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20 Mar 2019 13:37:21
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20 Mar 2019 13:37:21
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20 Mar 2019 13:37:21
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20 Mar 2019 10:42:13
Just looking at an article which shows all of Rafas signings at LFC. Who remembers Mark Gonzalez? I thought he was going to be the absolute dogs nuts, actually rates him in his time with us. Does ED001 and the rest of you guys remember him and why didn't it work out?

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{Ed001's Note - he was very quick but awful technically.}

20 Mar 2019 13:13:25
Remember him, it was a punt that didn't work out. Anyone know how his career went? I mean, isn't Luis Alberto doing well now?

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20 Mar 2019 13:26:31
Think he played in Spain for a while and then back to South America.

Him and Sebastian Leto filled the role of "lesser-spotted South American Winger" for about 4 seasons back in the 2000's.

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20 Mar 2019 09:40:36
Happy birthday El Nino!

Although I was fuming when he left. I believe time has healed my wounds! What a player he was for us, particularly in that first season.

A couple of questions, firstly for ED001. I know he was slowly declining in his last season for Liverpool but do you think his level would have dropped as bad as it was at Chelsea if he had decided to stay? I'm sure he'd have loved playing with Suarez.

And secondly, for ED002. Is there any specific reason he just didn't reach the heights he did at Liverpool for you guys? I know he won a few trophies but he was the best striker in the world at one point and I thought he'd be a huge success at Chelsea.


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{Ed001's Note - yes his legs had gone.}

20 Mar 2019 11:17:41
Thanks Ed. I remember he had a lot of injuries but I can't recall any serious ones. I guess he was just rushed back? We did seem very reliant on him at times.

What could have been. I'm sure with Suarez alongside he'd have scored more consistently still.

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{Ed001's Note - no, it was just the type of player he was. He was explosive, those are the muscles that go early. That is the main reason why a lot of players who break through young fade out early, rather than because they emerge young. They are almost invariably like Torres and Owen, all about explosive pace, Sturridge is another one. Those muscles just suffer badly from injuries because of the huge loads put through them so quickly and the injuries affects the mind and the body to the point where the explosive force can no longer be generated as elasticity fades young and so the muscles can no longer cope.

Unless they alter their style of play, they never last long. Torres's skill came from incredible acceleration that gave him a split second over anyone else. Once it went, he was never the same player and it would not have mattered who was alongside him. He could have had Pele and Maradona and it would have made no difference.}

20 Mar 2019 13:20:14
He only had one knee when we sold him for 50 mil. Doesn't sound such a huge fee but then it was massive. We got his two best seasons out of him and sadly injury halted his path to true legendry. Best striker at the club since God. Would have been the best in the world if prem defenders hadn't hacked his legs off.

Happy birthday el nino, magic in the air fenando. I have never felt any ill will against him, its was more aimed at Chelsea who had become the first English club to be able to buy anyone they wanted. They bought players just so rivals could not sign them. And then didn't play them. Ruined shaun Wright Philips career with that tactic.

Loved his face up to Terry on his debut and then scored 1 0 under rafa of course.

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20 Mar 2019 13:31:43
Thanks for your insight Ed. First class as always.

I have a feeling Brewster may be in that category as well. Hopefully his legs haven't gone already.

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{Ed001's Note - that can be a problem with youngsters who look good at an early age, it is usually because they are just more physically developed than their age group.

And you are very welcome.}

20 Mar 2019 09:52:36
Does anyone know what’s happening with shaqiri? I saw it was reported a few days ago that he was possibly being punished for behavioural issues but he’s just pulled out of the Swiss squad through injury. Do any of the Ed’s know if he’s been carrying this injury for a while, preventing him from playing or has he had some behavioural issues?


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{Ed002's Note - It is not an injury. The Swiss explained what it is.}

20 Mar 2019 10:43:36
Yes, they said it is inflammation of the groin which I thought counted as an injury. What I meant was, is this what has been keeping him out of the side? Or is this a fresh problem?

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{Ed002's Note - Nappy rash is what they are saying.}

20 Mar 2019 10:53:36
All I know mate is for Liverpool he isn't good enough due to him being so lazy. He has the potential but chooses not to use it.

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20 Mar 2019 12:26:38
Do you know that for a fact Salah or is it your opinion?

