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Edgar Davids

14 Nov 2018 18:08:08
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Edgar Davids

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14 Nov 2018 18:46:49
Awesome player wasn’t he, makes me wonder how Davids in his prime would be like in our current Liverpool squad, I’m sure he would get a game.

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14 Nov 2018 18:55:56
Great read, Ed. You took me way back with this one. I remember watching Edgard David (he had regular hair then) playing for Ajax with a certain group of youngsters like Dennis Bergkamp and Clarence Seedorf. That was in the 92/ 93 season. After he and that young Ajax team (Bogarde, Reiziger, Overmars, Finidi and of course, N****wo Kanu) won the CL in 1995 under LVG, High-spending AC Milan came and cherry-picked this team and Davids moved there. He had a horrible time and blew his knee out. Many thought he was lost until Marcelo Lippi came to the rescue and he became the Edgar Davids we would all know and love. That Ajax team was phenomenal and the amount of players they had who have gone on to become legends of the game or had great careers is astounding.

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14 Nov 2018 16:44:31
Hey ed01 this question is little different from usual. For the current team which player in the world will you add? for fellow reds too. I would like someone who runs at denfense like chamberlain but also can unlock defence at will.

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{Ed001's Note - had this exact same question yesterday mate, and I will stick with the same answer, N'Golo Kante. He is the best player in the world right now.}

14 Nov 2018 17:09:42
Here’s one on the opposite side then Ed. Which of the front 3 would you let go.

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{Ed001's Note - none unless they wanted to go.}

14 Nov 2018 17:35:32
A politicians answer lol.

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{Ed001's Note - it is not a question that can be answered any other way. There is no reason to get rid of any.}

14 Nov 2018 18:21:41
If you had to lose one though Is what I meant.

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{Ed001's Note - it is like asking you to choose between your kids! It would probably have to be Mane though.}

14 Nov 2018 18:39:02
'it is like asking you to choose between your kids'

Hahaha about right isn't it.

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14 Nov 2018 18:42:08
Mane for me as well.

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14 Nov 2018 18:47:48
I would lose Salah, but only for £250M and let Klopp find the next one.

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14 Nov 2018 13:13:36
On our new signings. Feedback welcomed.

Fabinho looks like a lovely player all beit, he is getting used to a different football culture, new language and climate etc. I think though, by looking at him in recent games he needs to improve his intensity, become more aggressive and improve on his overall decision making. My belief is he will compliment Trent well being a top class right back by trade knowing his responsibilities of covering when Trent advances which i saw a lot of against Fulham.

Shaqs looks like he could be another Coutinho type signing. Absolute steal in price, intelligent play making, amazing set piece taker and the luxury that he doesn't score 'normal' goals. The fact he cuts in and likes to shoot and the low center of gravity drew some similarities, difference only being the foot they generally like to play with.

Keita i've not seen enough of but, i was there for his debut i genuinely mean it when i say it was one of the best debuts from a player coming from another league that i've ever seen. He has been put on the left at times then injury struck. I feel, we will see the very best of Naby next season playing expansive box to box football and chipping in with a few goals.

Allison just looks assured, he fills me with confidence but more importantly those in front of him are assured to have him in between the sticks. Its no big coincidence we have the best deffence in the league this year, he has added calmness a long with excellent distribution at times. Last season had Alisson been in the team, he'd probably be on assist number 8 for the season. However the mutrity in our play this year will see more calmness and a more seasoned approach to his play.

Happy red at the minute, how could you not be? Rest assured this will be the biggest push for the title we have ever made, enjoy the ride!

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14 Nov 2018 14:44:41
Now that is the kind of post I enjoy reading, nice one Samuel, great post mate.

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14 Nov 2018 19:01:43
Brilliant post, OP and your assessment is very nuanced and cohesive. As Keita, I watched RBL a tonne last season and don't worry about him. If he shows anything remotely resembling the perfs. he was showing in the second half of last season (after a difficult first half) then you will love him. Take the RBL v Bayern for example. They had NO answer for him in the press cos he was all over the Bayern midfield and bursting forward with pace, power and precision in his decision-making in the final third. He scored the winning goal in a 2-1 win and Matts Hummels after the game, said that he had never seen a team press them that much in a game. When he gets up to speed, look out.

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14 Nov 2018 11:45:24
You like Ranieri, Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - He is a very nice guy.}

14 Nov 2018 19:02:02
A true gentleman.

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14 Nov 2018 11:46:08
sorry eds but i couldn't find the fulham game match review.
Could you please help me find out.

