Liverpool Banter Archive January 09 2017
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09 Jan 2017 22:22:36
SO who do we all want playing against saints? mixture of the youth who underwhelmed against Plymouth or all out for the win?
Can anyone shed any light as to why Harry Wilson played no part in the FA Cup, from what I've read on here his form has been very good!
Personally like to see Karius and TAA hold there places and with studge starting if he's fit
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09 Jan 2017 23:27:06
I would like this 11 . Karius TAA Matip Gomez Moreno can gini Lallana firmino number 10 Origi Sturridge sts . But I can see Klopp doing this .
Karius clyne lovren klavan Milner can gini Lallana firmino left win Origi st Sturridge rww
09 Jan 2017 23:37:14
I like your first choice too but don't see Klopp changing our formation, don't see Matip starting either tbh although would be nice.
I'd say Karius TAA Gomez Klavan Moreno Stewart Can Gini Lallana Studge origi.
Wouldn't complain to seeing Ojo or Wilson involved in the front 3 and Lallana drop deeper
09 Jan 2017 23:44:17
TBH believe near enough the XI Klopp hopes to start against united play, the only exception would be put coutinho on bench against saints with the hope to start against united. Have had a week off so can manage two game and saints should get them match sharp.
Only difference is would pack the bench against saints wth youth and give the youth another shot against Plymouth
10 Jan 2017 00:05:00
I'd go close to first team and use the game to get Matip/ Coutinho/ Hendo a run to ease them back in (either starting or as sub depending on fitness)
The rest have had time to recover and can afford to play with Utd only on Sunday
Karius
Clyne - Matip - Lovren - Milner
Gini - Stewart - Llalana
Firmino - Origi - Coutinho
Bring on Hendo for last 30mins and take off Coutinho early for Woodburn to protect him for Man Utd
10 Jan 2017 00:09:49
Strongest possible 11. Massive game
10 Jan 2017 02:33:03
I'd still have a mixture to be honest - we used youth heavily to get to that stage of the cup and I don't think, on the back of one underwhelming performance, they should all be thrown on the scrapheap. Maybe have a few more experienced players next to them - and perhaps introduce a few more youth players from the bench, as opposed to starting them - but I'd like to see some youth in the team. I suspect that Klopp will probably field a strong team after the Plymouth result.
10 Jan 2017 04:49:19
Im ready to be shot down but i wouldn't be too unhappy if we put out the same team of youngsters again (at least for the first half) . They will have learned from that game and it offers them the opportunity to show improvement, better workrate, less nerves, etc. I think, given a second bite at the cherry, the kids could overcome Plymouth.
10 Jan 2017 07:11:54
Agree with Roland, Abo and zimbo.
The "first" team have had 10 days off, this is a good game to knock off a bit of rustiness before the weekend.
Secondly, if we win or lose 3-0 then the second leg is affected, so we have to go all out for a win. Play like we did on Sunday against Saints first team and the second leg could be over.
Thirdly, it'd be nice to get Klopp's first trophy under his belt.
10 Jan 2017 07:20:33
I probably should have read the original post. Better. I was referring to the replays vs Plymouth not the Southampton game.
10 Jan 2017 08:08:15
I thought it was unfair on all them young lads been thrown in together against a team who's players were treating it a the biggest game of their career.
But I guessed they learnt a lot about being in a team that is expected to win every game.
09 Jan 2017 20:23:41
Think Spurs missed a trick not giving Harry Winks the number 40 shirt :-)
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09 Jan 2017 21:32:59
Lol I love it.
09 Jan 2017 22:28:43
Literally LOL!
09 Jan 2017 23:05:10
Brilliant redstorm
09 Jan 2017 23:26:41
Borrowed that from us mate lol lol we've been on about it for ages, some already have the name and number on their shirts lol
10 Jan 2017 08:58:35
Dont get it?
10 Jan 2017 09:19:39
The Crowd would keep shouting at him to wake up.
10 Jan 2017 09:54:27
40 winks blair, now do you get it?
10 Jan 2017 12:05:37
Here's a hint Blair it's to do with his eye lids 😉x40
09 Jan 2017 19:32:41
Is it tonight Liverpool play Leicester in u23s if so is there any team news and any updates
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09 Jan 2017 20:51:17
Who is playing that? The entire U23 team just played two days ago!
09 Jan 2017 21:41:17
Not tonight, the game was rearranged to April
09 Jan 2017 19:02:43
whats the betting odds we batter Man u, then get beat by Swansea
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10 Jan 2017 09:06:15
Longer than the odds of us battering both I would say
09 Jan 2017 15:48:26
A question for Ed01 if he fancies it. I've been having a think about two of our better prospects from recent years who are no longer at the club, Suso and Sterling. I was surprised to see that they're having remarkably similar seasons in terms of goals and assists and I was wondering if you have an opinion over which is the better player? Going on little more than the highlight reel and my limited memories Sterling's game seems based on his pace, tenacity and close control whilst Suso seems more cultured with more flow to his dribbling and a better range of passing. Do you think either would get into our first 11 or do you think we've grown beyond them? (let's ignore Sterling's attitude problem if we can)
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{Ed001's Note - Sterling was faster but Suso was much better in every area of the game. He was so much more technically adept than Sterling, loved to get stuck in and had a beautiful first touch at times. Suso needed to go to get the chances, as he was short and not lightning quick in a country that still favours physicality over technicality. He would certainly make a great option to play in midfield or one of the forward positions, especially during the absence of Lallana and Coutinho. However I do not think he would have commanded a first choice place yet.}
09 Jan 2017 18:35:55
I rekpn suso had it all but that his body needed to catch up with his technique. He also didn't have the engine to play centrally for us serie A is a really good fit for him
09 Jan 2017 20:54:45
I think Sterling. Sterlings game has changed a lot since the hype surrounding him and as he sought to find something to differentiate him from the other forwards at City in a positive light, which has ultimately left him as a Walcott mK2 - all pace and little else. From what I saw of them when they were first getting regular games (Sterling first full season with us and Suso at Almeria - which granted was a lot less than I saw Sterling) I think Sterling had the potential to go further.