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20 Mar 2019 13:26:55
Usually agree with you salah dude but I don't think that's the case. I think we are at the most vital part of the season and klopp is sticking to his trusted guard of milly, gini, hendo and now fabhino. I'm sure he w up ll get chances in games we have the massive advantage but we cannot afford laziness, switching off at this point.

Also, the way he celebrated for mane's 2nd at bayern tells me he is happy and well in with the dressing room.

It's a shames as I feel shaq is the key to getting salah firing again. They worked so well down that left side. Lallana' re emergence has also had a part to play. As ad's works harder in closing down and tackling, yet they both have the ability to play forward and create.

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Review Of The Day 20th March 2019

20 Mar 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 20th March 2019

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20 Mar 2019 08:09:37
Cheers for that ed, it’s very much appreciated, have a good day.

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{Ed001's Note - you too mate, hope you are doing well?}

20 Mar 2019 09:00:23
Putin has a human rights adviser? 😐.

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{Ed001's Note - I know! Hard to get your head around that isn't it? I had to read it a few times to be sure. Perhaps his full title is something like "ways to deprive human rights" advisor?}

20 Mar 2019 10:38:17
Thanks very much Ed, have a good one mate!

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{Ed001's Note - you too mate.}

19 Mar 2019 21:35:27
Hey Eds01, you mentioned a famous photo of your dad diving to save a goal whilst behind goal😂 at the kop end, any chance of putting a copy up on sighting page please?

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{Ed001's Note - it is my grandad mate and I will have to see who has the cuttings, but yes it should be possible. I think. I know me nan had them before she died, but not sure who got them then.}

19 Mar 2019 19:59:56
First time poster, been a fan of site for many years finding myself checking it at least twice a day now for latest match reports and fellow fan thoughts/ feedback. Thanks for all hard work Ed's etc put in it's greatly appreciated! Just wanted to ask if everyone has seen the premier league fixture predictor on the echo website and if their final league table looks as good as mine?

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19 Mar 2019 20:48:44
Welcome Jonesy 🤠.

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19 Mar 2019 21:33:26
Welcome jonesy, as long as we're at the top, that's the only prediction I care about!

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19 Mar 2019 21:47:47
Welcome mate!

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20 Mar 2019 04:43:54
Welcome pal.

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19 Mar 2019 17:15:53
I don't know what the likelyhood is of us even thinking of resigning Courtinio, but I am a bit confused about the financial deal when we sold him. As I understand it Barcelona still owe us some money and this in turn was depending on appearances and success. Perhaps I am totally wrong and I am sure the Edds could enlighten me. What effect would this have on how much we would pay if we decided to sign him

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{Ed002's Note - It would make no difference to what Liverpool would have to pay. Barcelona have to finish paying the transfer fee regardless. Any additional future payments due to appearances and performance would not be paid if he were sold, be it to Liverpool or anyone else.}

19 Mar 2019 19:48:30
This is one of the risks when agreeing transfers with multiple additional clauses and payments.

Its also the reason that we should always defer to the Eds when thinking about the money side of things as there's few who seem to understand the complexities and implications of the finances surrounding transfers.

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19 Mar 2019 20:01:43
I think quite a few people, including some of the Ed’s, questioned the value of the deal and potential loss to LFC when it was publicised

Looked great in essence- but was strewn with risk in terms of clauses met to release extra money owed.

Probably LFC making it look like they got a fantastic deal for someone who plainly wants to leave.

Good PR- but now deal doesn’t look as good as it once did.

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19 Mar 2019 20:48:02
i'm not usually fussed about this, but I wonder what the angle is when people are insinuating that the deal was not as good as presented. like, what was the alternative? keep an unhappy player? sell him to another club for a better deal (that may not have been there? )

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19 Mar 2019 21:12:59
I don’t think anyone has said keep him
The deal was portrayed as coming to a certain amount- but was never likely to reach that amount given clauses required

That’s all.

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19 Mar 2019 21:22:21
Eds 02 walked us through the deal before, it was something in the region of 100/ 110 mill paid in installments with extras based on appearance's, winning leagues, champions leagues learning to gravitate ect, in total 142 million.

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{Ed002's Note - The agreement is in Euro not GBP.|

19 Mar 2019 22:36:54
Thanks to Edd02 for his reply and other subscribers comments I don’t believe we will sign him or he would come but I wonder why you would entertain such arrangements.

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19 Mar 2019 22:46:38
Cheers Eds 02, personally I don't want him back and doubt Klopp does either, but it seems that Barcelona want shot of him, where do think he will go next.

