Liverpool Banter Archive May 08 2013

 

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08 May 2013 22:30:52
Would rather see''the special one'' at Man U than Moyes, think the wheels would fall off faster. Everton can only do so much, small team that they are, Moyes or no Moyes. Mourinho would leave Man U high and dry after a few seasons. Interesting times! Uglygeordiegenius

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08 May 2013 23:07:14
Moyes confirmed as manager tomorrow. I really can't smile wide enough. Ha ha ha ha ha ha

Waro

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09 May 2013 00:04:40
I would rather see the special one at chelsea against moyes and united which will make more difficult for moyes and united at the sametime it won't take time for their fans calling for his head, after all they are not used to losing, and that will start the mess and panic through their hierarchy, next season will be more interesting, their are a lot of teams who can take massive advantage of the situation which united are,

Mourinho vs moyes

Wenger vs moyes

City vs moyes

Spurs vs moyes

Liverpool vs moyes

How interesting does that look when moyes will be expected to continue winning championships and make sure united are atleast finishing in top4, or else fans who don't know the meaning of losing will tear moyes and united apart and mess/panic will start, its impossible for any manager to fill those big boots forget moyes who might even struggle to achieve top4 with united!

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08 May 2013 22:27:32
Anyway, if Moyes does make it at Man Utd, they won't have to build a statue of him outside of OT.
A gargoyle on a rainwater spout would be more like it.
The handsome get!
The Juicer

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I no its an old one but he still looks the spit of gollum to me

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08 May 2013 22:27:08
fingers crossed, Martin O'Neill is another candidate for the Man U job

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08 May 2013 22:24:44
With fergie retiring now is the best time to steal a march on manuer and spend. They'll definitely be vunerablr with a new manager and new style. This summer is going to be huge on the recruiting end as we're 2-3 big players away from being a force

-slim

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08 May 2013 22:21:50
Season 2013/14

Fergie: ". Hey Moyesy, I'd appreciate it if that you tell the lads to ease the foot off the pedal against Hull City, Brucey is going through rough time (again). "

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08 May 2013 22:03:40
i THINK TO CHALLENGE TOP 4 WE NEED:
5 players:
1 striker---remy easy 5 mil
2 defenders---- 2 CB
2 midfielders--- one CDM and one CM or CAM

If reina was to leave, ithink the only player to fill the void would be JULIO CESAR

what do you think??

c'moooooon u rrrrrrreeeeddds

ynwa
ALI G
peace out hombres

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08 May 2013 21:58:37
For all you sturridge criticizers:
Heres a fact for you lot
Suarez opening 13 games: 4 goals 3 assists
Sturridge opening 13 games 8 goals 3 assists

Apply water to burn
ALI G

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I think the Sturridge criticism was unfair. I don't think it was aimed at the fact he was a bad player, but more that he didn't look like he gave a toss and was perhaps too selfish on the ball.
derryred

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If only you had the stats for work-rate and care factor. Sturridge is a good player imo but if he pulled his finger out he could be great.

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08 May 2013 21:56:21
come on lads let's go get jose mourinho as our manager! ;)

i called it first!

maka

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Wrong page pal!!!

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No taa.

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08 May 2013 18:47:53
FSG selling Liverpool Stake?

majestic69 {Ed052's Note - not selling, perhaps looking for investment - into the club}

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With no European football again and still a fortune needed for the stadium work they need to find cash somewhere.

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09 May 2013 01:04:06
I'll throw a sky diver in! Oh yeah alreeady paid a £5 to get on the waiting list! Its ok I've got 1 of them tree's that grows money.

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08 May 2013 21:36:05
Hi Eds. Reports suggest that Suarez wants to stay. Any truth in the fact that the owners will allow / want Suarez to leave for offers over 40 million. {Ed052's Note - I dont belive 40m would get him, no}

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Come on, let's be honest. Moyes has done a great job at Everton and we can only admire the stability he has given them, and produced a very good team on a very modest budget. It's a big ask to follow Fergie, but he has as good a chance as anyone. Everton will be gutted to lose him.

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A great job at everton? No trophies and never won away at Liverpool, chelsea or arsenal, spearing won more with us in 1 season at one of our darkest times as a club than he ever has at everton

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We couldn't beat them home or away this season, and they finished above us last season and likely to do it again this season.

Give him some credit.

KBL

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Again and again what I read is they finishing above ous 2 seasons. Its must be a big deat 4 them. But is it in reality? Finishing a place above and with some handfull 3-4 points? and u are compairing two tea
ms on different level. Everton is in their best time. Beins, falleni, at their best. A team that has played and built for around 3 yr. Compaired to BR's newbees? New manager new system, new players. There is no match.
Liverpool has underachived, and everton are punching above their weight.
This season at the start we were without a partner for suarez with carroll loaned and borini brocken. Compaired to that everton had jelevic and falleni in top form.
Plus the kids br had to use as lack of strength. Reality is it could have been worse. Had moyes been in place of rodgers we would had been b
ellow the top 10.

U can't compare the two clubs headind standing at diff direction. Just because the are neerer to eachother in table

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08 May 2013 21:34:07
I can't stop smiling today. Everton fans gutted, Man United fans gutted.

Beautiful

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08 May 2013 21:25:20
If moyes leaves ( which I hope) everton will be demoralised and will fall as a team, he got them high up the table with a very low transfer allowance, no other manager could get them there consistently with such low cash, the fall begins
ALI G

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08 May 2013 21:24:18
Hope the Moyes rumours are confirmed tomorrow.

Everton lose their last 2 games, we win ours, that would round off a very nice May.

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08 May 2013 21:21:03
IF Reina leaves, I believe we will have lost a big part of Liverpool, not many of you know this but he is probably one of the most influential players in the dressing room, according to gerrard and br, he is also pure banter, just look him up at the Liverpool chanel. If he leaves then we will end up like arsenal. no decent keeper always interchanging, no constistency. and no we cannot get mignolet, he litterally can't comand a defence even with a megaphone, look at sunderland, and they would over price him
ALI G

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08 May 2013 20:49:15
When Liverpool sign neymar in the summer you know that lamp has run out of wishes lol

MIKEY

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Personally, I'd be pissed if we used a magic wish for Neymar

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I'd wish for gerrard to be 20 again lol

Ashy

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08 May 2013 20:47:23
I think some people may be surprised this summer in regards to outs. We know Carragher is retiring so that's a given. We expect some of the players loaned out this season or even eased into the reserves will be.

By this I mean players like Wilson (who's deal expires this summer), Pacheco, Spearing, possibly Flannagan. I can see all these going to be honest, we will only receive nominal fees for them, but it all helps in grand scheme of things.

I also expect to see Carroll, Downing and maybe Coates leaving. I say Downing because although he has had a good season for us, I still think the timing is right to move him on. His valuation will have improved considerably compared to this time last season. I hope we receive in the region of 20-25 million for the two of them. We do need to learn from previous lessons and not loan these out for a season only to end up back with a player we don't want and with a further year down on his contract.

Coates should still bring in a fee in the region of 6-8 million as he's still young and highly regarded still as an upcoming youngster.

I really don't see Reina or Skrtle leaving this summer. I think Rodgers rates them and will work more on them as players next season. The above would still bring in roughly 36-41 million which is a good amount to reinvest in the squad. Rodgers will also have a certain amount from the owners he can use.

Jonesred

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I have to agree with everything there, and I too believe Skrtel and Reina will play a big part next season. We need to add to our best players not sell them.

Red Lee

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08 May 2013 20:20:21
Eds is it true Newcastle to make an £8M offer for Joe Allen?
DBol {Ed052's Note - Joé Állén? No}

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{Ed052's Note - Joé Állén? No}

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ha ha. very clever. wonder how many noticed what you done there Monsieur Ed052

Roy

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Hah. that was bon Ed! :D

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08 May 2013 19:35:32
Alright eds what chance Baines and fellani to follow moyes? {Ed052's Note - Fellani has been mentioned, Baines possible. I know our native Utd Ed wants Baines, but not Fellani}

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It took Ferguson how many years to win a trophy at Utd?
I hope they're prepared to give Moyes at least a decade then.
The Juicer

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I think Baines will follow but Fellaini will go to Chelsea and Mirrilas might leave as well

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08 May 2013 19:14:26
Eds can we prize it out of any of you? How much money do we have to spend everyone on this sight would love to know as it is an important time for us with a transition period of three of the top four?

