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16 Jan 2018 07:42:36
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16 Jan 2018 07:42:36
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16 Jan 2018 07:38:43
Looks like migs is considering his future at the club. As he says in a interview over night that he needs to think about his future as there is a World Cup coming up.

Looks like karius is getting a run in the team.

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16 Jan 2018 07:29:00
Hi Ed's, second time poster love you long time reader.

So, there was a photo on Instagram with Can and Lovren In, I believe and the other Liverpool players comments were suggesting that someone in the photo had come into a some money, maybe a new bumper contract. Does anyone know for sure what the players were referring to? I thought there would of been more made of this because reading between the lines it would suggest that Can has signed a new contract with us. Especially since everyone really rates Can since he decided he might leave.

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{Ed001's Note - it could be anything mate, no point worrying about those kind of things as you can read a billion things into them.}

The Week In Football

16 Jan 2018 05:52:04
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, The Week In Football

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16 Jan 2018 06:23:30
Good read ed, cheers! I can’t believe that ref in France though. I wonder if he’ll ever take charge of a game again. I shouldn’t but I had to laugh when he actually sent the player off! I bet he regretted that moment of red mist before the game ended. What a stupid stupid thing to do!

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{Ed001's Note - thanks mate, I still can't get over that ref either. The more you watch it the stupider and more unbelievable it gets. Even his excuses are embarrassing.}

16 Jan 2018 07:23:58
is this new ed001? i love this and wouldn't mind this to continue on a weekly basis! maybe u can start numbering them so we know which is which if it becomes a series!

short and sweet, fantastic.

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{Ed001's Note - sort of new. Before people starting sending in stuff, this is what I used to write for the site all the time, these kind of short news articles.}

16 Jan 2018 07:26:35
Complete disbelief. The ref kicks the player for incidental contact. Then, sends him off. The only thing worse and more embarrassing than his conduct was his "apology".

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16 Jan 2018 07:42:11
And the ref actually changes direction when running; causing the coming together.

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15 Jan 2018 21:34:35
Dear Eds,

Thoughts about the use of social media by footballers? If possible it would be great to here a pro and con about it.

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{Ed001's Note - I honestly can't think of any pros to it. But then I do not like social media, it is not social and just brings out the worst in people.}

16 Jan 2018 07:27:09
If you are a player, social media should be nowhere near your way of life, IMO.

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15 Jan 2018 20:55:06
Ed 001 what is your opinion on Carlos tevez? Ever wanted him at Liverpool? Could he have been one of the best if he wasn't such an idiot?

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{Ed001's Note - when he arrived in England I would have taken him all day long, he was far too good to be involved in a relegation battle and worked incredibly hard for the team too. He was one of the best for a short period. Shame he was such a dick and all about money. Plus he had the worst agents of all who were not interested in his wellbeing or what was best for him.}

16 Jan 2018 07:28:08
Ironically his then agent, was Kia Jorabchian, the now agent of a certain Phil Coutinho.

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{Ed001's Note - exactly.}

15 Jan 2018 23:52:44
Following on from watching Bobbys goal and comparing it to Robbies v Utd in 95 have you seen his first goal, cut in from the left and blasted it past Schmeichel at the near post just like Sane v Karius, just shows how bad Scmeichel was, bet he was hung drawn and quartered as well. nope? That's probably because he was one of the best ever keepers and he too was human and made mistakes by being beaten at the near post, do you think rat boy Neville slated him for that?

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16 Jan 2018 03:04:43
Scmeichel was pundit for Australian coverage of match. He said it was an inexcusable error Karius made and if he made it he wouldn’t talk to anyone for a month. funny how they forget. Perfect in retirement.

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16 Jan 2018 03:07:16
Whilst I respect the sentiment and agree that Karius should be given time, I dislike the comparison. Schmeichel to
Karius, really? Even at that point in his career he had helped United to two league titles, and was one of the best goalkeepers in the world. A mistake from schmeichel isn’t the same as a mistake by Karius. Karius makes them quite often, almost as often as Mignolet, hence why they both get heavily criticised. Karius should be allowed to hold down the number 1 spot for the rest of the season and be given the chances that have been afforded to Mignolet but the double standards should stop. If that is Mignolet he’d be getting lynched, and we’re not talking about a guy who’s just made a few errors in Karius, let’s be real. I’ll back him and the managers decision to play whoever in goal but neither are good enough by my estimation, and if we ended up losing yesterday post like this wouldn’t exist. Dose of reality.

