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20 Oct 2018 06:57:07
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19 Oct 2018 18:43:19
Not specifically Liverpool related but a discussion we were having in the pub earlier regarding contracts. Do you think it would make it more interesting if a player has to play the length of their contract. They can't be offered an extension by their current club, no one can bid for them but in the last month of their contracts they can listen to offers from both their current team and other teams. It was such an interesting debate that I thought I would bring it on here. It would certainly be entertaining in their last month and no drama throughout the contract so I'm for it in that sense, but players don't settle straight away, whether it be location, don't gel with the other players so I'm against it for that, but the more I think about it, the more I'm conflicted about the idea, just wanted to know what others think.

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19 Oct 2018 19:55:34
No way. Some players never get used to some styles, some players never hit the expectations and they will be stuck for years in a club they don't play. Aswell some people don't get on and they will be stuck tigether aswell. One big NO from me.

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19 Oct 2018 19:53:08
I see what you mean Welsh, it is a decent theory, it would work and it would have a subtle change on football that would completely change the feel of transfer season as most contracts run until the summer.


I quite like the transfer season, it is mental, everyday we are full of hope as we chase players, are linked with top stars and sign underwhelming players. Near on everybody didn't want AOC but now we love him. I wish he was available for selection, I think fekir was an Ox replacement. We need that driving forward, milner and Keita have a good go but the ox has quick feet and good end product. I think mo salah is missing him big time.

At the end of the day, we don't want players who don't want to be here. They seem to develop bad backs.

Footballers are the modern day circus. These kids leave home at 12 and never really settle in one place. They are constantly travelling with the circus from match to match. Let's not make them prisoners.

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19 Oct 2018 20:50:11
There are so many other ways the transfer market reforming other than this.

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19 Oct 2018 21:27:06
What happens when a club sacks Sam Allardyce and brings in Marco Silva? You’re stuck with hoof-ball players on a 5 year contract under a manager who wants football players. Daft idea that could never work.

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{Ed025's Note - or you could end end up with 10 jordan hendersons KK....where the ball would never cross the half way line...what a nightmare!!..

19 Oct 2018 22:16:33
Think you would see a lot more 1 or 2 year deals. Also if I was a player I wouldn't want that kind restriction.

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19 Oct 2018 22:41:43
I think you would see a lot of 12 month rolling contracts which would lead to player be more transient. The club have a lot less assets but maybe it would be a good thing for football.

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19 Oct 2018 17:59:26
Xabi Alonso- 'Tackling is not a quality it is a last resort'

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19 Oct 2018 19:53:20

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19 Oct 2018 20:50:48
He will make a good manager if he wants it IMO.

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19 Oct 2018 21:22:45
Paolo Maldini - “If I have to make a tackle then I have already
made a mistake. ”.

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Southampton v Bournemouth Preview 20 October 2018

19 Oct 2018 15:28:35
{Ed's Note - figodasilva has posted a new article entitled, Southampton v Bournemouth Preview 20 October 2018

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19 Oct 2018 19:57:00
Bournemouth are flying, they could do a "Watford" I tell you, the team that worries me other than city and chelski is wolves. They will be challenging in 5 years, it could be much sooner.

I have a feeling saints will do it. A bit of a Derby, I think ings will click, you're right ed01, their defence needs sorting, sparky is not the man to do it imo, attacking manager.

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19 Oct 2018 21:02:59
If wolves have a good season all their best players will be picked off by bigger teams and they will struggle to break out of mid table medriocrity.

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19 Oct 2018 13:17:37
Now the dross of the International football is behind us ( for now) it's back to business and we need to get back to winning ways, starting 5.30pm tomorrow.

Chelsea could easily drop points against those lot along the M62 so it's a real chance to get her momentum again!

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19 Oct 2018 18:52:22
yes, chelsea game has a good chance of being a draw, we need the 3 points more than ever, with injuries and poor form from our midfield and more so our 3 forwards,
I must add that its only a matter of time that Salah and Co, kick into gear,
then some team will get a good beating .

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19 Oct 2018 20:00:39
They need to start passing to one another. Fino could have scored if salah had passed. There have been many times that mane should have passed to mo but didn't.

They need to forget about golden shoes, forget about the presure of being "the best front three in Europe" just look for red shirts.

