Liverpool Rumours Archive October 18 2010

 

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18 Oct 2010 23:59:06
Im 100percent behind the appointment of frank Rijkaard

He just the man for the job, NESV should get him in quickly. I think he will achieve great things with liverpool and is just the man for the job. I also like his attack-minded philosophy.

Frank Rijkaard should get on a plane to liverpool quick.

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18 Oct 2010 23:58:59
Well said redfish

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18 Oct 2010 23:54:46
If the rumors about Rijkaard is true and if Liverpool Board is really looking to sack Roy and appoint him- - - -Then I'm speechless. I can't believe my beloved club has fallen this far. It's not only the fault of owners, board, managers, players. We, the supporters also have our own- - too unreal, high expectations and not understanding the situation, coming out with ridiculous ideas, blaming everyone. And all this people here. .use your head, Rijkaard's a Turkish-reject and we're seeing him as the one who can turn things around in Liverpool?

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18 Oct 2010 23:54:33
Just heard that Galatasaray will make a decision on Frank Rijkaard tomorrow afternoon.

YNWA

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18 Oct 2010 23:53:07
Hey ed i been reading online that gerrard n carra have fallen out with torres. cause he doesn't seem commited is there any truth. cause i saw carra screem at torres yesturday n torres gave some gob back so ny truth.

also is it tru roys off and where getting a new manager. thanks {ed's note - there are lots of players falling out within the club at the moment, Gerrard and Carragher are not popular right now. They have too much power and are beginning to be resented by the rest. I believe Roy will be gone sooner rather than later, within the next couple of weeks, maybe even sooner than that. That is just based on my reading up on NESV, how Roy is seen by the players and fans and the fact that if he is removed within a month of the takeover it costs less to sack him. Brings these things into focus when you hear about Strachan just ripping up his contract and not taking a penny when he and Steve Gibson spoke and decided it wasn't working out.}

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18 Oct 2010 23:53:04
For anyone advocating Frank Rijkaard, look at his managerial record with Henk Ten Cate as his assistant and then since he and Cate went their seperate ways. Then decide if you really want him at Liverpool.

Anyone with sense will see what I mean.

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18 Oct 2010 23:47:13
Out of all the managers being floated on the board my choice would be Micheal Laudrup.

Please, Please not O'Neal.

My only worry would be the fact his brother Brian has recently been diagnosed with cancer and the mental effect this has on 2 brothers that are so close. Either way get better soon Brian Laudrup you always seemed a nicfe stand up guy.

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18 Oct 2010 23:40:12
Galatasaray Vice President Mehmet Helvac has said the Galatasaray board have already discussed Rijkaards compensation.

source: Turkish newspaper

No, he hasn't resigned but the club ARE going to sack him. . .expect him to take over at liverpool by next monday.

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18 Oct 2010 23:39:38
Even as a gooner i nearly wet myself laughing huddlstone and bale lol no chance! first off their was the liverpool slagging off on youtube by bale and as for tom i sometimes walk my dog with him and his trying to get him to arsenal but app he loves the yid way of life and thinks he will stay for years yet

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18 Oct 2010 23:32:09
Redfish {ed's note - I said yesterday he had no service, I don't know what people expect, our one chance came because he beat two men in the box and had a shot.}

Exactly mate! I'll concede his touch and pace is a little off at the moment but he's been playin catch up for so long it's gonna take time. That little dummy he did when he feigned to shoot just before hittin it was sublime and just reconfirmed to me that the man is still every bit the class act he was. He can't leave until january anyway and im willing to bet he will produce some magic for us by then and all these see-saw supporters will suddenly start talkin about how much they love him again.

Redfish {ed's note - the players really need to sort out their differences between themselves, we still have the quality in the team to beat almost anyone on our day.}

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18 Oct 2010 23:22:29
Hurriyet - a turkish daily, is reporting a high profile meeting of the galatassary board to discuss the pay off for Frank Rijkaard. Seems like if it is reasonable Rijkaard may get the sack (remember he is not resigning) Rijkaard also mentioned to the media after a 4-2 loss to an Ankara side that he has no intention of resigning and was making excuse of injured players for the loss. Read into this what u want but is true and on the sports section of a turkish national newspaper called hurriyet.
Maybe he is getting the sack and coming but he aint resigning as he will forgo his compensation, greedy
press believable or unbelievable as u wish

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18 Oct 2010 23:14:52
The fan who said its gerrard's fault. get a life. he was the only to come out of yesterday's game with any credit. its too easy to blame the local lads. {ed's note - what credit? Numerous occasions he was the deepest lying midfielder yet he stood with his hands on his hips watching as Meireles and Lucas got back to defend. What happened to covering your team mates if they are out of position? He is more at fault than anyone as captain, that job comes with responsibility, he needs to remember that.}

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18 Oct 2010 23:12:08
I do understand it's the managers job to inspire or give a bollicking when needed but I don't think Hodgson lost that over night. I understand his record is average but he has lead teams to success before and is fresh off the back of an excellent run with Fulham. On the other hand i would like a manager who is attack minded after 6 years of watching paint dry. Even something like the Roy Evans era, we didn't win much trophy wise but by god was it enjoyable. Anyone remember the Newcastle games?
Adam red sox

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18 Oct 2010 23:10:41
If Roy gets the sack- - - - - Close your eyes and bring Ian Holloway. He's what we been missing in Liverpool. I see shadow of Shankly in him. He makes the people happy.

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18 Oct 2010 23:08:59
Taken from twitter - LfcGlobe can confirm NESV are in search of new manager

Looks like they may be ruthless then

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18 Oct 2010 23:07:59
For me the key issue is whether or not NESV trust Roy with their first transfer budget in January.

Don't forget, this is an important milestone for our new owners. Get it wrong and what a bunch of tw*ts they will look. Get it right and we're all marching onwards together with a positive winning outlook.

So, do they go with Roy. . or bin him and get their own man in who will (hopefully) make a positive impact.

Personally, thanks Roy. .take Poulsen with you.

Frenchy.

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18 Oct 2010 22:59:52
If old dutchy comes is he the answer the turks are struggling in 9th place and he will probably bring kewell and baros back to liverpool with him

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18 Oct 2010 22:59:18
Galatasaray got beat at the weekend. also failed to qualify for the europa. fans screaming for his head.
sounds like roy got a better record.

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18 Oct 2010 22:57:12
I think the problem is Gerrard! He's falling out with the other players, and underminding the manager at every turn. The board need to back roy (or whoever) and sort this player power issue. If the players are revolting against the manager, then this shows disrespect to our club.

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18 Oct 2010 22:56:33
Have been all over the internet and the only site mentioning a change of manager or anything happening in Turkey, is this one. RH will be the manager for sometime yet! {ed's note - it was all over Twitter mate, that is why I thought she must be onto something.}

Chinese Whispers ED, nothing more than that. . {ed's note - probably mate, the problem is these days it is hard to tell and it is easy to get caught up when someone who should know better gets fooled too. Especially knowing Carragher and Gerrard are keen on him, you end up putting 2+2 together in your mind and coming up with 8, then 15, then 80 and by the end of an hour of it you get swept along and you are getting £45m to spend.....}

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18 Oct 2010 22:55:12
Chris {ed's note - I am not confident, my friend says that her friend is adamant that the staff at Gala know he is gone from there, and that the rumour going round is that he is just negotiating his pay off. But she says the Liverpool thing is purely a rumour that he is telling her and not a definite, but that is the belief amongst the staff that he will end up there. So sounds like 2+2=22 and not any real knowledge that he is going to join us, just an educated guess by staff.}

Ed, so you think its rubbish?

Chris {ed's note - I am beginning to think so, I think she was sold a dummy. Probably the guy trying to find an excuse to get her out on a date with him, I have seen the lengths they go to with her, she is a bit of a looker.}

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18 Oct 2010 22:52:47
To everyone,
What or who do we blame if Hodgson goes and Rijkaard comes in and we don't get any better? Do we blame the kitman next?, the colour of the jersey?(that old united beauty). We have international players in every position on the park putting in lacklustre displays, arguing with each other in front of our eyes instead of pulling there socks up and grinding out some results. For me that's the bottom line, not whos in the dugout, players need to play with pride. Roy Hodgson didn't take that away from the players(don't get me wrong he was never the right man for the job). I'm really sick of excuses to be honest. We are Liverpool F.C and we deserve much better from players who earn more in one week than most in a couple of years. The players are a disgrace!

is it not the managers job to inspire and to get the best from his players. is it not the managers players to not accept lacklustre performances and to kick thier arses when required. I just hope he is not accepting this sh* e behind closed doors and is trying to get them to string 2 passes together! !

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18 Oct 2010 22:52:05
18 Oct 2010 22:42:57 Liverpool Rumours "To everyone,
. . Do we blame the kitman next?, the colour of the jersey?. . "

Funny you mention the jerseys. Proper Gaylord skintight in my opinion.

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18 Oct 2010 22:51:57
I have been all over the internet and the only site mentioning a change of manager or anything happening in Turkey, is this one. RH will be the manager for sometime yet! ! {ed's note - it was all over Twitter mate, that is why I thought she must be onto something.}

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18 Oct 2010 22:42:57
To everyone,
What or who do we blame if Hodgson goes and Rijkaard comes in and we don't get any better? Do we blame the kitman next?, the colour of the jersey?(that old united beauty). We have international players in every position on the park putting in lacklustre displays, arguing with each other in front of our eyes instead of pulling there socks up and grinding out some results. For me that's the bottom line, not whos in the dugout, players need to play with pride. Roy Hodgson didn't take that away from the players(don't get me wrong he was never the right man for the job). I'm really sick of excuses to be honest. We are Liverpool F.C and we deserve much better from players who earn more in one week than most in a couple of years. The players are a disgrace!
Adam red sox

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18 Oct 2010 22:41:05
Guess what GOD as just got sacked

guess where he is going? ?? ?? ?? ?

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18 Oct 2010 22:40:25
Thank for clearing that up ed. now when the new manager is unveiled and im not comfirming the frank rijkaard is liverpools new manager, but there was always going to be a change. we need to get behind him, and respect the new owners decision to have their own man in charge. and i wouldn't feel to sorry for roy im sure he will got a few £££'s to send him on his way. however i will agree player power is out of control, and as much as it pains me to say, taggart down at old toilet has got it right. perfect example being that spoilt brat rooney.

always a red

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18 Oct 2010 22:39:29
Ed, rijkaard, are you confident its happening? And also, if woy does go i would expect him possibly for boro, my theory earlier was a shout but i think its very possible.

Chris {ed's note - I am not confident, my friend says that her friend is adamant that the staff at Gala know he is gone from there, and that the rumour going round is that he is just negotiating his pay off. But she says the Liverpool thing is purely a rumour that he is telling her and not a definite, but that is the belief amongst the staff that he will end up there. So sounds like 2+2=22 and not any real knowledge that he is going to join us, just an educated guess by staff.}

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18 Oct 2010 22:38:35
Ed if rikjaard comes and gets a vast amount of money who do u think his transfer targets would be including turan? {ed's note - I really couldn't tell you mate, I haven't seen what kind of players he chose for Gala to get an idea.}

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18 Oct 2010 22:38:35
I think if we get enough money it should be spent well. Nothing fancy or any other players suggested here (Some of em ridiculous, ex: Kaka, Parker) . Go plain and simple. Buy players who are solid, class, and understands English football and Liverpool. I think we should go for:

Albrighton- -Young, has pace and skill, with a little nurture I'm sure he'll turn out to be a bright player. And we can get him cheap if we move fast. (Also consider:Honda, Kranjcar, McGeady, Lennon, Turan)

Henderson: He's a real talent and prospect. (Also consider: Huddlestone, Charlie Adam, Dzagoev, Cattermole)

At left back Jansen or Ziegler looks good.
- -Kelly and Derby to get more games. We should stop playing Carra every single match, he should be used as Giggs, when experience is needed.

Shawcross: Many will disagree but he's a class and has bright future ahead of him. Also a leader and got experience. I'd also like to see Phil Jones in Liverpool. (Consider: Clark-Aston Villa, Dann, RJohnson and Ridgewell- - Danny Wilson must get games to improve.

We need a solid, pure striker. I think we should spend good amount here. Maybe try for Dzeko , Aguero or Suarez. though it's quite risky. If we get one of them that'd be great. Whether we get them or not we should still look for one more, maybe Carroll, Wickham, Payet, Gignac, Toivonen, Wolfswinkel, Lloriente or Fernandez with Ngog and Torres.

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18 Oct 2010 22:38:12
The dreaded vote of confidence!

18 Oct 2010 22:21:12
John Henry has reiterated that RH's job is safe and that he will be given time to put things right. So all this new manager speculation, is a load of B*ll*ck's.

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18 Oct 2010 22:37:07
Since his long ball outburst in Denmark Hodgson has only spoken once to Danny Agger, to tell him to find a new club,
Get rid of this Manager now before he causes irrepairable damage to our great club

TheBigCheese
JFT96

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18 Oct 2010 22:35:55
We all kind of knew that Roy would be there for the long haul. I guess if he had come in and got the team playing the right way, expressing themselves and getting the best out of the poor squad he inherited he may have been giving the Job of rebuilding the team. But as nice as the man is and how well he is respected in the game I think the job is just too big for him. . We are LFC and we expect better. . .
I guess if he is to go as the rumours are suggesting I guess nothing is gained by dragging it on. Let thank him for his efforts and look to the future with a young attack m nded manager who will freshened up the tired looking squad and hopefully bring in some quality in January. .

Kev the Red

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18 Oct 2010 22:35:54
Rijkaards agent quoted as saying ther has been no contact with Liverpool and he is still manager at Galatasaray. I haven't found a single news source carrying any anything about Rijkaard resigning. {ed's note - I wonder if the same person who told my friend he was gone and off to Liverpool has sparked it all? Could it really be a huge chinese whisper?}

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18 Oct 2010 22:33:44
John Henry has reiterated that RH's job is safe and that he will be given time to put things right. So all this new manager speculation, is a load of B*ll*ck's.

Rafa left our club in utter turmoil and destroyed any moral, team work etc etc. The structure of the club is in a mess and will take time to put it right. We have no real youth system anymore, Rafa got rid of any coach that questioned his judgement. Its not just a case of getting in right on the pitch, it goes far deeper than that. John Henry is 100% right in what he has said today. We have thrown money at it before and were has it got us. Remember this, we came to this crisis because Rafe failed to give us Champions league football, we have no chance of gaining that level of income for sometime. So we will have to strip back and get back to the basics and rebuild the club. Hopefully we will stay up and keep going forward. But sacking RH will only make things worse, much worse.

