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20 Oct 2018 22:36:01
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20 Oct 2018 22:36:01
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20 Oct 2018 20:40:55
Still joint top. What I will say is Cardiff at home next in the prem so hopefully we'll do the business, city away to Spurs so maybe tonight's scrappy win might be better than we think.

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20 Oct 2018 21:01:54
hopefully we'll come out of that match without any long term injuries.

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20 Oct 2018 21:02:12
We did play like morons at times tonite but you're right, 3 points was all that mattered.

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20 Oct 2018 22:33:51
Roro, morons? Realy? Stopp with that nonsense, lad. Playing like morons would be going all gong-ho and then coming unstock in the last minute cos we were tired and could not finish the game you know, like we were doing last season when we had conceded 17 goals at this point back then.

Here, we played strategic football. We have a game on Wed in the CL where it is a must-win game and since we had injuries, no need to push the organisms to the limit. Sure, we had a couple of hairy moments BUT that's football esp. PL football. Again, Morons? This time last season, we had just gotten thumped by Spurs at Wembley with all the toys flying out of the pram and Klopp being penciled in for the sack. This season? We are joint top with City. We won. Move on.

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20 Oct 2018 18:14:30
Damn, how long into the season can we go without actually playing well!
So sloppy with the ball, making a team with 3 points look good!
Hudders probably deserve to be equal.

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20 Oct 2018 18:22:09
I honestly don’t give a toss as long as we keep winning. Our free flowing football will come. It’s most important to keep pace with city until we click into gear.

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20 Oct 2018 18:23:04
They're making us uncomfortable with their pressing, plus we've got a few players out there who haven't played much this season yet. Not only that, Huddersfield are actually an OK team, they've had a rough start to the league, playing pretty much all the bigger teams with in the first 8 games (Chelsea, City, Tottenham and Liverpool) .

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20 Oct 2018 18:23:11
Very poor first half so disjointed looks like these players don't know each other would be lost without Henderson.

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20 Oct 2018 18:28:38
Still It is better to win the league like this.

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20 Oct 2018 18:29:23
There is so much space were 3 on 3 upfront every time but we're doing nothing with the ball. If we come out second half with a bit more venom we'll get a couple more.
But if we Keep slowing it down then they'll bag one, it's coming! Even Allison is taking ages to pass it's very slow.

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20 Oct 2018 18:29:45
I hate to say this but lallana really shouldn’t be playing in that team he holds the ball up every time we look to counter and For Henderson common he wouldn’t even be on the City bench God I miss the ox.

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20 Oct 2018 18:46:47
Are we pacing ourselves this season.

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20 Oct 2018 20:14:48
I think since we've upgraded our defence, we tend to play at the back far more often than we should, inviting the opposition to press us.

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20 Oct 2018 20:46:44
Anyone that doesn't care about how bad we are playing as long as we get the 3 points are really short sighted. When the 3 points stop coming then you going to ask questions which is too late. 9 games in and we are getting worse while the teams around us are getting better. We really are lucky to be joint top.

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20 Oct 2018 20:50:09
End of the day we're getting the results needed, we should be proud of the team. No matter how we're playing, we're winning the majority so we should praise them. Imagine when the lads start to play how we know they're capable of? we'll be laughing so let's just sit back and enjoy the ride. We're winning the league, I said it 3 weeks before the season started and will continue to say it, City will have some bad luck and we'll smash it.

P.S. Ed1, if I were you I wouldn't be writing a match review, how anybody could sit and rewatch that is beyond me lol! hope you've had a good day mate!

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20 Oct 2018 20:50:10
3 points lads, stop the moaning. We will play better, especially when the International breaks are over but in the meantime they're grinding out results. Nobody will be complaining come May if were still at the top.

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20 Oct 2018 20:55:31
we played similar under rodgers under the 13/14 season then after Christmas turned the style on.

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20 Oct 2018 20:56:58
87red, if someone guaranteed we'd win the league playing like that then none of us would give a toss, but nobody can guarantee that so you then have to base your judgement in reality, and in reality title winning teams don't play in such a listless disjointed way, going forward we are not even doing the basics and it's very very concerning that we don't seem to be able to play (at times) simply 5-10 yard passes. Continue this way and we will come unstuck sooner rather than later.