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19 Oct 2018 22:19:09
We need the 3 points more than ever? Hahahaha how many times we going to say that this season!

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Review Of The Day 19th October 2018

19 Oct 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 19th October 2018

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19 Oct 2018 08:14:54
The joe hart training ground? Sounds like somewhere they built just to try and make him half decent.

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{Ed001's Note - they failed then...}

19 Oct 2018 08:42:08
Cheers ed, good read. For a split second, having read firmane’s coments before the article, I thought Bielsa had given money to his old club and they had named it the Joe Hart trading ground 😂🙈. Nice touch by him though, it’s good when these guys give back, especially to an area of no doubt quite severe deprivation.

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{Ed001's Note - if more people did that then the game would be much more competitive.}

19 Oct 2018 09:33:15
Thanks very much Ed, have a good one mate.

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{Ed001's Note - you too mate.}

19 Oct 2018 09:37:06
Thanks Ed for update. Nice touch that by Bielsa, so much to like about that guy. I think Everton should buy Bolt. He fits their winger profile. Headless chicken that's quick as fk.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate. Gotta love Bielsa, mad but great.}

19 Oct 2018 10:05:30
I wonder how much David Bernstein gives to charity out of the exorbitant salaries he’s earnt over the years. That is effectively what he is asking the Premier League to do. While it would be nice for the Premier League to give money to the lower end of football, and possibly even to its long term benefit in terms of player development, it’s still a business at the end of the day.

Look at Bielsa giving back to his old club. Lovely and a very nice gesture, but how many rich people do this, in general? Just because people have an emotional connection to the product, people think they have a right to decide how it is run. The rich giving to the poor seldom happens enough in real life, why should football be any different?

Cheers Ed, have a good day.

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{Ed001's Note - it is not really charity for the Prem to improve facilities for grassroots. It is in their interests to bring kids into the game.}

19 Oct 2018 10:31:32
Thank you Ed, love the Bielsa story. Good for him. Have a great day.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

19 Oct 2018 10:32:51
I agree to a point ed, but when you can go around the world and for your talent then its not so vital to bring British kids through, especially when already making a profit. But also, my main point on that is that if the FA wasn’t so badly run then they wouldn’t have to get miffed about the Premier League hoarding all the dough. They’d be able to utilise their assets better. It’s like the government selling off our transport and utilities networks (and the rest) then complaining when the new companies do the minimum needed to complete their duties while still managing to turn a profit which then leaves the country anyway.

There are so many reasons why it would be good for them to do more, but what do people really expect? There is no obligation for it.

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{Ed001's Note - that is not a good comparison. It was the EFL that was in charge of the league before it became the greed is good Premier League. The FA never sold it off. The FA are the governing body and should be taking a %age off the Prem to give to grassroots as a matter of course.}

19 Oct 2018 11:32:05
Ok, fair enough. The last part is a good point and sort of what I mean by being badly managed by not doing their job properly and using the Premier League for a scapegoat. If they have the power to take a levy then they should do it, for sure. You just can’t expect that any business would voluntarily give money away to what is not obviously or instantaneously beneficial to them. I can’t blame the Premier League in the football greed debate. It should be the people who allow capitalism to have no limits who are at fault and rich people like Bernstein having a go at the capitalist machine is a bit contradictory, in my view.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't think the FA can force them, there is already an ongoing power struggle between clubs and UEFA, the governing bodies are sadly having to tread lightly. They should be in complete control for it to work effectively.}

19 Oct 2018 12:41:29
Cheers Ed001, love a good Bielsa story, would expect nothing else from the great man. I recently read a Benjamin Mendy quote on him about their time at Marseille together that illustrates his obsessive nature but also innate understanding of players mentality (apologies for its length) .

"He made me devour videos like never before. To begin with he put me in front of the videos and I'd fall asleep. But he was happy! I was shocked. After a while I stopped sleeping and told myself go on, I'll watch two minutes of this thing after all. After that he talked to me, I talked to him and we'd go over moves together. He told me, see, that's why I let you sleep. You slept, you slept, you slept but the day you decided to watch you got interested on your own. If I'd pushed you to watch you wouldn't have been interested. Marcelo is just too good. "


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{Ed001's Note - he is a very clever coach.}

19 Oct 2018 13:56:23
Shame. In theory, minus the lawsuits etc, would it be legal for the FA to disband the PL or at least ignore its validity in England? Not that they should, just do they actually have any power that they can wield? I just don’t understand how an organisation who can supposedly control and govern football in this country can have such little influence in real terms. Why, for example, should a newly introduced operators license linked to income of a footballing entity not be possible? Surely they have to take their own piece of the pie somehow.

