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08 Apr 2024 15:56:02
The match yesterday was the same as the quarter final, should ave been out of sight by half time Poor finishing cost us. Quansha big mistake, but think what he has done for us this season. One mistake does not a bad player make. We are joint top, plenty of points to play for, just believe.

08 Apr 2024 16:48:14
howmuch1, I would never blame a kid for costing us a game. Frankly had the senior players and our fowards esp. done their jobs then, it should never have gotten to that to begin with.

I'd sooner blame them than blame Quansah who btw after his mistake, went back to being brilliant as he was before it. The title race is by NO means over and all 3 teams kept their chances of victory intact for another week. One to Atalanta.

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08 Apr 2024 18:35:15
I am loathe to apportion blame to any individuals for yesterdays result, but my son asked if Alison would have stopped any of those two goals yesterday, I told him that given where the keeper was for the first goal no one could have saved it. Maybe Ali would have been further to his left and saved the second one.
What does everybody think?

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08 Apr 2024 19:52:43
Langland, Kellerher was outside of the box as he is supposed to be when in possesion. Quansah gave the ball away, Bruno hit it first time and had Kellerher (who dived for it with his hands up) touched and actually saved it, he would have been sent off and we would have had Adrian in goal for the next 3 games at least.

Had Ali been there, I don't think he saves it even tho, he would have had to head the ball if he were to be outside the box like Kellerher was. Just my take.

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08 Apr 2024 20:25:41
Kelleher was positioned to give Quansah the option of a pass back to him. It is what it is and very little point in apportioning blame. Their player took the chance well. Sometimes sh#t happens šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø.

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08 Apr 2024 21:43:34
Will be a good learning curve for Quansah. He gave a few risky passes away early when there was no need.

Lads been brilliant this season and will be a better player for it.

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08 Apr 2024 12:15:47
I am going to remain positive in this run in, I always prefer us chasing then being out in front. The pressure is off a little and hopefully that will reflect in how they play. We all know we should of won that in the first half but just werenā€™t clinical enough, with Ali Jota and Trent all due back soon I think that is a massive boost in itself.

As for who we are chasing, Arsenal have by far the toughest run in, and play a spurs team who would like nothing more then to spoil the party. Then there are city, where on paper itā€™s only spurs who should cause them problems.

For me, if we win our last 7 itā€™s ours but if we donā€™t and lose it to Arsenal on GD, we only have ourselves to blame!

08 Apr 2024 12:39:23
I only see City winning. They have by far the easiest fixtures and the experience of winning titles. I reckon Arsenal and Liverpool will drop points, whereas I see City winning their remaining 7 matches.

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08 Apr 2024 12:42:17
Arsenal may well have the toughest run-in, but as of this moment they are the form team and the best-coached team in the league. Klopp is a better manager than Arteta, but Arsenal are organized, structured and clinical, everything we are not. We are reliant on individual quality and determination to win games, while Arsenal are systematically taking opponents apart. I thought they looked every bit as good as City in the Etihad game, the only thing they lack is the sheer quality of the three or four elite players from City and Liverpool.

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08 Apr 2024 12:43:42
Spot on, WYred. Arsenal's difficult run starts now with the PL/ CL games coming up. I have seen a lot of their fans saying they want to do the PL/ CL double. Well guess what, fellas? HERE'S YOUR CHANCE.

If they get through it then, fair play to them and they win the title. But keep in mind that while we play Palace, Fulham, Everton and WH, Spurs play Chelsea, Wolves, Villa and Spurs (not in any order) . And if you add CL quarters and semis to the above then, that's what awaits them.

For us, we got diff. issues. We need to up it massively and fing upper gears to go esp. up front REAL quick and with our players coming back like Ali, Trent and Jota esp., that will only help us here. We shall see what happens. On to Atalanta.

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08 Apr 2024 12:44:03
It's a busy Monday at work, but I still feel so deflated by that game yesterday. Snatched a draw from a deserved win even though we were by far, the better team. And that's twice against this same team. But that's football.

I'm still positive. We will win.

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08 Apr 2024 12:47:34
I mentioned yesterday on the discussion page, I think whichever team loses a match will be out the race. The standard is currently that high. I think the draw yesterday was our one mistake we we could make, we have to win the remaining games if we are to win the title I feel.
I think arsenal have a draw left in them but I see city winning every match now. Arsenal and City have been swatting teams aside with ease the last few weeks, even the expected banana skins. Fair play to arsenal, everyone wrote them off saying they wouldn't last pass Christmas but here we are.

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08 Apr 2024 13:39:40
Lowe, they are the form team. But 1 thing I meant to add is, that one question mark that remains over Arsenal is if they lose any of rice, Saliba or Gabriel to injury over the coming weeks. I donā€™t know whether they have the depth to cover if one got injured. Especially with the pressure and tough run in they have.

