tonight
yes believable no unbelievable
timmo lfc

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21 Oct 2010 17:06:01
". .What I fail to understand is why they can't get behind the manager and the team. ."

Well, it's easy, actually.I'll start by saying that some of us knew from the outset that Roy wasn't good enough for Liverpool.Having observed his over 30 year career (not a measly 38 games, or a Europa run), the nature and standing of the clubes he managed;his philosophy, methodology, and flexibility (or lack thereof), it was never going to work.Roy, like his good friend Houllier, was a disciple of the Allen Wade system, and that was something Liverpool DIDN'T need.

His modus operandi, as the man himself proudly avowed, indeed took him to Malmo and the host of other clubs that he mentioned.And boy did he do good for himself there.
However, Liverpool is a completely different proposition altogether.

The stature of the clube;the sky-high expectations and pressures;football of the highest quality and elegance;tactical nous and intelligence;flexibility, adaptability and swiftness of decision-making;patience and understanding as regards the youth;winning mentality and personality etc.Roy meets virtually none of the above.

He's always managed small clubes with moderate to low expectations in inferior leagues.He's evolved to be an ultradefensive manager who favours "not losing" as opposed to "going for the win".He'll set his team up to make it difficult for the opposition to break it down, than go out there and break the opposition itself (anyone remember how Fulham shut up shop at Anfield?Typical Roy approach).

Even Murphy and Gera have come out and spoken of how they now enjoy their football under Hughes.Murphy even mentioned how Roy is so one-dimensional;he'll play the same players, use the same tactics. .an hope that it comes off.

So it then stood to reason that the marriage between Liverpool (a team that became famous for not only it's glory, but also the manner with which it was achieved:the fluency, flair, elegance and offensive nature of the breathtaking football that was played) and Roy the Allen Wade disciple, was an absolute NON-STARTER.

And up to this point, he's proven us right.Many have shocked by the tactics and formations, and completely appalled Roy's apparent satisfaction with draws and crappy displays.Well, not me.I expected all of this.

He's done nothing to justify the support people are calling for, but further given more reasons why he shouldn't have got the job, and why he should leave NOW before the damage done gets irreparable. People can fault Torres and co all they want, bottom line is that they're being coached wrongly.If people can't see that, I've got to if they football people at all.

Roy is just at the wrong clube. .and it's showing.Me personally, I'm sorry Ed, but I can't support the bloke.I appreciate what your trying to do, but the reality is that a some not so smart guy took a car, put it into the ocean and tried driving it there.Logically, the car sunk faster, than he could say Jack Robinson.

Was it the ocean's fault the car sank?By the no means.Was it the car's own fault that it sank?Hell NO!
You decide yourself who the buck stops with and let me know, okay Ed?

Gracias,
Lombardi Cazorla

ps:I hope this one gets published.My last one wasn't.This is the real Lombardi, not naughty younger brother.
Regards.

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21 Oct 2010 17:05:18
Everyone's going on about Rijikaard as possible manager. Do you really want a person like him in charge of our wonderful club? Anybody else remember what he did to Rudi Voller in the World Cup? I'll remind you. He spat on him. Is he to be forgiven, just because he's linked to us? Some things that happen on the pitch are forgivable, spitting on a player, I'm afraid isn't.
Guus Hiddink is THE only man for the job. He doesn't do celebrity footballers. He commands respect, discipline, honesty, hard work and above all, loyalty. Remember that? Some of our players couldn't even spell it, nevermind understand what it meansreply
even voler didn't want to reveal what he said to him on the field to invoke him that way. Rijakard was always known to be a good leader on the field with decent character. if zidan was was a good manager and was to be linked to us , would you say no coz of what he did to materazzi?

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21 Oct 2010 16:59:26
LIVERPOOL TEAM TONIGHT
Reina;
Kelly, Carragher, Skrtel, Konchesky;
Poulsen, Spearing;
Shelvey
Babel, Jovanovic;
Ngog.

LADDERS

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21 Oct 2010 16:59:22
Why oh why won't he give Pacheo a game??

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21 Oct 2010 16:54:59
- -BREAKING-NEWS- -LFC-GLOBE- -

FRANK RIJKAARD IS IN POLE POSITION FOR THE LIVERPOOL JOB, AHEAD OF MANUEL PELLEGRINI, LFC GLOBE UNDERSTANDS.

[Personally i'm confused.this has just been released in the last few minutes. but its strange because Rijkaard's agent has stated about an hour ago there has been no contact.
Maybe its a cover up (well i hope so)

also no pacheco again 'RIDICULAS'.

harry5:|

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21 Oct 2010 16:54:40
Ed would you like the kids to be given a chance tonite i would go with

. . . . . . . .reina. . . . . . .

kelly. . . .skrtel. . .wilson. . .konk.

amoo. . .meireles. . shelvey. . babel.

. . . . .jova. . . .ngog. . .

we have a good mix of youth and senior players but i think it would do amoo, shelvey the world of good to get some game time and what was the point in buying wilso if we aint going to [lay him lets give them a go {ed's note - Amoo didn't do himself any favours with his performance against Blackburn in the last reserve match, I can't see him getting a chance. On the other hand Mavinga looked very good at both centre half and left back and I would put him just ahead of Wilson myself and Pacheco on the right instead of Amoo. Apart from that I like your team.}

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21 Oct 2010 16:53:15
When do you imagine a new manager will be appointed? Who do you think this is likely to be?

Cheers Ed
Ellis T {ed's note - I think it will be done as quickly as possible, I don't expect to see Roy in place after the weekend and if a deal can be done quickly enough, not even then. I am 99.999999999% sure that Rijkaard has spoken to someone representing Liverpool, despite the denials. He is the only person I am sure of in the frame so I would have to go with him, but I don't know who else is in the frame for definite.}

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21 Oct 2010 16:52:50
Please, please, please stop saying O'Neill. . he has done nothing of note and is no better than roy.
Im still laughing at the chap who wants MoN and then suggests we get mexes, huntellar, diarra. . none of them would be remotely interested in working with MoN in fact they probably never heard of him.
As for the guys saying no to rijkard because he spat at voller. He probably was provoked, but jesus come up with a better argument than that for not selecting him.

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21 Oct 2010 16:52:40
WTF does Danny Pacheco have to do to get a game? The one ( only ) thing Benitez did right was bring him here - and now no one wants to give him a proper chance.

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21 Oct 2010 16:51:30
1. hodgson has been told to announce his resignation whatever happens after the Napoli game.
2. Torres, Gerrard and Dalglish have stayed at anfielf to speak to Rijkard who May be the next Liverpool Manager
Gerrard and Tores are there to get them to stay
3. Rijkard to be announced as Liverpool Boss on Friday. . Maybe Saturday.

Dear Ed i was the person who said that liverpool had been taken over when all the saga was going on and nobody believed me. . do you remmember my comments
My name is Lee {ed's note - I can't be sure mate, you don't leave anything in the email field to identify yourself, anyone can sign a name and IP addresses change.}

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21 Oct 2010 16:50:33
I have it on good authority that RH will resign after tonights game regardless of the result.
Dalglish is currently speaking to Riikaard and Oniell and a decision will be made by Sunday.

RH was never the right choice for us - a nice guy yes but for me unable to command the respect a manager of LFC deserves.

Torres & Gerrard should both do the decent thing and go in January [this should give us approx £70million] their body language states the inevatible and as good a servant they have been for us its time for them both to move on.

Who should be let go:Nando, Gerrard, Poulsen, Lucas, Babel, Jovanovic, Agger[he will leave anyway], Spearing, Maxi, Ngog

We should have at least £120 million to spend plus the money from Henry = £150 million

More tha nenough to strengthen the squad

Ins - Bale, Mata, Turan, Dann, Toivenen, Ashley Young, Adebayor or Tevez

Whatever happens im keeping the faith and backing the current lot to get us out of this mess were in.

In the words of the fabulous DREAM

"Thiiiings, can only get beeetterrrrrrrrrr"

YNWA {ed's note - I wish Liverpool fans would stop suggesting Bale, him and Lennon aren't fit to wear the shirt after their little outburst against the city, its people and the club.}

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21 Oct 2010 16:47:08
Rijkaard in Hodgson out! Its about time we Liverpool fans were introduced to attack-minded 'entertaining football, for too many years have we played not to get beat and not for the win. Rijkaards total football is exactly what we need. Id like to see the likes off; Banega/ Arda/ Mata/ Taiwo don the red of Anfield.

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21 Oct 2010 16:44:50
This is roy's last game tonight hope he will finnish on a win . . new boss? i think king kenny . . . . .timmo lfc

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21 Oct 2010 16:43:35

I have heard a few things on the grapevine, I'm not saying that they are true but they are interesting. Firstly, bookies have suspended betting on Frank Rijkaard becoming Liverpool manager. Second, the senior players being "rested" tonight are staying behind to talk to the owners etc and Dalglish about the managerial issues and the board are going to meet with Rijkaard. And finally, Reina says that he wants to leave if Hodgson stays. .

While I would have loved to have Rijkaard in the summer instead of Hodgson, it will take another "trasitional period" of bad results if we get another manager now. When he arrived at Barca, he starded off by sinking them to the relegation zone and the fans wanted him sacked. He obviously turned it around and won two leagues and a Champions League. If he gets the Liverpool job, it will be probable that our situation will not improve for a while.

So. . our choice is that we either hope that Hodgson improves or we take a further plunge with a new manager and hope he turns it around too. I hope that we do get Rijkaard but knowing that we will finish in a poor position this year but that when Rijkaard gets the team playing the way he wants, we will have a team worthy of Liverpool Football Club.

YNWA

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21 Oct 2010 16:41:16
I don't think Rijkaard is the best option for LFC. . His teams play with flair and it's attracting to watch, but he's not good technically and was proven at Barca he can't handle the egos of big players with Ronaldinho and Eto'o both running amok!
I think Hiddink would be awesome, but has recently took the Turkey job and don't think we could attract him in our current state.
I hope we don't make any rash decisions or bring in manager just because they're available. This will mean another sacking a few months down the line and this is just not the liverpool way! Either way Hodgeson has to leave and should do the best thing and resign. . Other teams who were supposed to be challenging like Chelsea, ManU, ManC, Arsenal and Spurs must be looking as us and laughing!
As far as transfers go in Jan, I can't see us being given a huge kitty. . Maybe £20m plus sales! We can probably only get a striker and maybe winger for that. I think we'll still be looking for available players, cheap squad players and loans just to give us more depth.
Realistic league position I'd say 6-9th this season at best

x Liverpool for life x

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21 Oct 2010 16:40:10
21 Oct 2010 16:33:16
Team for tonight

reina - correct
kelly - incorrect, Carragher
carra - incorrect Kyrgiakos
skrtel - correct
aurelio - incorrect Konchesky
babel - correct
poulsen - correct
spearing - correct
jovanovic - correct
cole - correct
ngog - correct

Let's see who is right.

Score 2-0 Napoli.

KBL

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21 Oct 2010 16:39:19
I'm not going to take a stab in the dark & guess who the manager will be as a lot of you are doing. Some say you have so called "contacts", I'm not convinced. The way I look at it is Riikard has quit, Koeman has come out & said "I'd love to manage in England, but it would have to be a top side or a side that's ambitious." reading between the lines it seems LFC are sounding out candidates around Europe. With the board resigning, Roy is now a fish in a barrel. It's not a question of if, but when the trigger is pulled.

Gav the Red

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21 Oct 2010 16:39:11
I was not pleased when Hodgson was appointed manager. i didn't think he was good then and i certainly don't think he's good enough now.

However if we are to replace him, i have seen one individual who has the pedigree to bring glory's back to this club. He has all the right credentials, he's wanted by all the top european teams. His name?

Rafa Benitez

Bob the Red

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21 Oct 2010 16:33:16
Team for tonight

reina
kelly
carra
skrtel
aurelio
babel
poulsen
spearing
jovanovic
cole
ngog

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21 Oct 2010 16:29:11
Not a rumour but in response to a number of rumours/ questions asked on the rumour page:

Barcelona did beat us 1-0 in the return leg (with Rijkaard in charge) and we was holding on a little towards the end due to only having a one goal lead however we missed about 20 good opportunities that night and Rijkard even stated the result did not reflect the game.

Personally I think he would be a better appointment than Hodgson but not the answer.

Martin O'Neill in my opinion wouldn't motivate the types of players we want at our football club; nor do I want to see our back 4 consist of 4 Centre Backs and our midfield with 3 or 4 wingers.

Pelligrini in my opinion would be the best option; very good record prior to real Madrid; managed ego's at real madrid whilst not even buying the players - the president bought them!

In terms of the lists of players being bought in January then we will be lucky to get 3 or 4 at most; it's a bad time to buy (with teams competing at the top of their leagues or in European competition) and some of the figures/ values quoted for our underperforming players are far to high (when selling players against their will then u have to consider the payment of the transfer due to them and also what bonuses - i.e. loyalty that need paying up) - if we sell 4 players for £40m we will be lucky to see £35m of that to re-invest.

Finally. (honest). .

A few years ago (pretty much 2006 - 2009) we were creating chances for fun and not always putting these away, but a few games back Jay spearing was in centre midfield with the ball putting his hands up asking the other players for options to play a ball to them (i.e. there was no movement or they weren't making space); the players don't believe in the tactics they are playing and the manager cannot motivate/ train them in these - so thanks Roy but for that reason I'm out - please let someone get the opportunity to buy players other than him in January.

Hoola

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21 Oct 2010 16:28:15
The new owners will not sack Roy before January - But it will, regardless of any improvement, happen.

Roy is not their choice and they are fully aware that to start re-building the clubs brand and image, plus attract top quality players, they need a top quality name, easily recognisable world wide (even by Americans! !)

So, do not expect big money to be made available in January (this WILL come in the summer) - Our BIG signing will be the new manager - This means they are expecting to pay 'big' compensation to someone.

The list of possibles is vast but my guess he currently manages in Spain plus, expect a certain Mr David Beckham to be employed as a player / coach.