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20 Oct 2018 21:12:39
I guess people missed the part in my post where I clearly stated AS LONG AS WE KEEP WINNING?

I’m not glossing over anything, we’re not playing well but we are joint top and have already played spurs and Chelsea away and played city.

The performances will come so we just need to grind out the wins until they do. I lost count the amount of times fergies Utd used to win games and you’d scratch your head wondering how on earth they won.

People need to have a word with themselves. Moaning, heaven bid if any of supported a team like Newcastle etc, they are a fan base who have reason to feel negative. For us it’s “we’re joint top, undefeated, conceded 3 goals in 9 games, oh poor us”.

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20 Oct 2018 21:50:21
The terriers played really well, there I said it.
no team has a god given right to win based on league position, 3 of our forward 6 changed for the match and we had several good chances to put the game to bed, we will play better.

If the terriers play like that against the other top teams they will get a result or two.

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20 Oct 2018 22:07:28
Idontlooklikeklopp, spot on.

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20 Oct 2018 22:16:52
I notice how Klopp brought up the same issue's with Huddersfield fixtures so far like I did earlier.

Great minds think alike and all that trumpet blowing stuff.

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20 Oct 2018
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Best way to start the day 💪⚽💖

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20 Oct 2018 16:35:09

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20 Oct 2018 18:29:58
Love it.

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20 Oct 2018 22:09:59
Fantastic mate.

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Review Of The Day 20th October 2018

20 Oct 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 20th October 2018

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20 Oct 2018 07:43:49
If anyone wants a laugh on this fine Saturday morning, Jermaine "Love Rat" Pennant was on the Jeremy Kyle Show!

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{Ed001's Note - I am ashamed the club signed that ****.}

20 Oct 2018 07:44:34
Thanks very much Ed mate, Id usually say I hope you will have a great day but I know you will when you witness us annihilate Huddersfield! :) .

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{Ed001's Note - let's hope so!}

20 Oct 2018 07:54:14
Me too Ed, me too. Cheers for the review by the way. I don't post much these days but I do still read the site.

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{Ed001's Note - glad to see you are still about mate. How are things?}

20 Oct 2018 08:51:45
Pennant on the JK show! That’s horrendous.
Shame Hazard is happy at Chelsea Ed001 - haha.

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{Ed001's Note - I just wish he was so happy he would shut up and concentrate on playing football. Why can't footballers keep their mouths shut and leave the deals to the agents they employ to do that?}

20 Oct 2018 09:52:48
Exactly Ed, took the words out of my mouth there mate, it really winds me up because it's happening far too often, players rambling on about BS instead of doing what they're meant to be doing which is simply playing bloody football. Attention seeking, spoiled brats the majority of them.

Good to see you on the site MK, your posts are missed mate, I hope the new job is going well for you and your family.

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20 Oct 2018 09:54:21
I'm taking my boys to the Cardiff Fulham match today. Warnock seriously does my head in, some of the crap he spouts is just embarrassing. I'll be happy once he's replaced.

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20 Oct 2018 10:08:55
Warcock shouldn't be in the sport at all welsh mate, he's an absolute disgrace.

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20 Oct 2018 11:31:07
Totally agree Ed001.One minute he’s flirting with Madrid, the next he loves walking along the Fulham Road.

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{Ed001's Note - it is just disrespectful. If he had given an interview saying as a kid he supported Real Madrid, that would have dropped the hint that he would be keen to play for them, without disrespecting Chelsea. There is no need to make comments about holding back on contract talks at all. He should avoid commenting on them, they should remain private.}

20 Oct 2018 12:00:30
Good thanks 001. Hope your back is feeling better.

Job's going really well, Salah. Long hours but it pays the bills! Thanks for asking. How's the recovery going?

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{Ed001's Note - fine now mate, just taught me a lesson, never put it off when it hurts.

