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20 Oct 2017 00:06:44
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19 Oct 2017 22:04:32
We'll Ed25 mate, no lack of desire, really like Davies, but it seems to me there's a real lack of any idea what to do with the ball when you have it, all dead ball, no fluidity. Koeman is about as hopeless as Keane.

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{Ed025's Note - woeful again RTID, no excuses mate we got exactly what we deserved and have done all season, koeman is a dead man walking for me..

19 Oct 2017 22:15:32
Koeman looked like a man under pressure on the sidelines, a poor result against Arsenal and he’ll be gone.

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{Ed025's Note - if hes still there at the weekend smeg..

19 Oct 2017 22:17:17
It disappointed me to see him laughing towards the last few minutes like it was the refs fault they were losing, especially when Williams could have been sent off just for being a tool. Sooner he's gone the better for Everton IMO.

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19 Oct 2017 22:30:16
Forgot all about the game was going to watch it as well, Koeman needs to stay, he's doing a fantastic job Ed025 mate :) - On a serious note though, how are the board keeping him in the position? He should be sacked first thing in the morning mate, otherwise it'll only get worse especially with Arsenal and Chelsea as your next fixtures.

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{Ed025's Note - tough times ahead corleone mate, i think koeman is on the brink..

19 Oct 2017 23:12:08
BE stupid to sack him now,

He needs time, In the long run, the best thing that could happen is to get knocked out of EL,

More time on training ground and be a different team after Xmas,

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19 Oct 2017 23:40:00
Koeman's tactics aside, the recruitment at Everton this past summer was a disaster no matter how hard the media and EFC fans try to convince you otherwise. There was this fan on the Everton fan on their page saying none of our LFC players could get into their side and it was only Koeman that was holding them back. Could not disagree more.

Their defense is old and withering (while Keane is c**p), they have too many CAMs and little to no genuine width, their best player is out injured and may never return the same. They signed players just the way Rodgers did when Suarez left. EFC will be lucky to finish in the top half of the table.

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19 Oct 2017 21:31:43
Based on what I’m seeing here Everton don’t have one player that would get into our first team. Seriously. Not even one.

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19 Oct 2017 22:05:40
Harsh, Davies was all over the pitch, id take him tomorrow, that's about it though.

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19 Oct 2017 22:09:30
I’d take their goalkeeper over Mignolet and I like Gueye who wasn’t playing tonight, that’s about it though.

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19 Oct 2017 22:15:23
I wouldn’t take their keeper, he’s no better than any one at the club including Mignolet. He is worse than any of our keepers on crosses and always looks weak under a high ball.

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19 Oct 2017 22:52:46
I'd take Barkley if just to wind them up. Would take Davies on merit.

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19 Oct 2017 23:58:20
I'd take Gueye to protect our defense. No thanks to the rest of that horrendous EFC squad. They actually thought a top4 challenge was on the cards. Hilarious!

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19 Oct 2017 15:28:52
Ed001, you did an article at the start of the season regarding who you thought had strengthened the most in the summer. At the next international break, could you possibly fit in a follow up to that article? I think by then we'll be able to seriously analyse how the teams are evolving with their new players and make accurate predictions as to who will seriously challenge. So far only City have convinced me they are a title winning team.

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{Ed001's Note - I have added that to my to do list and I will try and do that as it is a good idea.}

19 Oct 2017 16:14:53
It'd just be interesting to re-evaluate. Although, it Looks like you got City spot on in your original piece, even if i disagreed at the time!

Would be good to hear which new signings you think have settled (Salah, Matic, Richarlison? ), who hasn't (Lindelof, Sigurdsson, Bakayoko? ), any players who have had a sudden unexpected resurgence (Sterling, Moreno, Fellaini? ), players who perhaps should've left for various reasons (Van Dijk, Barkley, Sanchez? ) . Maybe even get into which managers have found a system that works well (Pep, Mourinho? ), and who is riding their luck in terms of keeping their job (Bilic, Koeman? ) and who has already bitten the bullet and if you think that was the right decision (De Boer, Shakespeare? ) . In fact that is how you could structure it. For each team you could do a best new signing, worst new signing, most improved player from last season, players who should've left (if any), and how the manager has got them playing. Just an idea though, you are way better at them than me, I'm sure!

There is just so much you could elaborate on and analyse from the original piece as i think you wrote it straight after the window shut when the dust hadn't fully settled. Look forward to it if you (hopefully) can find the time in amongst your extensive list of profiles and requests 😂 i understand this is a potential big one though! Maybe it could wait until Christmas if you are snowed under (Ba Dum tss) .

Cheers mate.

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{Ed001's Note - I agree, it is always really interesting to look back on things like that and see what you got right and what was wrong. I will defo get on that during the international break.}

19 Oct 2017 16:22:48
I think Watford have to be commended and Silva is impressing again.

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19 Oct 2017 16:27:28
MK, where you been bro? Missed ya.

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19 Oct 2017 16:42:00
Cheers buddy! Hopefully Liverpool give you some positives to write about over the next few weeks then!