RedsMatt {Ed052's Note - as we always say. A) there's no fixed budget. B) the owners will be supportive within reason.}

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08 May 2013 19:56:32
get in there!

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08 May 2013 19:29:30
Anyone else feel like this is one of the most important summers ever for this club make or break almost

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We have said that every year, for the last three years

Random Red

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Yeh I agree. going to be loads of transfers, high profile managers swapping clubs, big managers/players retiring. It's a perfect time for Liverpool to add 2 or 3 players with quality and have a real go

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No, we've been crying out for quality players for years and all our previous owners failed to deliver anything special.

We've been short of either a striker, midfielder, defender or goalkeeper every summer and by the time the season starts we are still short.

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Yeah I get you lot but with teams going to spend big before the fair play rules come in its important we don't fall to far behind as we are and aren't far behind now depending on how you look at it we must get closer not further

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Mourinho will demand a substantial "war-chest". City will spend big. Man United have already said they'll spend £60m+, Tottenham and Arsenal will both flash the cash. I can see Arsenal REALLY spending for a change.
It's going to be an agent's dream this Summer. hundreds of millions will change hands and Taggart's resignation will be like a red-rag to Chelski, Citeh et al.
Our best chance of surviving this pissing-contest amongst the billionaires is to continue to build a team/squad of players who WANT to play for the Club.
Remember, fellow reds, we have an u-21 and youth set-up to be envied.
We have Luis Suarez, Phillipe Coutinho, Steven Gerrard, Daniel Sturridge, Danny Agger, Lucas Leiva and supporters desperate for success.
We get it right in the Summer and we could actually re-ignite our standing in the food-chain. the very top!
Personally, I would sell Downing, Reina, Spearing, Shelvey, Enrique, Carroll, Jones, Skrtel, Coates and Borini. None of these will be massively missed and the money raised/wages saved could allow us to move on.
The likes of Suso, Sterling, Adorjan, Coady, Texeira, Dunn, Kelly and Wisdom etc. could be key to 2013/14! Players we already have, added to new "discoveries" added to established stars could equal a challenge.
But we need to sort out our spine. key positions need experience and quality.
Get the first eleven right (that's the problem) and the supporting-cast is already there!
ANFIELDPETE

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08 May 2013 19:28:02
Even as Liverpool fans we have to applaud Fergie. He is part of the reason our league is the best and why it attracts the best players in the world. He has always pushed to make his team stronger which has caused the rest of the league to attempt to keep up.
I for one agree that he is the greatest club manager the world has seen, that's not having a love in for the man, its simply reading the results of his career at both Aberdeen and Man U, its just unfortunate for us Liverpool fans that he happened to take our fierce rivals, whatever club had taken him on would have reached a similar level.
Although we have hated him at times it is only because we have been jealous of his teams consistency and of a manager who can inspire such a good run for 26 years! What wed give to have that at our club, Stability, Class, Top Quality players in almost every position.
Liverpool still have their reputation, now we need to back a manager who can do something similar on the pitch, we need our Fergie, will it be Rodgers, maybe, hopefully, because we need it to happen before the big bucks of City, Chelsea, United and sheer revenue of Arsenal forever keep us out of top four, never mind league champions!

Come on you Koppites, let's have enough class about us to admit he was one of the greats, but we've had our fair share of them too, let's hope its our turn again.

Anfield Andy

Anfield Andy

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08 May 2013 20:16:20
Their is a difference being class and being bully, ferguson is the most punished manager in history of english football, he has played all dirty games to win trophys, he had cross all limits in footy which were shocking, it came a time where even FA were tired continuing punishing him, so he took advantage and bullied refrees, officials rival manager, media etc instead of playing fair, their is a reason why he never dominated europe just league because had so much power in this league which was unreal.

Today is the happiest day for true fans who were shock to see fergie pushing officials, refree, behaving ill in media, fergie time, consistantly bullying and very busy in media then managing united!

One of the dirtiest manager the earth has ever seen and will ever see this is what Alex Ferguson is and he knows it!

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He is one of the greatest but i'm not going to get in a hoorah about it, leave that to them, all I care about is LFC and Supporting Rodgers

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Fergie is indeed a great manager and ranks amongst the greatest of all time.

However, after his infamous "I've come to knock Liverpool off their perch" speech, he still failed to surpass Bob Paisley's three and Liverpool's five European Cup wins!

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Partly I agree with you. But I have to sleep on it. Would be really classy of us to aplaud him. But on the other hand. Its SAF.

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Paisley miles better, and classier, and more humble. Just a nicer bloke. Taggart a horrible bell end. Good riddance.

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08 May 2013 19:10:11
Totally amazed by the news coming from OT, I thought I would die before Fergie retired and I'm only 38. Hearing the rumours about Moyes though has really made my day and I really hope its true, Moyes has done absolutely NOTHING for me as a football fan to be worried about. He might get it right after a few years of trying but as for a continued period of success? I don't think so. let's be honest, the only reason Man U have been so successful especially over the last 5-6 years or so is because of Fergie and now he's gone and with the financial rules coming in it might just close the gap for a LOT of teams.

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Moyes has never won at Anfield. So let him sign

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I'm hoping moves does sign, think it will be their souness moment, beginning of a period of demise, referees have admitted to hoping united got an early goal or an easy win so fergies would be ok with them

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08 May 2013 19:02:06
What's with the taggart love in. Good riddance to the horrible p**s head

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08 May 2013 19:26:40
He's only gone upstairs - moyes will be puppet/yes man. Same as busby with docherty. Fergie won't be able to help himself - I can't wait!

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No, that's wrong mate.
He's always talked of the Liverpool / Utd matches with the upmost respect.
The Juicer

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08 May 2013 18:55:49
More rumours of fsg willing to sell a percentage in Liverpool. I genuinely belive something is going on behind the scenes, either in regards to a part sale or a full sale of the club. fresh investment in the club is needed and although fsg should be given credit for supporting the manager and previous managers, we find ourselves in a position were we need to invest now or be left behind forever. what we require is some quality players, unfortunately I doubt we have the money to buy such players still the present time. anfield needs seriously updating the re-development can't come quick enough, have the present owners got the cash to fulfill such a project?. this summer is going to be huge in terms of where we as a club are going, failure to get it right this summer and I fear we will forever be a mid table team. maybe a fresh takeover is the way for us to compete again at the top of the table.

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What kind of rumours did you hear or were did you read it or saw it? iCan you give some names of websites etc etc.
Thanks!

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If the owners sell a share in the club what makes u think that money will go on transfers? It will go to the owners to invest in other projects that have nothing to do with Liverpool.

MIKEY

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08 May 2013 18:52:37
Just out of interest who would everyone like to win tonight? As much as I can't stand Chelsea I would rather them then Tottenham because hopefully if Tottenham get 5th they won't as great of caliber of players as they would If they were in champions league. Also they have just spammed bale!

London red

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I want spurs to loose because chelsea will spend big no matter what but if spurs finish fourth them you have 5 teams rather then four who will attract players a head of us

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08 May 2013 18:46:56
Great day for Liverpool FC. The Whiskey nose retires from football. ManUtd will fall apart in pieces. Why? Because no manager will get the respect Fergie got from his players at ManUtd. The new manager who will be installed has got a hell of task to achieve something. Fergie did have a status at the club. The Glazers wouldn't even thought about replacing Fergie even when he didn't won the premiership for 2 years. The new manager has to earn that status and respect. What will the Glazers do when the new manager wins nothing for let's say 2 years in a row?
Lets just wait and see what happens. But this could be the beginning of the end of the dominance of ManUtd. Liverpool dominated for 20 years in the 70's and 80's. Than it was ManUtd for 20 years. Who will be next to dominate for years to come. ?

Maurice

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08 May 2013 19:23:42
wishfull thinking i'm afraid but it ain't as simple as that, Manchester United are biggest club in the world financially and through fanbase and that plays a massive part in success, it isn't like it used to be when we fell from glory, they have the best squad still and aslong as whoever the new manager is rotates it like fergie did and adds the odd new bit of talent they won't be going anywhere, fergie has set the current team up with a winning mentality and young great potential and it isn't just about the one man, it goes right through all the staff at the club from the trainers and coaching to the chefs. we will have to wait and see what happens anyway

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What if they make Giggs the manager? I'm pretty sure the players would respect him.

