Liverpool Rumours Archive June 13 2013

 

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13 Jun 2013 22:51:55
Hey Eds, if we buy Mignolet, do you see him as being the new keeper for us with Pepe leaving or do you think they are trying to keep Pepe and get competition for the goalkeeping role {Ed001's Note - I believe we are looking for player who can compete with Reina, with the aim being to be the long term replacement.}

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What does that mean for Brad Jones? Is he staying and also competing, or is he going to make way for the replacement? {Ed001's Note - he is staying as back up.}

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I really like this idea, it is about time we had 2 very good goalkeepers to reassure us.

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I have info that LFC are trying to move on Reina, Skrtel and Johnson. All on 100k a week which is why they are looking to be moved on and also means its hard to do so!

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Is it true that Liverpool have bid 7m for Mignolet already? {Ed002's Note - The club certainly maintain an interest in agreeing a deal for Mignolet and will be looking at a bid higher than that.}

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What about Rafael Cabral any interest from Liverpool in him? {Ed002's Note - No.}

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Johnson will not be leaving.

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Thanks for the replies Ed! If Mignolet is valued higher at around 9m, what was Begovic valued at? Surely he couldn't be more than 12? {Ed002's Note - Around £15M.}

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13 Jun 2013 22:43:43
Eds is it true real are willing to offer higuain + cash for Suarez? {Ed001's Note - they are looking to offer a player/s swap deal + cash, yes. I am not sure which player/s they are willing to offer though. Knowing that he is likely to leave, I would see it as likely to be an option.}

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100% confirmed suarez has asked to leave, Real Madrid only serious option now but others waiting in if the price starts to come down.

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£23m & higuain and we have a deal

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Ed I think that would be a good deal really like higuain still young and got good scoring record wats your thoughts ed001 u think it would be a good one to consider? that's if he would come of course cheers
mike {Ed001's Note - I would take him, if his wages are reasonable. He is a goal scorer.}

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Higuain and 20 million would be realistic imo. Higuain will have more attractive offers but you never know.

Bulmer

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The question is would he come to Liverpool Ed? Cheers.
ROI. {Ed001's Note - I don't know, I am not sure what he is looking for now, it might be he just wants regular playing time ahead of the World Cup.}

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Brendan wants Alvaro Morata. Higuain WILL NOT come to Liverpool.

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This would be a great deal for us the fee we paid for Suarez and higuain but honestly we have to really say would he want to come to us?

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Don't sell ourselves short 35m+Higuain.
Suarez is on a par with Bale if not better and Spurs want 85m. Suarez is worth at least 55m in todays market. Will be gutted to see him go.

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Real just testing how dumb we are. they keep talking about spending huge money on Bale yet they don't have money for Suarez? Reds must stand firm. name a reasonably high price and in cash, no player exchange

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Ed do you know if real would also be open to involving Benzema in a deal or if he would consider LFC Cheers {Ed052's Note - they may, but would he want to come?}

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We shouldn't sell ourselves short - 23mil + Higuain is not enough, either more money or a better player offered in swap deal. We shouldn't allow ourselves to be trodden on everytime we conduct business - if Madrid don't want to pay the fee tough, they've screwed us in the past, about time we got a proper transfer fee off them.

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100% agree its well know and that Higuain will leave Madrid, we will need a striker if Suarez goes so why not say Higuain + £20M, Liverpool have said they want £50M+ for Suarez and Madrid value Higuain at £25M, its world cup year and Higuain will defiantly get game time at Liverpool so a move could be on the cards, I would not accept any other player though as we want proven experienced players not more up and coming {Ed052's Note -

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14 Jun 2013 08:40:13
Suarez might be par to bale of not better but he also has a habit of being banned for 1/3 of the season. That should brin his price down a bit

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Higuain + Alvaro Morata and 15M for Suarez and we have a deal Morata is the best under-21 Striker in Spain and that's a fact!.

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Higuain + Alvaro Morata and 15M for Suarez and we have a deal Morata is the best under-21 Striker in Spain and that's a fact!.

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I would be amazed if Higuain turned down a host of top offers to join Liverpool. That being said if RM could force him to join Liverpool it would more than likely be a straight swap. RM value Higuain at around €40m. I imagine they value Suarez at the same. £23m + Higuain, there are some dreamers on this page ;)

Disney! {Ed052's Note - nobody can force Hig to join us}

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14 Jun 2013 10:50:54
Yes yes YES! Higuain (No9) thankyou very much. Coutinho and Aspas passing off to him it will be a goal everytime. I'm foaming out my mouth like Cujo thinking of the prospect. Perfect replacement for Suarez :-D
BR hope u and your board read these comments?.

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14 Jun 2013 10:56:55
Id take Modric in any swap plus cash deal!

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Gazz, we also have Sturridge don't forget.

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Suarez is NOT on a par with Bale. let's not kid ourselves here chaps, Bale takes better free kicks, corner, is quicker, doesn't get banned for 10 games.