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16 Jan 2018 03:17:56
Similar but not the same. Robbie didn't give him a chance whereas Karius himself knows he should have saved it. His reaction said it all.

He does deserve a chance though if we're not buying this window.

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16 Jan 2018 07:31:48
I will not compare both GK's as that is a non issue, IMO. The shot could have been saved and Karius was PISSED afterwards. That shows that he cares and he has the right attitude. Migs has been beaten at his near post more times than I care to remember and after each goal, he would sulk, feeling sorry for himself. I want my players pissed off when they make mistakes. Karius will now get his chance and it is now ALL up to him/ The question now is will he get the support of the fans cos judging by the right bile and dross he is receiving on SM right now, I doubt it.

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15 Jan 2018
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Tree and lights still going strong

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15 Jan 2018 22:59:54
Easter lights I hope.

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15 Jan 2018 23:00:37
That right there ladies and gentlemen is our tree of success. As long as his bulbs don't blow, we'll win it all! :)

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15 Jan 2018 23:38:20
We must build a religion around this tree. So let it be. Amen.

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16 Jan 2018 00:35:25
Hi my beloved LFC SUPPORTERS, new to the site and love checking everyday to see all the guys and eds valuable opinions. I must say if you keep an open mind and check these comments you really see everything from a much better angle. Anyways greatest win of the season on Sunday and long may it continue. I thought the guys put a shift in and were proud to wear the LFC badge. I really like Klopp and I know he makes some seemingly odd decisions sometimes but I always seem to make an excuse in his defence. Carry on the good work eds and the rest.

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15 Jan 2018 23:07:00
Does Stevie Wonder decorate your tree Ed001? 😆.

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{Ed001's Note - pretty much, I take my glasses off and just throw everything on it. Without them on Stevie Wonder has better eyesight than I do!}

15 Jan 2018 21:56:38
Ed, can we have a poll 'do you want to sign a new keeper this January or would you rather stick with Karius? '
I'd go for the latter personally purely because he deserves a run of games to prove himself.

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{Ed033's Note -


Liverpool Keeper Poll

15 Jan 2018 22:04:10
Looks like Karius visits this site and is voting for himself.

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15 Jan 2018 22:05:31
Karius for me too. Give him time.

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15 Jan 2018 22:19:29
Now that he’s in for the season I’ll give him my full support and really hopes he takes his chance. I fear the worst though.

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{Ed0333's Note - I really can’t see how most people can’t see how Karius is better than Migs in all departments. Do I think Karius is brilliant? No he’s not? Do I see him as our No 1 keeper next season? No I don’t but ffs sakes people he’s better than that the imbecile we’ve had for the last 5 seasons. I fully expect a shiny new keeper in the summer until then let’s give pretty boy some support and you never know he may just surprise us.

15 Jan 2018 22:19:56
That’s a bit embarrassing Klavy. I hope you are not judge d the same way in your life!

Give him a chance he deserves bavking and support.

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{Ed0333's Note - hear hear mate

15 Jan 2018 22:21:28
Don't see why everyone is so against Karius - would be happy if we sold mignolet don't want to see him on the bench even.

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{Ed0333's Note - yep

15 Jan 2018 22:24:49
It's a terrible shame some of the so called fans were down on him very badly at the start of the season because the guy really needed a full season to gain experience and boost confidence in himself and others around him.

Give him the chance he deserves he has a lot of excellent qualities.

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15 Jan 2018 22:22:23
Your not going to get a decent keeper in January so obviously go with karius and see what your options are in the summer.

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15 Jan 2018 22:51:58
Please call me up on it if I'm wrong come the summer but I really believe Karius will come good, I think he will come good enough to a point we're not looking for a new GK. Many will disagree which is fine but I think with confidence on his side (should us loyal fans support him) and regular playing time, he will learn from the mistakes he makes and really impress us.

I have really high hopes for him, I just don't like seeing people insulting him like I have seen today, this will only push him backwards, he will lose confidence and we might end up with Migs again. Let's stand with him, he's one of us, he needs our support let's give him it. Sure there's a chance he will fail, this happens, if he does so be it, he still doesn't deserve to be insulted though.