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{Ed001's Note - it is on the website as usual, if you miss the link you can always go direct to the site in future mate. Here is the link though for the actual review: Fulham match review

14 Nov 2018 18:28:09
thanks mate and btw i love reading your post match reviews.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much mate. That means a lot to know people enjoy them. Especially when it has been a bad game and I have to sit through it again, makes it worth doing.}

14 Nov 2018 10:36:25
Aah. Just watched us beating city toward the end of 13-14. Still bloody hurts ☹️.

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14 Nov 2018 08:39:48
Firstly if we see fault with our team, it dies not make us any less passionate or a fan than the next person.
Those that are saying we not playing as well as we should, are not saying we should go back to our strategy of last season. All we are saying is that we have drastically improved our defense and keeper, so if we played the attacking football of last season, or close to that, with some caution, we would be playing better. We not asking for 5-4 wins. We expressing that we are not playing to ALL our strengths yet.
If Sturridge didn't score that last minute goal against Chelsea, if Mahrez scored the penalty and if the goal Fulham scored stood (we have had bad decisions given against us) . We could be 5 points less. With potentially 3 losses. Chelsea and City could have 2 more points each as well. Now I'm not say this to say that we were lucky, my point of this is, woukd everyone still be happy if thise 3 things happened? Because honestly, that would put us in a position we were last season, when most were not so happy. I think Klopp also feels we need to improve in our attack.
Our "criticism" should not be taken as a negative vibe against the team, all we saying is we do need to improve in our midfield when we are attacked. And improve in midfeild and attack linking when we attack.

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14 Nov 2018 10:15:04
Lot of “ifs” there, you sound like an Everton fan, “if” this and “if” that.
You can say the same about any team in the league, games have fine margins, any team can have more or less points depending on small decisions, you’ve just decided to focus on all the occasions we got lucky, saying if we didn’t get that luck we would be lower down the table, you could quite easily look at all our games and pick out all the times we didn’t have luck and conceded or didn’t score and say we should be miles ahead. At the end of the day it’s the result at the end of the night that matters, over a season the good and bad luck evens itself out.
You can’t play defensive and attacking football at the same time it doesn’t work, if we played more offensive then the defence will suffer, we are grinding out results and that’s all that matters in a title challenge, we also have a brand new goalkeeper let's not put extra pressure on him by leaving him exposed.
this years football isn’t as fun to watch but looking at the league table makes up for that, it’s obvious the team is a lot more restrained so we last the distance in a title race.
Finally, seriously stop bloody moaning and support the team.

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14 Nov 2018 10:56:09
That's a good one, mikey! Totally agree with you. But I won't say watching Liverpool this season isn't as fun as the previous season. I would say different. I like it just as much.

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14 Nov 2018 12:26:39
I don’t think anyone would disagree that we’re far from on top form Andy. But anyone who’s been slammed for negativity is rightly so. We can express our concerns with team performances without moaning. Ultimately we are 2nd and 2 points off a fantastic city squad having already played them. We can spout luck all we want but there are zero grounds to moan about our current circumstances.

These moans would only be warranted if weren’t where we are. Be concerned, but don’t complain, do you think we could have started better honestly and realistically?

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14 Nov 2018 12:28:22
Almost every Arsenal game on their unbeaten streak has been a highly contested game that they could have easily lost or drawn. Yes we’ve had a couple of games where decisions have gone our way but the Arsenal game was an example of luck evening out. It’s fine to critique the team, but to suggest we don’t deserve to be where we are is simply untrue. Our performances haven’t been great all the time, but neither has any other team bar city. Reading some comments you’d think Arsenal and Chelsea were 10 points ahead of us.

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14 Nov 2018 13:20:13
All champions can mix it and be flexible like winning ugly or winning when not 100 percent as well as slicing teams open and showing class, i would rather be a team that can win in more ways than one than one that can only play one way an if it doesn't work we implode. That is what klopp is trying too work towards I think and maybe it had an impact on his working relationship wid buvac as last season an seasons before it was all guns blazing with no other method of play . I believe city are the best as they have adapted the quickest and the best under pep too all the qualities mentioned above we are learning on the job .

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14 Nov 2018 13:32:57
It's all a question of semantics and "perspective", in the end. By definition words like "better" and "worse" are always going to be subjective because everyone sees things in their own way, and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Some choose the high flying style of last year and some choose the methodical style of this year. And while some can argue that the points total thus far this year makes the team "better" than last years, some will bring up luck and slower "workmanlike" approach to playing and, therefore, a more boring and tedious style from the perspective of a fan/ viewer.

My view is that we must win the title. And I prefer to leave the style of play up to Mr. Klopp and his team. He knows best, simply because he's been placed in charge of making those decisions which result in the style of play we are using. I saw the high flying years of 13/ 14 and last year, and after not making it in the end, I will give Mr. Klopp and his team the option to choose whichever style he thinks is necessary to finally get over the hump this year.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the back and forth that is going on these pages. Everyone has their perspective. I'm simply leaving it up to the manager to do as he sees fit to win the title because that's what I trust his objective is (the same as mine) .