We are as every bit as good as city or Arsenal, we have to just up our conversion rate. Iā€™d be far more worried if we werenā€™t making the chances.

Kelleher has done wonders in Aliā€™s absence but I think having him back shores us up at the back and adding another attacker in Jota means we have at least one difference maker off the bench. Plus trent adds options if we have to chase games. Heā€™ll no doubt start but being able to add him in midfield if the situation requires could be huge.

Plenty of twists to come and luckily football isnā€™t played on paper.

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08 Apr 2024 14:00:55
WYred - Games are running out and Arsenal keep winning them. I might suggest it is us who are more likely to suffer further injuries than Arsenal. We canā€™t even keep our centre-backs and goalkeeper fit.

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08 Apr 2024 14:52:34
We'll win the 7 games and win the league. We mitent have Citys experience in terms of WINNING leagues but we have experience in having to win EVERY week, week after week, we've just been unlucky to be up against such a good team. Arsenal have neither are about to start a manic set of fixtures which will require their best players in every game. let's see how they cope with that. All this while we seem to be getting back to full strength at just the right time.

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08 Apr 2024 15:32:34
Doesnā€™t matter how much experience we have if you canā€™t put away the chances created.

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08 Apr 2024 15:34:50
Lowel, I have a diff. take re: Arsenal. So all things are going for them since the turn of the year and hats off to them. However, they have NOT had to deal with the level and types of adversity (injuries galore, bad ref decisions and poor finishing) that we have had to deal with. They're yet to have things not go their way in-game. Like it would be interesting to see how they would have recovered if they were in our position last night. We know that the last time this happened vs WH at home when things did not go their way, they lost.

There is a huge possibility with that brutal schedule they have, for things to go wrong in-game or for some injury adversity to happen in-game and that will be a test for them. Lik I have said, let us see what happens with that brutal schedule they have cos some adversity is coming their way, IMO.

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08 Apr 2024 18:32:56
No more points dropped and its get done, arsenal will drop points.

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08 Apr 2024 18:45:01
I just hope that we don't lose the title on goal difference, cus if we do I can see us suing PGMOL for dis allowing Diaz goal at Tottenham.

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08 Apr 2024 19:29:43
Iā€™d love us to sue PGMOL into bankruptcy and make Coward Webb personally liable too.

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08 Apr 2024 23:09:19
We will drop more points and our form away is not great. Arsenal or city. I would say city but their injuries is piling up and hence give the edge to arsenal. We will finish 3rd imo.

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09 Apr 2024 01:25:05
I believe we will win the title on the last day of the season, it's already been amazing effort by all involved so why not with all of our help try to get them over the line.

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08 Apr 2024 09:47:26
Klopp should have the players in this morning and practice their finishing the last several games we could of scored around 20 goals we could of had seven in Sundays game against the mancs in the first half. By the way not a fan of anthony taylor but thought he had a great game yesterday.

08 Apr 2024 09:58:00
I'm sure he's never thought of 'finishing' practice. Geez.

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08 Apr 2024 10:18:18
Burkeboy, nice try. Klopp doesn't focus on finishing. His training session is all about running, he like players who run a lot.

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08 Apr 2024 10:32:10
For crying out loud, put a sock on it, Lee. As if you know or have the slightest idea what any LFC training session is like or about.

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08 Apr 2024 10:36:01
Is that why literally every week there are training videos of the boys doing finishing drillsā€¦.

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08 Apr 2024 10:39:51
On a separate note if Jota and Trent ( possibly Ali) are due back this week then we have Atalanta coming up where they can get minutes.

Maybe its a chance to give one or 2 of Salah, Nunez or Diaz a break on Thu night as they have played a lot of football recently.

No doubts the amount of chances they have mossed recently will be a factor on their minds and when it comes to chances they are consciously thinking about it rather than sub consciously.

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08 Apr 2024 11:12:42
@Faith, don't bother. You are trying to make sense out of abject trolling. Trust me, you will be dumber for it if you try to engage rationally.

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08 Apr 2024 13:21:48
Canā€™t we just get Ian Rush in on an emergency loan?

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08 Apr 2024 13:22:08
The finishing problem is nothing new. Has been an issue during Klopp's tenure. We compete because our chance creation numbers are outrageously high, offsetting the profligacy.

What makes our forwards so intense and threatening probably also works against their calmness in front of goal or in the final ball. I don't think this problem is unique to our club by the way. Football decided to make wingers into forwards and attacking midfielders into pressing machines.

I doubt we'll fix it in the next 6 weeks. We'll just have to keep producing the chances and hope we do enough in the remaining games.

