Liverpool Banter Archive March 09 2014

09 Mar 2014 23:10:03
Hi eds and reds!
Just a pretty random question regarding a player I find very interesting. Ganso. Will he ever move y´to europe, remember some rumours a couple of years back, bbut they never went anywhere. Is he good enough?

{Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly answer "Will he ever .." questions.}

09 Mar 2014 22:16:38
Hi all, seen a few posts about well beck and wanted to throw a stat out there for anyone thinking its a good idea. Sturbridge has scored 28 goals in one year for us. Welbeck has managed 27 in his 6 year career

The only people thinking Welbeck transferring to Liverpool would be a good idea are Manchester United fans

09 Mar 2014 19:29:35
Ed01 / Dagenham Gunner / YNWAdam, you seem like fair guys. So I would like to know how you rate Sterling in comparison to Walcott. If anybody else would like to answer then please be fair in your assessment. Thanx

It's hard to compare them as they are at different stages of their career IMHO.

Hi Slodge,

Good question mate.

The first thing that springs to mind is Sterling seems to have developed quicker than Walcott.

Theo joined us in 2006 and to be honest, has only really showed imense promise over the past 2 years.
Lightning pace, beats his man but very little end product, until recently.

Sterling, for me, seems to have developed a little quicker than Theo and looks more promising than what Theo was at the same age.

That said, I would not change Theo for any player (same position) in the world.

Walcott is an effective player and a good finisher, but never really too exciting to watch. He only really has pace and a good finishing ability, and can deliver a decent ball. He never looks like he has much actual ability. I see much more in Sterling. Not only does he possess Walcott's pace, he also has more skill than him. He can cross well, has great vision, is very strong and brave, works hard, and puts in good tackles. Despite not being a natural finisher, he also seems to get a few goals. That is the only aspect of his game that I feel is below average, along with perhaps his long range shooting. If you took away Walcott's pace, he would be an average player, but I don't think this is true of Sterling. I thought he was burnt out last season, but he's proved me wrong. Great player.

Sterling has better control of the ball while running, than Walcott, who prefers knocking the ball and running. Walcott is certainly a better finisher. Sterling is a tad technical than Walcott, in terms of passing and link up, while Walcott is more direct. Walcott is this outlet for Arsenal, he's released with a ball and shoosh! he's off. That is what Arsenal were missing until Ox's return from injury. But that is not what Sterling does, its more of what Sturridge does for us, IMO. Both almost HATE crossing the ball, they prefer coming on inside. Currently, I would have Sterling in my team, because he's young, learning and growing into a really good player. He's bulked up a bit, not getting bullied by stronger players and most of all, putting a smile on my face! The next 3-4 years are crucial for him and I'm pretty confident he will turn out fantastic! My thoughts and my thoughts alone!

Cheers

Forgot to add one of Sterling's pros, his defensive work rate! Just immense!

DG got it spot on. At 19 Walcott was average, Sterling is far better. I think Wenger would happily do the swap, but he'd probably offer Walcott plus £1.

Sterling is the better player in my opinion, and not for any player in the world dags?, he's a decent player but wouldn't go that far.

I think they are very simular and agree
90% with what DG said, however I believe sterling has world class potential and is playing at an international level, whereas walcott is a good international level player, and although walcott is still relatively young I think raheem will be far more developed at the same age.
peace!

Sterling looks better at 19 then Walcott did. But he could stop developing like Walcott seemed to for a while, or could be hampered by injuries, anything can happen.

But like DG, I wouldn't swap Walcott for anyone. I love him much to much, for all his imperfections, he is a future legend at Arsenal.

Z,

Maybe Ronaldo, lol

Don't fancy having Bale then Dags? ;0)

Yeah why not Phooey, lol

Sterling is more versatile having played Right wing, Left wing, Attacking midfield, Right back and second striker this season and done well where ever he has played. He is also better defensively and tactically but Walcott is better at what he does than Sterling, that is, as a winger.