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19 Oct 2017 19:14:12
Just had a short break Bingo mate. Had a lot on in the real world lately and the negativity and arguing on here wasn't helping. I figured I'd have a look at the site after we won 7-0 expecting it to be positive. It is a little more bearable reading i guess 😂

I'm still staying out of the debates for a bit longer whilst my life in the real world rides out the turbulence, but I'm going to start visiting regularly again. I was intending to stay away until January, but this sites just too addictive my friend.

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19 Oct 2017 20:09:14
Nice recommendation mate :) good to see you posting again!

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19 Oct 2017 20:20:01
Cheers Corleone. I've read down the boards today and your posts have been consistently excellent the last few days mate.

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19 Oct 2017 20:32:11
Take heart MK, my friend. We may argue and debate about all things football and LFC BUT there are more important things in life. I hope all will will be fine in your life with whatever turbulence (s) is going on there. My heart and prayers are with you and hope to see you back very soon always remember: The night may bring turbulence (pun intended) BUT there will always be joy in the morning. God bless, my friend!

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19 Oct 2017 20:39:16
hallelujah.

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19 Oct 2017 21:19:04
Thanks very much MK mate :)

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19 Oct 2017 22:12:14
If you come back here when we win MK you'll see a lot less people on here than when we lose . hope your well mate.

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19 Oct 2017 22:47:50
Thanks Bingo/ Squizza. Your kind words help more than you probably realise.

You're welcome Corleone.

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Midfielders - Part 2

19 Oct 2017 05:54:21
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Midfielders - Part 2

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19 Oct 2017 06:53:43
Magnificent. Just magnificent 😎😎. You should have named a few more players as examples of the types you mentioned. I just hope some people before posting random Bull about “ How great our Center Mid “ read this article at least 19 times!
We have none of the categories with us except Ball Winners.
The entire concept of our midfield is to protect and support Coutinho! No wonder we count stars when he is not in pitch!

Looking forward to the third part!

Taking about midfield, Which PL club has the best / most complete midfield according to you? And which in Europe?
My pick, UTD with Pogba, Matic and Micky
Spurs with Dier / Wanyama, Dembele
Chelsea only when they have Kante!

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{Ed001's Note - PL would depend, probably Chelsea at full strength as Mikhitaryan is not good at all, terrible buy, he just goes missing for 90% of a season. I don't rate him at all. Though Citeh's is not bad, that is for sure.

Europe has Juve, Bayern, Madrid, all got excellent midfields. PSG are up there too, though losing Matuidi in the summer has weakened it.}

19 Oct 2017 07:10:29
Chelsea were absolutely crap yesterday against a wonderful Roma who ran the show all over. Without Kante they are terrible, point blank crap! Fabregas is a wonderful passer of the ball but has the mobility of a pensioner while Bokayako is like an Emre Can ( Need a solid disciplined player alongside him ) .

City looks ok but only till they are being dominated which is not the case in PL. they don’t have a balanced midfield. They have a wonderful midfield. Fernandinho is doing all alone himself but then his side scores so much that they just neglect every other part of the pitch.

Juventus is ohk. Without Pjanic they are average.
PSG - I like their midfield. Motta / Rabiot / Verratt.
Madrid has the most complete midfield in Europe.

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{Ed001's Note - not sure about that with Madrid, Casemiro is not the best and Kroos is so lazy I would hate to have him in my team.}

19 Oct 2017 07:23:41
Hard to look beyond a midfield which can boast of David Silva and Kevin De Bryune.
They are world class players and no mistake.

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{Ed001's Note - but they do not provide much defensive cover, so they are not very balanced. I do agree though, particularly Silva.}

19 Oct 2017 07:44:17
Fantastic article mate.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you mate. Bit rushed at the end as the leccy was due to go off here for maintenance and I wanted to get it up before that happened.}

19 Oct 2017 07:48:20
Ron

I was referring to a complete midfield.

Julian Weigl / WC holding mid - Naby Kieta - Coutinho

That’s a complete midfield.

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19 Oct 2017 08:02:52
I wouldn't of guessed it was rushed mate :) - looking forward to the part 3.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you.}

19 Oct 2017 08:24:57
Not with Weigl. Don't think he is a true DM. He is more of a DLP, IMO.

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19 Oct 2017 09:09:03
PSG have the best midfield in Europe imo. Motta (ageing but still class), Verratti and Rabiot have it all. They actually function as a group, something our midfielders particularly Henod, Can and Gini should learn from.

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19 Oct 2017 09:24:52
Though it's debatable I'm with you Indian there, they are top notch mate.

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19 Oct 2017 09:39:21
Cracking article as usual ed. Very much looking forward to part 3.

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19 Oct 2017 09:55:38
I would gladly take Weigl. He is a brilliant player. Dier or Wanyama, We definitely need one at least.

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19 Oct 2017 10:55:29
Good article but worth giving your thoughts on how these types of players impact the system and what it means for us.

