Liverpool banter 4

 

Use our rumours form to send us liverpool transfer rumours.

(single word yields best result)
 

22 Mar 2024 21:57:01
Watching the Spain v Colombia game and Diaz (who's having a very good game so far) just provided a boss assist (after cooking his defender "Kyle Walker" style) to his rampaging fullback on the other side who rifles it home off a scissors kick. Check it out if you haven't seen it. Oh, and Pedro Porro is getting cooked as well by Diaz.

22 Mar 2024 23:07:02
Porro's not very good, imo.

Agree4

23 Mar 2024 10:13:16
@SR and yet, you will find people saying Porro (or Walker) is better defensively than Trent. Trust me if Trent got his arse handed to him the same way Walker (in the City game) and Porro (vs Columbia) were by Diaz, they would still be writing about it till this day. But alas, you won't see it cos well, Walker and and Porro getting cooked does not sell clicks and reactions hence, money.

They only do this to Trent (the best RB defensively this season, IMO) cos they love the money they can make off his head by trashing him every time they got. We understand the assignment. and Im sure he does too.

Agree6

23 Mar 2024 10:25:12
He’s so much more direct for Colombia. For us he receives the ball with his back to the defence too often. For Colombia he’s wider and facing the defence when he receives the ball.

Agree1

23 Mar 2024 10:50:31
I agree one kiss. I believe there’s players in our squad who are asked to do a job that doesn’t suit their game in order to benefit the team.
I’m not a massive fan of Diaz personally, I think there’s better wide forwards out there, but he’s used in a way to release Nunez and Salah which makes his impact in G/ A quite poor compared to say Jota.
Szobo is another, he’s being asked to do a job, which is great for us, but he looks half the player that arrived in his first few games where he was electric almost unstoppable. Sacrifice for the team which is a great thing
I also agree with everything you said about Trent Oli 100%. He’s the benchmark for every fullback. All comparisons are with Trent.

Agree4

23 Mar 2024 11:02:18
Blinkered fans will say Walker is good so that must mean Trent is crap.

Almost like it’s not possible for there to be more than one good player in any position out there especially outside their own club.

To counter the argument we are saying Trent is the best so everyone else must be crap.

There’s lots and lots of good players worldwide outside of Liverpool.

Agree5

23 Mar 2024 11:16:23
Lfc8 I disagree a little on Diaz mate. I’m a big fan of his but his goal and assist return should be better but I think it’s down to his composure more over what he’s being asked to do. Over the last few months he’s getting around 4-5 good chances a game which he hasn’t capitalised on which could also be directed at Nunez.

For Colombia he’s their maverick and everything goes through him. For us he’s just 1 of 10 very important cogs in the outfield playing system.

He’s not had a great deal of playing time with Robbo this season and with him liking to cut in having an over lapping fullback is key which Gomez doesn’t offer, despite Gomez doing very well at Lb he also likes to come in onto his right foot.

Agree3

23 Mar 2024 13:09:12
The Lucho discussion is an interesting one.

Might sound contrarian but I think he's a very good finisher. I think he scores that one on one chance with City more often than not.

He's also excellent in the air, in the box or when battling for a switch out wide.

he has a great engine on him and hardly gives the ball away, even when doubled up on.

Where I do agree he could do better is look up a bit more when he has the ball at his feet. Sometimes a pass might be better and quicker than the dribble. A bit more vision let's say.

His first full season was decimated by that shocking assault by Partay at the Emirates. Surprised nobody seems to bring that up. That was an intentional follow through. This season started well. He was our best player against Chelsea on the opener and was immense at Spurs when we were robbed by that outrageous refereeing performance. The situation with his parents would have been incredibly difficult for him to focus on football, even after the relief of them being released safely.

I get the feeling he's going to have a big part to play in this final stretch. He seems happy, full of energy and is bouncing into games.

Whether there are better left wingers out there to replace him. Well, Vini Jr, Mbappe and Martinelli are not available to us and I am not sure Leao and Kvaratskhelia are any better than Lucho, or affordable to us.

Agree3

23 Mar 2024 16:08:46
I watched Lucho v Colombia and indeed, he is not really asked to track back as he stays up when the team is defending in transition cos he is their outlet due to his pace in behind esp. vs Spain who play a high line. Now the main issue I see and have seen with Diaz id that yes, he is an electrifying player, a brilliant dribbler and loves cooking his oppo. defender to the point of borderline embarrassing him.