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{Ed002's Note - Why would the FA wish to disband the Premier League?}

19 Oct 2018 15:07:32
I didn't imply they would. I was asking if they could. I was trying to ascertain how much power they actually have.

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{Ed002's Note - The question makes no sense and is not a measure of power the FA has.}

19 Oct 2018 17:44:04
Nice work Ed, great write up as always, pleasure to read them on my break.

I'd love to hear your views on how a Sporting Director/ Director of Football etc, could or should work modern football?

We've seen so many examples of it failing for various reasons and a few notable success stories (Sevilla under Monchi etc) .

Would be great to hear your views. Perhaps one for an article?

Cheers in advance.

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{Ed001's Note - I have added it to the to do list for you mate.}

19 Oct 2018 19:40:26
That'd make a very interesting article actually RD, good suggestion mate.

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18 Oct 2018 23:27:11
What happened to divock origi eds I thought he had potential when he came here are Everton after him is he just not good enough.

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{Ed001's Note - he just never got the run of games he needed to really develop and had a few issues on loan.}

19 Oct 2018 05:38:23
Shame about the lad, I don't know what went on in the background but I really thought he'd make it with us. Same goes for Solanke though, still very young of course but will he make it with us? I have my doubts personally. I think both players have a lot to offer but who you going to take off for one of them? that's the biggest issue imo especially when you have an in form Sturridge on the bench, the poor buggers don't stand a chance, just bad timing because of how quality the squad is at the moment.

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{Ed001's Note - the issue with Origi is his loan move did not work out, for a number of reasons. That has left him on the outside looking in.}

19 Oct 2018 05:55:09
I've seen a few reports recently, he's being linked with a few clubs what are apparently interested, do you know of any truth to this rumour mate? sounds like he's on his way out to me, which tbh sounds like the best course of action for both the club and the player.

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{Ed001's Note - we tried to sell him in the summer and he is still available. Though they are not against the right loan either.}

19 Oct 2018 06:05:02
Interesting, thanks very much Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - personally I would look to sell Solanke of the two, but there you go.}

19 Oct 2018 06:24:28
I'd agree with that because I see Origi being a good player given half the chance (which he's never going to get at Liverpool), he certainly has the potential there as does Solanke, just not for us.

I must admit though, seeing the youngsters fail at our club really does do my head in a bit because so many of them never get the chance they deserve, having said that, when you have a quality squad like ours, how can they get their chance. We have young Wilson out on loan who looks very good but would he get anywhere near our team? I highly doubt it. Fingers crossed for him, he is one I have high hopes for. Time will tell I suppose.

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{Ed001's Note - I personally think Solanke was a mistake. He is a good player but I see nothing in him to suggest he is good enough for Liverpool.}

19 Oct 2018 07:11:03
Have to feel sorry for both players there careers are just put on hold for maybe years. Think you have to be very special to be able get into forward position at the club.

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19 Oct 2018 08:18:57
Think we could use Origi as cover for the wings (I’m sure I read once that that’s his preferred position) . I still think the lad has something to offer.

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19 Oct 2018 15:11:32
I think it was you Ed001 who said something similar to this and best describes the Solanke situation. While playing with the second teams and/ or U18's or U23's, he was physically intimidating and imposing and could therefore be effective. But at the highest level, everyone is physically at a similar or superiror level and he is consequently having the adaptation problems.

Since we are on the subject of physical presence and development, Ed001, do you think Woodburn is having similar problems? Is his growth affecting his ability to play football with the same effectiveness as when he first played games for the first team as a 17 year old? Just wondering.

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{Ed001's Note - yes it was me about Solanke but I don't see the same issue with Woodburn who was always small.}

19 Oct 2018 15:58:47
Thanks Ed001 👍.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome. It is, imo, probably why Woodburn has had to develop such good technical skills and tight control. He has always been small and slight, so can be knocked about and needs the ability to keep hold of the ball while being knocked all over the place. It should help him in the future.}

19 Oct 2018 17:52:19
Sure, Ed001. We've seen examples of small scrawny kids (Messi, Zico and Zola come to mind) who developped enough technical skills to be able to overcome their physical "disadvantages".