He is well known (and despite not playing there for some time), well liked by the yanks and he is seen as an immediate 'in' to the America's and Asian markets

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21 Oct 2010 16:27:03
Fair enough Ed. . I know your saying there is an anti roy campaign but surly you can understand why? When he was appointed i thought great english manager we can get behind and i was even more excited watching us play raboznitki there was free flowing football and a touch of class i havnt seen in a long time (granted very week oppisition) but i thought this would be the style of play roy would addopt, Unfortunatly Roy has decided liverpool should not play football any more (Hence dissagreement with Agger) His tactics are a shambles and all the players seem lost on the field. . Yes the players have a big responsibilty but if you don't know what your role is how are you meant to be able to play? You cant, This is entirly down to the manager he has to get the players knowing what is expected of them, I think roy is at a loss of how he wants the team to play and that's not acceptable. I have alot of respect for roy but i do think this was one hell of a jump for him and unfortantly he didn't land. We need a manager who knows exactly how the team should set up and exactly how he wants them to play. I would love hiddink but that's not likly but a manager who demands respect and knows how he wants to play will do just fine for me {ed's note - different editor, but I was willing to give Roy time to sort out those problems until after the Derby. His comments afterwards were embarrassing and not what should be expected of a Liverpool manager, and he has compounded it with the statement he gave yesterday about Torres. He has not just failed to show any sign of progress on the pitch, he has dragged us down off it, in my opinion, as well. No wonder the players aren't fired up on the pitch if his team talks are at the same standard as his comments.}

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21 Oct 2010 16:23:30
Honestly those of you who are calling for Roys head are pathetic . With all that has gone on at our great club , is it any wonder we are where we are .
Two years ago we finished 2nd to MU after a serious push for the title , and what do the people in charge do? Sell Sell Sell .Rafa for all his tactical knowledge has no man management skills whatsoever.(Keane Alonso) to name but 2 .And as for Dumb and Dumber former owners breaking every promise they ever made To Fans and Players . Is it any wonder whats left of our squad is in any fit mental state.
I'm not saying i agreed with Roys appointment .But he is now the man in charge 7 games into a premiership season .No one out there would be able to do a much better job at this stage of thier tenure.
Give it time for the players to gel .

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21 Oct 2010 16:21:52
Not a rumour just a statement of disgust.

did no one tell the Italians that English football had grown up since the dark days of football violence.

these thugs are attacking dads with there kids and tourists its disgusting, napoli should be banned from European football! simples!

ST

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21 Oct 2010 16:20:31
How bout the valencia coach (forget his name), he plays attacking football

ed your thoughts ? {ed's note - Unai Emery? I have been very impressed with Valencia this season, they do look decent. If he could bring Joaquin, Mata and Banega with him I would defo appoint him!}

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21 Oct 2010 16:19:03
Who wud you play tonite ed ?

{Editor's Note: I am afraid I don't have time to think about it right now.}

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21 Oct 2010 16:17:12
Just in!
Rijkaard's agent has said that Liverpool havent approached or contacted Rijkaard.
Source: Sky Sports News
Dan

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21 Oct 2010 16:15:08
Rijkaards agent denys contact with liverpool so whos coming in by weekend then ed? Your sources seem pretty convinced hodgson will be gone by then. . can you clear this up for me?

{Editor's Note: Different editors have different opinions on when and even if Roy will leave.}

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21 Oct 2010 16:06:54
To oliver.
nesv will not leave it untill christmas to terminate roys contract, as that gives any new manager no time to access the squad, and see which players are not up to it, and who is. different players will play differently under different managers, some players need an arm around them and told the right things to go out and perform, i personally believe with the correct man management ryan babel cud be a quaility player, but needs the confidence of his manager, much like bent, when he moved from spurs to sunderland. any manager needs to be brought in sooner rather than later, and regardless of results be backed by the board. i think had the team been playing well but been a bit unlucky with the results, much like everton then we would not be talking of roy getting the sack. but the performances have been awfull , and to then come out and say after losing in front of the owners 2-0 to everton, he thinks that's the best we have played since he has been there, after be in run ragged, was proberly the begining of the end for him. roy doesn't seem to be able to get them to play together, there seems to be infighting between players, and when your down the bottom you need everyone to pull together and be a team! and to do that they need to each buy in to what roy preeches and they clearly dont! please can you post this on the rumours page, and do you agree with that ed?

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21 Oct 2010 16:03:53
For me, Torres needs a striker up front to support him(look how well he plays alongside Dave Villa for Spain). For this there are two solutions to this; Aguero or Llorente. Personally I would go for Llorente, as he is a target man and scores goals. Also, imagine the chant- Fernando Torres liverpool's number. . Na na na na na na na na na!

Or, if Torres does go in January, buy both! It would be like an even better version of Defoe and Crouch.

P.s Xabi come back and save us!

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21 Oct 2010 15:58:32
Recent sky sport article says:

Frank Rijkaard's agent insists they have not been approached by Liverpool about possibly replacing Roy Hodgson at Anfield.

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21 Oct 2010 15:54:37
Don't know how much of this is true but in anfield today and heard there might be something in the works with Rooney and a pre contract. Hope this isn't true.

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21 Oct 2010 15:53:03
Just heard on Irish radio that reports coming out of anfield that Rijkaard was spotted at Melwood this morning, just wondering if anyone else has heard anything along these lines and it seems William Hill have stopped taking bets on Hodgson been next manager sacked i hope hes sacked not sure who to replace him with.Ed have any information to whats happening? Anything concrete not bulls* t .

YNWA!

{Editor's Note: Ugly rumours.}

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21 Oct 2010 15:48:17
Dear ed

may i respectfully ask why you havent posted my reply to your comments regarding RH being a hate figure?

As far as i am aware i wasnt abusive or disrespectful

chris 1

{Editor's Note: They are published somewhere above or below. It was only that there were no Eds to update the site for the past hour. I would not have not posted because you disagreed with me - but you must admit there is a mass of anti-Roy post here. H&G were hate figures until they went - now Roy is, which is why people are calling for Rafa to return.}

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21 Oct 2010 15:41:43
@ 21 Oct 2010 14:21:15 Liverpool Rumours "Someone tell me where these rumours about Roy are coming from. I have seen nothing on any website or twitter saying anything like he's gonna resign after tonights game. I think the fans should concentrate on supporting the team on the pitch. trust the new owners to make the right decisions YNWA! "

This afternoon I have again been back to my relative in Anfield admin and again she says the same as she said this mornin - that there is nothing other than "coffee corner" gossip and everything else is carrying on as normal. It's either a rumour that has gathered it's own steam, spooked the bookies causing them to slash odds which in turn has given the rumour more legs and with Rijkaard quitting given it even more legs or it's not being spoken about outside of Board level.

RED LENIN
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21 Oct 2010 15:41:22
"21 Oct 2010 14:16:59

This obsession with arda turan is becoming very tiresome now, how many people watch turkish football week in week out?my guess is not many, I recently returned from a holiday in turkey and got talking to a gala fan who said turan was an average player in an average league an wouldn't be able to cope physically in england, football."

I think the reason is because he's desperate to play for us. We've got some great players who aren't putting in the work, perhaps some feel there are worse things to try than average players who'll give 100%. The Liverpool of old always had a few less than stellar players, but they always gave their all, which is what a lot of fans want to see, myself included. I can forgive a team that loses when they've run themselves into the ground, i cannot do so for players with their hands on their hips looking at others to cover for them. I'd sign him tomorrow, average or not, you don't have to be the world's best to close down your opponents properly or try hard. I'd sign pride and effort over sporadic potential skill any day.

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21 Oct 2010 15:37:44
I don't see why everyone is slating Martin O'Neill. The guy has done wonders at every club he has been at and achieved relative success with each of those clubs on a small budget. He also is also an excellent man manager and has always managed to get the players to play for him and each other. I admit he doesn't employ the most attractive tactics but we need someone who can get us back to the top six with the players we have and then build from there. Press believe if you agree.

I have also heard from a cousin of mine with connections in Anfield that Torres would never choose to go to United as he loves the Liverpool fans too much.

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21 Oct 2010 15:35:32
I was out with glen johnson last nite at panam in town where the mobos was gettin held he told me that woy will still be in charge even if they lose the next 3 games all the players like his play. to prove i was with him i have a picture of him talkin to me and a picture of him getting pushed over by the bouncers for being a idiot

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21 Oct 2010 15:32:47
Roy is definitely not the man for us his record while not terrible is not that of a champion which beg's the question why he was appointed in the first place for being an all around nice guy, who care's! He is a small club manager at best pointed best by his Inability to slap down comment's from sir! His admiration for Alex ferguson is nothing short of pathetic it is honestly like a school child sucking up to a headmaster in hope that he will be seen as the best boy! Is this what we want at our club?

Our performances are disjointed the lack of any cohesion and I can not see how he has moved our team on or given any passion on or off the pitch. While I was never rafas biggest fan I would much rather have him back. Why is it the last 3 manager's (4 including phil big nose thompson) have all been primarily defensive manager's. In the last 5 year's the best I remember Liverpool playing has been when rafa let them off the leash to attack, Real Madrid game, the end of '08, '09 season when we came so close.

We must have Rjikard he is the only one who can return us to our pass and move philosophy, he is a transformational manager he done it with barca he has the pedigree to do it for us.

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21 Oct 2010 15:32:13
Everyone's going on about Rijikaard as possible manager. Do you really want a person like him in charge of our wonderful club? Anybody else remember what he did to Rudi Voller in the World Cup? I'll remind you. He spat on him. Is he to be forgiven, just because he's linked to us? Some things that happen on the pitch are forgivable, spitting on a player, I'm afraid isn't.
Guus Hiddink is THE only man for the job. He doesn't do celebrity footballers. He commands respect, discipline, honesty, hard work and above all, loyalty. Remember that? Some of our players couldn't even spell it, nevermind understand what it means.

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21 Oct 2010 15:32:12
Just to get all ur facts straight roy won't be going anywere soon trust me on this one
john

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21 Oct 2010 15:28:43
Right then lads, are we gonna get behind the team tonite or just slag em off now, during and after the game? ?? come on boys lets give it a break now and get behind whoever is in charge (Roy) all the players who will be lucky enough to pull the red jersey on! ! i think this fan thing is easy, i know its diffucult for some but lets support the team (think & thin) and give the man in the hot seat and ALL the players all the faith we can muster. A few good performances and the results will start to come. I think at some point something will click and it will come good. fingers crossed! !

matty b

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21 Oct 2010 15:28:14
Rijkaard as a great record in football a Rolls Royce of a player won 2 euopean cups 1 champions league .Managed by the Best.At 37 Went to the euro 2000 as manager with national team and was beaten in the semi final on penalties to Italy.World coach of the year 2006 2 La ligas' 1 champions league.Played attacking football as a player and manager.Some people would rather have Roy to stay ah well its all about opinions.

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21 Oct 2010 15:26:38
I think Martin O'Neil would be IDEAL for Liverpool, the time is right. Get in O'neil and re-stucture;

Philip Mexes in
Lassana Diarra in
Giovanni Dos Santos in
Huntelaar in
Pablo Aimar in

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21 Oct 2010 15:22:43
The right man for the Liverpool manager job is Rafa Benitez.

I know he is disliked by many LFC supporters, but i am not one, i recognise his ability and i believe he is the best tactitioner in the game, he had mourinho's head spinning with a mediocre squad compared to chelsea's firepower. He won us the champions league with Houllier's squad, and almost won it again with his own 2 years later.

He is the reason why we were so close to winning the title 2 seasons ago and its a shame that he was forced out of the club.

Yes, he made many wrong decisions in the transfer market, what people must remember is since his arrival at Liverpool he had never the opportunity to sign 3, 4, 5 £20m players, like utd, chelsea.

Torres was the only one, Keane was not £20m and was not Rafa's signing. other than that, Alonso £10m, Garcia £6m, Benayoun £5m, Arbeloa £5m, Agger £7m have all been fantastic signings for mediocre prices.

Wish Rafa was still here with NESV.

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21 Oct 2010 15:13:56
My last post was a bit too dramatic and emo, i agree. I do have bags of respect for hodgson and calling him a clown was taking it a step too far, so my apologies. But if i had to choose between rafa and roy at the moment, id choose rafa. Not because i want him back(hell no!) but because he would be getting better results. Seriously do you people really think we'd be 19th in the league, losing to northampton and blackpool, etc? I was never a fan of rafa, but id rather have him in there than roy.
Red bl00ded!

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21 Oct 2010 15:12:55
Suggestion on twitter. Riijkaard & Ten Cate is good but Riijkaard on his own is bad. Ten Cate was with Avram Grant at Chelsea when they got to the CL final. Also had some kind of bust up with Terry (not a bad thing!). Warming to idea but to go forward we need the world's best and they're all in current employment.

GS

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21 Oct 2010 15:06:28
If there is a choice between pellegrini and rijkaard i would take pellegrini simply because of the way he handled all those mega egos in madrid while knowing all along that he'd be sacked if he doesn't win them the title. 96 points says it all really. Plus we have a good chance of getting a certain alexis sanchez then :-)
onto tonight's game the best i can hope for is a draw but i think it will be 2-1 to napoli. I'd be surprised if we win. Hope shelvey, kelly and pacheco start. What's your prediction for tonight Ed?

{Editor's Note: 3-2 to Liverpool.}


Lol have you had a couple of pints over lunch Ed? Liverpool to score 3 goals. I'd love to see it but having watched our previous games I very much doubt it

RedDan

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21 Oct 2010 15:06:22
To be honest I didn't want Woy but when he first came in he tried to clear some of the rubbish ie Insua. He was unlucky that Masch wanted to go but his signings have been awful. Poulsen was not needed we've already got a really awful Lucas to play in that position, Konchesky is not good enough and that was highlighted by the fact Seamus Coleman made him look awful on Sunday. Meireles - why sign him? We've already got Cole, Gerrard and Aquilani who want to play in that position so not needed. Striker was always a priority so the money used on Meireles should've been used for a striker not leaving it until the last minute and trying to do a swap deal for Carlton 'Chelsea reject' Cole.
The other thing is that he has got most games tactically wrong, say what you want about Rafa but he very rarely got it tactically wrong.

djalminha

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21 Oct 2010 15:05:09
Finding a good manager is just the same as finding a good player - it takes patience. simply looking for a quick fix and settling for whoever is available with a half decent reputation is not the answer. My advise to liverpool board is to get the right man even if that means waiting till may or longer. the quick fix is very often costly in the long term. if roy must go then let kenny take the wheel. ultimatly the managers that are easy to get are not worth having as with anything in life, JRC

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21 Oct 2010 15:03:37
So you want passion on the touch line and in the dressing room? why not Martin O'Neill ?

Because he plays people out of the normal positions ie Carlos Cuellar, bought from Rangers where he played as centre back MON put him at right back.

Haven't we had enough of players not playing in the right positions?

