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16 Mar 2024 11:59:28
Ed1 mainly, came across a video of Riise talking about the golf club incident.
Baffling stuff - was the culture that bad in Liverpool during this time? How can an (aleged) thug like Bellamy be drunk, abusive, violent - 2 days before a big away match in Europe?!
Was it Benitez being just to weak to control the players?

{Ed001's Note - Bellamy just came from a world where that was normal, like Grealish etc, they don't learn professionalism and it affects their career. Rafa wasn't weak and got rid of Bellamy as soon as possible afterwards. Luckily younger players are getting a better education at academy level to avoid the drinking culture that is prevalent in Britain.}

16 Mar 2024 14:05:51
Didn’t Bellamy turn it around later in his career and become more professional? Think I read his agent took him to Africa to see how some people live and he realised he’d been a bit of a twat before after seeing them there?

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16 Mar 2024 14:26:58
I remember getting 8/ 1 odds on that game that if Bellamy scored he would celebrate by swinging an imaginary golf club. It came in obviously. I liked Bellamy when he played for us but couldn't stand him anywhere else. Very mouthy. The game where we played Chelsea in the league Cup just after Gary Speed died was his best game for us. He absolutely tore them to pieces.

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16 Mar 2024 15:39:38
Yeah Squiresy, I hadn't heard who took him and why, but when he was out there he realised how lucky he was to be born in the UK, much less be able to play football for a living. Gave a lot of money to charities and for building work in Africa in the 2nd half of his career. It's one of the reasons he didn't cause any trouble in his second spell here. Too bad he didn't do it when he was 19 or 20.

He's bankrupt now. Apparently a lot his 'friends' and 'advisors' took him for a ride financially.

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16 Mar 2024 15:49:32
Felt in his second stint with us he was way better
More mature, used his pace and experience well and always felt he added that bit of excitement to a rather flat team then whenever he played or came on. But injuries had him by then and he wasn’t always available or could last the full match.

But yes, the Chelsea game he turned it on. In part he said as a tribute to Speed and in part in anger for the lack of respect he felt the Chelsea fans were showing during the minute of silence.

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16 Mar 2024 17:20:26
@SR, the guy took Bellamy to Sierra Leone specifically and that is where everything changed for Bellamy, apparently. When he came back to us under Kenny, he was such a changed man, IMO.

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16 Mar 2024 21:12:52
I played against Bellamy as a 16 year old. He was a tw@t then too.

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17 Mar 2024 08:17:45
Bellers and his inner chimp.
A bit like Robbo with his knack for winding the opposition up, but revered by his own fans.
Cracking player in his pomp, injuries were taking their toll by the time he arrived here for his second spell.
Didn't know he was bankrupt though.

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16 Mar 2024 08:01:12
Ed001 I don't think the champions league draw could have been any better for us. Hope city and Arsenal both go through Pep's rivalry with Madrid and the Kane factor with Arsenal make both games that little bit bigger. Then if they both go through what I would expect to more massive games that really will put the pressure on both teams.

{Ed001's Note - whereas I would say a defeat for both would be better for Liverpool as it would knock their confidence and set them back badly.}

16 Mar 2024 09:33:15
I agree with Arsenal but I think Man City would bounce back hard but would love them knocked out by Arsenal in the Semis.

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16 Mar 2024 09:03:43
I think if we’re looking at this then we’re conceding that we didn’t do enough tog et the 3 points vs City 🤣

Who knows really, I’ve got no sense for it but imagine that for City whether they’re in CL or not for remainder of the season it won’t make a difference for them in the league. For Arsenal we’ll have to see. But I think they have elevated beyond being impacted by distraction of multiple comps.

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16 Mar 2024 09:06:26
Liverpool seemed to do ok competing on both fronts.