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15 Jan 2018 23:03:48
Squiresy, I said I’d give him my backing and support and hope he comes good. What’s embarrassing about that?

I’ve been critical of him and for good reaspn because he hasn’t shown anything yet when he's played. He’s the only goalkeeper who I’ve ever seen kick a goal kick out for a corner and just don’t understand why so many on here think he will come good.

I’ll be delighted if he does. Mignolet is nothing special but I think he is better than Karius. Yes, Mignolet’s had 5 years and I feel that if we gave Karius 5 years we’d be talking about him in the same way as we do about Migs now.

Nothing against Karius, it’s just an opinion. For the first time in years I feel we are going places and both keepers have the potential to jeopardise that. Personally I feel we need to spend what it takes to fill this vital position.

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15 Jan 2018 23:04:44
I voted for Karius. Reckon we wouldn't be able to sign anyone that much better immediately.
That being said, then why not give the lad a good run, he just might do well.

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15 Jan 2018 23:06:43
Surely a new keeper to come in wouldn't replace karius and it will be migonlet moved on.

People say karius needs to do better but it is hard to do better without the run of games. So the critism is harsh.

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15 Jan 2018 22:40:29
Spot on, Ed. Karius may not be experienced and maybe needs better
coaching and games to show what he can do BUT those who say Migs is better have IMO, become numb to his mistakes of which the Arsenal one was the last straw, IMO.

People have been against Karius cos they expected him to become DDG from the off and when that did not happen and having been traumatized by the Migs' horrible LFC career as a whole, they fear the angel they don't know and trust the devil they know. This is why you hear fans saying Migs' is slightly better than Karius whereas Karius would not have lasted a season let alone 4, had he been as dreadful as Migs for 4 seasons. Now whenever he plays, it's like people want him to make a mistake so that they can say, "I told you so". Pathetic reasoning, really.

I'm just happy Migs' is history so we don't have to deal with him anymore. Now it is time for Karius who will be auditioning for the position, take his chance and run with it. He will fail or succeed by his own hand and that is fine by me.

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{Ed0333's Note - exactly fella I mean at the very least he can’t be worse than Migs at best we’ve found a new No 1, well probably get somewhere in the middle if you ask me.

15 Jan 2018 23:14:31
Karius for me. Clearly better than Migs for me and deserves a run of games to try and claim the shirt. That said I do expect a top class keeper thos summer, however if Karius can replicate the life d of form that made us buy him then maybe other areas can be strengthened. Klopp is one to give players a chance as well so here’s hoping he can loose the nerves and step up.

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15 Jan 2018 23:49:17
The timing of us having vvd and starting to play Karius is a little harsh on Mignolet. But I'm not a big fan of his. Hopefully karius just needs games and confidence. Wish him all the best.

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16 Jan 2018 00:10:10
I think John Achterberg is as much of a problem as anyone else. His arrival coincides with Reina's dip in form. Mignolet hasn't really improved since coming in and Karius is a bit shaky.

I think Karius could be a really good keeper but it's clear that the position will be revisited in summer. Mignolet and Ward don't have a future, Karius will need to take his chance now or he will be replaced. Fingers crossed he does, he has all my support.

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16 Jan 2018 01:06:11
I voted for Karius, look at robo, majorly doubted by 99% of fans. Had a couple of games an looked rubbish, but now he has had a decent run of games he is really starting to outshine Moreno who was having a great season too (by his standards anyway)

I don’t understand why people think the same rule of 'needing a run of games to settle and be at pace' DOESN'T apply to goalkeepers. They still need to be up to pace with the game.

1 thing which has me worried.
Has Klopp made him the no.1 now to play him in the league games, with butter fingers (Migs) playing in the champions league? I seriously hope not xD
Karius for EVERY game we play now. I hope 🙈.

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{Ed0333's Note - well said mate

16 Jan 2018 02:30:15
IMO Migs needs to get sold in the summer (if not sooner) as he’s proven he’s not what we need. The side looks better with Karius in it - both keepers make mistakes but somehow the CBs seem to be more sure of their positioning, and whether Karius is coming for the ball or not and that’s a big factor in the overall defence. Ward should be backup but Karius should play the vast majority of the games for his confidence. Then in the summer we can look to bring in a new no.1 if he hasn’t made the position his own.