I think we have 3 decent all-rounders in our team in Can, Gini and Hendo, all fairly good at breaking up play, but also decent passers, and at getting forward without being brilliant at any one thing. Then we have two roaming attacking playmakers in Couts and Lallana who mostly looking to get forward, play between the lines and get into the box to score.

What we seem to lack is a natural fetcher like Kante (even if Hendo and Gini can sometimes do this) or a deep holding midfielder (although Can still looks best bet to develop into one for me) .

It seems we rely more on mobility and aggression to press the ball carrier into making a mistake rather than a particularly brilliant defender in midfield. Which is probably why Klopp prefers the 4-3-3 as that system allows us to control midfield. It seems to work well in some games (Arsenal and Maribor) but can also leave us feeling a little blunt when trying to unlock a tough defensive unit (Newcastle and Man Utd)

I’m still surprised we haven’t see a Hendo/ Can double pivot in a 4-2-3-1 as I expect both would excel alongside the other, allowing us to play a Mane, Coutinho, Salah attacking midfield which I think would be pretty devastating and make us a bit more of a threat going forward.

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{Ed001's Note - it was not meant to be about Liverpool mate, so I couldn't really do that as it differs for every team.}

19 Oct 2017 10:58:21
Is silva one of the most underated players in world football and english football history? Id say so.

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19 Oct 2017 11:02:23
What I'd give to have Mascherano Alonso and Gerrard in their day again!

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19 Oct 2017 11:24:11
Anonymous

Yes he is mate. It’s a surprise he stayed at city for so long!

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19 Oct 2017 12:42:52
Keita, hendo and firmino shouldn't be too bad.

Can and cou out.

Werner in for me. German. Young. Very fast. Links with naby.

Ward/ karius
Taa matip vvd? moreno
Hendo
Keita firmino
Mane salah
Werner

Yep. Pretty special.

Lallana, wiji, grujic, oxlade, solanke, Woodburn, ejaria.

Maybe throw are hat in the ring for goretzka on a free (not free ed 2;) )

Sturridge, cou, can, klavan, migs out.

Goretzka, Werner, keita and a cb in.

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19 Oct 2017 14:35:35
Good piece 001, would you say Delle Alli is in the same category as Keita, Naingollan and Vidal? He's another who is good at everything to a degree, chips in with goals, and has a bit of a fiery temper. It's hard to pinpoint his exact role though so maybe it's a slight variation of the old fashioned centre mid position. As he does tend to drift beyond Kane at times, but isn't afraid to mix it on the edge of his own box. I certainly don't see him as an orthodox number 10 or second striker. It is kind of like where Gerrard played behind Torres, but not, if you know what i mean?

Still haunts me that we missed out on him. He's already on the verge of being world class in my opinion.

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{Ed001's Note - no he is an attacking mid for me. Very rarely gets back at all now.}

19 Oct 2017 15:07:06
Keita is first class in breaking up of play and he actually starts from the middle or deep! Ali is nothing of that kind. Kieta is also a brilliant playmaker while Ali is the recepient of a beautiful pass from Dembele or Errikson!
Kieta is exactly what Chelsea thought Bakoyaka would be!

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

19 Oct 2017 14:59:23
Another Ed01 masterpiece!

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{Ed001's Note - I am blushing thank you RE!}

19 Oct 2017 15:07:09
Cheers Ed. He is certainly quite unique. Unlike most attacking mids nowadays he seems like he'd rather score a goal himself than set one up and isn't what you'd normally class as creative. Whatever his role, Gerrard should've got out of bed!

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{Ed001's Note - a lot of people do consider him as a forward, but he is an odd kind of floating forward. Not having the best of seasons so far though. I do agree though, he would have been perfect for Klopp's style.}

19 Oct 2017 15:26:19
Personally I'd rather us guarantee Can playing time and resign him (although he may still go anyway) and sell Hendo.
As much as I admire certain traits from Henderson, IMO I just don't see him in a squad that takes Liverpool to the next level. I still think a solid CDM is needed to support the back line. this would allow your other two mids to push forward (box-box) . Having said that, as the ED's pointed out, we need balanced fullbacks as well in order to allow the CM's (CAM's) to push forward without fear of being beaten on the break.
A solid holding mid (kante type player) keita, coutinho (Enter replacement) new fullbacks, and a CB. A keeper would be ideal as well but I think at his age, Karius deserves a shot and if a sold foundation is built around him, I think you would see him excel.

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19 Oct 2017 16:29:31
I've always thought Alli was a forward, a false 9 if you like, behind the striker which is the exact role he plays at Spurs and for England.

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19 Oct 2017 18:18:28
What do you mean when you say "links with naby"?

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19 Oct 2017 17:29:44
I think Alli should really be a box to box midfielder for me, but Spurs are playing him like a sort of no.10 because they have Wanyama/ Dier or Dembele locking up shop behind him so they let him roam free to pair with Kane. Problem is I think it’s making him a bit lazy and Alli doesn’t have the pace of a Mane or Hazard, not the skills of a De Bruyne or Coutinho so I suspect he’ll be far more effective in a Gerard type role where he could be genuinely world class. I think he’d be perfect for Klopp and I think he’d become a better player in a system like Liverpool’s too.