Now we know he needs to do better in front of goal or have better decision making and here is what I have observed. Because of the speed at which he plays, he seems to lack a form of spacial awareness where he loses his bearings after running that fast. And when he slows down in the final 3rd, he seems disoriented and when trying to steady himself. then, he is off balance and then, stumbles and the chance is gone or the pass is short or over-hit. He did that vs City and did that vs Spain. He just needs to know when to slow down and play smart. it's about self control and better focus in the final third. Just my take.

Agree1

23 Mar 2024 16:11:08
"To counter the argument we are saying Trent is the best so everyone else must be crap".

Err literally, nobody (not me, at least) has said any of this, bro. All we are doing is playing the "what if" game here esp. since we have receipts to prove that Trent gets way harsher treatment than any other FB in the PL who get cooked. That's it. Maybe you should read the posts again.

Agree1

23 Mar 2024 18:22:58
Trents not even the best RB in the league and quite possibly in the near future not the best at the club.

Agree0

{Ed077's Note - Dalot is better 😜 }

23 Mar 2024 19:36:45
Err literally, nobody (not me, at least) has said any of this, bro

Well that was a quick contradiction in one sentence. which is it? Literally nobody or just you 🤷‍♂️
Maybe you should read JKs post from the top.

Agree4

23 Mar 2024 20:02:23
Oli with the superior complex you regularly parade on this site having to read your posts once is already enough for me mate.

Agree4

24 Mar 2024 00:36:06
Trent is already not the best RB at the club. To be honest I doubt he ever really was, just an exceptionally talented player being asked to fulfil a role.

Agree0

24 Mar 2024 19:35:11
Bradley has been exceptional but it is very early days still. Trent is the best right back at the club. Has been since he broke into the team. Jeez.

Agree0

22 Mar 2024 19:45:57
Obviously many of us have differing opinions when it comes to what is best for Liverpool Football Club, many of the discussion I have seen range from player ability, to staff and squad management, the ownerships influence or lack thereof, etc.

However, I think we are all aligned on one thing and that is that our Liverpool players get through this International period unscathed. If we are to make one final push for remaining prizes then we need as many players available and in fighting shape as possible. I honestly could not care less about performance, scoring exploits, just come back unharmed, please.

23 Mar 2024 09:10:08
Seconded.

Agree3

23 Mar 2024 09:56:35
Thirded.

Agree4

23 Mar 2024 10:13:54
Fourthed.

Agree4

23 Mar 2024 13:52:16
100%.

Internationals in March are ludicrous. And even more so when they are friendlies.

If we get everyone fit (with the exception of Thiago and Matip), then we stand a really good chance of finishing the season strong.

Agree5

24 Mar 2024 05:36:41
I think they use the international break to remind English football fans all about Gareth’s abilities. I really, really, REALLY hope that the rumours of Gareth replacing Seven are true - that would make me laugh a lot.

Agree4

22 Mar 2024 19:07:54
Really looking forward to the legends game tomorrow.

A sell out 59,655.

- Sven in the dug out in probably his final game as a "manager.
- Stevie G and El Niño hopefully linking up again.
- Dagger and skittles at centre half.
- Getting to sing the maxi Rodriguez song
- possibly a glimpse of the babelcopter.
- igor and momo bossing the midfield.

A wonderful way to spend an international break Saturday.

22 Mar 2024 19:33:46
U going to game wassa? your right wonderful way to send a day watching great players of the past. Brilliant of club to give sven his wish of managing the reds.

Agree4

22 Mar 2024 21:06:07
Aye Digger, wanted to check out the new upper anfield
Road.

The legends list is quality.

Agree2

22 Mar 2024 21:13:08
Better than watching international football Wassa. Enjoy.

Agree5

23 Mar 2024 00:13:16
Amazing support as usual by Liverpool fans selling out Anfield supporting the local community and all those behind the scenes respect to you all.

Agree3

23 Mar 2024 08:35:57
Enjoy Wassa.

For me, days like this are a testament to what this club is all about. A sell out, the enthusiasm of fans, officials, ex-players - and the genuine display of respect for Sven. Not sure it could happen anywhere else.