I don't think anyone could argue against the fact that Walcott is faster and, in terms of his dribbling ability and finishing, probably slightly ahead of Sterling. However, despite his tender years I think Sterlings reading of the game, his tactical awareness, his all round contribution to the team, his passing and vision as well as his tracking back an tackling are better than Walcotts already. He shows an intelligence that belies his years and, despite Walcott's many years as a starter in a top team (injuries permitting) he still looks as clueless as ever when it comes to seeing a pass or making the right cross. Without a doubt at this moment in time I would have Sterling over Walcott every day of the week.

10 Mar 2014 12:44:27
I did a review on Sterling not long ago. I'm sure it's still in the blogs section somewhere under the title 'The rise and stall of Raheem Sterling'.

I really rate Raheem. He is versatile, fast, skillful and has added goals and assists to his game. For me he still needs to work on his finishing in one on one situations and his aerial deliveries. He can drill good low crosses in or cut it back for people, but his crosses in to the heads seem wayward. When one on one he seems to panic and over think his decision and ends up pea rolling it at the keeper. Whereas when he races onto a ball and has little to no time his instinctive finishing is excellent. I think he will eventually become a bit better than Walcott.

That said, Theo is an excellent player and over the last 2 seasons has consistently finished with double figures in both the goals and asssits catergories (despite long periods injured). As long as Sterling does not suffer the same injury problems Walcott has faced, I would fancy Sterling to surpass him. As Dagenham gunner says, Sterling has developed a lot quicker and I think that might be down to Rodgers man management.

YNWAdam

09 Mar 2014 18:05:28
Absolutely made up for Wigan, what a tackle by Boyce on Dzecko. Stuff of dreams lol

Wigan played well and put in a great performance, espinoza was shocking though constantly throwing himself on the deck.

09 Mar 2014 16:43:04
Where has all this Danny Welbeck talk appeared from? Surely we're ok upfront,, and why would we want him anyway? He runs about a lot with no real quality. Plus he's a born United fan and probably hates Liverpool can we stop talking about signing him when it's never going to happen (thank god) (fowler)

Add to that he's utter crap.

Much rather give Jerome Sinclair an opportunity if he keeps developing. Welbeck isn't as bad as everybody makes out (particularly by quoting his stats) but it would be a bizarre move by the club to try and sign him - makes practically no sense.

09 Mar 2014 15:03:58
What are the chances of us battling United and Chelsea for the highly rated Spanish fullback Juan Bernat? He would fill our 'problem area' at left back, but I don't see us making a move for him.

{Ed002's Note - Very slim.}

09 Mar 2014 14:46:16
Bit of banter seeing as we have no match to talk about. what's been everyone's defining moments good or bad for us this season?.

For me the very first game and that Peno save last minute was vital for us because I don't think we would have won our next 4 games 1-0 and from that you could say out season could have collapsed before it started.

Bad for me was Howard Webb v arsenal because even though we should have won the match anyway I feel if we had got that Peno and went on to get through I feel we would have certainly got to Wembley and perhaps won the cup.

As I said all just a bit of fun and food for thought eds and reds get involved!

Worst moments were the awful refereeing that cost us against city and Chelsea. Best moment? The hammering of Everton.

Im not biased hence I still think our squad is probably 4th in quality after chelsea, city and arsenal. but, and its a big but if we'd had a peno from eto on suarez, chamberling on suarez and the sterling offside we would b closer to the top and still been in the f.a cup. small margins make a big difference. mingolet save first game was massive also

{Ed002's Note - It is the same with Stoke, if they had won every game this season they would be top of the league. Will you do a calculation on how many penalties should have been given against Skrtel for pulling people back in the box?}

If we had more luck then yeah we would be higher, but like the Ed says it can go both ways. I believe we have our share of luck this year already. The table says we are currently the 2nd best team so far this year, and I am happy with that. :)

Luck evens its self out but the points I made above were stone wall for me? massive mistakes for me that I think will cost us 1st or 2nd spot. I can't remember any dicision as big as them 3 in another top of the league tir let alone 3?!?!

Digging out that win vs Fulham. For me is the good defining moment.