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19 Oct 2017 17:29:44
I think Alli should really be a box to box midfielder for me, but Spurs are playing him like a sort of no.10 because they have Wanyama/ Dier or Dembele locking up shop behind him so they let him roam free to pair with Kane. Problem is I think it’s making him a bit lazy and Alli doesn’t have the pace of a Mane or Hazard, not the skills of a De Bruyne or Coutinho so I suspect he’ll be far more effective in a Gerard type role where he could be genuinely world class. I think he’d be perfect for Klopp and I think he’d become a better player in a system like Liverpool’s too.

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18 Oct 2017 22:53:33
Do we go unchanged at the weekend?

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{Ed007's Note - Just turn them inside out and they'll last a bit longer.}

18 Oct 2017 22:58:15
I think Klopp will def bring back in Mig (Karius) Gomez (Taa) and Henderson (Milner) for Spurs with the rest unchanged. However personally I'd prefer to see Karius or Ward as our keeper continuously for the rest of the season and I'd push Coutinho back into midfield and Ox into the front 3 until Mane is back.

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18 Oct 2017 23:01:09
'However personally I'd prefer to see Karius or Ward as our keeper continuously for the rest of the season and I'd push Coutinho back into midfield and Ox into the front 3 until Mane is back'

Me too Jayden.

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19 Oct 2017 00:12:26
Robertson will no doubt miss out again 🙄.

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19 Oct 2017 01:39:27
I expect Migs, Gomez, Hendo to come back in and I’m fine with that, especially away from home.

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19 Oct 2017 02:01:20
Perhaps Klopp has discussed it with Robertson and has assembled a squad where the best 11 will play, and cover is brought in for injury, burn out, or loss of form only; not simple ‘rotation’. This is strength in depth. Moreno doesn’t deserve to be dropped atm. Perhaps Robertson is happy to be part of what Klopp is building.

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19 Oct 2017 02:13:50
Not a Moreno fan Ron?

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19 Oct 2017 06:22:36
I just think Robertson is better and has proven it on the pitch.

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{Ed001's Note - when? I don't get this love-in for Robertson, he was not good for Hull and he has shown nothing for us, despite the hysteria against Palace when he actually hit most of his crosses nowhere near one of our players, despite having the freedom of the park and all the time in the world to place a cross.}

19 Oct 2017 06:48:43
Still think our best midfield is Gini-hendo-can and I'd like to see that vs spurs. Coutinho doesn't have the engine or energy to help us dominate the midfield.

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19 Oct 2017 07:05:33
Oh I am sorry Ron but Robertson can’t defend. We never brought in a superior full back and that is bottom line and tried another gamble in Robertson which hasn’t paid off!

Oh yes just like VVD, We tried, We tried.

Moreno is a mistake waiting to happen while Robertson was never good enough in the first place!

Another position need to be upgraded in the summer!

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19 Oct 2017 07:15:51
Faith

You definitely need to read the article above and the part 1. Coutinho is not here to dominate midfield I am afraid.

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19 Oct 2017 07:27:34
Every time I've watched Robbo he's shown more awareness and more positional sense than Moreno has in his entire LFC career.
Defending is not just what you do with the ball (crosses? ) or what you do when your direct opponent has the ball. The shape of the team is vital and Moreno is usually 20 yards more advanced than the ball. This gives opponents options when attacking. Robbo has far more tactical acumen than Moreno who probably puts in 3 times as many "crosses" and sometimes gets lucky.

Just my perspective.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry but you are not watching them if you think Moreno puts in 3 times as many crosses as Robertson. That is crap. If anything Robertson is the one who puts in more crosses. It is pretty much all he does and all he has to offer. As for awareness and positional sense, they are both bloody hopeless in those areas, neither of them show any. Moreno does get advanced too early, I agree, but Robertson is not the answer.}

19 Oct 2017 08:23:16
No brainer for me, we bring in Faouzi Ghoulam and sell one of Robertson/ Moreno - neither are good enough let's be honest. Robertson I do want to see more of but it seems he was bought just to keep Moreno on his toes.

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{Ed001's Note - Moreno was expected to be sold.}

19 Oct 2017 08:30:26
Ron, Robbo was already not well-liked when he signed as many including myself, thought we could do better. Same with Ox. Moreno is not great and that much is clear. However, This Robbo-love in is baseless. Moreno is showing great improvement (I know, it is a low bar) BUT that much is true. Robbo is not better than Moreno and Moreno is just about shading it right now. Klopp thinks Moreno is playing well and many have agreed on that. It is your opinion and we respect that BUT that's all it is, your opinion.

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19 Oct 2017 08:43:35
You're telling me what I see from the stands is baseless.

Ok, well if you already make you're mind up about a player based on TV images playing for a poor team then there is no point in trying to convince you and obviously your opinion has more basis than mine 👏

All I will say is TV tends to be focussed on the ball. From the stands you see the whole pitch all the time. Whether you want to admit it or not, you get a better perspective of team shape and player positioning when you can see the whole pitch.