Having Jota back, even if off the bench will help. And Trent's assists and switches are being missed. Hopefully Mo's struggles are related to his fasting rather than a bigger issue.

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08 Apr 2024 14:09:18
Trent and Jota coming back will be massive. That being said, I came across a worrying stat this afternoon that we only have 1 win against the big 6 all season. And that win was against Chelsea, who let be honest are not even a top 6 side at present. And in a number of those matches we had everyone fit so canā€™t even use the excuse of, if this player comes back or if we had that player available it would have been a different outcome.

I still have faith we can win both competitions still up for grabs. Yes tall order, but not impossible. I also think a change of formation, system, tactics, players coming in and some going out this summer is actually a good thing. But, letā€™s deal with the present in hopefully getting over the finishing line, both in the league and Europa. Amorim announced as our new manager and Klopp winning the treble would be a perfect close to one chapter and beginning of another.

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08 Apr 2024 14:48:10
Alonso its correct what you have said but the win was against Villa and not Chelsea mate of the current top 6.

From the current top 6 we have the lowest points gained from matches amongst ourselves.

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08 Apr 2024 15:36:26
Formerly_FlyPelicanFly, your post makes WAY too much sense, bro. I agree with every word. Bravo, sir.

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08 Apr 2024 15:38:07
Hey Burkeyboy,
I am sure Klopp thinks of shooting practice, but after that yesterday, then it is obviously not good enough practice they are getting. This has cost us the champions league against Madrid. We had so many chances and we were caught out. Madrid scored their goal. A bit like yesterday, only we were able to get a draw after not taking chances.

One last thing Burkey, practice makes perfect obvious that you have never kicked a ball lad .

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08 Apr 2024 16:59:17
@Iwillbered, stop projecting and miss me with the ITK rubbish. So you think cos we are struggling suddenly must mean that Klopp and the guys are not doing any finishing sessions? Is that how you function in life? Every club at near every level practise finishing drills and movements so stop acting like you are some ITK on the matter. Historically under Klopp, we have NOT been taking anywhere near enuff of our chances in relation to the amount of chances we actually create and this has been the case since Klopp walked in the door, if you have actually been paying attention thru out Klopp's years.

I hear people saying Mane or Bobbie would have scored, forgetting that they were guilty of squandering loads and loads of chances themselves esp. Mane and Salah. I guess nostalgia does funny things to people.

The issue we have here is that there is poor decision-making, shot selecttion and a lack of composure in our whole attack at the minute that even more practice may not even fix BUT we have to keep working hard on it in training thru well, MORE shooting and finishing sessions. Have a day of and enjoy the sunshine, mate.

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07 Apr 2024 23:32:31
So frustrating! We should've and could've won today, we weren't up for it enough, I don't understand it at all personally. First half we could've been 4-5 nil up, wasted chances and could cost us dearly.

BUT it's far from over, Arsenal have a few hard fixtures, I'd just of liked it more for us not having to rely on others dropping points but I suppose it was always going to be the case, if we'd of won today I'd of found it difficult believing we'd of gone on to win every single game left.

I'll say it now though, I don't think City will drop points. I believe we'll drop more and so will Arsenal. This concerns me because I don't want them to win it lol I'd much rather see Arsenal win it if we can't.

08 Apr 2024 01:45:17
Agreed Salah, it was a frustrating game to watch. We were all over them in the first half and in the beginning of the second. They then scored a goal out of nowhere and suddenly, are right back in the game. Before we knew it, we were trailing behind them and had to play catch-up despite our dominance. It could have been much worse but a draw isn't the worst result and I believe we can still push on for the title.

It is concerning though that our finishing is so off lately. We are dominating games and creating chances but are just not able to finish teams off. I'm not sure how we can improve things though, but I hope Klopp and the team sort it out soon.

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08 Apr 2024 02:37:24
I agree with everything you said Salah mate. I donā€™t know whatā€™s happened to our finishing recently. Especially when you look back at the turn of the year when we were winning and scoring 3 or 4 goals almost every week. In fact, I just had a look at our fixtures and from the 1st of January when we beat Newcastle up until 21st of February, we played 11 games in total. Out of those 11 games we scored 5 goals in 1 of those games. 4 goals in 5 of those games. And 3 goals in 1 of those games. Thatā€™s over half of those 11 games with a minimum of 3 goals.

The only other months besides January and February this season that saw us scoring quite a few goals was September. We played 6 games that month and we scored 3 goals in all those fixture bar the one right at the end of month, which was the 2-1 loss against Spurs (less said about the match the better) .