I would personally rather have Benzema than Higuain. I don't think Higuain is worth £25 million either. I think if Liverpool can get £23 million + Higuain it's ok business. {Ed052's Note - are you a secret Spurs fan. Everybody knows how special a player Suarez is, better than RVP ir Bale, but he lets himself down on and off the pitch}

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Pound for pound Suarez is the third best player in the world ahead of Falcao Bale and Aguero. 70m + should be his price but I doubt FSG will push for that. Do you guys think even Ronaldo or Messy would have done a better job in our team last season? I doubt it! Suarez was out of this world game in game out. Best player we've had since Gerrard at his peak.

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14 Jun 2013 13:16:35
LFC_Londoner. Alright geezer how's it goung? I know we got Sturridge and hope he will continue to crack in loads more goals. I was just picturing Higuain doing the same. Having Higuain, Sturridge, Borini, Coutinho and Aspas upfront will certainly give me higher hope of fighting for CL
All the best LFC_Londoner. Peace mate ;-)

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I've sprung up a debate with this one haven't I Eds haha I personally would take Higuain and cash for suarez :D Good deal in my eyes.

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I don't rate higuain peronaly and suarez as already mentioned is the the third best player in the world on current form, 70mill or he can rotin the ressies for me, no player is biggerthan the club and a message needs to be sent out there, just like Man city did with tevez!
suarez stays or leaves on our terms not his. 3 years left on his contract and enough atacking tallent to share the goals around.

The real R2Tb

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Suarez is behind Messi and Ronaldo.
Bale had a great season but he is no Suarez.
The comment ''best player since gerrard at his peak'' is spot on. A very special player and we should push for as much money as we can get.
i'd offer him to Monaco for £60m +

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£30 million and I'll go pick up Alonso from the bernabeu

RwG

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This would be a quality deal, we will probably end up selling for 30 and buying bent for 35 though lol

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Alonso higain and 20 mill

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First up, I've no idea why Higuaín would want to come to Liverpool on the surface. It would take a lot of work from Rodgers to pursuede him that we were going in the right direction. he's won all their is to win in Spain, but hasn't won a European trophy, and not only do we not offer Champions league football, hell, we don't even offer Europa League football. that's not really ideal for him going into a world cup year to not even be playing European Football.
That said, if Real offer 25 mil and Higain, then take it, Rodgers so far has bought pretty wisely, and he would make decent use of the 25m.
Alonso. he's a great guy, we love him, he loves Liverpool. But that was then. let's move on.

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Looks like he's off to Arsenal. He also earns £130,000 p/w so I guess he's out of our league for the moment.

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Sturridge is a better player and finisher than Higuain.

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Ed52 I'm not a Spurs fan, I hope what you wrote was just for laughs.

I can't believe how deluded some reds are on here it's actually worrying. 70 million!

Falcao might not have all the tricks Suarez does, but he just carried the equivalent of westham to 3rd in La liga.

Bale had a great season? Bales been brilliant since September 2010

I'm actually embarrassed by some comments on here

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I'd take Alvaro Morata worth around 10m euros and with Suarez worth AT LEAST 55m euros (£46.8m)

SO could do a deal worth 45m euros (around £38m) + Alvaro Morata, 20.

We have tried to get him in the past so why wouldn't we try and include him in a deal seeing as Morata has had a progressive season with RM Castilla.

he is 20 and is physical enough standing at 9ft3 or 9ft4. very quick and can play all 3 forward positions.

prolific at youth international level, and stats were good last season & gained first team experience already so a major plus.

he would fall into the same category as Tiago Ilori, Luis Alberto who are both also 20 and seen as future starters as well as ready for first team football.

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9ft3 and only physical enough wow. lol

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13 Jun 2013 22:37:08
Hi E. D's

Do you know if we retain any interest in Iker Muniain?

I remember are previous interest in him was lukewarm at best but since the, expected, loss of Luis Suarez do you think we will be looking for another dependable striker. I. e. Iker Muniain.

Spanish football isn't looking too healthy at the moment and I think this would be the perfect opportunity for Liverpool to get technically gifted players for relatively cheap.
Muniain is not only gifted but shows a lot of potential, coupled with the fact that Athletico continue to under perform, surely it would make reasonable business sense?

Young player, Athletico in poor financial health. surely we could make an acceptable offer by both teams standards.