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{Ed001's Note - if you are going to be a prick about it then don't bother discussing this with me. You have no idea what I have seen but you carry on being one of those tits that thinks they know more because they are lucky enough to get to games. By the way you can't have seen much from there as he never plays for us for you to watch. I am done with this. You were the same with Brendan blinkers on refusing to accept what anyone else said. It is pointless discussing this with you as your head is clearly so far up the lad's rectum that you have turned on one of our other players just because he is keeping Robertson out the team.}

19 Oct 2017 09:01:44
Ed, I'm replying to Bingo who called my opinion "baseless".
I have no problem with your comment on my opinion, I don't like it when someone says another's opinion is baseless. Everyone's opinion is equally as valid. Calling it baseless is disrespectful and more "prickish" in my opinion.

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19 Oct 2017 09:12:04
Moreno has obviously pushed himself up another level. (There's still a few before he becomes dependable) Perhaps Robertson will rise to the challenge which can only be a good thing. I don't think we've seen enough of him yet in a red shirt to really comment. I would imagine he will get his chance when Moreno gets a ban. One thing, is he definitely fit? As in to the level klopp expects? I just wonder if he and ox aren't quite ready for the amount of running klopp has his players do in preseason.

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19 Oct 2017 09:12:56
Robertson was a waste of money. Just another player signed for the sake of it. Moreno has stepped up and there is no reason right now to drop him for an average left back signed from Hull that 90% LFC fans deep down knew would never make the grade here. Moreno has developed an understanding with Coutinho and Mane on the left, while Robertson simply kept getting in Mane's way every time they played together and KLopp obviously saw that.
I was against the Robertson signing from the get go (Ed002 can attest to me as a Robertson hater) . Nothing against the player but it was painfully obvious there was no logic behind the signing.

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19 Oct 2017 09:23:08
Ron, I never said that Robbo was disliked cos he played for Hull. You made that up on your own. And the fact that you think you know more than the rest of us who disagree with you cos you go to games and we don't, shows that you have NO argument on this issue and the ones you have, are nothing but hollow rants, the ones Ed has appropriately responded to. You were the same not just with Brendan (I read all your posts then and they were nuts), but with Karius as well, with you saying he would NEVER come good as if you can tell the future which clearly, you can't.

Now you are saying Robbo is better whereas the guy has only play two games for us so to you, two games is enough to say he is better than Moreno? Have you bothered to ask yourself why he's only played two games this season? Could it be that it is cos Moreno is keeping him out?

Again, your opinion is baseless with no facts to support it and if that rant is all you have to offer as a rebuttal to my comment, then you are swimming upstream, bro. I normally love your posts and optimism BUT here, you have embarrassed yourself royally, my friend.

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19 Oct 2017 09:55:06
That part of it I disagree on. I think Coutinho could do everything ed says he could in midfield but imo doesn't have the engine yet to do that all game.

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19 Oct 2017 10:36:55
Faith

He just don’t need to run and chase shadows all when not in possession, hence we play with two or three B2B ball winners. His role is not to dominate the midfield nor win anything and if he does it it’s actually a bonus. He is what Ozil should be doing at arsenal and for what he is getting abused for. I would be happy if he just pick players ahead when he has the ball and forget every thing on the pitch. Our team is set up to help him not the other way around.

The team play with 2 power tanks in Can, Hendo, Wijnaldum. Why do you need an extra player just to run around? Once went have Keita then we will just dominate the league let alone any matches!

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19 Oct 2017 12:21:37
Whatever Bingo. This has nothing to do with Rodgers so you're engaging in "internet warfare". I have no time for that

I respect others opinions. I do not call them baseless.
You have no respect for differening opinions, that much is clear by your comments.

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19 Oct 2017 13:00:17
Anyone is better than Moreno and I think Robertson deserves to be in ahead of Moreno.

Why is Klopp so meticulous about Goal keepers then? Migs for PL, Kaurius for CL and Ward for the rest?

Same with Grujic. Can gets in irrespective of his quality.

I don't like AOC but he can't be worse than Can. Grujic and Woodburn deserve some game time ahead of Can with the amount of playing time.

I agree with Ron here.

Cheers.

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19 Oct 2017 14:36:45
Bit harsh that on Ron. Everyone has their opinion. Let's keep it civil guys.

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19 Oct 2017 14:53:20
Samikwell, I think can has earned his place in the team to be honest. Yep, he's had a few quiet games but he's also had a few man of the match performances as well. Something to think about this early in the season. Moreno is improving. Still lots to learn but his attitude is great. As I said earlier, I hope he and Robertson push each other because obviously that will benefit the team as a whole. Woodburn is a kid. Let's not put all the expectation on him just yet. They're not even sure where he plays yet but I'm fairly certain it would be in a more attacking role. As for grujic, I could be wrong but I thought ed2 said things might change with him soon enough. Its still a little early to write aoc off or indeed build him up. I'm hopeful he finds his feet under klopp. And finally goalkeeper. nobody has a clue what's going on.