The worst moment for me was the salah debacle. Once again highlighting the clubs ineptitude at transfer dealings. I don't mind when we don't get a player, but the way we bid so low, kept talking about how the deal wasn't over, etc really brought the club down a peg or 2 in the respect rankings for me.

09 Mar 2014 14:02:41
Just watched the Sheffield united vs charlton match, and one of the sheffield united center backs really stood out. I think his name is Harry Maguire, he's only just turned 21. He has a lot of pace and made a few powerful runs with the ball all the way to the opposition box. He seems like a perfect CB for us.

09 Mar 2014 11:52:51
Going to be a long week. Anyone want to stick an early prediction in for the United game? Oh and think with your head and not your heart.
Going for a score draw myself 1-1
Although it could go either way, I honestly think we could win or lose this one 4-0 depending on what team keeps a cool head.

Head says a 1-0 scrappy win for either of the two sides probably through an early goal
heart says 5-0 to us

I think it will be a 3-1 victory to Liverpool. If we win this game, I think we have a very good chance of winning the league!

There's some massive contradictions in there lad.

Are you saying that it will be difficult to split the teams, yet potentially one team (either side) will be shabite and the other one excellent??

Makes you think.

0 4 lads, you will have way to much for this united side.
We are probably the only team in the country, possibly Europe not score past them this season.

Can't see us not winning the game. if we press high against Jones and smalling, Jones especially on the basis of yesterday, I think we will get some real joy and a good few goals

Cheers gunner62, hope that happens as well!

Traditionally form goes out of the window for this one. Probably come down to who wants it more/luck/refereeing decisions on the day. I'll guess 2-1 To us. Sturridge brace

Saying it could go either way and even be rediculous davey. I'm guessing 1-1. It's a bit like the arsenal and spurs games, u can try and guess but the nature of the occasion can mean it can all go a bit mental.

0-2 we are a better team
simples!

No redcards, we win 4-1 me thinks. I have a terrible feeling Webb will take center stage as usual though.

I think ref is clattenburg, can't decide wether this is a good or bad thing, at least it's not web, I also have a horrible feeling united will really raise their game and beat us 2-1.really hope I'm wrong

09 Mar 2014 09:01:57
Do we have a game on tuesday against sunderland, some sites say yes some no

{Ed002's Note - The Sunderland game is on the 267th.}

Sunderland is the 26th March subject to them drawing today and having a replay.

{Ed002's Note - Else the 267th.}

09 Mar 2014 10:15:12
Ed02 is right. The Sunderland match is on the 267th anniversary of the birth of Mary Arms Harvey. (i.e. March 26th 2014)

09 Mar 2014 14:26:38
Jesus Ken! Are you that bloke who sits at the back of the room at a pub quiz and knows the answer to the most trivial questions the landlord can google?

Or are you the landlord and use google yourself ;)

YNWAdam

By my reckoning the match will be played on the 23rd December. Ihave already applied for my match tickets - it's the only way that I'll ever get any!

09 Mar 2014 04:51:00
hello eds,
missed the man u game and heard they played ok.
if you watched the game do you think they have improved at all or turned a corner as they say? should we be concerned at all for next week?

{Ed002's Note - No idea, sorry. Try the MU page.}

They played better yesterday.
Looked even better when RVP was subbed and played without nerves when the 2nd went in.
There trouble is inconsistency.
I am not saying its going to be an easy match for us next week.
But for once we will be travelling to OT and we should have no fear.
Our away form can be hit and miss but if the team turn up on the day and BR gets his tactics right we should certainly give them a game and we should get something there.
For once we go there in fine form, on the back of a week and a half's rest and am really looking forward to us giving them a game.
It will be tight but 3 points are there for the taking.
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

You can bet it's going to be a mental one, both sides will be pumped up for this one. Nobody at United will want to lose this one in front of the home fans.

To be fair, west brom whilst having a fair bit of possession did hardly anything with the ball. and they were also sloppy. no one was marking Rooney for his goal, van Persie should also have been sent off, west brom giving the ball away cheaply.

I think RVP will play and be sent off against us