Liverpool Banter Archive August 09 2013

09 Aug 2013 22:45:07
Hi folks, just registered. Have been following the site for over a year and have to say it is brilliant. Am over the moon Agger has been given the vice captaincy, well deserved. Would also like to thank the Eds for all the hard work they put in to make this site what it is. Great work. On a final note I haven't been this optimistic about a season since 2005/06, am really pleased with the signings and the way Mr. Rodgers has us playing. As another poster said previously "Rome wasn't built in a day". I believe the foundations are being laid for a period of sustained success in the forthcoming years and I'm first in the queue for a ticket for the roller coatser. {Ed002's Note - Welcome.}

09 Aug 2013 22:46:23
at the mometn I am tied, because i'm optimistic about the team but I also recognise that we need two players. a defensive player and most importantly a winger or attacking midfielder. I can see aspas as a good bench player but I can't see us getting top four without another attacking minded player. what are your opinions

I try not to read too much into squad numbers, but would they really give the number 9 to 'a good squad player'? I would be surprised if Aspas wasn't a key player this season and starting many games.

09 Aug 2013 23:46:16
I couldn't agree more to be honest mate.

Jam2275

RDL, I believe the players get to choose there numbers, I remember Suarez sayin he didn't know our number 7 was so significant, he jus seen it was available and took it and Joe Allen was asked what number he wanted on that Being Liverpool program.

RDL, Brad Jones is No 1. Whatever is available at the time I imagine it would be very very rare that a club would say no you can't have that number (for 1st team squad signings of course).

RDL I think you may be right there fella, a cheeky £10 bet on Aspas being top goal scorer in the prem next season?. from what I've seen he has everything, Suarez who?

09 Aug 2013 22:07:02
Hey lfc fans

I have a question for the eds. or anyone else.

So last year we had no forward line bar sureaz. because we let caroll go with no replacement, and we didn't get any one else either. So we were short for half a season upfront. And we were short in other areas. it was a bit of a mess.

This summer. Why is brendan selling first instead of guaranteeing players coming in. it seems like the club didn'tlearn from last season.

If downing an skrtel go. it leaves us in trouble. 2 wingers. Not enough forwards. short if kolo or agger get injured.

I thought a bigger squad was the key eds? I'm worried and really confused because we have less players than last season

Red lobster

Downing, Suarez, Coutinho, Aspas, Sturridge, Borini, Assaidi, Sterling, Ibe, Sinclair, Morgan, Yesil, Pacheco.

13 players for 3 positions. Yes, some are youngsters and will probably not feature much, yes some will probably leave, but there is still plenty of time.

Downing, Suarez, assaidi, Morgan, Pacheco gone or going! Great knowledge fel

We are definitely a bit lightweight as it stands.

Don't doubt the club is working like a Trojan to make appropriate signings.

Maybe the reality is somewhere in between.

At the start of last season we didn't have Sturridge, Coutinho, Aspas, Alberto & Ibe. I make that 5 more attacking players available to us.

09 Aug 2013 21:52:42
Another defeat for man u, I think moyes doing well!

Even no it's just pre season a few of my m8 s are Man U fans even they are un sure, and think they should have gone for big name manager I know that don't mean much but questions from fans already
Ynwa

It will take some time before the Man U players get used to Moye's "Hoof and run" technique. So, they will be fine.

I always though it would be a tad embarrassing to lose at your own testimonial. Realize it doesn't really matter, but still.

I don`t know if Moyes will struggle BUT It ain`t looking too good.

10 Aug 2013 09:03:00
i would say its looking very good.lol

As funny as it would be to see them fall from grace, we should not be tempted to behave like they did to us by becoming obsessed.
Stick to supporting LFC and watch their decline with a respectful silence.

09 Aug 2013 21:46:10
Reminding me of last years summer window plenty of rumours but players seemingly turning us down to go elsewhere such as Mkhitaryan or Costa signing his extension. Happy with the 4 we have signed but we are still well short in numbers especially out wide, and as thing stand the squad does not look as good as the others challenging for top 4

I don't understand all the comments about lacking depth - IMO the 22 man squad going to Dublin is decent - add Skrtel/Agger and Suarez -good squad with an attacking intent.
With Downing, Assaidi, Ibe, Sterling - we have width - I would love one more quality attacker and I think we would be set for the season, but if we didn't I would still be happy - bring it on!

09 Aug 2013 20:54:45
Anybody reckon now Downing etc going/gone is Tom Once an option?

Just asking.

Sorry Tom Ince

I hope the header from Huth is an own goal, otherwise it means he is playing for us. I know it looks like we might be getting a bit desperate for a CB with a bit of experience, I didn't think things had got that bad

09 Aug 2013 21:54:51
Kelly is ready to step up for cb in my opinion

I'm still told that Tom Ince is not being considered. As I've said before jan seems like the time it was going to happen, since then the club have moved on, highlighted by our recent signings and linked players plus the emergence of Sterling and in particular Ibe.

Didn't he go extremely quiet in the 2nd half of the season so would consistency not be an issue? Then you consider quality of stepping up to PL. Then you look at Sterling and Ibe and go is he even better than them so why bother?

I think we are still interested in Ince. Sterling & Ibe are great prospects but have nowhere near Inces goal threat and are 2 yrs or more behind him in terms of playing with the men rather than the boys. I could see the Downing money being used to capture Tom.

09 Aug 2013 20:33:29
Well Fellow Reds

Today is a good day to be a Liverpool fan

1. Big John has to be applauded, many of the Liverpool faithful has given J Henry a hard time since taking the club over, however I believe that the way he has backed the manager and orchestrated the latter scenario of the Suarez affair has been top draw. We have been asking for a strong owner for a long time and finally Big John has come up trumps.
2. Dagger has been given the vice captancy, great choice by the manager, only Lucus should have come close. With Barcelona mouching around, a great decision to try and keep the man. I was more worried about Agger going than Suarez. Great move.
3. Jay has gone - I don't mean I am glad he is gone, I am glad he has got his move to a club that I think he will progress and flourish as a player. Jay has been as commited as anyone at the club and I wish him the best. If only Suarez had his commitment then he wouldd be worth 100 mil.
4. It looks as if Cissokho has signed, if so he could be a really good addition.
5, Sturridge is bach for Saturday, can't wait to see him play.