Massive respect to the foundation and all the work they do - hope it’s a brilliant day for all involved.

Agree4

24 Mar 2024 02:59:47
Hope you had a great day Wassa mate.

Agree0

Kobbie Mainoo

22 Mar 2024 10:48:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Kobbie Mainoo

22 Mar 2024 11:45:19
I hate to admit it too but Mainoo is some player. I was fully expecting to see a player that has been overhyped by the Utd fans and the media but he truly is something special. I thought he was exceptional in the FA Cup game against us and mostly came out on top on the midfield battle. Utd have a real gem on their hands with him and Garnacho.

Agree2

22 Mar 2024 12:26:16
Cracking player Dracred, like you I'd just heard Utd fans hyping him up and thought 'here we go again, another one' type thing - but the lad looks truly special and had a very good game against us.

Agree4

22 Mar 2024 12:35:23
I lost count of the times Mainoo passed the ball into touch. Maybe I’m being unfair but he doesn’t look all that.

Agree5

22 Mar 2024 12:48:21
He isn’t that good just the best of a bad bunch with Nacho. England talk is ridiculous. Remember I was a scout don’t yer know. Average springs to mind.

Agree4

22 Mar 2024 15:40:10
Ed1, it kinda stinks because he looks like a very good young player but is a Utd player. Is there anyone within our academy that looks like a special player to you Ed? Or any of our young player that have make their appearance in the first team this season that caught your eye?

Agree0

{Ed001's Note - Bajcetic is the one that stands out for us, or did before his injuries. Hopefully he can recover fully and reach his potential, which is sky high. Bradley obviously is our own special talent that has emerged into the first team this season. I do like the look of McConnell as well.}

22 Mar 2024 15:56:46
He did look like a special talent before the injury. He is putting on a bit more muscle in the new training picture. Hoping that will be a good sign. You did mentioned McConnell before. He is playing at a position where we have plenty of good players and most of them are young. That doesn't even counting Trent if he is to move to midfield. Do you think he can make it with us? Curious if his best position is as a DM or one of the two alongside DM?

Agree2

{Ed001's Note - I think McConnell is capable of playing any of the positions, but he has a tough job on to break in to the team.}

22 Mar 2024 16:05:01
Even Tyler Morton loan is doing well for him. But he probably going to be sold or loan again. What about Danns Ed? He is only playing few minutes so far. But what do you make of him?

Agree0

{Ed001's Note - looks sharp but does need to build himself up physically to play the way he looks to be best. He is strong in the air, but you need a bit of strength about you to use that strength most of the time. Otherwise you just end up being knocked away.}

22 Mar 2024 17:35:32
I'm so happy we have Bajcetic, Bradley and Quansah. If they all stay fit, they are going to be outstanding for us.

United definitely have a good one in mainoo. No point denting it because it's United. In a terrible season for them, at least they can hang onto the fact that they graduated a good youngster in a key position. Something to build on. Hopefully they won't though😄.

Agree3

22 Mar 2024 18:08:09
I like Mainoo but can't help thinking that him playing for united hasn't created a hype train but it certainly ADDED to it. The likes of Ferdinand were putting him forward for England after a handful of games, even now how many Prem games does he have 10 or 12?Very good little player but this time last year Bajcetic was doing the same for us, don't remember anyone clamouring for Spain to be building the team around him. If anything he was the easy target for Lfc fans after defwats against Real etc, and we were struggling as much as a team then as Utd are now.

Agree1

{Ed077's Note - Ed001 did a profile on a young academy lad, coming through at United and all you can do is moan and complain that Bajcetic (who's been out injured most of the season) isn't getting any love? You do realise that there can be more than one good player right?}

22 Mar 2024 18:24:22
Hearing Utd want to replace Ten Hag with Southgate.

If Southgate goes there it would be brilliant. Expect to see Maguire start every week and Hendo to return to the premier league to be Southgate’s midfield lynchpin.

Mainoo to move on then to get away from a relegation battle.

Agree3

22 Mar 2024 18:45:16
My first thought was zidane to Utd. Us to get naglesman and tuchel to go to Newcastle.

Agree2

{Ed077's Note - Who goes to Bayern in that scenario? Alonso?