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18 Oct 2010 22:32:10
Vote of confidence is worse thing Roy coulda got. There has to be something there.right ed's? God knows what carra and stevie said to John and Tom. I'm thrown my name in the ring too anyone got Mr.Henrys number. {ed's note - I think he is just there until someone is found to replace him myself. The new owners have been told by the players and the fans that Hodgson is not the man to do the job, I don't think they intended to keep him anyway. I don't know what Stevie and Carra said now, but I do know that in the summer they recommended a few (including Rijkaard) that they thought should be given the job. I can't see them backing Roy, their performances this season have shown they don't want him.}

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18 Oct 2010 22:30:10
Its looking like Rikjaard or Kenny will be in in the next few weeks or so.

Either way, Turan will likely come in January because:

A) He (at least before the summer) expressed a desire to come here.

B) Rikjaard wants to continue to work with him.

C) Kenny rates him.

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18 Oct 2010 22:29:36
"otherwise it would be all over ssn , they get it all" The same people that swear Ryan Babel was on a helicopter tour on deadline day ?

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18 Oct 2010 22:27:31
Ed, a thought. .

3million pay out for hodgson, rijkaard on his way, middlesborough sack strachan, maybe its been known for a little while? Just a random from me

Chris {ed's note - Strachan went because Boro were crap last season and despite being the biggest spenders in the CCC were even worse this season. This was nothing to do with any managers becoming available, just Steve Gibson accepting it wasn't working and Strachan agreeing. But it was well known Hodgson was only a stop gap when he was appointed, after all he wasn't the only man to be interviewed in the summer.}

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18 Oct 2010 22:24:40
Chris {ed's note - well it would indicate to me that the players couldn't be bothered to try for a manager they didn't want.}

which as i agree is wrong, in any job, a new manager comes in and naturally you try your best, but obviously being paid loads of money gives you that right. .

Chris

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18 Oct 2010 22:22:59
Plz put on rumour so can see bel and unbel. .

But all this rijkaard talk is utter rubbish , otherwise it would be all over ssn , they get it all , they have people all over the world so they would know . . also people saying hes resigned at gala . .crap that is hes still there and intends to stay there! !

Keep going ed , doing a good job , addicted to the site :L

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18 Oct 2010 22:21:12
John Henry has reiterated that RH's job is safe and that he will be given time to put things right. So all this new manager speculation, is a load of B*ll*ck's.

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18 Oct 2010 22:13:53
18 Oct 2010 22:10:05
Rijkaard flying to england? Ed any gossip?

Chris {ed's note - all I know is that he was recommended by Carra and Gerrard, sad day when the players pick the manager rather than the other way round.}

Ed, if that is the case then i agree, it is wrong and they shouldn't be calling the shots, but surely that would also indicate that hodgson just doesn't cut it?

Chris {ed's note - well it would indicate to me that the players couldn't be bothered to try for a manager they didn't want.}

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18 Oct 2010 22:13:37
Think he as resigned after galas last game a reporter ask the Galatasaray Vice President Mehmet Helvacı, said that an extraordinary meeting was to be held on Monday and any manner of decision could be made there.

whether it means he comes to liverpool who knows lets wait and see

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18 Oct 2010 22:12:26
Ed or any1 where are you reading the rijkaard rumours from, im not saying its not true i would just like to read it for myself

always a red {ed's note - I am getting it from a Turkish lady that used to work for an advertising agency that handled Gala's needs. She still keeps in touch with the club and is a Liverpool fan and so she was given the nod saying he is going to manage Liverpool from one of her friends within the club. But it is all over twitter etc too so I believe it to be true.}

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18 Oct 2010 22:12:22
Who would welcome rafa back? I know it wouldn't happen just interested what you think. Believable for yes etc

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18 Oct 2010 22:11:52
Turkish media claiming Rijkaard will be next LFC manager

Chris

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18 Oct 2010 22:10:23
Ed anymore depth about this Rijkaard rumour.? The thing i know is that the fans were prosteting against him after Galatasaray's defeat against a middle-table club. Personally I think a manager of his calibre would be great for Liverpool, but the only draw back is that he has not a loads of success with Galatasaray. But hey we are not Galatasaray after all maybe he can be the answer to our problems we'll see. {ed's note - he likes to play good attractive football, he hasn't been particularly successful since leaving Barca but I would just be glad to enjoy watching us play. I have been trying to call his agent but he is not returning my calls so I can't get anything from his side but it does look like he is about to take over.}

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18 Oct 2010 22:10:05
Rijkaard flying to england? Ed any gossip?

Chris {ed's note - all I know is that he was recommended by Carra and Gerrard, sad day when the players pick the manager rather than the other way round.}

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18 Oct 2010 22:01:24
According to a friend of mine in the Sos, they told Henry that tey didn't think Hodgson is good enough for liverpool, just look at the results, and needs to be replaced.So there could be something in the rijkard rumours.

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18 Oct 2010 22:00:03
This Rijkaard this is picking up pace. . lots of pace in fact, Ed, your thoughts? {ed's note - like I said, I didn't expect Roy to stay in the job for long, though I have to admit I didn't have a clue who was going to replace him or how quickly it would happen. There was no way he was going to stay though, in this day and age the players are in charge and they didn't want Hodgson. I still don't know for sure it is Rijkaard but he was one that Gerrard and Carragher were both keen on as the manager, I think it will say it all about who runs the club if he is appointed.}
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Wouldn't be a massive shock, but it can only be bad for the club if the players are calling the shots. Even if they are living legends.

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18 Oct 2010 21:58:34
Re this:
18 Oct 2010 21:29:06

Ed what is all this about gerrard and carra runnin things?is this your opinion or fact?and did them to have much to do with rafa goin an hodgson coming in?
{Editor's note - I am a different Ed and am only covering for now so do not know what was said earlier}
I think that he was referring to them havin alot of say like raul/ guti at Madrid they were the downfall of many Madrid manager who was afraid to drop them. Happens alot at clubs who have had influential players at there clubs since there early teens. Maldini/ costcurta
Look how well Madrid are doing and what was the 1st thing mourinho did but rid the problem. Now I wouldn't get rid of them coz I think they still have too much to give but I would appoint a strict no nonsense manager. Hope this is what the ed's point was.heard a local lad on about the same thing during the summer in Liverpool.
Fowler is god {ed's note - they run the club mate, they have far too much power and it needs to stop or we will always struggle. They are players and that is what they should be concentrating on doing, it is not like they are even doing that job all that well at the moment!}

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18 Oct 2010 21:57:36
Frank Rijkaard has resigned from Galatasary & will be the new Liverpool manager if this is true maybe the new owners are listening if they are listening then they like to act quickly

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18 Oct 2010 21:54:18
This Rijkaard this is picking up pace. . lots of pace in fact, Ed, your thoughts? {ed's note - like I said, I didn't expect Roy to stay in the job for long, though I have to admit I didn't have a clue who was going to replace him or how quickly it would happen. There was no way he was going to stay though, in this day and age the players are in charge and they didn't want Hodgson. I still don't know for sure it is Rijkaard but he was one that Gerrard and Carragher were both keen on as the manager, I think it will say it all about who runs the club if he is appointed.}

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18 Oct 2010 21:50:09
If rikjaard does become next manager expect turan to sign ;)

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18 Oct 2010 21:44:47
This is theturdz speaking
breaking news frank ryckard resigns from galatsary to take lfc job this is fact from theturdz also gerro and carra have massive bust up with torres
ed get this on asap theturdz first yet again with all the real info on lfc

Sorry mate but Gerrard and Torres fell out weeks ago

Scally13

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18 Oct 2010 21:44:14
Turkish media reporting Rijkaard has resigned and is set to become the new LFC manager

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18 Oct 2010 21:43:07
Rumour has it Rijkard in by the weekend!

Runcorn Red!

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18 Oct 2010 21:42:11
Turkish media reporting Rijkaard has resigned and is set to become the new LFC manager


Deagster.

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18 Oct 2010 21:34:55
This is theturdz speaking
breaking news frank ryckard resigns from galatsary to take lfc job this is fact from theturdz also gerro and carra have massive bust up with torres
ed get this on asap theturdz first yet again with all the real info on lfc

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18 Oct 2010 21:32:55
Liverpool will sign brazilian striker Luiz Adriano from Shaktar Donetsk. The 23 yearold striker is fast , strong and clinical in front of goal. He would cost around 10- 13 million depends on how muck Roy wants him.

LFC 4 Life

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18 Oct 2010 21:25:08
Steps required 4 sucess:
1. ask roy to adopt more offensive tactics and turn our luck around or sak him. bring in daglish as short term replacement
2. play 4-4-2 and do as gud as possible until january with the squad we hav
3. in january buy affelay (pace, skills, flair and wants to come), honda (flair, attack minded, versitile, creative), gomez/ llorente (tall, strong, target man, ideal for prem) and defour (creative, versitile, young, born leader) and sell poulsen, lucas and maxi

If these changes are made i believe we would hav a better chance of reaching the europa league and beyond this season, and title contenders for next season if more deadwood is sold in summer

Team til jan:
reina
kelly carragher agger konchesky
johnson/ cole gerrard meireles babel/ jova
torres babel/ jova

After jan:
reina
Kelly carragher agger konchesky
affelay gerrard defour honda/ cole
torres gomez/ llorente

e.h lfc

p.s plz put in rumours so i can view bels and unbels

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18 Oct 2010 20:53:37
Liverpool should buy
kaka
defour
lopez
afellay
and sell:
kyrgiakos
poulsen
maxi
insua

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18 Oct 2010 20:53:12
New squad
REINA. . . . .LAHM. . . . .A.JOHNSON. .TORRES
WESTWOOD.JOHNSON. . TURAN. . . . .SUAREZ
GULACSI. . . DARBY. . . . AMOO. . . . . LLORIENTE
BOUZANIS. . TAIWO. . . . STERLING. . WICKHAM
HANSEN. . . .MAVINGA. . MATA. . . . . .PACHECO
. . . . . . . . . ROBINSON. .COLE. . . . . .FERNANDEZ
. . . . . . . . .KONCHESKY. INCE
. . . . . . . . .CARRAGHER. .BRUNA
. . . . . . . . .AGGER. . . . .BALE
. . . . . . . . .CAHILL. . . . .PARKER
. . . . . . . . .HANGELAND. .SPEARING
. . . . . . . . .KELLY. . . . . .ALONSO
. . . . . . . . .AYALA. . . . . DE FOUR
. . . . . . . . .WILSON. . . . .GERRARD
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .SHELVEY
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .MEIRELES {ed's note - Wickham for £6m? If we could get him for that we would be working miracles mate. I would love to see this lad play for Liverpool, he is a fan and a great target man for the future. But Ipswich would probably ask too much for him, that is why I have never suggested him as a potential purchase.}

i might have agreed at the start of year maybe 10 million needed but keane does not see him in plans and wants to cash in to get promoted.
think we can do a deal maybe some players going on loan he is class we can't miss out {ed's note - I have not heard that mate, if you are right we should definitely look at him.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:53:08
MB to step down after sale completed as per sky news

Lee

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18 Oct 2010 20:51:55
Cant stress the importance of getting behind the team at the moment 'no knee jerk decisions will be made in the coming months.time will be taking to carefully address the situation within the club (all staff included)to see what areas need to be improved.as i have said the playing staff needs to change & will 'but forget the the rumours as the players coming in will be kept as close a secret as the new owners were 'thus keeping inflated prices down.so lets get down to basics @ get behind the lads. lfc forever

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18 Oct 2010 20:50:58
Hi all,

I have attempted to post several times but never had a post, well posted. Anyway ED, why is this. . Only mucking mate, right back to the rant. Why is everyone looking at Roy, we have looked a far weaker side since Sammy Lee returned, for me he is not a quality coach, we need to revise the coaching staff rather than lookin at ousting Roy.

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18 Oct 2010 20:50:46
Hodgson Out For Definate.
We Should Look To Replace Him With Someone Like:
Kenny Dalglish
Manuel Pellegrini
Guus Hiddink
Ottmar Hitzfield
Frank Rijkaard
Martin O'Neil
Marcello Lippi
Felix Magath
Joachim Leow
Rafa Benitez? Shock Return!

I would prefer Kenny on Interim basis and then maybe a move for Hiddink as he is experinced and able enough for the Liverpool Recuperation

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18 Oct 2010 20:48:35
Ed's note - Everton are an average side, they are not top 5 material, the team they had out yesterday we should be looking to beat
they had pienaar, rodwell, fellani and saha missing. .
when you say we should beat them we have no devine right playing like the way we have.Putting the ball in the onion bag more times than the other team, counts for everything.If average is mid table then everton are better than average. {ed's note - that was why I said the team they had out yesterday. Pienaar is their best player, Rodwell is a top class youngster and Saha is their only decent striker. Without those 3 they are much weaker, weak enough that the team Liverpool had out should be good enough to beat them. Especially considering the high they should have been on following the takeover. By the way in case you have missed the table, Everton are mid-table, which is average.}

"If Everton were playing down the bottom of my garden, I'd draw the curtains."
Bill Shankly quote

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18 Oct 2010 20:45:21
Ed are have gerrard and torres fallen out because against sunderland when gerrard scored the header set up by torres he ran by torres to celabrate and torres ran back to the centre circle it so unlike them they always embrace each other and they don't seem to beplaying for each other no link ups at all! ! {ed's note - a lot of the players are falling out at the moment, Gerrard and Carragher have too much to say for themselves considering how poorly they have played of late. They have way too much power and it is going to continue to cause problems until it is sorted.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:43:56
Ed is it not true the new owners said they were going to listen to what the fans want? if so then surely woy should be sacked as a priority, well ive been going over the the managers who would either take the job or are free and the ones i would love to take the job. well for me no way should kenny get the job, oniel not a hell in chance surely. would love hiddink, van gaal, or joachim loew(spelling)

but would van gaal leave bayern don't think so

hiddink is he managing turkey, if so why not try for him

loew would love him as his style of play looks quality and would no the german market where he is getting all the quality youngsters from

for me the team is only a few decent players away from making top 4 but more importantly we are lacking in confidence and the big egos in the club are dragging us down cause they can't be arsed to graft. so why not cash in on some of them either in jan or the summer, well the rumour has it gerrard aint played in europe is he wants out in jan well i don't believe he does i think he is baffled by everyone else around him. we sign joe cole on 90k a week and he has done jack s* t

players we need

benega/ defour mid 12m-12m
taiwo/ gibbs lb 7m-10m
llorente/ bent str 35m the pair
mata, turan, marin, muller, elija, affelay 10m&babel, 12m, 15m, 20m, 11m, 7m

so i think 5 players out of the ones posted but i no it will cost a bit about 75mill, but if we sold

jova-7m
maxi-5m
lucas-7m
poulson-4m
konk-3m
aqua-14m
kuyt-10m
deadwood-10m
total-60m ish so the owners would have to chuck in about 20m or so
starting 11 would then be

. . . . . . . reina. . . . . .

kelly. . .wilson. .agger. . taiwo

marin. . gerrard. . .benega. . mata

. . . . .bent. . .torres

bench:jones, carra, johnson, meireles, pacheco, llorente, shelvey

but seems as we won't do it i see people asking about pennant plse no i would rather jarvis of wolves and think he would actually be very good in our team

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18 Oct 2010 20:43:09
Hopefully Liverpool will buy and sell in January

Dann
Tawio
Honda
Defour
Lisandro lopez
Lorente/ traore

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18 Oct 2010 20:42:10
Re. other managers out there:

One not mentioned is Slaven Bilic
I saw him on MOTD 2 last season analysing a poor Liverpool performance and he put it quiet simply. He basically said there is no problem playing with one stirker and two defensive mid fielders but if you do the full backs must attack with the midfielders covering them if they go. Otherwise what is the point. He went on to say that at some clubs you look at your players and decide that the are defensively strong and so you play defensively, at others if the squad has attacking merits you play attacking football. But at a club the size of Liverpool your team must play both when it has or hasn't the ball.