Red Ollie

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08 May 2013 20:46:55
So what if they are financially big? City and chelsea have more richer owners then whole of united hierarchy including their so called owners, let's be honest here united will never be the same again and city and chelsea can easily take massive advantage especially special one is coming back that should scare hell of united, opps moyes vs special one and wenger and city ha ha ha, next season must be very interesting because they will struggle for championships and consistantly pressure from fans who are not use to losing it moyes will crumble faster then benitez time at chelsea that's how the pressure will be against a manager who is very famous and a CV for bottling it without pressure now imagine when the heat will be on!

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08 May 2013 18:32:46
we will proberly sell carroll/skrtl/assaidi/cuates and with carra ret that leaves the squad 5 players short. we should try and buy our number 1 targets if they are not availible we should keep our money in the bank. if we go for the second best again we find ourselves in same situation next season. what I am trying to say if we have a budget of 20 mil and maybe trough sales can generate another 30 mil, and the 50 mil will go on 1 cb 1 mid and 1 winger and they are making a difference to team we already have I will be happy. I believe players like sterling/suso/wisdom/kelly and maybe ibe next season if one of them gets some minutes and the team is strong they will develop faster. it does not make sence to spend money on assaidi/cuates and they never play they costed 10mil combined buy 1 instead with class and have 1 youngster on the bench every game. 1 youngster can shine in a strong team, at the start of the season we had to play wisdom/suso/sterling that's too much for them at there age. we won't have european football next season so we be playing less matches. buy 3 class players get into the cl and we add what we believe then what is needed. there is no shame in selling players and losing some money that just don't cut it, it happens to all the big teams. if we had a vidic/chielini type of defender next to agger we would had 10 points more this season 1 class player can have that impact, can you imagine if we can add 3 to the team we already have. from sunny malta

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08 May 2013 18:29:47
Liverpool FC to sign Aleksandar Dragovic, Christian Eriksen, Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Xabi Alonso, Andreas Weimann, Alex Pearce, Fernando Torres and Marc Andre Ter Stergen this summer. Players leaving will be Martin Skrtel, Seb Coates, Pepe Reina, Joe Allen, Fabio Borini and Oussama Assaidi

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Really 3 attacking mid's wow didn't think we were going to do that

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08 May 2013 18:29:25
Looks like the last wish on my post {31st Dec 2012} has actually happened!

About bloody time!

Ps, I'm trying to find the guy with the lamp and 1 wish left. where's Robin Williams when you need him eh? Lol

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08 May 2013 18:13:24
Whats the deal with Cuenca at the moment? Cheers Boss

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Your welcome.
derryred

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Wants to stay at Ajax on loan next season, waiting for Barca to make a decision

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08 May 2013 18:08:29
Next season will be vital to us. With three of the top 4 bringing new managers in and needing time to adapt, we should really take advantage. I know Chelsea, united and city will bring in top managers, all managers need time to bed in. We really need to hit the ground running

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I was thinking exactly the same thing, potentially Arsenal may changing manager also.

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08 May 2013 17:56:28
I am not looking forward to this summer to be honest, I have been supportive of BR and FSG for ever, I have spent good money travelling to 5-6 games each season for the last 15 years! But I never felt so bad about a summer transfer window!
Its not that Reina and Suarez will be leaving! Its the quoted prices of 50 million euros combined!

I mean Suarez without any clauses is easily worth 50 million pounds!

If we sold both thoose world class players we can rebuild the squad people say! And I could have agreed my self to some degree but if we get 42 million pounds for both we will not have money to rebuild squat! It seems downing will stay and I dream not, but its just a dream!

Mignolet? How much does Liverpool think he is worth? He will cost easily £ 10 m!
And brad jones will stay!
Thats just horrible news for me! Suppose we get mignolet, he is not better than reina and will be competing with himself for the nr. 1 spot!

Then Suarez, 34 million pounds!

Sanchez costs 20-23 m
Eriksen costs 15-20 m
Negredo 13-18 m

We won't have money to rebuild nada and will not get top 4 with repalcements only for those leaving only, most our nr. 1 targets are wanted by other big clubs as well! Ohh I wish I had 10 billion, I would have bought Liverpool tomorrow :' (

Malak {Ed023's Note - Cheer up Malak, IMO Suarez and Reina will be here next season}

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I get what you are saying, but I remain optimistic. I think this summer window will be the most important one we have had a long time. With Man City, UTD and Chelsea all changing managers, you can bet Arsenal and Tottenham will be upping there game to get into the champions league spots. We need to be smart and quick in the summer, we can't afford mistakes now, not this summer.

The real AG

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08 May 2013 18:50:58
I appriciate you being positive mate! But in ed002 opninion they are gone! And he/she is right 8 out of 10 times! While I can hope the 2 players he is wrong about are Suarez & Reina I would be very naive to think so!
I will cheer up when Liverpool start acting like a top club! Not in the sence of spending, but a top club run by people who know what they are doing, a top club wouldn't let reina go for 10 million euros, or put a buyout of 40 million euros in Suarez contract which will leave us with 37 million euros maximum after payouts for suarez and his agents!
Lets say Barcelona come for both which is a possibilty, their final offer for both mate will be 40 million euros and cristian tello!

We get around £ 31 m

We spend 10 getting mignolet!
And 21 to replace Suarez and rebuild the squad!
Because it looks like b. jones and downing will be here!
Shelvy will go out on loan not be sold, and the and we will maybe have 25 m from other sails!
Suarez replacment alone should be a 25 million player! I am trying to be realistic because even though some people on here celebrate like we won the league because whiskeynose is retiring
Next season has transitional season again written all over it, and quite frankly eds and fellow reds I am tired and sick of useless excuses!

Malak

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Malak my man, again I understand the patience factor.

I think we have excellent, responsible owners. And you are wrong about LFC putting in clauses of 10 and 40 million for Reina and Suarez. It was Suarez's reps who negotiated in the 40 million Euro clause into his new contract (Ed002 has confirmed this) and this is only a starting point.

As for Reina, 10 million is a crap deal I know, but nothing is finalised and Ed002 pointed out how Barca want ter Stegen as their first choice, not Reina, after they were turned down by Courtois. I am not convinced Reina will leave, nor Suarez.

In the event Suarez and Reina, leaves, I admit, I would be very worried if we look into Mignolet as replacement for Reina and as for Suarez, I can't think of us going for a player of similar quality and potential to improve as when he joined us. What will possibly happen is that we will buy 2 players, 2 strikers perhaps to replace him.

Jones is decent back up keeper and Downing will most probably be a 'Squad Player' next year as we know, we are interested in bringing in another wide player.

Shelvey will probably leave and we might/ might not bring some one in. In truth I am not bothered about that, I think in Gerrard, Lucas, Henderson and Allen we have a good bunch, what we probably need is a defensive mid. Again we will see what will happen in the summer.

Finally, you were one of the most positive posters around during a tough time in this forum, don't change now, when we still have the chance to get Champions League next year (I know I know!).

The real AG

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08 May 2013 20:56:55
Dont get me wrong bro! I believe BR is a good manager and all! I don't agree with you however on the part about Suarez, its not a starting point or nothing, "calm the sheep" is what this starting point is! Also when altetico madrid are serious and I have it on good info from work that suarez welcomes the move if he can't move to Barca.

My god it used to be atletico madrid players dreaming to play for us, now its the other way around! 'And that makes me a sad panda'
I will support who ever plays next season and fight the bashers etc. But iam sick of spending money on transitional seasons much longer!

Malak

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There won't be anymore transitional seasons. There has to be results next season. BR will be well aware of that. I have never agreed with this transitional season crap. We have international players and they shouldn't need a transitional season every time a manger comes in, especially when we play similar style as we have done with KD and now BR (Hodgson being the exception).

It is a surprise to me however that Suarez welcomes the Atletico interest. I would have thought they would be the last of the interested parties to have any chance of getting him.

Next season is Make or Break simply put. No more excuses.

The real AG

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09 May 2013 09:25:06
Thats the problem mate, You think BR wants to move on his 2 best players? And keep downing and Brad jones? Its shocking mate!
I know what am talking about, I have studied football for 10 years and worked with a lot of footballers and managers from a lot of different countries! I can tell you now, its as simple as this! Reinas shacky start to the season ment FSG put him as the number 1. Out, not because he wouldn't turn it around but because he is on close to 100 000 a week! that's it! Reina is irreplaceable, he is the best keeper in the world playing with his feat! Liverpool will never be able to replace him with a keeper of the same caliber!
My point is mate, BR will be f**cked out of a job!
Reina is the most popular player at Liverpool, not gerrard or carra! I have been to anfield on trips and spoke to most players

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08 May 2013 17:52:26
Most significant transfer this season. Fergie retires,?. in.