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21 Oct 2010 14:54:42
Just seen the top scorers in all comps this season. Anelka is 1st with 8 and DAVID N'GOG is 2nd with 7 GET HIM PLAYING!

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21 Oct 2010 14:50:29
21 Oct 2010 12:59:46
I know this is a little late but from what im hearing Rafa was forced out. The players ie Torres and Gerrard didn't want him to go hence lack/ loss of form now under Hodgson. Rafa was told to keep quiet and did until the Previous regime where thrown out last week, then, Low and behold Rafa makes a comment(slightly cryptic admittidly) that the dimmise of LFC was not down to him but rather the managing director that was installed by H&G. Having made this comment, not 24 hours later would you believe it, the managing director Christian Purslow stepped down from his post.
So to summarise, Rafa was forced out, the reason for the demise of LFC was down to H&G&CP, and now the players won't play well for RH. IN RAFA WE TRUST! !
ABS 1984 {ed's note - that is funny! Nice one mate, I am sure you might even find someone who believes this rubbish and forgets that the players had turned on Rafa. . .}

Ed i aint denying that Rafa made some shocking signings(especially players from Italian leagues-when will they learn!) but he was a great manager for our illustrious club. Im not saying we should re-install him cus that would be a backward step, what im saying is that he should not be blamed for what went wrong at liverpool. i bet if you asked the fans now the magority would say the same and that he should have been kept on. My money is on Rijkard but it was before we got Hodgson so i could well be wrong.

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21 Oct 2010 14:45:42
We beat Barcelona on away goals, when arbeloa had a storming 2 games against messi. I wouldn't say Rafa outsmarted him, as i recall we were hanging on at the end of that anfield tie.

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21 Oct 2010 14:45:18
To oliver

You make very good points about compensation, about appointing a manager etc, about having the same players for whomever comes in.

However, possibly some other things to consider, roy was appointed by the board, not nesv. and i can't believe for one moment that roy wasnt aware of the possiblity that nesv would want their own man in place.
Also i don't think anyone really expected roy to be quite this bad. our worst start to a season since 1928 (if my maths is right)
Your point about the same players for whomever comes in. well mostly yes, but go back one, two seasons ago and those same players did as the name implied. they played! for whatever reason they certainly are not doing this under roy.

The main point i think is that we have a one time chance to turn things round for the future. with a start to the season like this do you really think that nesv are going to trust roy with whatever cash they want to plough into the team.

chris 1


I hear you Chris, but the main problem is that the board are supposed to be educated on Football matters, while NESV are not. That's why I believe they will keep Roy on for at least until January before advising Henry to sack him. Even if results do pick up, Roy is a dead man walking. However, the board that appointed Roy a forthnight ago will not give him the boot until he has completely shown that he is not fit for the club (I believe he has already!). Roy won't spend any NESV money, but expect a lot of action in January i.e. new manager anouncement along with a few signings at the very same moment. Maybe Rijkaard is talking to players informally as we speak.


Olivier

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21 Oct 2010 14:41:32
So you want passion on the touch line and in the dressing room? why not Martin O'Neill ?

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21 Oct 2010 14:39:29
Please stop asking for either Rikard or Oneill too be Liverpool manager id rather keep Hodgson(whom is not up too the task i agree). Neither of these two would be any good for us, get king Kenny till we are able too get Hiddink. Ed agree?
REDDAN

{Editor's Note: I agree.}

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21 Oct 2010 14:35:02
"21 Oct 2010 13:22:51
The future managerial make-up of Liverpool will take shape over the next week. John W Henry, Thomas Werner, and Larry Lucchino are the men in charge of LFC.Joe Januszewski will become the new CEO, working alongside Brian Barwick. Frank Rikjaard has been approached about becoming new manager, bringing Johan Neeskens and Henk Ten Cate as his assistants. Sammy Lee will be offered a coaching role. Furthermore Txiki Begiristain has been approached with a view to working alongside Kenny Dalglish as a sporting director. Kenny will have a greater role in the club. Ian Rush and Phil Thompson have been approached to join the coaching staff on a part-time basis (Phil will still be able to stay on a Sky Sports)"

This sounds all good apart from the Sammy Lee part. To be honest I feel he should be out of the door before any of the other management team. He is just a yes man and has never filled Paco's boots!

Ledgend of the club but he has no place in the dugout!

We need a strong personality behind the manager who will disagree with him when they see fit. It appears that only the players have been doing this recently and thus causing more problems!

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21 Oct 2010 14:25:31
What I don't understand .....

{Editor's Note: Submitting vthe same post over and over again, even once it has been posted is not necessary.}

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21 Oct 2010 14:21:15
Someone tell me where these rumours about Roy are coming from. I have seen nothing on any website or twitter saying anything like he's gonna resign after tonights game. I think the fans should concentrate on supporting the team on the pitch. trust the new owners to make the right decisions YNWA! !

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21 Oct 2010 14:17:56
Show roy a little respect? What has he done to deserve it? Roy is a clown. And im pretty sure he's a manc fan. Why else would he be playing poulsen who was a reserve player for 7th placed juve in serie a last year? Or why would he be playing one of portugal's best central mids on the right wing? Why would he think that losing to EVERTON, yes EVERTON was our best performance thus far? I seriously think that roy doesn't want us to win a game and i think some people will agree with me. Never thought id say it but i wish rafa was back. At least he had some balls unlike that clown who is completely sackless and scared s* tless by fergie.
Red bl00ded!"

The reason why you show him some respect is because he is OUR manager. I think the time is right for him to be replaced, but to call him a clown who's intentionally sabotaging our chances is the kind of knee-jerk hyperbole that this club has usually managed to stay clear from. He has made mistakes, but personal insults as well as others ridiculing a minor speech impediment are the sort of pointless attacks that help no one. The club may be falling, but from some comments i've seen so is the quality of the fanbase. We've always disagreed with managers, but we've never sunk so low as to bombard them with ridicule. Treat a couple more mangers like this and we'll be lucky to attract someone of Hodgson's stature.

Red bl00ded - all the things you are saying about Roy are correct which is why we agree on the fact that he should go but he is the manager and for whatever the reason thinks what he is doing is correct. The results are proof that he is wrong ( not only the end result of the game but how we play the game ). But he is still Liverpool manager and I am sure he is doing his best. Lets just hope NESV realise that our great club deserve better.

EST.1892

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21 Oct 2010 14:09:49
Why on earth is everyone raving about Rijkaard?!

Someone used the term ''commands respect''. Ha. When he left Barcelona the team was a shambles and full of ill-disciplined players who were quickly shipped out by Guardiola.
He has since had a disappointing spell in charge of Galatasary.

What makes him so qualified to take over at Liverpool?

I'd be looking at Manuel Pellegrini.

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21 Oct 2010 14:02:20
If there is a choice between pellegrini and rijkaard i would take pellegrini simply because of the way he handled all those mega egos in madrid while knowing all along that he'd be sacked if he doesn't win them the title. 96 points says it all really. Plus we have a good chance of getting a certain alexis sanchez then :-)
onto tonight's game the best i can hope for is a draw but i think it will be 2-1 to napoli. I'd be surprised if we win. Hope shelvey, kelly and pacheco start. What's your prediction for tonight Ed?

{Editor's Note: 3-2 to Liverpool.}

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21 Oct 2010 14:01:07
Rumour sweeping Merseyside ( and beyond ) since
mid - morning :-

Hodgson will resign within twenty minutes of
tonight's game

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21 Oct 2010 14:00:37
Silly question, but are the new owners aware that the majority of fans want Roy out?

I ask because some new owners are happy to install a manager straight away, but these guys don't seem that ruthless. They seem to have adopted a very cautious and humble approach to their new life as Liverpool owners, saying that they will be speak to every stakeholder of the club to make the right decisions (which I agree with by the way). But it is because of their seemingly modest approach that I wonder whether they feel they have the credentials to sack somebody at this moment in time.

I like Roy as a person, he came to Liverpool when we were in a lot of trouble and one can only wonder the amount of crap he had to put up with when trying to sign players during the summer. However, I do disagree with his tactics and team selections like most fans on here.

I think that Torres and co haven't had as much criticism on this website as they deserve. Some of the players have been a disgrace, and it only raises questions as to what they would be like in an 'Istanbul situation'. Would any of the players other than Stevie, Cara and Reina have the mentality to launch a comeback from 3-0 down? I don't think so, Torres for example, would be too busy sulking. Some of the players are equally to blame as Roy, if not more; because anyone who plays sport on this website will know that there is nothing worse than having a really negative team mate on your side.

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21 Oct 2010 13:59:05
LFC TO BID FOR HULK - 6 GOALS AND 3 ASSITS IN 6 GAMES SO FAR THIS SEASON. BUILT FOR EPL. PERFECT ASSITANCE FOR TORRES UP FRONT OR RIGHT WING IN A FRONT 3. ALSO BID FOR SANTON ON THE CARDS. CAN PLAY LB OR RB AND IS QUALITY ON THE BALL HOPEFUL PURCHASE IN EXCHANGE FOR KUYT.

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21 Oct 2010 13:58:56
Sorry to put a damper on everyone's hopes of getting a new manager, but it seems to me that our new owners is backing RH for the time being. The boardroom issues e.g. finding a new CEO and deciding key appointments take more precedence. And I wouldn't disagree with that - we really need the right people to run the club, though as much as I detest RH and can't wait to see him go, I just have to accept it

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21 Oct 2010 13:58:04
Just a quick point if (hopefully when) Roy is let go from the club. A few people have already touched on the astutness of Henry, so let's think of this.

Each place higher you finish in the league, the club receives £500k from the Premier League, so considering this, Henry may actually think he can make more money by sacking Roy, pay him a couple of million compo but in turn with a new manager possible finish higher up the table and take in more prize money than the couple of million paid out to Roy.

Spend money to make money as they say.


G-Force

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21 Oct 2010 13:56:52
In Reply to:

(Could ROY have made a mess of us by the TORRES comment to avenge his sacking now? ?maybe he is getting the sack and so in frustration he alerts his friend Fergie TORRES can b wooed away if u try hard. Did he do that intentionally or honestly GOD knows. .But man LFC need to stop him from making a disaster at Anfield. Could be he is making these statements to harden the life of a forthcoming manager. God hope not)

If it was any other manager in charge I wouldn't put it past them, but not Roy. People may not want him as manager anymore, and to be honest I feel the same way, but one thing Roy is, is a Gentlemen and a good honest bloke. However I do feel that he's probably lost some of the players and has set out the wrong formations. The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. I'm not saying Roy's insane, but if the Blackpool game didn't teach him anything. The second half we looked much better, but he changed the formation back for the Everton Game (pretty similar anyway).

One thing I liked about Roy was the honest answers in interviews, I'd grown tired of the cryptic messages topped off with the obligatory were working hard. But to be honest I could do without the Torres comment, he was honest but you still have to show a bit of defiance and say player aint for sale. I liked the Bayern Munich Chairman Quote of -" Bayern Munich is not a shop for people to come and buy/ take what they want" classic. Hopefully with the New owners we won't have the "we need any money we can get our hands on due to debt" approach so buying players off us will be a little harder than simply saying " I want that one" and taking him off us.

Bob Loblaw

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21 Oct 2010 13:55:04
I have heard from five different sources since 11:30
( including the one that predicted Gerard Houllier when no-one had ever heard of him ) that Clueless Roy will resign tonight whatever the result

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21 Oct 2010 13:41:27
Roy to be gone after tonight's game, Rijkaard to take over as planned. King Kenny to take over for the Blackburn game.
Also, some of the name's people are throwing in are ridiculous! Slaven Bilic, a man West Ham were looking like getting, Sam Allardyce, more of a friend to Fergie than Roy himself and as for Rafa, he won't be back in Liverpool for a while. I expect him to return, but only after he's done wonders at Inter.
I'm only 18 but I knew immediately that Roy's appointment was a mistake. He was mediocre at Fulham, pulling off a miracle in a Europa League final. His league record was poor however, getting a mid-table side to, well mid-table. He's never won anything major, the Allsvenskan and Tippeligaen not too difficult for a poor manager. He was shocking at Inter and even worse at Blackburn, has shown his true colours at Liverpool. Rijkaard will bring "total football" to Liverpool, get the best out of Babel and our other flair players and get us back in the top 4.
I'd expect a 4-3-3 formation to be adopted by Rijkaard, with 2 wingers so I'd imagine Elia will be looked at, while Van der Wiel will be a good prospect at RB, Johnson is a clear-cut winger, not good enough defensively. Dead wood will hopefully be sold ie Poulsen, Itandje, Lucas, Maxi and class will replace them.

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21 Oct 2010 13:36:14
If either Rijkaard or Dalglish comes in then I expect to see 3 new additions in Jan. Turan, Honda and Defour.

I think NESV will now look to players who are young and have passion to play for the club and the manager.

I seem to remember reading NSEV saying "contracts that make sense" and I fully agree with this.

For to long have we relied on Torres and Gerrard to get us out of trouble. It's about time we start building a "squad" that can compete and loose this fear that we can't do without Torres and Gerrard.

So if Torres wants to go then just let him. Get 50m and buy 2-3 exciting and up & coming players!

Build for the future! !

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21 Oct 2010 13:24:40
As much as I want roy out, I do feel sorry for him.
I think Masch's departure was a very significant loss (as was alonsos) and its difficult to keep players happy when they see their best teamates leaving, he also had very little money to spend. Who knows what aquilani would have been like this year but my guess is that he was shipped out to cut down the wage bill

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21 Oct 2010 13:22:51
The future managerial make-up of Liverpool will take shape over the next week. John W Henry, Thomas Werner, and Larry Lucchino are the men in charge of LFC.Joe Januszewski will become the new CEO, working alongside Brian Barwick. Frank Rikjaard has been approached about becoming new manager, bringing Johan Neeskens and Henk Ten Cate as his assistants. Sammy Lee will be offered a coaching role. Furthermore Txiki Begiristain has been approached with a view to working alongside Kenny Dalglish as a sporting director. Kenny will have a greater role in the club. Ian Rush and Phil Thompson have been approached to join the coaching staff on a part-time basis (Phil will still be able to stay on a Sky Sports)

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21 Oct 2010 13:21:02
IF Shrek said he was leaving MAN'URE because they couldn't guarantee him they will sign world class players.

Can you honestly see Torres going?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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21 Oct 2010 13:19:06
If the players arent turning up for Roy then it surley must be time for him to go. (This is from a fan whose always been willing to give managers time).

