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23 May 2018 23:41:33
I've just seen Salah's goal against Spurs again - surrounded by six Spurs players and the goalkeeper - how can that not goal not be better than Vardy's. Oh I know - Shearer was one of the judges. Thousands of people vote but Shearer and Wright cast the final vote. I would be interested to know how many votes were cast by the viewers for each goal.

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23 May 2018 23:51:22
I voted for Vardy if I'm honest. That is the best full volley I've ever seen. It is possibly the best goal In my opinion since Bergkamp's spinning first touch and slotted finish all them years ago.

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24 May 2018 00:12:06
I cringe every time I see that vardy goal. Good goal (although it's as much luck as skill) but it's the celebration. His little munchkin voice going "me, me, me" official words of the house "premier league footballer"

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24 May 2018 02:00:08
Salah’s goal against Spurs wasn’t even Liverpool’s best goal this season in my opinion, for me Emre Can’s second against Hoffenheim at home was the best goal we’ve scored this season. Obviously it was Champions League so wasn’t eligible for the award.

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24 May 2018 04:17:35
He would score a beauty against Madrid! The best one!

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23 May 2018 16:25:36
Good article on BBC Sport about Klopp - front page at the mo.

If you do go onto the HYS that is attached, always be wary to "Mind the tw**" as there are a number of bitter manutds out in force!

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23 May 2018 18:05:08
One of the top comments is actually a Man utd fan,

'Top Manager, Top Bloke. You'd run through walls for him, he's got your back, you've got his. A Man Utd fan. Good luck Liverpool, you deserve this one. '

Good article.

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23 May 2018 20:41:29
Fair play to the lad.

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23 May 2018 21:34:53
I saw that shents. Plenty of decent football fans out there, even good luck from some bluenoses.

A pity the kids ruin it, and I include our ‘fans’ on HYS too. Arrogant braggarts! Would rather stay gracious and see what happens!

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23 May 2018 21:48:09
We’ve got a good chance against one of the top ten sides in the world. People are writing us off because apparently we had an easier draw. Forgetting that Roma beat Chelsea and Barcelona to get to the Semi’s and that Madrid had a very lucky penalty awarded to them and were lucky not to concede one against Juve.

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23 May 2018 22:04:41
How do I get to read that lad's?

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23 May 2018 22:49:03
I can't say goodluck Zedd (obviously), i hope you get battered actually, but without bias, i think it's going to be a very good game; one goal in it for me.

Also, when Coutinho left in January, your midfield was criticised for being too 'workmanlike', do you reckon that has actually ended up benefitting you? instead of matching up to Silva, KDB, Fer 'on the ball' in the quarters, the press and intensity got the better of them three? Something similar against Kroos, Modric and Casemiro?

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24 May 2018 00:14:58
Of course you can say good luck Scholes. As we leave these shores (30 miles down the lane) and head to the other side of the continent.

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24 May 2018 00:17:20
Why would you come on here and tell us that you hope that we get battered, sure tell us something that we don't know.

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24 May 2018 02:50:25
Also said it'll be a good game Barry, one goal in it.

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24 May 2018 04:19:34
Interesting question scholes.

I think it’s horses for courses. I think our midfield is very well suited to what we need them to do, press, turnover the ball, breakdown play then release the forwards quickly and let our front 3 do the damage. As we’ve seen time and again they get criticized most for the games against the bottom teams as they don’t have that KDB or David Silva attacking edge, but they are highly effective when in a scrap for midfield possession, especially against the better sides.

That they are so effective does rely on us having a lethal front three though. Stick them behind someone like Lukaku and suddenly there wouldn’t be any attacking flair in the side at all. Every side needs it’s flair and ours sits with Firmino, Mane and Salah.

The current problem with Utd as I see it is I can’t identify who that player is for you, whether it’s in midfield or upfront. It should probably be Sanchez or Pogba but both have been hit or miss and Rashford/ Martial look like their on a leash. Mourinho seems to be happy with stability across the park and then hope Lukaka puts away one of the two or three chances they create per game, whereas City and Liverpool are going for players that create 10-15 chances a game.

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24 May 2018 04:59:24
Scholes comepletly understabd your sentiment scholes :) I would also be wanting the same if the shoe were on the other foot :) Barry I think what he is trying to say is he wants us to get battered but there’s only 1 goal in it. Almost submission into the fact that we have a very good team and can compete and beat the very best. As for your question scholes, yes I think it’s almost typically the same type of match up as it was against city (midfield) however going forward I think they are extremely clinically. So interesting to see how that midfield battle goes.

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23 May 2018 16:17:51
Hi Ed001

Am I right in thinking we won't hear any transfer news both in and out until after the final now?