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19 Oct 2017 16:40:36
Sami, that is your opinion, one which Klopp and many others on here and on other fan sites (as I visit some of them) disagree with as he can't beat out Moreno. Saying anyone is better than Moreno makes little sense as Robbo can't get in the team ahead of him so by that, we can conclude that anyone BUT Robbo is better than Moreno. Cos you think Robbo is better does not mean he is and that he should play. Klopp makes the decisions and frankly, I don't care who plays provided they can do the job and right now, Moreno tho not great, is doing the job to a certain extent. That is the reality.

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19 Oct 2017 17:15:38
I don’t always agree with Ron but I think he deserves an apology.

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19 Oct 2017 18:02:55
Robertson isn't playing because Moreno is yet to do anything to justify him being removed from the starting XI. Simple as really.

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19 Oct 2017 18:32:17
Spot on, Hijkle. It is as simple as that but some on here think Klopp is mistreating Robbo by not playing him or something, which is preposterous. If Robbo wants to play more, he should convince Klopp on the training pitch and dislodge him, end of story.

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19 Oct 2017 21:20:16
Can we all wear shirts for the spurs game saying #PrayForRon?

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Naby Keita

18 Oct 2017 19:24:49
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new player profile about, Naby Keita

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18 Oct 2017 19:34:01
Good one Ed001, I can't wait until he joins in summer he's going to be a major signing for us. I didn't actually think he'd end up coming so to know he IS coming is exciting. Every time I've watched him play he's impressed me, he is much needed for us.

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18 Oct 2017 19:36:08
Could you write something about Romario Ed01? My first super hero and without him I wouldn’t be kicking a football?

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{Ed001's Note - I have added him to the Legends list for you Harry. I am just starting on writing up Puskas now, just another 80 or so before I get to Romario for you!}

18 Oct 2017 19:43:21
That list grew quick Ed mate lol Knew it'd be a popular series the legends of football.

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{Ed001's Note - very quick mate, lots of people making suggestions for it.}

18 Oct 2017 19:50:56
Excited to see him at the club eds after reading that. We need a little bit of bite in our midfield.

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{Ed001's Note - I am excited mate, every time I see him he looks excellent, though the sendings off were silly.}

18 Oct 2017 20:18:35
So it's Romario's fault 😁

Good player, especially for Barcelona vs Man Utd 🏆.

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18 Oct 2017 23:20:36
I would love a really good DM next to Keita next year. Oh and a keeper 2 CB I shall start my Christmas list 🤔😂.

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18 Oct 2017 21:49:46
Ed01 how about another 2 argentine's mate riquelme and aimar 4 of my fav players of all time have been from Argentina, maradona, batistuta, requelme and aimar. Cheers mate.

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{Ed001's Note - added them mate.}

19 Oct 2017 08:30:55
Riquelme was some player.

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19 Oct 2017 15:41:20
Riquelme was awesome. Weren't we close to signing Aimar at one stage?

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19 Oct 2017 18:57:23
Cheers for the write up 01,02 alluded to some off field attitude issues lately, have you heard anything about that with him?

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate, there were a few, though I believe it has settled down a bit now. Fingers crossed it stays that way!}

19 Oct 2017 20:39:08
Walkon, i think you are right we was close to signing aimar. i also think newcastle was close to signing requelme at the end of his career but he chose to go home instead if I remember rightly. Requelme was such a silky player in my opinion played the game with ease.

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18 Oct 2017 17:36:36
Much preferred Millner as captain a real driving force.

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18 Oct 2017 18:21:45
Until he has a poor game or we get beat mate and everyone will winge again.

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18 Oct 2017 18:54:14
Captain material? After one game? Come on, man. You are aware that Hendo had a very good perf. vs Utd and bossed the LC game where he scored the winner, right or are we going to act that all that did not happen? At least, be honest in your assessment is all I'm asking.

Kloppsreds17, I agree with you as well. The moaners will be back moaning after Milner screws up as if our players are not allowed to have bad games anymore.

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18 Oct 2017 19:10:26
Another fan moaning about fans moaning 🤦🏻‍♂. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

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18 Oct 2017 19:37:03
Emre Can, He is a Captain in 2 years time. Make him one now!

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18 Oct 2017 20:05:45
Captain of Juve in two years though, unfortunately.

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18 Oct 2017 20:40:36
Jayden, you are correct about everyone having an opinion. That is not the point. The point is that having a go and slating a player relentlessly just cos he had a bad game is just useless and unproductive as that will not help the situation. Everyone knows that. Frustration is normal BUT self control is more important as you don't ever wanna throw the baby out with the bath water just cos you're peeved.

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18 Oct 2017 21:23:39
Jayden you blame people for stuff you actually do yourself lad you keep winging about other people bringing other teams into it, yet yest you did with spurs. Yes everybody is entitled to there opinion but when you do it 10 times a day it gets tedious, stop dictating and putting folk down thinking you control things here ha ha ha grow up instead of thinking you control people if you don't like what people write why not just pass by instead of thinking you need to give an opinion on every single post that gets wrote trying to micro manage every posters views.