However, although I am not convinced that Rijkaard is the best person to lead us to glory we have been missing attacking football so much at Anfield that I would like to see us give him a go.

Thanks Roy for your hard work but when you came to this great club you knew the job was too big for you.

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21 Oct 2010 13:18:46
Gareth Bale signed for Spurs as Left Back - came in to his own as Left Winger.

Maybe Liverpool should learn from this and play Johsnon Right Wing!

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21 Oct 2010 13:17:55
I can't believe how many fans still believe that Rafa will and could return. Rafa will not be back so we have to let it go.

Fingers crossed a new manager comes in and gets us up the table asap. And then has sensibe funds to spend in January whatever why he see's fit. I honestly wouldn't trust Roy to spend wisely in January if he got the funds. And after his Torres comments yesterday along with our poor performance's he has to be sacked.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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21 Oct 2010 13:14:03
21 Oct 2010 10:44:15
In reality Inter thrashed Spurs last night. Rafa completely out thought Redknapp tactically. The scoreline was made respectable by 1 very good Spurs player.
But can you imagine if Rafa had taken Liverpool to Inter last season and been beaten in such a manner, what would the West ham, Spurs supporting London TV, Radio and press have said. It just shows how Redknapp is the current media darling and the bias against Liverpool.
Reddknapp is nothing more than a reasonably good manager who can only take a club so far. Benitez on the other hand has an excellent record in European competitions. Yet Redknapp keeps making stupid comments supporting Tom Hicks about the finance he had from Hicks' back pocket.
Both Redknapp Snr and Jnr are both becoming hate figures for Liverpool fans, continually making totally incorrect comments about the club.
The media ought to be looking into why Harry Redknapp and Kevin Bond are regularly seen in a north London branch of WH Smith making regular purchases of Large A4 brown envelopes. I wonder why?
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And also can some people stop suggesting we buy Spurs cast offs like Bentley etc. Did anybody see Jenas last night. Absolutely appalling. He makes Lucas Leiva look like a world beater.
On the subject of Lucas, I was watching LFCTV the other day and it showed the Merseyside derby from a few years ago in which Liverpool won with 2 Kuyt penalties. Lucas was outstanding. Fans need to realise there is a quality player there. But his confidence is totally shot.

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21 Oct 2010 13:12:43
Hodgson needs to go. his away record is appalling. even this season. defeats to man u, man city and everton. a draw at birmingham.

fed up of the excuses that there hard games, yes they are but we are liverpool. 1 Point from 4 away games regardless of the 4 teams weve played isn't no where near good enough we should be competing.

i no the squad isn't good enough and hasnt been since we finished 2nd. but roy cannot take us forward. great chance for a brand new start, new owners, new manager, new lease of life. ed is there any truth in the rumours he will leave after 2nyt? it just doesn't seem believable, why would he walk when he can get a nice pay off if they sack him? why bother travelling to italy if your going to leave?

Dan7

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21 Oct 2010 13:12:01
I'm not sure what to read into this, but before every game this season I have had a text from my brother with the team selection - it has always been right, and this is well before the team is officially announced on TV or anywhere else. Maybe other people on here get this info too from someone.

At 12:15 today I have received a text stating that 'Hodgson is out after the game tonight - win, lose or draw & Rijkard is in! !

Just being the messenger here.

It better be true or I'll kick his arse !

KBL

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21 Oct 2010 13:07:29
To oliver

You make very good points about compensation, about appointing a manager etc, about having the same players for whomever comes in.

However, possibly some other things to consider, roy was appointed by the board, not nesv. and i can't believe for one moment that roy wasnt aware of the possiblity that nesv would want their own man in place.
Also i don't think anyone really expected roy to be quite this bad. our worst start to a season since 1928 (if my maths is right)
Your point about the same players for whomever comes in. well mostly yes, but go back one, two seasons ago and those same players did as the name implied. they played! for whatever reason they certainly are not doing this under roy.

The main point i think is that we have a one time chance to turn things round for the future. with a start to the season like this do you really think that nesv are going to trust roy with whatever cash they want to plough into the team.

chris 1

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21 Oct 2010 13:07:04
21 Oct 2010 12:29:52
In reply to this. . .

{ed's note - . . . I don't think there is a cat in hell's chance of Rafa returning.}

Its not that ED! i am a rafa fan or something. . but i always had this feeling wid rafa that he took premiership to Liverpool to his ego. . I somehow felt that his passion for Liverpool and his big ego could get us premiership. .

Even Steve McManaman stated this in a show in ESPN. . with Rafa u always felt that this guy is giving an impression that he has unfinished business at Liverpool (which is why he didn't sell his home in Liverpool). . .nd it's his desperation, passion & ego which could have got us title. . .

Indian Fan {ed's note - Montse would never let him sell the house here, she never wanted to leave.}
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I think Rafa and family will return eventually. But not for 2-3 years. I also suspect they will eventually retire to the Wirral because they love their life there.
Rafa, wife and children have many great friends in the area.

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21 Oct 2010 13:05:31
Would love Liverpool to pick up Roque Santa Cruz on the cheap in January. We're not contenders so City will sell to us. I doubt we'd be able to get anyone of better ability than Santa Cruz in January unless Rooney is sold and triggers a merrygoround of strikers moving from club to club.

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21 Oct 2010 12:59:46
I know this is a little late but from what im hearing Rafa was forced out. The players ie Torres and Gerrard didn't want him to go hence lack/ loss of form now under Hodgson. Rafa was told to keep quiet and did until the Previous regime where thrown out last week, then, Low and behold Rafa makes a comment(slightly cryptic admittidly) that the dimmise of LFC was not down to him but rather the managing director that was installed by H&G. Having made this comment, not 24 hours later would you believe it, the managing director Christian Purslow stepped down from his post.
So to summarise, Rafa was forced out, the reason for the demise of LFC was down to H&G&CP, and now the players won't play well for RH. IN RAFA WE TRUST! !
ABS 1984 {ed's note - that is funny! Nice one mate, I am sure you might even find someone who believes this rubbish and forgets that the players had turned on Rafa.....}

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21 Oct 2010 12:54:26
Am the only one who would give raffa another 2 years .as I think with decent owners he could again concentrate on football instead of trying to stop the old yanks wrecking the club he loves .

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21 Oct 2010 12:50:46
Is there anyone who can explain to me why a club that is about to be sold pays a sompensation to get a short term manager, allows him to spend money on the transfer market on players of his choosing and after a few months cotemplates sacking him when he has a running contract only to hire a more expensive manager who would inherit the same players? I get it that Roy's Liverpool is a gutless, uninspired, washed up bunch; but isn't this just a giant waste of cash we have very little of to begin with? Unless the players really don't want to play for him, he'll be around at least until January. If Rijkaard comes, it'll be a sure sign that money will be spent in January. Why else would he resign from a job in Istanbul (great place to live) to manage a club that needs to be rebuilt from scratch?

If Rijkaard comes expect Liverpool to go Dutch (the Ajax variety): two fast tricky wingers (budget players), one CF (Torres or Someone else), Three dynamic midfielders (Gerrard, Meireles and not-Poulsen, not-Lucas or not-anyone currently at the club) and 3 avarage defenders plus Glen Johnson.

Yes, I rate Johnson because he is an attacking RB and none of them (RB, LB) ever look good defensively because they like to attack and therefore are twice as likely to get exposed. (Maicon last night, Bale last year, Lahm at Bayern, Evra at Utd, Arsenal's entire defense, etc.) You live by the gun, you die by the gun. Yes, Johnson was overpriced, but on a good team he'll make a difference, trust me.

Olivier

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21 Oct 2010 12:47:08
In my honest opinion i'd like FR to be our next manager. . People may say he failed in gala. but, i think he'd be a commanding manager instead of the players being bigger than our current manager.

From the rumours i've heard about players at the club, it seems like roy has lost control of the players. players don't want to play. and are basically giving up on him just like most of the liverpool fans.

you can say Rijkarrd only did well in barca because barca are and have always been a great team. hasnt liverpool? 8 games 1 win is Dreadful! no manager in a big team would survive. i thought roy would be givin longer but now i think he was only brought in for temp. while the club was in such a bad state no manager really wanted to be here.

i think FR will be 10x better than roy for liverpool, mainly because i think roy is more of a manager for the likes of Blackburn, west ham etc. (basically a mid table team).

We need a new face. and a manager that doesn't take any crap from the players. no player is bigger than the club. . if torres hates playing for liverpool. sell him. same for gerrard. same for reina. if they have a problem with the manager. and the manager is doing awful. get rid of the manager. and if the manager is doing well. get rid of the player!

roy doing bad = get rid.

maybe he does need more time to settle. . but we're slowly self destructing when the team should be on the up.

and DEFINITLY Wouldnt want O'neil. Can't understand why people like him. . he isn't a BIG club manager and he falls in the same slot as Roy. (mid table)

Matt YNWA

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21 Oct 2010 12:31:16
Sam allardyce for liverpool. who in their right mind would even consider that proposal for more than 3 seconds. The only thing big about sam is the size of his ego or the fawning respect he shows for the drunkard at a certain club in manchester

chris 1

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21 Oct 2010 12:30:12
21 Oct 2010 12:06:21
Riykaard is now odds on favourite for Liverpool Job !

Bookmakers William Hill have slashed their odds about Rijkaard becoming the next manager of Liverpool from 2/ 1 to 2/ 7, following rumours that Hodgson will quit the club after tonight's Europa League game. The company has also suspended their market on who will be the next top flight manager to leave his club for which Hodgson was 15/ 8 favourite.

Paggsy
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Spot on Paggsy! I tried to lay a bet and i was quoted 2/ 7.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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21 Oct 2010 12:29:52
In reply to this. . .

{ed's note - . . . I don't think there is a cat in hell's chance of Rafa returning.}

Its not that ED! i am a rafa fan or something. . but i always had this feeling wid rafa that he took premiership to Liverpool to his ego. . I somehow felt that his passion for Liverpool and his big ego could get us premiership. .

Even Steve McManaman stated this in a show in ESPN. . with Rafa u always felt that this guy is giving an impression that he has unfinished business at Liverpool (which is why he didn't sell his home in Liverpool). . .nd it's his desperation, passion & ego which could have got us title. . .

Indian Fan {ed's note - Montse would never let him sell the house here, she never wanted to leave.}

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21 Oct 2010 12:27:06
Torres and another senior player have refused to play for Woy ever again.
A number of other senior players are dismayed at his methods and tactics
Woy packs his bags after the game tonight

And poulson is Sh$te

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21 Oct 2010 12:26:16
Could ROY have made a mess of us by the TORRES comment to avenge his sacking now? ?maybe he is getting the sack and so in frustration he alerts his friend Fergie TORRES can b wooed away if u try hard. Did he do that intentionally or honestly GOD knows. .But man LFC need to stop him from making a disaster at Anfield. Could be he is making these statements to harden the life of a forthcoming manager. God hope not

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21 Oct 2010 12:25:45
Who would you prefer to be appointed when (not if) Uncle Woy leaves this weekend? Please Vote:

Kenny Dalglish (Believable)
Frank Rijkaard (Unbelievable)

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21 Oct 2010 12:22:30
Joe Januszewski the new chief at Liverpool.

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21 Oct 2010 12:22:30
Totally agree with you ed- People can criticise Roy all they want, but at least do it fairly. You only have to twist statistics if your argument isn't strong enough. Roy is a good man with a decent record, but he is in the wrong job. However he should be shown some respect.

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21 Oct 2010 12:20:18
Woah, it's one thing to want Hodgson gone, but another altogether to put up Allardyce as a potential replacement. Going by some of the deals he and his son have done i'd wager he's more likely to be bunking with Redknapp Sr than at a top flight club any time soon. His constant wish to back up Fergie any time there was a chance to criticise Liverpool during Rafa's reign is reason enough to veto that call.

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21 Oct 2010 12:19:53
Mybe rijkaard will get more out of babel

i am not sure but as babel played 5-10 games in is preferred position don't think he as

i think that is the biggest problem with liverpool at the moment the midfield especially seem to all run around like headless chickens all of them seem to try 2 or 3 jobs to do instead of concentrating on what they have to do

gerrard especially seems to try and cover for everybody but even him on sunday was standing in the center circle at one point hands on hips just watching ok

I think alot of players are frustrated at liverpool at the moment

if rijkaard is the new manager i think it will be a good thing for the young players to get more of a chance and for the senior players to get played where they should be played

I think what im trying to say is for so many years to have 2 managers that basically play defensive football maybe now gerrard torres babel merieles pacheo amoo etc etc can be unleashed to seek and destroy a breath of fresh air

just a little piece on what i think if rijkaard is coming

would like your opinion on what rijkaard could brink to us ed? and keep up the good work

tazz YNWA {ed's note - good attacking football is what he will bring, I am not convinced he will have the man-management skills needed though.}

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21 Oct 2010 12:10:01
Come on reds fans! i think some need reminding!

HIS ARMBAND SAID HE WAS A RED TORRES TORRES
YOU NEVER WALK ALONE IT SAID TORRES, TORRES!

does this sound like a man who would leave for the mancs. . he is a red through and through!

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21 Oct 2010 12:08:48
Gerrard, Torres and Dalglish have stayed behind to speak to Riijkard. Roy to step down immediatley after the game tonight and Riijkard to be revealed as manager Friday. You heard it first

Runcorn Red!

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21 Oct 2010 12:06:21
Riykaard is now odds on favourite for Liverpool Job !

Bookmakers William Hill have slashed their odds about Rijkaard becoming the next manager of Liverpool from 2/ 1 to 2/ 7, following rumours that Hodgson will quit the club after tonight's Europa League game. The company has also suspended their market on who will be the next top flight manager to leave his club for which Hodgson was 15/ 8 favourite.

Paggsy

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21 Oct 2010 12:04:57
(1)Ed, how confident are you that Hodgson won't last to see the Blackpan game?
(2)Rumour has it that Rijkaard has replaced him in earnest.Do you believe this true?
(3)John W Henry, by all accounts, is a man who embraces statistics, is strongly keen in analysis and the small details, is long-term oriented and, morever, a winner by nature.These are all characteristics synonymous with one Senor Benitez.So ed, in your opinion, how likely is this potentially perfect marriage between Rafa and JWH?