I think Jose to Newcastle makes a lot of sense.}

22 Mar 2024 16:53:45
Mainoo is a promising prospect BUT like someone said, he is our Baj of last season where he was good to very good in a bad bunch. However, I thing Baj has the upper hand here cos he was good in a bad bunch while Mainoo is good in an even worse bunch at Utd, if that makes sense. Both players are very promising regardless.

That said, Baj is amazing and I rated him from the first moment I saw him turn a RB Salzburg player and sent him to the shops in one half turn. As for Macconell and Morton, I will need to see more of them to better judge them.

Agree3

22 Mar 2024 19:34:48
Wasnt moaning or complaining, players like elliott or jones have yet to recieve a call up. if you think a player without an u21 cap and 15 league games to his name isn't helped somewhat by the sky led hype train then what can i say, your probably still waiting for Maguire to morph into utd's virg. but like i said i do like Mainoo.

Agree3

22 Mar 2024 19:58:26
Garnacho is massively overrated. Scored one good goal. I bet he disappears in the next few years. One trick pony.

Agree2

22 Mar 2024 21:48:20
Garnacho works hard and is a nuisance for defenders. He creates space for the other attackers just with his movement too. He's still very young but he has improved as the season has gone on. The most impressive thing I find about him is his work rate. In the FA Cup game against us, he never stopped running for the entire 120mins which is very impressive. I think we have to learn how to give credit to other players from other teams when they deserve it.

Agree4

22 Mar 2024 22:02:27
Noooo Jose to Bayern Ed 77 Alonso stays put.

Agree1

{Ed077's Note - still harboring hopes of Alonso eventually becoming your manager?😁}

23 Mar 2024 08:08:09
The thought of Nagelsmann ending up as our manager appalls me. If that’s the best we can do then we might as well write off 18 months until he’s inevitably sacked. He completely lacks any of the competencies needed to replace Klopp, his judgement has been found to be extremely poor, the Bayern players actively tried to get him out they had that little respect for him or his “tactics” and then there’s the matter of him saying he as good as held our club in contempt in an interview. I’d be Nagelsmann out from the start as I don’t believe he deserves a chance.

Agree1

23 Mar 2024 10:06:11
@Victor, the next manager isn’t being brought in to replace Klopp.

The next manager is being brought in to be the manager of Liverpool FC starting with the 24 / 25 season - there’s a difference.

I honestly can’t think of anyone who can replace Klopp - in the sense they do what he does but better.

Taking a start point of we are looking for the next version of Klopp means that you will only be disappointed whoever the manager turns out to be.

Agree3

23 Mar 2024 10:21:54
ViktorVaughan like you, I want nothing to do with that Nagelsmann of a fellow. He seems to be bored when he is not managing a club hence, he seems to get any job or ready to take any job that comes his way whenever he is out of work. And if he did had contempt for our club in an interview then thet only rubber-stamps my point as in, Nagelsmann needs NOT apply.

Also, Im not convinced at all that he is the right guy for the job cos he seems to lack the humility (competences, perhaps) to be a good steward of our great club and would prolly like to stamp his own authority on the culture Klopp, his staff, the players and FSG have worked hard to build cos he thinks he is that good which he A'INT, in my view. He and DeZerbi can keep it stepping, IMO.

Agree3

23 Mar 2024 12:05:13
By very definition a new manager will be “replacing” Klopp, given that they’ll take the place of an outgoing manager.

I’d at least want someone competent, someone who respects the club, the supporters and ethos of the club. Nagelsmann meets none of those criteria, he’s not competent, he doesn’t respect the club or supporters (he’s literally on record as saying that), he certainly doesn’t care or understand the ethos of the club, all of those things that Klopp was from day one.

He’s the wrong man to manage the club, he’s nothing more than Brendan Rodgers with a German accent. He was out of his depth at Bayern, he is out of his depth with the German national side, he’d be out of his depth in a very shallow puddle.

Agree1

21 Mar 2024 16:22:04
Hi Ed001. Hope all is going ok mate with your living arrangement upheavals? Just wondered what you think on the 10 game "shoot-out" for the Premier League title? The run-ins are all pretty similar really. Personally, I hope City and Arsenal both make it the Champs League semis and then have a grueling battle over 2 games - that can only bode well for us in the run in. Will be interesting to see how many points are needed - maybe 25? Just hope we can stay injury free for the last 2 months and have a 2nd Prem for JK . and the Europa League Cup of course! :-)

{Ed001's Note - do you not think losing now would be better for Arsenal and City? Dent their confidence?}

21 Mar 2024 16:46:15
It's a good point - but just think the extra games take their toll. Look at us against Man U - the games eventually catch up with you don't they? Just so want that Prem Title and am just looking for anything that gives us an edge!