All looking good fellow Reds, if Suarez goes, he will go abroad (no problem with that), and we have money to buy our target, so all is good, have faith in Big John, slowly but surely we will rise to the top

Agree with almost everything, except I'm sure EVERYDAY is a good day to be a Liverpool fan.

09 Aug 2013 20:19:58
Rodgers echoing the owners dis evening says saurez is not going anywhere and expects him to accept it and give 100% when he pulls on that red shirt again.

Boom!

09 Aug 2013 19:55:57
Hi to all reds in the US. what's the best tv package to get over here to see the pl.
Just recently moved over here and have no idea!
Thanks in advance.

I found this on the net,

"All 380 games of the 2013-14 Barclays Premier League season will be presented live on NBC Sports Group’s television and digital properties as well as other NBCUniversal channels. NBC Sports Group’s schedule, which begins on Saturday, August 17, includes live matches on NBC, NBC Sports Network, Telemundo, Mun2, the Premier League Extra Time package of overflow television channels, the NBC Sports Live Extra website and app, and other NBCUniversal channels including CNBC and USA"

abbs

You will be wanting to get Comcast Xfinity Preffered, gives you Fox Soccer, Fox Sports, ESPN and NBC Sports who will be showing every single premier league game live, until 2017 :D

NBC so bought to rights, so its going to be on regular cable I think. They have made a lot of noise about showing a record amount of live games. All games will be streamed live on their website, you just need your cable login to access. There will be no extra cost. It sounds awesome.

MiamiRed, where can you buy the Comcast Xfinity from as i'm from England and want to be able to watch all Premiership games especially Liverpool FC if possible? {Ed002's Note - It won't work in England.}

It's completely insane that you can watch every premier league match in any country apart from here.

09 Aug 2013 23:40:17
@DBol That's because here in Britain we get ripped off for everything. Like it's cheaper to drive to France for you alcohol and tobacco than it is to go to the Spar

"The transfer fee, which could rise to £6m based his on appearances for west ham, West Ham and Downing are at an advanced stage over terms, with one of the stumbling blocks being the player's wages of around £80,000 a week. But Liverpool are prepared to pay up some of his remaining contract to facilitate the deal, and it could be finalised as early as next week"

10 Aug 2013 16:29:34
Thanks Ed02 for the reply shame it won't work as Sky, Virgin & BT Sport are rip offs and Streaming is a pain in the bottom {Ed002's Note - Where do you think the English clubs get their massive income from?}

09 Aug 2013 19:23:42
Got to congratulate Shakthar getting Bernard, fantastic signing for them. Can't see him staying for too many years but whilst he is there it's a great move.

Anfield Andy

10 Aug 2013 08:37:47
so that's what were doing well done shaktar great news that hope your happy for them, we need something r end eds just put a bs rumour around were getting reus r somebody of top quality just to liven this site up a bit if nothing else. {Ed002's Note - There had been no Liverpool interest in Bernard since before Rodgers arrived.}

09 Aug 2013 19:07:37
Hi ed's, with reference to my post from last week. it seems west hams interest did still remain as he looks likely to be signing for them!
Have a good weekend
Cheers

06 Aug 2013 09:13:23
Hi ed's
Mentioned a few times previously that Sunderland and Newcastle were both tracking Downing. This is still the case as is also being reported in the press (certainly the newcastle part anyway).also told a while back about West Ham holding an interest but I have no idea if this remains the case.

Spearing as I keep saying is looking Bolton or Blackburn bound with Blackpool and Wigan seemingly less likely. However should McCarthy move in the near future then don't rule Wigan out.

I've also had Sunderland mentioned as a possible loan destination for Coates but even I don't believe the guy who told me this as it doesn't make sense. He's been right before but I doubt him on this occasion if I'm honest! Then again, no harm in posting it and if he's right ill take it all back!

Have a good day
Cheers

09 Aug 2013 18:40:53
Hello Eds and fellow kopites,
Now sky saying Downing is close to Joining West Ham and we know Assaidi will also be leaving. So that leaves us with Sturridge, Aspas, Borini, Sterling and Ibe as attacking options so would it be fair to say atleast 2 attackers will be coming in?
My choices Diego Costa and Muriel but my gut feeling Costa and Atsu.
What do you reckon?
Also I haven't included Suarez and Alberto as I still believe we will sell Suarez for anything above 40M but just not to Arsenal and so far I reckon BR sees Luis Alberto in midfield.

09 Aug 2013 18:35:05
Really happy with Danny Agger being named as the new vice-captain.

Also really pleased that Brendan mentioned Jordan Henderson as a great leader, hopefully he'll really kick on this season. The boy has so much more potential and would love to see him with the captains armnband for both LFC and England.

09 Aug 2013 18:23:40
Well done to Agger on getting his new title. very well deserved. And good luck to young Jay Spearing

09 Aug 2013 17:39:33
Has Downing signed for West Ham on a 4yr deal, Eds? {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

09 Aug 2013 17:55:21
Got to say I'm really pleased we have Mignolet in goal. He is a brilliant shot stopper and I think that's an area in which Reina has started to struggle. Good with feet, and seems pretty intelligent.

Really enjoyed watching Aspas so far as well. He looks like he gets in the right areas to score and make chances and hardly stops running - could turn out to be an absolute bargain!

Much to look forward to next weekend.

09 Aug 2013 17:40:59
Kobi {Ed002's Note - It is not a matter for discussion. Sorry.}

09 Aug 2013 17:36:40
Has LS actually been told to train alone officially by LFC, or it more of a case that he is training alone due the injury, missing the game in Norway so no first team squad to train with?

So is it official or papers putting 2 and 2 together and getting 10? {Ed002's Note - The coaching staff would have told him.}

09 Aug 2013 17:11:15
Danny Agger, part of a dying breed. Fully deserves his new title and I'm sure a lot of us will be proud to know he's our VC!