City will win their remaining matches like you said. Itā€™s now down to Arsenal slipping up. Frustrating because it was in our hands but they have the toughest run in out of 3 at the top of the table. There are 4 fixtures where if itā€™s going to happen, it will have to be there. Thatā€™s Wolves away. Wolves are a Jekyll and Hyde side. They will ever get pummelled by Arsenal or they might nick a result. Chelsea at home is literally a copy and paste of the Wolves explanation. Spurs away is their hardest game in their run in. And lastly United away. They struggle against United at Old Trafford. Hoping one of them happens so we can bring the league home this year. Of course for us fans but to give Klopp the send off the man deserves.

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08 Apr 2024 04:08:03
I'm still sticking with my prediction that City will drop more points and end up in 3rd.
And Arsenal won't go perfect the rest of the way either.
Still over to ourselves to collect as many points as possible, preferably all of them!

Salah - on a separate note. How do you quantify "we weren't up for it enough"? We created heaps of chances but didn't score so are you saying that the lack of scoring is why you're saying we weren't up for it?

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08 Apr 2024 05:44:59
Ed1, why do you think for the past few matches we are struggling to close out games? That's two time against UTD where we should have win comfortably, but instead we lose and draw those two matches. Also our records against the big 6 sides this season are really poor.

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{Ed001's Note - it has always been a problem under Klopp, probably because of the speed we attack at leaves players rushing things.}

08 Apr 2024 05:57:17
Just wanted to add that Arsenal has a huge advantage in the run in and that is their injury list. I can't recall a single first 11 player, except for maybe Timber, who has been out for an extended period. They are basically able to name the same starting 11 each game and this, I feel, has resulted in them being extremely consistent. It does remind me of the seasons we won the champions league and PL title and had very few players out injured and were thus able to keep churning out results.

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08 Apr 2024 06:38:05
To say we werenā€™t up for it enough is a bit of a stretch to say the least. We absolutely battered United and only for a brain fart we gave them a glimmer of hope.
We lacked composure in certain moments especially in their box but I thought there was absolutely nothing wrong with the attitude of the players.

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08 Apr 2024 06:58:39
Biggest worry is we learned nothing from the other week.

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08 Apr 2024 07:24:51
I think to say we weren't up for it is way wrong, I thought we v sharp and aggressive when needed especially in 1st half. fa cup game yes i thought we slack and utd deserved the win whereas utd got lucky yesterday imo.
I think our problem is, and it was discussed on here Saturday on some of pages, that we just have 2 many not playing up to there potential. Not that they playing awful it just 2 many not playing well enough to close out a league. I would say only vvd, mac and kelleher playing to there full potential over last few weeks.

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08 Apr 2024 07:40:48
The league is lost for me and I think weā€™ll finish third. Too many games were wasteful in front of goal and make games like Brighton harder than they need to be. The midfield arenā€™t clinical enough either, particularly Szoboszlai who looks redundant at points.

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08 Apr 2024 07:44:11
Excellent observation Ed001, I do feel Bobby was cool in the box more often than not. Sure Salah has always been like that but still had a good conversion rate, Mane was fairly cool too.

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08 Apr 2024 07:57:08
Oh the negativity, win our remaining 7 and City are irrelevant and its not even a given that Arsenal would have to drop a single point for us to clinch the title. Touchwood we'll be more or less full strength injury wise within the next week or so and we've a good set of fixtures to attack. Trust me City and Arsenal fans aren't half as negative as you lot at the moment, have a bit of faith in the lads. no one gave them a chance in August, have had horrendous injuries and decisions to deal with and are JOINT TOP so im going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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08 Apr 2024 08:12:14
Ron maybe its just as simple as our main goalscorer for 7 years having a bad patch after injury and probably the best finisher in the club out injured. If Jota plays in that game yesterday we win. Huge players like trent and diogo to help towards goalscoring returning imminently.

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08 Apr 2024 08:30:02
Edā€™s comment is intriguing - can think of numerous games, finals etc where have dominated and just not taken any chancels. Against real think courtious got a load of praise for what was poor finishing.

May be speed of play or how quick we play - but just seem to lack that calm composure. The counter after they scored, Nunez should be able to finish or even easier later off for Szo, but completely fluffed it. Curious if is an instinctual or innate ability or can be coached, as see in combat sports (famously McGregor vs Aldi) where just seem as relaxed or calm as someone knitting their 1000th sweater.

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08 Apr 2024 09:05:05
Was it really the speed of the ball which made szob and Mo miss them chances yesterday? we always had erratic finishers like Firmino, mane nd Gini but usually we could rely on Salah, at the moment he's struggling.

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08 Apr 2024 09:12:06
So many great points made on this thread and I agree with a large mejority of them. To say we were not up for it is just ridiculous. Our approach to the game was NOT the problem, IMO. It was that it seems as Ed01 said, the sped we play at could be a problem in the final third and Darwin and Diaz are guilty of this specifically. Jota on the other hand, is not.