Look forward to hearing your opinion E. D. {Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware, we have no interest in him any more.}

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13 Jun 2013 22:01:41
How likely is it that we could go in for Marin, he's a classy player {Ed002's Note - I don't of any interest.}

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Think eds been on the jd he's forgetting to put words in now {Ed002's Note - Well spotted - in a hotel bar wit a G&T.}

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13 Jun 2013 15:05:16
Ed02 with Schurrle now signing for Chelsea is Marin likely to leave? And also are we interested in tKing piazon on loan? {Ed002's Note - I think there is a chance Marin will leave. There has been an approach for Piazon from another EPL side, but not LFC.}

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So could Marko Marin come to Liverpool? {Ed030's Note - If Liverpool where interested(which they are not)there would be a chance. }

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13 Jun 2013 12:27:29
Hi Ed002,
Who is better - Mignolet or Begovic? Will any of the two join Liverpool this summer? thanks. {Ed002's Note - I have explained that Liverool has an interest in Mignolet after deciding Begovic was too expensive.}

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Mignolet would be a big risk he has only had 1 good season. Begovic has been consistent and has the potential to get even better. In my opinion Begovic is the best option just hope we go and get him if Pepe leaves

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13 Jun 2013 13:22:19
Hi Eds,

Are any teams interested in Lucas?

Gabriel {Ed001's Note - does it matter as he is not for sale.}

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Nor is Suarez lol

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Lucas out. Alonso in

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Nice reply ed001 lol

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Who ever said lucas out alonso in stop playing FIFA its gone to your head mate. Alonso is a class player but I think lucas is a future captain and is such an integral player to Rodgers plans and Liverpools future

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Ed001 thank god he isn't. So many people have forgotten how much better we are with him, even with him not 100% fit we were better, yet people think Diame, who most of the time didn't play the same role as Lucas is better than him because of a few showy moments forget the constant awful passes and errors he makes.

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Am I right in saying that these players could all leave Liverpool thi summer and is there anymore you think could or rule out a few that wont
Suarez
Assaidi
Coates
Downing
Reina
Shelvey
Skrtel
Carroll
Pacheco
Spearing

Davy liver cabs {Ed030's Note - I don't see Reina leaving atm maybe skrtel and Downing will stay but apart from that I see most of the leaving. }

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Downing will stay. Henderson future captain

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13 Jun 2013 18:15:23
i wish, he's over rated and not good enough if we want to push on up the table!

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13 Jun 2013 18:19:47
my god! what games have you been watching. lucas is garbage! open your eyes muppets.

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Nice reply ed001 lol

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Lucas is average at best! not good enough 2 command a starting place. it scares me how many people think he's good! {Ed030's Note - I think he is a good player but not good enough to get us into the champions league imo. }

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Interesting list from Davy, mostly confirmed by Ed030.

Wouldn't mind that. Excluding Reina, Downing & Skrtel, I make that list work out to around £75m of transfer fees. Add in £25m from FSG, and that makes a cool £100m. Now I know we musn't forget agents fees, signing on bonuses etc, but even allowing for 25%, that still leaves us £75m to spend (based on headline fees). Not bad.

(Have ignored wages of incomers as they are an ongoing cost rather than upfront investment and will replace wages from leavers. )

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Lucas had a few good games towards the end of the season when we were dominating opposition but I must admit I think many supportters look at him through rose coloured glasses.
CR

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Suppose it's difficult to remember the good games in which we had most the fans on here only pipe up when we've lost, cast your mind back to before his knee injury when he dominated City and Chelsea midfielders and his constistancy. Fools support the players you have

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Most people seem to forget how good he was against Man City when Kenny was in charge.

He's had a few injuries, excellent atitude, loves the club, gives his all.

He might not be first choice but deserves his place in the squad.

It's not all about the first eleven!
dmedly

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I don't rate lucas either when you compare the lad to the likes off didi hamman and alonso as well as mascarano he isn't quite at that standard. and I don't think he will as the lads I mentioned above were very good at winning the ball as well as scoring goals. lucas isn't a threat going forward. then again I rate henderson so it comes down to personal prefrence

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A question worth askin mate and eds it does matter if we want to break in to the top four again we need to get rid of deadwood like lucas

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Lucas deadwood I doubt it mate his commitment and attitude are 1st class not to mention he is a very good footballer yeah not world class but his reading of the game is class and when we get a bit of pace in the defence you will see him improve so much as he won't have to sit as deep

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13 Jun 2013 22:10:51
Lucas made the second most successful tackles in the league this season gone, and missed most of the beginning of it. In all honesty, we are a better team when he is in it and I believe he should be among the first names on the teamsheet

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Lucas is a great player. Most of the people saying he's bad probally just say that about anyone who doesn't score 20 goals a year

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Lucas is not even half decent any of u thinkin he's tidy get a grip and watch the guy play we are not better when he's in the side atall you don't notice him do any good in the team yeah he mite work a bit but when you put in a effort that doesn't benefit the side 1 bit then your deadwood he is a rubbish tackler gets bossed about to easy and doesn't seem to get much respect from much of the team and isn't highly rated at lfc sell him on and buy someone who can make a difference the only person whoever rated him was benitez {Ed001's Note - his job is to not be noticed, if you notice what he is doing, it means he is out of position. Most of his work is off the ball, where you don't see it, moving to create space for a pass or moving to close off space. He does it well.}

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Lucas does the side of the game others don't like to under kenny last season he was our main player untill his injury

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I have always said that he should be replaced ASAP. If we want to get to at least 4th place then we need someone who does a lot more for the team. Yes agreed he has been excellent for our club over the last couple of years, due to the fact that we play a very defensive game and as someone stated he is the 2nd highest tackler in the league ( says it all ). We have some fans on here saying he should be in the team next season, then they must be happy not winning trophies and finishing mid table. FFS people we must be able to improve here.