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14 Nov 2018 13:34:15
Luck usually evens itself out over the season. The table doesn’t lie and this season we have been the 2nd best team regardless of ifs and buts. If you’re not happy with the progress we have made I really have no idea what your expectation was? Break a new premier league record for points after 12 games? Key is to stay in the mix until after Xmas and then you’re in with a shout. Every team will go through a tough period. We may have just had ours and look where we are!

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14 Nov 2018 16:57:39
You have a valid point there Swishcleaner. Last year was one of surprises. Nobody expected us to threaten ManC the way we did or end up in the UCL final, and let's not forget about Klopp's 4th choice winger purchase ending up as Player of the Year. So last year's surprises created expectations for this year. The same type of play and better results because we reinforced weak areas. The results are better (mathematics and numbers don't lie) but the style of play has been different; mostly out of design by Klopp and the coaching staff. So people talk.

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14 Nov 2018 19:15:32
OP, using the if's and but's kind of defeats your whole theory I'm afraid. Had we scored all our chances vs Chelsea, we win the game, period. See, anyone can play that game. Those are hypotheticals and sorry, I do not live in that world cos you can use those to make any subjective point you want to make. I live in the here and now and right now, the table as someone said, does not lie. We are where we are cos we deserve to be there. NOBODY gave us anything. We have earned every point we have and the ones we don't have, we have not doe enough to earn them. That is how football and really, life works.

Now should we improve? Absolutely cos the issues are there for all to see. What does a lot of people's heads in is those moaning cos we did not pummel Fulham 5-0. That is where the moaners get no sympathy from me. They seem to forget that this is football, the PL where any given weekend, a big team can lose points or lose, period. Ask City (drew with Wolves) and Arsenal (who almost got embarrassed by same Wolves) or Spurs who struggled mightily vs Wolves and Palace. You have to go out there and compete and that is what we have done and will continue to do.

I also think people see our season thru the prism of what City is doing. It is a choice they have made for themselves so them moaning about stuff will be met with criticism cos we are LFC, not City. Klopp and LFC no longer need to prove that they can play fluid footie, score goals or pummel the best teams in all of Europe. It is time to WIN and Klopp is trying to do that and whatever decisions he makes that will help us get there, I am good with.

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14 Nov 2018 19:45:12
Is right BR.

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Review Of The Day 14th November 2018

14 Nov 2018 07:29:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 14th November 2018

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14 Nov 2018 07:33:27
Morning Ed, thank you mate hope you have a top day!

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate you too.}

14 Nov 2018 08:15:05
Morning Ed, cheers for that. I still can't believe this Scudamore payment, how warped are the teams views that they will pay this but money for grassroots has to be clawed out of them. Are they all likely to pay up or can they make an alternate donation to charity or something?

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{Ed001's Note - it looks like they will all pay to be honest. Madness.}

14 Nov 2018 08:19:33
BBC Sport reporting that the “rock, paper, scissors” was carried out at kick-off Ed, not to decide the tie?
A coin flip is 50 / 50 whereas rock, paper, scissors is 1 / 3?
I wouldn’t like to call that to decide a match result!

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{Ed001's Note - then they have changed their report as they had it as to decide the result of the match first thing this morning. As did a few other news outlets. I did think it was bizarre that they were deciding a result on that and not just settling for a draw.}

14 Nov 2018 08:27:04
That wouldn’t surprise me, BBC are poor these days.
I’ve seen reports on there with the “would of / could of” grammar.
Grrr I must be getting old because that winds me right up, haha.

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{Ed001's Note - agreed, they must have done what I did and read multiple reports saying the same thing and assumed. I thought the BBC must be safe to accept. Lesson learnt, not even the BBC are safe to trust!}

14 Nov 2018 08:42:18
TBH I have been finding the live text they do on some matches unbelievably biased based on the authors aleigances, it used to be much more black and white without opinions - and much better.

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{Ed001's Note - I think I am just going to avoid them from now on.}

14 Nov 2018 08:43:13
And their weather forecasts are rubbish these days too haha.

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{Ed001's Note - these days? Have they not always been rubbish?}

14 Nov 2018 08:43:58
Hey Ed001, thank you great read as always! Re the BBC Sport story, I did read it last night on the website and it said then it was to decide the kick off, and again this morning. They may have flip-flopped overnight, as I know you're a few hours ahead of us, Tris.

I actually can't see too much of a problem with rock/ paper/ scissors to decide the kick off (and it gave me a chuckle! ) . Its entirely based on chance, similar to the coin toss, and in fact introduces a bit of skill/ psyching out if it goes to more than one round!