Also and may be others can chime in, there seems to be a case of buck-passing when on the counter cos the amount of times I've seen the forwards do the "Not me so you have it" or playing the unecessary extra pass instead of taking responsibility and just whacking it is concernining. Diaz had a chance to blast it towards the goal andd then inexplicably passed it to Darwin who looked shocked and the attack died. Lack of confidence? We got to do better here, for sure.

All this being said, all hope is definitely not lost. Like @Salah and JNkunku have said, I think City will win all their games BUT if we win all of ours then they win nada. Arsenal have a worse schedule than we do so their chances to drop points are there. Us? We have NO margin for error now (and we did this to ourselves) so we got to win all our games. To do this, we MUST improve massively in the final third and cut out the Quansah-like mistakes.

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08 Apr 2024 09:13:05
If we lose on GD to Arsenal, at least it will not feel as bad as the last time it happened! That was the time I swore I would never get upset by a football match again

Then Hillsborough happened.

Then Istanbul happened.

There will always be highs, there will always be lows. Yesterday was a low, more because we hadnā€™t learned from our recent mistakes at OT than anything but in the cold light of day there could well be many more highs before the end of the season.

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08 Apr 2024 10:31:16
I'd imagine its hard to judge the speed of a game of football when watching it on a buffering stream Oli.

But as predicted you will tell us.

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08 Apr 2024 10:33:19
For the first 20 minutes of the game the team were not pressing high and the front three were waiting until the ball made it forward to almost half way line before pressing, which I felt was smart since United play on the counter and all the games were they have done badly is against teams sitting deeper and waiting for them to come forward.

It was working well for us

Then for whatever reason we slowly started pressing higher and in the second half it was like klopps first season again and that's when the game got crazy. We were far too impatient, sitting deeper and not pressing was the way to go as united struggle to create and score with the ball in possession and their midfield gives up possession a lot. But for some reason we decided to play to their strengths, which was especially silly since that's exactly how we lost a week earlier.

We needed patience and professionalism and instead we slowly got sucked into a tennis match against a team which can only score in tennis matches.

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08 Apr 2024 10:12:36
Interesting opinion, Ed, regards to your opinion that our speed of attack is partly to blame for our finishing. I don't necessarily agree with it, but interesting view point.

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08 Apr 2024 11:54:43
the game was i agree frustrating, but there are a lot of people over reacting we are in no different position than when Citeh played the Gooners. They have now got champions league to play where they have to use their best players where as we can hopefully rest anyone that needs to and get some minutes back in legs for others. With 7 games to go many things can and will happen but we would have taken this at the beginning of the season, we are having a great season so far that could turn out to be an awesome one so let's get behind the boys and see where the ride takes us YNWA.

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08 Apr 2024 12:14:59
We create so many chances because of the pace of our play. We miss so many chances for the exact same reason.

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08 Apr 2024 12:16:22
We play Europa on the Thursday which is far worse then a Tuesday night game?!
Not sure we can be resting players.

Agree1

08 Apr 2024 12:59:22
We can afford to rest them more than city nd Arsenal playing two European beasts and then hopefully each other.

Agree1

08 Apr 2024 18:13:37
Man City play a quick ball in and around the box, thatā€™s the way to break stubborn defences down, but they are cool in front of goal.

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08 Apr 2024 18:40:54
Arsenal have atleast 3 tough games coming, Man U Chelsea and Tottenham. They will drop points.
City probably win all there remaining games unless spurs turn up.
We can still do this and maybe the United result will spur us on. Still believe lads, the team needs its fans more than ever now.

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08 Apr 2024 23:22:17
StEtienneAmen - I canā€™t believe youā€™ve done that to me šŸ˜«

My absolute worst memory of a football result ever.
Iā€™ll never get over that game, it will haunt me to my grave.

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07 Apr 2024 22:33:07
I know all hands will slag me off, but Mo is losing his legs. He is well off the pace of the game i know he scored a pen but other players could have taken it I love mo but father time catching up with him time to cash in i think onwards and up wards reds YNWA.

07 Apr 2024 23:37:33
I'm not disagreeing - he looks a yard off the pace at the moment. Could be age, could be any other reason too.

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07 Apr 2024 23:38:53
Fair assessment Iwillbered. You have given an opinion without disrespecting the guy, which is fine. Salah is a legend and has been exceptional for us but Iā€™m with you on this. Every player will decline at some stage of their career. Still a good player but the facts are he is not the same player he was some years back, which again is understandable. We saw the early signs of this a few years back. Now he has visibly lost some pace it has had an impact on the way he plays. On top of that it appears his link up play, in particular his passing level has dropped. And although he will still score he is not taking a lot of chances he used to finish with ease. Saudi Arabia are apparently looking to make a bid in the region of Ā£150 million this summer. If true, there is no way Edwards is rejecting that. Some might not like to hear that but he is accepting that bid faster than you can blink. Great player and love the guy to bits, so I would never think of insulting him. But all good things come to an end, and this summer might be his.

