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21 Jan 2019 10:25:56
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21 Jan 2019 10:25:56
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21 Jan 2019 10:25:56
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21 Jan 2019 09:19:32
City's game against Arsenal and Chelsea are so important for us. It shows there strength that we will sit here an predict that they are favourites to win both but boy could we use a favour from the London boys. Im hoping with the fixture pile up and intensity required they might drop points in those back to back fixtures.

We have tough fixtures to contend with too during that time. Leicester have shown us they can beat top team and vardy always seems to score against us.

West ham away is difficult too. They've got a very decent team.

Excited and nervous for the gameweeks ahead.

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21 Jan 2019 09:57:48
Pakred, If we do our jobs, we won't need a favout from them. If you have not noticed, we have been going along nicely w/ o paying attention to City nor what they do and as soon as we went top by 1 point after the B'mouth win, City played Chelsea later and lost and they have been behind us ever since. They are the ones who blinked first, not us. The favor won't matter if we don't do our jobs first cos that is what you can control. Do I want a fav. from Arsenal and Chelsea? I mean, is gambling legal in Las Vegas? Of course, I do BUT it ain't going to matter if we don't take care of our business first. Also, the reason we are where we are is cos our boys are ALWAYS focused on the game in front of them and not bothered about anything else. Let them worry about us cos for them right now, any slip up from them (coupled with a simultaneous LFC win) could be the end of the road for them. Let them deal with that fear and pressure.

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Liverpool v Crystal Palace Match Review - A Liverpool Perspective

21 Jan 2019 09:30:18
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool v Crystal Palace Match Review - A Liverpool Perspective

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21 Jan 2019 10:06:11
Fair review ed. However, i do not get the sentiment of make shift defense. I donot get why we would play milner at RB against Zaha when we had fabinho who has played there before in the team. It should have been fab at rb and milner in the middle. couldn't get why keita was on the wings but he did OK. In the first half i couldn't get the formation and i don't think the team did either. As soon as it changed in second half mane got more involved and ran at them and bang goal goal goal. Of their goals i think that Tomkins goal was a pity. Ayew took out two of our player albeit illegaly but that should not happen especially with two of our biggest lads.

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Review Of The Day 21st January 2019

21 Jan 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 21st January 2019

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21 Jan 2019 07:38:00
Cheers Ed, have a good day mate!

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate, you too, and welcome back.}

21 Jan 2019 07:41:47
I see sarri going down mourinho road and criticise his players in public, and we know how that turned ou, he needs to be careful as there top 4 is looking in trouble.

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21 Jan 2019 08:08:16
Thanks very much Ed, much appreciated for you guys sorting that out.

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{Ed001's Note - no worries mate though it was Ed033 who did the work.}

21 Jan 2019 08:55:35
Sarri has made a huge gamble and dare I say, mistake with his public outburst, dissing the players and frankly, calling them weak and soft mentally. Let's be clear here. Calling a player weak and soft, is the worst thing you could ever call a player esp. when you do it in public. This is a huge mistake IMO, cos he is doing it at the wrong club. Managers at Chelsea are always the one to go when things go south whereas the players always remain. Mou (twice), Scolari, AVB have all bitten the dust and Sarri may be next.

Now in fairness to Sarri, his outburst did not jut come in a vacuum, IMO. He has seen what we all have been seeing with Chelsea for the past couple of months. They lack belief, motivation, and grit when they get challenged. Also, Sarri has made his own mistakes as well tactically cos he is a "my way or the highway" type coach where he forces his ideas on his players. I mean, every man and his dog knows Jorginho is crap and Kante is playing out of position to well, accommodate the crap player Jorginho. The players aren't buying into this and many other things and IMO, this will only end in tears.

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21 Jan 2019 00:30:16
After yesterdays 2 goals for Salah he is the 4th fastest PL player to reach 50 goals having played only 72 games (48 goals for liverpool, 2 goals at Chelsea) . His stats line up exactly with Fernando Torres first 50 PL goals. Question is, who would you prefer to have in your team? It would be interesting to hear Ed1 opinion on this, which player was more technically gifted or the better eye for goal etc. For me it has to be Torres, he was a sensation when he first joined. It was sad to see his decline so fast. Any opinions fellow reds?

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{Ed001's Note - there is no contest. Salah scored a large number of his goals from the wing, yet still scored at the same rate as Torres. He also offers flexibility. Technically there is little between them, but Salah has a slight edge in almost every area.}

21 Jan 2019 04:19:23
Very hard comparison as they've played in different teams with different players and different systems. For a couple of years, Torres was irresistible feeding off Gerrards crosses and technically superb. Mo, however, has flourished under Klopp with the likes of Mane and Firmino around him. Probably best to make the comparison once their careers have finished but Torres slightly shades it for me before he lost his pace.