It was refreshing to hear a manger remind us that football is a simple game and to speak about playing a balanced brand of football.

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18 Oct 2010 20:41:22
RE: Roy Hodgson.> HEY! We signed this guy on the count of his European run last year.

You should read up on his record. He has done more than just getting to the final of europa league comp. He has lead countries. So i figure he must of built up a few cotacts and have a couple of aces up his shelve. Give Hodgson a chance in the transfer market and on the pitch.

He has now tested the team, figured out who he can trust and who needs to leave for what-ever-reason. Sometimes people don't click together. He will look to get some good players in within the next two years and remove some big egos likes of gerrard and torres who are killing the club.

Can you actually read your own comments?
Before Liverpool, would Man U, Chelsea, Barca or Real Madrid poach him as a future manager? Course not. But he's ok for Liverpool. Remind me again about Blackburn, Inter of Fulhams league position!
Is this Liverpool's worst run in 57 years?
Are Liverpool going to challenge champions league place with him?
Do the players look like they want to play for him?
I say if Hodgson is your choice then you don't know much about football.
As for Hodgsons record. . Mclaren is making a similar one so I guess on your judgment Mclaren should be Hodgsons successor

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18 Oct 2010 20:39:39
I wouldn't bet against the owners giving Dalglish the job, I know he has been out of the game for a long time but his CV is second to none in regards to LFC. Just picture the owners looking back over our great history and seeing what Dalglish has achieved and he still at the club. Maybe I'm just being sentimental but give King Kenny the job.
Aroc

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18 Oct 2010 20:38:30
I agree with you ed sean o'driscoll is a fine manager an loves to play expansivr football, but in todays climate a big name is needed for a massive club like liverpool
ed what are your thoughts on o'driscoll or sumone similar bein brought in as a number 2, work alongside a top class manager an go down the boot room road which has served us so well in the past as someone else pointed out in an earlier post {ed's note - I would be happy with that, though I am not convinced a big name is needed, I think we just need to bring the players back down to earth.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:37:43
Ed do you think kenny is at the match scouting bent?? {ed's note - I doubt Sunderland would sell him to us to be honest. I think he is there taking the opportunity to return to Blackburn and scout them ready for the next league match.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:36:54
He has been burnt letting youth play in the league cup. So is he now against the idea all together. Who would want to be a manager, every decision meets with boo's.

In the league cup he played an entire squad of youth players with almost no senior players. He also had none on the bench as a back up plan. Youth players don't learn by playing with each other, they learn by playing with the more experienced members of the team. If Roy just wanted to see them in action he should have watched a reserves match, they should be in the first team to gain experience.

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18 Oct 2010 20:36:49
After the start RH has realised that alot of players arent good enough and the new owners realise he needs more money to rebuild in jan and because teams don't like to sell in jan some will be in the summer.Leaving will be: CB Agger, CB Kyrgiakos, CM Lucas, CM Poulsen, CM Aquilani (summer), LM Jovanovic, RM Babel.
That leaves us needing: CB, CB, LB, CM, CM, LM, LM, RM, ST.
The targets are:
CB:Cahill, Shawcross, Hangeland
LB:Taiwo, Cissokho, Emmanualson,
Coentrao
CM:Parker, Annan, Banega, Martinez, Sissoko
RM:Sanchez, Mata, Navas, N'Zogbia, SWP,
Afellay, Pablo
LM:Young, Dzsudsak, Marin, Payet, Turan
ST:Llorente, Gomez, Cole, Carroll,
Aguero(unlikely ), Dzeko (unlikely), Suarez, Lopez, Gomis,
Benzema, Cleo

His ideal signings being: Cahill, Hangeland, Taiwo, Banega, Annan,
Young, Afellay , Mata, Gomez

alexandre L

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18 Oct 2010 20:36:16
Ed i don't know if its me or not but Torres has lost his sharpness and doesn't look fast any more he couldnt even beat distin for pace i expect him to leave in january and if not in the summer what about you? BelfastRed {ed's note - until we know who will be in charge of us in January we won't know what will happen with anyone.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:33:12
18 Oct 2010 20:12:18
Lacina Traor looks like a Roy Hodgson signing. Looks like Zomra. Hes a bigstriker who is playing CFR Cluj

FINALLY somebody who agrees with me!, i have been saying this for ages now, he is a good striker like a cross between eto'o and adebayor minus the attitude to my knowledge arsenal went for him in the summer.

Dan

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18 Oct 2010 20:31:00
{ed's note - I really, really, really don't want O'Neill. He doesn't give youth players a real chance, his teams play terrible, unattractive football and I don't like him at all. I have respect for him for leaving the game to take care of his wife and I am sure as a person away from football he is a nice guy. But, as a manager, he is an arrogant, over-excitable, clueless man who spends his entire time asking for more money to buy players which he then doesn't play.}

He came into the hairdresser's where my sister works before he was unveiled at Villa Park, she washed his hair. Apparently he's a light tipper.

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18 Oct 2010 20:30:46
Just as shocking as our performance yesterday, i nearly gagged on my 12th beer last night when i read the ed's note regarding Sean O'Driscoll.

Seriously ed, i agree with some of your comments or at least acknowledge your angle but really. .? I'm wondering one of two things happened with you yesterday. 1) you found a little white pill on the floor in the nightclub or 2) You walked into the door frame and banged your head really hard or 3) both.

The shift in power has moved totally to the players. Unfortunately whether we like it or not, players nowadays will not play for a manager they have zero respect for.

And the method these modern players use is also barmy. Mourinho cannot do anything wrong. Every player regardless of whether they have played under him or not just wants to play for him. He did nothing of any note on the playing side, plays a style of football i do not like and he comes across as arrogance personified. Yet he is seen as the one manager everyone will play for.

The big players on the scene at the moment must have a manager of equal statue in their eyes, otherwise they just will not perform, will not sign and just will not go that extra yard.

We've all experienced it in our football lives surely? One manager who for whatever reason you'll run through a brick wall for and the next one you struggle to turn up on time for training.

In my opinion Shanks and Sir Bob would struggle in the current climate. Instead of having players like Yeats, St John, Keegan, Toshack, Smith, Hansen, Dalglish, Case (who were bigger and better than anything currently on show) having the utmost respect for their managers and looked at their managers like Gods, you have Torres, Gerrard, Mascherano, Babel, Riera, Voronin calling the shots and moaning everytime they get dropped or shouted at.

This is the sad world of football we are now in when the present day bastion of Management respectability is taken on by a 24 year old scouser who's only been there 5/ 6 years and is now calling the shots.

Roy Hodgson has already lost the fans and the players by the look of it because he didn't have enough respect points lodged in the bank.

I doubt the likes of Mourinho, Hiddick, Ancellotti, Van Gaal will suffer such a fate. They may have earned this, they may not have but players will play for certain managers. This maybe the ultimate criteria nowadays. Not how good their coaching skills are but whether they can get the best of the players.

Lets face facts Redknapp is no great shakes as a manager but he gets his players playing. Fergie the same (if slightly, slightly better manager), Mourinho is the classic. And to some degree Capello who has actually managed to get a scouser to play better for Country than club.

All you hear from Gerrard is how much respect Capello is given by him. Perhaps a swap?

Bob the Red (spit that tablet out ed) :)

O'Driscoll? I think Gerrard & Co would retire in an absolute second {ed's note - then we would be well rid of any player that wasn't prepared to put the effort in. We don't need arrogant players that think they are in charge, that is why we are so poor as it is. Players that have played for O'Driscoll love him, look at Sharp being offered 3 times the money by other teams this summer but he turned it down to return to Donnie to play under O'Driscoll. If he is given the full backing of the board, meaning the removal of Gerrard and Carragher if necessary, or any other player that doesn't want to play for him, then that is fine with me.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:27:32
Ed have you heard of or know anything about Benot Trmoulinas a french left back mate of mine said we should look to him as a long term answer to left back but I have no idea how good he is? {ed's note - I have not seen him play to be honest, I don't get to see a lot of French football. He is highly rated though.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:26:41
I don't know why we don't sign Pires on a 1 year deal. He's a free agent so we could sign him now as we didn't submit a 25 man squad. What do you think ed?

Gav the red {ed's note - he would provide a bit of creativity and we sadly lack that, but surely that is why we signed Cole? So, if you are suggesting Pires, does that mean you would want to be rid of Cole already?}

I'm just thinking Cole could play Right & Pires left with Gerrard, Mereiles & Lucas in midfield. That's a more creative midfield which can switch from 4-3-3 to 4-5-1

Gav the red

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18 Oct 2010 20:26:34
Keegan. Right fit,

ok hes a bit of a looker but not the same as his perm days

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18 Oct 2010 20:22:57
RE any othet takers? how about steptoe and son? they are use to sifting through crap and may be they could sort out those liverpool losers? hope that helps

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18 Oct 2010 20:18:31
Ed, Macca, anyone, do you think RH will go? {ed's note - I think he will be on his way within the month that NESV have to release him.}

What you saying new owner can get rid of roy within the first month of the takeover? ?? ? find that very hard to belive, where you heard that {ed's note - it was confirmed as being within his contract that he receives a reduced sum if removed within the first month of new owners taking charge. Like I have said all along, he was always installed as a stop gap and that is why Kenny was never even considered.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:17:22
Ed's note - Everton are an average side, they are not top 5 material, the team they had out yesterday we should be looking to beat
they had pienaar, rodwell, fellani and saha missing. .
when you say we should beat them we have no devine right playing like the way we have.Putting the ball in the onion bag more times than the other team, counts for everything.If average is mid table then everton are better than average. {ed's note - that was why I said the team they had out yesterday. Pienaar is their best player, Rodwell is a top class youngster and Saha is their only decent striker. Without those 3 they are much weaker, weak enough that the team Liverpool had out should be good enough to beat them. Especially considering the high they should have been on following the takeover. By the way in case you have missed the table, Everton are mid-table, which is average.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:17:02
Ed do you think it would be worth a punt on pires he has no club and training with arsenal? {ed's note - I think he has to be worth giving a trial to at the very least.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:15:35
Ok fantasy football time
january transfer window N.E.S.V give us £25 million
top that up by selling
sortis kyriagos. . . .£1 million
emiliano insua. . . . £4 million
maxi rodriguez. . . . £3 million
nabil el zhar. . . . . £500,000
damien plessis. . . .£500,000
lucas leiva. . . . . . .£8 million
total to spend. . . £42 million (6 players out)
players to bring in

brend hangeland. . . £8 million
scott parker. . . . . . £7 million
arda turan. . . . . . . £12 million
fernando llorente. . .£15 million
total spent. . . . .£42 million. (4 players in)

summer window N.E.S.V. give us £100 million
top that up by selling
brad jones. . . . . . . £2 million
charles itandje. . . . .free
philip degan. . . . . . .free
martin skrtel. . . . . .£7 million
fabio aurellio. . . . . . free
dirk kuyt. . . . . . . . £9 million
alberta aqualani. . . .£13 million
christian poulson. . . £3 million
milan jovanavic. . . . £2 million
ryan babel. . . . . . . .£7 million
david ngog. . . . . . . £6 million
total to spend. . . . £149 million. (11 players out)

players to buy
kieran westwood. . . . £3 million
philip lahm. . . . . . . . .£16 million
gary cahill. . . . . . . . .£12 million
xabi alonso. . . . . . . . £25 million
juan mata. . . . . . . . . £17 million
luis suarez. . . . . . . . .£25 million
connor wickham. . . . . £6 million
adam johnson. . . . . . .£15 million
gareth bale. . . . . . . . £20 million
taime taiwo. . . . . . . . free(think out of contract)
steven defour. . . . . . .£10 million

new squad
REINA. . . . .LAHM. . . . .A.JOHNSON. .TORRES
WESTWOOD.JOHNSON. . TURAN. . . . .SUAREZ
GULACSI. . . DARBY. . . . AMOO. . . . . LLORIENTE
BOUZANIS. . TAIWO. . . . STERLING. . WICKHAM
HANSEN. . . .MAVINGA. . MATA. . . . . .PACHECO
. . . . . . . . . ROBINSON. .COLE. . . . . .FERNANDEZ
. . . . . . . . .KONCHESKY. INCE
. . . . . . . . .CARRAGHER. .BRUNA
. . . . . . . . .AGGER. . . . .BALE
. . . . . . . . .CAHILL. . . . .PARKER
. . . . . . . . .HANGELAND. .SPEARING
. . . . . . . . .KELLY. . . . . .ALONSO
. . . . . . . . .AYALA. . . . . DE FOUR
. . . . . . . . .WILSON. . . . .GERRARD
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .SHELVEY
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .MEIRELES {ed's note - Wickham for £6m? If we could get him for that we would be working miracles mate. I would love to see this lad play for Liverpool, he is a fan and a great target man for the future. But Ipswich would probably ask too much for him, that is why I have never suggested him as a potential purchase.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:15:19
Has hodgson lost all faith in the youth setup?

He has been burnt letting youth play in the league cup. So is he now against the idea all together. Who would want to be a manager, every decision meets with boo's.

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18 Oct 2010 20:14:11
Ed just seen dalglish at blackburn and sunderland game don't you think its a bit strange he is scouting on blackburn our next apps and hodgsons not.does this mean he will be in charge for sunday? ? {ed's note - I don't know if that is the reason or not, but I do believe Hodgson is on borrowed time and it is only a matter of time before he is removed, and not much time either.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:12:18
Lacina Traor looks like a Roy Hodgson signing. Looks like Zomra. Hes a bigstriker who is playing CFR Cluj.

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18 Oct 2010 20:11:55
This may sound foolish but is there any chance that NESV are already working on replacement for Roy already. The worst thing that could happen to us now is for us to spend 2-3 weeks managerless and clueless. Perhaps they are working on Laudrup, Pellegrini or even O'Neill so that we can have a speedy transition without the weeks in limbo. It would also give Hodgson a final few matches to save his career and dignity before he goes out limping.