JFT 96

JP

A Legend in the making

09 Aug 2013 17:07:28
Congratulations to Daniel Agger on getting the vice captains job,
great choice.

09 Aug 2013 17:05:51
Congrats to our new VC, a one D.Agger esquire!

Any more bids, Barca? ;)

09 Aug 2013 17:03:24
Daniel Agger apointed LFC vice Captain . I think this should be well received by all, well done Dagger .

09 Aug 2013 17:00:05
Hearing Stewart Downing is to have a medical at West Ham.

Please hope you are not kidding. Don't mess around with stuff like this.

Have to say I'm not totally convinced by the information given to me as he's on the plane to Dublin at the moment but there may be something in it over the next couple of days.

I'll offer to drive him there. Would want to make sure he turned up.

I can confirm this is true j w henry sent a you tube link to the West Ham United board showing what downing can do with a football and a waste bin after seeing that they had to bid its in there hands now

09 Aug 2013 16:49:22
What do supporters (or the Eds) think will happen if the transfer window closes, Suarez is not sold and he refuses to apologise? Will he be forced to make a public apology? {Ed002's Note - A public apology? To the nation or the whole of Europe?}

He will probably promise to do it, then back out at the last second. (handshake)

I take your point. What I mean to his teammates and the supporters for "disrespecting the club". Is that not what Rodgers said he must do to get back training with the squad?

If Suarez stays we should let him sit in the stands for the whole season

Re: Suarez, maybe a public flogging in the Anfield car park!

09 Aug 2013 16:39:42
Mascherano liked with move back.

Seems odd as 29yrs old, I suspect high earner and didn't leave clean like Alonso, Spearing etc

Is this just lazy press, is it planting seeds of thoughts towards an offer in the Agger chase? {Ed002's Note - No idea. Sorry.}

Would love it to be true, Masch Lucas and Gerrard as the midfield 3, back up centre back also.

09 Aug 2013 16:21:15
Will DS be playing tomorrow? At anytime in the game? :D?

He will come on in the 73rd minute to get 20mins including injury time.

09 Aug 2013 15:51:23
Hi Eds & Reds,

Just for a bit of a change from the usual who said what to whom about our favourite Uruguyan, I'd be interested to get people's insights into the hottest youth prospects in the game at the moment.

We have a few here, names I've come across (given I don't get to see many of the youth games) include Rossiter, Sama, Sergio Canos to name a few. Would be great to hear abouth others including their potential strengths & weaknesses.

Also, given the Eds insights into other teams and rumours, what non-Liverpool young talents are likely to be commanding the £50m+ fees in the next few years.?

Just a bit of Friday afternoon banter!

Z {Ed002's Note - Seems like a blast. Yassine Benzia.}

Mind the spelling but Texiera looks a bit special for us.

Stephen sama looks classy any time I have seen him for the reserves

Thanks Ed, the wit does not go un-noticed! Looks a great prospect - scored 2 in the U19 Euros recently too.

Texiera looks a bit tasty too!

Without a question Adel Taarabt. I reckon when he comes of age he will be the first 150 million pound player the way the market is going. Check him out on youtube. He is unbelievable. They are calling him the Moroccan Messi.

Will Hughes looks like a great prospect.

I'd agree with benzia I'd also say tonny vilhena and anass achahbar of feyenoord then more obviously raphael varane of Madrid looks incredible

I'd also throw in adryan, julian draxler, adam maher and mbaye niang. I can see all of these having 30 million plus transfers in their careers

Bit of a random name, but I like the look of Alen Halilović from Dinamo Zagreb.

Seriously loopervil, I hope you're having a laugh.

I think Will Hughes could be a big player for England if he can keep his head down - but admittedly I've only seen him on youtube. I've seen Jonathan Williams play for Palace and Wales a few times and I think he could have a bit of a breakthrough year this year, he's a very useful young player, great ball control for someone so young. In the Liverpool team I've been consistently impressed by Teixeira (and I think Ibe and Sterling could be our starting wingers for many many years if they keep progressing as they are).

Inside LFC; Coutinho, Raheem Sterling, Jordan Ibe, Suso, Andre Wisdom, Luis Alberto, Joao Carlos Teixeira, Ryan McLaughlin, Brad Smith, Jack Dunn, Jerome Sinclair, Samed Yesil, Seyi Ojo, Jordan Rossiter, Sergi Canos, Pedro Chirivella, Cameron Brannagan, Alex O'Hanlon, Nacho Ortiz, Kristof Polgar, and Yalany Baio.

Outside of LFC; Viktor Fischer, Romelu Lukaku, Julian Draxler, Raphael Varane, Luke Shaw, Marquinhos, Gerard Deulofeu, M'Baye Niang, Victor Andrade, Adam Maher, Will Hughes, Jetro Willems, Lucas Digne, Jurgen Locadia, Leandro Paredes, Kurt Zouma, Douglas Baggio, and Max Meyer.

Oliver torres at athletico madrid for me :)

If you go by youtube, then Assaidi would be even better as he's known as the Moroccan Ronaldo. He's the reason that Taarabt doesn't get a place in the National Team (Even the Moroccan manager agrees)

I liked what I saw of nicolas lopez sukuta pasu Paolo Henrique there is probably loads more but only ones I could remember names of

09 Aug 2013 10:30:08
Hi eds and fellow reds. Great job btw love the site. Ok I have a couple of questions 1. I heard a while ago on tv that we was odds on favorite with bookies to sign defoe personally I rate him highly I know his age is a problem but for a smallish fee do you know of anything maybe? 2. This anfield capacity increase do you know when it will begin thanks. Have a great day eds and reds! Danny {Ed002's Note - (1) I would be astonished if Defoe is odds on to join Liverpool - my advice is to keep your money in your pocket. (2) It'll maybe be complete in 3 years.}

Defoe, that`s a joke, right?