Gracias,
Lombardi Cazorla {ed's note - I am fairly confident Roy is gone before the Blackburn game, extremely confident that he won't be manager after the weekend. I do believe Rijkaard to be in the frame, I think he is the most likely manager to take charge. I don't think there is a cat in hell's chance of Rafa returning.}

Lets hope you are right ed. All Liverpool fans would want to win everything in sight but if we are being realistic all we want is an attacking team that can challange on all fronts. It is not like the old days when there was not many challanges to our dominance. The competition out there is bigger these days and all we ask for is to be able to compete with the rest of them and have some belief that we can win each game we play.

EST.1892

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21 Oct 2010 12:03:22
Hogson to be sacked very soon i know this for a FACT and im not rafa lol

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21 Oct 2010 12:02:09
My mate works for betfair and he told me a lot of things that have come true hogson is gone purslow told the owners to make a change before he stepped down saying even with these players liverpool should not be where they are in the table and took some responsiblity for making him manager.

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21 Oct 2010 12:01:26
People need to get off torres back saying he needs sold, without a doubt he is the best striker in the world, have you never heard form is temporarily class is forever! he will be back with a bang watch him. . HODGSON gone if no results tonight or sunday what you think ed?
EL NINO 9 {ed's note - an on form Torres is unstoppable, our only real chance at the weekend was a result of him beating two men to create space.}

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21 Oct 2010 12:00:23
Why i think rijkaard will be the next manager!

There is an excellent article by martin Mcginnis entitled "mid table manager syndrome". In it he proposes a theory of this syndrome, and the symptoms are as follows
A mid table manager has low expectations, there is less pressure. A bad result here and there is quickly forgotten when the team is safe in mid table.
Smaller budgets, mid table teams tend to work on a shoestring so their transfers arnt under the microscope to the same extent.
Less egos- most mid table teams star players are big fish in a small pond, once the player becomes unhappy he is sold for a profit, no one ever blames a manager for a mid table star player leaving.
When suffers of this syndrome move on to bigger clubs a cure is expected. this is rarely the case

recognise anyone?

Step forward sam allardyce. he did wonders at bolton (a mid table team) but decided to go to newcastle, a team with more expectations, he failed and now plies his trade at blackburn ( a mid table team) We can apply the same logic to mark hughes, david moyes, steve bruce.

The point of all this is that i believe roy to be a mid table team syndrome sufferer. After watching liverpool struggle this season roy seems a classic sufferer. He excelled with a small club like fulham, only to be swamped with the sheer pressure of managing one of the biggest clubs in europe. He has not gotten the best out of the players and seems to have no cohesive plan for liverpool.

Rijkaard at the age of 48 is one of the best young managers around and has done very well at the top jobs unlike roy hodgson. The best thing with young managers is that they adapt to changes which more senile ones like roy refuse to just because those methods worked for him at a mid table club.

Rijkaard has learned his trade under cryuff and rinus michels. When rijkaard took over at barcelona there were many similarities to liverpool, team was a shambles and they had just been taken over!

Unlike hodgson rijkaard utlised the potential of many talented youngsters from the academy who became household names. puyol, xavi, iniesta. He also also identified and brought superb talents to the club samuel eto, deco.

who would you rather have? and if you were nesv who are looking to make a blod statement of intent who do you think they are looking at?

I apologise for the rant. and although i percieve roy to be a decent man he has to be replaced, and my dream team would frank rijkaard with henk ten cate

chris 1

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21 Oct 2010 12:00:11
Also for the Editor, , , Hodgson left Halmstad in 1980, that is thirty years ago, so the manager you are backing had his best moments in management three decades ago, plus the records where i got the career details just stated he was there it did not give breakdown of statistics(From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

rasone {ed's note - when have I said I was backing Hodgson? I am just not having you print false stats to back your claim that Hodgson has always been a useless manager.}

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21 Oct 2010 11:59:37
We should start from now building our team for next season and bringing on the young players that will become 1st team players and weed out the deadwood and see how they get on so we know come july where we need to give our new manager funds to improve the team. so in light of my thoughts i think our team should start like this in most games:

- - - - - - - REINA- - - - - -

KELLY SKRTEL AGGER MAVINGA

- -GERRARD SHELVEY MEREILES-

- - - - -PACHECO COLE- - - -

- - - - - - TORRES- - - - - - -

bench: JONES, WILSON, DARBY, AMOO, INCE, NGOG, SPEARING

what is everyone's opinion on this idea? also do you think that it is a good enough looking team? what are your thots ed?

{Editor's Note: I am all for blooding the youngsters, but not necessarily all at once. I am not a particular fan of playing a defensive midfielder unless planning in European games or in games which specifically require it - and then it needs to be a specialist player not someone playing out of position. In a way a centre back might convert well. The other problem of playing a DM is that it takes a player away from elsewhere - either from midfield which means having to play in a diamond or having to play without too much width, or it takes away the second striker. So it is all a balance really, youngsters sure - but not all at the same time.}

I agree with the defensive midfielder point but none of the three here are meant to act in that role they can all control the midfield either sitting or going forward and with the width this formation allows cole and pacheco to not only support torres but drift wide leaving space for gerrard and mereiles to exploit it. Also the point i was making on the young players was that they can't be worse than whats playing just now and there is only one way to judge them and if they not as good as we thot then use the money next summer to strengthen them positions. what you think ed? {ed's note - different editor, I am all for giving the kids a go, they have to be better than the current first team!}

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21 Oct 2010 11:58:28
I backed Hodgson, but his want to keep playing Poulsen and Kyrgiakos is what worries me more than quotes and long ball football. If they're getting in the team ahead of Kelly/ Wilson/ Shelvey we may as well bring Babb and Diao back in. We'd still get beaten but at least there'd be a few laughs. The nutcracker in particular still brings a smile to my face.

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21 Oct 2010 11:57:28
{ed's note - I am fairly confident Roy is gone before the Blackburn game, extremely confident that he won't be manager after the weekend. I do believe Rijkaard to be in the frame, I think he is the most likely manager to take charge. I don't think there is a cat in hell's chance of Rafa returning.}

you seem very very confident ed hope you don't get egg on your face {ed's note - so do I mate!}

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21 Oct 2010 11:57:12
I think its only common sense that Hodgson will be gone sooner rather than later. .these NESV people don't wait around. .they have a plan to make Liverpool the dominant team in the PL as well as in europe and from the sounds of them they want to achieve this asap. I can't see them thinking that 19th in the league and the current form of the team being part of the route to this and they will want improvements quickly and the only way this is going to happen is with a different style of manager and a different style of football. .so for those reasons. .adios Roy! !

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21 Oct 2010 11:53:42
Get a manager that has no fear, that was the shankly way no fear, all this holding midfielder lark is a waste of a player, playing with lucas is like playing with 10 men anyway, so we may as well play a more positive type of player, we never won the title playing crab football, no team did its not Italy its england,
i can remember john barnes losing a few yards of pace he should of finished and left, but no he was made the HOLDING player, he was a mere shadow of himself and spoilt his legacy as a top player, he was the first of this type of player for us, and we seem to have stuck with that type of player, ronnie whealan picked all the bits up on the edge of our box and the opponents box he was MOBILE and didn't get a panic attack in the opponents half of the pitch, we really need to play with no fear and forget 2 yes 2 holding players at HOME! against portsmouth and birmingham and the like at home, there are times when its usefull to have a holding player that's called tactics, not plain boring predictability in every game we should be smashing teams at home instead of plodding through the game BOB PAISLEYS SKIDS

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21 Oct 2010 11:53:36
For God sake Ed! Your talking about the Swedish league, not exactly the Prem is it, face it you may be one of the Editors but that still does not make Roy's record any good

People say how well Roy did at Fulham, just look at the stats

He only won 39.5% of matches there. Face it in the major leagues he has won nothing, get over it!

Rafa's record is far superior, Last year Rafa finished 7th, not once was there talk of going down to the championship.

rasone {ed's note - so you include teams such as Bristol City, which isn't exactly the Premier League, but you don't include Malmo? Is that not just because it shows you to be completely and utterly wrong? You are going purely on a bunch of numbers without any explanation of the circumstances surrounding those numbers. For instance, when Roy took over Inter were they, by any chance, current Italian and European champions? I think you will find they weren't. Roy's record stands comparison to anyone's, as does Rafa's, but you are just picking and choosing stats to suit yourself. I have pointed out where you are wrong, all you have done is ignore the facts that don't suit you. Rafa's record at Liverpool being better than Roy's at Fulham is hardly something to boast about. Rafa took charge of a top four side, Roy took charge of a team almost certain to get relegated. Rafa spent pots of money, Roy spent virtually nothing but got Fulham into European competition. Their records stand comparison. That doesn't mean either are the right man for Liverpool.}

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21 Oct 2010 11:49:00
The match is on ITV4 AT 5:30

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21 Oct 2010 11:48:07
Just started reading, Kenny Dalglish: My Liverpool Home. He said how players would always feel the electricity when Shanks was arriving. This is what we need now a true legend of the game. Only Kenny would be the right man for now. He would bring all the players down to earth and play the pass and move game that we used to play so well. I'm only 19 and don't have any recelection of Shanks, Sir Bob or King Kenny managing us but i watch LFCTV everyday religously. I see the classic games like Rome in 77 thay paved our european success. Liverpool fans are the most loyal the world over and we will always stuck with our team and stick together. Under Roy I just beleive that he is not embracing the Liverpool way and is setting his teams out with a Fulham philosophy. We have new owners, we have good and great players, but at best, we have a medeocre manager. It's time for Kenny to take over and see how he does. Even if he does bad nothing will ever ruin his legacy at Anfield.

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21 Oct 2010 11:45:20
(1)Ed, how confident are you that Hodgson won't last to see the Blackpan game?
(2)Rumour has it that Rijkaard has replaced him in earnest.Do you believe this true?
(3)John W Henry, by all accounts, is a man who embraces statistics, is strongly keen in analysis and the small details, is long-term oriented and, morever, a winner by nature.These are all characteristics synonymous with one Senor Benitez.So ed, in your opinion, how likely is this potentially perfect marriage between Rafa and JWH?

Gracias,
Lombardi Cazorla {ed's note - I am fairly confident Roy is gone before the Blackburn game, extremely confident that he won't be manager after the weekend. I do believe Rijkaard to be in the frame, I think he is the most likely manager to take charge. I don't think there is a cat in hell's chance of Rafa returning.}

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21 Oct 2010 11:42:59
Hodgsons reign over after tonights game. Rijkaard in Liverpool today ready to take over. You heard it here first. :)

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21 Oct 2010 11:41:51
21 Oct 2010 11:35:18
Why is Roy keep saying he afraid of MU bidding on Torres. This will never happen in both teams history. Torres hates MU as much we do. He will never join MU. But for sure Torres is unhappy to play under Roy and clearly we need new manager to turn us back and i hope King Kenny would best choice.

Kenny Dalglish must be at Liverpool for as long as possible but not as manager. The role of club ambassador and looking after the youth is ideal for him and a great help to our club.

EST.1892

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21 Oct 2010 11:39:37
Re:
{ed's note - I think he should have immediately come out and rejected any notion of a sale to United.}

I agree with you ed, but maybe not for the obvious reasons.
- Firstly if Nando gets his head turned anymore it'll spin right round like in the Exorcist, Woy's comments won't help keep him focussed.
- Secondly if anyone came in and offered £50M+ for him I'd bite their hands off - he is quality but much too injury prone, when he plays he may be a £60M striker but if he only plays half the matches that makes him a £30M striker as far as I am concerned. If Woy is seen to be touting him about then his transfer price will drop, a "he's not for sale" would maximize the price should he be sold.

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21 Oct 2010 11:35:18
Why is Roy keep saying he afraid of MU bidding on Torres. This will never happen in both teams history. Torres hates MU as much we do. He will never join MU. But for sure Torres is unhappy to play under Roy and clearly we need new manager to turn us back and i hope King Kenny would best choice.

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21 Oct 2010 11:34:59
No player is bigger than LFC. If Torres is not showing the commitment then I agree with what Roy is doing and touting a player to Manure as this will possibly start a bidding war and get a very good price for someone who no longer wants to be here. Maybe then Roy will have the money to buy world class players that do want to wear the red shirt and wear it with pride.
Roy is picking up the pieces from poor decisions by the management team before him. We are known for giving managers time to have their own team and their own influences. Your thoughts ED?

YNWA {ed's note - I think he should have immediately come out and rejected any notion of a sale to United.}

Possibly. But shouldn't Torres then come out and say he is commited to the cause aswell as there is alot of speculation he doesn't want to be here?

YNWA {ed's note - personally I think players should not have to respond to this kind of ridiculous speculation over and over. He has rejected United on numerous occasions, he came out in the summer and confirmed his commitment to Liverpool, it is time for him to just concentrate on playing.}

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21 Oct 2010 11:34:37
21 Oct 2010 11:25:03
Hodgson out if we lose next two games(very likely in naples) Frank Rijkaard to be new manager of liverpool and he will bring in the best of dutch and maybe a few barca old faces. eg.elia from hamburg, van der wiel, robben and possibly xavi from barca as he is the old man of the midfield now at 30. .what do you think ed? {ed's note - there is more chance of me being signed than Xavi! But I can dream, I would love to see Xavi play for us.}

Why are we waiting for the Blackburn result. Even if we win it won't change the fact that under Roy we don't play attacking football. Watch the games this season and see how many players get in the area. Hardly any. It don't matter how good Torres is with 3 defenders round him he won't score. Get rid of Roy now and lets have a bright future.

EST.1892

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21 Oct 2010 11:29:30
No player is bigger than LFC. If Torres is not showing the commitment then I agree with what Roy is doing and touting a player to Manure as this will possibly start a bidding war and get a very good price for someone who no longer wants to be here. Maybe then Roy will have the money to buy world class players that do want to wear the red shirt and wear it with pride.
Roy is picking up the pieces from poor decisions by the management team before him. We are known for giving managers time to have their own team and their own influences. Your thoughts ED?

YNWA {ed's note - I think he should have immediately come out and rejected any notion of a sale to United.}

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21 Oct 2010 11:27:52
Please don't let Woy waste any money set aside for the january transfer window.If he can't work out a decent starting 11 and a strong formation with the players he has available at the moment then it really is time for woy to move on. There is nothing wrong with the squad apart from missing wing backs and another striker, woy had some money to spend and bougt poulson and konchesky, FFS please don't let him but anymore players of this standard. Mierles and cole were good signings but have both been played out of posistion, WHY? When will woy realise the Gerradr is one of the best central midfielders on the planet and not a supporting striker? I know things aren't always black and white but with the players we have I personally think our strongest line up would be :-

Reina

Johnson Carragher Skrtel Agger

Mierles Gerrard

Cole
Kuyt Jovanovic

Torres

And on the bench:-

Jones
Kelly
Kochesky
lucas
Babel
Ngog

80% of the other teams in the premier league would love any of these players but for some reason woy has demotivated, uninspired and sucked out any bit of flair/ creativity the players had.