Do you think Keita is too small for the EPL? Seen him get pushed around and off the ball, a bit.

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{Ed001's Note - no I don't. He is a similar physique to Kante, small but wiry. Even so, if you are not prepared to face the physicality present, it can take time to adjust. I think he will be fine, once he does adjust.}

19 Oct 2018 18:58:39
I thought that when we got both Kieta and Fabino, the midfield would be sorted, but I didn't factor in the adjustments the Ed has mentioned, but they will come good, both are great players .

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19 Oct 2018 19:45:59
Keita seems to be struggling to adapt a little bit but what a bloody player he is, I've seen enough of him to know he will make it here, I see him being just as good as the best (Kante) . As everybody knows, it can take a player upto even a couple of years to adapt to a new club/ league, I don't think it'll take that long for Keita, I reckon by the end of the season people will be looking at him and saying 'wow' because he is capable of greatness.

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18 Oct 2018 19:50:22
Not been on for a while Ed. Sorry if I've missed all the posts covering it but how's our injury crisis in reality? No Mane, Keita, Salah, van Dyke?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any injury crisis. Mane has hurt his thumb but that does not impact his game. Keita has an issue the club has yet to comment on. There is nothing wrong with Salah or Van Dijk.}

18 Oct 2018 21:40:21
The fans are having a crisis about an injury crisis that is not a crisis.
Our squad this season has a lot of quality in depth, even if all them players missed a game we have the quality in reserve for it not to matter too much.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree mikey, and your next 2 opponents are very easy meat..

18 Oct 2018 22:34:06
Van Dyke? Is she in the women’s team?

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18 Oct 2018 23:31:44
I didn’t know Dick’s nephew had signed for Liverpool.

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19 Oct 2018 06:12:06
Great. So if both our matchday keepers sustain an injury in the 90 minutes, we can't put Mane in goal. Sounds like potentially a major crisis there.

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{Ed001's Note - argggghhhhh!!!!! Now I am panicking, quick call the FA and arrange an emergency loan of 7 goalkeepers for the bench....}

18 Oct 2018 14:13:48
How's the article comparing our current squad with the 08/ 09 squad coming along Ed?
Can't wait for the game on the weekend, feels like this international break has gone on forever again!

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{Ed001's Note - do you mean this one?

18 Oct 2018 15:42:07
Great article Tris.

We will no doubt be accused of having failing memories (esp you :-P) but I can honestly say I've not felt as confident watching us play as I vaguely remember I did during the end of our golden era. Given I Was 13 when we last won the league, those memories are very hazy, but this confidence in the team is both very satisfying and a little bit scary!

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{Ed001's Note - agreed mate, it does feel like the closest to glory since that time.}

18 Oct 2018 17:04:53
Fantastic article Ed001, really enjoyed that. I think in sports in general, but particularly football, people tend to look at era’s with rose tinted glasses. But I thought you were fair throughout.

I’d probably go with Robertson over Aurelio as I have a hard time looking past his fitness issues, but as you aptly pointed out this was a comparison between the teams at their best. I mentioned the other day that I thought the biggest difference between the squads was the quality in wingers, really just goes to show. Though I do wonder what Torres could have done with better service. Would love to have Gerrard and Xabi in the current squad.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, glad you enjoyed. It was hard choosing between them but today's team is a whole squad of quality whereas that was 7or 8 and then fillers.}

18 Oct 2018 17:12:11
Thanks Ed! Don’t know how I missed that, have a good one.

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{Ed001's Note - I did it during the international window so it wasn't long ago.}

18 Oct 2018 17:51:40
Nabil El Zhar scored recently in Leganes 2-1 win over Barcelona. I was surprised to see that he is still playing.

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{Ed001's Note - he has scored a few recently, it woke me up as well, I had completely forgotten about that waste of money. He was one of our highest paid players ever when we signed him.}

18 Oct 2018 18:01:33
Was this article posted up on the site Ed because I don't remember it mate? maybe it's just old age and I've already forgot about it! Either way, fantastic article as always, keep them coming mate, quality.