Those of us who remember Dalglish leaving after winning our last premier league title, will also remember a certain Souness taking over and not managing the transition correctly and we've never recovered. Utd. Will need to get this right, Fergie is an incredible manager. This could be gap closing for many teams.

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How is that a transfer?

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08 May 2013 17:37:44
I think moyes to utd, Martinez to Everton

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Shame because Martinez is a better manager than Moyes.

Was hoping Everton would go for someone like Warnock, LOL.

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I agree.

Andy K

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08 May 2013 17:37:04
Hi ed's if the rumours that moyes is to comfirmed to new manc manager are true, then WOW he must think all his birthdays, xmas and winning the lotto have all come at once, he's never won a trophy, he weren't a well known footballer, he's never managed in the champions league proper (qualifiers don't count), I don't know many manc fans, but I wouldn't be happy, as it seems that because he's a fellow glaswegian, he's qualified, the news are saying he's a believer in youth, rooney, hibbert, barkley our the only kids been givin a chance! Deluded choice if ya ask me, maybe fergie still wants his 2 bobs worth, and moyes is just a yes man! As a red I, m over the moon! Thoughts?
Harry redknapp must think were did it all go wrong! {Ed023's Note - Over the moon? No, because I would prefer if Liverpool (my team) were doing better, then I would be over the moon. Ask this time next and I will let you know :)}

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08 May 2013 18:25:41
Over the moon to regards of moyes to mancs yes, and of course its about how we are doing, but I think we are on the right track, and as always, in most things football, its wait until this time next year but being optimistic and having faith is what being a loyal fan is! And when ever our rivals are going through a situation, why not gloat a bit, because rival fans have gloated at us quite a lot recently! Banter and oppinions is what footys about!

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08 May 2013 17:28:52
David Moyes new Manchester United manager

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Hope so.
That's Man U finished.

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08 May 2013 17:26:51
We will miss you Sir Alex Ferguson. Respected by all

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Respected by all? He bullied the FA, He bullied ref's into giving decisions his teams way and adding on time til his team scored. He refused to speak to the tv because they had the audacity to question his family's involvement in transfers to utd. Respect him? you must be joking
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08 May 2013 18:47:20
Erm what?! Yes he was hugely successful, but also manipulative with the FA wrapped round his finger. Very good at mind games. Not sorry he's going, it is a good day for English football. I respect his success but not the man. No more Fergie time, hopefully no more double standards.

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Speak for yourself, I'm glad he's off. I don't mean that in a nasty way, he was just dominating football too much. This might open the PL up a little bit more now. Next season should be very interesting.

JFT 96

JP

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08 May 2013 17:22:39
Eds fellow reds, , Howard Webb the new bookies favourite for utd job.

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08 May 2013 17:16:10
First Maggie then Fergie!
Somewhere there is a scouser with a magic lamp with one wish left.
The Goatherder
JFT96 {Ed023's Note - Ha ha}

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He should have used the first wish to go back to May 4th 1979, the 2nd to fix the Thatcher problem and then used the other 3rd in '86.

He'd be a happier Scouser.

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April 8th-May 8th so I think on June 8th Neymar will sign!

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08 May 2013 17:02:46
with moyes going to man u

baines fellani and jags could all prob leave everton

do you think any of them could be likely to join Liverpool I like baines and jags

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Baines wouldn't join us, I reckon he'll follow Moyes. We can do better than Jagielka, and I can't see Rodgers wanting Fellaini, though he would be a great signing for any club.

Red Ollie

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08 May 2013 16:58:19
Anyone else hearing that Rodgers has been talking to Man City today?
Ciario80

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Where did you hear this? was it those little voices in you'r head again
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Radio City maybe

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No, saw him in Formby village today

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Doubt it as he's been in court at the Old Bailey with his son all day

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08 May 2013 16:49:20
A great day to celebrate Bob Paisley's unrivalled record of 3 European Cups/Champions Leagues at the same club.

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08 May 2013 17:55:11
how about 38 trophys
13 premier league titles
a treble

no one will ever do what sir alex has

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Yes, but only 2 European cups. Played off the park by Munich (who hit the woodwork 3 times), all neutrals agree the best team lost. Certainly would have lost the penalty shootout against Chelsea if drogba hadn't been sent off. (john terry wouldn't have taken one). So all in all nothing to shout about really
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No name, Ferguson had 26 years for 38 trophies where as Bob Paisley was only manager for 9 years and had 20 trophies.

The real AG

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Nobody will ever have the time he did either buddie let's be honest if he took over now he wouldn't be interested that time

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As if fergie was ever going to break paisleys record.
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With respect it took him nearly 27 years to do that mate, Paisley was only in charge for nine seasons.

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Of course fergis record will be broken.

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08 May 2013 19:31:44
the fact that the odds were against united in the finals means that much more though, i'm sure you scousers can understand that having been in the same situation. paisley was a great manager no doubt and achieved great things, back then though he didn't have to compete with the sugar daddys and the barcelonas e. t. c that ferguson has and to stay at the top so long is incredible and he's created 4 different squads and installed the same winning mentality in all of them, he's out seen every challenge from yourselves, arsenal, Chelsea and now took it back from city. the amount of comebacks and sheer incredible moments is unbelievable

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I don't buy that i'm afraid. You only compare the successes of a manager to their time, every era of management had their challenges.
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Not to mention that when Fergie won most of his success in the 90's and early 2000's including his treble and the majority of the leagues and domestic cups, he had none of the fights that you mention. The sugar daddy era is less than a decade old

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08 May 2013 15:10:02
Am I the only Red who almost feels like we won just something? Goodluck to whoever comes in to replace SAF. He'll need it.

Anyway eds, how much do you attribute Hendo, Downing, Enrique's improvements this season to BR's coaching and managing?

Been wondering.

Singapore Red {Ed023's Note - They have improved to be fair}

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08 May 2013 15:35:54
to daveybootle are you sure a cheating, dirty conniving b. who tried to ban free speach will be m issed. don't think so. REDTHROUGH

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Take the blinkers off and have a long think about it.

You sound like a blue. ;

Thats's how they look at us now, Utd, as bitter as the blue-lot, and comments on here of that nature back-up them claims.

I wouldn't worry too much about him leaving anyway as we're miles behind, thirty to be precise.

Anyway, we're entitled to our opinion, as you are yours, which is fine, but I never once said I like Ferguson, in fact, I can't stand him, but I've got ultimate respect for a great manager with principles.

I'm also convinced that the Hillsborough memorial gesture from Utd was instigated by the man himself, as we all know he runs the show, which was a nice touch.

So again, I've nothing but respect.

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What happened to your aggressive performances here DaveyBootle your posts are now flagging are you a leopard with different spots?

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I agree with you davey. I hate the tosser but you've got to respect his achievements.

Red Ollie

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08 May 2013 15:23:08
Really hope if the news of Reina leaving is true we try and go all out to get one of ter stegen or Leno (the german keepers) and not Vorm or Al-habsi (even writhing his name brings me tears). German is the way to go.
Surely one of our scouts must have an eye for talent.

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Funny enough, we don't pick out squad based on nationalities

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08 May 2013 15:22:39
Hey Waro, oh wise one.

"Davey you have been softened up by the PC brigade on here my mate, f**k them! Myself personally I can't stop laughing, and Moyes taking over. it's the gift that keeps on giving!

It won't happen straight away but make no mistake, this is the begining of the end for United!

Don't let this opportunity pass you buy Davey, revel in this because that crowd from down the lancs are only to quick throw things in our faces, and the twisteds from across the park have got a double whammy, there reserve team going down the pan ( Man U ) and Moyes leaving them, so that's both of there teams winning f**k all, ha ha ha ha ha YES!

Oh yes, and were are all the mancs that normally infest this site? Sssshhhhhhhhhhhh!

Waro"

A few points:

1. I wouldn't get too excited about Moyes at United - seeing as he's got an Everton team (small club according to your lot) on a minimal budget to above Lfc in the league? Me thinks he will have better resources to work with at United!

I mean what was that you were saying about 'winning fk all' - sounds like a team a little closer to home to me :)


2. This is my 2nd post on here today, re: your final point. So shhhh ;) (how old are you by the way haha)

3. This is the beginning of the end for United? Well anything can happen in life, but our club has never been in a better financial position and we have one of the best, deepest squads in our history, with plenty of talented youngsters. So a pretty solid base for Davey to work from.

