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30 Mar 2017 12:52:35
Papers latest attempts at guessing the players LFC will target are -

Max Meyer
James Rodriguez
Riza Durmisi

Make of it what you will.

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30 Mar 2017 12:46:17
Ed What do you think will happen to Milner when we sign a left back? can't see him getting into the first 11 to be honest especially ahead of Wijnaldum and Lallana and for the wages he is on surely we can't let him sit on the bench doe he not need to go?

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{Ed001's Note - I expect him to want to leave if he is not guaranteed first team football.}

30 Mar 2017 05:01:02
I always try and be positive (unless I'm looking at a naked pic of Ed's 001) but I can't help but think if we'd only won 3 more games this season what could have been? Southampton away, City away and Swansea at home were proper heartbreakers, 3 games that on the day we should have won given how they panned out. That would have given us 7 more points and hope of glory. Shoulda woulda coulda I suppose. Furthermore I'm incredulous at how detractors of klopp get on the 'he's not a tactician' bandwagon! Excellent man management can only get you so far in football you need some tactical acumen to be successful. Please guys give klopp some time and judge him at the end of next season. We're supremely fortunate to have this guy at the the helm let's not be Arsenal.

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30 Mar 2017 07:02:31
True this mate, gives hope though that we are for the first time in years genuinely just behind or on par with the best teams/ squads in the league. With a couple new recruits and no major losses we should be genuine title contenders on multiple fronts next season instead of blind optimism.

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30 Mar 2017 11:47:57
Could add bournemouth as one as well! TBH think this is a mental part on the players. Is a small part luck, a bigger part focus and the right mentality. for example lallanas miss at city was a mental slip and should have been buried 11 out of 10 times and firmino had a one on one and hit it straight at the keeper.

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29 Mar 2017 23:12:02
Hello 'the ever so hardworking and patient' Ed's. Read recently about Liverpool's contract negotiation with Lovren and how they have reopened talks after failing to reach a conclusion earlier in the year. My question (s) goes as follows;
1) Do players ever take a salary reduction, if they haven't been able to establish themselves at the level that was expected?
2) In situations like these, where there is a general public opinion (and some respectable opinions, such as of Ed1) that the player is not upto the club standard, does the Club use that to offer a contract with a reduced salary or does the Club have a completely different way of approaching that?
3) What kind of things (metrics), if any, are used by the player (or Agent) and Club to determine the new contract value? I am guessing there is definitely off-field appeal and attraction considered, but I might be wrong.

Would love to hear thoughts of either Ed1 or Ed2.

Feel like its not said enough, but Thank YOU to all the Ed's for your selfless devotion to this site.

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{Ed001's Note - 1. Very rarely, usually they take lower pay elsewhere rather than stay. The only times I can think of, when a player has accepted a reduction, were in times of financial crisis for the club they played for.
2. Public opinion is never considered or used.
3. The agent and player will meet and set an amount between themselves based on other contracts for similar players, club's financial situation etc. The off field attraction is not involved, except when it comes to image rights, which is not really a salary based deal anyway.}

29 Mar 2017 22:44:32
Depressing to hear we've started contract talks with Lovren, thought we were leaving the years of mediocrity with klopp at the helm. Why are we offering him a contract as he is simply not good enough, lost for words. A truly awful decision.

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29 Mar 2017 22:58:08
Sakho is that you?

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29 Mar 2017 23:11:50
Contact only means more money these days if the club sell .

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29 Mar 2017 23:18:13
This kind of attitude is just childish. Get behind our players. We all know Lovren has his ups and downs but it doesn't give you the right to dig into someone who has been a good professional for us. No lack of commitment from him.

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29 Mar 2017 23:19:24
Not a bad backup option but should no way be starting 11 imo, the defence is our biggest problem and he is at the heart of it.

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29 Mar 2017 23:22:07
is that like the contract we negotiated with suarez before we sold him? anywho, that is a lot of being sad for no reason bro!