Bring on rijkaard I say! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

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21 Oct 2010 11:26:51
Italian Fa must wish they kept their mouth's shut now, they are asking for Serbia to be banned when their fans are just as bad.

Disgrace, but guess what, nothing will happen to them.

Rez

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21 Oct 2010 11:25:03
Hodgson out if we lose next two games(very likely in naples) Frank Rijkaard to be new manager of liverpool and he will bring in the best of dutch and maybe a few barca old faces. eg.elia from hamburg, van der wiel, robben and possibly xavi from barca as he is the old man of the midfield now at 30. .what do you think ed? {ed's note - there is more chance of me being signed than Xavi! But I can dream, I would love to see Xavi play for us.}

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21 Oct 2010 11:23:26
The bookies have stopped taking bets on Hodgson leaving, but have opened a new book on how long the next Liverpool boss lasts.

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21 Oct 2010 11:19:36
21 Oct 2010 11:15:37
RIJKAAR 2-1 0N WITH WILLIAM HILL FOR THE NEW MANAGER OF LIVERPOOL. .PLUS ALL BETTING SUSPENDED ON HODGSON TO BE NEXT GAFFA TO LEAVE


Hopefully just a matter of time.

EST.1892

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21 Oct 2010 11:17:20
* * * * * * * * Fellow LFC fans* * * * * * * *

I think we all need to look at the bigger picture at our beloved club at the moment.
The squad that Hodgson has inherited is a shambles.
Some might argue rafa didn't get the money to buy world class players but what he did buy was rubbish (Aquilani etc).
We cannot start judging Roy until he is given money to spend by the new owners. It is rumoured that Roy will receive £30 million in the january transfer window.
I would expect Roy to sell the following players: -
Jovanovic
Maxi
Babel
Poulsen (bad buy)
Itandje
Aquilani
Degen
El Zhar
Insua
From the sale of all the players above (who are dead wood and are not good enough to wear the shirt) i would expect to see at least £30 million.
That gives Roy a sweet £60 million to spend.
With that money Roy will be able to go out and buy some world class players.
I would start with:
Ashley Young
Sergio Aguero
These 2 players alone would transform our team.
The lineup would then be:
Reina
Johnson
Srktel
Agger
Konchesky
Young
Gerrard
Meireles
Cole
Torres
Aguero
Subs would include the likes of: Jones, Kelly, Carragher, Lucas, Kuyt, Ngog
This squad would get us back on track and put us into the top 4.
I would like Roy to go out and spend alot of money on buying some young english talent in the mould of Adam Johnson. These players would give us more strength in depth.

Sounds good, but would you really trust Roy with 60 million. He has not got a good record of playing attacking football so it would be a brave move to give him 60 million. We all want attacking football which means having an attack minded manager.

EST.1892

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21 Oct 2010 11:15:37
RIJKAAR 2-1 0N WITH WILLIAM HILL FOR THE NEW MANAGER OF LIVERPOOL. .PLUS ALL BETTING SUSPENDED ON HODGSON TO BE NEXT GAFFA TO LEAVE

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21 Oct 2010 11:11:00
Ed - Thanks for that one.

Other players

GK / Gulacsi - Untested At Liverpool
GK / Hanson - Untested At Liverpool
GK / Bouzanis - Untested At Liverpool
GK / Itandje - Finished At Anfield
RB / Degen - Worst Player Ever Seen
LB / Insua - Looks Promising
CM / Aquilani - Looks Promising
CM / Plessis - Average Player
RM / El Zhar - Not Good Enough For Us
Scouse Pride

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21 Oct 2010 10:58:59
We should start from now building our team for next season and bringing on the young players that will become 1st team players and weed out the deadwood and see how they get on so we know come july where we need to give our new manager funds to improve the team. so in light of my thoughts i think our team should start like this in most games:

- - - - - - - REINA- - - - - -

KELLY SKRTEL AGGER MAVINGA

- -GERRARD SHELVEY MEREILES-

- - - - -PACHECO COLE- - - -

- - - - - - TORRES- - - - - - -

bench: JONES, WILSON, DARBY, AMOO, INCE, NGOG, SPEARING

what is everyone's opinion on this idea? also do you think that it is a good enough looking team? what are your thots ed?

{Editor's Note: I am all for blooding the youngsters, but not necessarily all at once. I am not a particular fan of playing a defensive midfielder unless planning in European games or in games which specifically require it - and then it needs to be a specialist player not someone playing out of position. In a way a centre back might convert well. The other problem of playing a DM is that it takes a player away from elsewhere - either from midfield which means having to play in a diamond or having to play without too much width, or it takes away the second striker. So it is all a balance really, youngsters sure - but not all at the same time.}

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21 Oct 2010 10:57:07
* * * * * * * * Fellow LFC fans* * * * * * * *

I think we all need to look at the bigger picture at our beloved club at the moment.
The squad that Hodgson has inherited is a shambles.
Some might argue rafa didn't get the money to buy world class players but what he did buy was rubbish (Aquilani etc).
We cannot start judging Roy until he is given money to spend by the new owners. It is rumoured that Roy will receive £30 million in the january transfer window.
I would expect Roy to sell the following players: -
Jovanovic
Maxi
Babel
Poulsen (bad buy)
Itandje
Aquilani
Degen
El Zhar
Insua
From the sale of all the players above (who are dead wood and are not good enough to wear the shirt) i would expect to see at least £30 million.
That gives Roy a sweet £60 million to spend.
With that money Roy will be able to go out and buy some world class players.
I would start with:
Ashley Young
Sergio Aguero
These 2 players alone would transform our team.
The lineup would then be:
Reina
Johnson
Srktel
Agger
Konchesky
Young
Gerrard
Meireles
Cole
Torres
Aguero
Subs would include the likes of: Jones, Kelly, Carragher, Lucas, Kuyt, Ngog
This squad would get us back on track and put us into the top 4.
I would like Roy to go out and spend alot of money on buying some young english talent in the mould of Adam Johnson. These players would give us more strength in depth.

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21 Oct 2010 10:56:29
20 Oct 2010 23:52:16
Would any one ever think about getting martin o neil as manager ye see what he did with celtic and villa, just what would he do wit liverpool now since we have money to back us up, ,


i don't na about anyone else but i would love to see him with us


hodgson is not good enuf for lfc get rid of him {ed's note - I would rather keep Hodgson than get O'Neill, he did nothing with Villa but hold them back.}
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DON'T WANT O' NEIL AT ANY COST. AWFUL STYLE OF FOOTBALL! ! WE WANT GOOD QUALITY PASSING FOOTBALL WITH A SOLID DEFENCE.

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21 Oct 2010 10:56:04
Properly gonna get attacked now. but who is carragher trying to kid saying the whole squad is behind the manager. . if that was the case we would be winning games and in the top 4.

if it hasnt escaped your notice jamie, we us fans know u and stevie have fell out with pepe and el nino. . this manager is a joke. inviting purple nose to bid for torres too.

Get ROY OUT NOW! !


Carragher is saying the right things at this moment in time. No good making things worse by slagging team mates and Roy off in public.

EST.1892

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21 Oct 2010 10:54:30
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Valencia 1 July 2001 16 June 2004
Played 163 W87 D43 L33 W/ R 53.37%

Liverpool 16 June 2004 3 June 2010
Played 350 W194 D77 L79 W/ R 55.43%

Internazionale 16 June 2010 Present
Played 6 W3 D2 L1 W/ R 50.00%


Total PLAYED 557
WIN 303
DRAW 131
LOSE 123
WIN RATIO 54.40 %


ROY, S RECORD


Bristol City 3 January 1982 30 April 1982
Played 20 W3 D5 L12 15.00%

Neuchtel Xamax July 1990 June 1992
Played 72 W29 D27 L16 40.28%

Switzerland 26 January 1992 15 November 1995
Played 41 W21 D10 1L0 51.22 %

Internazionale 5 October 1995 25 May 1997
Played 86 W38 D25 L23 44.19%

Blackburn Rovers 1 June 1997 21 November 1998
Played 62 W22 D18 L22 35.48%

Internazionale 5 May 1999 27 June 1999
Played 03 W2 D1 L0 66.67%

Grasshopper July 1999 June 2000
Played 36 W14 D12 L10 38.89%

Copenhagen July 2000 June 2001
Played 35 W18 D12 L5 51.43%

Udinese 21 June 2001 10 December 2001
Played 17 W7 D5 L5 41.18%

United Arab Emirates 9 April 2002 14 January 2004 Played 17 W4 D6 L7 23.53%

Viking 11 July 2004 20 December 2005
Played 38 W16 D10 L12 42.11%

Finland 16 January 2006 30 November 2007
Played 22 W6 D11 L5 27.27%

Fulham 30 December 2007 1 July 2010
Played 127 W50 D32 L45 39.37%

Liverpool 1 July 2010
Played 16 W6 D5 L5 37.50%

Total 590
WINS 238
DRAWS 177
LOSE 175
WIN RATIO 40.34 %

FOR THOSE THAT MOAN ABOUT RAFA COMPARE THE RECORDS.

Roys had more clubs than Nick Faldo, and has a very ordinary record! !

rasone

I for one would have Rafa back tomorrow! {ed's note - that is a load of rubbish mate - that is not Roy's true record at all! Where is Halmstads? The Swedish team he won the league with twice in 76 and 78 or 9 I forget which. The team he took over and turned around, they were relegation certainties in 76, yet he led them to the title. That was why he got the Bristol City job. Where is his time at Orebro (I think) and Malmo (who he led to 5, yes five, consecutive league titles)? If you are going to compare records, don't cheat to make a point, be fair.}

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21 Oct 2010 10:54:12
Sorry roy your out of your depth. get john aldridge in to sort the mess he has the passion , fight, love , respect, and most of all he's scouse and give a roll to roy evans, and get steve nicol in as coach build up the boot room again. .

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21 Oct 2010 10:49:54
Personally i would be gutted if Rijkaard got the managers job.

Not because i don't rate him, but because i put a bet on him back in june to be the next manager when his odds were sky high (before they tumbled). I would have made a killing if Roy hadn't taken over!

agueroinjanuary.

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21 Oct 2010 10:48:32
Torres will nopt be going to united, there in a worse financial situation than liverpool and lack serious ambition.
giggs, neville and scholes will retire soon, so no squad players and united will be on the decline

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21 Oct 2010 10:47:58
Ed - With regards to David Luiz being considerably more than £8million do you reckon that Benfica would be interested in Ryan Babel in some sort of player-swap deal. Maybe Ryan Babel & £7million in exchange for david Luiz!

GK / Reina - World Class
GK / Jones - Wouldn't Have Bought
RB / Johnson - Should Play RM/ RW
RB / Darby - Average Prem Player
CB / Carragher - Passed His Best
CB / Ayala - Looks Promising
CB / Skrtel - Solid Defender
CB / Agger - World Class
CB / Kelly - Looks Promising
CB / Kyrgiakos - Average Player Who Tries
CB / Wilson - Haven't Seen Enough Of To Rate
LB / Konchesky - Solid Defender
LB / Fabio Aurelio - Wouldn't Have Re-Signed
RM / Kuyt - Average Player Who Tries
RM / Maxi - Not Suited To Prem
CM / Poulson - Awful
CM / Lucas - Average Player Who Tries
CM / Gerrard - World Class
CM / Shelvey - Looks Promising
CM / Spearing - Average Player Who Tries
CM / Meireles - World Class
LM / Cole - Average Player Who Tries
LM / Jovanovic - Finding His Feet, Shows Promise
ST / Pacheco - Looks Promising
ST / N'Gog - Average Player Who Tries
ST / Torres - World Class
ST / Babel - Needs more games to improve
Scouse Pride {ed's note - I am not sure that would be enough, it wasn't long ago that Benfica were asking 20m+ for Luiz, if that is still the case then we would need to offer a bit more than Babel!}

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21 Oct 2010 10:44:15
In reality Inter thrashed Spurs last night. Rafa completely out thought Redknapp tactically. The scoreline was made respectable by 1 very good Spurs player.
But can you imagine if Rafa had taken Liverpool to Inter last season and been beaten in such a manner, what would the West ham, Spurs supporting London TV, Radio and press have said. It just shows how Redknapp is the current media darling and the bias against Liverpool.
Reddknapp is nothing more than a reasonably good manager who can only take a club so far. Benitez on the other hand has an excellent record in European competitions. Yet Redknapp keeps making stupid comments supporting Tom Hicks about the finance he had from Hicks' back pocket.
Both Redknapp Snr and Jnr are both becoming hate figures for Liverpool fans, continually making totally incorrect comments about the club.
The media ought to be looking into why Harry Redknapp and Kevin Bond are regularly seen in a north London branch of WH Smith making regular purchases of Large A4 brown envelopes. I wonder why?

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21 Oct 2010 10:39:24
Its only my opinion but i think maybe the team needs to become more of a team as it sounds like a lot a cliques in the club and maybe they should try and come together as more of a unit to try bind them more. Maybe more team building excercises? maybe they could try paintballing or a good p*ss up together or maybe they need graham from the kyle show to come in and work as a relate counselor? We need team spirit back - if there not playing stick them in the kop to see the passion the real fans have.

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21 Oct 2010 10:36:46
I have just spoken to one of my sources who works at Anfield (blood relative) in the administration.

She has no information at all regarding Hodgson leaving/ staying etc and all the talk at Anfield itself is purely "coffee corner" gossip. As far as they are concerned everything is carrying on as normal.

She can neither confirm nor deny any of the rumours currently doing the rounds.

RED LENIN

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21 Oct 2010 10:34:40
Roy Hodson debate,

Lets be honsest he is a nice guy, I think we all agree, but he does not need to say the things he says.

Why when we had a mountain of debt we did not need to sell Torres, which surely means we don't need to now, when Torres came back from the world cup he went on LFC TV and stated his love and desire to stay at the club.

All Roy has to do is say he is not for sale, not waffle on about being naive etc etc and continually picking his ear and scratching his face (so annoying!)

Any way in my opinion he should never have got the job in the first place, he has no record of any real success just a lot of experience doing this and that around the world!

There are only a handful of managers that I think are capable and they are:

Mourinho
Hiddink
O Neil

And only one of these is probably available!