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate, well I posted it on the thread that reminded me about it, I don't know if the autolink generated as well. Maybe it didn't work then, I never thought to check.}

18 Oct 2018 18:11:17
Really enjoyed that. Thanks edd 1 bravo.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers neggy glad to hear that. Though that was a positive comment be careful!! ;-)

18 Oct 2018 18:26:51
Ah it might be just me not remembering Ed mate lol memory like a sieve at times!

I must ask Walter, are you feeling well? a positive comment! does this mean we're changing you mate? slowly but surely making you into a believer! ;)

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18 Oct 2018 20:01:16
Hi Ed001, I know that Kuyt isn't a quality player, but he makes up for it with his working off the socks and has some good finishing skills. I would also think that Benyaoun is another good small player.

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{Ed001's Note - Benayoun was excellent but Rafa kept him on the fringes of the team far too much, understandable as his best position was off the striker and Gerrard played there. If Gerrard hadn't thrown his toys out of the pram about playing on the right, where he had his best season, then Benayoun would have played behind Torres and excelled more I think.}

18 Oct 2018 20:22:40
Loved Benayoun as a player. Not only his talent and ability BUT most of all, his work rate, work ethic and relentless attitude to the cause. Great player and a gentleman.

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18 Oct 2018 20:46:11
Brilliant stuff ed, can't wait to read it. Thank you very much.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

18 Oct 2018 21:00:24
Very interesting article, thanks Ed001.
I missed that first time around too somehow.
One thing not mentioned, in favour of the 09 team, was a more even spread of goals around the respective teams.
09’s defence scored a very decent amount, whilst Gerrard in midfield was a huge contributor.
Our team now is very reliant on the front three, as we’ve seen. We really need the other parts of the team to start adding goals too.
Having said that, today’s team is chock full of pace all over, and I think they’d be too much for the 09 boys perhaps.

Add Gerrard, Alonso and Torres to today’s squad and it could well win the League.
Or add Van Dijk, Mane and Salah to 09’s and that would have too!?
Hey ho.

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{Ed001's Note - let's hope we have enough to win it without those 3.}

18 Oct 2018 21:29:51
Brilliant read and analysis, Ed. I had posted on an earlier thread on this same issue and w/ o even blinking, I said that this team is better than the '09 team, hands down esp. now that we have a better GK, defence and depth in the team. However, the way you analysed both team (awash with pace) in the article was pin-point and bar the midfield (no one can argue with Xabi and SG) of the 0'09 team, Klopp's team is way better in near every other dept. I mean, imagine Carra, Skrtel, Hyppia (the later two were great), going against the relentless movement and guile of Salah, Bobbie and Mane? That would be epic.

Also, Rafa only had Utd to contend with, just as BR only had City to contend with and they screwed up mainly due to their arrogance and ego (esp. BR) BUT the bar is WAY higher for Klopp now cos he has near 4 teams to contend with hence, his margin for error is minute. Hope he can succeed were the others failed. YNWA!

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{Ed001's Note - 4 teams? Surely it is only City to contend with?}

18 Oct 2018 22:32:11
City, Chelsea. and ourselves as our main challenges to the title in my opinion. If we keep our heads and teams start attacking city I think we’ll be grand. Could be a great season. Regardless, second season in a row with heart in my mouth - that’s what football is about.

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18 Oct 2018 22:54:36
Not sure if it was mentioned when comparing now with 08/09, after 8 games we were joint top with Chelsea on 20 points and united were on 14 points, just one more point than they have now.

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18 Oct 2018 23:33:11
Showed how hood rafa was though! Love the bloke.

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18 Oct 2018 22:41:50
What a brillant read ed.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you Para.}

19 Oct 2018 06:37:39
The 4-1 win at Old Trafford was great but the 11 draws did for us that season which I guess shows the lack of squad depth and maybe Rafa’s tactics were slightly more defensive because of this . think we started and ended the season great but struggled to cope with champions league and domestic cups along with league fixtures
Will be interesting to see if Klopp can manage this better squad effectively through the season.

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{Ed001's Note - Rafa's tactics were defensive because that is the way Rafa plays, nothing to do with squad depth.}

19 Oct 2018 06:59:58
I was trying to be generous to him . great coach bit overly defensive.

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{Ed001's Note - I love Rafa, but, no matter how generous you can be, he blew that season by being too defensive at the start.}

19 Oct 2018 10:19:55
do you not view chelsea as a threat this year ed?

great article, i absolutely loved torres, was my favourite player just as i was really getting into football. the way he moved with the ball was fantastic. thanks for the reminder about degen and el zhar, had finally managed to forget about them!

