Liverpool Banter

23 Apr 2024 15:02:40
Im calling it now, Arsenal loose tonight, we win tomorrow and City suffer a shock late defeat to Brighton Thursday. Title back in our hands.

23 Apr 2024 15:55:13
I'll have whatever you're drinking kim.

23 Apr 2024 15:55:32
I fancied Chelsea tonight originally but apparently they have lots of injuries going into the game including Palmer.

Hopefully they can do us a favour though.

23 Apr 2024 13:44:20
Jota injured again for 2weeks, how we juggling this one for the derby?

23 Apr 2024 14:05:32
We should be looking for a buyer for Jota. His injury record is unacceptable for a top club.
One of the things I really hope leaves with Klopp is our APPALLING injury record and inability to improve it. Beyond the impact on our performances, it’s just irritating that “professional” players can’t stay fit. p.

23 Apr 2024 14:07:54
Jota puts his body on the line gives every last drip but pays for it by getting injured frequently.

23 Apr 2024 14:38:52
Fantastic goalscorer but the bloke is made of quavers. So frustrating.

23 Apr 2024 14:43:44
Getting silly now, always injured and a waste of wages if you ask me. I like the lad, when fit he knows where the goal is but come on, he can't keep at a club like Liverpool constantly (or almost) injured, it's stupid. I agree with you Lowe, it is irritating.

23 Apr 2024 14:50:10
Blimey, it's two weeks!
We've Salah, Nunez, Diaz, Gakpo and Danns. Everton will be without Beto, surely and DCL, probably 😂 so let's not get too despondent about the Derby.
I was relieved to see Beto give the thumbs up on Sunday because it was very worrying at one point.

{Ed025's Note - im glad Beto is ok as well Rigsby, but it would be more worrying for me if he played mate...i think hes terrible..

23 Apr 2024 15:10:12
Where's all the money coming from to replace all these players people want shot of? if they are injury prone then we'll not get a big transfer fee for them. So far it's Matip and Thiago, added to those is Tsimi, Jota, Grav, Salah, Nunez, today Jones as he's injury prone and Diaz coz his father is always mouthing off. Gako is being given a stay of execution after having a couple of good games so his head is currently not on the block.
Considering one of the Ed's today said that we might not be willing to pay Amorim and his staffs release clauses it's looking like money is tight again so hard to see how we afford to replace the above.

23 Apr 2024 15:45:14
Players get injured and I’m sure it’s frustrating for Jota as much is it is for us fans. But the guy is injured every season.

And saying he is our most clinical striker is all well and good but what good is that when he is not available? I would and expect he will be sold in the summer. One, to raise funds and two to bring in someone who not injury prone.

Btw, here is his injury record stretching back to the 18/ 19 season. I would add the fact that he joined us in 20/ 21, so the previous two campaigns below are from his days at Wolves.

23/ 24 - Knee collateral - 51 days
23/ 24 - Muscle injury - 28 days

22/ 23 - Calf injury - 116 days
22/ 23 - Hamstring injury - 31 days

21/ 22 - Ankle injury - 14 days

20/ 21 - Foot injury - 11 days
20/ 21 - Knee bruise - 84 days

19/ 20 - Calf injury - 21 days
19/ 20 - Ankle injury - 28 days

18/ 19 - Bruise - 25 days
18/ 19 - Hamstring injury - 32.

{Ed001's Note - I do wonder how much of a part his long hours playing videogames has to play (sorry bad pun) in his injury problems. It is not good to be sat still for hours on end.}

23 Apr 2024 15:48:29
I'm a big fan of Jota but his injury record is extremely concerning.

Its no good really what a player brings to the table if they're only coming to that table half the time you want them there.

I gave Nunez a bit of stick (in SF eyes was a hammering) yesterday but one of his big positives is more often than not he's available for selection.

23 Apr 2024 15:53:03
Ed025, I know what you mean. Beto is a big lad but apart from that I'm struggling to see what he offers.

Why is everyone so convinced that Salah is leaving? I'd be tempted to sell if a big offer comes from the Saudi league but would he want to go there and give up CL football?
I'd be disappointed in him if he did.

{Ed025's Note - i struggle as well Rigsby, a very slow battering ram is how i would describe him mate..

23 Apr 2024 10:24:00
It feels a bit like there are no really obvious candidates for a new manager. Not just from a Liverpool perspective, but if any other big club was looking for a new manager.

Even Alonso - despite his sensational season in Germany - is very early in his managerial career with limited experience.

Big names of a few years ago like Pochettino and Tuchel seem to have suffered damage to their reputations. Mourinho is yesterday's man. The wave of English players ending their playing careers and moving into management has slowed down (and none of them have had success) .

I know it's very data and analytics driven these days and that's different to the traditional approach of getting the biggest name with the best track record but there just doesn't seem to be so many all-time-great/ legend type of managers out there anymore. Maybe Ancelloti is the last of that generation still standing.

Zidane is out there. His track record is incredible because of those consecutive European Cup wins but I feel like it's hard to really judge him.

Klopp and Guardiola are the big silver-back gorillas of the last decade. Obviously neither is an option.

Who else is out there? I still rate Tuchel actually. There was a time when I saw him as a possible Klopp successor.