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29 Mar 2017 23:43:15
Look guys, I'm all for the idea of protecting his value to keep the sale price up, but to be giving him a pay rise. Insanity, he's one the main reasons why we have been awful defensively for the last few years. No agenda here just don't rate him and can't understand why he's being rewarded for years of utter appalling defending.

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30 Mar 2017 00:39:47
Mignolet also got a new 5yr contract last season.

These 2 must have the best agents in history.

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30 Mar 2017 04:38:08
Or pics of Kloppo 'greasing' Ian Ayre's Harley!

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29 Mar 2017 19:01:03
Three issues with a squad that lacks depth:
1. injuries
2. Loss of form
3. Player fatigue

Sadly, we have been victim of all three. Had we not, I think we could have pulled off what Leicester did last year.

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29 Mar 2017 20:10:55
Injuries are part and parcel of the game. We aren't the only sufferer. Arsenal has been dealing with it from decades.

Loss of form is subjective : We couldn't beat a well organized team who sit back and counter, If that's the excuse you are making.

Fatigue: No way this should effect us. We were out from all possible competition long ago. No CL and No EL. Totally unacceptable excuse.

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29 Mar 2017 20:33:07
Our squad has much More depth than leicester though so it's not the best comparison. They were fortunate with injuries, mainly with Kante staying fit. But loss of form and inconsistency does continue to plague us. Whether that's down to the manager or players remains to be seen. We are still a pretty young squad to be fair.

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29 Mar 2017 21:36:58
Agree with you Harry. You have suddenly become very sensible. Long may it continue.

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29 Mar 2017 23:22:34
that's why what leicester did last year was magical.

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29 Mar 2017 23:57:42
And why LC cannot replicate it., Faith.

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30 Mar 2017 00:32:12
We unfortunately played Leicester 2 weeks too late.
All the press uproar about sacking a manager who won them the league and was Still in the latter stages of the champions league caused the team to galvanise together.
The senior players who the press blamed for Ranieries dismissal rallied around Shakespeare and found the 10% that had been missing in their prem. Form this season.

That been said we still played bad.

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29 Mar 2017 16:02:11
Hi, quick question for ED02 if possible. Do clubs have a customer relationship manager to deal purely with agents? with it being such an integral part of the business I assume this would be important? Love the sharkopod by the way. You have intriguing multi media skills.

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{Ed002's Note - No not a Customer Relations Manager. Normally it would be the Sporting Director who deals with agents - previously Mr Ayre did it.

Thanks for the comment about the Sharkopod.}

29 Mar 2017 21:22:27
Would it be difficult for someone like Edwards, who I assume hasn't previously been involved in such situations, to get involved and complete deals?

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29 Mar 2017 14:25:59
A question for ed001, why do people think clyne is one of the best full backs in the league. I mentioned that he isn't good offensively and defensively. The people there reacted as if I had committed a crime against humanity!

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{Ed001's Note - I have absolutely no idea. I remember saying the same when he was at Palace and Southampton, he has not improved, but he is even more highly rated. I just don't get it. I suppose because most people only watch highlights and even those that watch the matches tend to follow the ball.}

29 Mar 2017 18:30:01
Spot on, he's been very average for us. Vastly overrated, due to his pace he's been let off criticism. Going forward he offers nothing, his passing is beyond average. Always slows down the attack. Been at fault for several goals this season. Really expecting TAA to displace him next season.

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29 Mar 2017 20:11:47
He has pace and that's what keeping him at the club. Klopp loves who runs fast.

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29 Mar 2017 20:49:46
His delivery is shocking from wide areas.

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30 Mar 2017 00:02:09
Wrong again, Harry. Klopp does not value running a lot if you are a headless chicken. If that was the case, Ibe and Smith (who can run a lot) wouldn't be at B'Mouth right now. Klopp doesn't think that much of Clyne and that is a fact. Why? He wanted him replaced last summer as Ed said cos he knows he's not good enough. He's only here cos Klopp can't move him YET. TAA has more ability and end product than Clyne will ever have so your snide remark at club is bogus.