Not for one moment am I going to get cocky and say we'll carry on dominating but "the beginning of the end" seems a little dramatic! Lfc fell off the edge of a high cliff because it was run poorly from top to bottom. Not quite the same situation at United in 2013.

I do admit the next couple seasons may be interesting but you need to concentrate on overtaking Everton, Spurs and Arsenal before you start playing with the big boys!

HB

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08 May 2013 18:20:40
Ha ha, what are you chattin softlad. If your not worried and not much will change for united, why are you replying to my post to davey?

Seems to me that you like most mancs after todays news are stareing into the abyss and are worried. Ha ha ha, love it.

Enjoy the media legend that is sir david moyes, good luck trying for a top4 spot next season, youve got NO CHANCE:-D

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Sorry HB mate I stopped at (small club according to your lot) on a minimal budget to above Lfc in the league?

Even the sun shines on a dog's arse now and then mate,

your bigging up a man who has never won anything and success is finishing above us is laughable.

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Here here waro ha

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Ah Waro I agree mate - made my day when I heard fergie stepping down and the smile on my face when a manc mate told me they were getting moyes! Best day I've had in work in ages lol

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08 May 2013 14:43:12
After a long-time heard fantastic news that was waiting for years, now atleast can believe footy is all about cycles, wow what a great, great day for any Liverpool fan, couldn't ask more (^^, )

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I can, ok it's great to see the back of him but we should concentrate on Liverpool

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08 May 2013 17:01:55
how is it great it will be great when we aren't 30 odd points behind them everyone needs to move on from this it has nothing to do with us let's worry about our own issues like replacing carra et al. Tommy Irish Red

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"couldn't ask more" - not even to be higher in the league than 7th? Fair enough!

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We are twenty points behind them.

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Maybe it will be fair now anyway as we all know he had the media pundits and fa in his pocket this alone got them sixpoints a season if you think about all them times there players got away with bans and the media putting pressure on teams challenging them.
thought it funny today when eaman holmes talking about how great fergie was with all the other managers in the league that rafa was the only one he doesn't like and even gets on with wenger and mancini now yeah we know why rafa wenger in his day mancini last year scared him if for instance big sam was challenging utd and fergie for the league he would have turned on them (puppet brigade)

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08 May 2013 14:37:23
marko marin
christian erikson
mo diame
and 2 centre backs

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08 May 2013 14:55:07
Not going to happen! I don't even understand why people want diame? Or eriksen for that matter? Both are very very overrated and are easy targets for abuse by "the best fans in the world"

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No, no, no and possibly one other no!

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I love the Erikson is overrated comments. Any time a player is rated, they must be overrated - Jovetic and Ibrahimovic are over-rated I find similarly amusing.

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Diame and ericksen would be magic. any half a brain know they are quality
5 gold stars

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Eriksen overrated? Are you mad? The guy is unbelievably good. It isn't just his stats that are pretty impressive, its his entire style of play, he can conjure something out of nothing instantly and completely rip through defences. He's also incredibly young and, given the right coaching and at the right club, he could be an absolute star in a couple of years. Whichever team gets him is going to be getting a fantastic prospect.

JFT 96

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08 May 2013 14:30:35
So goodbye then SAF. Don't like you but have to admit you did well.
And it looks like hello at Utd to David Moyes - I hope you have as much success there as you have had at Everton.

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Well, he finished above Liverpool with very little money this season, and next season, with a better squad and much more money, there's a more than decent chance he will win something. Just my opinion of course, but then again, I'm not bitter. 007

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007 ha no trophies and I think it was 3 out of 10 above us was it with two of them seasons taking the limelight of you by winning champ league / league cup/ not to mention never winning at anfield yes well take that everyday get back on the dark side

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Maybe so fella, but as I say, i'm not bitter. Read the posts above and below yours and please let me know if Liverpool fans aren't. Ps, that Brendan Rodgers bloke has done a good job wherever he's been though eh? Especially at Watford and Reading, you must be delighted with what he's brought to Anfield this season? And having spent so little too. 007

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Still on are page eh haaa haaa gutted

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08 May 2013 14:30:01
I'm not sure why so many people seem keen to sign Ashley Williams. Surely if you're going to target a centre back from Swansea you would choose Chico Flores as he's the better of the two.
Personally I think there could be better available from Spain

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What a crass comment. if you think there is better in spain then how about naming some of them
fforestfach red

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Crass? My comment was not crass at all but I'll gladly give you some options
Cabral
Gonzalez
Valiente
Godin
And these are just the obvious ones
I don't expect you to reply now that you have nothing to whine about

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Why are you two arguing over these two average cb please stop ha

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08 May 2013 14:20:00
I don't know why people are laughing at moyes to united, we can't even finish above them when he's on a shoe string budget, and people think well finish above united now? let's get our own house in order first.

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08 May 2013 14:48:17
What a complete rubbish post! Iam 10000% sure its from a bluenose! Tell me did everton win medals? And Cl glory for finshing above Liverpool? What they didnt? LOL
Go do one boob, you are having your best season in like for ever and with all the off field issues we are still just a couple of points behind and are a 100000000 times a better FOOTBALL team! Westham and stoke play more attractive football than your rubbish!
Buddy you are the most delusional one to ever post here! Moyes has been at everton for 11 years! With all our troubles lateley we still have 50 trofies more than you! 5 trofies that no Everton fan will ever in their life even see their team qualify to!

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08 May 2013 15:04:36
Nope we are not saying we will finish above united next season, but its impossible for any manager past or present to fill those boots, forget moyes who is a midtable manager at best, you should be more woried about your teams as from midtable to relligation threatens now that will be the same impact at united in 2-3 years. :))

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Well said. He's a quality manager and wouldn't mind having him in charge of our side.

As for SAF he's without doubt the best manager in the world.

We haven't been able to get close (apart from once) to his side for 20 years.

Show how rubbish we have been.

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11 years of being allowed to build constantly with 0 success gets you a decent position. If people accept our own house is now in order and let them get on with the changes they need to make, we'll be there

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Weve spent many many millions more than everton, so its a fair post to be honest, for the money we've spent we should be top 4 minimum. spent more than arsenal and spurs.

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08 May 2013 18:04:21
Moyes is overrated manager, had 11 years to build but massively failed couldn't win even carling cup with teams like swansea and birmigham etc won, couldn't win at Liverpool or old toilet etc whenever everton had chance to win something always and I mean always bottled it wiuthout even facing pressure that's how a poor manager he is!

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08 May 2013 14:18:00
Carroll, Assaidi, Pacheco, Coates, Wilson, Ngoo, Pepe, Suarez, Downing will be sold in the summer.

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08 May 2013 14:16:30
I am convinced "Harry Scousser" has head-related issues. The guy posts, then contradicts his own posts in his original posts and then follows up with more posts to his own posts and replies.

He talks nonsense most of the time, makes barely comprehensible digs at everyone from BR to players and then posts complete crap about how " Ericsson won't join LFC because he is too good for us " or something along those lines, how he wants 2 more CouNtinhos etc.

I suggest checking yourself into the nearest Hospital immediately Harry.

The real AG

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Have you ever thought that he may actually have a medical condition? Maybe you should think about that before you post criticising him.

I can see why you are posting that because he can be very confusing, i'm not really sure what he wants or what he's getting at which is why I don't reply to his posts, but he's doing no harm so don't get wound up by him!

Waro

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08 May 2013 14:51:08
I agree with you the real AG! Also with Waro, but Waro harrys post gets on my nerve just because of the ammount of rubbish in them!

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I have actually thought about that Waro, but Harry has been posting for a while, and from my experience reading and conversing with Harry, it seems to me Harry is more of a guy who changes his mind every 5 minutes rather than a guy with actual issues. My post was aimed at trying to tell Harry to be more positive or atleast stick with a certain set of views rather than changing them every 5 minutes.

The real AG

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Well said Waro.

Apples '96'

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I find myself agreeing with waro. which is rare. not having a pop, nor do I normally. we just have differing opinions more often than not.

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08 May 2013 14:16:13
The person I feel sorry for is Howard Webb, hows he going to afford those extra Christmas presents now?

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Because he will be round for dinner with Saffy and David pretty soon!

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08 May 2013 14:07:05
Dede is much better than Douglas, should be the one we go for

Prestige Worldwide {Ed002's Note - Dede will not be moving to Liverpool.}

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Ed02. Dede would be an amazing signing for Liverpool. i'd it could be. possible all strings should be pulled.
Steven {Ed002's Note - Zero chance.}

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Didn't Dede moved to Cruzeiro ED002?