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21 Jan 2019 04:50:36
Also important to note that the only reason they got to 50 in the same time was Salah' s Chelsea spell of 2 in 13 games. For Liverpool he has 48 in 59 which is frightening and quicker than Torres.

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21 Jan 2019 05:16:54
Im with Ed. Salah have quite some assists as well if Im not mistaken.

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21 Jan 2019 05:31:57
But Ed01, In my Opinion Salah doesn't have that Silky first touch which made Torres's style of play and finishing classy. Don't get me wrong I like Salah a lot, I think his main attribute is his 6th sense to be in the right position at the right time.

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{Ed001's Note - I think people are looking back at Torres all misty-eyed and forgetting what he was actually like. He was about lightning acceleration and strength. He may have looked more silky but that is just about looks, not actual ability. His skill was in getting the ball out of his feet quickly and hitting it early with a lot of power. In other words power and pace not finesse was Torres' main attributes. He did not have the ability to twist and turn in tight spaces like Salah can, because his touch was not as good as Salah's, he could not keep it tight to his feet and work magic the way Salah does.}

21 Jan 2019 06:46:23
48 in 59 is extraordinary.
For that remarkable statistic alone, it has to be Salah, though I agree with 01’s reasoning too.

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21 Jan 2019 07:12:24
Thanks for the reply ed1 and everyone else. Very interesting to see the comparison. I didn't realize he has 48 in 59 also. that's absolutely nuts.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate, and yes, his numbers for us are incredible, especially as he has played so many games on the wing for us.}

21 Jan 2019 07:14:34
Can we just agree to have both in our dream team? Plus Stevie and Alonso maybe? 😇.

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21 Jan 2019 08:20:22
One thing about Salah is he stays fit!

The only injury i can remember of his time with us so far is the dislocated shoulder. Apart from that, there has been no niggles or knocks i can think of.

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21 Jan 2019 08:37:57
salah for me, it doesn't change the fact that torres was good though, salah's record with us will beat so many records even in other clubs if he was in any other club, he's simply magnificent.

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{Ed025's Note - great player kaizer...pity about the diving though..

21 Jan 2019 09:08:52
Salah all day, man. 48 in 59 is in-freaking-sane numbers for 1 and a half seasons. Torres never matched those numbers esp. if you judge by the fact that Salah scored majority of his goals for the wing. Salah is the better player, all-round BUT I will say that Torres was boss as well cos he scored near ALL his goals from open play. No penalties and No free kicks. That is just as frightening cos we know CR7 scored near half his goals in the PL with penalties and free kicks. Great player and if we win the PL, he will be a KEY reason why.

As for the diving, he should stop doing that for sure BUT I think too much is being made of it really. Salah gets no credit for staying on his feet when challenged and the same media moaners say he should have gone down cos there was contact. Then, when he does go down with clear contact and a clear foul, they say he should have stayed on his feet and not dived or gone down easily. Again, MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!

The penalty vs Newcastle was a penalty cos it was reviewed and confirmed so non story there. The pens vs BHA and Arsenal were also correctly awarded. The flop vs Palace was him going down easily on the first challenge which to me, is not a dive. The only dive I saw vs Palace was from you guessed it, Zaha when he went down from a non challenge from Milner BUT hey, we know he is a serial diver so why bother talking about it?

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{Ed025's Note - talking of serial divers...salah is extremely talented as is tom daley..

21 Jan 2019 09:21:58
But does it count that I loved torres as i was younger and more emotional back then and him leave in the way he did made sure I could not love a player the same way again?

Hope you haven't jinxed it lamborini!

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21 Jan 2019 09:04:28
If only he was as good as Pickford eh Ed025.

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21 Jan 2019 10:06:38
Ed25, you prolly want to go find out what diving actually means. Diving means lunging forward. Never seen Tom Daley fall backwards like Salah did but I guess you have, lol. Seriously tho, Salah went down too easily and needs to quit that, ASAP. That said, All the three pen incidents were clear penalties and awarded as such even the one vs Newcastle was reviewed after the fact and confirmed BUT I guess that fact was missing in your response. I wonder why, lol?

If you are looking for divers in that game, Zaha is the ONLY one who dived blatantly with NO contact from Milner. And if you are looking for serial divers, you can always look up legends like Ali, Lamela Kane (so many from one club, really? ), Zaha, Vardy (esp. ) and Hazard (who dived again vs Arsenal BUT no one mentioned it) . Cheers, man.