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{Ed001's Note - yes.}

23 May 2018 18:22:01
Jesus how can you think of anything else other than the final?

I have barely slept or ate in a week thinking about it. European cup finals are the greatest show on earth, when we are in it.

I have even agreed to work Saturday morning just to try and take my mind off it for a bit because Saturday morning and afternoon will feel like a year waiting for KO.

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23 May 2018 23:10:23
Mate I feel sick just thinking about this game. I can't look forward to it. I wish i could. roll on Sunday when we are the best in Europe once again.

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24 May 2018 00:17:31
I'm with you there Ben elf. My family ain't that into footy but wanna make an occasion of it. I keep telling them, this game is not for enjoying! I can't enjoy it and the week is proper dragging the closer it gets the bigger Madrid seem to loom, I hope we win, I really do.

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23 May 2018 14:18:08
Sorry if I have missed it but has there been any update on Can lately? Clear now that he isn't staying but has he officially signed for anyone?

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23 May 2018 15:33:26
I believe nothing will be announced until after the CL final.

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23 May 2018 15:37:54
Basically waiting to announce it after the final.

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23 May 2018 15:41:05
Nothing confirmed yet, albeit increasingly nailed on for Juve based on various media reports.

Of more interest to me is whether he has a chance of being fit for Saturday. Would be good to have some more options in midfield should we need them off the bench.

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23 May 2018 15:47:33
We won’t see any formal news until after the CL final.

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23 May 2018 16:11:12
I was thinking about whether he would be involved in the final (if fit of course) . Part of me thinks he shouldn't be as he is leaving and that space could be used for someone who is staying with the club.

Alternatively with the injuries we currently have in midfield his presence off the bench could be very useful in a final. I think if he is fit Klopp will have him on the bench.

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23 May 2018 16:24:08
I know what you mean, A&I, but I would rather we win it. If Can is fit enough and is best placed to come off the bench and help us do it, then that's what I want. Not interested in cutting off my nose to spite my face, lol!

To be fair to Emre as well, we can't complain about his attitude on the pitch. He's been a model pro despite the fact he is most likely leaving. Pretty certain his injury is more than a bad back!

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23 May 2018 16:32:28
My thoughts exactly Zed. Can't blame a player for wanting to move on - people do it in 'normal' jobs all the time!

I hope he is fit as having some energy to come on in midfield or even to try and change the game (hopefully it is won by that point though! ) would be very helpful.

Otherwise if we are in front (touch wood) we'll get the Klaven on and shift to a back three special.

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23 May 2018 16:58:38
Definitely NOT the Klavan option, imo, we have conceded 5 out of our last 6 goals doing that!

I'd rather we got on some fresh legs (Salah HAS to finish the game, tho! ) and carried on in our style. Or a switch to the 4-2-3-1 formation with Solanke harrying them in the later stages.

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23 May 2018 17:13:34
This must be the slowest week I've ever known. It's worse than December the 20 somethings when you're 8. It's only Wednesday! Aaaaaggghjhhh.

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23 May 2018 18:14:15
We have paid Can's wages this month. In that case he should be in the squad.

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23 May 2018 19:25:13
Spot on, Zed. Seen fans on SM saying it would be a disgrace if Can played the CL final cos he's off to Juve and does not wanna sign a new deal? Really? What a bunch of spoiled snowflakes throwing a strop cos an LFC player does not wanna do what they want. I doubt if these people know anything about the business side of football. If Can is fit, he plays (as a sub or starter) cos we are going to need his energy and athleticism at some point in this game.

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23 May 2018 19:32:34
We need the best players available to beat such a good team as Real .
Keegan left after we won in Rome and Souness left when we won again in Rome we all knew they were leaving but they played Fab games in their final match for us.

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23 May 2018 21:37:27
If Emre Can is able to help us win the final he should be in the squad, I don't care what he does the day after.

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23 May 2018 23:08:47
It was known all season that Keegan would be leaving after the final match. The only problem for Keegan was that he was expecting to go to Real Madrid or Barcelona. When it turned out that neither wanted him and after all his big talk he went to the only foreign club that did want him - Hamburger SV.

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24 May 2018 01:06:38
smicer too!

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24 May 2018 04:24:02
We play the best team to win - I’m sure he will give his all regardless of whether he’s contracted or not, and we can’t have a grudge just because he’s chosen not to renew (just like Milner did) .

I too hope we don’t go down the three CB route. We should go 4-4-2 or even 4-5-1 and let the midfield kill the game rather than relying on CBs to head everything away for 20mins against the likes of Ronaldo.