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20 Mar 2019 07:35:24
I don’t know why we, as fans, pay such attention to the financial side of things. It’s just so complex that it’s on a completely different level of understanding to the majority. Granted there will be one or two who are well versed through their background.

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20 Mar 2019 10:56:36
Yes, exactly my thoughts too Ron. The financial side of things are completely irrelevant to us as fans.

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Fulham v Liverpool - A Liverpool Perspective

19 Mar 2019 09:01:58
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Fulham v Liverpool - A Liverpool Perspective

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19 Mar 2019 09:37:49
Thanks a lot Ed. It was strange watching Babel score, really felt for him haha never seen someone not enjoy scoring a goal as much. Fair play though, he's been a massive red ever since he joined us and even before that apparently.

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{Ed001's Note - yeah he has always been a red mate. It was a dream come true when he signed for us.}

19 Mar 2019 09:57:04
Cheers ed, to be honest, I’d agree in pretty much everything but I did think Origi was well above average when he came on. His energy and enthusiasm is infectious for tired legs and frequently he made himself available and when he did get the ball he looked a threat at making things happen. It’s probably too late in his career at Liverpool to save himself but he has surprised me this season in the few appearances he’s managed from the bench. I’d given up on Milner before but now I think he’s had an outstanding season. Perhaps it’s just wishful thinking that he’ll further improve under klopp to that extent but if nothing else, I would love to see the lad recover the form he had a few seasons ago before he got toffee’d. Would love to see him become, if nothing else, an outstanding off the bench player.

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{Ed001's Note - I like Origi. I remember a Belgian coach who worked with him tell me he was the biggest natural talent of their whole squad.}

19 Mar 2019 10:14:43
Thank you Ed, some great views.

I love how unhappy Babel was scoring that goal (I didn't care at the time, I was so furious! ) . You could tell it almost broke his heart tapping it in.

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{Ed001's Note - it will have mate. Poor bugger.}

19 Mar 2019 10:58:19
Slightly harsh on the Gini comment about being reliable not to score although I did lol!

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19 Mar 2019 11:49:13
Dj Babel, who knows what would have happened if his head wasn't turned by his love of music. I would say he would have been on that list of greats Wirral Wonder was compiling. He was a great player when his head was in the game.

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19 Mar 2019 12:00:49
Mbwell77, if I can be pedantic for just a moment - I put forward my personal list of ‘Liverpool legends’ and as numerous posters have pointed out, some actual Liverpool greats did not make my list for all kinds of reasons, admittedly some quite bizarre. For instance, Mark Lawrenson doesn’t make my list because of his daft haircut, for having a beard before they were fashionable and for making pathetic jokes on MOTD.

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19 Mar 2019 12:06:16
Glad to see you back Salah Ed. He's playing well still in my opinion. His finishing is just poor of late. Once he gets one, his composure will be back and the floodgates will open.

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19 Mar 2019 11:58:02
Fair to say that in the last two games that lalanna has been quicker on the ball Ed? I know he can do more and be even better with his quality but I thought the amount of times he took more than 3 touches was at a much lower rate the last couple games compared to prior?

At some stage in a 10 minute cameo he has 10 unnecessary cruyf turns. I saw a lot less of that the last couple weeks.

Great review again though thank you.

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{Ed001's Note - I have to admit I can't even remember him doing a Cruyff turn once, which is not always a plus but it is better than doing 20 for the sake of it! He has been a lot better but there is still a way to go, as he has been so good off the ball, I just want to see him be as good on it again. He was for a short time before the injury problems.}

19 Mar 2019 12:26:45
Ed01, last night I watched a review of the PL from last season on Sky Sports. One of the most noticeable things about so many of Mo Salah’s goals was how natural and relaxed he was in his finishing. I agree that he is getting double- and triple-marked in some games this season and is getting fewer goal scoring chances but he does often look a little tense and tentative when he does get a chance. Is it a simple (ha! ) case of getting him to relax again? And if so how does the coaching team go about doing that? Or does he just keep playing until he gets a goal and it will all be good for him again?

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{Ed001's Note - the latter really. It is a natural thing for a goalscorer to tighten up when going through a drought. When he scores it will be like a weight off his shoulders.}

19 Mar 2019 13:11:42
Despite Milner's mistake I thought his sub was instrumental in livening up the team and driving them forward, origi takes some credit for that too. As ed said, he toyed with Christie during his short cameo.