Glad your new job is going well for you, I hope it is enjoyable as well as paying the bills.}

20 Oct 2018 11:34:58
Cheers ed001, Rummenigge has become embarrassing.

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{Ed001's Note - I just don't get the point in biting back. You can't win that way. The only thing you can do is back the manager and hope he wins matches. If he does, then the media will shut up.}

20 Oct 2018 12:30:48
Thanks Ed. Good to see MK on here again. Have a great day everyone.

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20 Oct 2018 13:12:46
Very happy to hear the job is going well MK. I'm getting better, much quicker than expected thanks for asking mate. Just not cleared for work yet which tbh I find BS but you know what it's like, to many formalities. Got to see not only a Dr but also a psychiatrist (spelling) next week, pile of bull*hit if you ask me but there you go.

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20 Oct 2018 16:33:13
Cheers ed, it’s much appreciated mate. Hope all is well with you. Hey mk, your posts are sorely missed from the site. Hope all is well with you as well.

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20 Oct 2018 21:51:06
You seem mentally sound to me salah. Good to see your name mk we miss you bud.

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19 Oct 2018 18:43:19
Not specifically Liverpool related but a discussion we were having in the pub earlier regarding contracts. Do you think it would make it more interesting if a player has to play the length of their contract. They can't be offered an extension by their current club, no one can bid for them but in the last month of their contracts they can listen to offers from both their current team and other teams. It was such an interesting debate that I thought I would bring it on here. It would certainly be entertaining in their last month and no drama throughout the contract so I'm for it in that sense, but players don't settle straight away, whether it be location, don't gel with the other players so I'm against it for that, but the more I think about it, the more I'm conflicted about the idea, just wanted to know what others think.

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19 Oct 2018 19:55:34
No way. Some players never get used to some styles, some players never hit the expectations and they will be stuck for years in a club they don't play. Aswell some people don't get on and they will be stuck tigether aswell. One big NO from me.

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19 Oct 2018 19:53:08
I see what you mean Welsh, it is a decent theory, it would work and it would have a subtle change on football that would completely change the feel of transfer season as most contracts run until the summer.


I quite like the transfer season, it is mental, everyday we are full of hope as we chase players, are linked with top stars and sign underwhelming players. Near on everybody didn't want AOC but now we love him. I wish he was available for selection, I think fekir was an Ox replacement. We need that driving forward, milner and Keita have a good go but the ox has quick feet and good end product. I think mo salah is missing him big time.

At the end of the day, we don't want players who don't want to be here. They seem to develop bad backs.

Footballers are the modern day circus. These kids leave home at 12 and never really settle in one place. They are constantly travelling with the circus from match to match. Let's not make them prisoners.

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19 Oct 2018 20:50:11
There are so many other ways the transfer market reforming other than this.

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19 Oct 2018 21:27:06
What happens when a club sacks Sam Allardyce and brings in Marco Silva? You’re stuck with hoof-ball players on a 5 year contract under a manager who wants football players. Daft idea that could never work.

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{Ed025's Note - or you could end end up with 10 jordan hendersons KK....where the ball would never cross the half way line...what a nightmare!!..

19 Oct 2018 22:16:33
Think you would see a lot more 1 or 2 year deals. Also if I was a player I wouldn't want that kind restriction.

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19 Oct 2018 22:41:43
I think you would see a lot of 12 month rolling contracts which would lead to player be more transient. The club have a lot less assets but maybe it would be a good thing for football.

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20 Oct 2018 09:45:29
Appreciate the replies, I wasn't saying I'm behind this idea in any way, I just thought it was an interesting subject. I could see the loan market going through the roof if this were to happen, I also think the youth may get more of a chance if players don't settle. I personally think it's a bad idea but still thoughtful to discuss.

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20 Oct 2018 11:42:25
There is potential in it as an idea, but you would end up with loads of players on 1 year deals, particularly in the lower leagues (which most do anyway) as managers come and go like the rain in Manchester.
What you would probably also see is the money spent on transfer fees going on Agents fees and signing on fees as high profile players would command a figure to sign at new clubs/ re-sign for their current club and clubs would have to pay it.
I don’t see the likes of the big 6, Real/ Barca, Bayern etc. being happy not having the top players on long term deals, so it’s not likely to ever happen.