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23 May 2018 13:35:24
Both times prince charles got married we won the champions league, let's hope harry brings us the same luck!

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23 May 2018 16:59:58
I wish you'd mentioned this before, Waqas.

We could have tried to engineer a break up between Charles and Camilla and a shotgun wedding to someone else in the last few weeks!

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23 May 2018 17:17:33
The omens are so good. No team won it 3 times on the bounce. Reds in the soviet.

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23 May 2018 18:15:47
Zed now that you mention it, I can't believe I dropped the ball on this one! let's start planing for next year.

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23 May 2018 23:32:10
Yeah the last 2 times we won it a prince got married and also a pope died. I'd say the pope must be crapping it.

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23 May 2018 13:23:33
@ Ron, Boston in Murica

I find it hard to believe on boston supporters are on this side.

I did manage to find a liverpool fan club in cambridge, the phoenix landing.

ED0333 if you decide to come up here the drinks are on me!

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23 May 2018 20:54:20
Been there for the Spurs match. Amazing atmosphere.

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23 May 2018 12:33:01
Ed002/ 01

Hi gents,

My question is in reference to Rangers and Liverpool 'potentially' being a feeder club to them because Gerrard is now at the helm?

I recall one of the Eds explaining I believe it was on the Chelsea page how Chelsea have a good system going on with developing their young players at a particular club which I can't recall. Which Liverpool in the past haven't been to successful with and im not sure if they have one.

Are you aware of any potential players that Rangers are linked with from Liverpool either loan or to buy from Pool?

We both know Gerrards heart is at Liverpool, so its a catch20/ 20 could work well for both.
Would you think so?

Cheers
Tommy T.

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{Ed001's Note - Gerrard would like to take a couple of youngsters to improve his team, such as Harry Wilson, but it is not simple as them becoming a feeder club. He has a job to do and wants players that will give him the best chance of winning.}

23 May 2018 14:43:23
Regarding loanees to Rangers. Players such as Kent and Wilson could benefit from a move to Rangers both are better than anyone currently in that team as attacking midfielders/ wingers. Those moves though could be as risky as hiring SG though, massive impatient fan base that could turn quickly against them if they don't hit the ground running. I know a lot of Rangers fans and they seem to think that SG is on the same level as Guus Hiddink or Beilsa. This move will make or break Gerrard. If it were to break him I wouldn't want any of our youngsters to get broken with him.

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23 May 2018 15:38:45
Wilson should be playing at a higher standard than rangers as should Solanke

Maybe Kent.

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23 May 2018 16:34:49
Woodburn or Wilson would do well to get a full season under their belt in professional league. We probably only have space in the squad for one of these to get any meaningful game time.

I can see Woodburn going there and if he tears it up, coming back a much stronger player. Wilson I suspect may have really benefited from the Hull experience and kept as a backup and for cup games.

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23 May 2018 17:21:01
Wilson and Solanke are both too good for Rangers. If either go on loan it should be to a team in the Premier League or a promotion chasing Championship team that play football rather than rugby. I'd want the same for Woodburn too. Kent could go there though and Ejaria.

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23 May 2018 23:00:11
Wilson and Kent would do well at rangers imo, solanke and Woodburn need to stay patient at Liverpool. Woodburn will break through next season I reckon.

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23 May 2018 02:45:29
had a question about image rights. I read certain teams have certain percentages that they take from players and that Liverpool have been relative to other clubs more generous to the player, based on how I understand it that is.

Is this part of the lure of getting new players to come like Salah or even Naby Keita with his Nk8 thing? Or is it not really a significant factor.

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{Ed002's Note - no. It is of no significance.

23 May 2018 11:37:51
Lad's what is this fascination with fan's of opposing team's (well one in particular) in the EPL have of buying the jersey of any team Liverpool meet in a European final? Like if Juve or AC Milan or PSG etc etc were playing one of our domestic rival's would I go out a buy the AC Milan jersey I don't think so.

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23 May 2018 12:04:08
Let's not forget though Barry, a certain Madrid player is an idol at a certain other club, and I don't mean Bale or Modric at Spurs. Some still talk of him as their own so he could play against us for Hackney Gasworks second eleven and they would wear his shirt. I think as it's Madrid and it'd him a lot of fans from that club will wear that shirt. On an unrelated note I do have a Deportivo ****as shirt, Peru's best named team. Had to be done.

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23 May 2018 12:25:52
Oh trust me I get that as well but it also happened in 2007 a lot of our domestic rival's fan's were seen in AC Milan jersey's. Like what's the point!

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23 May 2018 13:00:50
The point is being very sad and having too much disposable income.