If Amorim is coming then I see him bringing in an out and out striker. We create loads of chances so that clearly ainā€™t our problem. Itā€™s finishing those chances which is killing us and might cost us the title. I also see him bringing in two centre backs and a left back. Three of the four positions I feel we need currently play for him. Viktor Gyƶkeres, Inacio and Diamonde. All three of them have release clauses which means if met in full, we donā€™t have to negotiate with Sporting. But importantly all of them understand the 3-4-3 system Amorim deploys. As for the left back I really like the look of Rayan AĆÆt-Nouri.

Now, I donā€™t want Diaz sold but too many things pointing to him leaving. Media have been talking about a possible summer exit for a while now. Also Ed2 has said he could leave, not to mention his fatherā€™s interview (do a search on youtube) about his son wanting to play for a top European side, ideally a Spanish team. So I would have NĆŗƱez in the left inside forward position and Gyƶkeres who will finish chances when given as the centre striker and can rotate with Jota. Szobo rotating with Elliott can play as right inside forward with freedom and creativity which he will thrive in. Trent and Bradley will cover our right back position. AĆÆt-Nouri and Robbo will cover the other flank. Wing backs in Amorim system keep wide and push up to form a front 5 with the 3 forwards in attacking play. Two man midfield at the base sees one as the deep lying play maker who joins in the attacks but can also create from deep when needs be. Mac Allister is tailor made for this role. He can rotate with Jones. The other two man midfielder is the DM. Bajcetic and Endo can rotate. That team would see us challenging for all major honours.

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07 Apr 2024 23:55:55
I'm just as worried about his finishing as I am his pace. Stats only tell part of a story, but his XG the past few weeks must be huge.

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08 Apr 2024 00:43:14
He lost them earlier this season. It was at the Fulham game I really noticed it.
Defenders were out-pacing him easily.

Agree2

08 Apr 2024 00:52:06
I think Mo is building match sharpness after injuries.

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08 Apr 2024 01:41:23
Salah has definitely lost pace, which is understandable given his age and injury concerns of late. And I do agree that while he is a legend at the club, his time with us may have sadly passed. I think now is a good time to sell him since he is at entering the last year of his contract.

Not sure who can replace him since there is no like for like replacement out there but I would be tempted to try Szobo at RW before dipping into the transfer market. I don't think we would buy and out-and-out goalscorer but a versatile forward seems to be who we are looking at. LCB is a priority in the summer though so we should get that sorted out first.

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08 Apr 2024 01:44:56
Good post Alonso.

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08 Apr 2024 03:32:15
You do know he is fasting so that will affect his performances? His sharpness will soon be back to lead the charge for the title.

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08 Apr 2024 07:14:48
I personally think this is nonsense. Once again I disagree with everything you say Iwillbered.

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08 Apr 2024 07:52:31
Ricky, I thought the same about his fasting.

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08 Apr 2024 09:28:05
Salah was always going to lose some pace cos you may not know this, Father Time is undefeated for a reason so him getting outrun by younger players at Fulham or at Stevenage is NOT breaking news to anyone who anything about life in general. No new ground has been broken here, people.

That being said, he is getting back to finess after being out for a while and like Ricky said, the guy is fasting so it can NOT be easy for him playing at his best with those two mitigating circumstances. This ain't rocket science.

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08 Apr 2024 09:29:53
All hands you have every right to disagree with me my friend i appreciate your opinion .
I would just like to point out one or two things one the premier league will find you out it is the most competive league in the world that is why ronaldo was so poor on his return to premier and why Messi did not play in the premier league . Secondly i am old enough to have seen over many years top player come to same position that Mo is finding himself in age in sport catches up with you mate. And as for ramadam i watched Arsenal the other night they have several players fasting did not affect their game mate . But as i said i respect your opinion allhands .

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08 Apr 2024 10:40:21
Time has been catching up to salah for a year or so. He was getting outpaced by defenders last season too so it's not injury or Ramadan.

One of two things needed to happen in summer, replacing Salah or moving him into a traditional CF position as a poacher. You can't play on a wing when your pace has gone so usually the player gets moved closer to goal.

I think this is another example of klopp being too loyal. Personally I would have sold for the 150m (assuming the deal could be done) and replaced him. I'm surprised klopp didn't move him closer to goal. Perhaps have Nunez play on the wing instead, pace is 100% needed on wings even as inside forwards to stretch defences.

If klopp has any blind spots it's with his loyalty to players, bad as it sounds he's too human and lacks the ruthlessness that fergie and pep have of moving players on when they don't benefit the team the same.