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{Ed001's Note - they do change articles quite a bit I have noticed. I used to save articles during the day as I went, but then I would open them in the morning and it was completely different from the one I had read and thought about using. Suddenly it was a much less interesting story when they actually fact checked. However at least they fact check I suppose, which is a level above newspapers and other click bait.}

14 Nov 2018 10:17:42
Well done Snodgrass!

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14 Nov 2018 10:28:55
Great read as usual Ed001.And I'd watch more football if they introduced "rock, paper, scissors" as a decider for multiple types of decision. lol. Imagine signing someone because they were good at rock, paper, scissors. lol.

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{Ed001's Note - that would be great. If there is an argument over whose throw in it should be, a quick game would settle it.}

14 Nov 2018 21:22:14
Cheers for that ed, fair play to snodgrass. On the other end, shocking news about scudamore, I hope he gets back on his feet and brilliant to hear that his plight is not going unnoticed.

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14 Nov 2018 21:25:42
Morning Ed001 long time hope all is good mate. We really haven't clicked yet but still unbeaten not bad at all Ed👍.

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14 Nov 2018 21:27:34
Cheers Ed001, the Madrid youth coach role must be the most sought after in football for first time coaches. Seeing as you're immediately in with a chance of coaching the first team regardless of your experience or qualifications. Might get a lucky run of form and immediately be considered a "top coach" ala Zidane.

Joe Cole seems like a nice lad but why Liverpool ever signed him is beyond me. I understand his selling point was that he was 'incredibly skilful', but I can hardly remember him pulling off any. Only flash of brilliance I can remember from him is that world cup goal.

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14 Nov 2018 07:16:06
Interesting read the other day (can't remember where though-sorry) on how our points tally after this many games would have seen us top in something like 16 of the previous Premier League seasons.

What a position to be in.

I think most would agree, not firing on all cylinders yet, managing to rotate players and some suffering injuries- yet we are right up there.

Surely a positive.

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14 Nov 2018 19:20:04
OP, There was also a stat that showed that with the start LFC has made, they would be comfortably top of the league in 98 of the last 100 league campaigns. I do agree that we have to improve BUT we were in this position last season when we struggled BUT yet had 12 points less. The biggest improvement is that we have won games while at the
the hope is that when that finally happens, we will be even better.

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14 Nov 2018 06:34:46
Really enjoyed red kurds debate further down the thread. I personally feel you did a good job in expressing your thoughts.
It made for some good reading and also interesting to see other peoples thoughts.

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14 Nov 2018 07:26:04
Though conveniently forgets when luck has been against us - see arsenal game for example. Using Kurds points we would be level with city if Manes goal was allowed.

We have simply changed our style and people are expecting our style of last year. I believe klopp believes the only way we can beat city and Chelsea to the league is this change so I’m prepared to wait and see as only TWO points behind city at their best - I’d say Klopp has fixed the problem which was last year’s defence.

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14 Nov 2018 09:35:53
Jj I don't think that's a valid point

What abt mane kicking son last minute against spurs in our box? What abt Huddersfield penalty?

Ifs and buts don't work in footy. The truth is we need to improve performance wise if we are serious abt lifting our 1st Premier League title in 3 decades.

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14 Nov 2018 09:41:24
Tij - I did not foreget about our luck. But as you know luck either way can be decisive and my focus was on us being lucky against other twams which at times we relied on.

It is the same as if luck would have gone against us and we would have lost.
We juat need have been much better by now that we are 12 games in and we are not.

If you look at Arsenal, Chelsea and City have improved over their 12 games. We have not and we need to be.

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14 Nov 2018 10:14:58
manU were drivel last season but finished above us. I think we are over reacting about the performances. important yes, but the results matter the most. and as long as we are pulling those out, then we'll be ok.

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14 Nov 2018 10:42:52
Spot on Faithinworks 👍I second that results are more important then performance no doubt.

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14 Nov 2018 11:16:54
IFS and bits are great after the match sparks debate but next day move on to next game and forget about it.

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14 Nov 2018 19:30:57
If's and but's do absolutely nothing for me. Why? Cos they even each other out and what's that saying in football again, "You make your own luck". So by that notion, we are where we are cos we deserve to be there, give or take. The table does not lie. "Coulda/ Shoulda/ Woulda" is used in a mocking way in sports for a reason which is why athletes never use it cos it makes it look lik you are feeling sorry for yourself and making excuses. We know where we need to improve and we will do that, IMO. Also, talking about luck, luck is also defines as "a moment when preparation meets opportunity". Pick which ever definition please you BUT it will not change the fact that we deserve to be second and undefeated and 2 points off City. NOTHING and NOBODY can take these achievements away from us.

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