All in all a great result similar to the ones at the start of the season when we were not playing great but still picking up results. It's the reason we are in this position now, which perplexes me all the more when I see moaning despite us actually winning the game.

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19 Mar 2019 13:26:04
Lol yeah with Salah it's bound to be a bit more difficult for him this season because of how brutal to defences he can be. The instructions must be as simple as 'don't give him an inch of space' But still, he's joint second goalscorer. Once he scores we're going to see him at his best once again I have no doubt but if not who cares, he's still doing a fantastic job.

Great review Ed, much appreciated mate.

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19 Mar 2019 14:22:30
What was really noticeable with Lallana was the way he was gesturing to the players to up the tempo, especially in the first half when play seemed to be a little slow in the final third. You could see his movement off the ball trying to create space in and around the edge of the box. I was really impressed with him but agree with the frustrations you raise about him Ed1. Many thanks for the review.

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19 Mar 2019 16:02:16
Despite being almost certain to be relegated Fulham are a much better team at home than away. 15 points at home vs 2 points away shows that. Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea have all had to fight to the end to beat Fulham at Craven Cottage.

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19 Mar 2019 17:59:35
I think Lallana gets unwarranted abuse from us and extremely derogatory remarks such as being “dead weight” and a call to “get rid”. He’s had terrible luck with injuries for a number of years but has always come back fighting. He was a key player under Klopp for a couple of years, and he must be doing something incredible in training to be part of Klopps starting eleven again. It is not his fault that he was put on the wing in the CL final while being hopelessly unfit. In fact it is testament to his work ethic that Klopp even considered him.

He is going through a purple patch right now, so I hope we will take a moment to reflect now so that we are a bit more measured in his criticism next time he is off the pace or saying something not to our taste in the media.

Furthermore I have heard that he is a highly intelligent and a humble bloke outside football.

I hope he wins a medal or two this season with us so he is fondly remembered for the good things he has done (albeit in brief patches) .

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{Ed002's Note - Adam Lallana was supposed to be the replacement for Gerrard as captain, and whilst "highly intelligent" is probably not the best description, he is reasonably bright, communicates very well and is really well respected. As a player his career has crashed and burned since the very start after moving to Liverpool nearly five years ago. A knee injury picked up in early training sessions that resulted in him missing some of the preseason and the start of the season. His hamstring seems OK now but I am sure the club are regularly looking at what has become his major issue. He is a very good player and would have been a regular if it weren't for injury. I know that Matt Le Tissier tried to persuade him to stay at Southampton at the time, but Matt has really felt for him as injuries have really wrecked his Liverpool career. I know the fans have very much turned against him, but it doesn't make him any less of a player.}

19 Mar 2019 18:30:56
Great assessment on Lallana, Ed02. I have always admired his raw technical skill, something no other English player possesses, IMO. He is easily two-footed which IMO, should make him the most dangerous player on the pitch cos he is SO unpredictable. Alas, injuries have wrecked his career of late and we wo=ill never know hat might have been cos we know what Lallana is like when on form.

As for the review Ed01, I fully agree with you on VVD. When the ball comes to him, he strangely flails his arms at Allison as if he is expecting him to have come for the ball. What he should have done was to tell Allisson to stay home since he was not coming for the ball and then hack it away. Or, he tells Allison to come for the ball and then he heads it to him so he can catch it. He does NEITHER of those things. Allison as well, makes a mistake for not going for the ball with his hands BUT VVD should have dealt with the issue from jump. Either way, I hope both learn from this episode and communicate better in the future.

I also agree with your assessment of Origi. I have always loved him and ironically like the Belgian coach you mentioned that worked with him in the past, I also thought he was the most naturally gifted CF in the Belgian squad. The likes of Batshuayi, Benteke or Lukaku are NOT better than him in terms of natural talent, IMO. I hope he can stay and keep improving cos there is too much talent in there to waste.

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19 Mar 2019 18:34:22
Saints fan here, browsing through the other clubs pages. talk of lallana, when he left us I was devastated not because of how he supposedly went "judas" on us or stitched us up or anything like that. purely because he was on absolute fire for us and thought he was going to be our new le tiss replacement for the long term. Injuries have really wrecked his Liverpool career, but when fit and MATCH fit with an extended run in the team he's a fantastic player. He looked like England's best player at times and seemed perfect for international football but it seems every time he started to make himself undroppable, he would get injured. Would love him back at saints. Failing that id like to seem him stay and succeed at Liverpool, rather than move to some other club. although apparently he did grow up as an Everton fan so maybe he'd move across the park? Lol.