Agree6

21 Mar 2024 18:14:39
Best case scenario we win the treble and city and Arsenal get knocked out of the CL.

Worst case scenario we go out of Europa Arsenal win the league and city win back to back CL.

I’d happily sell my soul for Scenario 1.

Agree11

22 Mar 2024 05:19:12
Games won’t take their toll on Arsenal this season. They were out the domestic cups so early that they’ll play a maximum of 53 games in any case. Though Arteta has had the luxury of choosing his best 11 for the vast majority of the season, something he hasn’t hesitated to do, a physical toll won’t impact Arsenal’s season unless they pick up injuries.
A loss in the Champions League and another likely trophy-less season, however, would probably ruin their title challenge. These are serious times for Arteta - he’s been in charge four and a half years, won almost nothing, and cannot continue to spend like Man City for much longer. He needs to win one of the two big prizes this season.

Agree3

22 Mar 2024 07:14:51
Only 2 games I can see possiblity of city dropping points is arsenal+ spurs, rest they will win handy I think. arsenal will draw a blank in some game they would expect to win, also they have city, utd and spurs all away. we have tough run in of away games at end, west ham+everton (possibly) +fulham all away in a week. everton looks like it going to be that week. V hard to look beyond city unfortunately.

Agree2

22 Mar 2024 09:25:35
LoweLFC, I disagree slightly here. The games will now come back to back to back for Arsenal and it could take it's toll on them physically mainly becos Arteta does NOT rotate almost at all. Saka plays 90 mins every game, Jesus can't stay fit, Nketiah never plays and Zinchenko is injury prone. And the likes of Elneny, Cedric, Reece Williams (all like Nketiah) never see the pitch either and Partey just came back from a long lay off. Same with Timber. That's a lot, mate.

For me and most importantly with that brutal schedule they have in their final 10 games (City, Spurs, Utd, Wolves, Brighton away with Chelsea and Villa at home), there are going to be some seriously trying times for them with the calendar they have coming up. We shall see how they handle it.

Agree5

22 Mar 2024 10:09:28
Yeh Digger but if they DO drop points in them games they could be six points behind us. That happens we win the league.

Agree1

22 Mar 2024 10:26:45
Olired - It’s certainly possible they hit a wall and don’t have the energy to pull themselves over. I just think that, for a top 6 club, 50-odd games can be considered a pretty standard season - should they make it to the CL final it won’t be their 63rd game of the season like it was for us.
(You’re right about Arteta - he doesn’t rotate and has been quite fortunate with injuries for two seasons. )
I just think a loss in the CL/ PL would be a lot more damaging to them than tiredness.

Agree2

22 Mar 2024 10:35:43
Only results the squad can affect are our own.

Aim to win every game we have left is all we can do. If Arsenal do the same then it’s down to goal difference.

None of us predicted losing last Sunday and I think all 3 teams will drop points in the last 10 games. It’s just a case of us picking up more points than the other two.

Agree2

22 Mar 2024 10:50:48
I think loosing would work for arsenal but not city mate. they would just be more motivated. arsenal are like a balloon waiting to be popped.

Agree4

22 Mar 2024 12:32:13
Aye JK I agree, just need to focus on our own games - win every one and we win the league I think, to make life easier for us supporters they could smash a few teams as well and sort out any goal difference worries lol

That's the thing though Digger, we look at the games against Arsenal, Chelsea etc as potential banana skins for City but they can win those easy enough and then drop points to Wolves etc - hard to judge where a team drop points tbh this season or last, especially City, as they have a tendency to win those 'banana skin' type games but drop points then against teams we thought they'd smash

Definitely an interesting run in - more for neutrals than us lol, but I just really hope we can win all of our remaining matches - be great for Klopp to leave with another League title.