09 Aug 2013 14:55:39
Hi eds. new comer to the site but follower for a long time. just wanna say great work.
aplologies on the suarez ques, i'm sure your sick of it.
one final one if I may.

was wondering with henry saying that they have no time to get a replacement for suarez now, do you think that the bid for diago costa of a. madrid was seen as that replacement and if they got costa, then suarez would be allowed to go?

thanks {Ed002's Note - This really has been done to death. Everybody is over analysing everything that is being said.}

BR did say after signing of Aspas etc that he was still looking for a CB and an atting player.if I remember right it was before the Mkhitaryan bid and the LS fiasco

09 Aug 2013 14:19:52
there was someone on yesterday that was looking for somewhere to go before the match in dublin tomorrow, just to let people know, a majority of supporters clubs are meeting in the lansdowne hotel, ballsbridge(quite near the ground). all are welcome and should be a good bit of banter. {Ed002's Note - Awash with a sea of red no doubt.}

There will be quite a few green and white hoops there too!

09 Aug 2013 14:11:06
lfc making headlines again, what with JH telling everyone who would listen that he has had private and confedential conversations with arsenal and now rumours that stirling is in trouble again, it beggars belief that BR insinuated that arsenal fc don't have class, is there some sort of north west (Liverpool) joke going around that the rest of us just don't get? or are the lfc management smoking somthing they shouldn't be.its just crazy

09 Aug 2013 13:48:05
Thank you Jay Spearing for your service to the club. if only players like Suarez had his attitude.
YNWA Spearo YNWA

Here here, i'm from the same town as j, and I know! he is a massive lfc fan.good luck with the rest of your carrier lad YNWA

09 Aug 2013 13:40:12
Best of luck to Spearing. A decent team I a very competitive and battling league. Bolton have to be a decent shout for promotion and Spearing will be at the centre of a push for that goal, along with another former Red David Ngog.

Got to be worried about Sterling, second season in a row that he's had legal issues.

Anfield Andy

09 Aug 2013 13:13:12
Eds, what happened to the Dennis Praet rumors? Are we still interested? Will we bid? {Ed002's Note - There is nothing happening right now.}

09 Aug 2013 13:03:01
Its great to see LFC being firm with the Suarez situation but does it all have to be in the public eye? We seem to be the centre of attention time after time. Surely John Henry's conversation with Ivan Gazidis could have stayed private for example?

And what's wrong being in the public eye, or do you think if we wash our laundry privately media or fans from other clubs will respect us. I don't think so. what ever JH did its a media stunt never take everything serious you hear in media or from a person. don't let the negativity creep in our mind. the Eds have done a great job by making us register

09 Aug 2013 12:37:06
{Ed002's Note - We are not going to discuss such matters.}

09 Aug 2013 12:33:33
Can anyone else believe what Spurs are asking for Bale? 120 million euros plus a player? WTF and I thought we were asking a lot for Suarez, no way is Bale worth that.

09 Aug 2013 13:13:44
That wotn come. don't worry. Bale will push for a transfer. and Like everytime. LEVY will shut Bale2s A**.
But Levy would get a decent price for him. He should be a role model for some Owners.

09 Aug 2013 12:15:54
Hi Eds and fellow Reds,
I'd simply like to say thank you to little Jay Spearing for his quiet and constant professionalism whilst at Liverpool. Now he has gone to Bolton I hope he has a fantastic career there. Good luck Jay and no red ever walks alone when they have treated the badge with respect. Thank you.

I second that. Can't fault his effort and I really hope he does well.

If certain players showed his heart, humility and commitment, they`d still be here.

09 Aug 2013 11:58:30
{Ed002's Note - Welcome but we are not going to discuss such subjects. Sorry.}

09 Aug 2013 12:09:53
How much did Jay go to Bolton for?

Hear Cissoko in before end of the window, why not sooner Surely this is not the only one coming in?

Where is the £25M we bid on HM going? Is Costa still a target or someone else?

09 Aug 2013 13:11:23
Jay gone for 1, 5 mill.
Sisshoko is coming at the same fees But as a loan payment.
HM. is stil mystry. I just can't add up that equation, we ever had a 21 mill bod for him?
Costa won't join us. If suarez is leaving for No CL, then why does any other decent player comes in from a CL side?

09 Aug 2013 11:55:57
Reports suggest that Arsenal are about to give up on Suarez and turn their attention to Benzema. If Arsenal were to bid for him, do you suppose it would prompt Madrid to finally submit a bid for Suarez as a replacement? {Ed002's Note - Madrid will bid for Suarez if they want to - it is nothing to do with Arsenal or Benzema. The issue is that the manager is concerned about Suarez and has another player in mind. But, the manager does not have too much of a say in the matter.}

Thanks for the reply Ed. Much appreciated.

Ed, who is the other Striker that Real are looking at or do we not know? {Ed002's Note - They have an interest in Aguero.}

Aguero - interesting. Are they likely to make a bid for him.

Wonder how its will sit with him as well been a ex Atletico Madrid player. they get a bit touchy about that in Madrid. {Ed002's Note - There is other interest in him as well. Try the Real Madrid page.}

Well Aguero to Real and Suarez to City!

Worth a pound punt me thinks!

09 Aug 2013 11:44:47
Hi eds, 1st time poster here and love the site.
Putting aside all the rumours of players coming into LFC, what's happening with the out-goings? are we likely to sell/loan Downing, Assaidi, Skrtel or Coates?
There are still some areas I feel we are weak in, would we need to sell to raise funds or has BR access to more transfer money?