Anyone else would be a waste of time, and whilst we all rant on about King Kenny, how long has he been out of management - it could be a disaster if that happened. Sorry but true!

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21 Oct 2010 10:32:07
The difference with Hodgson and Rijkaard His their style of play ED. I never wanted hodgson because of his defensive style. I have been a fed up season ticket holder for the last 11 years watching counter attack football at Anfield.Rijkaard plays the game the right way.Not always going to agree ed.

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21 Oct 2010 10:32:03
Just to Add to the following:


WHAT IS THIS GUY ON? MEIRELES IS QUALITY, JOVANOVIC, LUCAS(2ND BEST CENTRE MID? SHELVEY IS BETTER THAN LUCAS) AND MAXI ALL GARBAGE PLAYERS AND SHOULD NEVER EVER BE IN THE 1ST TEAM! AND AS FOR INSUA AS AN ATTACKING OPTION? WOW SOME OF OUR FELLOW RED FANS HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT FOOTBAL. ANY1 THINKS THAT ANY OF OUR PLAYERS APART FROM THE KEEPER THE CENTRE BACKS GERRARD, COLE AND TORRES ARE ANY GOOD YOUR DILLUSIONAL. NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR TRANMERE ROVERS


Im glad you said it mate, and for once I agree with the all caps writing, well siad.

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21 Oct 2010 10:30:54
Properly gonna get attacked now. but who is carragher trying to kid saying the whole squad is behind the manager. . if that was the case we would be winning games and in the top 4.

if it hasnt escaped your notice jamie, we us fans know u and stevie have fell out with pepe and el nino. . this manager is a joke. inviting purple nose to bid for torres too.

Get ROY OUT NOW! !

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21 Oct 2010 10:28:47
I understand that a couple of English clubs have had one time Chelsea target Sylvain Marveaux watched recently. Marveaux will be out of contract at Rennes in the summer and allowed to talk to other clubs in January. With Houllier already rivalling Liverpool's interest in Guillaume Hoarau it might be an interesting transfer window. Two Frenchmen providing the winger and striker that are wished for by the fans? I think they would provide an excellent solution at the right price.

Sharkey.

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21 Oct 2010 10:27:29
From a source within the ground. . .
Hodgson will walk after tonights game regardless of result, torres, gerrard and dalglish have ALL stayed behind to speak to Rikyard who is our next manager, and to discuss there own future's, John Dubya H trying to persuade the trio to stay. .
rikyard will be announced tomorrow.

king kenny07

Personnally I think you'llk find they are just being rested but I also hope you're right. He's a nice guy but clueless onhw to manage a big club with good players

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21 Oct 2010 10:12:35
Ed I was shouting for Rijkaard, when Rafa left and I still think given resources He would do a great job. People who say a Galatasaray failure, obviously don't see the big picture. You can not judge him after 1 season in Turkey no money to spend and an average squad of players.At liverpool he will have a underperforming squad, good young players and Owners who will back him.We need 4 players. I think he could get them. My four would be Turan, Vlaar, Emanuelson, Affelay.He would get the best out of Babel. Pacheco, Mavinga, Kelly, Ayala, Suso, Shelvey, Ngoo, would be given chances.Imo best of the youngsters we have.The deadwood Poulsen, Maxi, Aurelio, Lucas, Greek should be let go in January.Your thoughts ED?

{Editor's Note: I think you should be able to judge a manager after a season and take account of the money that is available etc.. What is much harder is seeing Hodgson judged after almost no time at all. I am also not sure that Riykaard is what the club needs right now.}

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21 Oct 2010 10:12:32
Ed, do you think we'd soon get rid of Roy Hodgson. And would be taken over by a good manager? More, he stays is more trouble, till now. . As he's making some really foolish statements! !

{Editor's Note: I always thought that he would be given longer.}

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21 Oct 2010 10:09:53
Said this the day Roy was appointed and have repeated it since.

Roy nice man, but out of his depth, poor record overall neverwon anything in a decent league, i.e. England, Spain, Italy, Germany.

High points of career two European final, lost both.

Roy hould not be manager! ! !

When first posted got 2 Believes, and 28 Un-believes

What do you say today?

rasone

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21 Oct 2010 09:57:26
We might be getting a little too excited about this. Roy was wrong in stating what he did to the press unless he is playing mind games with SAFFY? For example, if they do approach us and we say no they would look fools and have to leave with their tails between their legs. Equally if they do not approach us, people will ask why and come to the conclusion that hey cannot afford it. . . . .I still think that if Rooney can buy himeself out of his contract for £5M in the summer (Webster rule) that no one will offer big bucks for him in January. That may mean that MU will not have the funds for a high profile replacement, especially Torres.

Besides, if Torres leaves, I think he will go back to Spain where he will not be kicked so much, it is warmer and he likes the food better!

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21 Oct 2010 09:56:03
I know alot of poeple are saying they don't want rijkaard. but alot of you are saying i want all these young dutch stars to sign! i'm sure we'd have a better chance with him in charge??

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21 Oct 2010 09:51:25
Personally if people think Rijkaard is booked into a flight into Heathrow to see lawyers in London then people will see him in arrivals!

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21 Oct 2010 09:50:47
Word on the street is that NESV are looking at the possibility of bringing Rafa back to Anfield. They have an eight point plan, which doesn't include Roy, but interestingly does contain the words Rafa Benitez.

Just wait.

As for FR, it isn't going to happen.

YNWA.

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21 Oct 2010 09:48:21
It's just being reported on SSN that there was quite a bit of trouble overnight in Italy. Apparently 2 Liverpool supporters have been stabbed and there's been bottling incidents aswell.
Anfieldpete

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21 Oct 2010 09:46:12
Ed, did roy actualy say that utd have a chance of signing torres? Lmao! He really is losing it if its true.
Red bl00ded!

{Editor's Note: He made an honest statement that it would be tough to hang on to the player if Manchester United made an aggressive approach - and that is probably true, but equally probably did not need saying. Keep in mind that journalists will be asking loaded questions. The interviews with Anelka, Kalou and Terry after their game in Moscow were focussed almost entirely on the "would Rooney fit in at Chelsea" type questions.}

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21 Oct 2010 09:31:42
I can't believe what Roy said bout Torress instead of saying he is not for sale. . this guy is moron. . he doesn't know what it is to be at Liverpool fc. . he should be kicked out immediately after this comment. . what u say Ed!

Indian Fan

{Editor's Note: I think eveyone's worrying way too much over this and not enough about tonight's game.}

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21 Oct 2010 09:31:14
Not Good!

Mirror is reporting that Hodgson is still appointing staff - in this case Alan Harper as a Club Talent Scout.

Doesn't sound like a bloke on his way out of a club does it? - Gutted

Just a thought. . 3 weeks ago Rafa states he will be back to Liverpool. . last week Rafa tants about Hicks & Purslow. . . . this week Both leave. . .hmmmmm

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21 Oct 2010 09:26:20
Torres 2 utd lol . torres got fed up with our last owners not buying players . there is no way he will go through that again with utd . plus utd r on there way down , all it will take is 1 season out of champs league and their fooked YNWA

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21 Oct 2010 09:02:07
Ngog to man utd scores as many goals as rooney in a regular season and would moan less. Lol. Serious note: will things begin to change if the players are adjusting to roys way of playing then suddenly they have to adjust again to another managers style of play. Pellegrini is the man who can come in and change it. I would give roy till summer and prey the team turns it round

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21 Oct 2010 08:58:48
Why would torres go to united after fergie's abuse after the last game accusing him of trying to get oshea sent off?

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21 Oct 2010 08:44:58
O'Driscoll (the Doncaster manager) to take charge when were in the championship next season!

Don't appoint Frank, it will be like Gulliett at Newcastle

Goalsharker

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21 Oct 2010 08:40:55
I can't believe what Roy has done. He should have said that Nando is not for sale under any circumstances.He's probably already ticked the lad off for not backing him after we played the Mancs. All he's doing is unsettling the lad even more.I've backed Roy til now but he doesn't know the Liverpool way, unless he's trying to manufacture a move, which would go down like the proverbial! You do not sell your best players to main rivals. I agreed with SAF when he wouldn't sell us Heinze, it just doesn't work. If Torres went down the road to them, he would get absolute pelters, and deservedly so! I'm hoping with NESV on board we can build a team not dismantle it!

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21 Oct 2010 08:28:00
I agree Roy is starting to look amateurish how can we put out the same players using a system that isn't working what happened to pass and move I cannot blame Agger's comments about playing so direct its becoming a joke, Play people in the positions they are comfortable and change the system that clearly is not working we are predicable and boring.

4 - 3 - 3 is my vote

Reina

Agger Carra Skrtel Kelly

Meireles Gerrard Shelvey

Cole Torres Babel

Sub: Jones, Johnson, Wilson, Lucas, Kuyt, Jovanovic, Pacheco.

Players to sell: Skrtel, Rodrguez, Jovanovic, Lucas, Kyrgiakos, Konchesky, Poulsen.

Potential young signings:
Lukaku, Nolito, Matilla, Eriksen, Sakho

As for other targets we need a left back Tiawo, Defender Upson or anyone with some balls, Wingers shaun wright-phillips again we need funds, Forward (?? money).

I cannot see real quality hitting our shores in the near future but one can dream that's my 2 cents thanks for reading.

Berso.

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21 Oct 2010 08:24:44
What is it with football at the moment? I've just been watching Taggert wax lyrical about his errant want-away offspring Shrek, and he started going on about cows in fields. Then there was Rafa going on about milk.

Socrates eat your heart out.

RED LENIN
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21 Oct 2010 08:16:55
Re the Hodgson comment on Torres.

Harry Redknapp has stated that he would not sell one of his best players (Bale) at any cost.

Why isn't Roy saying the same.

Wake up Roy, you are portraying LFC as a small club who is able to be hunted. This is not the case, and we should be more bold and committed.

This is the very reason why Roy is not LFC class. Nice man, but not even close to being good enough. Can you imagine Shanks, or any decent manager with a strong back bone saying this.

It is all over the sports pages and you are making us look pathetic. Stop now Roy, STOP. . .

Ed, please comment, surely you agree that the manager of LFC should be painting a stronger picture and positioning us better than is the case today.

I don't know who is the real answer for LFC as manager, but I do know that Roy is not. . .PLease make a change as quickly as possible, someone with balls and a modern ball playing insight. Then lets all get behind the team and make Anfield a fortress once again.

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21 Oct 2010 08:15:20
For someone who has so much managerial experience Hodgson needs a listen in knowing when to shut up.

Every day he's in the paper with Torres isn't fit, Torres low on confidence etc. . then he gets involved in a conversation about ManU bidding for Torres - you know what I would've said - No chance we don't sell our top stars especially to our rivals.

U know what that statements does - it slates ManU for selling Ronaldo; It slates Chelsea for buying Benny (as we are saying his not one of our top stars - no offence Benny) and it slams Aresnal for selling there players to Man City.

He should concentrate on managing us rather than given his god awful opinion in interviews.

It's doing my head in how every fookin manager is his friend and taking points off us - what next Big Sam's Blackburn play attractive football and ensure their tackling is non contact?

FHS Torres has hardly been given a chance to shoot in the last few games - I haven't seen Hodgson slating the pile of carp that's been playing behind him.

The sooner this clown leaves the better; if players are playing carp introduce a couple of youngsters. At least i can except them making the mistakes the senior players are currently making.

I was hoping Capello would leave the England Job in the summer so that when we were linked to Hodgson he would take over England; I was wary based upon his time at Blackburn when they were more of a force.

I'd prefer Pellergrini as our new manager if I had a choice; I couldn't bear Hodgson doing some wheeling and dealing and having £20m to spend in january - You never know he may offer Man City £15m for Patrick Viera.

All those who want to give him time are entitled to their opinions but if we get relegated eat some humble pie - which is what I do if Hodgson turns this around but I can't see it myself.

So the Rumour is - In Hodgson's next interview he's not going to slate Torres; instead he's going to open his mouth to change feet!

Hoola

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21 Oct 2010 08:12:28
Paul tomkins twitter states rijkarrd in within next 5 days

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21 Oct 2010 07:57:11
Rather than dismissing the transfer totally out of hand, and saying "Our best player is not for sale", Hodgson said in a desperate attempt to keep his lovely friendship with Alex Ferguson alive: ""I think I'd have to say we'd cross that bridge when we come to it, "?? ?? ?

What the hell is going on in Hodgson's mind coming out with a statement like that! Come Roy show some common sense rather than fuelling speculation. You are letting us down, looking weak and need to grow a pair! !

RED ED

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21 Oct 2010 07:55:48
There is only one thing to say about the manager and that's King Kenny's return.

It's growing in the club rijkaard is not an option why do people think he is.

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21 Oct 2010 07:41:38
If roy had negated any possibility of man u buying torres, he would have also been negating any possibility of us getting rooney. He had to say it was possible to not get fergie's back up. Also if hed have said torres was definitely staying it would have annoyed nando, so why is this such a big deal. He's just being honest. Leave him alone you're all starting to sound like city fans. . . no testicular fortitude whatsoever go and support man u if you don't like liverpool anymore. Duckula

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21 Oct 2010 07:14:16
I agree with maybe replacing roy but why is everyone taklin the piss outta him? ? he was prob one of the only decent enough guys to come and try and sort us out when we didn't have any onwers as such. ok it hasnt gone to well but stop takin the piss out of him, he has tried his best for us and will prob get the push but at least he gave it ago.

i reckon rikaard would be a top manager at anfield, the only thing is if he doesn't win his first 5 games are we all gonna start takin the pisss and slating him? ? ?

bring back our rafa! ! !

matty b

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21 Oct 2010 06:51:24
Ed,
How can you be so sure that Roy will be replaced by this weekend.? Dont you think it ll take time for the board to identify a new manager.
And is it true that liverpool officials have contacted rijkard and pelligrini's representatives.so between both of them which 1 would you like have as a liverpool manager. I liked the way barca played during rijkard's reign but during his last year, he lost the dressing room. And pelligrini at madrid i think he knew he didn't had enough time to even let the dust settle. Board was too demanding. 96 points are not bad in la liga.

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21 Oct 2010 04:31:49
What would the Liverpool fans think about Martin Demichelis arriving in January? Sharkey

NO WAY he was sheep at the world cup watch the matches against korea and germany and you'll understand

singapore red

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21 Oct 2010 02:49:22
Next manager of Liverpool FC will be : no one
Next Coach at Liverpool FC will be: Frank Rjikaard
Next General manager of Liverpool FC: King Kenny

Ive got this from a good source. Roy will be offered a position upstairs to soften the blow as a advisor to the owners. He will not be moved (fired) until early November. What do you think Ed?