Agree2

22 Mar 2024 16:59:24
"I just think a loss in the CL/ PL would be a lot more damaging to them than tiredness. "


Fullu agree, LoweLFC. That can also happen. Let me put it this way: There is a world where all of these scenarios happen and others where one of each of them happens. Either way, that schedule they have is brutal and trust me, it will be a hard ask, IMO.

As for us, we recognise the assignment. We win all our games, we win the title cos Arsenal ain't winning all 10 of their game. Not with that schedule, IMO. If it happens then, hats off to them. It's in our hands still, me thinks.

Agree3

22 Mar 2024 21:49:51
Am I right in thinking it’s 20 years since Arsenal last won the league? It’s getting over the line that their issue which is a mental one rather than a physical one. Whilst it’s been 4 for us a number of players remain from then. I still think City will win it but in my view we should be happy with our season, as done really well with a lot of positives - nearly all signings have done well, some fantastic emerging talent that have hugely stepped up, with pick of the bunch in Bradley.

Agree3

23 Mar 2024 10:25:36
HessleRedTom1980, I agree BUT we need to aim higher than this cos when the facts change, the objectives should change as well which they have cos Klopp himself said we were going for everything right after his departure announcement.

Let's give it our absolute best, aim to win every game from here on out and then well, hope for the best outcome, IMO.

Agree1

21 Mar 2024 15:41:34
I see that Bayern's President - Uli Hoeness - is trying to destabilize Leverkusen and Alonso again - check the article on the BBC Sport website.

Clinging on to the hope that Bayern could still win the league this year!

21 Mar 2024 18:19:47
Zed, they run this gambit all the time when they know they won't win the title. They did it when Klopp rinsed them to win back to back titles. They're so full of it and desperate, it's hilarious.

Agree3

21 Mar 2024 20:54:44
Well, it seems to work, in the end. See their number of titles won in recent decades. Not to mention the fact that they always get their choice of players and managers from both the local and European leagues.

Surprising that they have a convicted criminal in charge (yes, he did his time and paid his dues) but the stain remains for ever. Unless you're Bayern Munich.

Agree2

22 Mar 2024 05:17:15
Bayern President tries to undermine major rival in Bundesliga. Imagine that, it’d never happen in England.

Agree1

22 Mar 2024 09:30:37
ArAy1969, such stunts only work IF you allow it to get into your head, mat. There's a reason why it has only worked cos the other teams bottle it like Leverkusen and Schalke did in 00/ 01 and 01/ 02 respectively and you can add the biggest bottle job in Dortmund of last season into the mix.

The only team it did not work for (or against) was you guessed it: Klopp's teams who won it back to back. Hmmm, I wonder why? Could it be that Klopp's boys were made of a lot more than these other teams and had the mentality to win and never allowed Bayern get into their heads? I guess we'll never know.

Agree2

21 Mar 2024 13:52:25
Looking forward to this summer. once Klopps received the send off he so rightfully deserves, when the dust settles and we get to see who the new manager will be, how the team sets up, who the new recruits will be and who will depart. Exciting new era. the team Is already strong but with a few additions man this team will be scary. FSG prove time and again they know what they’re doing. Who does everyone want to see the club sign this summer?

21 Mar 2024 14:28:20
I have a sneaky feeling that Salah will move on in the summer so another forward would be a must if that happens.

If Salah, Thiago and Matip all leave in the summer the reduction in our wage bill would probably excite some fans more than any quadruple would.

Agree10

21 Mar 2024 15:44:26
Not as much as net transfer spend JK, that's enough to get the juices flowing.

Agree13

21 Mar 2024 15:58:46
Now we’re talking Stuie. I just had a twitch reading that 🤣.

Agree8

21 Mar 2024 18:55:14
Apparently itts Between xa and J n well that’s what I’ve heard.

Agree2

21 Mar 2024 20:00:26
Can only buy home growners too.

Agree2

 


Liverpool Banter


Liverpool Banter 2


Liverpool Banter 3


Liverpool Banter 5


Liverpool Banter 6


Liverpool Banter 7


Liverpool Banter 8


Liverpool Banter 9


Liverpool Banter 10


Liverpool Banter Archives

 

Posting / Reply Form

To post you must be logged in with a username. Please Log In or Register for a username.


 

 

 

 

 

 
Log In or Register to post

User
Pass
Remember me

Forgot Pass  
 
Change Consent