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18 Oct 2010 20:10:12
Ed in response to the m'on question . Who would be your preference if Roy gets the boot ( a manager that we have a serious chance of getting )
NGS77 {ed's note - if he can speak English it would be between Pellegrini and Laudrup for me (my personal preference is Sean O'Driscoll but apparently we have to have a big name these days instead of going for a damn good manager), failing that I would go for Roberto Di Matteo.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:09:22
18 Oct 2010 19:44:39
LFC

Is anyone watching sky sports 1? monday night football live , because andy gray is on there and has just highlighted fernando torres performance from yesterday where he could of made runs or gave the midfielders options but he didn't at all , he looked slow , lazy and was so slow to react to anything , i dunno what everyones opinion is about him at the moment? is it lack of confidence in the team? or he doesn't want to be here anymore? or is he just so disapointed with the direction we have been going in of late?

But theres no excuses, if your a striker struggling for goals you go out there and give it your all to try and get goals , u work extra hard , espcially when you play up top on your own. i know he hasnt been recieving amazing service from the midfield but still he should be busting a gut for liverpool.

Where has all his link up play with gerrard gone? when they played together they use to cause so much problems for defenders.
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Other teams are getting a player to sit on Gerard in Midfield, this isolates Torres two on one with no balls being crossed to him. It's easy fo Any Gray etc to lay into Torres but lets face it, in other teams if a striker in in poor form it's obvious cos he's missing chances, Torres isn't missing chances cos none are created for him. what we're missing is him scoring wonder goals from nothing.

Also, twice in a row yesterday Cole on the left looked up and saw Maxi next to a defender in the box with space in front of them by the penalty spot, he put the ball into that space to attack twice and Maxi didn't move. I know managers are experienced etc. but surely the young players have to be given a chance to provide width and energy if the senior players won't. Nothing like have a realistic chance of losing your place to get you playing, not knowing you'll be back in in a few weeks regardless. {ed's note - the point Andy Gray was making is that Torres had acres of space behind the defence to run into but he was stood still and pointing to the keeper telling Carra to pass the ball back.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:07:25
Ed, I'd like your opinion on a few things.
Will Torres leave in January/ Summer?
If he does, who should we get to replace him?
If Torres goes, do you think any players will follow him out?
Will Hodgson go/ who will replace him?
If you could buy one player to improve our squad, who would it be? {ed's note - it is impossible for anyone to say who will stay or leave as no one knows who will be in charge then. There are some problems within the squad that need ironing out, whether they are as bad as being made out or just the fallings out that come with poor form I am not entirely sure. But the manager needs to nip it in the bud now and get the players working together on the pitch no matter what they think of each other off the pitch. I love Jamie Carragher, but him and Gerrard have far too much power at the club and that needs to be curtailed immediately. It is not good for team spirit to have two players to have so much say in team affairs, especially not ones that are performing so poorly on the pitch. I believe Hodgson will be removed and soon, I am not sure who will be the replacement as the search proper has yet to start, but I believe he will be replaced the moment the new guy is decided on. If there was one player I would sign, right now it would be Higuain, Llorente or Honda.}

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18 Oct 2010 20:07:00
RE: Roy Hodgson.> HEY! We signed this guy on the count of his European run last year.

You should read up on his record. He has done more than just getting to the final of europa league comp. He has lead countries. So i figure he must of built up a few cotacts and have a couple of aces up his shelve. Give Hodgson a chance in the transfer market and on the pitch.

He has now tested the team, figured out who he can trust and who needs to leave for what-ever-reason. Sometimes people don't click together. He will look to get some good players in within the next two years and remove some big egos likes of gerrard and torres who are killing the club.

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18 Oct 2010 20:05:07
{ed's note - I really, really, really don't want O'Neill. He doesn't give youth players a real chance, his teams play terrible, unattractive football and I don't like him at all. I have respect for him for leaving the game to take care of his wife and I am sure as a person away from football he is a nice guy. But, as a manager, he is an arrogant, over-excitable, clueless man who spends his entire time asking for more money to buy players which he then doesn't play.}


I know Ed, but what do you *really* think? {ed's note - sorry mate *gets off fence* I like him ;o)}

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18 Oct 2010 20:02:23
I don't know why we don't sign Pires on a 1 year deal. He's a free agent so we could sign him now as we didn't submit a 25 man squad. What do you think ed?

Gav the red {ed's note - he would provide a bit of creativity and we sadly lack that, but surely that is why we signed Cole? So, if you are suggesting Pires, does that mean you would want to be rid of Cole already?}

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18 Oct 2010 19:58:01
"Dalglish? 2 words:
David
Speedie

Hang on. . from what i recall Speedy did ok. Didnt he score against everton & Liverpool?

Sorry. . I meant Everton & Man Ure

ROBKOP

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18 Oct 2010 19:56:52
HEY!
We signed this guy on the count of his European run last year.
He diddnt win, yet you fans still said he is good enough for Liverpool.
Fulhams league position was 12th last year, but they did get to a European Final.

Liverpool are still in a European tournament ( who knows, may even get to the final).
Liverpool are near the bottom of the league ( who knows, still may finish 12th). So why the complaining?

Benitez- you can't use the excuse of it's Benitezs team or squad or players blah blah blah. Under Benitez Liverpool were organised, threat, thorn to big clubs and Everton and we had Mascherano. Under Hodgson, we look unorganised, no confidence, no team spirit, no interest and also Hodgson's buys have been poor.

Future. Admit you was wrong, the board admit they was wrong and replace the manager before it's to late.
I'm pretty sure Torres won't be here next season especially with Hodgson in charge and no Champions league.

Foriegn managers need years to adapt unless they have inherited a Chelsea team or Man City cash.
O'neil isn't much better than Hodgson.
Bring back Dalglish and create a traditional Bootroom for future managers and/ or coaches.

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18 Oct 2010 19:54:36
Ed what do you think of Martin o'neill as the next manager if Roy gets the boot , we need a motivator who doesn't over complicate things and plays high tempo football even if it is long ball sometimes , with his great relationship with Ashley young he could prise him away from villa .With a few intelligent signings he could really turn things around . Your thoughts please .
NGS77 {ed's note - I really, really, really don't want O'Neill. He doesn't give youth players a real chance, his teams play terrible, unattractive football and I don't like him at all. I have respect for him for leaving the game to take care of his wife and I am sure as a person away from football he is a nice guy. But, as a manager, he is an arrogant, over-excitable, clueless man who spends his entire time asking for more money to buy players which he then doesn't play.}

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18 Oct 2010 19:53:41
Hi ed i was just wondering if anyone would consider taking pennant back. .he has good delivery and if we got a target man like lorente than he could be a bargain buy! {ed's note - he has a bit of an attitude problem, I would be wary about taking him back without having the right manager in charge.}

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18 Oct 2010 19:52:37
18 Oct 2010 19:36:12
"Dalglish? 2 words:
David
Speedie

Hang on. . from what i recall Speedy did ok. Didnt he score against everton & Liverpool??

A good manager does take advice from backroom. My choice would be (unless hiddink or special one can be tempted) Dalglish assisted by Thommo. Could Paco be tempted to join coaching staff? Hansen would make a good addition to backroom but i can't see him leaving the beeb. Carra has an excellent knowledge of modern football so i think he should be fast-tracked into coaching/ advisory roll to help kenny.
Roy has got to go NOW. . He was on a hiding to nothing from the start as the fans were divided on Rafa. I believe Rafa had earned the right to have one more season to put things right following finishing second the season before last and leading us to TWO CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINALS. . . If he was so bad why did Inter want him (along with Real, Juventus & Bayern? ?)

ROBKOP

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18 Oct 2010 19:50:14
This is theturdz speaking
from now on i am getting the team selection 24hours before it is announced i will put it on this site as i get it this is from a very good source ie a player is passing me the info guaranteed also woy has 3 games left no improvement he is out
from theturdz the man with all the real info and no bulls* t

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18 Oct 2010 19:45:57
This may be a fair point, but a good manager listens to people around him and makes a decision on that. The key is listening to the right people. However, it is the manager that eventually (unless you're at Chelsea) makes the decision and it is he who is judged on that. Therefore, Kenny got more right than he got wrong, and considerably more right than Souie, and Houillier. Even if Speedie and Carter turned out to be duds!

Kenny took a team full of goals and asked it to defend against an inferior Arsenal side, resulting in Arsenal winning 2-0 and taking the title in what should have been our 2nd Double year. Bad decision.

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18 Oct 2010 19:44:39
LFC

Is anyone watching sky sports 1? monday night football live , because andy gray is on there and has just highlighted fernando torres performance from yesterday where he could of made runs or gave the midfielders options but he didn't at all , he looked slow , lazy and was so slow to react to anything , i dunno what everyones opinion is about him at the moment? is it lack of confidence in the team? or he doesn't want to be here anymore? or is he just so disapointed with the direction we have been going in of late?

But theres no excuses, if your a striker struggling for goals you go out there and give it your all to try and get goals , u work extra hard , espcially when you play up top on your own. i know he hasnt been recieving amazing service from the midfield but still he should be busting a gut for liverpool.

Where has all his link up play with gerrard gone? when they played together they use to cause so much problems for defenders.

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18 Oct 2010 19:41:41
From day one hodgson has never really looked the part, even friends of mine who arent liverpool fans say he jus doesn't look right in our dugout, don't get me wrong what he did with fulham last season was fantastic, but to be given the liverpool job on the back of one good season jus reminds me of the dire straights we were in, surely he wasnt the 1st choice, an if not wots happened to us? we are liverpool fc, top class managers should be climbin over each other to manage us with the best fans in the world behind them

when hodgson took the job i was very disappointed with the decsion, then he covinced torres an gerrard to stay, convinced joe cole to break the north south divide an bought mierles out of no-where, this lifted me an i thought, ok , maybe i was wrong, but the performances on the pitch with the execption ov arsenal on day 1 an the 2nd half at old trafford have bin absolutely shockin devoid of passion, pace, creativity an leadership from the bench

i think roy hodgson is a genuinely nice guy, but he isn't the right man for liverpool, thanks roy but its time u went mate, we need a charasmatic manager who who plays the liverpool way

ed your thoughts on a new man i kno u said sean o'driscoll but surely he hasnt the expierence to manage liverpool {ed's note - nor did Shanks, Paisley, Fagan or Dalglish. Souness, Rafa and Ged all had the experience but failed to bring the title back. Roberto Di Matteo has very little experience but he is doing alright isn't he? Hodgson has a ton of experience but he doesn't seem able to get the best out of our players, I would much rather have a young hungry manager who can stay in charge for years to come.}

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18 Oct 2010 19:40:39
To the person who mentioned frank rijkaard, that wud be a gud shout, he plays a really gud attacking brand of football, also he wud no turan better than anyone. what do you think ed? {ed's note - I keep getting asked this, I like his brand of football but not his man-management. He is not someone I would have as one of my choices.}

Rijkaard seems to polarise people, he did it as a player in Holland, and as a manager. Not who we need now tbh.

Klinnsman, blonde airhead, I think the WC showed us whjo was the brains behind the German outfit, step forward Mr. Loew, you could be a very, very good fit for our club. The media absolutely love you, you would be like Jose Mouthpiece without the soon-to-be-Manure managers Tourettes.

O'Neill. Despite what the ED thinks, I happen to think we need his energy. in fact energy is something in short supply around anfield these days tbh.

Rafa, Love him or hate him, why would he bother?


Jol. Spurs baggage. Forever will be known as the man that 50 million people knew was sacked before he knew himself.

Ramos. Interesting, this poor man's Benitez had a good record before the London Losers sucked the soul out of him.

Del Bosque. Described by many as a "Dirty Santa Clause" (well, by me anyway) He has what it takes to manage the very top players, but age woud appear to be against him (that and the fact that Christmas fixtures would be a problem)

Hiddink. The solution to all our problems. Sadly, he appears to be out of reach.

Keegan. Right fit, has the history and who didn't enjoy Newcastle beating the scum 5-0? young and full of ambition still, he may see Liverpool as a way to exorcise the Newcastle demons, but his media baggage would need a whole lorry to themselves. Still idolised by older fans though. (including me. .FA cup final 1974, get in!)

Pellegrini. Know bugger all about him. May or may not speak English depending on whether I can be bothered to check the youtube link.

Hodgson. It strikes me that some managers are good at managing limited talent, but seem to fall short when it comes to the cream. As Holloway seems to thrive on producing teams that punch above their weight, Mouthpiece would struggle at Bristol City. I believe that this is Hodgsons downfall. I see him watch the game, obviously trying to figure out why his players are not doing what they have been told.
What Roy doesn't realise is that some of the players on the pitch believe they know better than him how they should play. Future very limited at the club, I am sorry to say, and England outlook appears to be dim. Will end up at Palace or QPR yoyo-ing for a time.


Any other takers?

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18 Oct 2010 19:38:23
Quick question ed - surely the chance to be the man who revives a fallen european giant and one of the most historic and successful clubs in English football has to tempt managers to the hopefully soon vacant anfield hot seat? {ed's note - it is a huge draw, still one of the biggest in football and many managers would be interested.}

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18 Oct 2010 19:36:12
"Dalglish? 2 words:
David
Speedie
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Don't forget 2 more words - JIMMY CARTER! !"

Or ten more. .
John Aldridge
John Barnes
Peter Beardsley
Steve McMahon
Ray Houghton

Every manager has bought duds here and there. But I think Kenny got more right than he got wrong!

Dirks Engine Room {ed's note - there is a few differences between the 5 you mentioned and the other 2. The 5 were Bob Paisley recommendations, the other 2 weren't.}

This may be a fair point, but a good manager listens to people around him and makes a decision on that. The key is listening to the right people. However, it is the manager that eventually (unless you're at Chelsea) makes the decision and it is he who is judged on that. Therefore, Kenny got more right than he got wrong, and considerably more right than Souie, and Houillier. Even if Speedie and Carter turned out to be duds!

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18 Oct 2010 19:33:39
Apart from our poor displays. Does anybody have any further evidence of the bad blood between certain players in the squad? Did anybody notice the extremely audible rebuke Carragher made towards Torres yesterday in the first half?

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18 Oct 2010 19:32:51
Torres lacking supply of the ball

You know when carra is playing bad. He starts shouting and blaming other people who are making him look good because those players are playing bad. {ed's note - perhaps if Torres gave him more movement and an option to pass to he wouldn't get shouted at so much. Andy Gray has just highlighted how every time Carra had the ball Torres was pointing backwards telling him to pass the ball to Reina while standing still.}

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18 Oct 2010 19:25:09
Ed i hate the blue tossers but to say they are an average side, i honestly think theyre a bit better than that. Roys words that it was one of the best performances so far, well hes either got glucoma or he was trying to make it easy, cos if the new owners thought that was great , then trust me theyre in for a treat next week when we draw. that's another worrying thing when players say, come an get me. .that usually means im running out of options , im shat, and you might be just gullible enough to give me 100,000 a week. {ed's note - Everton are an average side, they are not top 5 material, the team they had out yesterday we should be looking to beat easily. They set out to kick us off the park and succeeded easily because we had no fight in our team. But even after bullying us completely they still played no real decent, passing, attacking or flowing football. That to me says an average side, no danger of relegation but no danger of them challenging for the Champions League either. By the way, I don't hate Everton, my fondest memories in football are the 80s when they were the main challengers for the league.}

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18 Oct 2010 19:25:04
I didn't support Roy getting the Manager role but i thought he could atleast do the job! now we a playing with pathetic tactics and when we go one nil down he has no clue what to do.