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08 Apr 2024 11:15:46
@iwillbered, please name the "several" Arsenal players that were fasting?

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08 Apr 2024 11:29:42
Actually Iwillbered, that was me.

Your first line was, "I know all hands will slag me off"

Naturally being the attention seeking child that I am, I created an account called All Hands to slag you off.

Agree1

08 Apr 2024 13:01:52
Salahs finished. till he scores a brace in his next game and goes on a goalscoring run! Seen it so many times over the last 7 years.

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08 Apr 2024 16:28:00
Thing is Jude every time Salah goes to afcon it takes him 2 months to get back to normal, unfortunately we don't have two months to spare him, especially given he came back injured and lacking match sharpness, by the time he finds his feet again it will likely be too late.

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08 Apr 2024 15:32:46
davy,
Nice one. Did you not watch the football last weekend and the weekend the games were stopped so certain players could have a drink because they were fasting? Sorry I ment to put Arsenal and Brighton players on fasting mate my mistake.

Also Mo will always score goals until he is 40 odd but for the position that Mo is playing for LFC he is struggling with his pace it kills me to say that maybe as someone stated move him into the middle maybe that may work but for how long?

I will hold up my hands if I am wrong and I hope i am wrong. It would be nothing better than seeing one of the best players ever to grace LFC.

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08 Apr 2024 16:31:07
Thing is Jude every time Salah goes to afcon it takes him 2 months to get back to normal, unfortunately we don't have two months to spare him, especially given he came back injured and lacking match sharpness, by the time he finds his feet again it will likely be too late.

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07 Apr 2024 19:29:04
I still. harbour idea of replacing Salah and Cody with Watkins and diaby.

07 Apr 2024 22:35:23
No thanks.

Agree5

08 Apr 2024 00:47:09
Please divest yourself of these ideas.

Agree3

08 Apr 2024 01:35:31
Good one mate.

Agree2

08 Apr 2024 01:48:02
Watkins is clinical. amount of chances we create he would have buried a lot of them, he is 2nd top scorer in the league for a reason and would thrive with us. He also puts a hard shift in.

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{Ed001's Note - he goes through long periods of being unable to hit the side of a barn mate. He is very hot and cold. Works hard and I do like him a lot, but he can be very wasteful too.}

08 Apr 2024 08:26:42
Draw a game and start replacing members of the squad.

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08 Apr 2024 09:38:14
@bhav_reds said "Watkins was clinical". Now I know you don't watch Villa for sure. You also said, "he puts a shift in". Oh and Darwin is a lazy donkey? Are you for real? Watkins is a good player BUT he is just as wasteful as Haaland and Darwin (even tho Darwin is the better player, IMO) BUT if you are at Villa and you are English, nobody will care if you go 10 games w/ o scoring. Darwin gets battered cos he passed rather than shot even IF a goal came as a result for him passing it.

Watkins can hit the post 3 times and he will get rave reviews for his overall play cos well, English tax is a REAL thing. Heaven forbid, Darwin does that. It would be news for a week, which it was vs Chelsea. Darwin has more goals and assists in all comps. than Watkins YET Watkins is more clinical. Like I said, take the day off, man.

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08 Apr 2024 16:36:54
That's true Oli but foreigner bias is also a real thing. Wijnaldum was no more talented than Henderson but yet everyone seems to remember Gini as some scintillating Zidane style footballer and remember hendo as just a hard working dude who did the basics well.

Watkins might go a few games without scoring but then mane did that, Salah is currently doing it - but Watkins is the highest scoring English player without being fed 20 chances per game like Salah is.

If you put prime Torres in this team or prime even prime Salah in this team we win 5-0 against United. It's how we can tell Salah is well past his best because he is missing chances that 3 years ago he would have buried. He's also getting outpaced by players who aren't even considered quick. The majority of salahs goals now are pens or box finishes, so we should play to his strengths and move him into the middle as a late Ronaldo style poacher.

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08 Apr 2024 17:05:45
Nevada, I agree, bro BUT the Manes, Salahs and now Darwin used to get/ now get battered for it in the media whereas the likes of Watkins are left untouched and this is more prevalent when you play for England. As for Hendo, he was the target ever since Fergie got bitter and angry cos Hendo had the guts to reject him and join King Kenny at Liverpool and cos he was such a sore, pathetic loseer about it, he attacked Hendo in his book in the most despicable of ways and it got stuck on him. The Fergie part is a fact.

Also, you got to realise that Hendo got the armband from Gerrard and the anti Hendo fans along with the por-Gerrard fans did NOT think Hendo deserved it hence, he was targeted as well. This is just what I have observed over the years so there you go, mate.