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19 Oct 2018 17:59:26
Xabi Alonso- 'Tackling is not a quality it is a last resort'

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19 Oct 2018 19:53:20

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19 Oct 2018 20:50:48
He will make a good manager if he wants it IMO.

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19 Oct 2018 21:22:45
Paolo Maldini - “If I have to make a tackle then I have already
made a mistake. ”.

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Southampton v Bournemouth Preview 20 October 2018

19 Oct 2018 15:28:35
{Ed's Note - figodasilva has posted a new article entitled, Southampton v Bournemouth Preview 20 October 2018

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19 Oct 2018 19:57:00
Bournemouth are flying, they could do a "Watford" I tell you, the team that worries me other than city and chelski is wolves. They will be challenging in 5 years, it could be much sooner.

I have a feeling saints will do it. A bit of a Derby, I think ings will click, you're right ed01, their defence needs sorting, sparky is not the man to do it imo, attacking manager.

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19 Oct 2018 21:02:59
If wolves have a good season all their best players will be picked off by bigger teams and they will struggle to break out of mid table medriocrity.

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19 Oct 2018 13:17:37
Now the dross of the International football is behind us ( for now) it's back to business and we need to get back to winning ways, starting 5.30pm tomorrow.

Chelsea could easily drop points against those lot along the M62 so it's a real chance to get her momentum again!

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19 Oct 2018 18:52:22
yes, chelsea game has a good chance of being a draw, we need the 3 points more than ever, with injuries and poor form from our midfield and more so our 3 forwards,
I must add that its only a matter of time that Salah and Co, kick into gear,
then some team will get a good beating .

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19 Oct 2018 20:00:39
They need to start passing to one another. Fino could have scored if salah had passed. There have been many times that mane should have passed to mo but didn't.

They need to forget about golden shoes, forget about the presure of being "the best front three in Europe" just look for red shirts.

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19 Oct 2018 22:19:09
We need the 3 points more than ever? Hahahaha how many times we going to say that this season!

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20 Oct 2018 07:48:57
To be fair, Happy to Be a Red is absolutely spot on about the 3 points today. Far too often we’ve not beaten the so called “ lesser teams”. Especially after international’s!

No one will be laughing if we don’t get the result / 3 points today.

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20 Oct 2018 10:30:28
There's no if, buts or maybes drogie mate, we're getting them 3 points today :) .

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Review Of The Day 19th October 2018

19 Oct 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 19th October 2018

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19 Oct 2018 08:14:54
The joe hart training ground? Sounds like somewhere they built just to try and make him half decent.

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{Ed001's Note - they failed then...}

19 Oct 2018 08:42:08
Cheers ed, good read. For a split second, having read firmane’s coments before the article, I thought Bielsa had given money to his old club and they had named it the Joe Hart trading ground 😂🙈. Nice touch by him though, it’s good when these guys give back, especially to an area of no doubt quite severe deprivation.

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{Ed001's Note - if more people did that then the game would be much more competitive.}

19 Oct 2018 09:33:15
Thanks very much Ed, have a good one mate.

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{Ed001's Note - you too mate.}

19 Oct 2018 09:37:06
Thanks Ed for update. Nice touch that by Bielsa, so much to like about that guy. I think Everton should buy Bolt. He fits their winger profile. Headless chicken that's quick as fk.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate. Gotta love Bielsa, mad but great.}

19 Oct 2018 10:05:30
I wonder how much David Bernstein gives to charity out of the exorbitant salaries he’s earnt over the years. That is effectively what he is asking the Premier League to do. While it would be nice for the Premier League to give money to the lower end of football, and possibly even to its long term benefit in terms of player development, it’s still a business at the end of the day.

Look at Bielsa giving back to his old club. Lovely and a very nice gesture, but how many rich people do this, in general? Just because people have an emotional connection to the product, people think they have a right to decide how it is run. The rich giving to the poor seldom happens enough in real life, why should football be any different?

Cheers Ed, have a good day.