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{Ed025's Note - i know what diving is brover...its CHEATING, there are loads of divers in the game and they are ruining the sport, salah is not the only one and the likes of zaha and even richarlison as well are bringing the game into disrepute and thats just naming three, they are falling over repeatedly to gain an unfair advantage and its actually practiced in training so a couple of pro,s i know tell me, its a very sad state of affairs and until the bungling neer do wells at the FA get a grip of it then it will continue to be a blight on this great game mate..

20 Jan 2019 19:55:43
I was at the game yesterday and in all the excitement and tension of the final few minutes I missed a significant incident which I have only just seen on the Sky re-run of the full 90 minutes. Rafa Camacho came on at right back for the final 2 or 3 added on minutes. After Crystal Palace’s 3rd goal, they had one final attack and the ball was worked out to Wilfred Zaha inside the penalty area and one-on-one with Camacho. He took Camacho on on the outside, like he had done successfully a few times against Millie, including the 1st Palace goal. If he had got past, he would have been through with a chance to shoot or cross. Camacho stayed on his feet, won the ball, Van Aanholt put the loose ball well over the bar and the game was won. Camacho can rightfully claim to have played an important part in a vital win. Nice one Rafa.

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20 Jan 2019 21:22:50
I always prefer we play a youngster in his favoured position than shoe horn an experienced player into a position he’s not comfortable in.

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20 Jan 2019 21:40:02
1985mikey - Camacho's not a right back. He's a winger that happens to be able to put a tackle in.

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20 Jan 2019 21:40:53
Didn’t Camacho play up front for the 23s last week? Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think his favoured position is right back?

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20 Jan 2019 21:41:04
Mikey, amazingly Camacho is actually a left winger predominantly!

Klopp has seen something in him as a right back though so fair play to him for repaying Klopp's faith so far.

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20 Jan 2019 23:17:45
Some of the worlds best RBs would get done by zaha whem he is in the mood.

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21 Jan 2019 03:38:19
Milner has played as a right back and right midfielder at various points in his career - I would hardly called it shoehorning him in. He had a mare though and got destroyed by Zaha who was himself excellent - glad Camacho was able to make a telling contribution, I think Klopp is mentioned it in one of his post-match interviews, so hopefully it gives the lad a boost.

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21 Jan 2019 05:27:03
Neither Milner nor Fabinho are able to counter that type of pace if at RB.
Leicester pose a similar threat too, though Milner is likely to miss that game now.
I definitely don’t want to see Fabinho at RB in this league *shudders*.

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21 Jan 2019 05:59:29
I think trent would be back for us against the foxes.

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21 Jan 2019 09:10:51
Mikey, Camacho is a natural winger so there goes your shoehorning argument.

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20 Jan 2019 18:04:33
If we manage to beat City to the title this season and it's a big if, it will be one hell of an achievement.

Watched the Huddersfield game and whilst they were always going to beat the Terriers, it's their bench that's full of talent!

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20 Jan 2019 19:19:59
Totally agree, simply put its the most expensive squad ever assembled in the Premier League. For anyone to go toe to toe with them takes some doing, but to keep up with City for goals scored is a hell of a task.

I know it's asking too much for people to see that Pep is painfully overrated, but it would be ever sweeter to see him finish without the PL or CL this season.

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20 Jan 2019 19:36:27
Deep pockets allows them that.

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20 Jan 2019 20:53:55
Has he ever managed a team without deep pockets. Yes he's a really good manager there's no question but I'd like to see him manage a team like Everton and see where he gets.

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20 Jan 2019 21:42:14
Everton just bought Richarlison for £50mil and Sigurdsson for £40mil. They’ve got more money than sense!

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20 Jan 2019 22:27:43
Pep couldn't achieve with our current group what klopp is but what klopp could achieve over there in scary.

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{Ed0333's Note - that’s hypothetical mate. How do you know Pep couldn’t be top of the league with Liverpool’s squad?

20 Jan 2019 23:01:48
I LOVE Klopp however I have no doubt Pep would be successful wherever he goes he is simply the best manager in world right now. Don't get me wrong I wouldn't change klopp and he is up there which would make it even more or an achievement if we do make it to the promised land. Simply that city squad pound for pound is probably the best in the world.

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{Ed0333's Note - Brendan Rogers takes umbrage at you calling pep the best coach in the world.

20 Jan 2019 23:11:03
Would or could Pep do what Rafa did and stay with a team through relegation and bring them back up again, on a limited budget?
He probably could, but I doubt he would.

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20 Jan 2019 23:58:04
True dat Bobby 🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♂️.