But the worst thing is he thnks we should be aiming to draw games with is a disgrace and suggesting it would insult the club removing him after such little time is an insult to the fans and the club. The reason we haven't sacked a manager so early before is because they perform and atleast win games against lesser teams.

Either Roy or the Board need to just say they have made a mistake and royy is not an LFC manager

sorry Roy but please just leave now it hurts watching us play! !

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18 Oct 2010 19:23:17
New owners new start. Get rid of Roy. Not doing it for me I'm afraid. To say that he was happy with yesterdays performance means he has lost the plot. I would try and get Michael laudrup. Good young manager and would instantly get the respect of the players due to his world standing as a player. Get him in now to evaluate the squad before the next transfer window. Gazza

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18 Oct 2010 19:22:46
I don't know what happens at Melwood, but i hope someone can answer this. Besides the 2008/ 2009 season, don't you think Sammy Lee must have some influence in what has been going on with our defensive tactics? Why didn't Roy bring his own number 2?. Personally i would like to see Pellegrini come in sooner rather than later, why give Roy the Jan transfer Fund? If a new manager comes in now, they will have time to see who they like in the team and who they don't. They can spend some money in Jan and have half a season to inbed their tactics and way of football into the players before next season. Opposed to attempting to do this next summer.
South African YNWA

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18 Oct 2010 19:21:40
I believe that Manuel Pellegrini does has passable English (may need some work though). I seem to remember Guillem Balague saying so on Revista da La Liga last season.
Another interesting choice as new manager would be the attack minded Atletico Madrid coach Quique Snchez Flores. Good attacking football and one for the ladies I believe.

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18 Oct 2010 19:13:08
Llorente ed good choice. Any if we gota 2 world class wingers wit good delivery he would Bang in the goals.
Fowler is god {ed's note - he would also allow Torres to roam around and still leave us with a presence in the box rather than Stevie on the halfway line pouting.}

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18 Oct 2010 19:11:14
LFC

Ed do you know what happened or what has been said at this meeting today between nesv ( john henry and Tom werner ) and the liverpool supporters? was it about the stadium or manager or anything like that?

Also i agree we need some target man up top with torres someone who can put himself about and bully defenders , such as llorente , Dzeko or mario gomez. How much is llorente likely to cost though if he is available in jan? We could also try that loan move for gomez again as he was willing to come , i think it was just a wage issue.

I Just hope come january , roy hodgson ( or whoever is in charge at the time) makes the right decisions on players to get into the club , i think we all know what sort of players we want and need. {ed's note - I am waiting to find out, I am very surprised that SOS etc haven't made a statement about the meeting.}

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18 Oct 2010 19:04:16
Ibrahim Afellay says he'll move to Premier League on a free in the summer

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18 Oct 2010 19:04:07
Who would give raffa another go. Let him have a go when he could concentrate on football . I do belive in the last 18 months he was more concerned with what the yanks was doing to our club! ! He made mistakes yes but at least we always felt we could win

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18 Oct 2010 19:02:20
Ed how much longer do you think we should stick with Roy.i don't think the defend-counter strategy is going away, if he wanted to he would have changed it 5 games ago. {ed's note - I have to say, yesterday I wasn't keen on a knee jerk reaction, I thought he should be given more time. But his after match comments about how a point would have been a good result have annoyed me intensely. I understand he has to play down just how bad a result it was for the team for his own sake, but to say that is disgraceful. Everton are, at best, an average side, they are a team that we should be looking to beat, whether home or away, not get a draw with. I guess that is the difference between a man who isn't from the city of Liverpool and me who has to put up with endless texts from family and friends who are Toffees gloating about the result. Nothing but a win should be seen as a good result, and if the manager doesn't feel that way then he is not the man for the Liverpool job.}

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18 Oct 2010 19:02:10
I'd give Woy 2 more games to improve performances and get at least 4 points or he must go.

I feared this would happen, look at his PL away record with Fulham, last time any of his teams won an away PL fixture was something like August 09!

Pelligrini is the only suitable option (if he speaks English) as I don't rate Rijkaard or Klinsman.

NESV want proven winners and they'll find Footall a lot harder to master than Rounders.

However, we should still get behind the team at the next match and you never know it might start clicking and something wonderful might happen! !

Goalsharker

P.S Why is caughtoffside quoted on the BBC Sport Football gossip column as a source, might as well use Kr*p Talk! !

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18 Oct 2010 18:54:48
Red for life! {ed's note - I think you are right about Hodgson going sooner rather than later. They won't leave it because of extra money it would cost to remove him if it is not done within a month.}


henry changed manager 3 times in 2 years when he first took control of red socks so will not wait around

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18 Oct 2010 18:50:53
{Editor's Note: It was the style of football Benitez wanted that led to the "way" being lost.}


Sorry mate, I cannot let this go into koin. Benitez managed a team to 2 CL finals, and his team was a contender every year until his last. Alowing this sort of comment to drift is what is wrong with the club and it's supporters.

On another note, I see wish lists on here that would change almost all the outfield players! that's more suited to Championship Manager than real life, so some of you guys need to get a grip.
Also, can I take issue with the ED who described MON as an arrogant half-wit? He obviously does not know anything about Martin. I have met him, and he is the most decent, warm, generous, enthusiastic and intelligent person you could wish to meet. I see down the page he is 7/ 4 with the bookmakers to take over. Good, because we bloody well need him. He is exactly what the club needs now, someone who will have the mental strength, the belief and the intestinal fortitude to be able to get rid of the personnel who are strangling the club.

People forget what MON did at Celtic, they forget how he energised the club for years. He can do the same for us, the whole squad needs a kick in the ass, and if they don't like it, then they can fk off to Spurs or Newcastle, because that's usually where our rejects go. {ed's note - I have met him too, and he may well be a nice guy to you, but I found him to be an arrogant half-wit with no idea about football. If we end up with him managing we will win nothing, he is not a good manager and can only keep 11 players happy at a club. Good managers get the whole squad happy and feeling part of the team, even when they are not playing.}

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18 Oct 2010 18:50:42
Keep hoping that the little yellow line across SSN says that Roy Hodgson leaves post with immediate effect.

The board need to act now before its too late. quite clearly something is wrong with the coaching. last year we had Rafa, Sammy and Pellegrini. Who do we have this year

The players are lacking bite. They look lethargic a bit like our manager on the bench. See Strachan has done the right thing and gone please RH do the same.

My friend has been suffering from insomnia. I have invited him around on Thursday to watch the reds. Me thinks he will a good few hours sleep.

Ed, Macca, anyone, do you think RH will go? {ed's note - I think he will be on his way within the month that NESV have to release him.}

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18 Oct 2010 18:47:01
To the person who mentioned frank rijkaard, that wud be a gud shout, he plays a really gud attacking brand of football, also he wud no turan better than anyone. what do you think ed? {ed's note - I keep getting asked this, I like his brand of football but not his man-management. He is not someone I would have as one of my choices.}

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18 Oct 2010 18:45:09
Well ed 1st time on today I really like female reds line up looks solid. Maybe switch agger with wilson for young pace at centre half wit carra.
Another point why would we want that scumbag Rooney in our team he's a picky. We may swell get Carroll of Newcastle and Terry if we're gonna do that. Also agree with earlier poster today re shearer type striker for us up top but there ain't many of them round anymore.Maybe some1 like gilardino(although personally don't like him) but a poacher like him! Any thoughts ed or anyone.
Fowler is god {ed's note - Llorente looks the most obvious option to play up front, he is almost certain to move in January.}

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18 Oct 2010 18:39:09
18 Oct 2010 18:26:06
18 Oct 2010 18:17:08

18 Oct 2010 17:51:27

Please add to my comment

players i'd like to see at LFC

Wright Phillips
A.Young
J A Riise (never should have sold him)
G Bale
Benzema
Alonso (never should have sold him)
FemaleRed4life {ed's note - why Wright-Phillips? He can't pass, tackle, cross or shoot.}

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I agree ed. I have just never understood this infatuation with Wright Phillips. He is nothing more than an ok premier league player. We had Pennant who was better. Babel is better and that is saying something.
On the subject of Riise. He was a victim of the boo boys after an indifferent season. But he understood what it was to be a footballer for Liverpool. He was better than both Dossena and Aurelio. He was also a useful left sided midfielder. He would also come back to Liverpool if he had the chance.
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GENERALLY SPEAKING THE BEST LIVERPOOL SIDES NEVER HAD A 'SPEEDY' RIGHT SIDED MIDFIELD PLAYER/ WINGER - TERRY MCDERMOTT, JIMMY CASE, SAMMY LEE, CRAIG JOHNSTONE, RAY HOUGHTON.
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The above are all very good Liverpool players. Good passers of the ball and worked hard for the team. So if we don't require a speedy winger and if Rooney is going to leave Utd for ManCity, maybe we could sign Beckham on a 3 month loan from LA Galaxy in January. He might also relieve Gerrard from having to play the Alonso role.

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18 Oct 2010 18:39:09
All talk of kaka is just wishfull thinking, he has many on going injury problems. and his wages wud be massive, if kaka was offerd 150k then gerrard wud have to be offerd the same or even more then torres wud want more money. . . so no it won't happen. liverpool will have to look at young, bright up and coming players. at the current moment in time we cud not attract the top end of the market. but in time im sure we will.

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18 Oct 2010 18:38:44
Hi ed, is there going to be a press conference introducing the new owners again?
west midland scouse {ed's note - not that I have heard of, I hope they aren't going to do that, I would rather the owners stayed in the background.}

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18 Oct 2010 18:37:09
TIME TO FORGET ABOUT WHERE WE LIE IN THE LEAGUE TABLE @ START BYE BEING THE TWELTH MAN @ GET BEHIND THE GUYS , LETS MAKE ANFIELD THE PLACE IT ONCE WAS THAT STRUCK FEAR INTO THE OPPISITION.WE NEED TO FORGET THE NEGATIVE VIBE 'GUYS LIKE NANDO NEED US NOW AS MUCH AS WE NEED THEM.THE PLAYING STAFF WILL CHANGE ALOT IN THE NEXT 2 WINDOWS WHO GOES & COMES IN WILL MAKE THE SQUAD STRONGER AS MORE FUNDS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO BUY HIGHER QUALITY PLAYERS THAT ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED.SO LETS JUST GET BEHIND THE TEAM ITS NOT OR JOB TO RUN THE CLUB 'BUT WE WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT THEM. LFC FOREVER

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18 Oct 2010 18:35:46
The reason i'd like Wright-Phillips is because he's better than Babel, and is very quick, i just don't think he gets a good opportunity at City. if you look at some of the defences he is up against they back off him and play very defensive down their left hand side which would allow us to push higher up, he can cut inside and he's got a decent right foot on him as well as being good at one touch football. Aaron Lennon isn't the best at crossing but he gives defenders a scare with his pace.

FemaleRed4Life {ed's note - he doesn't get a chance at City because he is quite simply not good enough to get near their team, just like he wasn't good enough to get in the team at Chelsea. He is also extremely greedy and expects ludicrously high wages, I mean in the Stevie G bracket kind of money. By the way, by good at one touch football, do you mean he has one touch then gives it away? Only I have never seen him scare a defender, they just back away because they know he will give it away if you just let him try something, there is no need to close him down because he is no threat.}

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18 Oct 2010 18:33:36
{Editor's Note: No idea I am afraid.}


same ere im afraid too
Anyway like i said before can't see Rooney learning another language, hes as thick as a gurkhas foreskin. .

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18 Oct 2010 18:26:58
Ed how old is Suso? {ed's note - he is either 16 or 17, I think 16 but I am not sure when his birthday is so he might well have turned 17 in the last few days.}

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18 Oct 2010 18:26:06
18 Oct 2010 18:17:08

18 Oct 2010 17:51:27

Please add to my comment

players i'd like to see at LFC

Wright Phillips
A.Young
J A Riise (never should have sold him)
G Bale
Benzema
Alonso (never should have sold him)
FemaleRed4life {ed's note - why Wright-Phillips? He can't pass, tackle, cross or shoot.}

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I agree ed. I have just never understood this infatuation with Wright Phillips. He is nothing more than an ok premier league player. We had Pennant who was better. Babel is better and that is saying something.
On the subject of Riise. He was a victim of the boo boys after an indifferent season. But he understood what it was to be a footballer for Liverpool. He was better than both Dossena and Aurelio. He was also a useful left sided midfielder. He would also come back to Liverpool if he had the chance.
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GENERALLY SPEAKING THE BEST LIVERPOOL SIDES NEVER HAD A 'SPEEDY' RIGHT SIDED MIDFIELD PLAYER/ WINGER - TERRY MCDERMOTT, JIMMY CASE, SAMMY LEE, CRAIG JOHNSTONE, RAY HOUGHTON.

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18 Oct 2010 18:24:44
I personally hope that kenny does not take over if roy is sacked, 4 whatever reason things are not working at the moment and if kenny was 2 take over, would fans be calling for kenny's head if after 8 games if kenny had also only picked up 6 points. i think if roy does go then nesv shud look to add a permanant manager in position and then give him the funds in jan. what do you think ed? {ed's note - I don't see the point in appointing Kenny in a caretaker position, he deserves better than that.}

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18 Oct 2010 18:23:46
If torres does leave us who do you think wud be his replacement?
ive heard a lot ov names bein banded about, but the most interestin one seems to be suarez
1. wud he come ?
2. wud he be up to the pace an physicallity ov the prem ?

your views ed {ed's note - I would prefer someone like Llorente myself, Suarez would probably cost more than him and is not as strong.}

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18 Oct 2010 18:22:31
I just hope Liverpool have not approached Gordon Strachan.

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18 Oct 2010 18:21:31
Although it has been a terrible start, I'd rather wait until Roy has had a decent transfer budget in January. It was always going to be a transition period, and I think a couple of stars would make us challenger again. Maybe not top 4 this season, but next season with about £40 million to spend, I think Roy can turn us around

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18 Oct 2010 18:08:10
Ed do you think A Young wud be interested in a move to liverpool if so i think we should pull out all the stops to sign him, i think hes jus the type of player we need

gaz {ed's note - I think he would prefer a move back down south out of choice and personally I would not want him. He goes missing when he gets a kick, he would have been just another one that hid yesterday when we needed a bit of fight.}

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18 Oct 2010 18:02:22
Roy will be sacked after next sunday if the 2matches don't yield two wins. . The clause in his contract allows the new owners to terminate it WITHIN A MONTH for a 3million.
The owners are getting to understand the various situations possible as far as the league table is concerned. And will act quickly before it is too late. . They do not want nose cuts like the one they recieved after yesterday's show.
Torres will stay on till next season.
Hence the new owners will provide cash for one marquee signing . And may be a couple of others.