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16 Mar 2024 09:23:53
Theirs no easy games for all 3 teams every game throws up its own challenge . Although seeing city and Arsenal go toe to toe in a European semi will be good as it takes a lot out of the team and fans it ultimately means 1 team reaches the final which is not good . So I’d love to see Bayern and Madrid do a job on them and I’d say Madrid are better than they were 12 months ago and city aren’t as good . So could be interesting and il be honest I think Arsenal will struggle against Bayern over 2 legs they mad a meal out of Porto when that should have been a pretty comfortable tie over 2 legs . It shows me the chinks in the armour of both teams and really think everything is on the table for this Liverpool team .

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16 Mar 2024 10:13:29
Of the 3 teams in the title race I think we are in the best shape. The injuries could’ve derailed us but they haven’t and now we have players coming back in time for the run in.

I honestly think Arsenal peaked too soon and are now on a downward spiral performance wise. They will tire also as they have to play the same players every game.

City are City and will get results but they are not the winning machine they have been in the past.

I think all 3 teams will drop points between now and the end of the season but if I had to put a bet on it I think with the momentum we have and the players coming back fresh and ready, plus the emotion of Klopp leaving we will come out on top.

It’ll be exciting either way and we can’t lose sight of how lucky we are to support a club that’s in the hunt. With a bit of luck we’ll go all the way.

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16 Mar 2024 09:00:47
I know you don't like to make predictions, Ed, but do you see either of those two possibilities happening? Real Madrid will always have an extra gear in the Champions League but Man City are just a better team, while Bayern are just a mess at the moment and I’m not sure they have the organization, structure or sheer belief to put away Arsenal over two legs.

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{Ed001's Note - it certainly could happen. Bayern do seem to have a hold over Arsenal in recent years and Madrid are Madrid. If they are both going to go out at once, this was the only way it will happen. I can't see anyone else in the comp that can beat them.}

16 Mar 2024 11:46:59
Both draws couldn't have gone any better, including the routes to the finals. Arsenal and City squads will be sufficiently tested.

Now for us to get our players back and attack this last quarter of the season after the international break. I am so excited to have Trent, Curtis, Jota, Alisson, Gravenberch and even Bajcetic back and available for selection soon.

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16 Mar 2024 12:21:20
City won the treble last season BP, that seems very much like a winning machine to me mate 🤔.

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16 Mar 2024 12:35:34
BP I don’t think Arsenal have peaked they beat us because we were awful and gifted them 2 goals and they have had a good run because of the teams they have just played. But I think once the international break is over they have harder games coming up and they will start to struggle to score goals again.
I just don’t understand the loving in media for Arsenal.

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16 Mar 2024 13:46:58
BP - while you are correct with us having players coming back for the run in, it will be almost April when that happens, and it will take a few games for hem to get up to proper match fitness, so that could be a disadvantage.

Only might be though.

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16 Mar 2024 14:22:12
I think Madrid are bang average as a team . They do however have that winning mentality and perform when it matters. Bellingham could truly show if he's THAT special or rodri could do a number on him. Vincious is top class when he wants to be. Bayern are also there for the taking unless they land early blows to arsenal.

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16 Mar 2024 15:24:40
Madrid’s average team seems to beat us no problem. I have heard RM have had an average team for the last 5 years .

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16 Mar 2024 15:26:32
Arsenal are going to get a hiding by Bayern.

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16 Mar 2024 16:19:04
i hope both gets knocked out!
1, it will deflate them
2, with both potentially going trophyless, it'll be pretty nice if it really happened when we nick the title
3, can't see any side from the other bracket winning against them unless we are to see something like how we won it against Milan in 2005 or how Chelsea won at Bayern's home. it did be funny though if AM does a Mourinho and wins it against City.

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16 Mar 2024 21:14:34
Irish, what has last season got to do with it? We are talking about now.

City aren’t as good as they were last season at the moment.