The real AG {Ed002's Note - Yes but there are issues. He was never and will not be moving to Liverpool.}

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I thought ed01 or 023 said it was possible to get him eds? I'm not saying your wrong because I don't have a clue my self. Why are you so sure? {Ed023's Note - It wasn't me lol}

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Dede would be great for Liverpool, Let's hope!

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08 May 2013 13:55:13
Top summer targets has to be:

David Villa - at his age he will want guaranted game time and if fit/in form he would surely play every game for LFC. Arsenal are attractive especially with Champions League but as with Sahin this is not always a prerequisite. Arsenal already have Giroud, Corzola, Gervinho, Padolski, Walcott, Chamberlain, all competeing for the front 3 attacking spots. if we get in early we may just get him.

Christian Eriksen - the Dane will have options but he is no mercenary, he will choose what's best for his development as a player therefore LFC must be high on his list. Once Agger, Suarez and Babel have let him know about the club, the fans, Rodgers man managment and how we play, I am sure we will be his prefered choice.

Diame - with a low release clause, the powerful yet techincally sound Diame will be attractive addition to many clubs. He was close to joining when Kenny was here and would surely jump at the chance to make that move now happen. He would enrich the squad and provide depth/competition for the CDM role.

Williams - replacing Carra is impossible, Williams is the a great option to fit straight into Rodgers possession style football. His confidence and ball playing ability would even perhaps be an improvement.

Ilori - the Sporting Lisbon centre back is the perfect understudy to Agger and Williams. His mature defending, pace and ball control could see if grow into a world class star.

Making way has to be: Carra (retired), Carroll, Assaidi, Pacheco, Coates, Wilson and Ngoo.

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Cant help thinking how are defence has been good apart from set pieces carroll dropping in would have made and hopefully still could a difference

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08 May 2013 13:44:44
With Chelsea and both the Manchester clubs bedding in new managers there is unlikely to be a better opportunity for clubs like Spurs and Liverpool to push on to the top 4. Rogers should use this and the proported city shortlist scenario to get FSG to use some serious cash as this might just be a key transfer window, especially if we act fast, decisively and early before the clubs seeking new managers get them in post.

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Serious cash, ok mate, its not like they have spent serious cash like over 200m since they arrived, "oh wait they have and we still can't break into the top 6"

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Serious cash as opposed to the riseable 20m budget that has been muted. And the net spend as you well know is vastly lower than 200m.

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Think he means because reported budget for upcoming transfer window is small in comparison to others think before belittling someone

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08 May 2013 13:36:41
Fowler has reportedly offered to manage non league club Macclesfield for free. Good lad Fowler, get on the ladder, work your way up, and we'll see you here in 5 years!

YNWA! (Adam)

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Just following what Edgar Davids is doing with Barnet already

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I hope not.

Quality striker in his day - but not A very bright young man.

BJH YNWA

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Edgar davids owns that club

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Well how "bright" do you think di canio is?
derryred

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I wouldn't want di Canio either, and I have no idea how bright he is - though he understands the word 'fascist', which is more than I can say for most of the 'educated' British media - and those educated by said media.

BJH YNWA

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Edgar Davids is a good manager and it's awesome watching him play for Barnet, but he's not even the best player in the squad

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Football managers don't have to be bright to be successful.

They have to understand tactics, they have to know how to motivate and they have to be versatile in implementing tactics.
Even Steve Bruce can manage a football club in the premiership. He's about as bright as elephant dung.

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08 May 2013 13:30:52
Whats the chances of rafa getting the utd job lol. Tommy Irish Red

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08 May 2013 13:14:01
Hai ed great site. and anxious for the summer.
The last game with everton showed we need some players this summer with quality.
Its a fact we have spend oads of money and other clubs are laughing at us.

Defence - yes atleast 2 players If kelly moves to RB
which will cost us somehwere near 20 mill.

Midfield. We need a DM desperate to cover Lucas.
I don't know what's BR plan with hendo and allen.

Is Hendo an ACM?. no idea, or if he plays a proper CM, that leaves allen on the bench with 18 mill blewed since gerrard is going to still play for another 2 more years.

so we need to bring an ACM, probably to compete with countinho.
A top quality ACM like erriskkon will cost us 20 mill. so forget it. we should look elsewhere.

Now the wings. downing should be shipped immediatly and should get a decent left winger attacking wise.
also I don't have a clue on borini position, is he going to play a CF or a right sided striker.?
we also might need to bring a RW or right sided striker.

these all will cost us somewhere near 40-50 mill for sure. keeping suarez with us.

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Harry, did you bang your head and forgot you have been already posting here for a while?

The real AG

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Harry if you say you have no idea read your post why are you making recommendations for who's needed and for change?

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Maybe Harry is more than one person.

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I love you, Harry. One of a kind.

Melbourne CFC

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08 May 2013 13:05:54
So Fergie retires. and Moyes to step in.
Interesting decision. But let's wait and see.
People says in past 11 years he hasn't won anything at everton. true.
lets see what is he going to win next year with UTD.
Both BR and Moyes are pretty much same.
won nothing with previous clubs and moved to abig club. BR finished 7th with 50 mill budget.
Lets see what's Moyes going to do next year.

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08 May 2013 13:18:56
just a thought, but could the speculation about rooney wanting to go to bayern, have anything to do with moyes maybe taking over at man u

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08 May 2013 13:25:05
Rodgers finished 7th with a £50m budget but lost Bellamy, Kuyt and Maxi for pittance. He also took over a very weak side who had finished 8th the season before. He was tasked to cut the wage bill on top of this.
Moyes would be takng over the reigning champions and likely have a slgihtly, if not much larger budget in terms of both fees and wages.

Its uncomparable in terms of their first seasons. Maybe after 5 years you can judge them both against eachother in terms of success. In 5 years, I think Moyes would drag United down to 4th and Rodgers could drag us back to the top 2, but that's just my opinion. let's just wait, and let it play.

YNWA! (Adam)

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Your analysis is flawed. BR came into manage a team, who had finished 7th, 7th and 8th, with a squad nowhere near UTDs. Moyes will be going into a Club that has been very very successful for many a year, already with a squad capable of Title challenge.

I would say it was a pathetic attempt at a dig at Rodgers.

The real AG

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08 May 2013 13:48:21
Mate don't you think that moyes will just be puppet and fergie will run things behind the scenes for atleast 2-3 years until moyes is completely settled and make sure things are going well for him, after all remember this is ferguson, he does things for reason this decision might be shock for fans or media but they would have been discussing and planing with moyey for few years, this is not a quick decision or hurried but very well planed to maintain united success and dominance with fergie still playing big role!

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Another pathetic attempt to discredit BR by you Harry. How can you compare a man job taking over the reigning champions with another mans job taking over the reigning league cup champions?

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Thats exactly what's going to happen, moyes the puppet but hey is that a good thing? would moyes be happy with that? I don't think so.

and I know being a Liverpool guy my thought would be always irrelevant to the blues (just as theirs). moyes isn't a trophy winning manager. he's going to let them down.

moyes regime at everton can be compaired to what hodgson did at fulham. not completely but in some way yes. its been 10 yrs at everton, and moyes has just managed an avg show. money problem yes but 10 yr is too much time not to built a successful team.

and also to the guys here comparing BR to moyes but its clear br has much more to his game then moyes does. and in 10 yrs time u never know where we would be with br. even Man United would choose br over moyes if those were the only two guys left.

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08 May 2013 13:01:01
im sick I've been saying for about 2 years that moyes will replace purplr nose when he leaves, I would have got a great price

mickey b

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Erm, where have you been for the last 7 years, that's how long people have been saying moyes will replace fergie

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08 May 2013 12:34:58
Good luck to Sir Alex in retirement. Him and Bob Paisley are the two most successful managers in the English game. Mutual respect from both sets of fans for their achievements. YNWA

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08 May 2013 12:30:41
Potential Managers Leaving at the end of the season -

Jose Mourinho
Rafa Benitez
Whiskey nose
Roberto Mancini
Carlo Ancelloti
Klopp

Potential Clubs managerless this summer -

Real Madrid
PSG
Man Utd
Man s***y
Chelsea
Everton (if Moyes goes)
Wigan (If Martinez goes)

Its going to be a fun summer?!

Is the Barcellona manager staying-on with his health problems?