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{Ed001's Note - it is not really charity for the Prem to improve facilities for grassroots. It is in their interests to bring kids into the game.}

19 Oct 2018 10:31:32
Thank you Ed, love the Bielsa story. Good for him. Have a great day.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

19 Oct 2018 10:32:51
I agree to a point ed, but when you can go around the world and for your talent then its not so vital to bring British kids through, especially when already making a profit. But also, my main point on that is that if the FA wasn’t so badly run then they wouldn’t have to get miffed about the Premier League hoarding all the dough. They’d be able to utilise their assets better. It’s like the government selling off our transport and utilities networks (and the rest) then complaining when the new companies do the minimum needed to complete their duties while still managing to turn a profit which then leaves the country anyway.

There are so many reasons why it would be good for them to do more, but what do people really expect? There is no obligation for it.

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{Ed001's Note - that is not a good comparison. It was the EFL that was in charge of the league before it became the greed is good Premier League. The FA never sold it off. The FA are the governing body and should be taking a %age off the Prem to give to grassroots as a matter of course.}

19 Oct 2018 11:32:05
Ok, fair enough. The last part is a good point and sort of what I mean by being badly managed by not doing their job properly and using the Premier League for a scapegoat. If they have the power to take a levy then they should do it, for sure. You just can’t expect that any business would voluntarily give money away to what is not obviously or instantaneously beneficial to them. I can’t blame the Premier League in the football greed debate. It should be the people who allow capitalism to have no limits who are at fault and rich people like Bernstein having a go at the capitalist machine is a bit contradictory, in my view.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't think the FA can force them, there is already an ongoing power struggle between clubs and UEFA, the governing bodies are sadly having to tread lightly. They should be in complete control for it to work effectively.}

19 Oct 2018 12:41:29
Cheers Ed001, love a good Bielsa story, would expect nothing else from the great man. I recently read a Benjamin Mendy quote on him about their time at Marseille together that illustrates his obsessive nature but also innate understanding of players mentality (apologies for its length) .

"He made me devour videos like never before. To begin with he put me in front of the videos and I'd fall asleep. But he was happy! I was shocked. After a while I stopped sleeping and told myself go on, I'll watch two minutes of this thing after all. After that he talked to me, I talked to him and we'd go over moves together. He told me, see, that's why I let you sleep. You slept, you slept, you slept but the day you decided to watch you got interested on your own. If I'd pushed you to watch you wouldn't have been interested. Marcelo is just too good. "


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{Ed001's Note - he is a very clever coach.}

19 Oct 2018 13:56:23
Shame. In theory, minus the lawsuits etc, would it be legal for the FA to disband the PL or at least ignore its validity in England? Not that they should, just do they actually have any power that they can wield? I just don’t understand how an organisation who can supposedly control and govern football in this country can have such little influence in real terms. Why, for example, should a newly introduced operators license linked to income of a footballing entity not be possible? Surely they have to take their own piece of the pie somehow.

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{Ed002's Note - Why would the FA wish to disband the Premier League?}

19 Oct 2018 15:07:32
I didn't imply they would. I was asking if they could. I was trying to ascertain how much power they actually have.

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{Ed002's Note - The question makes no sense and is not a measure of power the FA has.}

19 Oct 2018 17:44:04
Nice work Ed, great write up as always, pleasure to read them on my break.

I'd love to hear your views on how a Sporting Director/ Director of Football etc, could or should work modern football?

We've seen so many examples of it failing for various reasons and a few notable success stories (Sevilla under Monchi etc) .

Would be great to hear your views. Perhaps one for an article?

Cheers in advance.

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{Ed001's Note - I have added it to the to do list for you mate.}

19 Oct 2018 19:40:26
That'd make a very interesting article actually RD, good suggestion mate.

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18 Oct 2018 23:27:11
What happened to divock origi eds I thought he had potential when he came here are Everton after him is he just not good enough.