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{Ed025's Note - its a pity that hes a real pussy milky, the heart of a mouse that boy..

20 Mar 2019 04:27:54
Lallana was instrumental when Klopp first came in for instituting the high press strategy. We should not forget how important he was to setting the tone for the rest of the team and establishing the platform we now have built on.

Unfortunately injuries and our style has evolved so his slowing down of the play when on the ball is more visible, and the quality of the side has improved too, but he’s still a useful squad player when on form (just not on the wing please! ) .

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{Ed001's Note - he looked really good playing as a 'false 9'.}

20 Mar 2019 01:14:08
Ed002, thanks for the insight!

Ed25, heart of a mouse? Wow have you ever seen Lallana bottle a challenge, lose a 50/ 50, or shown poor work rate? If nothing else, the guy has commitment!

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{Ed025's Note - that could be me being over sceptical hanif, i have a deep mistrust of players who are out injured a lot, daniel sturridge has a lot to answer for mate..

20 Mar 2019 07:40:39
Great technician on the ball.
For me he lacks a bit of pace at the highest level, in terms of raw speed but also in terms of moving the ball. It’s a shame because his skill creates space and opportunity but he gives opponents time to catch up with him by delaying.
He had one excellent half season.
I always thought he was more suited to international football or domestic football in another country where the physicality is less important and skill is a premium.

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{Ed001's Note - I totally agree Ron. Like James in that respect, he is so slow he can only shine on an international stage, which is closer to walking football that league football as a comparison point.}

Review Of The Day 19th March 2019

19 Mar 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 19th March 2019

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19 Mar 2019 07:49:36
Cheers for that ed, much appreciated mate, incidentally, could you tell me where I might find some of ed3’s previous work? Asking for a friend.

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{Ed001's Note - he has his own site for that mate. You should know it was him that pointed you over to the sites when you were his best customer there....}

19 Mar 2019 08:27:07
Cheers for that ed, much appreciated mate, incidentally, could you tell me where I might find some of ed3’s previous work? Asking for a friend.


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{Ed001's Note - hahaha}

19 Mar 2019 09:41:21
Haha nice one Salah.

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19 Mar 2019 13:27:05
I find it rather bizarre that ‘the usual suspects’ always get new shiny job offers, even if their résumées would perhaps indicate immediate failure.

It all seems so. shortsighted. businesslike - always This Quarter - rather than sustainably planning ahead. Which could include a bumpy road.

There should not be a shortage of candidates one would think. I do understand that the top positions are quite qualified work, and I’m not suggesting myself.

Is it a case of chicken vs egg discussion regarding experience? Nepotism and ‘making friends at high places’?

I see questionnarks, but I don’t know if there is a question here. I just don’t get it. Over and out.

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{Ed001's Note - friends I think is the answer. It is about who you know and always will be.}

18 Mar 2019 23:39:55
Hi ED001,

I hope you are good. I was just wondering how far away you were from doing a player profile for my all time favourite Footballer - John Barnes. I saw him on the Harry's Heroes programme today so was reminded of this, although of course no immediate rush as I know how busy you are and appreciate all your efforts.

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{Ed001's Note - I have no idea mate, the list is huge and I am not sure when I will get round to who to be honest, sorry.}

19 Mar 2019 06:58:37
I watched that last night Kpee. Razor ruddock has put on one or two extra pounds!

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19 Mar 2019 09:15:24
The legend that is John Barnes, the sole reason I love football so mcuh and the player who made me support Liverpool
Thank you so much John
I look forward to that article ed001 whenever it is finish.

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19 Mar 2019 14:43:34
Thanks Ed001 no problem.

I agree Johncrow, great minds think alike. Barnes was an inspiration in so many ways. My first kit was a crown paints with 'Barnes 10' on the reverse. He had balance, close ball control which aided his dribbling ability to take on 2-3 players if not more. Immense strength, speed, free kick scoring ability, vision for a pass/ through ball, mental toughness which was needed at that time and especially needed in his case for the wrong reasons. Then of course the way he reinvented himself into central midfield after injury. In my opinion his ability was incredibly overlooked on a global level due to the European ban.
In my opinion a 'John Barnes' of the peak of playing career would not look out of place when talking about the usual twosome of Messi and Ronaldo. Would love to meet him in person some day and rap out world in motion.

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