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When you end up with the second most successful tackles as a defensive midfielder then what more do you want!. His bloody job is to break up play and stop opposition pressure on his defence, Can anyone point out a 15-20 goal scoring defensive midfielder?. There ain't one. If you want to blame someone then blame the other midfielders like Hendo, Allen and Shelvey who are supposed to actually do the scoring. I would only fully agree if you lot of fans said that Lucas needs to improve his attacking side but to totally criticize him when clearly he is doing his job is ridiculous!. That being said, if we could just get a no nonsense CB, then I'm sure Lucas will contribute a lot more offensively, why do you think Lucas always passes forward most of the time rather unlike Allen!. He was an attacking player in Brazil wasn't he?.

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Jon Obi Mikel plays a similar role. He has a CL winners medal. I wouldn't trade Lucas's big toe for 2 Mikels. Lucas is a vital cog in the machine.

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Four managers: Benitez, Roy, Kenny and Rodgers cannot be wrong. They could have sold him out. Rather, he earned his place in all of their first 11. Poulsen, Charlie Adams and Allen have been tried - but no one could do it better than Lucas. On top of that he is a true red and he gives his everything for the club. Carrick/Fletcher are not world beaters either. But they have done it for United year in, year out. You don't need to have top players in all the positions, do you?

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Ed001, if u watch lucas closely, he actually doesn't create angles for a pass. I've watched him many a time when r fullbacks/centre halfs have the ball and instead of moving a few yards 2 create an angle for them 2 make a simple pass, he'll stay still, directly behind the opponent, making the pass impossible. heis game awareness is not as good as people think. he will NEVER be good enough if we are looking to get and remain in that top 4!

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Yes, on EA FIFA you do need top players in all positions. but only if you're mediocre at the game ;)

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Kenny, benitez and rodgers said lucas is good enough for Liverpool. who the hell are you to say he's not.

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Lucas is a good player but not in the same class as Alonso. We need to aim to get our midfield back to when we had 'the best in the world'.
He remains a very valuable team member, but we need to strengthen in the centre of midfield (keeping Lucas, Gerrard, Hendo) and off-load peripheral players that are not good enough (Spearing, Allen)
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And now someone starts on Allen, who is young in the same way that Lucas was when he joined us and the same haters started on on him. When Allen looked good this season, he looked a bargain. Welsh Xavi.

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14 Jun 2013 20:45:40
Lucas is an ok player but not exceptional or world class, if you see his career he has only 1-2 good seasons at lfc, but if you have mascharano or alonso or hamman or toure etc he wouldn't even be looked forget starting, the truth is this is a very poor lfc side compare to before, so players like lucas, etc are praised over the top, as I said he is an ok player but if anyone offers us which I strongly doubt let's say 15M we should take and run, he lacks pace, very, very light, gives all the time fouls in dangerous areas, doesn't have goals, neither have ability to dominate opposition consistantly, in my opinion he is improved version of carrick but then he can pass, have got strong mentality, gives 100%, loves Liverpool, in his day can dominate world class players but not consistant enough, if we want top4 or to progress more, then we need better and consistant players in our team.

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All this nonsense about second most tackles in the leauge. no one remebers second place. fact. who finished second in 2012 olympics in 100m sprint answer that without using google persons. who finished second place and ever got remembered. second best just simply isn't good enough if lucas was top of the list fair enough but he isn't and as for off the ball work what lucas are u watching because it sure ain't the 1 playin for lfc and to the person saying kenny dalglish rated him kenny maybe a ledgend at lfc but his knowledge of the game in these days is an absolute joke the same can be said from his management last time round along with transfers. andy carrol 35 million say no more pal

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The 'I know better than Kenny Dalglish' post. That's it Internet, you win and I am out.

What a prize person.

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Lucas is vital to the team and is one the best in the world in his role. Or maybe we should just play 5 attacking midfielders.

Or a a whole team of strikers, it works on the easiest FIFA setting really well. {Ed030's Note - But Football is not a video game is it mate. }

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Lucas is vital to the team. Ask Gerrard how he feels when he knows Lucas has his back. Ask the CB's how they can count on him to break up opposition flow. It's not all about great passing and goals. Alonso was a genius but a completely different player. Lucas may not be the best DM ever but I bet there aren't many better ones playing outside the top four clubs in each of the European leagues.
Paulo

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13 Jun 2013 12:24:13
If Liverpool sign Tiago Ilori will that effectively end our interest in Papadopolous? Likewise, if we sign Mickey does that end our supposed interest in Christian Eriksen? Also how do you rate Liverpool's chances of signing Ivan Ratickic and Christian Tello? cheers Eds great site {Ed001's Note - no, most likely, not sure and low.}

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I would say we have a good chance of signing Tello because we play the football in which he thrives in, we can offer him regular first team football and Rodgers seems to be the type of manager to allow Tello to improve enough so that he could make it into the " world class" bracket of players. In my opinion, Liverpool is club that should appeal to him greatly.