{Editor's Note: I thin Roy Hodgson would want to manage/coach so it seems unlikely to me.}

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21 Oct 2010 02:06:09
What would the Liverpool fans think about Martin Demichelis arriving in January? Sharkey.

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21 Oct 2010 01:59:50
Dalglish for Managing Director. ! !

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21 Oct 2010 01:55:11
LOL get real, its ecomony class all the way with Mr Henry*(evil Monty Burns) he will land tied and disoriented. Why let the man think we have money.lol

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21 Oct 2010 01:55:10
What did Roy say about Torres and Utd, Ed? {ed's note - the full quote is this: "I think I'd have to say we'd cross that bridge when we come to it, " said the boss when asked about the threat of United making an approach.
"I am pretty sure when a great player like Wayne Rooney is looking to leave his club, Manchester United will be in a position to target an awful lot of players around the world.
"I don't think Fernando Torres would be the only player they will be targeting or [we would be] the only club worried their star striker is going to be a target.
"They will have the opportunity to replace him with many star strikers around the world, so all I can say is I am not naive to the situation.
"I am not naive enough to think there is no danger we will ever lose a player like Fernando Torres.
"I can only hope we won't and I will make certain I do everything in my power to keep him happy at the club, help him improve his current form and to get him playing for Liverpool as he has in the past."}

never ever been a fan of roy but after that, not saying ur top man is deffo not for sale is a punk move on roys part. ! he just joind liverpool to add to his list of teams and also the money that comes along with it.

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21 Oct 2010 01:51:23
Does anybody think Bill Shankly used to speak in the manner Roy Hodgson does when we were in the old 2nd division. . . . .I think not.

Roy u haven't got a clue where u are, perhaps matron could tell you. . .

Walk away now with your head held high, please.

YNWA

JFT96

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21 Oct 2010 01:24:10
I guess rikard is the man

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21 Oct 2010 01:14:33
Frank Rijkard is favourite to replace Roy. Both he and Pelligrini have held phone conversations with certain individuals at LFC. Roy Hodgson will leave Liverpool by mutual consent by this weekend's crutial game with Blackburn. My money would be on Frank Rijkard. He has reportedly booked a flight (BA0675) from Instanbul to London Heathrow which should land at terminal five on Thursday, and he will stay in the London area until he can sign his contract at slaughter and may lawyers. Kenny Dalglish, who is well known for being one of the people in LFC which check candidates, was stopped from travelling to Napoli to watch Liverpool. If everything runs smoothly Frank Rijkard should be unveiled at the Blackburn game. Some bookies have stopped taking bets on Frank Rijkard being next LFC manager.

TomLFC
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I just hope we have the funds to fly him 1st class or buisness class at the very least. IF H&G were stil in charge then he'd be flying over with Ryan Air.

I know your getting pissed of with these manager questions ED. IF you were a betting man would you put your money on Pelligrini or Rijkaard for next manager?

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - Rijkaard would be where my money went, though I would prefer Pellegrini, so that way I would be happy whichever got the job!}

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21 Oct 2010 01:05:12
Ed. .please post this in rumours. . .

. . . Rijkaard's timely sacking seems to play straight into the hands of Liverpool's new owners New England Sports Ventures (NESV), who were - as conjecture would have it - very keen to install the former Barcelona manager as a 'big name' successor to dilapidated incumbent Roy Hodgson, who has struggled with an unmotivated outfit since being brought in as a cut-price interim replacement for the outbound Rafa Benitez during the final few months of former owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett's blighted reign at Anfield.
Is Roy Hodgson now on borrowed time at Liverpool?
NESV are thought to have backed Hodgson to oversee Liverpool's potential new dawn if the insistence of chairman Martin Broughton is anything to go by but, as we've seen before on countless occasions, 'votes of confidence' are rarely construed as anything other than ominous by the modern manager.

Rijkaard's sudden availability will surely be clanging the chimes of impending doom in the back of Hodgson's mind, especially given the unrest he has stirred by means of his negative tactical decisions and the wretched start to the season that those decisions have directly precipitated.

Fans are currently pawing for 'King' Kenny Dalglish to be re-instated, but those calls are made out of a heady mix of desperation and nostalgia. Liverpool need to advance rather than continue their saddening regression, and their are few more progressive coaches in European football than Frank Rijkaard himself.

As a coach, Rijkaard would bring with him an intrinsic propensity toward the kind of attacking, fluent and almost communal (in terms of team performance) football that Liverpool fans now so longingly pine for. He also seems to have one eye on the 'spectacle' of any given game, playing to win rather than not to lose - a concept that may now seem very distant to anyone with a vested interest in the recent goings-on at Anfield.

It seems the fates are aligning for NESV, and if they truly are going to sack Hodgson, wouldn't it make sense to do it now - considering that a ready-made replacement is now lying in wait?

. . . . Lets be honest. .it is our desperate state and nostalgia that's got us crying out for king kenny. And Rijkaard is one of the most progressive managers around. Futuristic!


SI


YNWA

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21 Oct 2010 00:47:45
Frank Rijkard is favourite to replace Roy. Both he and Pelligrini have held phone conversations with certain individuals at LFC. Roy Hodgson will leave Liverpool by mutual consent by this weekend's crutial game with Blackburn. My money would be on Frank Rijkard. He has reportedly booked a flight (BA0675) from Instanbul to London Heathrow which should land at terminal five on Thursday, and he will stay in the London area until he can sign his contract at slaughter and may lawyers. Kenny Dalglish, who is well known for being one of the people in LFC which check candidates, was stopped from travelling to Napoli to watch Liverpool. If everything runs smoothly Frank Rijkard should be unveiled at the Blackburn game. Some bookies have stopped taking bets on Frank Rijkard being next LFC manager.

TomLFC

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21 Oct 2010 00:47:30
What did Roy say about Torres and Utd, Ed? {ed's note - the full quote is this: "I think I'd have to say we'd cross that bridge when we come to it," said the boss when asked about the threat of United making an approach.
"I am pretty sure when a great player like Wayne Rooney is looking to leave his club, Manchester United will be in a position to target an awful lot of players around the world.
"I don't think Fernando Torres would be the only player they will be targeting or [we would be] the only club worried their star striker is going to be a target.
"They will have the opportunity to replace him with many star strikers around the world, so all I can say is I am not naive to the situation.
"I am not naive enough to think there is no danger we will ever lose a player like Fernando Torres.
"I can only hope we won't and I will make certain I do everything in my power to keep him happy at the club, help him improve his current form and to get him playing for Liverpool as he has in the past."}

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21 Oct 2010 00:40:35
Ed. . .this maniac surely needs to go now! Those comments he made about Torres and Man U are mental! . .Really hoping Rijkaard gets in quick cos i think as well as good football i think he'd attract quality players. . .But one good thing about getting Pellergrini would be the attention he takes with the south american leagues which is something we've never done! (but i Always flood my Liverpool team with cheap brazilians on "football manager"! ). .(am i the only one?). . . . OH. .and has no one seen Shelvey play?!. .he has to start getting time with the first team as he is DEFO our future, and can never do as bad as Lucas or Poulson! !. .


SI


YNWA {ed's note - I don't understand why Shelvey is not getting more chances, it is insanity! That lad is one of those that stands out every time you watch him play.}

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21 Oct 2010 00:33:54
Portuguese Reds Fan Here
Liverpool, please enter race to sign Bruma, City and Chelsea are after him, he's highly rated, get him before he's gone or too expensive! We all know about the last winger from Lisbon we missed out on. .

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21 Oct 2010 00:32:08
At least one newspaper (not sure which) is running a story in the morning that Liverpool are worried about Torres moving to Old Trafford. Roy has made a stupid mistake with this one. Crazy.

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21 Oct 2010 00:28:55
" Rafa will be sacked before the end of the season; he just isn't good enough! !"

Maybe you should consider the possibility that he's about to make a sensational return to you-know-where.

Nice one! Even he would not have the brass neck to do that! !

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21 Oct 2010 00:22:33
" Rafa will be sacked before the end of the season; he just isn't good enough! !"

Maybe you should consider the possibility that he's about to make a sensational return to you-know-where.

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21 Oct 2010 00:19:49
Ed. . .im sure you have been asked this quite alot but as ive been away i havnt had the chance to read the notes people have left, so here is my question. how long will it take now that frank rijkaard has left galatasary that he will become the ext liverpool manager, ive checked the bookmakers (he is not odds on) but leads the table as the next boss. what do you think. {ed's note - he is odds on in the live odds tickers on a number of sites. I have no idea how long it will take for Rijkaard (or whoever is chosen if it is not him) to be appointed, it depends on how negotiations go, but I would bet on an appointment before the weekend if I was putting my money on it.}

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21 Oct 2010 00:12:29
For those who were blind to the fact that LFC have an 'official' website, the following is a posting quoting the reasons why players are being 'RESTED'. Roy also points out; "They are perfectly okay. If I had asked them to play they would have been prepared to do so.

Ed I can't believe you have allowed yourself to be sucked into a debate like this and supporting the notion!

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Roy Hodgson has explained the reasoning behind his decision to leave Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres back on Merseyside for Thursday's Europa League clash with Napoli in Italy.

The Reds boss believes his side will be better served by having the star duo fresh for Sunday's Barclays Premier League clash with Blackburn Rovers at Anfield - and he is confident his squad has the necessary quality to secure a positive result in the absence of the pair.

Hodgson told reporters: "They are perfectly okay. If I had asked them to play they would have been prepared to do so.

"When it comes to Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres, we have an important league game on Sunday. It is my decision and I thought that it would be better to spare them this game and to give the responsibility to other players in the squad tomorrow to show they deserve their place in the Liverpool squad and that they can do the job.

"They've done well so far. In the six matches we've played in the Europa League, Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres have only played in a couple."

He added: "It was very straightforward for me because it was a question of priority. We've got four points from two games in this group, so we have started well. We have got four matches left to play to get the maybe necessary six points we'll need to qualify.

"For me, it was quite simply a priority, after recent events and our very poor start to the season. I totally agree we need a win, but I think we more badly need the win on Sunday than we do tomorrow.

"I wouldn't want to be in the situation where I'd played Gerrard or Torres and one of them got injured or was tired come Sunday and our performance suffered. I want to make certain on Sunday our performance will not suffer from tomorrow night.

"If we then lose it and people say we chose a weakened team and prioritised Sunday's game over this one, I would have to hold my hand up and say I did."

Reporters in a packed press room at Napoli's Stadio San Paolo also quizzed Hodgson on Liverpool's below-par opening to their Barclays Premier League season.

Asked how it felt to be Reds boss at this moment in time, he replied: "It's an honour to be manager of Liverpool, that's what it is. Obviously it would be a happier time for me if we were winning every game and we weren't second from bottom in the table.

"But it doesn't change the fact that I came to Liverpool because it's a great club, a great job and a great opportunity to help the club rebuild and regain former glorious positions. We still believe we can turn this situation around.

"If you ask me how happy I am, I am unhappy. But I would be unhappy at any club anywhere in the world if we were lying second from bottom in the table and only had six points from eight games."

Meanwhile, Hodgson was asked for his thoughts on the news that Christian Purslow had today decided to stand down from his temporary position as Managing Director, but will remain at Liverpool as a Non Executive Director and act as a Special Adviser to the new Owners.

"I knew when I was brought in that he was working with Martin Broughton to sell the club to the right owners to right a lot of the things they thought were wrong with the club, " he said. "I think that he worked very hard to do those things.

"His lasting legacy will undoubtedly be that he and Martin Broughton were tasked with finding new owners for the club to clear the debt and move the club on and start anew. That's something they've certainly done.

"We've got very exciting new owners who will take the club forward in the future and for that he deserves a lot of credit." {ed's note - so you expect the official site and the manager to come out and tell you if players had refused to play? Ok mate, I remember Gerrard refusing to play on the left for us but it not being mentioned on the offal.}

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21 Oct 2010 00:05:50
Does Rijkaard speak English? And Ed do you think there is a chance Kenny will work more closely with this new manager? {ed's note - yes he does speak English. No, I don't expect Dalglish to be closely involved with the new manager, I would expect all of the candidates would have their own backroom staff in mind.}

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21 Oct 2010 00:04:38
This is some of what Rafa Benitez said after the match about liverpool (the last line made me laugh):


Former Liverpool boss Benitez has also taken the time to thank those supporters who were in attendance on Wednesday who unveiled banners praising the job he did at Anfield.

He said: "It is obvious that the fans know what was going on. They know that I was fighting for them from the beginning until the last day. I am still fighting for them, so thank you to them."

On Tuesday, Benitez, who left Liverpool at the end of last season, launched into a bizarre rant at the Reds board, who he believes were responsible for driving him out.

Christian Purslow, former managing director on Merseyside, bore the brunt of his anger, despite having seen his popularity around the club rise of late after helping to push through a takeover from New England Sports Ventures.

He did, however, step down from his post at Anfield on Wednesday and Benitez could not resist the opportunity to have a cheeky swipe at his former employers.

"It was me yesterday talking about milk, " he smiled when asked about Purslow's departure.


[[ what a legend i used to always look forward when he spoke to the press at the end of match.

harry5:))

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21 Oct 2010 00:03:21
I wish people would stop talking about us bringing in new players in january when we don't even know who our manager will be!
Lets just hope the lads can get a good result tomorrow and it sets them up for sundays game.
keep the faith
Rikki

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21 Oct 2010 00:02:23
ED do you agree that Roy has done himelf no favours again when he made his Torres to Utd comments earlier? It just seems to me from day one in the job he's never said the right things about results, performance's and players etc. For someone who has been in the game for as long as he has he's sounding as if he has lost touch with reality.

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - he has made a huge error, but it sounded to me like the comment of a man who doesn't expect to be there to deal with it.}

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20 Oct 2010 23:59:26
Rafa will be sacked before the end of the season; he just isn't good enough! !

I agree with this completely. Inter are an aging team the last twenty minutes of tonights game they ran out of steam. They looked great to begin, but after half time they died. Rafa is not that good at building teams and let's face it his ability to spot talent is a bit suspect to say the least. This will be Rafa's last big job, he's made his money by being at best mediocre, the bright lights of Sc* thorpe or Port Vale will be beacon to him in the future.

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