Lets keep our own house in order this summer.

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Don't forget about BR to citeh

BR thinks citeh are interested in him

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I think AVB will leave for Real Madrid, so Spurs will need a new manager as well

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Nope. avb to madrid and br to city is just fake stunt.

managers only swap seats if they feel like going, I mean lack of support, lack of ambition by club management.

they don't jump of the ship if thet see a bigger one.

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08 May 2013 12:25:35
Right this is a Liverpool page so keep it short fair play owl Alex was a grate manager we all no. Sorry remember it's took four years for him to win a cup and 7 years to win the league so all you Rogers haters back of give him a chance and time!

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08 May 2013 13:09:05
thats ok saying it took him 7yrs to get it totally right but in that time he got plenty of money to buy the likes of ince pallister, he even pushed hard to get barnes beardsley so imo he was able to compete with the top teams in the league for players signatures, the question must be is brendan afforded the same backing imo no i'm not blaming fsg I know they have to spend within their restraints let's just hope there is a bigger picture that we can't see but will be told when matters r dealt with like naming rights sponsorship deals etc. Tommy Irish Red

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08 May 2013 13:16:24
Do you honestly think UTD will give a 2 year time for moyes to win something?
dude. when a club actually fails out completely. we call it as transition.

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08 May 2013 12:12:05
Would be interested to hear Ed001 and Ed023's take on today's news?

JFT 96

JP {Ed002's Note - One has gone for a swim and the other will no doubt be at school still.}

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What did you learn today Ed001? ;)

The real AG

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08 May 2013 11:58:14
The manager keeps talking about the need to sign quality attacking players, who can unlock stubborn defences. these players cost money, much more than the reported £20m we supposedly have to spend, which has led me to believe that we have more than £20m to spend, and that that figure has deliberately been fed to the media. I have a hunch that we will sign some very young up and coming talent. my hunch is that christian eriksen, christian tello, belhanda, loic remy and thomas ince will arrive. like I say it's just a hunch, but let's see if it proves to be correct.

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Coutinho didn't cost 20million

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08 May 2013 13:10:56
Neither Coutinho has solved the problems, coutinho is a ok player with fantastic future, but thinking he is a player who is going to drive us top4 next season then I'm afraid

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08 May 2013 13:19:52
I would actually take remy from the list under 7 mill the guy will be a bargain like countinho. he has already showed great pace and strength something which bellamy had when deployed on the right.

tello no chance, why should he come to Liverpool?
belhanda is a quality player. no chance of moving in summer to liverpol
Ince and errikson will end up in Spurs since AVB wanna compete lenon and Ince on the right side.

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08 May 2013 13:23:47
2 countinho type and 2 suarez type players will take us to top 4.
hazaard and mata took a chelsea to top 3 with europa league final. probably along with luiz.
none of their players performed well par this season.

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08 May 2013 13:46:27
Actually, we need pacy midfielders who can counter attack and not wait till defence is packed before we try to unlock it. This is the aspect our game that needs to be upped a hell lot in my view.

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Benitez made the difference and not the players.

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A attacking midfielder who scores goals to replace downing erikson would be great but would we get also someone to either replace or cover lucas all depends on price and a cb personally I would go out and spend 20plus mil on one who would make the difference and be here a long time like reo for united from leeds don't get many hyppias. find this better than buying two say one now who is older not as good for 8m and another for around same price for the future this for me would be enough assess till jan certainly keep us in the mix.

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08 May 2013 11:26:10
calling all edds! I've waited 20 years for ferggie to go. just don't tell me mourinhio is taking over, it would break my heart! whos in line to get the job?

pb {Ed002's Note - Try the Manchester United page.}

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Even if Jose did replace Fergie he still wouldn't be as good. He only stays for a couple years and leaves the club in the sh1t.
It'll be Moyes, once a blue, always a Manc

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08 May 2013 11:37:37
Klopp to United

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08 May 2013 11:34:23
ha all the grief I get from United fans finally there master mind has gone best news ever hopefully they crumble like we did!!!

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08 May 2013 11:16:02
Moyes to Man Utd? Di Matteo to Everton?

Have a little bet on that guys and girls.

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08 May 2013 12:26:50
Martinez to everton, moyes to mancs, mourinho to chelsea, rafa to psg, ancellotti to real madrid, my little 5-fold accumalator!

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Oneil to efc- moyes to utd- morinho to chelsea- rafa to psg -ancelotti to madrid -pellegrini to city-martinez to malaga

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08 May 2013 10:30:58
best of luck to fergie in his retirement. whatever we may think of him he is an absolute legend. and deserves all the hype that will be built up over this. but this might lead to a more level playing field with the fa etc

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08 May 2013 10:20:36
This may not be very well received, but may I give a tribute to Mr Ferguson. Took over a massive club that wasn't achieving what it should have been (sound familiar?), and, when given time, achieved constant success. It was 4 years before he won his first trophy, and 7 years before his first title.

My point is, perhaps some of us need to remember this, and understand that if we are to have long-term success, we need to give Brendan time to steer the club the way that he wants it to go.

El Pi**edolero

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08 May 2013 11:31:31
But that was different era compare to now, how many managers have gone to achieve the same like ferguson, has wenger or moyes achieved the same dispite been given the time, fergie is once a life time manager who had some luck!

Footy now is completely different, do you think owners will accept losing champions league money, sponsors money neither can attract new sponsors at the sametime day by day clubs market is going down at the sametime our sponsors are not happy with our position and the money we demand etc to just wait for rodgers to achieve champions league, I DOUBT at the end of the day they are bussiness people and won't go well when we are losing a lot of money neither will accept losing all these money only for rodgers to achieve champions league, we are in a different situation where we can't afford losing money as werner has said its impossible to run a club like Liverpool without champions league.

just imagine this season despite being rodgers first season they were very disappointed with league table and decided to decrease rodgers power and bring more people to help him that's how they are disappointed, now here your talking about owners accepting losing money just to wait for Rodgers to achieve champions league!

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"You can live without water for so many days, but you can't live a second without hope" - Brendan Rodgers

Adam

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Are we Signing hope?

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Lol - Did Rodgers really say that?

Tell him that's just plain wrong.

BJH YNWA

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Wenger has had peanuts to spend compared to ferguson and was unable to offer the wages ferguson could and hence the result is that wenger has lost his best player every season. If you ask me wenger is a much better manager than SAF. It is just the fact that the pundits are happy to slate him that you are dissing him. Think about that next time someone insults suarez.
derryred

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08 May 2013 10:11:02
As part of the managerial merrygoround now that old purple nose is finally hanging up his hair dryer - what about Moyes to OT and Rafa to Everton?

I read recently that he said himself he will definately be managing in Liverpool again!

KBL

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If Moyes goes to United, I would imagine Martinez will go to Everton.

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He didn't say that.

He said he will be going back to Liverpool at some point. Because his family are still there. He didn't say back to manage.

I hope Rafa does go to Everton though. He'd destroy them.

BJH YNWA

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08 May 2013 10:04:54
The Great Man and LFC Legend made his league Debut 50 years ago on this very day!

Congradulations to Tommy Smith

What a Player - What a Man!

In my opinion Just behind Kenny and Stevie and only just by the smallest of margins.

A true LFC Legend is Tommy the stuff of folklore our CB problem would be solved if we found another Tommy alas there are no other Kenny's Stevie's or Tommy's.

Wild Woulfe McBain

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08 May 2013 09:56:40
Apparently Howard Webb is now available on a free

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08 May 2013 11:01:32
It was obvious from the last game!

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08 May 2013 09:54:09
Lads, did anyone read the article that's floating around regarding our stadium expansion? It doesn't make good reading. It talks about the 'once in a lifetime missed opportunity' to build a new stadium. And about how we will fall further behind the elite without it. The redeveloped Anfield may well hold 60,000 people; but there will be very, very limited facilities in comparison with the likes of The Etihad, Old Trafford and City's place. There will also be no room for further expansion down the line due to space restrictions. I read recently that Man City were looking at developing a 'Manchecter City Village' around their stadium - a kind of village around the stadium - to include bars, restaurants, shops, big screens etc; this place will even have a City centre! Compared to our limited vision isn't it time we considered developing a ground share with Everton? Would the fans go for it or would it be better if both clubs rumbled around in the periphery of the big boys as seems to be the plight of both clubs now. ?

Jackzokay

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Dont see how our club is in plight by an description of the word. We are financially more stable then ever and are slowly making ourselves more secure.