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21 Jan 2019 03:11:26
Yes Pep has had enormous funds at his disposal, but you still need to select the right sort of players, instill the club with a style of play and culture, deal with the egos etc.

I think Klopp is absolutely perfect for us but it’s not fair to say Pep wouldn’t have done well at Liverpool or to assume what he achieved last season was easy.

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21 Jan 2019 03:24:00
Ah begs the question, would pep have settled for a 7 million pound lb from hull, Trent at rb, Gomez at cb, Milner/ hendo&wij in the middle.

Shaqiri and mahrez were both avaliable in the summer for pretty much the same role in the team. He splashed 70 mil on his super sub.

So if had of demanded better (at the time transfers) then he might be top of the league but not with the squad klopp has.

We can guarantee foden would be starting over there though with klopp!

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21 Jan 2019 09:19:35
Not sure Pep would have taken the Dortmund job in 2008 when they were totally crap, a complete basket case the same way Klopp did and turned them into the most feared side in the Bundesliga and one of the most feared sides in Europe at the time. That I'm afraid, would never have happened. Also, not sure Pep would have taken the LFC job with the mess we were in after BR got the boot, the same way Klopp did and turned us into what we are today. That much is true.

Now does that mean Klopp is better than Pep? No. Does Pep achieving as much as he has with deep pockets mean he is better than Klopp? IMO, No. Why? Look at their beginnings. You cannot compare the two cos Klopp rose from the depths of Bundesliga 2 to get where he is while Pep grew up in the coaching ranks with a silver spoon in his mouth, managerially speaking. In that sense, I would take Klopp over Pep any day cos he fits what we are as a club and City: Grit, fight, determination working class attitude etc.

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20 Jan 2019 17:56:29
Can any ed help here
during the time when stubbs and mcateer were linked with us is true
A that stubbs turned us down for Blackburn and B true that mcateer chose us over arsenal and C did Collymore come to us even though he was offered more money elsewhere at the time?

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{Ed001's Note - Stubbs did turn us down, not for anyone else, just turned us down as he was an Evertonian and did not want to join us. McAteer was desperate to join us and rejected a couple of other offers. We were the only team to meet the ludicrous asking price for C****more.}

20 Jan 2019 18:05:16
As always mate thank you for very swift reply
Mcateer just went up in my estimation lol.

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{Ed001's Note - it was a dream come true for him and he was never going to go anywhere else if we were interested.}

20 Jan 2019 18:47:28
It always makes me cry every time I bring this fact up.

We signed Collymore for £9 million in the same transfer window that Arsenal signed Bergkamp for £8 million.

Oh no, I'm filling up again. :' (.

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20 Jan 2019 18:59:21
Ed001, can you imagine what a Bergkamp/ Fowler partnership would have been like?

You have to remember that it was Bruce Rioch that signed Dennis. It's not like he signed because of the manager's reputation.

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{Ed001's Note - Bergkamp would have been sensational for us.}

20 Jan 2019 19:57:46
Bergkamp would have been sensational kicking a tin can around in the park, once of the best players to ever step on to a football pitch.

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20 Jan 2019 20:11:23
There’s an inevitable element of hindsight to this debate though, even though I don’t disagree with the ultimate assessment.
Bergkamp had flopped badly in Italy (Inter if I recall) and it subsequently took him a long while to settle in at Arsenal.
Whilst, conversely, Collymore’s star was very much on the rise and he looked a good buy, the modern striker full of pace and power.
But it went downhill from there, his own problems alas.

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20 Jan 2019 20:13:29
always a red - exactly why I cringe every time I hear Collymore's name. How different it could have been.

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20 Jan 2019 20:33:04
The Juicer - It always makes me wonder if part of a medical should include an assessment of a player's mental health and maybe a personality profile.

I've gone for so many interviews and had to fill out so many questionnaires to try to profile my personality. If such a thing was in practice (I know it was a different era, and I wouldn't like a simple questionnaire being used but more a personal one on one assessment) surely if both Bergkamp and Collymore were profiled, we'd have signed the former instead. We can talk about hindsight all we want but if players were assessed on a psychological level as well as physical, unless the psychological expert was a complete imbecile, we'd never have signed Collymore.

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20 Jan 2019 20:51:12
Collymore was immense, him and fowler the season they had together were just mouth watering. Just a shame collymore was and still is a complete bell end.

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20 Jan 2019 21:20:31
Pegleg - I know it's a bit of a taboo to talk about, but I don't think Collymore is right in the head. Hence my reasoning to bring up mental health and the debate of whether the club should be screening for it.

