Liverpool Rumours Archive October 01 2010

 

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01 Oct 2010 23:38:24
"Knowing Kraptalk they probably have. As this is what they do just take what has already been written by any of the associated press and put it in their members forum and charge money for it.

Blair Mayne YNWA"

Right - but Blair Mayne is Big Dunc. We all know that. "Liar By Name".

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01 Oct 2010 23:33:28
In jan liverpool will be selling lucas, maxi, babel and skrtel.

they will then be signing ashley young, owen, banega, cahill and finally signing taiwo on a pre contract.

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01 Oct 2010 21:54:40
Team line up

- - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - -

-Johnson- Cahill- Agger- Konchesky-

- SWP- -Gerrard- -Meireles- -Young-

- - - - - Torres- - - Gomez- - - - -

Subs: Jones, Carragher, Aurelio, Poulsen, Kuyt, Ngog, Pacheo.

TUT TUT TUT
no joe cole? for you to out him is a bit harsh, carly may be a bit miffed, she just chose carpets n curtains :0)
KEEP THE FAITH YNWA
PIDDY

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01 Oct 2010 21:44:03
Here some news i've found on Liverpoolfc.tv about possible targets:

Arda Turan (Galatasaray)
Gary Cahill (Bolton)
Mario Gomez (Bayern)
Ashley Young (Aston Villa)
Juan Mata (Valencia)

Possible Departures:

Diego Cavalieri
Lucas Leiva (Malaga-7m)
Phillip Degen
Alberto Aquilani (Juventus-12-14m)
Ryan Babel

Babel - could be p/ e for either Juan mata (plus 10m)
or for ashley young (plus 4m)

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01 Oct 2010 21:43:40
01 Oct 2010 19:43:26
If there are any koptalk members on here can you please tell me what the latest update is on the members site because it says club insider update on proposed RBS move. and what it says please
Ed do you know anything about this?
thanks.
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I think Kraptalk have taking this story about RBS from an article written about RBS by the Liverpool Echo.

Knowing Kraptalk they probably have. As this is what they do just take what has already been written by any of the associated press and put it in their members forum and charge money for it.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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01 Oct 2010 21:37:47
Due diligence is the detailed, in depth scrutiny of a company's accounts, operations, subsidiaries, owners etc. prior to any purchase or merger. The purpose is to prevent any unforeseen shocks coming to light after the transaction is complete.
The more complex the company (e.g. kop holdings, multiple owners, debt covenants, stadium plans) the longer due diligence will take.
Westy

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01 Oct 2010 21:35:36
Fernando Torres could leave Liverpool this season. If he goes, Man city will be favourites the sign him. A player plus cash offer could happen here, with pool getting 50 million plus SWP.

If a Torres sale should happen, Liverpool will sign Gomez and Ashley young. Young will be new left winger and Babel will go to Villa.

Team line up

- - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - -

-Johnson- Cahill- Agger- Konchesky-

- SWP- -Gerrard- -Meireles- -Young-

- - - - - Torres- - - Gomez- - - - -
thought you said deals for s.w.p.young and gomez will only happen if torres sold so why is he still in your line up if you have sold him ?

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01 Oct 2010 21:31:57
01 Oct 2010 19:50:39
Had too laugh Torres not part of Hodgsons plans what planet you on Torres would walk in any team at anytime GET A LIFE SON
REDDAN

did not say it was my view its a rumour on caught offside site and last time i looked this is a rumour site son

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01 Oct 2010 21:30:04
To Anfield Rap Star

Due Dilligence is a legal term for the process where interested parties are allowed to have a good look at the companies books. This will include all balance sheets, bank accounts and annual reports. They are allowed to do this once they have registered an interest in the company for sale. It can take many months for this to be concluded especially in a company like Kop Holdings where I suspect an awful lot of creative accounting will come out into the open. It is the only way that prospective buyers will know the true state of the company and if they will be liable for any bad debts that the sellers which to get rid off. Once this has been completed and the lawyers on both sides agree that everything has been covered then an offer can be made

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01 Oct 2010 21:19:28
Torres can be kept if Liverpool play their cards right. In my opinion Gary Cahill would be a great signing and would be the right pedigree for LFC.