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18 Oct 2017 21:28:59
Knuckles telling people to stop dictating 🤦🏻‍♂🙈.

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18 Oct 2017 21:34:14
Bingo I totally agree with you on the slating of players relentlessly part is out of order. But people predicting he is going to get slated on the assumption of him playing bad before an actual game is being a bit OTT.

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18 Oct 2017 21:54:01
Yes you jayden every post your name is up turning on other peoples posts And your turning things round to make them suit you. Honestly kid you need to grow up fella like you keep saying people are entitled to there opinions without you trying to make out they saying stuff they aren't lad.

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18 Oct 2017 22:22:17
Jayden, I am said that cos it happens all the time on this forum. Have you not been reading the post on here after games? Look at what people have done to Ox. The guy (tho I did not want him hereBUT still gets my support) is yet to play 500 mins for LFC and was getting slaughtered on here cos he did not do a Lionel Messi when was was making cameo appearances. The lad scored vs Maribor and was still getting slated.

Same with Hendo. People want him canned or sold and say he's not been good enough this season, knowing fully well that he is carrying his heel condition and is trying to get fit while at the same time, forgetting that he bossed the LC game and got us the winner and was imperial in the Utd game. You would not know that with the way he gets ripped to bits on here incessantly and even when he plays a good game, nobody mentions that and he gets the blame whenever we lose. That is what I can't stand and will continue to speak out about.

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18 Oct 2017 22:38:50
Bingo my initial post wasn't aimed at you mate. And reflecting now I probably shouldn't have posted my initial post in the first place.

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18 Oct 2017 22:46:05
Oh, sorry Jayden. I too was surprised at the content of the post myself cos I know you must have seen people moan for moaning sake, slating players after having one bad game. Once again, my apologies.

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18 Oct 2017 22:48:34
Well that thread was just ridiculous.

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19 Oct 2017 00:14:55
Bit like a romantic drama.
I hate you. 😡
I'm sorry😥
I always loved you 😘😘.

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18 Oct 2017 15:44:36
Gomez or Trent?

I was having this debate last night with my brother, he prefers Trent at RB but I think Gomez provides better balance defensively and still has enough about his game to contribute in attack aswell.

What are peoples thoughts?

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18 Oct 2017 16:09:24
Though I rate both it'd have to be Gomez for me mate.

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18 Oct 2017 16:17:12
Am hopeful in time we shall see Trent battle with Clyne at rbk and Gomez one of our 4 cbks with Vvd, Matip, Lovren. Both look very good players and seem very grounded. Long may it continue.

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18 Oct 2017 16:23:47
I think Gomez more naturally thinks along the way a defender should, where TAA is more naturally attacking. Both have great potential, though I don't think RB is either of their long term positions. For me I would play Gomez for the reasons you have mentioned Carra, though against teams more expected to park the bus TAA may be better option and still help develop both players.

Either way its good to see both get a chance.

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18 Oct 2017 16:13:26
Play both and remove lovren. simple!

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18 Oct 2017 16:51:04
I don't see any reason why we can't play both.

TAA has shown enough in the games he has played for us not to be too worried about him and Gomez looks better every game at the moment.

Gomez can't be any worse at CB than Matip or Lovren so I would put him in instead of one of them and give him time to forge a relationship.

I would also have TAA and Clyne fighting for RB. Like someone has said TAA especially when we need quality delivery from out wide to unlock stubborn defences.

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18 Oct 2017 17:30:49
At this moment in time its Gomez for me.

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18 Oct 2017 17:37:51
Gomez for me.

TAA is not ready at all. Watch him play again and you will see how much he struggles.

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18 Oct 2017 18:56:35
May see both of them in the team in the future but maybe neither at RB. Gomez could be our long term CB and TAA may end up further forward. who knows just glad we have them both.

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18 Oct 2017 18:57:12
In terms of RB, I would play Gomez vs teams that offer more of an attacking threat as he is a better defender than TAA even tho, he's not too shabby in the final third either with one assist vs Arsenal and a near-assist for Can vs Utd. TAA can play vs teams in games where we will have more of the ball and is very good in front of goal.

I do agree that TAA is Clyne's competition while Gomez should be at CB long term.

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18 Oct 2017 19:56:12
To me TAA is only playing RB to have game time. He's a midfielder all day and is where he should be play imo from next season onwards.

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18 Oct 2017 21:49:42
I think both players have an extremely bright future at the club. Both impress me more and more with every game. If I had to chose 1 now though Gomez just edges it for me.

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18 Oct 2017 21:50:48
Gomez for me, although I see him being a CB like many on here. I think we will see major investment at CB and RB next year as Clyne is not wanted according to the eds and Trent is definatley more suited either a wide or central midfield role. That said I feel comfortable with Trent at RB just feel Gomez is the superior defender.

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19 Oct 2017 02:04:15
I’m with Bingo

Gomez is clearly the more accomplished and mature defender while TAA struggles a bit in the air and positionally at times. On the other hand TAA looks a lot more natural when he gets forward, is a better crosser of the ball and has a decent shot on him.