Keep up the good work, Rinky. {Ed002's Note - Welcome. Assaidi is going on loan. Skrtel will likely be going. Coates will go if a buyer can be found. I know not of SD.}

09 Aug 2013 11:40:20
So Ed02, you reckon another bid from Arsenal matching our value plus a transfer request fro Suarez will seal the deal? {Ed002's Note - I have not said anything like that.}

I think he means do you think that rather then you said it ed. could be wrong though

09 Aug 2013 11:01:38
If Suarez stays i'm not to sure I would want him in the team now. I could see him missing easy goals on purpose, passing to the opposition and other silly things just to prove a point. He needs to leave before he brings Liverpools good name down AGAIN. kls

09 Aug 2013 14:13:51
That won't help him get the transfer he wants.
Also, BR won't let him anywhere near the field while that's his attitude!
Welshboydave

09 Aug 2013 10:20:12
Hi Eds
Heard a rumour that Luis Suarez is going to do the biggest U-turn ever by coming out & committing his future to the club & this will come out today. If this is true I think that it will just be his hand forced by John Henry, apparently there was some comments from Suarez in Marca saying he loves the club, fans, blah blah blah, again not sure how true that was but starting to get confused by him. Personally as much as a great player he is we can't afford to have his attitude ruin our rebuilding. I think if this rumour about him committing himself to us is true then I think its only going to be until next season then all this will start again, then if he is not playing well & having a attitude problem his form may dip & his value will plummet. In this stupid market his value must be around £55-60million, I'd say more £70-80million but his on the field problems drop his value. I think Liverpool must sell now & I think John Henry's comments were a bit of poker playing. I think Liverpool have replacements lined up & if we can afford to get them in without relying on the Suarez money it would put us in a great position to sell Suarez, replacement in, Henry saying he won't be sold so hopefully a foreign club will come in at the end and pay us silly money for him to try & make us sell when Henry probably wants to sell anyway, again it could be great Poker playing by John Henry, he did it with Torres & now he seems to be doing it with Suarez to get best price. Either way I think this needs sorting quickly, we need to be looking forward to Stoke next week & getting first 3 points on the board. I trust the owners as in my opinion the work they have done behind the scenes stabilising this club & bringing it back from the brink has been amazing, I believe in Brendan Rodgers as I do think he has the potential to be something special & I believe this football club is bigger than any player & this club will be challenging in the near future with or without Luis Suarez.

Henry is right at one point: we will not get a player of Suarez caliber. And it's not even about time. We simply can not get a replacement of the same playing level.
Of course Henry is a diplomat so he only said half of a sentence, other half to be figured out by readers :)
But the fact is: we are not able to sell Suarez and get equally good replacement. Maybe the money factor can change this, but then it has to be very big money and not from a rival club.

Well said John, I believe John Henry is a very shrewd businessman and he like most of us has had enough of the Suarez situation. I think his statement will either get the clubs that are interested in Suarez to come forward or make Suarez realise he does not hold all the strings and he has to buckle down say sorry to the club and fans that have stood by him then show his brilliance on the field for L.F.C. {Ed002's Note - It won't make any difference to clubs considering making a bid or not.}

He is not doing anything but signing for the first non epl team to offer a decent price. Thankfully.

Regardless of whether or not he makes a statement today, I can;'t see anything past Luis being the central figure in Real Madrid's 3 man attack. £55m-£60m is a fair price but I think he will sell for a considerable amount lower to Real Madrid.

Agree with much of this.

Only thing I would add is that Henry's comments indicate to me he is willing to string this out until January - meaning he won't allow the price to be dictated by the looming end of this transfer window.

In that scenario, Saurez could potentially be loaned out until Jan? Maybe give Napoli a call .

IF the right price came, Suarez will go and it ill be naïve to think that lfc is not working on replacements. However time is running out and suarez knows this so the bid had to happen now or else, no dice.

09 Aug 2013 10:09:19
Hi Eds just a quick question when a player hands in a transfer request there is no obligation from the club to accept it right? Also it doesn't necessarily force the club to sell does it?
Thanks, {Ed002's Note - There are no obligations to accept it or sell.}

09 Aug 2013 09:45:46
Haha I H'IN LOVE THIS SITE!
Got massive respect to all the Ed's and posters too. Awesome :-)

Here, here!

09 Aug 2013 09:36:06
Well done Mr Henry for showing a bit of back-bone.

Yes, they've made naive mistakes, but I am very confident we are still in good hands.

09 Aug 2013 10:38:33
I agree, and as you are one of the better posters, this makes me feel even more secure.

Frankly, I think they couldn't be much more different from the cowboys H&G.

Still not bowled over by them but not selling him to a rival is a smart move and one that I totally support . arsenal have a tough draw with the turks and might not even make the champs league proper .

I agree. I wouldn`t say they were naïve. They were ill-advised would be my thinking. Henry is ready to draw this out and make sure the club`s interests are secured whatever the outcome may be. Take a bow, JWH!

09 Aug 2013 09:26:09
Never been that impressed with ally cissokho but will of course give him a chance and support him and hope he does well! {Ed002's Note - In which case it would be best not to start the sentence with "never been that impressed".}

Fair enough ed but my point is if he's playing for Liverpool I will support him it's just I've seen him struggle whenever I've watched him same way I've never been impressed with khedira even though he's held in such high regard. {Ed002's Note - I am glad that you will be giving him support. You won't need to worry about Khedira moving to Liverpool of course.}

Of course ed, I'm holding out for Toni Kroos

09 Aug 2013 09:10:07
With Cody and suso and Robinson out on loan any chance one of the Liverpool ed's could do a update on how the lads are getting on every so often??? {Ed002's Note - Someone did at one time provide a regular update of the loaned out players - if there is a poster who wishes to pick up on that I will make sure it gets posted.}

Coady played in Sheffield Utd's last match, but they lost 1-0; Robinson was also involved in Blackpool's defeat last weekend; he played well that match I heard.

09 Aug 2013 10:37:58
Eds, you'll likely spend less hours creating a 'loan players updates' section than you would spending eternity instructing folks to RTP. {Ed001's Note - unfortunately the people who repeat questions are also too lazy to read anything other than their own posts.}

I normally watch the championship. Robinson was one of blackpools better players, didn't really deserve to lose. Coady had a so.so game. Looked competent, nothing to tell you about really.

Ed, I will be more than happy to pick this up on a regular basis, we are going to have a substantial number of players on loan this season, it's easy to forget about Adorjan at Groningen and Mukendi at Partick Thistle . {Ed002's Note - I appreciate it and look forward to the updates.}

Watched the Blackpool game. Robbo did ok/well. Very similar to usual to be honest, you've seen him play for us. He has good periods, does some great defending and also during the game gets beat of makes a mistake.
Overal I would say solid, but it wasn't against high level opposition

IMO

09 Aug 2013 09:01:05
Ed02,
I would be happy to hear your take on the Henry interview in the Telegraph. Good move? Bad move? I'm surprised by the tone I must say.

