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Premier League Preview Sunday 17th December 2017

17 Dec 2017 07:07:39
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17 Dec 2017 05:32:47
I really want Can to stay. I think he and keita are the near future engine room of our midfield and could be for multiple years. Hendo, lallana and Milner all slowing down.

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17 Dec 2017 05:05:35
I think it is fair that we all want the same thing, and that is to win the EPL.

The club lost it's way starting with Souness taking over from Kenny, Roy still having the bootroom intact and then being sent packing, Houllier and Rafa dismantling the bootroom, Moores holding the club back with his greed, selling to H and G who leveraged the club at the banks, FSG having to pick up the pieces and managers who could not quite get to grips with the massive mountain they had to climb to try get the club back to the top.

The club is to blame for falling behind but I at this point I do see a light at the end of the tunnel.

Let's face it people, the club has been through turbulent times since we last won the title.

This season is what it is. Too much inconsistency. Far too many draws. City have left everyone behind this season. We need to work on finishing top 4 and getting as far as possible in the CL.

Keep the faith.

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17 Dec 2017 04:45:56
Hi guys. In 2014 it was estimated that there are 580 million Lfc fans globally. Now that amount has to be increased with the Arrival of Salah. Imagine if each of us could contribute just 1 pound towards the transfer budget!

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17 Dec 2017 05:31:07
Hey that's almost 3 New Zealand dollars. lol I'd be willing to put at least 5 $NZ towards owning the club!

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17 Dec 2017 04:07:03
It's a fair point that Man City have two 20mil + players for each position on the pitch, but if more of our players consistantly put in a 90 minute shift we'd be much closer to them, two key culprits that spring to mind are Can and Coutinho - not because they're the only ones, but because when they do put in a solid shift they change games. Seems to me they avoid a lot of criticism because they manage to do just enough. I wouldn't be too gutted to see them both go in January. With Lallana coming back and Keita next summer we would only need one replacement to come in I reckon. Looking forward to the game tommorrow - C'mon the reds.

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17 Dec 2017 04:28:51
Can? Huh!

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17 Dec 2017 07:31:42
Not being able to defend has cost us dearly.

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16 Dec 2017 23:31:12
A question to Ed001 - I read the other day about Bielsa leaving Lille. I know how highly you rate him, as I do too, I was wondering how you feel about the chaotic time he was there? Very poor form, and bought a lot of players in over the summer. Such a shame - curious to hear your thoughts.

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{Ed001's Note - that is just the way he is. He is a genius with fantastic ideas but he is too intense and chaotic for club football. Thing is, if he had everything laid out to his way of thinking, the way Pep has at Man City, it would be fine, but no one else has that luxury. Though Lille do now have a fantastic training facility he had a big hand in the set up of. Lille were never ready for someone like him.}

16 Dec 2017 23:38:46
Fans talking about fourth. We should be talking about challenging for the league. I've held my tongue through out and will keep it that way until the very end of the season with my views especially regarding klopp.
What I will say though is that we are worlds away from city. "we're only two central defenders and a keeper away". Good luck finding two quality centre backs in Europe and then hoping they settle and perform. Everything's clicked for city and they have the personnel and a fantastic manager.
BTW Van dijk has been a blessing in disguise and hopefully it keeps that way. That being he remains a Southampton player.

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17 Dec 2017 01:23:42
No one is challenging for the league it’s only one team. City also have a load more money than us and have had for years. So have Utd and Chelsea do if you think we should all of a sudden be better than last seasons champions and Utd then I think that’s abit delusional tbh. If we can finish top 4 again and have a good run in both cups we’re still in. Get keita in. Keep salah.

Hopefully a cb and then we’ll see. I think top 4 again this season is massive. Shows consistency we’ve been lacking. I think Klopp is building something here. Couple more pieces and we’ll be v competitive next season. Thinking that we should be on this city teams level right now is crazy.

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17 Dec 2017 01:27:07
Oh and joe Gomez will be a top centre back I reckon so we need one. Give Karius or Ward the rest of the season if not good enough get a keeper. And another Lucas to protect the back four. And let the boys fly forward.

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17 Dec 2017 01:15:41
To be fair Big Al everyone else in the premier league is a worlds aparts from city . as you said everything clicked for them and yes in big part its to do with the money they spend but also big credit due to their manager . the way he transformed the likes of Stones, Sterling and even Delph, we all knew Bruyne was a good player but working with Pep he just gone to another level, some of the passes today were Messi like.

One point though, their defence is n't that great, under pressure they do makes as many mistakes as our back four, and their goal keeper, good distribution of the ball, but is he really any good in being a keeper . I don't know, the ball is hardly at his of the pitch for us to know.
We are not just 2 defenders and away, we are 5/ 6 quality players away.

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17 Dec 2017 02:05:18
There defence has improved massively due to having a quality keeper to help out they’re not quite an error waiting to happen as we are.

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17 Dec 2017 02:19:37
We were never in the title race as long as the window shut without strengthening the defense. I remember people said before the start, Pep overcoach players and makes it complicated. Right now I don’t even know what does that even mean. They ll spend even more next season courtesy of more income from this season. How could we challenge next season?

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17 Dec 2017 02:20:18
Agree, city is having a superb year. It is what it is. We lack consistency but at least our inconsistency this year is ending in a tie and not losing. I get it that for some that is not good enough but it is progress. If you take out mings and lovren we could easily be second. Top four, back to back champion league, a good run in the CL and maybe a trophy in a cup and that will be heck of a year.