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Give me mkhtiryan over eriksen any day the Armenian is a workhorse as well as the ideal player we need. Arrive late in the box for those tap ins that's what we need

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Mkhityran and Raticki would be my preferences over Tello and Alberto.

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Papa will be an immense player if he can stay fit he is a no nonsense player but has got pace to add to it and can read the game very well for a young lad think this is the signing I want to happen the most

I like that he looks on the edge every game aswell lfc psyco in the making

In a good way tho

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I believe BR sees Ilori as the long term replacement for Johnson due to his speed, slender frame, and ability to go forward

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13 Jun 2013 12:49:06
I can clarify that we will land a keeper in the next 4 weeks as we only have 2 1st team keepers: Jones and Reina.
Mignolet, Vorm and Begovic are the main targets

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Most teams have only 2 first team keepers and usually use a reserve keeper as third choice. We had Gulacsi last year, and this year, it will be Ward.

We will not land a keeper unless Reina leaves.

The real AG

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Can't see us getting any of them Ali, unless we sell reina.

Ynwa

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Wow. you have got your finger on the pulse ffs

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You can clarify what we have known for weeks lol ok

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13 Jun 2013 16:45:35
Not many teams have 3 truly first team keepers - might Rodgers be looking to play a cutting edge new formation with Mignolet on Crosses and Shot Stopping with Riena on Pens and Distribution??

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Yes we need another keeper to replace Jones because he's 31 I think and he's decent but not good enough. But I don't think that any of these targeted keepers would want to be a cover for Reina, cause they are already first team players and surely that Reina wouldn't want to lose his place.

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Your powers of deduction are amazing, hhmmm now if only there was a Liverpool rumours site where well informed eds could have suggested this info to us weeks ago instead of you having to risk life and limb for this sort of info?

Makes me laugh this stuff has been getting recycled for weeks but then the fantasists who are 'itk' or have 'contacts' claim their man at melwoods just told them then when it happens will be claiming they told us first.

Fester

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14 Jun 2013 22:00:18
what about tim krul?

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Jones is good but is not threatening Reinas position and only plays in cup games or if Reinas injured. When Reias ok again he is straight back in no matter how well Jones has played. We need someone to apply pressure constantly to Reinas position so we need a higher quality goalkeeper as number 2.


Livern01

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13 Jun 2013 11:20:00
Eds you aware of Lille listening to offers on LB Digne? Same report says we were discussing him in May and he is a top priority for Brendan.

Also see Rai Patricio also a target. Is this as well as Mignolet. Does this mean the club want Barca loving Reina out after his usual many press comments? {Ed001's Note - last I heard Lille said no interest had been shown in Digne. I don't know anything regarding Patricio sorry.}

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Patricio is interesting Arsenal Ed002 says.

The real AG

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13 Jun 2013 18:48:36
I though PSG were making a crazy high bid for Digne

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13 Jun 2013 12:09:20
Hi eds,
Do you know the date when Barca decide if they want Luis Alberto?
Cheers,
Iwan {Ed001's Note - as far as I can find out they have already informed Sevilla that they won't be taking up their option, prior to us sorting a deal with them.}

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Don't mean to be negative but why is'nt Sevilla interested in keeping him? If he's a young good talent seems kind of weird letting him go doesn't it?

But hey, we got Coutinho from Inter cut price.

Norwegian Blob

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Sevilla are in big financial problems and they need money by selling players

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Looks very talented but personally not sure that he would enjoy the more physical aspect of the EPL. A lot of players look good in the Segunda, it is no where near as competitive as the EPL.

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They have untill the end of today to take up the option if not lfc will find out tomorro if they're bid was good enough to start negotiating with alberto

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13 Jun 2013 12:03:38
Eds, Regarding mignolet I have checked the search function and can't see any updates other then he's been discussed.

Is it true we've actually put a 7M bid in for him but Sunderland are holding out for 10M? Cheers! {Ed001's Note - no bid has been received by Sunderland, yet.}

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Hi ed's. I like you have been told that no "BID" has yet to be placed, however the interest is there and initial talks have taken place. I'm also told that despite Sunderland once having interest in Jay Spearing, that he is unlikely to feature in any player + cash deal

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This was in a paper the other day, the story explained that Liverpool think £7 million would do it but Sunderland would want as close to £10 million as they can get, which the same story speculated that a bid of around £8 million should see him become a Liverpool player.

I find Pepe's interview the other day odd, he explained it was pure speculation about Barcelona and just gossip. Not saying that he isn't going, or wouldn't love a dream return to Barcelona, who wouldn't! I don't think he owe's us one day more than he wants to give, in a sense that he's given a huge chunk of his career to Liverpool F. C and thus far has been loyal, despite the Arsenal, Barca, Malaga, even Manchester United paper links and agents hi jinx and now he might want to spend some regular time in Spain, as it's been so long.