Of course Stan has never been in the news about sectioning or anything, but Aaron Lennon and Steven Caulker (just to pick 2 out of the hat) have had problems. Maybe it should be part of the medical.

We're really deviating from the point here though. I simply commented about Collymore being a preferred signing opposed to signing Dennis Bergkamp, and we've gone way off tangent, which is my fault entirely.

But like I said, it still pains me that we signed Stan as opposed to Dennis (for more money) .

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20 Jan 2019 21:48:07
I’ve spoken to McAteer about the day he signed for us. He was in a meeting with Dalglish at Blackburn as we hadn’t come in for him so he was about to sign for them. Next thing his agent has taken a call and told him Roy Evans wanted to see him as Liverpool had agreed a fee with Bolton. He explained this to Kenny and said he wanted to speak to Liverpool. Kenny told him if he leaves his office the deal is off, so he grabbed his coat and made his way to Liverpool!
He also said he got into loads of trouble with Bolton for celebrating with the league cup after we beat them at Wembley! 😂 Quality!

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20 Jan 2019 23:57:32
Loved MacAteer and MacMannaman overlapping, must of been a nightmare to defend against.

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20 Jan 2019 16:39:02
Not just Liverpool related, but related to the whole of league football in general. I just thought I'd ask here as Ed002 is the most knowledgeable person I know of who could answer it.

It was discussed on Soccer Saturday but no-one knew the answer. When someone gets fined by the FA (e. g. Troy Deeney getting fined £20,000 for criticising a referee - which seems a bit harsh), where does the money go? Does it go to charity? Grass roots football? Or does it just line the pockets of already wealthy people?

Surely the FA should be open about where this money goes.

Thanks in advance Ed002, or anyone else has any information about the subject.

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{Ed002's Note - The FA are open about it, it simply goes in to the pot as income. I answered this a couple of weeks ago.}

20 Jan 2019 17:16:57
Thanks for taking the time Ed002. I didn't see the post a couple of weeks ago.

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{Ed002's Note - No problem.}

20 Jan 2019 21:57:22
It always makes me uncomfortable when organisations use fines to subsidise income. It’s so open to abuse when it’s in their interests financially to fine someone.

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{Ed0333's Note - same principle with councils when they issue tickets for speeding and parking. Hate that.

20 Jan 2019 15:58:10
Ed001, what are your thoughts on Alex Pritchard?

He looks like he's too good for the Championship but he doesn't seem to get the links away (or plaudits) Mooy is getting despite being a better player in my opinion.

You'd think a team like Newcastle, Palace, Cardiff or Southampton could benefit from his invention as well as his link up play, and they all have a better chance of survival. It always seems to be the guys putting them in the net getting praised and not the players running the because that can't be drastically analysed. A bit like how De Bruyne took all the praise away from Silva last year.

Just wondered how you rated him. Seems a tidy player.

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{Ed001's Note - he is a tidy player but he can be a little lightweight and not a bruiser like Mooy, so he is not going to be liked by 'proper football men' in the media. They like physicality and obvious work rather than clever work off the ball. Pritchard could defo step up a level in my opinion, he just needs better quality around him to feed off his play.}

20 Jan 2019 16:52:16
Cheers Ed, just wanted to check I didn't have MOTD fever 😂 Shame English football is so poor at recognising these things.

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20 Jan 2019 13:51:31
Is it just me or do huddersfield seem to have justwritten off this game which is very poor.

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20 Jan 2019 14:58:10
Not really, they are doing the best they can with what they have against a world class team. It's not in their interest to bomb forward and get beat 9-0, what's best for Liverpool FC does not, and should not come in to the thinking of Huddersfield Town FC. Why would it.

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20 Jan 2019 15:17:55
I never really expected to put up any kind of challenge in this game. I think they'll be happy if they don't concede more than 3 goals today.

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20 Jan 2019 15:18:07
Now to be fair Huddersfield are rock bottom, have scored the least goals in the league and are without a manager, an upset against the Man City juggernaut was never on today.

City won't win all of their remaining games I'm sure, so let's just hope we keep on keeping on and hopefully not let Peps inflated ego get even more out of control with another league title.

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20 Jan 2019 15:33:40
Mounie could've had a hat trick at the end there 😂.

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20 Jan 2019 23:58:04
Spot on king.

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21 Jan 2019 09:23:05
Hudd had no chance in this game. They knew it and so did City hence, it was like a training match where City just did the basics, knowing the win would be theirs at the end. Even if Hudd had say equalized, nothing would have changed cos all City would do is up the tempo, get into another gear, and normal service would resume. City just paced themselves cos they have a hectic schedule coming up.

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