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{Ed001's Note - to us, yes, but they are playing for second or third imo.

Degen was an embarrassment.}

19 Oct 2018 11:57:07
Lol Rafa had a tendency to really pull out shocker, remember the Paulsen old man from Juve, Veronin and his ponytail and the Serbian guys who played on the left. It does make me wonder as a lot where so called free agents or low profile transfer that can be seen as alternative for primary targets. My main question is now that Mr Mou is self distructing with signings that don't make sense and Rafa having a history of making it publicly known when he feels he isn't backed, how similar are the two men as managers as they seem to have a lot of common things besides Real Madrid and Inter.

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{Ed001's Note - wasn't Poulsen signed by Hodgson?}

19 Oct 2018 12:59:48
yes he was a hodgson signing.

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19 Oct 2018 19:22:55
Spot on, Squizza. Rafa's defensive nature cost us the league that season, end of. I have NEVER bought the whole schstick/ excuses about the owners stifling him (which was true to an extent) and not letting him buy players. He bought a whiole bunch of dross when he WAS given money so that was down to him and nothing more.

The fact was that we were top till Jan BUT it was the 11 draws (vs low block teams) was what cost us. Rafa would rather play not to lose sometimes instead of going for the win. He would often play two sitting DM's at home vs the likes of Hull, Wigan, Birmingham etc and then we are surprised we got draws, all 11 of them. The hope now is that Klopp can get it done this season so here's to hoping.

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18 Oct 2018 10:55:57
Hi Ed001,

Just a general footy question. When Kyllian Mbappe came on the scene, I felt you just knew he was something special and would become a world beater. Just like the same feeling I had with Messi. Are there any other players at the moment you feel that way about?


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{Ed001's Note - that young lad Pellegri is the only one I can think of right now. There probably is more but my mind has gone blank.}

18 Oct 2018 12:54:34
This lad lost any single match he has scored in so far, unlucky.

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18 Oct 2018 13:20:29
Cengiz Under is another one. One day he'll be huge imo. Top notch.

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18 Oct 2018 14:28:29
Don’t rule out benny baller, still at the young age of 27. Those two goals at the charity match shows he’s still a fox in the box.

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{Ed025's Note - i think your more of an origi than a salah though benny, plenty of effort without that finesse and guile of a top performer mate.. :)

18 Oct 2018 14:52:02
Pellegri has looked great when he's gotten a game, though his move to Monaco has been plagued by injuries which I hope he recovers from. Also Jardim leaving is a huge loss, he's a genius when it comes to developing youth players.

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18 Oct 2018 20:23:44
Ismail Sarr of Rennes (brilliant at the WC for Senegal) is another one to watch for, I think.

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Review Of The Day 18th October 2018

18 Oct 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 18th October 2018

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18 Oct 2018 07:52:30
Thanks for that Ed001.

I presume Vidal's fight not during a game, otherwise discreetly carrying a 3l bottle of vodka around during a game may have been a might distracting.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry I should have specified it was in a nightclub. He would have got away with it if he had been on the pitch in a Bayern shirt....}

18 Oct 2018 08:05:31
Sounds like he did anyway Ed if he only got a fine.

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{Ed001's Note - true, he could have got a lengthy jail sentence.}

18 Oct 2018 08:32:13
I'm surprised by that to be honest, a fine for doing that? unbelievable. They get away with it all of the time and it's wrong, they should be treat the same as everybody else, anybody else would've been put in jail but because he's a footballer he gets away with it? it's wrong and it does my head in. He's a thug who should no longer be part of the sport.

Thanks very much Ed, have a great Thursday mate.

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{Ed001's Note - good point, when you actually think about it he did get away with it.}

18 Oct 2018 08:54:08
A brain injury?! Christ. Also sad to hear about my fellow Taffy Cotterill. Is it me or are more professionals being a lot more open about mental health lately? Fantastic for awareness.

Cheers ed have a good one!