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07 Apr 2024 19:23:51
I think Arsenal will win title because of their defence. They are now closing down games and mostly keep a clean sheet.

With us we always allow opponents to score even sheffield did and we normally need 2 games minimum to win a match.

Arsenal can win 1 nil but they end up scoring more

Why we always have a bad pass, lapse of concentration is beyond me. we always allow opponents to feel they are in the game, and when are forwards mis fire as they are doing recently we loose points and matches.

Arsenal and Macs are more capable of a clean sheet then we are at the moment.

07 Apr 2024 22:06:26
Iā€™ll be honest Iā€™m desperate for us to win the league. More for Klopp than anything else. As a fan of course I want us to win the league but if we donā€™t Iā€™ll still be at games next season and the season after and after that and so on šŸ¤ž

Sadly this is klopps last dance with us and from the 3 teams competition all are outstanding and itā€™s pretty hard to separate the 3.

Currently out of the 3 we are looking the least clinical though despite possibly creating more.

We still have 2 shots at trophies this year so hopefully thatā€™s our bump in the road and city and arsenals are to come.

Agree5

07 Apr 2024 22:31:23
So are we giving up now?

Agree2

07 Apr 2024 22:32:56
Yep. Can't remember the last time we kept a clean sheet.

Agree5

07 Apr 2024 22:39:13
Arsenal have been lucky with injuries this season. Their 2 main defenders, who are tremendous, have been fit all season with rice and other key players mainstays.

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07 Apr 2024 22:40:52
we have the same clean sheets as City.

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07 Apr 2024 23:59:51
Exactly, @Faith BUT it seems people are starting to throw in the towel on this thread whereas Arsenal are top ONLY on GD, not even on points. So much chest when things are going great BUT as soon as some adversity appears, they fold their tents and go home. Sad.

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08 Apr 2024 03:24:46
It is disheartening for us to, for the third time this season, outplay yet fail to beat a pretty average United side. Our inability to kill off games, and to not convert draws into wins, has been a constant theme in previous title run ins, and looks like it will be critical again. It is not throwing in the towel, but being honest about what we are seeing. We are struggling to keep clean sheets, we are struggling to finish the glut of chances we create, we are not playing that well at what is a critical tine of the season. That is it. Can we still win the title? Yes. Will we? I wouldnā€™t bet on it.

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08 Apr 2024 06:52:41
The mentality monsters were wallflowers in the 2nd half yesterday. Profligate in the 1st half. Again.

I really thought the players would learn from the FA Cup defeat. The small blessing is we didnā€™t lose this one but as VVD said, it feels like a loss.

Ramadan excuses for another poor performance from Salah, even though he lost half a yard since much earlier in the season. What is Szoboszlaiā€™s excuse for passing when in a position to shoot and shooting when in a position to pass? Or Nunez ineffectiveness in front of goal against Utd, again. If we are relying on Jota up front, we are going to struggle.

One other thing why oh why does Robertson get into so many great scoring positions but has such a crap shot on him?

Itā€™s squeaky bum time and we need a pinch hitter. We cannot rely on Macca every week. The question is do we have one.

Agree4

08 Apr 2024 08:29:04
Whoā€™s giving up Oli?

Agree0

08 Apr 2024 09:41:05
JK clearly NOT you, based on your post, alright? So calm da heck down and don't get triggered. It cannot always be about you, bro. Have a coke and a smile.

Agree1

08 Apr 2024 09:44:19
@StEtienneAmen, I agree with majority of what you have said. The buck-passing in the final third among the forwards is killing me. It's like NOBODY wants to take any responsibility at the crucial moment.

Did you see where Diaz was free to blast it past Onana and then he inexplicably squared it to Darwin who looked shocked as he was too wide hence, in no position to score and had to cross it back? That took the cake for me. I mean, what are we doing in training? Why all this over-passing in the final third on the counter? It's doing my head in, man.

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08 Apr 2024 10:27:11
Haha Oli apologies for asking a question.

I hope you've not used all your internet data replying to me being so TRIGGERED.

You have 7 more free streams to go of your football tv show.

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08 Apr 2024 10:46:17
Agree oli that was driving me bananas yesterday. So many times people were passing in good shooting opportunities or trying to dribble more and delaying shooting.

Mac was pretty much the only player in the team who made the correct decision every time, everyone else seemed nervous. United were also more crafty as the game went on, they constantly cut off passing lanes to van dijk to stop him receiving the ball and leaving it with quansah, we can call it lucky all we like but the fact is they forced us into playing the game they wanted to play.

It was like Duran Vs sugar ray Leonard 1 - it should have been Duran Vs Leonard 2.

Agree0

08 Apr 2024 15:35:43
We never give up reds we keep going until it is impossible to win the league. Plenty more football to play, yet reds keep believing guys.

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