23 Apr 2024 10:59:56
Zidane only had success because he had the best squad and the most money. His teams played like a BTEC Simeone team, and if that’s the way we want to go, we might as well get Simeone as at least he can speak English and isn’t a personality vacuum, unlike Zidane.

As for Tuchel, he’s a serial failure, has failed in every job he’s ever had. Somehow manages to upset his players, tactically negative and one dimensional and he simply isn’t good enough or charismatic enough for the job. He’d be sacked in 18 months and be as popular as Hodgson.

I’m not hopeful that we’re going to employ anyone remotely competent given that names like Fonseca and Kovac are seriously in contention for the job.

23 Apr 2024 11:06:16
The more I think about it, the more I appreciate Emery as an outstanding manager. I very much doubt he'll leave villa this season, but his record of success is underappreciated I think.

I like look of Amorim, Slot, Will Still, the Porto guy who's name I can't spell, Terzic, Rose, Farioli and Hoenes as young, up and coming managers.

And Ten Hag.

{Ed001's Note - Emery is brilliant with no pressure, the minute there is pressure on him, then his teams' struggle. Perfect for a team like Villa, for now at least, but not ideal for a team which expects to challenge for trophies.}

23 Apr 2024 12:33:15
I think Marco Rose is someone who would be a safe option and hasn't been mentioned much yet. He has never stunk the place out at any of his jobs. He played under Klopp at Mainz, did good jobs at Salzburg and Gladbach, was unlucky to be sacked at Dortmund (they were 2nd) and has done fine at Leipzig (including winning the DFB Pokal) . I think the Dortmund and Leipzig jobs are harder than people realise as you're losing your best players every single year. He has a proven track-record developing young players and he plays pressing, energetic football.

{Ed002's Note - Marco Rose is not joining Liverpool.}

23 Apr 2024 12:56:36
Viktor: I wouldn't argue that Tuchel is a serial winner or the best manager around or anything like that, and I don't have a strong feeling that I would want him at Liverpool, but I don't think "serial failure" is an accurate representation, depending on how you measure success and failure.

Since 2016 he has won domestic cups in France and Germany, league titles in France and Germany, and the European Cup, European Super Cup and Club World Cup with Chelsea. The argument against that would be that any manager can win in France with PSG and with Bayern in Germany (he did also win the cup in Germany with Dortmund) but when we won the European Cup, Super Cup and Club World Cup in the same year under Klopp we hailed it as greatness. Tuchel did exactly the same.

23 Apr 2024 13:04:46
And that, Babbity is what makes Klopp so special. He broke that stranglehold that Bayern have. Which is why Alonso, Anorim and Slot stand out, because they’ve taken clubs who hadn’t won for a period of time, built them up, developed a style, won a title and in Slot and Amorim’s maintained them at the top. Slot was unlucky that C.V. hit as AZ were competing to win the title against Ajax and were level pegging when it was cancelled. There is a reason they’re the best candidates.

23 Apr 2024 13:30:17
RR, I would say that Tuchel is a serial failure. Sacked by Chelsea, sacked by PSG and Bayern have said thanks but no thanks, at all those clubs he had almost unlimited resources but they were all absolutely terrible to watch. His “achievement” at Chelsea was meaningless as Klopp could have done the same with that squad and those resources, but Tuchel with our resources couldn’t because he has to have unlimited funds to be remotely effective, this has been shown repeatedly, how many league titles at Dortmund?

The league titles he won were one horse races. Even Nico Kovac won a league title in Germany with Bayern and he’s absolutely hopeless too. If Tuchel was as good as you think he is RR, he’d have won the title at a cantor this year. He’s second rate at best, nothing but a journeyman failure.

Quite frankly that man has no business at Anfield and isn’t welcome.

23 Apr 2024 14:06:10
@VV - you don’t speak for everybody within the club or those that support the club. Your last sentence speaks volumes about you.

23 Apr 2024 14:47:52
Tuchel is toxic as heck, man. And the footie he plays is or can be a bit dire to watch. Us getting him would smack of absolute desperation, IMO so I hope we stay well away from him.

As for who is out there, there aren't any very good to great options out there so at the end of the day, we will prolly get the best of a pretty lean bunch.

23 Apr 2024 15:05:22
Please no Simeone for LFC. we can have anyone else. it doesn't matter

his teams are the worst lot ever. esp AM and their style of play.

23 Apr 2024 15:09:44
Some of us have higher standards than others, WDW, I expect you’d be happy if we employed Roy Hodgson or Brendan Rodgers again.

Tuchel is not of the required standard, definitely not of the required character and the fact he’s an ex Chelsea manager alone should remove him from list as he doesn’t fit the ethos of the club. Same goes for Mourinho.

23 Apr 2024 15:25:24
I'm with VV on this. Tuchel would be bad choice as manager. Has shown to be extremely average and his team always plays dire football. It's no wonder that Bayern wants rid of him as well. He should definitely be doing better with them given the resources they have but being second by a long way just shows how limited he is. He did win trophies at Chelsea though but the football was terrible under him. Also has shown to be combative and not a pleasant person to work with. We'll just be setting ourselves back if we appoint him.

23 Apr 2024 15:53:19
I think Alonso was the stand out Fans choice and then it was Amorim.

So its pretty clear that certain sections of the fan base are going to end up upset or not happy when the mystery person is eventually announced.

After all Edwards has been quoted as saying they will go for a brave choice over a popular one.