I like Mingolet, he's made some crazy point blank blocks and some double and even triple saves and rebounded efforts away and looked very competent, I still think Begovic is superior to Mingolet but i'm not Rodgers, i'd be very sad to see Reina leave as he's been an ever present since we signed him and without doubt for me one of the very best keepers of the Premier League and who can forget his feat of winning the golden gloves three times consecutively and he's a top guy and big character according to all the players say so. Who's going to keep Jose Enrique in his place if not Reina? :)

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Hello Ed,
reckon if we manage to move on both Shelvey and Spearing we will make a move to bring in a Defensive midfielder?

I really feel we need one and either of Camacho (Malaga) or Capoue would be quality buys if we want a fairly cheap CDM.

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Ed can u see us buying mignolet even if reina stays this summer and maybe loan him back to sunderland or would we only get him if reina leaves thanks {Ed030's Note - Not if Reina stays I cant. }

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Sunderland might claim they have received no official bids but both clubs have been in discussion and Mignolets agent has confirmed his client is interested. The clubs are talking re: the fee but it might be July before the deal is concluded

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Do you see him signing as I stil think Reina will decide to rejoin Barcelona as long as the price is right, i'd say 10M for Reina and 8. 5M for Mignolet is about right. Also have we put an improved bid in for Ilori?

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Only if Reina goes

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13 Jun 2013 11:02:17
Hi Eds, It's known that downing would be available for a fee of possibly £6m+. Just wondering if there is any known interest in him? Surely Stoke or Fulham may take him? Any info would be appreciated.
Jacksr {Ed001's Note - Stoke were keen before Pulis was removed, not sure now, though it would be possible as they are keen on wide players. Though personally I expect Ince to be their target, certainly Hughes likes him a lot and he has every chance of convincing his dad it would be a good move! Fulham have not shown interest yet, they have been busy securing other targets. I don't know of anyone else is for him, nor anything regarding that price tag, which I don't believe has any truth in it.}

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Eds, is it true we get 20-25% of the transfer fee for Ince should he be sold? {Ed001's Note - no idea but I very much doubt it.}

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What kind of price tag would you be expected ed?
and also if he was to leave do you expect a direct replacement to be signed or maybe to change formation and focus on other areas?
Cheers ed. {Ed001's Note - no idea about price tag and I believe Aspas is coming in mainly to replace Downing.}

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Liverpool get 25% of the Ince sell on fee.

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I don't think Downing will go

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Hi Ed001, I appreciate your detailed response to the above.

You say you don't believe Jacksr's price of £6m+ has any truth in it. As I would have rated Downing at £7m myself, I am interested to know is it higher or lower you would be thinking?

I don't think anyone would pay much more and I'd be afraid that you could be referring to the club possibly cutting their losses and accepting £5m for him? He really hasn't done much since joining and all the fuss about his big improvement he still didn't create much he went out and busted a gut but why hadn't he been doing that all along. Is £7m wishful thinking?

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13 Jun 2013 10:35:42
Hi Eds & everyone else,
I heard a whisper that we are having a look at Blackburns Jordan Rhodes, apparently we had a look at him a few times last season & the general feeling was the club was impressed how he stepped up a league & scored goals in a poor side, they think he has what it takes to make it in the premier league & from what I hear are willing to meet his release clause which is supposed to be the same fee Blackburn paid for him if a top PL side comes in.

Now this info is from somebody who does youth scouting for NW clubs, not PL clubs but likes of Blackburn, Bury, Oldham ect, I don't know how true or false the info is or whether we have even looked at him but I must admit after the first thought of why are we looking at a Championship player his record is impressive & then also remembered our greatest ever goalscorer come from the lower leagues so why not.

I'd like to know what was the fee he signed for Blackburn for, just in case this clause does exist? {Ed001's Note - including add ons, it is up to nearly 9m now, but it was initially £7.5m + add ons for international appearances and goals.}

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Personally I think it would be a good move as Morgan & Ngoo ain't upto it and will most likely be sold on and Yesil is out injured, with Carroll set to seal his move and Suarez determined to move on we need options and Rhodes would give us goals and for £9M or so would be affordable.

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Personally, i'd snap him up. just because he isn't a european player or a player who has come through the acedamy at a top side doesn't mean he is not good enough. For me he is a top finisher, its his overall gameplay that may let him down. I rate him as a great finisher, up there with Fowler. Same for Gary Hooper. Give the lad a shot!

JME

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Id take a punt on him he's a natural goal scorer well worth a go.

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I would start off lower than 9m and see what happens

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13 Jun 2013 09:51:45
According to Spanish newspaper La Gazzetta dello Sport. Carlo Ancelotti, who is due to be named as Madrid boss shortly, is adamant that he wants to sign another centre forward to compete with Karim Benzema.
Suarez is their No. 1 target and he's expressed a desire to move to the Bernabeu. But Liverpool are playing hard-ball and say they won't sell their prized asset.