LFC could get Cahill if they sell skertel. Hodgson has been excellent in the transfer window and still has money left over from the summer dealings with the sale of Masch. This left over cash is around 4 to 5 million and will cover most of the price for Cahill plus the money LFC get from skertel.
Liverpool should make a big effort (and are expected to) to get Gomez. Gomez will be the only player that LFC will buy without selling.
Young will sign for 7 million plus babel.
SWP could be bought to add an extra dimension to LFC attack.

LFC have already sold
Masch- 19m
Riera- 3.5m
Yossi-6m
Total= 28.5m

LFC signings
Poulsen- 4m
Meireles- 12m
Cole- Free
Shelvey- 2m
Total= 18m

This leaves a net profit of roughly 10m.

Possible further sales
Lucas- 7m- (woulnt like to see Lucas go)
Babel- 9m
Aqualani- 12m
Insua- 3m
Skertel- 10m
Total- roughly 40m

With the money from these sales, it should be possible to buy Cahill, Gomez, SWP and Young making a small net loss.

Sorry for not including Joe Cole and Maxi in my last comments. They are quality attacking players that add dept to LFC team.

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01 Oct 2010 21:08:23
Can anyone actually define the term due diligence. It has been thrown around on here for months in many different ways and I am beginning to wonder if anyone actually knows what they are talking about?
The Anfield Rapstar

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01 Oct 2010 20:58:22
The KopTalk website is well-known amongst Liverpool supporters for its financial exploitation of the Hillsborough disaster, for selling badly-faked and extortionately-priced signed Liverpool memorabilia and even for ticket touting. It is also notorious for making up stories about the club and its players - often potentially damaging - and in many cases demanding payment before allowing access to the stories.

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01 Oct 2010 20:47:59
Reply to the following :
01 Oct 2010 20:32:38
Liverpool now need to sell players in order to buy players.

Martin Skertel will be sold for 11 million and Gary Cahill will be his replacement for around 17 million.
Cahill will come in Janurary or will sign next season.

Liverpool will also try to sign Mario Gomez. This deal will only happen if the valuation of Gomez remains below 15 million.

Fernando Torres could leave Liverpool this season. If he goes, Man city will be favourites the sign him. A player plus cash offer could happen here, with pool getting 50 million plus SWP.

If a Torres sale should happen, Liverpool will sign Gomez and Ashley young. Young will be new left winger and Babel will go to Villa.

Team line up

- - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - -

-Johnson- Cahill- Agger- Konchesky-

- SWP- -Gerrard- -Meireles- -Young-

- - - - - Torres- - - Gomez- - - - -

Subs: Jones, Carragher, Aurelio, Poulsen, Kuyt, Ngog, Pacheo.

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HOW COME TORRES IS STILL IN YOUR LINE UP IF HE HAS TO BE SOLD FOR GOMEZ SWP AND YOUNG??

TrueRed73

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01 Oct 2010 20:32:38
Liverpool now need to sell players in order to buy players.

Martin Skertel will be sold for 11 million and Gary Cahill will be his replacement for around 17 million.
Cahill will come in Janurary or will sign next season.

Liverpool will also try to sign Mario Gomez. This deal will only happen if the valuation of Gomez remains below 15 million.

Fernando Torres could leave Liverpool this season. If he goes, Man city will be favourites the sign him. A player plus cash offer could happen here, with pool getting 50 million plus SWP.

If a Torres sale should happen, Liverpool will sign Gomez and Ashley young. Young will be new left winger and Babel will go to Villa.

Team line up

- - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - -

-Johnson- Cahill- Agger- Konchesky-

- SWP- -Gerrard- -Meireles- -Young-

- - - - - Torres- - - Gomez- - - - -

Subs: Jones, Carragher, Aurelio, Poulsen, Kuyt, Ngog, Pacheo.