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16 Mar 2024 21:35:29
Markp08 - Real Madrid clearly aren’t bang average, but they HAVE downgraded almost every position in their starting XI since 2018 except for Bellingham and Courtois.
We’ve always struggled with top Spanish teams during Klopp’s reign. Granted, we’ve had some amazing results but the majority of the time we’ve lost. Atletico and Real aren’t overawed by raucous atmospheres, and the latter, especially, have always had amazing technical quality in midfield to ensure they can start controlling a game.
Madrid have typically struggled to contain Man City because Man City are the only team in Europe to match them technically and at that point they don’t have the organization or tactics to compete, hence they either rely on absurd flukes (2022), or they get thumped (2020, 2023).
Enough rambling. Madrid are good but they are about to get thrashed by City, sadly.

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17 Mar 2024 08:40:53
I am pretty sure that in previous seasons, being beaten in the Champions League has had little to no effect on Man City’s performance in the Premiership.

Unsure why it would be different this season.

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17 Mar 2024 12:59:07
Spot on, StEtienneAmen. Makes no difference at all to Man City's PL season. They bottled the CL 6 of the last 7 seasons under Pep BUT didn't stop them winning the PL in some of those seasons.

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16 Mar 2024 07:14:41
Any of the EDs please. currently we are due to play Atalanta away on the Thursday @8pm and then Fulham away on the Saturday @3pm.

How likely is it that the Fulham game will be moved to the Sunday as that's just crazy and not something I've seen often before as you would have to almost play 2 different teams as so close together?

{Ed001's Note - 100% it will be a Sunday game.}

16 Mar 2024 07:46:38
Thanks Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome.}

16 Mar 2024 13:53:59
Wasn't it last season or the season before where we had two matches in two days?

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17 Mar 2024 00:52:11
That’s going to be a really tough game, Fulham are playing really well at home and have given a lot of bigger sides really hard games.

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17 Mar 2024 04:47:38
Fulham just sank Spurs convincingly
Then again, it could be spurs being spursy
Wins against Villa and loses against Fulham.

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16 Mar 2024 07:07:51
What’s everyone’s take on the Champions League draw and the potential to affect Arsenal and City’s Prem form?

Going deep in Euro competition is what good teams do but having 2 tough games each in the quarterfinals and then potentially playing each other twice more in the semi could take its toll, mentally and physically. They play each other next in the Prem too…gonna be an interesting few weeks.

So hoping we play well against United on Sunday and earn Klopp and the lads another day out at Wembley. The lads look on fire at the moment and Ali, Trent and Jota should be back to help out soon.

Loving this season and see no reason not to have high hopes for the next few with our squad and the solid philosophy left by Klopp.

16 Mar 2024 07:45:39
Apart from the intensity it’s also the negative mindset and disappointment if you lose. It’s a bold statement but I’d go as far to say that if they play each other, whichever team loses won’t win the title.

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16 Mar 2024 09:26:09
Just a shame they didn’t meet in the quarters as they would have played 3 times in 2 weeks and that would have really took a toll on them .

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16 Mar 2024 09:29:10
Looking at the fixtures, I think it'll hit arsenal more than city. City have Luton at home in between, can rest some players, but they're away to Tottenham after the 2nd leg. Arsenal have Brighton away and then Villa, 2 tough games. Ideal scenario, arsenal best city when they play them, and then drop points during the euro game period.

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16 Mar 2024 07:06:25
Hello ed1. What's your opinion on konate? By that I mean he's undoubtedly a v good player but he so injury prone constantly picking up niggles that tends to keep him out 3-4 weeks at a time. He can't play 3 games a week and I don't think ever he will ever be fit to do it. I think we need to buy a cb this summer anyway as we be in champ league and vvd will be going 33 so can't be expected to play all the time. i think we seeing benefit now of vvd not playing v much European or cup football in 1st half of season, he flying at min.
Do we just accept konate plays once a week or do we try and sell him and try to get somebody else in.