I get the whole thing, LS want out, the club wanting him out a long time ago, a large part of the fans wants him out by now. So, why this? Still looking for a higher (won't say 'realistic') bid, prefererly from outside of England. Or is even he fed up by the antics, showing him and other clubs that we actually will keep him (until January? Next season?) 'til everyone (LS party that is) involved shows an appropriate amount of respect in this matter?

Good thing to push the price up I suppose. But I still expect him to be sold to RM, with transfer request, in the region of £40M (but let's not go there, because I have no clue and it's not that relevant for me.)

{Ed002's Note - It is largely posturing and, as far as I am concerned, a little shove in the back of Suarez to force a transfer request to be submitted (which is worth £2M plus to Liverpool). Knee jerk reactions are oft regretted and quite frankly none of this should be happening in public. Mr Henry does however need to be careful about being disrespectful to other clubs, whether they in his view deserve it or not. It will eventually reflect badly on Liverpool and the good reputation has been tarnished enough by the Toxic One already.

I think we are well beyond pushing the price up or down, but the efforts continue to get other bids on the table.

The winners out of all of this are the media of course - they will, in the main, lap this up. And I don't suppose for one minute that is what the club or the owners want.}

09 Aug 2013 10:46:15
The Toxic One is a fantastic way to refer to DF.

To address 002's other point: the media have been opportunistic historically. The posturing will absolutely embellish every last word by Henry - predictable and expected.

Thank you for enlightening me/us. (Too bad some people here seem reluctant to accept The Light, but generally speaking I, like others, feel this site has levelled up qualitywise since mandatory registration.)

09 Aug 2013 08:37:43
I think Jw is saying he won't be sold is true, I think he may well go on loan to Real Madrid for a season with a decent down payment and a player coming in the opposite direction, not in the know just my opinion, that way what Jw says is true eh is still a Liverpool player and he has not be sold

No it's not true. It's aimed at pressing Suarez into submitting a TR I think, thereby making sure the DF doesn't get the additional £2 million.

Surely the two million would only be a matter of principle?

I can't see that being the case at all.

We're talking big numbers with any potential transfer so the two million is peanuts in comparison. {Ed002's Note - It is more than 1% of the total annual turnover of the football club Davey. If Liverpool see that as "peanuts" then fine.}

Surely it would be simpler for the club to just tell Suarez he has to put in a request? {Ed002's Note - He knows that.}

09 Aug 2013 08:16:26
Good Morning ED1, 2 and all! have a great day! {Ed002's Note - And you Don.}

09 Aug 2013 08:01:56
Just reading on ssn that John W henry has said that Luis Suarez will not be sold for any price, in my eyes a man is only as good as his word, if a man shakes another mans hand it is an agreement that he will not go back on as he shows dignity and pride within himself, Luis Suarez should honour his contract with Liverpool, If you keep going the way your going you will just end up like Carlos Tevez and Mario Balloteli getting froze out and hated by the people that used to chant your name, Go into a room by yourself and just think of what you are actually doing and how you are turning every red man, women and child against you, Think yourself lucky that you are pulling on the same shirt as the likes of Kenny Daglish, Ian Rush, John Alldridge, Peter Beadsley, Ian Callaghan, Jan Molby, kevin Keegan and more recently Robbie Fowler, Jamie Carragher and the prolific Steven Gerrard.You have a lot of making up to do. Now thinking of the start of the season against stoke, playing stoke won't be like the past few years as Tony Pulis was so defensivly minded it was nearly impossible to be able to play your own football but with Mark Hughes in charge who knows what blunders he will have put into the team, plus with Luis Suarez out I have full confidence in the pairing of Courtinho playing in behind the new Didier Drogba - Daniel Sturridge. Power, Strength, Speed and Confidence the more more important attributes in a striker:-) Thoughts fellow Reds

Suarez is banned for the Stoke game and the following 5 after that. Also, I am not sure he capable of thinking like the way you put it.

Th way I see it "The real AG" every time we sign a player you can look at his skills, his speed, his power, but I think one of the most important things you should look for is the commitment of the player and if you think he will show loyalty for the nexxt ten years. People talk about daniel agger going to barcelone but people do forget he has YNWA tattooed on his knuckles so I think he will be pulling on the red shirt for many years to come :-)

That is why the policy of signing the youth
they will be here for long

Allthough I do agree with the youth coming in because I think Sterling and Ibe are a great addition to our squad and will be able to pressure down the wings being brought on at around 65 mins in to a game, but sterling made a great start last season and faded out half way for the main reason he was only 17 a very young player but not used to the pace and strength of the premier league so that is why as well as youth we also need experienced players in there prime so we can push for not only champions league spots but to pressurise the top of the table:-)

09 Aug 2013 07:50:27
All we need now is for Arsenal to finally get the message that "Suarez will not be sold - especially to you" and announce they are withdrawing their paltry bid of £40,000.001. The extra £1 was a stupid stunt (I think that's the right phrase).
Then we need Luis to come to his senses and apologise to everyone for the grief he has caused by asking for a move.
Finally he needs to change his advisers and get some who will act in his best interests, because the team he has behind him at the moment have screwed up big time. {Ed002's Note - They will not "withdraw" the bid and the £1 was not a stunt as I explained previously Dave. And to be honest, it is not his advisors that need to change it is Suarez - everything is pretty much of his own doing. This posturing will be aimed at forcing a transfer request, which as I have said, I do expect to be forthcoming. An advisor spoke again with Real Madrid on Thursday morning (US time) to try and expedite matters and I would think that the push is continuing with other clubs as well. The window is open a while yet and there will be some twists and turns in terms of major transfers still.}

09 Aug 2013 14:41:59
Is there any latest from Real or anyone else Ed02? {Ed002's Note - No.}

09 Aug 2013 07:35:26
Hi eds what's the news surrounding luuk de Jong do Liverpool hold any interest? {Ed002's Note - Not since last summer.}

Nice response Ed that's why we all love this site. Keep up the great work

09 Aug 2013 07:03:21
I haven't seen much of cissokho play. If he signs, do you think he will be first choice left back or back up for Enrique? {Ed002's Note - Like all players, he will be a valuable squad member.}

09 Aug 2013 05:11:21
Hi just registered.

Once I read LFC do have people checking sites like these.