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01 Oct 2010 20:10:03
To the post at19.33.18 on the rumour page if I was you I would stop reading caughtoffside mate thayt site comes up with stories about lfc everyday! Kingplfc

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01 Oct 2010 19:50:39
Had too laugh Torres not part of Hodgsons plans what planet you on Torres would walk in any team at anytime GET A LIFE SON
REDDAN

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01 Oct 2010 19:43:26
If there are any koptalk members on here can you please tell me what the latest update is on the members site because it says club insider update on proposed RBS move. and what it says please
Ed do you know anything about this?
thanks {ed's note - I don't take any notice of Koptalk to be honest, it is mostly lies made up to gain subscribers.}

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01 Oct 2010 19:33:18
Big rumour is torres who has scored only 1 goal in his first 7 games is not high on hodgsons plans for liverpools future.
hodgson wants somebody to hold up play just like zamora did at fulham and he has doubts torres is the guy for the job.
this could mean torres being sold to man city for 60 million in january with possably an effort to get wayne bridge , adam johnson or even gareth barry as part of any deal .
as for replacements roy is rumoured to be interested in bringing michael owen backfrom man utd for 4 million this is a deal that i can't see happening and allso buying edin dzenko from wolfsberg for 30 million the prolific striker at 6.3 is just hodgsons cup of tea.

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01 Oct 2010 19:10:20
01 Oct 2010 19:05:18
01 Oct 2010 13:55:19

Much of the nastiness from the press towards Liverpool over the takeover issue comes from the fact journalists are not been fed any relevant information because of confidentiality agreements signed by the Board and interested parties.
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And this is why they make up apocalyptic stories, because they don't know anything. Just as they did not know anything about Roman Ambramovich and Sheikh Mansour until those deals were done.
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Most of the London based press are Spurs ('arry this and arry that', 'he's the new Nicholson'), west ham (we won the world cup in 66), Arsenal and Chelsea fans. They have an agenda against Liverpool.

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01 Oct 2010 19:05:18
01 Oct 2010 13:55:19

Much of the nastiness from the press towards Liverpool over the takeover issue comes from the fact journalists are not been fed any relevant information because of confidentiality agreements signed by the Board and interested parties.
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And this is why they make up apocalyptic stories, because they don't know anything. Just as they did not know anything about Roman Ambramovich and Sheikh Mansour until those deals were done.

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01 Oct 2010 17:36:23
I think we should sign robbie savage to add some bite to the midfield. tbh, he can't be worst than lucas

R U ON H*CKIN DRUGS. .
I'd have my Granny playing for us before that *opper.

Sooty

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01 Oct 2010 15:21:09
Rumour of kuyt and johnson to inter, 27 mil euro's

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01 Oct 2010 13:33:21
30 Sep 2010 20:47:46

Just watched liverpool and van wolfswinkel was awfull NOT WORTH 10 million
Mata is much better value and is a better player so i yhink we should sign in mata for 15 million in jan

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I think he will need to move to one of big 3 in Holland (Ajax, PSV or Feyenoord) like Kuyt, before anyone of the big clubs in England would make a move for him. Might be a bit lightweight?

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01 Oct 2010 12:56:05
"{ed's note - I agree fully, the problem is that people saw the Man City takeover seemingly happen over night. But what they don't realise is that it took months and that Sheikh Mansour actually provided funds to buy Robinho as a statement of intent, long before he actually completed the takeover of the club.}"
It is nonsense! took months?? ? ED, when did Martin Broughton appointed as Chairman?? ? liverpool has also taken months to find buyers, isn't it? IF liverpool take over by someone TOMORROW, it also means took months! ED, pls answer me.TQ {ed's note - what has finding buyers got to do with how long it takes to be completed? That is a totally different thing, we were referring to how long it takes a buyer to complete a purchase, which is not going to be a matter of days.}

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01 Oct 2010 12:43:19
To the person who posted :

"There are I understand two offers on the table and due dilligence is almost complete. The consortiums concerned will then have to make a formal offer and once the club has made a decision, the premier league needs to be informed along with the Financial Services Authority. The paperwork that surrounds this can take several months - the FSA will do a thorough investigation into all parties especially after the mess Hicks and Gillett have caused."