However I think the reason Ibe hasn't gone further already is all in his head
09 Jan 2017 21:30:47
Any chance of getting him back in the summer?
{Ed001's Note - which one? Though the word no would apply anyway.}
09 Jan 2017 16:58:35
I've just noticed something really annoying about this season. We're doing great, we're on course for north of 80 points which is title challenging form but there's a worst case scenario that has us in fifth and just two points ahead of sixth by Sunday night. Why is this annoying (beyond the fact that we could be out of the top 4)? Because 5th and 6th are doing much, much better than the trend of the last decade.
After 20 games the average points of the 5th placed team over the previous decade was 35.3, Arsenal are on 41. Utd in 6th have 39 compared to the average of 33.2. In any normal year top 4 would be practically assured and we'd be focusing purely on the title, this year, not so much. Bloody 2016 ☹
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{Ed025's Note - that reminds me..i must go out and buy myself a new anorak... cheers putney.. :)
09 Jan 2017 17:24:27
Ha ha eds, that's a good one for an evertonian 😂. I do see where you're coming from though Putney, the only good thing is it is in our own hands, you can ask for nothing more than that I suppose.
09 Jan 2017 18:24:53
But a win on Sunday would make that picture look a whole lot better!
09 Jan 2017 20:14:44
I feel your pain Putney. But look at it this way, the teams we are ahead at the beginning of the season, looked far better than us, spent more mony than us overall and we were not even supposed to get a sniff at even 5th based on these factors, by the media and even a subset of our own fans.
Hence the fact that we are where we are now whith pretty much half of the squad BR left Klopp (whom many thought were crap and needed to be booted out of the club) along with strategic signings like Matip and Mane as well as coaching successes in Milner, Lallana, Origi and Hendo, should be a great sign of how far Klopp has led us to get to where we are. Sure, things could be a lot better but any of the top 6 can say that as well.
Bottom line is that we are 2nd with the best attack in the PL and with a better defence compared to the one under BR, and a position where very few people (myself included) expected us to be in so we should enjoy it and roll up our sleeves for the 2nd half of the season cos it`s going to get feisty till the very end. Up The Pool!
09 Jan 2017 17:47:55
Ed, numbers are my thing, they make the world make sense :)
{Ed025's Note - and there is nothing wrong with that putney, myself its ale, birds, gambling and ciggies...so if your ever having a party mate...im busy.. :)
09 Jan 2017 20:55:51
Really Ed025? I know some numbers based drinking games you'll love!
{Ed025's Note - now thats my kind of mathematics hjikle..
09 Jan 2017 22:41:14
Hamilton red, what a lad of rubbish, that you weren't even supposed to be top 5. You have spent hundreds of millions over the last decade in the premier league, and you have a supposed world class manager, who had 9 months last season to bed in. This year you had the advantage of a manager who had a season to adjust, and no midweek European football in comparison to the rest of us. When will you ever actually have expectation for your team rather than hiding behind the whole "we don't spend as much, we shouldn't be top 4 " bollocks.
09 Jan 2017 23:14:41
It's not all about the transfer fees. We don't spend anywhere near on wages neither, I do agree with you that we are good enough now to expect to challenge for top 4 spot. And a long shot for the title.
It's not all about spending money, just look at Utd, most expensive squad in premier league history and still struggling.
09 Jan 2017 22:33:51
Numbers and gambling are a useful combination ed, care for some Texas Hold'em?
{Ed025's Note - i might be a bit too good for you at that putney, the casino is my second home mate..
10 Jan 2017 01:04:41
Manc-Stand, NONE of what you posted about my comments, is true. The points I made were regarding this season, not in general. You seem to have been itching to have a dig but you made a dig at points I never made. I could take the pains to explain my post BUT what`s the point. You clearly did not read nor/ or understand it so not sure what good explaining it would do. Feel free to read it again and let me know what you got out of it. i`m sure you can handle that.
10 Jan 2017 02:28:41
@Stand-United - because Mourinho is unfamiliar with the British game? Come on lad that's as bad an excuse as the one Hamilton was reeling off. I agree top 4 was the minimum we were expecting this season after more spending and getting a top manager but don't use the European football and new manager you have as being an advantage for us - Mourinho has a ton of experience in both the PL and with midweek games, it is nothing new to either him or United.
On top of this you's have spent enormously the past few seasons - if you haven't got the squad to cope with such demands then it is a failure on your clubs behalf - any other club, with the resources that have been showered on you, wouldn't be so brazen as to insist other clubs have an "advantage" - that is delusional.
10 Jan 2017 10:05:58
Hamilton
On a lighter note after reading your comment, At what point and how much money would it take us to win the league according to you? My take is £700 mill.
10 Jan 2017 23:10:32
Point is, all we constantly hear is that Liverpool don't spend as much so can't be expected to get top 4. That's garbage. What we have spent is our failure, nobody is denying that. But when you all bleat that you don't spend money when in fact your spent hundreds of millions over he years yourself, and yet constantly deny you should expect MINIMUM top 4 it's laughable.
And yes. Jose knows the EPL. But he didn't know his squad, know his players, the personalities etc. Klopp has 9 months to get used to his. And don't try telling me playing Thursday nights in the Ukraine don't hinder your league form