Many posters wrote across the globe to sell Suarez its not good to keep disgruntled player. They may be gooners and manu fans. How henry took such a decision?

Secondly I posted a few places why not loan Suarez to real Madrid in exchange take another striker from them. When we are in cl we take him back. We should be in cl next season. Both party win. {Ed002's Note - Welcome. Certainly the club uses a small consultancy to provide feedback on public perception. Having Suarez in a dressing room after he has said that the players around him are not good enough will be toxic at best. There will not be any loan of Suarez to Real Madrid - it is not a viable option at all.}

Really? Then note to Liverpool go out and sign Willian tgen, regardless of whether bugs bunny stays or not. {Ed002's Note - A bid of just under €40M has already been rejected.}

09 Aug 2013 13:27:20
Ed the fact he said the players aren't good enough won't matter really in the dressing room. They aren't 5 year olds. He will apologise and everyone will move on. i'm not saying that he will stay but just pointing that out. {Ed002's Note - You don't think any will care that he has told people they are not good enough then?}

09 Aug 2013 03:44:26
Feel quite sorry for John Henry to be honest.
He must be wonI'd feel what the hell is going on at his club.
Seeing Suarez singing and pretending to be carefree as he left training today must have boiled his blood, I know it did mine.
And to be honest it would be the same if it was a rival's player acting like this.

He is an ungreatful git and makes me sick to the pit of my stomach quite frankly.
No respect for anyone at the club or otherwise, even hung team mates out to dry saying they agreed with his position.
I'm guessing Coates and Lucas as they're his buddies, maybe Coutinho also - but then again Suarez is probably doing what he's good at here, lying.

A little disappointed that Henry has said we don't have time to replace Suarez, there are 3 weeks left which surely is enough time, or is he just leaving out the part that nobody decent wants the move.
I'm guessing the latter is the real case.
Let's see if Arsenal can find a replacement in that time.

If Chelsea offered Lukaku plus a few million in the meantime I'd snap their hand off even though he may not suit our so called style.
That lad is going to be a superstar if given time in their team.
Now come on Brendan and John, get out there and sign a quality player to improve our team, morale will shoot up within the club too.
No excuses about time.
Willian is available, go after him if Costa isn't interested.

09 Aug 2013 02:44:59
Aly Cissokho agrees personal terms at Liverpool as Valencia want to push for a permanent deal rather than a loan. deal should be done very soon

09 Aug 2013 02:29:33
Now that Anzi have transfer listed all their players is there a chance Liverpool could sign lacina traore, I think they were interested a while ago so just wondering. It would be a great signing I think. {Ed002's Note - Search engine.}

09 Aug 2013 00:07:48
"We haven't identified anyone who hasn't moved or isn't moving to replace him (Suarez). So for football reasons we can't sell - and especially not to Arsenal."

John W. Henry

Ed's, do you think this is what will happen or is it to increase the price of Suarez even more. Also, with Costa and Atl. Madrid both against the move here, do you think that Costa was actually seen as a replacement for Suarez and now that they've denied any possibility of the move, we don't have anyone else to turn to because it is so late in the window? {Ed002's Note - It is posturing or a very significant mistake.}

09 Aug 2013 01:29:19
I just watched highlights of Liverpool v Arsenal Champions League quarter final when we won 4-2. They were halcyon days under Rafa. I was at the game and I swear I have never been so happy in my life when walking out of Anfield that night. Ok it wasnt the same as being in Istanbul watching the lads create magic but that night was my Istanbul. I've never seen the Torres goal since I saw it live and it just bought back memories of how sensational he really was before he threw his dummy out of the pram. Also much love to Babel what an impact coming off the bench its a shame he wasnt consistent he really had the attributes to be a great footballer. And take a bow Rafa Benitez when everyone around him was going hysterical he was cooler than Clint Eastwood in Dirty Harry! Talking about cool what a pen by Stevie G. I love my LFC. Ok we've not won anything in a while but in the transitional period watch the old DVD's of when we were invincible, support the team even more because when we do win it's going to make it that much sweeter! Take a bow Rogers and Henry!

That was a great game alright.
I nearly cried when Babel outpaced Fabregas and cracked the ball past Almunia.
Great game!
Just one little thing though, we won a cup only last season.
Bit harsh to say we haven't won anything in a while but will give the benefit of the doubt :)

09 Aug 2013 00:51:41
I wonder when it all comes out in the wash if the final straw for suarez was Liverpool releasing the banned racist words list. This was a funny move by the club. Although well intentioned it gives the impression that people within the club are using these words. And certainly the trigger for it was the suarez incident. So it may feel to suarez that the club also feel he is a racist. Something he of course has always denied. This vocal desire to leave has only started since then. Just a theory. thoughts. Of course there are many reasons, but I can't help thinking this would have felt like the club validation of the nature of his act.

I don't think the list has anything to do with Suarez vocal desire to leave starting. From what J Henry has said, the player and agent were told any sale would need to be done early and that has not happened. Luis, being the smart bloke he is, thought he'd take getting a transfer into his own hands.

You will find out that doing something (anything, no matter how funny you think it is) is actually a noble act by the club.

Not a funny move at all. The clubs image took a major dive through the Evra-Suarez episode. The club supported it's player 100% and lots of people lost their jobs over it.

Now players know without any doubt that if they use those words they are on their own and the club will not stand with them.
Discrimination is a serious matter and anything the club can do to stamp it out is a huge positive. I was very pleased the document was produced.

09 Aug 2013 00:27:22
If hiroshi kiyotake is available for around 10 mil can you see Liverpool being interested?

Personally, I don't think that kiyotake has enough quality to play for LFC. Moreover, he may not be able to suit the fast tempo and the competitive English football style.

08 Aug 2013 23:56:26
Why does everyone, from posters on this site to newspaper journalists to sports reporters on tv and radio, insist on saying that the Arsenal bid was £40 million + £1?
It's £40000001 for f*

Probably too stupid to count the zeroes

Because journos always try to make figures easier to digest. People get what you mean if you say it like this and wouldn't if you said it the way you wrote it.