Its going to be a surprise , we can't say at this stage. The above areFacts. My view is that-
if kaka' is for sale, don't rule out a possibility of him joining us-biggest attraction being playing with STEVEN GERRARD. Unless our position is really bad in january.
Good days ahead but we ve got to get back to mid table immediately- by november mid and climb up to top 6 or 5. And sacking roy is the only way forward.
Ed your views are welcome. :-)
Breathtaking PHOENIX

Red for life! {ed's note - I think you are right about Hodgson going sooner rather than later. They won't leave it because of extra money it would cost to remove him if it is not done within a month.}

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18 Oct 2010 18:00:10
Since taking over and Mr Henry proclaiming that NESV will be listening to the fans, he should spend some time on this site and see what some of us fans are saying on here. I believe that no one has as much passion and love for the club than the fans as well as some players and know what is needed. Some fans commit their lives to it and analyse everything. Anyway, if the rumour about NESV contacting Steve mclaren is true, lord help us. Kenny Dalglish is more than qualified to take us to the top. He has respect from the fans, players and knows what he's doing. I'm confident he can take us to the top once again. Personally i'd like either him or Guus hiddink as the next manager and no one else. If Roy "Dodgson" does not get us into the top 10 by christmas, i tip that he will get the sack.

The Roachmiester

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18 Oct 2010 17:56:57
What are the real chances of us signing honda ed {ed's note - it is hard to say, it really depends on who else is interested in him. He is keen on a move to England and Liverpool are one of the teams that interests him (according to his agent anyway). It just depends on who else goes in for him, but I certainly expect him to be on the move in January, he is not happy in Russia in the slightest.}

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18 Oct 2010 17:51:27
Please add to my comment

players i'd like to see at LFC

Wright Phillips
A.Young
J A Riise (never should have sold him)
G Bale
Benzema
Alonso (never should have sold him)
FemaleRed4life {ed's note - why Wright-Phillips? He can't pass, tackle, cross or shoot.}

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18 Oct 2010 17:45:38
Players out:

Greek (poor player)
Konchesky (out of his depth)
LUCAS- (never rated him, passing is shocking, can't defend, fouls everytime he goes for the ball etc. he must be a wizard in training but obv not on the pitch)
Maxi- shocking winger/ midfielder, occasionally gets a decent cross in but other than that he's conference material
Ngog- regardless of how many goals he has scored he isn't good enough. he can't be classed as a young player anymore, rooney was 16/ 17 when he was banging in goals that's what we need from a 'young player'
Poulsen- not good enough, simple
Kuyt- works very hard and is played out of natural position but only good as a squad player.

players we need to keep-
Stevie,
Carra,
Nando,
Reina (saved our arses last season and is our best player by a country mile)
Johnson (needs to be played higher up as a right mid
Agger (strong CB, shouldnt be played at LB)
Skrtel (scary CB, just look at him lol)
Babel (use a sub if need be, has pace and does cause problems when bought on)
Cole (needs to played in the middle behind Nando)
keep most of the youth team, we've got a couple os very good players i.e. Ince, Shelvey etc.

Team against Balckburn:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Reina
Kelly- - - - -Carragher- - - -Agger- - - -Aurelio
- - - - - - - - - - - - - Meireles
Johnson- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Babel
- - - - - - - -Gerrard- - - - - - - Cole
Torres

FemaleRed4Life

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18 Oct 2010 17:45:35
Buy rooney, are you serious the lad is completely anti-liverpool. plays for everton (he could be forgiven for that). then sells his soul for the money at manu're. and worst of all makes a point of selling any of his stories to the s*n. he besides like ed said we need a striker to stay in the box, a real poacher i.e bent, davies, aguero. tbh i know aguero is class but i would just as soon prefer bent. he is proven.
ed did i miss anything out

always a red {ed's note - seemed to cover it nicely mate.}

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18 Oct 2010 17:32:16
I feel there is no use in posting wishlists and potential signings until closer to the January transfer window. I don't think John W. Henry would give Roy a vote of confidence and then sack him the next game. What I really want to see from Roy is a more attacking outlook from the off, not with 5 minutes of a match remaining. A holding midfielder should only be used if we feel we won't get much as much possession(e.g. versus Arsenal) Against all other sides a straight 4-4-2 should be used. As Liverpool we should be dominating possession and be on the front foot, not playing on the counter attack. My 4-4-2 would be Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Aurelio, Kuyt, Meireles, Gerrard, Cole, Torres, Jovanovic. Gerrard and Meireles are full internationals who have captained their country - they're smart enough not to empty the central midfield - and should not need a back up in case they did. Jovanovic was successful in Belgium as a striker - and its clear that he likes to come inside far to much to be a winger. The 2nd striker spot could easily be filled by N'Gog or Pacheco. Whats more our bench should be filled with hungry players, wanting to prove a point. Jonjo Shelvey in his cameo vs Northampton showed more ability than Poulsen in all his games so far (I also watched Denmark vs Portugal recently - he was at fault for all 3 Portugal goals). Players like Spearing, Kelly, Darby, Pacheco, Suso need to be blooded in- or risk stagnating in the reserves. Other clubs use their young stars (Blackburn-Phil Jones, Arsenal - Wilshere et al, Chelsea - Kakuta, McEacheren etc. . ) why don't we!

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18 Oct 2010 17:29:10
SACK ROY NOW! we need frank rijkaard asap. we need to try and get kaka from madrid to play along side gerrard. and we need either darren bent or eto from inter to play alongside torres. . we need wingers to play on the wing NOT STRIKERS. we need young, arda turan, mata, adam johnson if we can get them. then on the bench shelvey, suso, bring them through now. . football is an easy game you just got to know what your doing and roy dont!

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18 Oct 2010 17:25:22
Rikjaard or O'Neil (rather Martin) will replace Hodgson in January if Liverpool are not within the top 8! Lets face it we won't be there by then so. .New manager will be provided with funds in region of 40m. If this happens i hope we sign the following:
- L. Lopez and M. Bastos for a combined 30million, Lopez to partner torres and Bastos to act as a parallel to Johnson but on the left. . this will add pace and width to a team that is desperate for it.
- M. Vukinic 15mill (pace + flair will improve morale and situation at Anfield.
- I hope Aqua will also return as i think he has the right mindset (attacking) and wants to play for Liverpool.

I no this adds to over 40 million but i expect a lot of players to be sold:
Babel, Poulsen/ Lucas, Maxi (worst Reds player ive seen) and Insua.
With the above brought in and sold i hope we can recover into the top six (maybe) and then next season hit the ground running and get our place in the top 4 back, along with the building of a new 60,000+ stadium. Keep the Faith YNWA

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18 Oct 2010 17:24:01
All of you who are worried because werner said that hodgson was safe that is rubbish, think about it for a asecond why would he come out and say they do not support him yea cause he would do a better job knowing he doesn't have the support of the board or owners. He will probably get the chance til the end of the season and then like i said before if he isn't doing the job well then he will be replaced as this is what the owners did with a redsox manager taht almost got them to the worldseries the year before they won it witha new manager sogive it time its not like we have a chance now at a title or a 4th spot and if it is going to happen it won't be because they bring back kenny it is going to be because the players are figuring out what roy wants from them ed do you agree? ? {ed's note - I don't see Roy lasting the season, saying that a point against Everton would have been good is a sacking offence on its own for me. Does he not understand what it is like for those of us who are from the city to have to face our Blue friends and family? The only result that is good is a win, anything else is not good enough, no matter who we face, but in particular against Everton.}

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18 Oct 2010 17:21:11
As far as i am concerned, this is the poorest Liverpool side i have seen in my generation. They are to slow, there's no passion, no skill and no determination.
First of all start by dropping Carragher. He is WAAAY past it. Too slow.

Sell:
Johnson
Skrtel
Konchesky
Poulsen
Lucas
Maxi
Jovanovic
Kuyt
Aurelio
Krygiakos
and all the other average squad players and all the people out on loan accept from Aquilani


Keep: Reina, Agger, R. Meireles, J.Cole, Gerrard, Babel, Torres, Ngog.

After doing all of that, you end it by sacking Roy Hodgson. Hes even more negative than Rafa and most importantly, he hasnt go a clue. He hasnt realised what club he is at.

LIVERPOOL FC

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18 Oct 2010 17:12:04
Liverpool to sign Gervinho from Lille for a fee around 10 million
LFC 4 Life

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18 Oct 2010 17:03:48
Not a rumour just a personal opinion i think kenny miller would be a good signing well capable of the rigors of prem leauge just thought id put it out to there. ed?. .celtic fan by the way. {ed's note - er no, he wasn't good enough a division below, he is certainly not Premier League class.}

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18 Oct 2010 17:03:42
Transfers January - Summer:

Scott Dann (Young, Enthusiastic, Talented, Has LFC in his blood)
Ryan Shawcross (Same criteria as above minus LFC, both have pace, good positioning, win the ball in the air and on the ground)
Gary Cahill (Same as above sorry)
Juan Mata (Everything a wide man needs)
Alexis Sanchez (All round quality, same as above)
Javier Pastore / Marek Hamsik / Defour (Link Between Midfield & Defence, technically quality)
Edin Dzeko (Young, 6'4, Strong & Powerful, very high games to goals ratio, take a lot of the punishment off Torres)
Romelu Lukaku (Very young but same as above, and I know he needs to finish his schooling first)
Lacina Traore
Llorente

We have an abundance of talent in the reserves also! Say 3-4 of any of the players above with the addition of our youth that's a solid 1st team squad, minus the deadwood!

James Mc

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18 Oct 2010 16:51:26
This is theturdz speaking
as is said months ago that hodgeson was a bad move by the board to give him the job now its coming back to haunt us, this job is the biggest in world football and we need someone who commands the total respect of the players and fans someone the players will respond to instantly and who won't take any s* t that man is kenny dalglish so what hes been out of the game for a while hes still got his finger on the pulse believe me he wanted the job as he pointed out the ones that were interviewed wernt good enough for lfc give the man a chance and watch the red army march up the league.
from theturdz who knows time is not on our side

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18 Oct 2010 16:49:34
Paddy Power : Next Liverpool Manager -

Martin O'Neill 7/ 4
Mark Hughes 28/ 1
Gerard Houllier 66/ 1

Kenny Dalglish 5/ 2
David Moyes 33/ 1
Carlo Ancelotti 66/ 1

Frank Rijkaard 10/ 1
Fabio Capello 33/ 1
Gianfranco Zola 80/ 1

Didier Deschamps 11/ 1
Quique Sanchez Flores 33/ 1
Kevin Keegan 80/ 1

Gus Hiddink 12/ 1
Laurent Blanc 33/ 1
Roy Keane 80/ 1

Jurgen Klinnsmann 14/ 1
Steve McClaren 33/ 1
Jamie Redknapp 100/ 1

Martin Jol 16/ 1
Sven Goran Eriksson 40/ 1
Alan Hansen 100/ 1

Jose Mourinho 20/ 1
Manuel Pellegrini 40/ 1
Graeme Souness 100/ 1

Marcelo Lippi 20/ 1
Jamie Carragher 40/ 1
Phil Thompson 100/ 1

Harry Redknapp 25/ 1
Luiz-Filipe Scolari 50/ 1
Robbie Fowler 200/ 1

Louis Van Gaal 25/ 1
Roberto Mancini 50/ 1
Alex Ferguson 200/ 1

Slaven Bilic 25/ 1
Sammy Lee 66/ 1
Steve Staunton 500/ 1


- Robinho

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18 Oct 2010 16:34:51
Hi Ed, love the site. Been following the site for some time and the LFC page has been a great addition. Not a rumour but please post as this is my first time to post.
With the arrival of Henry and NESV this period is being hailed as the beginning of a new era but nothing is going to happen overnight, this is a great opportunity for the club to get back to the top but only if things are done right.
First of all we need to forget about Europe, C.L. and E.C. I know some of you will say that this needs to be a priority for LFC in order to attract the big names but how many times have we seen that that's all they are, big names, who offer very little and who have no understanding of what the red shirt means to people and what it means to play for LFC. We don't need big names at LFC, we need players who will give everything to play for the jersey and know what the jersey means. Players who have a desire and hunger to play for LFC. Not players who are there for the money or just because we are in the C.L. We also arent dependent to CL money anymore so its not vital we are in it.
Now is not the time for Mourinho, the club needs a no nonsense manager who will not put up with underperforming players and get rid of the ones who don't appreciate the fact that they are playing for LFC. He needs to promote players from the reserves and youths and couple them with proven premier league players that want to be there and have grown up watching the great teams of the past, players who will give everything like Jamie and Stevie. Build a squad that over time can win the league, then maybe in 3-4 yrs time we can attract the best european players as premier league champions and stay at the top!
The club also needs to get some former greats back around anfield to instill the passion, hunger and desire that's missing at the moment, get Thommo off sky sports and back in the dugout for a start, get Sami back as a defensive coach, get barnes and rush and the likes back around Melwood, when the youth and reserve players see these people around they will up their game to impress them, I know I would.
Regarding Torres, if he wants to go let him go. On his day he is still the greatest striker in the world and he would be missed big time but he spent his time at Madrid carrying the team and he's expected to do the same now at LFC, its no wonder he's fed up. He spends huge periods out of the game due to no/ poor/ crap service and then is expected to win the game for us with his first touch, and when he doesn't some fickle fans get on his case and say he's sh!te!
Would like to hear peoples opinions on this. {ed's note - I agree almost completely with everything you have said.}

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18 Oct 2010 15:45:09
When watching Liverpool yesterday it was obvious that there wasn't enough creation in the team, this causes gerrard to drop back to fill that gap, which leaves Torres up front on his own. Don't jump on mereiles' back yet as he has only just signed and needs to adjust. We never replaced Alonso properly, he was the man that could create the space for Gerrard and Torres. Now that we have an apparent 25 mil + for jan I think we should buy someone like ever banega as he can defend like masch could and pass like xabi. He will also compliment mereiles. The other areas that need to be targeted are centre back and a pacey winger.
These could be:
Mata 10 mil + babel
Ibrahim affelay- free in summer of 2011
Elia of HSV 15 mil
Centre back as skrtel is looking week this season there is only one option in my eyes and that is shawcross of Stoke.
We need to get rid of all of the below average players such as Lucas Skrtel Kyriagkos Poulsen El Zhar Maxi Babel
Then sign a Decent striker in jan.
What do you think ed?
Liverbird {ed's note - I think you are right in the players who are weak links, but I am not sure about Shawcross as a solution. We already have Wilson and Ayala, both of those are better in my opinion, they just don't have his experience yet. So play them and let them get the experience.}

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18 Oct 2010 15:43:52
Why wait until the summer? Any money spent in January could end up going on players who the next long-term manager doesn't fancy. In the meantime, Liverpool have wasted 6 months when the new guy could be starting to get his message across. Come the start of next season, LFC will be in a stronger position if they had a settled manager. The only justification I can think of for an interim manager is if there was a target lined up who wasn't yet available. Added to that, I love KK, and it would break my heart if it didn't work out.

thats why i said it won't start untill summer, i can't see any realy decent manager joining until the summer, and it gives us chance to find a realy good one without rushing in again, i think bringing in someone like kk as interim and use the squad to access who is and isn't good for the future

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18 Oct 2010 15:40:58
Why not give Di Matteo a go as manager doing a good job at West Brom

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18 Oct 2010 14:22:54
Next Sunday we have the chance to redeem our position as 12th man, something we have lost over the last couple of years. Turn up, sing and shout like we did against Cheski in 2005 and support the lads & Roy.They need us more than ever.