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{Ed001's Note - I fear Cotterill will regret his decision. While depression is a big problem for footballers (sportspeople in general to be fair) that is often because of the removal of the sport from their lives. The routine, the sunlight and regular exercise are all very good for dealing with depression and he has now removed it from his life. I just hope he has good people around him.}

18 Oct 2018 09:04:00
Excellent point actually. Like you say hopefully has a good support network and he can get this endorphins elsewhere. Cheers mate.

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18 Oct 2018 09:19:48
By the sounds of what he says, he already has a plan in place moving forward of helping people. A lot of people that suffer depression take a lot of joy and peace out of helping others. Sort of I can't control how I feel but I can help others not feel this way so it's a feeling of satisfaction and calm you maybe can't find the equalibrium for your own life. I hope this is the case with him and he finds true happiness in helping others as like ed says, if not, he could find himself very lonely and without the one thing he may feel made him someone.

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18 Oct 2018 09:53:11
That's how I look at it as well Ed, I'd understand if he'd dropped some litter and got a fine, that's normal but assaulting somebody like that and getting a fine for it? it makes no sense to me mate. I've seen people go down for far less. 800 grand is bugger all to him so he'll be laughing.

Who's pocket has he lined? what a prick. Sore subject for me I must admit, it winds me up big time because too many of them get away with stuff yet if you or I go and do something like that then it's game over, if you're rich you get away with everything under the bloody sun.

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{Ed001's Note - very true, and then they even make you POTUS afterwards.}

18 Oct 2018 09:53:40
That’s terrible regarding Vidal, as much as I love my football, players seem to be treated completely differently, like they’re bloody royalty. A fine is nothing compared to what’s that poor chap on the receiving end will have to deal with for the rest of his life!

These players can afford the best lawyers, so they get away with everything. Imagine if say you or I did this, prison sentence for GBH!

On another note, I listened to most of Peter Moore’s interview conducted by Steve Hothersall whilst traveling into Manchester office, he made some really interesting points regarding the club.

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18 Oct 2018 10:41:40
The world is normal again, thank you Ed. I just want to echo what others have said about Vidal. To assault someone with a bottle and cause brain damage should carry more than a fine. Absolutely ridiculous how he is getting away with that. He's probably strutting around like he can get away with anything. I'd argue that he got away with attempted murder. That my be hyperbole on my part, but the point is if you or i did the same thing, we'd be thrown away.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

18 Oct 2018 10:44:16
Cheers Ed, can’t help thinking Real Madrid’s viewpoint would be a total opposite one had they been asked first. Cutting off noses to spite faces and all that. It may be the cynic in me, but although being the loudest, they are definitely not the most suitable ones to be making a moral standpoint on anything.

That West Ham deal still makes me sick. Be as nefarious, greedy, underhand and ignorant as you like, but when you are a Premier League club especially, do it on a private commercial basis and don’t play around with (effectively) tax payers assets. Why should the people of London (or anywhere) have had to stump up for the construction of West Ham’s stadium, then potentially subsidise them playing in it as well? It makes my blood boil seeing those two horrible vampires sat in the stands rubbing their hands together, both looking like they’ve got a bear trap attached to their legs. Saying that, it doesn’t take a lot for me to get narked off about something nowadays, so whatever.

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{Ed001's Note - I think Real Madrid would be against anything Barcelona want and vice versa.}

18 Oct 2018 10:49:30
wow he got away with a fine. really players should be a role model, these are people that are looked up by a lot of the younger generation. shame people like this continue to be in the top tier of football.

you make a good point there ed001, while we are a strong team, and a team that not many would like to up against, we are massively lacking in the trophies department, something that has to change beginning with this season. players will join us, but their ultimate goal will always be to win trophies.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}

18 Oct 2018 14:31:49
Thanks Ed nice one. Wenger Man Utd manager by end of the season? Stranger things have happened.

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18 Oct 2018 13:28:49
Exactly Ed. I'm glad I aren't the only one who thinks this way. Hope you're having a good day mate.

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate, you?}

18 Oct 2018 15:42:51
Cheers for that ed, it’s very much appreciated. A months wages for an assault, it must be great to live a life with repercussions. Hope the victim takes him to court and gets at least a few months wages to pay the medical bills. I'm absolutely disgusted.

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18 Oct 2018 17:35:13
Very good actually Ed thank you very much mate!

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{Ed001's Note - glad to hear that.}

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