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23 May 2018 13:30:29
Definitely sad hjikle mate.

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23 May 2018 17:24:55
I think it's amazingly sad that jealous fans support a team from another country, with no English players when they are playing a team from the same county as their team. It's pathetic. I remember when utd beat bayern in the last few minutes, I couldn't help it, I was going for utd. Same with Chelsea when they won it. If your old man (or grandad) was a docker who lost his job because of zz rival teams supporters then fair enough, otherwise its just blind hate and its pretty sad really.

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23 May 2018 18:52:58
I can guarantee you guys would be supporting and hoping Suarez did a number on united if Barcelona were playing us in the final. Let’s not pretend you guys would be supporting united if the roles were reversed. Credit where it’s due you guys deserve to be in the final. I hope you lose but if you win it will be fully deserved and I’m sure it will be a night to remember! And a week of unforgettable partying. And many united fans would never buy an opposition team shirt just because they are playing against Liverpool. Very silly if there are some fans doing that.

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23 May 2018 20:09:16
When an English team (utd) play a German team (bayern) it is only natural for an English man to support the English club. No I wouldn't be routing for Barcelona to beat utd.

If there were no utd players in the England team would you want chile to beat England coz of sanchez?

I tell you now, I was happy when Teddy scored against bayern. It was not something I thought about, it was a natural reaction.

I think every true English man should be supporting liverpool on Saturday night against the spanish giants. Holding on to petty club rivalries, especially when utd have f all to do with this game, is petty and sad. These rivalries will soon be forgotten when the world cup begins.

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23 May 2018 22:01:35
I can also testify to the fact that some but not many were seen in Savilla jerseys the night of the Europa league final.

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23 May 2018 11:35:37
I think the best way for us in the final would be classic Klopp LFC way go all out press in first 20-25 minutes, get 2 goals or better 3 and then defend for your life and counter attack. However would Madrid be expecting it? Zidane is your average coach and i don't think he has a clue but he might expect us to go flying of the blocks and madrid may park it for 20-25 minutes. So should we play a bluff and start cautious and and then fly out by say minute 30? might catch them totally off.
Anyways, I don't want a 70-75 minute 1-1 or 2-2 because then its panic time for us. we will surely crumble in those scenarios i think because of the magnitude of the game.
May be if it goes to penalties it will work in our favour? Milner, Hendo, Trent, bobby and Salah.
Although if it does goes to penalties wonder if we would have Migs in goal (only if it goes to pens), he has saved quite a few has better reach. he is good on penalty duties i feel.

Also midfield i think milner hendo gini select themselves. So our final starting lineup is pretty much known to everyone out there or would klopp spring up a surprise or two, would take balls but if it works he would be at the pinnacle of media adulations.

God please let's skip thursday and bloody friday. i haven't used my brain this much since class II.

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23 May 2018 12:04:24
Like we did against city home and away? Have faith.

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23 May 2018 12:17:13
Nah, Klopp in Europe is more cautious as we saw in the City and Roma games. For the first 20 minutes or so, we're going to defend a bit deeper and not commit as many men forward but once we build up some momentum in the 20 minutes before half-time, we can easily score 2 or 3 goals then. Second half will be when we defend for dear life and try to hit them on the counter.

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23 May 2018 14:57:26
I reckon the first 30mins will be pretty even, just like Man City and then once we’ve got a feel for the game we’ll see a few chances open up. If we score I think we’ll score more as Klopp won’t hold back. if they score however I think they may control the game and hit us on the break.

If they have get lead and start to sit deep for the last 30mins I hope we go 4-2-3-1. Put on Solanke and play Firmino at 10 like we did vs Brighton.

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23 May 2018 17:29:49
Whoever scores first for me. If its them they will make it very hard to equalise if we score it'll be 4 0.

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23 May 2018 17:50:55
I think lallana has a part to play. Everyone has forgotten what a class player he is, including Madrid I hope.

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23 May 2018 18:49:31
That first half is when we must blow them away. Has to be a repeat of the City and Roma first leg matches.

The longer the game is played "cautiously" the more it will play into their hands.

This has to be a blitzkrieg.

Nihil temendum est.

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23 May 2018 19:44:09
Red67, and if we can't blitzkreig them within the first 30 mins or the whole first half, what do you propose we do? Go all guns blazing and then get caught out at the back? Sorry BUT that is not how you play a final esp. as the underdog. You stay in the game for as long as you can and when your oppo comes, you TEAR right into it. Until that happens, you keep it tight, and look for openings until you find them. This final will not be settled in 30 mins or anything like that cos like it or not, they are terrified of us as well so they will not just throw caution to the wind either. It's that simple.

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