Furthermore, everton couldn't afford a groundshare nor could afford to fund half the building costs.

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08 May 2013 09:38:36
It's official Old Whiskey nose goes.! Hello Mourinho.! Another mind gaming maestro to fill his slot, but don't worry Mancs Mourinho will be a glove puppet Whiskey nose will be the Rod Hull and he will be the Emu.

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08 May 2013 17:45:10
Nonsense. Mourinho would not react well to Saffy telling him what to do. Would never work!
Iggypop

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08 May 2013 09:36:36
Regardless of what we think of the team at the wrong end of the M62, I have to pay the utmost respect to Mr Ferguson.

I'm sure many Liverpool fans will be jumping for joy like bellends which makes us as bad as the rest, but I'm convinced the league will be worse off without a manager of this caliber.

I've never been concerned with threat of losing our trophy status pedestal, as the challenge from Utd was of a consequence of our down-turn and not of the dominance of Utd, so we only have ourselves to blame.

I'm sure there will be twists and turns to this story and I suspect the threat of losing Mourinho to Chelsea may be the dominating factor to the retirement, but you never know.

DaveyBootle

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Davey you have been softened up by the PC brigade on here my mate, f**k them! Myself personally I can't stop laughing, and Moyes taking over. it's the gift that keeps on giving!

It won't happen straight away but make no mistake, this is the begining of the end for United!

Don't let this opportunity pass you buy Davey, revel in this because that crowd from down the lancs are only to quick throw things in our faces, and the twisteds from across the park have got a double whammy, there reserve team going down the pan ( Man U ) and Moyes leaving them, so that's both of there teams winning f**k all, ha ha ha ha ha YES!

Oh yes, and were are all the mancs that normally infest this site? Sssshhhhhhhhhhhh!!

Waro

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Well have to agree with Waro on this one (surprisingly)
My united supporting friends are saying that their world just 'crashed' XD

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Agree with Waro. good riddance to the senile auld g*t

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Waro, if I could explain the shabite I've had over the years with them lot, toe-to-toe, verbally etc then the list goes on. Not good I know but it's the truth.

I've just replied to a post in which I stated I can't stand both Utd and Ferguson.

I can't stand Gary Neville. but he talks sense. I hated Keane. but he was a boss player. I despise Utd. but they're the biggest club since the inception of the Premier league!

One thing though, the board have stated they are after a manager with pedigree and European experience, which must rule Moyes out.

DaveyBootle

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08 May 2013 09:34:34
Just been confirmed fergie is about to retire.
It's going to get busy on here eds. Lol
David moyes is tipped to take over, shouldn't take too long to catch them up titles wise now.

MIKEY

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We have to get into The top seven first lad.

DaveyBootle

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Don't you mean top 4

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08 May 2013 09:34:17
The day football changed forever May 8th 2013

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08 May 2013 09:33:56
Howard webb to be sold in the summer now that slur fergie is gone JON96

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08 May 2013 09:10:00
Just my own opinion but I think if old Fergie retires Mourhino might be shifted in quick. Wonder if this Chelsea stuff has been a smokescreen. oooh the mystery lol!

YNWA JFT96

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Smokescreens don't happen. You want someone you go get them, you don't worry about other people

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08 May 2013 10:48:57
I doubt fegie or united will even consider a manager who is completely opossite what the club stands for, mourinho is a good manager who uses a lot of money then jumps the ship which is not how it works at united neither he respects the club or history where-ever he works, he just wants everything should be about him in media rather then club, he is destruction for academy which is very important to united and always has been, if fergie decides to leave then klopp will succeed him and take care of academy which fergie and united have worked so hard for its progress!

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It's going to be Moyes.

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Liverpool need a commanding central midfielder who can impose himself. I really like Diame, strong, good on the ball and can score goals.

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Im having sausages for tea, it was about as relevant as the last post. {Ed023's Note - I'm having sausages too :D}

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08 May 2013 08:49:16
Eds, how do we get rodgers and co to see wot we see. 2 players that I think will be perfect for us this summer as they both play tough football, good at making passes, tackles, in the air and can finish.
Wigans James mccarthy as a CM, he can play either in defence or attacking position.
Dundee's Johnny russell as attacking mid/striker.

I've seen Russell play many times and he is a younger dirk kuyt! {Ed023's Note - Your opinion is welcomed but if BR signed both those players I wouldn't be happy}

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08 May 2013 12:44:24
russell is nothing like kuyt he has a bagful of tricks and a bit of a showboater and can glide past his marker with ease, kuyt has none of these qualities he is one of the hardest working players ever to have played the game wit a heart of a lion! Russell is a good player but more suited to a team like wigan

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08 May 2013 06:55:33
Well I have finally had to admit to myself that my fears are valid. While the Home kit isn't bad, next years Away and Third kits are going to be worse than this years (and that's saying something). Who actually makes the decisions on these kits and why have they not been fired yet? I have seen numerous mock ups from fans online that play towards the club's tradition and blow all the Warrior kits out of the water.

Since LFC don't get royalties from kit sales anyway (except when purchased directly from the club) I will once again not be purchasing any Warrior kit next year and as long as they continue to embarrass our great club with these horrible kits. Nike do well with Man U and i'm sure Puma will do much better with the new Arsenal kits than Warrior has done for us. What a shame.

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Our home kits have both been very nice, our away kits next year look like they'll be very dodgy but the plain black away kit from this year is a really lovely shirt

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I agree with samsam only on the home kits being nice in terms of design. As for the new home kit, I feel the collar and sleve trims could have gone all the way around as opposed to half way. (perhaps that would affect the '96' touch on the back of the shirt?)
This seasons 'plain black' away kit I have never seen, I have however seen the black and grey star trek outfit. The one that even in the shop is covered in fluff and ready to fall apart.
i'm not going to get into my thoughts on the new away and third kits until they are confirmed but I am very concerned based on the little info we have already.
The claims that the warriors kits are taking a nod to classic kits worn in successful times is IMO rubbish, I feel most supporters would take replicas of the original kits (obviously taking into account copyright etc if that is something that is relevant?) than some poorly designed twist.

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Sam,

I would agree that Warrior have generally gotten the home kits right. However the current away kit is ruined by the grey half circles around the neck, on the lower back, and the one thigh. Warrior seem to just be trying to make something entirely different with no thought to how it actually looks.

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Tbh as long as the home kit is decent I'm happy - we wear it 70% of the time. It would be nice to have a gorgeous away kit as well but it could be worse - we could have Barca's away kit.

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08 May 2013 12:32:56
The only thing that matters is that its a winning shirt! Don't like don't buy! Simple! Just support
Y--N--W--A.
JUSTICE and PEACE
FT 9-6

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08 May 2013 06:54:54
Is there a chance Rafa will return? {Ed023's Note - Not this summer}

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No. Rafa will be the next Manchester United manager. XD

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08 May 2013 01:16:58
Boot room blarney- Hi eds, with Gerrard out the last few matches who will take his place, will Conor Coady come in or Suso, I really like Adorjan but realisticly who do you think will replace him in the team and who would you have if you could choose. {Ed023's Note - I see Henderson dropping back into midfield with Lucas and either Skrtel coming in for a 352 or Borini coming in for a 4231. Coady might get on the bench though}

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08 May 2013 12:33:47
Shelvey to start

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08 May 2013 00:21:29
Ive been looking for (without any luck) a lost of Liverpool player of the year and young playee of the year award winners I was wondering if any one has a list or know where I could find one?

Also ed do you think a summer of mignolet, alderweireld, eriksen and a striker maybe gameiro is a possibility or are any of those on our agenda?

Thanks guys {Ed001's Note - that would not be what I would expect, though we have defo looked at the first 3. I have read one scout report on Mignolet, though not a Liverpool one but another Premier League side, which would suggest he is not the kind of keeper we would be looking at. It was scathing about his distribution, when one of the main criteria Rodgers looks for in a keeper is his ability to play out from the back. Obviously our scouting team might not have seen him the same way, but I would think they would also have noted that.}

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His passing accuracy for the season is a little over 42%. That probably has something to do with Sunderland's style of play, but it certainly isn't an encouraging statistic.

For reference most possession style teams have their GKs around the 60-70% range, with Pepe being the best in the PL with a 70. 6% passing accuracy.

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Might be something to do with the fact that Mingolet seems to have been encouraged to boot it long every time he gets it and Reina has been encouraged to pass out to the defense as much as possible? Not the only factor but potentially a big one

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