It's to highlight the £1, and to put thoughts in people's head.

Also Chris the least you could have done is include the commas your figure is a mess without commas. £40,000, 001 is a lot easier to understand than what you've put. Anyway £40m + £1 looks better, it sounds better and it highlights the fact that they actually bid ONE POUND over £40m and not £40.5m or £41m, etc. etc.

08 Aug 2013 23:31:28
well said mr henry, you show that little babsastard who he's fabsucken with. suarez the man upstairs has spoken so now you know, what's what. thank you mr henry, you have firmly gone up in my estemation.

08 Aug 2013 23:28:37
Editors I really believe Liverpool should look to replace Suarez with Nico Gaitan or possibly Gaston Ramirez. Gaitan looks a real star player, and a move to England at this time in his career could be perfect. Additionally I think getting one of these players is realistic. Do you agree with my views editors, and do you think Liverpool may move for either of these players? {Ed001's Note - neither are players I would see as a good replacement, neither have convinced me.}

I'd take Diego Costa and Angel di Maria to replace Suarez and Downing.

Gaston Ramirez hasn't been overly impressive since moving to Southampton, I'd see that as a very disappointing transfer if we were to go for him. I'd rather recall Suso than have Ramirez CAM

08 Aug 2013 23:18:57
Henry tell gunners suarez will not be sold
Good news
Plias

How is this good news? Good news would be we've accepted a bid of £45M from Real Madrid.

Its not good news. Its fair news.

Suarez should leave the club. He has done so much damage and is a DF.

But if he leaves, he leaves on our own terms and is not going to Arsenal

08 Aug 2013 23:17:39
Evening EDs, just a quick one. i'm not sure how accurate & reliable tv is but in there website it reporting j.w. henry saying he defo won't sell suarez to arsenal at any price & not even to a foreign club due to lack of time to find a suitable replacement. My question is do we take this as gospel that he won't sell him or you think it more mind games to try push price up to a premium? Sorry bout another suarez question, bet you guys will be relieved when this saga is over? {Ed001's Note - I think it is Henry saying Suarez will go when the club is ready not when he is ready. Though an offer of the right player plus cash would still be accepted, in my opinion, hence the talk of a replacement.}

08 Aug 2013 23:32:36
i do really think we are going to finish higher than last season and I do think we will be in the top 4, last season we were in transition and a few mistakes cost us, even the one against everton were we scored but it got dissalowed, but this season there's a few teams that will be in transition with their new managers, people are saying chelsea because the mourihno factor, but what's the saying about going back to an old club it even happend to king kenny, we are a season ahead of the teams with new managers and hopefully we will cut out the mistakes and we are lucky on the injury side and we will be up there, i'm looking forward to the new season

mickey b

We will get better this year. Pre-season already shows that. We are very cohesive in the way we play and everyone understands the scheme. We just have to get of to a good start. If we can do that, we`ll be fine.

08 Aug 2013 22:39:19
I don't know if anyone else agrees, but I thought JWH's comments tonight were class. Shot Arsenal down completely, it will be interesting to see if he sticks to his word.

JFT 96

JP

He pretty said what he had on his mind and I can understand and agree w/ him. This doesn`t mean Suarez won`t be sold. It just means he will go when the club deems it fit and nothing else. As for the gunners, this just shows how pathetic and desperate they are.

08 Aug 2013 23:04:38
John Henry being reported as saying that he has personally spoken to Arsenal and told them that Luis Suarez is going to be a Liverpool player come September the 3rd. A day after the transfer window closes.
If this statement is true a big thumbs up to FSG for standing their ground and not giving in to player power.
Love what I am seeing on and off the pitch.

Agree completely.

Hopefully we are working on the assumption LS will not be part of the team and attacking replacements will arrive as who knows what sort of playing commitment LS will give. If it's like Torres - I'd rather he joins the reserves.

The only credit I can give LS is that he loves his football and I think once he's accepted he's staying, he'll still give 100%.

Still want him gone.

I think you might be giving Suarez too much credit. Seems to me as if the lad does things which are often less than slightly rational, so I think his reaction if included in a game is just a tad less than predictable. He might decide to headbutt a referee and get banned for the season if he's still annoyed with the situation. Or he might give 100%. Very much reliant on his ability to play nicely with others which given his track record I would be nervous about.

08 Aug 2013 23:00:03
John W Henry has said Suarez isn't for sale to Arsenal or indeed anybody in this transfer window as we will have no time for a replacement.
I sgguest that the Arsenal comment is spot on but he is really saying to Real Madrid or others in Europe. We aren't selling unless we get a good cash plus player deal on the table.

08 Aug 2013 22:53:20
Well that's it. Henry has said Suarez is definitely NOT be leaving before the transfer window ends in Sept.
I still don't think we will see him in a red shirt again. I think he will be benched or in reserves until January, then be sold abroad. Possible loan abroad for a year option also?
Great to see Henry, FSG and Rogers showing that we will not be messed about with

That would lose us a lot of money and severely hurt his sale value. How is this a good idea for the club? Tevez went for how much?

RDL nothing has happened yet and it's a good three weeks to go. Chill.

08 Aug 2013 22:29:51
We have walked through this storm long enough fellow reds. I do believe we are about to see those golden skies. Walk on with hope in your hearts. YNWA.

08 Aug 2013 22:27:21
evening eds just read what j henry has had to say that suarez will not be leaving at all as there is no time to find a replacement of his class and especialy to arsenal I no he has to say this but the way he came across was he ment it so couple of things I no we would sell to over seas but if no over sea team came in for him would he relent and sell to arsenal? also do u belive the plan was to keep suarez and add costa to him or is costa a replacement? surley they have replacements in hand cheers {Ed002's Note - Posturing.}

09 Aug 2013 08:37:11
Hope you're right, Ed02. If we get stuck with Suarez after the window closes that would be most unfortunate. I sincerely wish everybody associated with Liverpool (players, owners, managers) would just stay away from microphones for a while.