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Suarez could add bite to there attack. I don't see him going anywhere this summer myself. To much baggage for any high profile club. His latest media outbursts are another nail in his own coffin. He has yet to manage a whole season without a lengthy ban. Hence rm preference for nice polite bale.

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I'm sure that's an ITALIAN paper yano?!

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Good for them - keep him for a season - he will want to play and play well to maintain his Uraguan form - and even if he doesn't play- his price will rocket after the World Cup

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Bale is cheat! But he's British, so that's ok.

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I was thinking the exact same thing it's an Italian newspaper not saying that they don't want him but its not something new we've heard

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Gazzetta della Sport isn't even Spanish, its Italian. I smell BS

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He isn't the first choice for Madrid, he is about 3rd

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>55 million pounds and you can have Suarez.

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Bale or Suarez ain't cheats. Bending the rules

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Well it's good that we are getting a reputation for playing "hard ball. " If we're going to have to sell a top player, we might as well be like Porto.

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Yes bale is bending the rules but suarez is biting biting the rules

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Suraez is not on madrids wanted list atm gareth bale tops the list at this time. well ave to wait and see what plays out if they fail to land bale then expect the interest in suraez to liven up from madrid

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Anyone who believes Real do not have Suarez at the top of their want list must be the same people who think that Real haven't noticed what Barca and Bayern have done this offseason

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About time Liverpool play hard ball transfer pushovers for far to long

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13 Jun 2013 01:11:29
Eds do you think Michu is a good player or just came with a hype and then went with the wind? Would he be an realistic replacement when suarez leaves? ( in addition to Mickey )
Esso {Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any interest shown by Liverpool.}

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I don't think michu is the type of player we need IMO I think Sturridge is similar but with more pace I think the benteke type player is what Liverpool need big strong lump of a player who Is very mobile at the same time. I would like to see this mkhtyrian come though as since gerrard has got older we haven't had that midfielder to arrive late in the box for 2-3 seasons now I think that is what we need IMO
Davylivercabs

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Garbage that Michu, he will be at swansea come next season, fed up of seeing posts about him on here Liverpool havnt even been linked with him

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No way are we interested in Michu. the phrase 'One swallow does not make a summer' comes to mind. Or, put another way: one season wonder. I don't get the obsession with him, or Lamela.

And I don't think we're desperate for a midfielder who arrives late in the box. Henderson showed he can, Joe Allen may also be capable if his form returns. I'd like to think/hope that Aspas and Mkhitaryan are more to do with replacing Downing on the right of midfield and attack than they are upgrading Henderson or replacing Suarez.

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Who is mickey? {Ed030's Note - Mkhitaryan mate.

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13 Jun 2013 01:05:03
Ed would you he suprised to see us to bid for. cabaye if the mancs dont? {Ed002's Note - Regardless, I am not aware of any interest shown by Liverpool.}

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If Cabaye decides to leave his top choice is Monaco as they are closely monitoring him and want him.

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Monaco are welcome to him. Sooner he is out of the Premiership the safer our players will be. He is either a thug or a poorly timed tackler.

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13 Jun 2013 00:24:37
Eds is mignolet rumours true he supposedly should sign next week?
Hope not really would rather keep pepe or buy begovic
Imo mignolet is dodgy and makes too many mistakes thanks

Basy {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

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He is still young and very good I think. Not saying we should get rid of reina but I do think he would be an excellent keeper in years to come
Gareth

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Mignolet was 46th in the Bloomberg Top 50 european goalkeepers. Christian Abbiati of AC Milan was the only goalkeeper to come in ahead of him at 28th. Mignolet going by the stats would be an exceptional goalkeeper. Both now and in the future. Plus the belgian market is rich right now. So Liverpool would be wise to invest in talents such as Alderweireld or Mignolet. Both would be relatively small fees. Both with huge potential and therefore considerably profitable sell on prices. Mignolet would be a great choice. Having said all that I don't think there is much to choose between Begovic or Mignolet or Krul for that matter.

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13 Jun 2013 01:32:08
Admits rumours linking Jose Enrique out of the club I seen him out in a club called Mya In Valencia where I live and he said that he definitely will not be leaving the club and that he was looking forward to the new season.

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He would be! But, no top teams are showing interest, witch means he must not be as good as we think, the only team right now is Aston villa, they have made an enquiry a couple weeks back. But I'd much rather see him on our right wing than downing!

BC

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13 Jun 2013 06:28:54
Liverpool to sell Daniel agger to Barcelona
Players in
Kyriakos Papadopoulos
Henrikh Mkhitaryan
And possibly lukaku
And rumours are linked with if Suarez goes sneijder a possible transfer aswell

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I had to work out what you meant then! I think you meant amidst!