1- The prem league already stated many times they only need 10 days
2- If there is a buyer why would the FSA get involve? They have nothing to do with the mess H&G , and any investigations for fit and proper owner would have already been done in parallel to due diligence (and not done by the FSA).
I agree with everything else you said in that post , but I am afraid you got that paragraph completely wrong.
By the way I am not saying an owner will be there tomorrow , but the reasons are not what you stated.

Roy

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01 Oct 2010 12:08:35
Hi All,

I don't know what Macca has written but now that we are in October I will try and put the record straight on how things will happen.

An interest payment is due this morning - this may or may not be paid, if not another payment will be put onto the clubs total debt figure.

Now to RBS.

having worked in the financial industry I know that whatever RBS have decided to do with Liverpool, will have been put into motion this morning. They are I suspect already aware as to whether Hicks will get his refinancing from elsewhere. If so that paperwork will have to be completed and the same goes for the paper work if the bank decides to take over the club. lawyers have to be consulted and so does the Financial Services Authority. This on its own will take at least a month.

There are I understand two offers on the table and due dilligence is almost complete. The consortiums concerned will then have to make a formal offer and once the club has made a decision, the premier league needs to be informed along with the Financial Services Authority. The paperwork that surrounds this can take several months - the FSA will do a thorough investigation into all parties especially after the mess Hicks and Gillett have caused.

Because of this I do not expect to see New Owners installed properly at the club until December at the earliest. {ed's note - I agree fully, the problem is that people saw the Man City takeover seemingly happen over night. But what they don't realise is that it took months and that Sheikh Mansour actually provided funds to buy Robinho as a statement of intent, long before he actually completed the takeover of the club.}

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01 Oct 2010 12:04:06
The terms of the loan to H&G are not in the public Realm, what is known is that the club was used as collateral. When and if, H&G default on the debt, ownership of the club reverts immediately to the bank. They have already put the issue into their toxic debt account. This is a statement of intent to H&G that the bank will immediately sell the club to pay off the debt. This is why the club is still for sale. Who in their right mind would pay £500m for something that will be available for less than £300m in a couple of weeks time.
Hicks has effectively shot himself in the foot as it is common knowledge that he is trying to refinance, but his problem is it is now common knowledge that the rest of the board have vetoed using the club as collateral - they have this power under the terms of the loan when RBS appointed Barcap to oversee the sale and RBS appointed Broughton. When this is just a distant dream I believe that we will have cause to thank RBS and the non Americans on the board. Slagging Broughton and Purslow for not keeping the fans informed abiut a proccess which the prospective buyers just shows a marked lack of inderstanding of the majority of non financial people of the board. This is not meant to be critical - just a statement of fact. I believe that all concerned are doing what is best for the club. They are taking their time to ensure that we don't end up with another set of greedy clowns. It' a pity Parry didn't have the club at heart. I think Moores was less at fault, but he relied on Parry's advice - he was the businessman remember. Moores was only rich because of his Grandad - not because of his business accumen.

What you guys have to remember before you get all excited about the supposed 6th or 15th oct dates is that on either date RBS cannot just say "right we are taking possesion of the club hand it over" and on the day, that will be that. Even if Hicks decides to go quietly there will be a hell of a lot of paperwork involved to gain possesion of the club most of which cannot be started until the date passes. Think about it, houses don't get repossesed in a day it sometimes takes months so something the size of that which we are talking about could take even longer! I am also of the belief that even though possession proceedings have been started if the money is found to pay the debt in the meantime, proceedings must stop. Does this give hicks even more time than we thought?
I hope that i am wrong but without sounding like a woman, I rarely am!

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01 Oct 2010 11:50:51
I firmly believe that as soon as the 15th october gets here things are going to happen, at the moment Boone knows anything except the people who are envolved just like purslow said, so I think we just need to sit tight and wait for it to happen. Nothing on the playing side of things is going to change until January, which gives us a few months for everything to be sorted and hopefully the turn of the year us going to bring a new era for lfc.