PS. Those on the Centenary Stand, buy a scarf!

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18 Oct 2010 14:11:24
Wotcha think of Frank Rijkarrd then Ed ?
KB {ed's note - he hasn't exactly done much since leaving Barca, and there his job was fairly easy. Not one I would want to manage us to be honest.}

Not sure you can describe the Barca lob as fairly easy -win the league or get the sack- especially when your main rivals have many of the greatest players in the world playing for them. Rijkarrd did a great job at Barelona, although team discipline was apparantly a problem. {ed's note - he had the greatest players in the world playing for him. He had Ronaldinho at his peak and allowed him to became fat and lazy. Rijkaard hasn't a clue about man-management, but he does like to play good football.}

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18 Oct 2010 14:09:08
Ricardo fuller is cheap and will want to join us. wat do you think ed

Shoukat {ed's note - already been discussed mate, he has the same knee problem as Ledley King and so can not play many games a season. I fail to see the point in signing a player who will spend more time on the treatment table than on the pitch.}

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18 Oct 2010 14:09:07
Anyone any update on what was talked about at nesv-fans meeting today- - -mainly is hodgson going to be sacked if we don't win either of next 2 matches(napoli-blackburn) the truth pls- not just some stupid made up lie

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18 Oct 2010 14:08:25
The kind of player we need to support torres tho right? {ed's note - I would go for a target man myself, Kevin Davies, Darren Bent for instance. Someone to be the pivot for Torres to do his running off.}

Or Kevin Doyle do you rate him? {ed's note - not really, works hard, incredibly hard, but all in the wrong areas. We need someone who stays within the width of the 6 yard box, like Shearer used to do at Newcastle, and allows Torres to run the channels.}

Is Shearer still playing? We should try and get him!

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18 Oct 2010 14:06:07
I don't understand the calls on this site for King Kenny to return short term. The rebuilding job at LFC is a significant one, but you must have your manager in place first. Whether that is Roy or somebody else I'm not sure, but the one thing you can't have is a short term appointment. That is not the way to build for the future. If Roy is the to be the manager for the long term so be it, but he must be backed 100%. If he isn't, replace him with someone who can build the next Liverpool team, and who can see that process through to completion.

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18 Oct 2010 14:00:28
Dont think i have ever seen us play as badly without a cutting edge, creating nothing, Roy has to go i know its only eight games but the bad thing is henry and werner will stick by roy i know for a fact he won't be sacked. IN henrys own words "we had to make changes when we took over the red sox as the manager and general manger were dysfunctional" Roy will be given our full backing. Doesnt matter if there is 10 board meetings this week at anfield the manager will be staying SADLY.
DCG

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18 Oct 2010 13:59:41
Wotcha think of Frank Rijkarrd then Ed ?
KB {ed's note - he hasn't exactly done much since leaving Barca, and there his job was fairly easy. Not one I would want to manage us to be honest.}

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18 Oct 2010 13:52:54
I'm not sure that the new owners will have much of a view yet at to the manager and if he should be replaced. And I wouldn't be so bold as to suggest that they have any favourites. .
From what I saw yesterday Martin Broughton spent much of the time explaining the rules of football (soccer) to the new owners - so I doubt that they would have a strong opinion on football management when they have barely got to grips with the offside rule.
The people who will influence the decision will be Broughton, Ayres, Purslow and King Kenny.
Does Roy have their confidence?

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18 Oct 2010 13:50:42
To all the posters out there calling for roy to be replaced by king kenny please stop now. It is never going to happen. Kenny was brought in. in an advisor role to find a new manager in the summer he turned round and said he wanted the job (source my liverpool home king kennys book) do people honestly think that when roy gets the sack (he has to for me) they will aproach kenny and admit they was wrong to give roy the job over him I don't think so. I think they should of given him the job first time round he would command the resepct needed. I see a lot of people throwing names about but what about the u 18 coach roldoff what's his name from barcelona as an outside bet did he not leave barcelona for being over looked ed any thoughts {ed's note - I would prefer not to have another manager who doesn't know English football well, I want someone who comes in and can hit the ground running.}

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18 Oct 2010 13:46:04
{Editor's Note: There has been a lot of discussion about Lass Diarra. I just want to say that he comes with very considerable baggage I really would advise against such a player.}
Do you agree this type of player is needed - a proper replacement for Masch? If not Diarra - someone in a similar mould - Wilson Palacios? Ever Banega? Moussa Sissoko? {ed's note - Ever Banega is more of a replacement for Xabi Alonso and that is what we need. Players like Mash are only worthwhile if you have a ton of attacking flair, we don't have that so we need midfielders who can support the attacks. No thank you to Palacios or Sissoko.}

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18 Oct 2010 13:26:05
Affelay, Lass Diarra and Gomez to come in Jan;
Poulson, Lucas, Maxi to leave. .line up. .attacking line up will be as follows:

cole, gerrard, diarra, affelay
gomez torres

NESV want to bring in Phil Thompson to sure up defence and they will then look to buy defenders once solidified place in mid table. . they are happy with prospect of 4 of johnson, carra, agger, skrtel, kelly, wilson, aurelio if/ when they are fit playing well.

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18 Oct 2010 13:16:50
The kind of player we need to support torres tho right? {ed's note - I would go for a target man myself, Kevin Davies, Darren Bent for instance. Someone to be the pivot for Torres to do his running off.}

Or Kevin Doyle do you rate him? {ed's note - not really, works hard, incredibly hard, but all in the wrong areas. We need someone who stays within the width of the 6 yard box, like Shearer used to do at Newcastle, and allows Torres to run the channels.}

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18 Oct 2010 13:15:39
Tom Werner has said that Roy Hodgson's job is secure after Liverpool's 2-0 defeat to fellow merseyside strugglers Everton. Think of this as you will but I for one want to see Kenny until the end of the season, there is no doubt that the players would respect him more. .

In better news when Werner was asked if Roy would be given "Reasonable" funds through transfer windows he replied: "Yes, Absolutely". Whether Roy will be the manager or not we will see but he is odds on to be sacked next in the Premier League.

Hopefully the meating today with the fans and the owners NESV can spark something good to come. Maybe the fans will ask for the stadium to be redeveloped, ask for more funds to become available for players and to sell the players that arent doing the Liverpool badge justice.

Now to transfer rumours. Liverpool have been linked with Mario Gomez of Bayern, Lisandro Lopez of Lyon, Ryan Shawcross of Stoke, Mirko Vucinic of Roma and Ibrahim Afellay of PSV Eindhoven. Players been linked away from the club are Glen Johnson to Real Madrid or Juventus, personally I can't see him going to Real with Sergio Ramos and Arbeloa already there, Alberto Aquilani to Juventus and Fernando Torres to a lot of clubs.

Thanks for reading. YNWA

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18 Oct 2010 13:13:25
If we protest to sacking roy at anfield vs blackburn the owners will take notice.
Just imagine , if we draw or even lose, the booing would be sooooo loud the owners must act there and then. And would sack hodgson

Harry5

This would be a great idea, then after that every top manager will be begging to manage Liverpool!

RED BOB

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18 Oct 2010 13:10:43
Ed what do you think of Ricardo Fuller alongside Torres up front? {ed's note - good player but he has dodgy knees, same problem as Ledley King, would be another player who wouldn't play often enough to make it worthwhile.}

The kind of player we need to support torres tho right? {ed's note - I would go for a target man myself, Kevin Davies, Darren Bent for instance. Someone to be the pivot for Torres to do his running off.}

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18 Oct 2010 13:10:23
18 Oct 2010 12:23:31
Rumours at lfc. .of woy getting boot today
true or not i hope so

update looks like could be out today or noooooo given a little more time. .ffs out now. .

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18 Oct 2010 13:09:45
6 points from 8 games.! Equivalent to 2 wins & 6 defeats. If w had loast 6 at this point Roy Hodgson WOULD be gone. Hiddink the best too replace him.

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18 Oct 2010 13:07:21
Ed what do you think of Ricardo Fuller alongside Torres up front? {ed's note - good player but he has dodgy knees, same problem as Ledley King, would be another player who wouldn't play often enough to make it worthwhile.}

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18 Oct 2010 13:06:05
Why was Glen Johnson out of the squad yesterday? {ed's note - he withdrew with a thigh injury.}

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18 Oct 2010 12:37:20
I've been lead to believe that Roys got 5 games left then if still no good King Kenny's coming in as the owners what to keep the fans happy

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18 Oct 2010 12:32:12
NESV are big fans of Frank Rijkardd

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18 Oct 2010 12:23:31
Rumours at lfc. .of woy getting boot today
true or not i hope so

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18 Oct 2010 12:15:47
18 Oct 2010 10:58:02
Phil Thompson stated recently that he would find it difficult to leave his current role on Sky

>>>>>>
I'm sure he would, but the chance to work back at liverpool might be too tempting to turn down,
He's a coach, has the nature for it, knows the game and could sort out our leaky defence.

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18 Oct 2010 12:14:36
Will you ever post my form or are you an exclusive club?

{Editor's Note: If your message has not made it through there will be a reason - have you checked it is not under "Banter"?}

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18 Oct 2010 12:13:43
Liverpool Rumour:
Steve McClaren is being lined up to replace Roy Please god no

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18 Oct 2010 12:11:09
That does not mean season- its calendar year and Roy will be ousted after Xmas so that they can find a new manager, and offer them a transfer kitty of allegedly 40k (plus cash from player sales).
LOL 40 GRAND NESV ARE SO GENEROUSE LMAO

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18 Oct 2010 12:09:51
38 years man and boy and i have never seen such a bad liverpool team. All the talk about the off field situation should not reflect how we play, as i stated before they are getting paid. Im fed up with the style of play! Roy hasnt changed a thing we need to get rid of the negative 451 system which is clearly not working. It's obvious that roy doesn't comand any respect and the players are not responding too him. I know its early but Roy needs to go now! !How can we be in a relegation fight, Shanks would be rolling in his grave, the players are a F^&*ing disgrace! Torres wants to go that's clear.Maxi is the worst player i have seen since Kevin Francis played for blues.(I know he is not same style as Francis but he's just as Sh* e).
Yes we always give managers time to get sorted but come on get real this guy gonna take us down to the level of Fulham and remember when he was in charge of Blackburn, SAME THING! !So i know some fans will be thinking fickle fan etc but please vote believable if you would like to see WOY gone! !Sooner the better. YNWA

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18 Oct 2010 12:08:13
Just heard on Radio merseyside that Stve McClaren has been approached by the Liverpool board.

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18 Oct 2010 12:02:12
Board meeting today at LFC.

Please please add to the agenda - AOB Woys Redundancy Payment

And his p45

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18 Oct 2010 12:02:11
Liverpool Rumour:
Steve McClaren is being lined up to replace Roy.

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18 Oct 2010 12:00:56
In response
That does not mean season- its calendar year and Roy will be ousted after Xmas so that they can find a new manager, and offer them a transfer kitty of allegedly 40k (plus cash from player sales).

Wow realy so much, a whole 40 grand

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18 Oct 2010 11:59:42
To Ed/ reds fans
I just wanted your views on this, I spent a hour debating about not sacking managers with a mate last night about roy.

Now am not for not sacking managers but last night and the blackpool game i think roy should have gone and this is because in the 8 games he has been in charge i can not remember feeling anywhere happy with they way we have played, also not to mention when we went 2-0 down yesterday the man stood there for 20mns with his hand on his chin without a clue what to do, & today on radio city he states a draw would have been a good result and also a win at a push wouldn't have bad? and its the best we've played all season.

I mean i think roy going round the bend in old age because i don't know what he's watching & you know it's poor when you start looking for eastenders on the tv guide.

I also can't understand the fact when a new manager comes in the players pick themselves up for 5 to 10 games and it's not happened for us.

I just think that he should go before its gets any worse because i was arguing with my mate yesterday that our next game at home won't be easy as big sam will say just throw it in the mix and make them panic as they did yesterday?, also bolton away & then chelsea home by then we could really be in the sh*t & i just hope the new owners have the bottle to do it now, as people keep telling me we are to good to go down but as robbie fowler said yesterday leeds side that went down was better than that red side and many a good team have gone down because the results just get a snow ball effect.

Whats your views fellow reds & ed ?.

Sack Roy(Belv) Keep Roy (Unbe) {ed's note - I don't like the idea of sacking a manager after 8 matches, but I think he is on a hiding to nothing. The players know he is only a stop gap and they are not putting the effort in, the choice to me is whether they back him and give the players a kick up their collective backside or whether they change the manager. Personally I think the players should be ashamed of themselves today and they are just as in need of changing as the manager.}

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18 Oct 2010 11:58:10
Im not suprised if nando and stevie are fed up! they have been the backbone of our team over recent years along with Reina and Carra, peeees me off that all you fans jump on them like they are'nt playing well it starts at the back defence is awfull Carra is past it even heart can't win games, Johnson is poor along with konchesky no build up play, ump the ball up front were playing pass to stevie n nando that's all too much expectation on the pair,

Frustrated fan!

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18 Oct 2010 11:56:15
Board meeting today at LFC.

Please please add to the agenda - AOB Woys Redundancy Payment

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18 Oct 2010 11:54:27
I have a feeling that torres will move on in the summer. He resembles a little girl with his constant complaining. He is paid 100,000 pound a week for doing something he loves but doesn't seem to care. For me get rid of him easy get 50 million for him get mata from valencia and possibly aguero or dzeko. Someone who will play with passion in the famous red shirt. Arda turan would be a great bit of business. Believeable or not

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18 Oct 2010 11:49:03
Can someone post any information on who Liverpool's scouts are.
First Name:Mike
Surname:McGlynn
Town of Birth:Liverpool
Job Title:Assistant Chief Scout
Joined:2007
Thats all i know if its any help

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18 Oct 2010 11:45:23
* * LIVERPOOL FC NEWS * *

Mr Henry has been coy about Investing in Liverpool, but the most important thing he said was "we are going to do a lot of listening to the fans"

He was speculating whether the priority was to invest in the stadium or in the squad.