While TAA’s learning the defensive side of the game I’d play Gomez at RB against the most teams, and TAA against the likes of Maribor. In those games Gomez can then be used at CB so he can gradually adapt to that position.

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19 Oct 2017 13:34:39
Terence Trent Darby all the way for me, I find Selina Gomez a little too saccharin.

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Maribor v Liverpool Match Review - A Liverpool Perspective

18 Oct 2017 10:21:24
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Maribor v Liverpool Match Review - A Liverpool Perspective

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18 Oct 2017 10:29:49
Spot on mate.

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18 Oct 2017 11:21:12
Great review that Ed 001. Honest and fair and great to see you mention not getting carried if we don't build on it.

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18 Oct 2017 12:00:58
Marvelous review Ed01 😘.

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18 Oct 2017 13:17:15
Just wanted to say, thanks for the reviews Ed001, thoroughly enjoy reading them and the longer articles. keep them up!

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{Ed001's Note - cheers everyone, thank you!}

18 Oct 2017 14:36:04
Ed001, why do you think klopp keep playing henderson in deeper role in other matches when it is quite obvious that Can play better in that role and probably henderson would perform better in like box to box role?

Did henderson prefer to play in deeper position?

And do you think it is possible that henderson and Can will be switch with each other?

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{Ed001's Note - I think it is mainly because of Henderson's injury.}

18 Oct 2017 15:16:27
Could we possibly have player ratings (/ 10) included in your match reviews from now on ed?

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{Ed001's Note - I guess so, if I remember.}

18 Oct 2017 17:55:43
Is there nothing that can be done with Hendos injury Ed001? No room for sentiment here - if it's always going to restrict him then we should probably let him go for the good of the team! sorry Hendo fans 🤔.

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{Ed001's Note - it should clear up on its own eventually.}

18 Oct 2017 19:05:41
Good read, Ed. Make no mistake, Maribor may be poor BUT they are no slouches. Their first appearance in the CL group stages was in 2001 when they eliminated Lyon (who were on the rise in France) at the time. They have been in the CL multiple times since then and NO English team has won there ever in the CL.

We went there, completely respected their pedigree and their team, respected the game and gave them the hammering they deserved while at the same time, being 100% concentrated, no mistakes, no sloppiness and job done. In games like that if you are professional, you win 1 to 10-0. If you start mucking about, you either win 3-1 or draw 1-1 as Spartak did. Well done, Klopp and redmen!

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18 Oct 2017 21:41:25
Good post that Bingo lad.

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18 Oct 2017 09:39:25
Just thought I'd say, James Milner last night looked fantastic.
Okay it was weak opposition, but I think against the lesser teams He should start from now on instead of Hendo.
We don't need sidewards passing in these games we need all out attack and he was a big part in that 7nil.
Shocked me, well done Milly.

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18 Oct 2017 10:19:30
I think he should start against spurs on sun CAN looked better last night with Milner in the team if hendo is still carrying an injury give him a rest for a few games.

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18 Oct 2017 13:17:37
Until he makes a wrong pass and everyone is calling for his head as usual.

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18 Oct 2017 13:33:35
I saw nothing special from Milner yesterday - against better opposition his mistakes would have been punished and his best moves were nothing we haven't seen Hendo do even during this below par season.

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18 Oct 2017 15:19:37
hjikle i respect your views on Milner but does it make sense to keep playing hendo if he's carrying an injury i think it's unfair on the player himself.

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18 Oct 2017 18:26:23
redsteve - if Hendo is carrying an injury then by all means I'd be happy to go with Milner against more attacking teams and Grujic against more defensive teams until he has recovered. I always think that unless a player is really something else (Coutinho level minimum) then they will not be as good with an injury as another PL level player is without one. But if Hendo was actually just being managed after playing a lot of games recently after a long injury (including 90mins in both England games), then I'd prefer seeing Hendo back vs Spurs.

Also worth remembering that Milner is almost 32 and just played a full game. Whether he will have the juice to give the same energy on the weekend against a team that will require him to track back a lot more AND who will spread the play a lot wider with attacking full backs is a big question.

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18 Oct 2017 19:08:50
Spot on, Hijkle. I would put Hendo back in vs Spurs as he has been playing well of late vs LC and Utd. He may have just needed a rest so he'll be fresh for Spurs cos we need his energy vs Spurs in midfield where Spurs simply have not been able to match us hence, we are undefeated against them in 9 games in the PL.

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18 Oct 2017 19:41:45
Hjikle ta for the reply to my post you made some good points hopfully we get the 3 points Sunday fancy us to beat them.

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18 Oct 2017 20:10:44
Pretty sure that Milner is more than fit enough to play 90 mins on a Tuesday night and then again on a Sunday afternoon mate, even at 32! 👴🏻😂.

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19 Oct 2017 02:21:40
He looked like his old self again, the player I though we were getting from City a couple of years ago.
That was easily his best showing for us.

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