{Ed001's Note - for now I think we stick with him as he is such a good 1v1 defender. We need one more centre back anyway, so get that for the left and hold onto Konate until we can sort out Virgil's long term replacement and Salah's too.}

16 Mar 2024 08:23:07
Quansah and Gomez do such a good job covering then I don’t see the issue really.
I think a left sided CB is really important this summer, especially if Alonso comes in and we go to a back 3.

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16 Mar 2024 12:01:10
Klopp has tried to manage Ibou this season by not playing him more than once a week but he's still picking up knocks. Frustrating.

With Matip leaving, it's obvious we'll need to bring in another this summer. The good thing is that Quansah's development means we don't need two.

I know there's a lot of competition for him from PSG and Real but Leny Yoro would be the centreback signing I would be prioritising this summer.

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16 Mar 2024 12:25:51
I'd love Branthwaite but it will never happen because Everton.

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16 Mar 2024 13:59:14
Branthwaite would be my choice as well. Doubt everton would sell to us when he will have plenty of suitors willing to buy him.

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16 Mar 2024 16:34:23
Just touching on what you mentioned Ed001, do you reckon Virg has a few more years ahead of him? The captaincy seems to have given him an extra lift I think. Good for maybe 2 years?

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{Ed001's Note - quite possibly yes.}

16 Mar 2024 16:42:54
If you are our newly minted Sporting Director Ed, would you give him a 2 year extension mate?

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{Ed001's Note - depends on the terms it was on. Yes if a lower basic. Happy to give a higher win bonus etc if he is on the team to balance it out but then if he does fade it doesn't leave us stuck like we could have ended up with Henderson and Fabinho. Only the Sauds won't bail us out every summer.}

16 Mar 2024 19:37:28
Replacing, or preparing to replace, VVD has to be the top priority this summer. Even when he was rubbish last year he was still our best defender. Salah and Alison are incredible and thoughts need to be had about their long term replacements as well, but the last month or so proves we can manage without them. We don't win jack squat without VVD this year in my opinion, that's how highly I rate him. Klopp's most vital signing for me by a mile.

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15 Mar 2024 21:33:17
We are the best behaved team all around and the Ref gets it easy from our players. Other teams act poorly and with disdain to the point of embarrassment. Our players know the agenda and deal with it accordingly by winning football matches. It is really only our fans who moan and whine still for days afterwards when the players forget the way they were wronged as soon as the final whistle is blown.

16 Mar 2024 00:01:58
Im sure Diaz and co just forgot about losing to Spurs by abominable officiating as soon as the match was over. Im sure Curtis Jones was very philosophical about being red-carded for next to nothing. And when VVD was poleaxed by Pickford he probably lay in his hospital bed and thought ‘ah well, these things happen’.
Players and managers get fined for criticising refereeing decisions. Just because they are not verbalising their dissatisfaction in public, it doesn't mean the players ‘forget the way they were wronged as soon as the final whistle is blown’. The team’s conduct on the pitch is far better than most - especially the Manchester teams - but you can't tell me they don't throw their boots at the changing room wall and post their complaints anonymously online.

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16 Mar 2024 00:20:48
Im not sure about the facts around this lol but I’d be on board if you’re saying we’re the least complainery 🤣🤣🤣
Also didn’t Klopp get yellow carded last game for dissent!?

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16 Mar 2024 05:00:03
Us fans make up for the perceived lack of complaining from the players!

Let them to the talking on the field and we'll do the talking off the field

🤣.

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16 Mar 2024 06:48:09
@NBG, I beg to differ - what did VVD (the club captain) get sent off for earlier this season? Not sure what the point you are trying to is.

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16 Mar 2024 09:28:32
I think that was a massive learning curve from virg the sending off and I think he’s better from it . He’s been impeccable since.

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15 Mar 2024 21:31:12
What do you think will be Edward's role and what all positions is he looking forward to fill aside from the obvious DOF and Manager roles?

 


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