As for the coach, I’m sorry as I don’t know the guy but Achterberg has to go. If I was the head of the worst performing division in my company year on year for 6-7yrs then no way would I survive, some fresh blood would be brought in. I don’t know if it’s the players, the coaching, his inability to guide the selection decisions or just the inability to inspire confidence, but he’s clearly not helping identify the problem and address the situation and that’s his job, to fix the situation, and he’s failed. I’d bring in the best available GK coach ASAP. hopefully that would freshen things up, add a new perspective and help Karius’s confidence and then they’d be settled in before next season starts.

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{Ed0333's Note - there’s a lot of sense being talked today. Fully concur my good man.

16 Jan 2018 06:41:35
Probably be Mignolet back between the sticks on Monday.

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16 Jan 2018 07:20:04
There are basically two opinions of Karius. The first is 'he's not good enough either'. These guys are over critical of the keeper and focus on his mistakes but they are desperate to see Liverpool improve one of their biggest problems and are frustrated that Klopp has wasted another couple of years on a keeper that's done little to suggest he's anything but average.

The second opinion is 'he can't be worse'. The guys who think this are also desperate for Liverpool to fix it's biggest flaw but they're ready to accept pretty much anyone due to they're dissatisfaction with Mignolet. They overlook Karius' flaws and use arguments like 'he was the second best keeper in Germany' and 'the CBs are much more confident with him' both of which are sketchy arguments at best.

I'm in the former camp but I'll try to give Karius a fair run when he plays. I actually think he was fine on Sunday but fine is what we get with Migs most games. If Karius is going to have a Liverpool career that lasts longer than another four months he's got to be good and I don't think I've seen that yet.

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{Ed001's Note - actually there are 3 - I don't know if he is good enough or not but I am willing to wait and see how he gets on.}

16 Jan 2018 07:38:52
Spot on, SG. Corelation may not be causation BUT the trend lines you stated cannot be ignored. Karius was THE reason Mainz made EL footie for the first time in their history in 1'5/ 16. The guy was a top talent and no. 1 for the Germany Olympic team (along with Brandt, Meyer, Goretzka etc) . He comes here tho he broke his hand so that slowed him down BUT in any case, he looked clueless and and don't recognize him. Same with Reina who declined and so did Migs who got poorer as time went on. If we don't need a new GK then we definitely need a new GK coach.

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15 Jan 2018 20:42:36
Hi eds, reading that emre can may well sign a contract with us now, have you heard anything on this?

I also would like to ask about any possible return for sudo I liked him in his very few outings here I know it's probably a no chance but again reading these stories about a return.

And finally people need to get behind karius now he is number one at least untill next season and I think we need to believe in him remover de gea weren't great when he first started at united but look at him now, I'm not saying karius will have the same turn around in form or ability but these things happen

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - No, no and I agree}

15 Jan 2018 22:15:51
Talking about Karius and the disappointing first goal yesterday, yes it was bad but I was watching a few clips of when man city beat us 3_1 in 1981 and Grobbelaar was awful for 2 of the goals. It was a game I was at and I always remember the game on boxing day. Grobbelaar was very dodgy at first but his confidence grew and he ended up being a great keeper. So maybe the kid needs a break. We can't crucify players every time they make a mistake.

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15 Jan 2018 22:22:27
He's hardly played, he needs a run before being judged. It's like Lallana coming on making a mistake and everyone be like sell him!

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15 Jan 2018 22:45:12
Spot on, boys. The goal looked bad, for sure bUT I saw the goal again and again and regardless of the comedy of errors that happened before the shot by Sane, that shot was a true belter. It looked like a missile fired from 7 yards out and the ball was already past him before he knew it and could only parry it into his own net.

The hope now is that he learns from this quickly and take his chance. He always had my support cos I feel strongly that he got rolled by "fans" and the "pundits" who I will not name. It's his chance now and he has to take it, period.

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15 Jan 2018 23:00:06
Please do not compere karius with grobelaar, he made a mistake on occasion but made saves no other keeper could, in today's game he would be one of the best in the world.

The standard of keepers now is shocking, btw migs is better than karius by a long way.