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29 Mar 2017 13:51:31
Ed I see Chelsea have a successful affiliation with Vitesse in the dutch league as they send their young players there to get experience playing with teammates.
I was wondering if liverpool have any affiliates like this? I think I remember seeing us signing an affiliation with a Uruguayan club after buying Coates forgive me if I am wrong. Is there any Clubs in England we are affiliated with and do you think it is a good option to send our youngsters to these clubs to play competitive football?

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{Ed002's Note - No, Liverpool has no affiliated clubs that they send players to on loan. Some clubs have one or more agreements (Chelsea have several such agreements).}

29 Mar 2017 14:48:13
I think it would be a great idea it gives the youngsters experience playing competitive football alongside teammates on loan from the same club. I think a team like Huddersfield under Wagner would be ideal. Cheers Ed.

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29 Mar 2017 15:10:14
A season in the championship doent prepare a player to be in the PL. If we had such a deal we would need to follow Chelseas moodel and have it in a league that's at least top of their country.

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29 Mar 2017 15:38:11
Doesn't Klopp have a manager friend at Huddersfield where something similar might be possible?

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{Ed002's Note - It is not something that is the responsibility of the manager to sort out with his friends.}

29 Mar 2017 15:43:28
The championship is a much harder league than the dutch league hjikle.

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29 Mar 2017 16:13:44
Just out of interest, how many of Chelsea's loan players who went to Vitesse are now playing in their first team?

It is not a trick question, I genuinely do not know. I am just skeptical of there actually being any benefit to this "affiliation".

It is just that from where I am sitting their entire starting XI and most of the subs bench are signed players at an average cost of about £25-30m. Correct me if I am wrong though.

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29 Mar 2017 17:43:37
I'm tending more towards Adam (and Ed001) on this. At first I really envied Chelsea's loan system, and from what Ed002 has said, they properly kept in touch with their loanees, not like we have done in the past.

However, it does seem to be hoarding young talent for profit rather than developing players for your first team. Correct me if I'm wrong but the only loanees of recent times that have made the first team are Courtois (courtesy of AM rather than Vitesse) and Zouma? The rest seem to be filling the profit coffers once they have worked through their apprenticeship, a prime example being De Bruyne who was sold on for a large profit following a loan spell.

I would rather more players broke into the first 11 and then you are building an academy system, with loans where appropriate, which makes your club more financially secure in the future, and with an ethos being built at every youth level.

Of course, you could argue that making £5-£10m profit off each player whilst they spend their late-teens on loan is equally beneficial, financially, as (for example) 3 sale profits would pay for a ready made first teamer to be bought in at their peak.

However, it just doesn't seem quite right to do it that way (albeit its a great way to accumulate wealth in Champ Manager! ) .

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29 Mar 2017 19:51:39
Out of curiosity. What's the point in keeping the youngsters at U23 level? What would benefit a player like Stewart who is 23, Bench role or proper league appearance on loan? Let's look from the players point of view and not club!

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29 Mar 2017 20:45:13
Zouma doesn't count. St Etienne sold him to Chelsea in the Jan period but kept him on loan for rest of season. Whereupon he joined Chelsea first team the following season.
However Ake will probably make the grade so he should be included
Problem is it apparently takes around 10 years for changes to an academy to actually show. So would expect players to start coming off the conveyor belt now.

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{Ed025's Note - conveyor belt phil?..its full of cobwebs mate.. :)

29 Mar 2017 22:30:36
Good point Phil, not Zouma but Ake looks good.

I know what you mean re the 10 year horizon, Rafa made the changes 10 years ago. This is where a DoF would come in useful to provide continuity, as in the intervening 10 years we have had 5 managers, so plenty of chopping and changing.

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29 Mar 2017 23:52:55
I genuinely hate it when people say "youth" and "profit" in the same sentence. any club should have a vested interest in developing their youth for profit. the people with red mist in their eyes are missing the fact that if their investment is good enough to improve their own first team then that is obviously very very good. and if they end up being duds but someone will buy them for more than you paid then that is obviously very very good too!

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29 Mar 2017 13:09:50
Hi
Have recently seen a few talents come through ....

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{Ed002's Note - Try the European pages please.}

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