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NE I heard that Barcelona are struggling to raise funds plus why would Daniel Agger leave after showing his commitment to the club it makes no sense

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Agger is off to Barcelona

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Now these are the type rumours that I love! It was this sort of tattle that first piqued my interest in this site! Could be true. could be utter tosh but at least it's a rumour and not another freakin dullard question!
In Buck we trust.

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13 Jun 2013 01:06:55
What is the current situation with Dries Mertens? I think he would be a great addition to the squad if possible, thanks

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Perfect player to bring in alongside Mkhitaryan to replace Suarez when he finally leaves he has a lot to offer us

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Like most silly rumours on this page! Its not going to happen!

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12 Jun 2013 23:38:15
Iago Aspas nearly complete. And for what I know coming from the club is that Kyriakos Papadopoulos is getting closer and once the Carroll debacle is finalised it is clear for Liverpool to make a strong bid for Henrikh Mkhitaryan!

With other sales and with hope of Suarez staying. Liverpool could certainly well challenge for a top for spot!

Jimmy. Mc

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This sounds more like wishful thinking than real information.

And, as good a player as Suarez is, I'd much rather have players who want to be at the club rather than bitey ones who don't.

I hope we sell him as early as possible, get a really good deal, and invest wisely.

DK

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Hope this is true so bad! But it won't happen mate :- (

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I have heard the same things. let's hope we can fend off interest in Suarez or at least get a really good replacement and have a real push next season.

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Think Suarez is gone mate, if he thought he got harsh treatment before by the press its going to be unreal after the statements he keeps making. Real know this as well and the more he says the better it gets for them as suarez will start to affect the clubs image again and probably want rid. They probably think they can make an offer really late in the transfer window with Liverpool desperate by then to get rid thus forcing into accepting a lower offer. They will have all ready communicated to him via his agent and I would be surprised if Suarez ups his antics the longer it drags on. The last thing he will want is to start the season back in England now.

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Really excited about Henrikh Mkhitaryan! Just the kind of addition we need, real flair and very direct, in the same vein as Coutinho. Defenses are going to have a hard time dealing with him

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I think the last interview given by Suarez was more optimistic. He likes the Club, the fans and his team mates. I don't think he is greedy either. He is right about the press. A biting incident with the Lions last week hardly got a mention! The FA certainly don't like him. He is right about the Terry affair - far worse but less punishment. As for Real Madrid - again, a club which will always be in the CL and invest in the worlds best talent - unlike us for the foreseeable future. If he goes, it must be for 50 million plus. But even then, he won't be replaced.

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Suarez is contracted to Liverpool, we will not sell at a knock down price, thing with Suarez is that he doesn't know how to give less than 100% once he's out on the pitch.
So if we don't get the price or we don't wish to sell? He won't sulk and will help us to top4 and increased revenue, then we might sell? When it suits LFC and not Luis Suarez.

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13 Jun 2013 09:04:45
bad news if true we need shot off suarez as soon as possible. I rate him but I don't like him I never have. it is very hard to like a man that takes our loved club through hell and back. constant diving is bad enough. what he is doing is woefull he is forcing a move through after all the fans and club has stuck by him. not only that his bringing his price down by keep asking madrid to come in for him. then complains that his been given harsh treatment. I don't think he has he has brought it on himself. everyone claimed torres was a judas. no the real judas is this guy.

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I think we should start playing hard ball. Arsenal and Spurs did not make it easy for Cesc and Modric, we should do the same. Suarez has just got a new contract and we must not let him go for anything less than 50m -as he is fitter and better than Torres.

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I really no longer care if Suarez stays or goes. If he goes £40 million+ bring in 2-3 good standard players, if he stays we keep a genius.

If Suarez goes I really want to see another 2 central defenders. I expect Skrtel and Coates both to leave. could do with an experience 23+year old and a young buck to push kolo, agger to compete for places.
(Don't think wisdom cuts it and Kelly already seems injury prone)

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Il be glad to see back if Suarez to be honest he did same thing at Ajax when he came to Liverpool. uses clubs to get to what he thinks is bigger clubs sorry goofy but u already play for 1 of the top 5 clubs in the world if he wants to leave let him wel find another superstar who loves this club like us fans YNWAj

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I agree with the above posts on playing hardball like Cesc & Modric and Kidmillions saying Suarez is under contract so we're in a good position.

We've bent over backwards for him - if we don't get at least £50m then screw him & make him stay. Let it suit the club not Suarez's terms. Plenty left on his contract, world cup next year and his general attitude anyway I can't but see him giving his all in matches.

I think with the current likely sales plus the estimated £20m we wouldn't need to sell him to purchase H Mikey & Papadopolous.

I also wouldn't buy 2 more centre backs. Coates was 4th choice last season and barely played and no Europa League this season. Kelly & Wisdom & Sama for 4th choice or else is there any point in having these players come through the academy. Buy someone class like Papadopolous and don't waste money on a 4th choice centre back.

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Yeah, I can read the Echo too.

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