Ynwa

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01 Oct 2010 11:33:17
What you guys have to remember before you get all excited about the supposed 6th or 15th oct dates is that on either date RBS cannot just say "right we are taking possesion of the club hand it over" and on the day, that will be that. Even if Hicks decides to go quietly there will be a hell of a lot of paperwork involved to gain possesion of the club most of which cannot be started until the date passes. Think about it, houses don't get repossesed in a day it sometimes takes months so something the size of that which we are talking about could take even longer! I am also of the belief that even though possession proceedings have been started if the money is found to pay the debt in the meantime, proceedings must stop. Does this give hicks even more time than we thought?
I hope that i am wrong but without sounding like a woman, I rarely am!

Dickie Di Doh

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01 Oct 2010 10:58:22
SO WHATS THE "NEWS". . IF ANY! !

I THOUGHT TODAY ALONG WITH 6TH OCT AND 15TH WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE KEY PAY BACK DATES FOR THE PARASITES?

BIG D

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01 Oct 2010 10:53:50
It wasn't Macca who said about the 3-4 days statement it was someone else.

I made a mistake and put Macca's name to it so it should be me you are slagging off.

Blair Mayne YNWA

Thanks mate

Macca {ed's note - I will never understand why some people feel the need to abuse anyone who gives info. If you don't believe what you read then by all means say so and why you don't, but there is no need to abuse those who give it.}

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01 Oct 2010 10:52:16
If Mukesh Ambanin was to buy us, in 2014 we will be able to say we are owned by the richest man in the world.

But never going to happen, he is a business man not a charity.

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01 Oct 2010 10:48:11
" Hi Macca
May i ask
Who is your source within the club? you seem to know a lot just from reading what you, blair mayne etc post, sorry i don't post often (although i posted about the protest after the blackpool game about a hour ago!)
Dan"

Seems like Macca is trying to save his reputation here lol.

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01 Oct 2010 10:44:06
Macca, You mean 3 or 4 days when the club when the repayment is needed or close to it?, of course we will hear word from broughton its not rocket science. Yes you may be a "ticket holder" but inside info? no. I predicted when Hodgson took over that he would get Konchesky and he did but do I have inside info. .No. Guesswork and with a close circle of people who knows nobody on this site has a clue. Yes we will hear something from broughton this week. I doubt its about the sale more like Update.
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It wasn't Macca who said about the 3-4 days statement it was someone else.

I made a mistake and put Macca's name to it so it should be me you are slagging off.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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01 Oct 2010 10:36:09
Pakistan millionare Ubaitullah takeover is completed.
Stadium sharing with Everton is possibility and funding for player in Jan will be provided 50m excluding any out going players proce , Club will be runned by his son Salim Khan. .

A millionaire couldn't afford to buy Torres a haircut let alone the club, go back to school you dozy goon!

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01 Oct 2010 10:22:07
Re: vultures are circling above Anfield
Bit rich coming from "Blue Noeses". Have you got nothing better to do than coming on our forum? Thought the "bye bye Liverpool" message was rather poignant. Your acceptance of life in the Championship next year is honest. Best of luck trying to scrape your way back up next season.

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01 Oct 2010 08:38:52
Pakistan millionare Ubaitullah takeover is completed.
Stadium sharing with Everton is possibility and funding for player in Jan will be provided 50m excluding any out going players proce , Club will be runned by his son Salim Khan. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THIS IS BS. .

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01 Oct 2010 02:31:35
"Macca, You mean 3 or 4 days . . ."

We have had a summer of Macca BS. We have been within a day or two of being sold for months if you listen to Macca - but NOTHING comes true.

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01 Oct 2010 01:31:27
Macca, You mean 3 or 4 days when the club when the repayment is needed or close to it?, of course we will hear word from broughton its not rocket science. Yes you may be a "ticket holder" but inside info? no. I predicted when Hodgson took over that he would get Konchesky and he did but do I have inside info. .No. Guesswork and with a close circle of people who knows nobody on this site has a clue. Yes we will hear something from broughton this week. I doubt its about the sale more like Update.

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