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{Ed001's Note - he just never got the run of games he needed to really develop and had a few issues on loan.}

19 Oct 2018 05:38:23
Shame about the lad, I don't know what went on in the background but I really thought he'd make it with us. Same goes for Solanke though, still very young of course but will he make it with us? I have my doubts personally. I think both players have a lot to offer but who you going to take off for one of them? that's the biggest issue imo especially when you have an in form Sturridge on the bench, the poor buggers don't stand a chance, just bad timing because of how quality the squad is at the moment.

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{Ed001's Note - the issue with Origi is his loan move did not work out, for a number of reasons. That has left him on the outside looking in.}

19 Oct 2018 05:55:09
I've seen a few reports recently, he's being linked with a few clubs what are apparently interested, do you know of any truth to this rumour mate? sounds like he's on his way out to me, which tbh sounds like the best course of action for both the club and the player.

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{Ed001's Note - we tried to sell him in the summer and he is still available. Though they are not against the right loan either.}

19 Oct 2018 06:05:02
Interesting, thanks very much Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - personally I would look to sell Solanke of the two, but there you go.}

19 Oct 2018 06:24:28
I'd agree with that because I see Origi being a good player given half the chance (which he's never going to get at Liverpool), he certainly has the potential there as does Solanke, just not for us.

I must admit though, seeing the youngsters fail at our club really does do my head in a bit because so many of them never get the chance they deserve, having said that, when you have a quality squad like ours, how can they get their chance. We have young Wilson out on loan who looks very good but would he get anywhere near our team? I highly doubt it. Fingers crossed for him, he is one I have high hopes for. Time will tell I suppose.

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{Ed001's Note - I personally think Solanke was a mistake. He is a good player but I see nothing in him to suggest he is good enough for Liverpool.}

19 Oct 2018 07:11:03
Have to feel sorry for both players there careers are just put on hold for maybe years. Think you have to be very special to be able get into forward position at the club.

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19 Oct 2018 08:18:57
Think we could use Origi as cover for the wings (I’m sure I read once that that’s his preferred position) . I still think the lad has something to offer.

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19 Oct 2018 15:11:32
I think it was you Ed001 who said something similar to this and best describes the Solanke situation. While playing with the second teams and/ or U18's or U23's, he was physically intimidating and imposing and could therefore be effective. But at the highest level, everyone is physically at a similar or superiror level and he is consequently having the adaptation problems.

Since we are on the subject of physical presence and development, Ed001, do you think Woodburn is having similar problems? Is his growth affecting his ability to play football with the same effectiveness as when he first played games for the first team as a 17 year old? Just wondering.

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{Ed001's Note - yes it was me about Solanke but I don't see the same issue with Woodburn who was always small.}

19 Oct 2018 15:58:47
Thanks Ed001 👍.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome. It is, imo, probably why Woodburn has had to develop such good technical skills and tight control. He has always been small and slight, so can be knocked about and needs the ability to keep hold of the ball while being knocked all over the place. It should help him in the future.}

19 Oct 2018 17:52:19
Sure, Ed001. We've seen examples of small scrawny kids (Messi, Zico and Zola come to mind) who developped enough technical skills to be able to overcome their physical "disadvantages".

Do you think Keita is too small for the EPL? Seen him get pushed around and off the ball, a bit.

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{Ed001's Note - no I don't. He is a similar physique to Kante, small but wiry. Even so, if you are not prepared to face the physicality present, it can take time to adjust. I think he will be fine, once he does adjust.}

19 Oct 2018 18:58:39
I thought that when we got both Kieta and Fabino, the midfield would be sorted, but I didn't factor in the adjustments the Ed has mentioned, but they will come good, both are great players .

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19 Oct 2018 19:45:59
Keita seems to be struggling to adapt a little bit but what a bloody player he is, I've seen enough of him to know he will make it here, I see him being just as good as the best (Kante) . As everybody knows, it can take a player upto even a couple of years to adapt to a new club/ league, I don't think it'll take that long for Keita, I reckon by the end of the season people will be looking at him and saying 'wow' because he is capable of greatness.

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20 Oct 2018 16:31:58
I hope Woodburn stays and gets a chance in the end and doesn’t end up like Suso who had to leave to get the proper management/ direction to thrive and come into his own elsewhere.

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