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16 Dec 2017 21:08:10
So a win tomorrow will place us in 4th with exactly half the season played. Not all doom and gloom hey lads.
Unless we lose, then it will be the end of the world.

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16 Dec 2017 21:14:37
Just realised it's not exactly half the season. egg on face.

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16 Dec 2017 21:15:37
I don't see top 4 as progress this season. We have to start winning something.

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16 Dec 2017 21:16:41
I'm happy overall to be honest carra. I, like the majority was gutted about the past 2 results but this is football, it's not always fair lol let's bounce back with a dominant performance tomorrow! fingers crossed.

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16 Dec 2017 21:44:40
With you all the way Ron.

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16 Dec 2017 22:17:55
Do you not see maintaining top 4 for the second season in succession as progress? It's far harder to get top 4 when you are playing twice a week.
If we get top 4 again this season then we will again become stronger in the summer.
Qualifying for the champions league a few times in succession is the only way we will get back on the map to sign the players required to consistently push for titles/ trophies.
The last couple games have been a disappointment but the season as a whole so far is around the level of expectation. We cannot compare us or anyone to City as they have been unbelievable this season.

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16 Dec 2017 22:31:46
Getting into the top 4 consistently is key for me - we can’t progress until the team consistently plays in the CL and we haven’t had that for years. It also will improve visibility of the club globally, mean we’re in a position to challenge most years, and give the team confidence to go out an win a cup or two.

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16 Dec 2017 23:10:33
Usual stuff don’t pick up the wins against the bottom half clubs that the real big boys will pick up 99/ 100. Those results are why the likes of City and Chelsea win titles.

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16 Dec 2017 23:30:39
We can d both, Ron. However, judging from the fact that we have only been in the CL twice in 9 years, top 4 for a second season in a row is progress, no doubt. I love trophies too BUT if I had to pick between the top 4 and an FA Cup, I would pick top 4 if I can't have both for a second season in a row if I can't have both. Arsenal had the FA Cup instead of the CL last season and believe me, Wenger would gladly trade places with us. Consistent CL is progress for me as we continue to build. However, one game at a time and B'Mouth will NOT be easy.

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16 Dec 2017 23:56:46
I thought title challenge was the goal for this year?

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17 Dec 2017 01:18:43
Top 4 this year is much tougher than last year, so if we get there again, it definitely is progress . and as some of the posters have already said, being in the champions league year in year out is very good base for us.

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16 Dec 2017 22:49:20
I agree with Cara and grobs on this. What’s happened to the ever optimistic Ron Keague? I think considering it’s a big 6 instead of 4 these days and we’re in and out it’s a bit of progress getting top four two years on the bounce. Obvs I want us to win things but we still have a chance of the FA Cup and a fantasy champs league. It’s imperative that we finish top 4 with keita coming and to keeping hold of our better players. Just hope the weak spine gets sorted for a good go next season.

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16 Dec 2017 20:17:31
Ed007 I remember when we got beat by city and Celtic by PSG I tried to compare City to PSG and you shot me down saying PSG were the best in Europe. Feeling a little silly now eh?

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{Ed007's Note - I have no idea what you're talking about and yes I do think PSG are the best team in Europe this year and it'll take a couple of great performances for anyone to stop them winning the CL. Until they meet or the CL is decided you're post doesn't really make much sense.}

16 Dec 2017 20:57:33
I'm not getting involved with the argument, but I can't see PSG winning the CL at all.

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16 Dec 2017 21:14:51
PSG are indeed a great team they have arguably the best midfield in Europe as well as attack, it's all debatable but I also just cannot see them winning the CL. Their biggest test is Real Madrid, if they beat them then I'd change my opinion and would put them as potential winners. That game will be like a CL final, one would've imagined both PSG and RM in the final.

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{Ed007's Note - I agree with that, it'll take someone like Real Madrid to beat them and even though they're not playing at their best this season they know how do win the CL. I wouldn't discount Bayern Munich stopping them if PSG get through Madrid and they meet again.}

16 Dec 2017 22:03:46
Yeah true, Bayern have that trait of upsetting teams pretty easily at times but I personally don't think they'd get past PSG to be honest with that team, any team will find it difficult to. The only advantage id say a team such as Real has over them is experience in the CL but PSG will be confident and to me do have the better team. I really see a City v PSG final if PSG get past Real, now that'd be an interesting one, I think PSG would do it though.

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16 Dec 2017 23:31:26
Personally I don’t think either Real Madrid nor PSG nor Manchester City will will the Champions League this season. I think we’re all going to be surprised when we see the real winner this season.

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16 Dec 2017 23:32:49
PSG is loaded and they will be there or thereabouts this season if they can do RM, which will be no easy task regardless oif their form domestically. They were poor in the last two seasons YET it did not stop them from winning the past two CL trophies back to back. It will be a great tie.

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17 Dec 2017 02:07:59
For the CL I would say us, city or Munich.

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16 Dec 2017 19:54:03
Spur's and Burnley dropping points today so hopefully it's third time lucky and we take advantage tomorrow.

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16 Dec 2017 20:44:05
Now when was the last time Liverpool actually took advantage?

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16 Dec 2017 20:53:11
That why I used the words hopefully and 3rd time lucky.

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16 Dec 2017 22:36:25
Hopefully my mate but got to get the job done tomorrow, last year showed with this fixture Bournemouth won’t give up so hopefully reds up for this tomorrow and get back in top 4.

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16 Dec 2017 23:33:08
Not exactly on the same level as Leicester winning the league, but Burnley finishing top 4 would be something.

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16 Dec 2017 23:33:29
I hope so, lads cos these draws are starting to do my head in.

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