After Sundays performance, he was seen consulting King Kenny- The immediate need is most definitely the squad. Henry has gone public by saying they trust "Roy for the rest of this year". .

That does not mean season- its calendar year and Roy will be ousted after Xmas so that they can find a new manager, and offer them a transfer kitty of allegedly 40k (plus cash from player sales).

"Listening to the fans:"

If they can not find a new manager with proven trophy success, Dalglish will be given the role until at least May - and this will be seen as a massive win over of the fans.

Roys days are definitely numbered, especially as Kenny also highlighted that Konchesky, Poulsen were two very ordinary purchases!


* * * YNWA P NUNN * * *

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18 Oct 2010 11:37:39
Rumours swirling around the internet this morning are suggesting that Liverpool's new owners NESV are weighing up taking the £3 million hit it would take to release current manager Roy Hodgson back into the wild - thus clearing the way to install Frank Rijkaard at the Anfield helm.

Throughout the mind-numbingly convoluted negotiations that proceeded NESV's buyout, the American sports consortium were repeatedly said to favour Hodgson as the man they would trust to oversee Liverpool's new dawn.

However, it would now seem that after yesterday's embarrassing derby defeat (a performance that Hodgson described as the best he'd witnessed since he took charge), John W Henry and co. are seriously rethinking their stance.

Rijkaard is currently in charge at Galatasaray, but has not enjoyed a particularly impressive stint in Turkey and is thought to be angling for an exit after another underwhelming start to this season's campaign.

I'm sure that many Liverpool fans would argue that the £3 million might be put to better use cancelling Christian Poulsen's contract, but hey ho.

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18 Oct 2010 11:35:50
Can someone post any information on who Liverpool's scouts are.

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18 Oct 2010 11:30:36
Tom Henry to strip the club back to its bare bones in a effort to save money. If he does what he did with the Red Sox, expect a third of the players to go to reduce the wage bill and to bring in much needed coffers. I expect Torres to go, as he is nothing more than a liability at the moment and clearly doesn't want to play for the club anymore. Gerrard also doesn't look happy and is a shadow of his former self; we should cash in along with Reina, who looks Arsenal bound. Come the end of January we should be leaner with a bit of money to spend. It looks like no new ground anywhere on the horizon.

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18 Oct 2010 11:28:47
The new owners have talked about the uefa rules in 2012- a clear indication that they arent going to splurge in jan or even next summer. They are looking to follow the arsenal way of using general revenues on player investment. So don't get your hopes high guys. 25mil including player sales is all we are going to get . A striker-carlton cole if roy is still in the helm or another average striker if there s another manager at that point. . And a winger. . Some cheap and average winger.
Very sorry state.
What do you say ed? {ed's note - why is that a sorry state, living within our means is the way it should be done.}
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Agree with Ed here. . The Debt has just been cleared! now is not the time to spend £100 mil and create more. . I also expect player prices to drop drastically when the rules are introduced and we will have the means to compete with everyone in the transfer market. . Ed? {ed's note - I agree completely mate, everyone will have to spend less and prices will drop accordingly.}

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18 Oct 2010 11:25:35
BIG rumour flying around the City that Stevie and Jamie had a MASSIVE stand up row with Torres to the point where Jamie had to be held back from hitting him. They feel he has given up on LFC and isn't trying anymore. This is causing a HUGE rift in the squad that Woy simply cannot control. Dark times indeed.

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18 Oct 2010 11:25:00
There are rumours of Rooney wanting to leave Man Utd. . .Ed! any chance of us signing him. . . {ed's note - no, none luckily.}

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18 Oct 2010 11:17:02
The new owners have talked about the uefa rules in 2012- a clear indication that they arent going to splurge in jan or even next summer. They are looking to follow the arsenal way of using general revenues on player investment. So don't get your hopes high guys. 25mil including player sales is all we are going to get . A striker-carlton cole if roy is still in the helm or another average striker if there s another manager at that point. . And a winger. . Some cheap and average winger.
Very sorry state.
What do you say ed? {ed's note - why is that a sorry state, living within our means is the way it should be done.}

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18 Oct 2010 11:13:50
Thats a good shout with Valencias Coach, his name is Unai Emery and has done well with every team he has managed.

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18 Oct 2010 11:09:59
Woy has THREE games left to save his skin. Anything other than a win next weekend at home and he will be told to fall on his sword. Kenny will be given temp control to till Jan. He plays golf at the same Club as me and has been waxing lyrical for the last two weeks. Watch this news gather pace as it starts to leak to the media!

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18 Oct 2010 11:03:27
Any chance of us getting Del Bosque to replace Woy?
He has a good record at club level and is a world cup winner, maybe King Kenny to assist. .
Ed, what do you think?

We definitely need an attack minded coach! {ed's note - I doubt we could get him, would be nice though!}

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18 Oct 2010 10:58:41
"18 Oct 2010 10:30:02
To this guy:
18 Oct 2010 08:58:38

Potential coaches:
Hiddink - my first choice but very unlikely
Rafa - impossible
Mourinho -too boring, impossible
Riikard - over rated but not bad
Ronald Koeman - interesteing possibility
Martin o neil - the people calling for him are probably the same people who said get rid of rafa and bring roy - my last choice
Slaven bilic - interesting possibility
Klinsman - messed up at bayern
Van Gaal - my second choice but impossible
Joachim Leow - my third choice
Kenny Dalglish - tempting but too risky
pellegrini -hell no
juande ramos - hell no

if unable to get a world class coach we should take a risk and get valencias coach. .don't know his name

What about Michael Laudrup or Van Basten?
MON deff no no

Lee"

Why do you dismiss Pellegrini? He'd be around the top of my list.

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18 Oct 2010 10:58:07
{Editor's Note: And where will the £100M come from?}

Ed; i'm not aware what amounts exist in the current books for all the various accounts but here goes. .

I think we have a bit or leftover from the Mash and Benayon sales. . (I think it was a mistake to sell the latter). . i think this is around 20 mil, as the Debt has cleared up we don't need that for interest payments

Add that to whatever we can recoup from selling
1. Poulsen (has not even made a small impression) ~ 5 mil
2. Konckesky (only played decent football yesterday) ~ 3 mil
3. Kuyt I hate to say this. .but though the guy deserves to be in the Hall of Fame for Liverpool, and has been one of Rafa's best buys. has a work ethic and personality which is a complement to LFC, he IS past 30 and i believe we can now do with a bit more creativity. . what say? ~ 8 to 10 mil (Inter)
4. Degen. . why keep someone on the books when we don't want him ~ 1.5 to 2 mil
5. Maxi. . not suited to English football. .though he might have worked better as a second striker. . down the middle. . ~ 4 - 5 mil
6. Aurelio (we can keep the Greek as backup CD) . . I don't know why we resigned him if we were getting Konchesky. . ~ 1 mil
7. El Zahr ~ Quick but no skills ~ 2 mil
and that equals around 20 + 24 = 44 and the wage budget nicely cleared
New owners could stump up the rest. to make ~ 90 / 100 Mil

Recall Aquilani, play him between Gerrard and the Holding midfielder. Play Lucas in a similar role or as a defensive mid.

Try to get a ball-winner like Moussa Sissokok, brother of Mohammadou Sissoko. (at Toulouse FC) or even M Sissoko back. .someone in the mold of mash. .we need that type of player too

I think Jova needs a run of games to prove himself. He is quick and good at riding tackles

I think we could move for target man Edin Dzeko, similar to Chamak and could be a great foil for Torres

Mata or Alexis Sanchez or Walcott AND Soritis Ninis or Luis Suarez (two of these wingers) [somehow is don't rate Young that highly]
Another winger we can look at is Bentley (we missed out on Johnson to Chelsea)

Micah Richards (CD) and use Jamie at RB or as CD cover. .he isn't that quick but still has a cross!
or blood Wilson into the first team by Jan to provide cover

Left back is more of a problem position than the wings now. .i always liked Srna. Another option is the Brazilian LB felipe. .
and whatever became of Rafinha?

I think we have good players and can
Play Babel as a winger/ striker
Play Jovanovic as a left winger
Play Gerrard/ cole behind Torres and play Cole on the right for width for games in which we need to attack.

still disappointed red (looking for hope)

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18 Oct 2010 10:58:02
Phil Thompson stated recently that he would find it difficult to leave his current role on Sky

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18 Oct 2010 10:41:23
Roy needs to bring Suso out of reserves and into the first team this kid has creativity in abundance the very thing we are lacking right now

Jack Wilshire would'nt hold a candle to him in six months

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18 Oct 2010 10:38:07
"We are not short-term thinkers or short-term investors."
Words from one of our owners. . I hope they stand by this 1.
Because even, if roy gets some good result (seems unlikely, though), he is nothing but a very short-term solution. .

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18 Oct 2010 10:37:45
We need someone with a big reputation and big ego, someone who will intimidate the players, push them, scare them into giving their everything.
I don't think any available manager has them skills, so we must compromise, lob kenny dalglish in, assissted by phil thompson and john aldridge.
All are well respected, aldridge is experienced and passionate, i think phil thompson would make a good manager with abit more experience and kenny could make the big calls.

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18 Oct 2010 10:31:38
{ed's note - I think he will be on his way this week to be honest, I don't think the new owners want to mess about and wait.}

i hope, you get this one, right! He don't deserves to be given any time. Its now 8 games and we have got only 6 points and are on the rock bottom of the table. . Just above West Ham only. .

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18 Oct 2010 10:30:33
Liverpool's new co-owner Tom Werner insists Hodgson's job is safe and he will be given transfer funds to spend in January.

Fellow co-owner John W Henry has already given his backing to Hodgson and Werner insists they will stick by the former Fulham boss despite their struggles.


Looks like Woy's going nowhere! !

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18 Oct 2010 10:30:02
To this guy:
18 Oct 2010 08:58:38

Potential coaches:
Hiddink - my first choice but very unlikely
Rafa - impossible
Mourinho -too boring, impossible
Riikard - over rated but not bad
Ronald Koeman - interesteing possibility
Martin o neil - the people calling for him are probably the same people who said get rid of rafa and bring roy - my last choice
Slaven bilic - interesting possibility
Klinsman - messed up at bayern
Van Gaal - my second choice but impossible
Joachim Leow - my third choice
Kenny Dalglish - tempting but too risky
pellegrini -hell no
juande ramos - hell no

if unable to get a world class coach we should take a risk and get valencias coach. .don't know his name

What about Michael Laudrup or Van Basten?
MON deff no no

Lee

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18 Oct 2010 10:30:01
Why not joachim loew ?
He ll bring in the likes of hansen, marko marin, kroos. .

What do you think ed ? {ed's note - I do love the way he gets the German team playing, I would enjoy seeing us play that way.}

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18 Oct 2010 10:28:35
Ed! After the game owner came out to give support to Roy (quite surprisingly). . .do u still think he will be fired this week. . .well as for me I surely think he should be fired. . what say Ed!. {ed's note - I do think they will fire him, it is just the impression I get reading up about them, they are ruthless.}

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18 Oct 2010 10:24:29
BBC said yesterday that hodgson was looking to sign Brunt for 9mil , if theres any truth to this Roy needs to walk now he can't be trusted with a deacent transfer kitty ffs you could buy the whole club of west brom for 9mil

The shame of this text is that what you say between the lines. If you think West brom are worth less than £9M, then Liverpool must be worth a lot less than that and Henry and his pals have been stitched up. West Brom are a better team than you.

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18 Oct 2010 10:24:10
We should mail a link to this site to John W Henry let him see for himself where the fans stand on the team and management , he said he'd listen to us lets see if he will

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18 Oct 2010 10:05:24
Hello, first time poster long time reader.

It seems that there is a lot of unrest in the team and the majority is coming from the golden boy Torres. Hes had his head turned by barcelona. Real madrid is a definate no mover. His replacement is said to be one of these.

Llorente
Benzema
Aguero

(this isn't concrete though)

This is the one i actually have proof about

Two scouts have been sent to Boca to run the rule over to players in the youth squad.

David Achucarro
Gaston Rossi

Both look like they have a Bright future and Liverpool are keen to tie them down early. figures reaching around 7 million for the pair.

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18 Oct 2010 09:53:37
Roy needs to bring Suso out of reserves and into the first team this kid has creativity in abundance the very thing we are lacking right now

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18 Oct 2010 09:51:42
Frank rijkaard is also being linked with a move to Anfield after Roy is sacked. . He has been gret in past with Barca but failed at galatasaray. .
Ed, who is better between him and Pellegrini. My vote goes to Pellegrini. . Hope roy gets sacked, before its too late. . thanks. .
"You'll never walk alone" {ed's note - I would say Pellegrini is a better manager, Rijkaard's team play good football but he has never really impressed me as a manager.}

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18 Oct 2010 09:46:22
Why is it that when Everton beat us SSN absolutly milk it. Has it become so much of a rare occasion that they throw a party. Ed I want to know when you think Roy will be sacked. I desperatly hope that it is soon. Maybe even if we beat Napoli. {ed's note - I think he will be on his way this week to be honest, I don't think the new owners want to mess about and wait.}

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18 Oct 2010 09:46:15
BBC said yesterday that hodgson was looking to sign Brunt for 9mil , if theres any truth to this Roy needs to walk now he can't be trusted with a deacent transfer kitty ffs you could buy the whole club of west brom for 9mil

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18 Oct 2010 09:44:52
From BBC rumours:

Liverpool are preparing to replace manager Roy Hodgson with Galatasaray boss Frank Rijkaard.

Like the sound of that.


Deagster.

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18 Oct 2010 09:28:37
After yesterdays disappointing result and performance, It is clear to see that the team and manager(s) are not fighting as one. With everone suggesting possible new managers for our great club, I think that one particular manager is being overlooked. He is a young manager who knows how to get the best from his team, has won everything possible and only signed a one year contract extension to his current club taking him to the end of 2010-11 season. He has also stated his desire to manage away from his current league and try pastures new. Please step forward Pep Guardiola. I would love it if he were to be at Anfield next season. (your thoughts ed) {ed's note - I think he is being overlooked because there is so little chance of getting him to manage us!}

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18 Oct 2010 09:24:50
Simple as this:
Next game

Reina

Kelly ayala Agger mavinga

Johnsen Gerrard mereiles cole

Pacheco
Torres

Give this a try gotta give Torres support give roy 2 games with this fail and bye bye. Then bring in pelligrini jan will be a couple of little buys. Summer:
Outs - poulsen kuyt aqua maxi jov kyrakios

Ins - honda sanchez danns mata llorente taiwo nilmar

Line up -

Reina

Johnsen danns agger taiwo

Meriles Bangea Gerrard

Nilmar Torres Mata

Carra pacheco llorente lucas honda sanchez suso kelly mavinga Babel
Cole ayala

Bel you like unbel you don't like

AYALA PLAYS FOR HULL SO IMPOSSIBLE START

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