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15 Jan 2018 23:11:14
Couldn't give more than one agree brover, wish I could, no keeper would have stopped it unless they were stood in the way, human reaction times make it physically impossible to stop that shot.
Pundits know and make lfc's GK issues a big deal, that weren't one for me.

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15 Jan 2018 23:24:38
77 ‘Migs is better than Karius’? Wow.

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15 Jan 2018 23:27:40
I don’t see how anyone can claim Migs is better than Karius. Karius may not have been great so far with us but he was voted by his peers as the second best keeper in Germany when we bought him, which behind Neuer and with the keepers in that league is no small feat. Since then he’s had injury disrupt his pre-season, made a couple of errors that he’s been crucified for, errors which by the way have only been sensationalised because of the already highlighted shocking standard of goal keeper he was trying to replace and never had a run of games to be fairly judged on. All this and he’s only 24 so lots of room for improvement. Migs in the other hand has consistently proven he is not good enough. I’m sure he’s a great guy and whiles he’s at Liverpool I will support him, and maybe you are right that Migs is better, but I certainly don’t think there’s enough evidence for that statement and I think Larius deserves a chance to prove himself.

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16 Jan 2018 00:24:40
There’s not much in it, neither would get in any of the other teams in the top 6 🤝.

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16 Jan 2018 01:01:37
You can see how much more confident the defenders are with karius in goal. He could potentially have done better for the Sane goal but look at how often they played it back to him and then he played balls forward to the advantage of our forwards. When Migs is in goal the defenders look nervous to pass back to him because they know how poor his distribution is.

The speed with which Karius distributes the ball is a vast improvement on what Mignolet offers.

Karius might not be a world beater but after years of Mignolet errors I'd much rather see Karius given a good run of games. If after that he's not up to it fine but at least give him a chance.

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15 Jan 2018 20:34:27
Eds n reds. now that's Karius is looking like getting a run of games, i would like to hear the kop pump him up a bit with a song. make him feel wanted by us and give him a bit of confidence. from the comments by Robertson saying hearing the crowd sing his name gave him goosebumps and obviously turned him into the energiser bunny haha it may very well give him that extra 10% to get him going. if it doesn't work then so be it, but atleast we can say we played our part to give him every chance. thoughts.?

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{Ed002's Note - It seems most people here want him gone as well.}

15 Jan 2018 20:45:59
Swing low sweet chariot


YNWA.

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15 Jan 2018 21:03:51
We have lost just one of the 22 Premier League and Champions League games that Karius has played for Liverpool since he arrived.

He has my full support, that’s for sure!

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15 Jan 2018 21:15:14
Mine as well, hopefully he grabs his chance.

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15 Jan 2018 21:18:13
It does seem that way Ed002. but those people should take a back seat until the end of the season and let the rest actually support him and just see what happens from here on in.

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15 Jan 2018 21:33:43
Song? For gifting the opposition goals and making his backline unsure? Come on guys, I'm okay that he gets the support he needs now that Klopp has decided to publicly endorse him as a No. 1 a second time in his short Anfield career. But why should the Kop gift him a song? For his good looks or for his contributions on the putch?

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15 Jan 2018 22:51:09
Disagree, Noski. The kid barely plays and when he does, he has good games and bad games BUT no rhythm. The kid needs to be playing and he will get his chance. It is up to him now, not me nor you as you clearly have no interest in supporting our player.

If you can you could bear a 29 yr old mistake in Migs for 4 season, riddled with more errors than any other GK in the PL during that span, I'm sure you can live with a young GK with up side and hope of improving for 4 months. I know I can.

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15 Jan 2018 23:42:13
Noski, the OP just gave you a reason why to sing a song. You seem more entitled and will give if you receive. Sounds like a customer. Good stuff.

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16 Jan 2018 01:53:15
BRover, irrespective of my personal view that Klopp has shielded Karius a lot and given him every opportunity to thrive, and irrespecrive of my personal view whether he'll ever make it as a No. 1 at Anfield or elsewhere, I agree that he should be given every opportunity to stake a claim for the shirt. But folks like Faithinworks going about being entitled is just plain ridiculous! Sing him a song, fly a plane over Anfield saying "I love you Karius. " Ridiculous! What makes a player deserve a song from the Kop? Fight for the shirt and show you care, and stop all these nonsense!

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