Liverpool Banter Archive July 08 2016

08 Jul 2016 22:22:46
Just a quick post regarding the eds of this site

I'm not the kind of person to blindly follow everything the eds say and treat it as gospel, disagreeing with somebody else's opinion is what makes people individuals, however there's a word that a lot of posters on here need to look up, it's called respect.

The eds are people who give up there time, and work harder than I can even begin to describe, so all of us have got somewhere we can go to voice our opinions and find out information that we know will be genuine, but lately there precious time is taken up by random posters asking will we sign x y or z.

Everything they know on transfers can easily be found using the search function, please people let's all start using it so the eds have got more time to give us more informaion. Most post on here nowadays are like having kids in the car asking "are we there yet".

So thank you to all the eds for all your efforts time and patience, and come on people let's treat the eds how they deserve to be treated and let's start showing some much deserved respect.

08 Jul 2016 23:52:38
Well said Bob.

09 Jul 2016 00:33:09
Very well put. I visit this site every day to keep up on any information the eds have to give out, whether it be on signings, matches, or their own opinions on things. Without them, Macca (and square tomato on all things Joe Gomez) this website would just be an aimless, fantasist list of transfer targets and unfounded anger about anything related to the club I love. There's plenty of websites like that on the internet if that's what you're looking for, but if you're looking for a decent community and reliable information, respect the people responsible for bringing it to us.

09 Jul 2016 07:01:39
Just been a little bit sick in my mouth 👄. I'm sure the eds are more than aware how appreciated they are, I think you were just looking for a post of the day comment from ed002.

{Ed001's Note - ah Waro, you know you are just jealous because your love notes get deleted..... ;-)

09 Jul 2016 07:25:47
Oh ed001 why let everyone know😳? One day I'll get the right mixture of sickly sweet and disingenuous and you'll post one, gggrrrrrrrrr😬!

{Ed001's Note - we were trying to protect your reputation. I wouldn't want everyone to know about the flowers and chocs we get on a regular basis. They might all want to send them and I can't eat that much choc!}

09 Jul 2016 08:53:49
Your giving to much away about me here ed001, next you'll be letting slip about me standing outside your house in the rain with my night vision goggles, oops, not even you know about that one. erm got to go ed someone's knocking at my front door 😍😍😍.

{Ed001's Note - so I haven't been seeing things then!}

08 Jul 2016 21:22:44
Obviously we don't know the whole story Eds but might Sakho or the club be able to make a claim against UEFA for what seems to be a bit of a cock-up on their part?

Sakho could very well have played in the Euro final and may have helped us to win the Europa final - potential career highlights missed here.

{Ed002's Note - Of course not.}

08 Jul 2016 22:03:59
If I were in charge at the club I would think very carefully about provoking UEFA any further.
In short, keep a low profile for the next 10 years.

08 Jul 2016 22:18:29
Well i slightly disagree Ron. I don't think it should matter what's hangs over Liverpool at the minute from Uefa. If they have made a mistake then they, like anyone else should be held accountable but i assume Sakho has got off on some technicality which is off course different.

08 Jul 2016 22:19:55
Spot on Ron.

08 Jul 2016 23:00:47
I disagree Irish in some cases it's just better to draw a line under it, in this case the club handled the situation very well as did Sakho which is a contrast to other fiascos (i. e. Suarez, Evra) so I'm of the opinion let's continue with that profressional attitude and move on, I don't want it to drag on any longer and I'm sure the player or the club want the same as it's gone on long enough already. I'll agree that sometimes people need to be held accountable but let's draw a line under this one.

09 Jul 2016 06:58:16
Think Mr Sakho can count himself very lucky to be honest. Don't get me wrong I'm glad he's available for us because I rate him but what happened is the equivalent of me being arrested for something and right before being sentenced what I did being made not illegal anymore. Regardless of whether it should or shouldn't of been on the banned list, it was when he was doing it and should really know better. That said I'm glad we don't have to kick him to the curb!

{Ed001's Note - actually you are wrong, it was not illegal on the WADA list, which is the one everyone is meant to go by, hence him being let off. The issue was that UEFA had mistakenly included it on their list of banned substances, believing it to be on the WADA list. No idea how they got it wrong, but they are not known for their competence.}

09 Jul 2016 07:03:09
Hmm, further reading today seems to suggest that the substance wasn't even on the banned list, now that's a massive cock-up - if true I'd be wanting a public apology at the least so that the player doesn't spend the rest of his career with that 'drugs cheat' tag, mud sticks and all that.

09 Jul 2016 09:01:18
Don't be silly, why should UEFA be accountable for incompetence? It's not like anyone else would be in their 9-5.

09 Jul 2016 10:01:51
I'm still in favour of letting all this go but if ed001's description is accurate how on earth has it taken 2-3 months for UEFA to realise this?
Couldn't they have worked it out with perhaps 1 phone call to WADA to confirm the error and then apologised straight away?
The idea it needed a 30 day suspension and a hearing is absolutely ridiculous.

{Ed001's Note - procedures to follow mate.}

09 Jul 2016 14:06:04
Ahhhh understood. Cheers for the clear up ed01. Whole thing does seem a bit silly then!

{Ed001's Note - it needed to be cleared up, UEFA could have decided to stand by their list, but they at least admitted their mistake, which is something. Now everyone knows the WADA list is the one to follow for definite.}

08 Jul 2016 21:13:09
I have to say it was so refreshing to see the ball regularly played back to the keeper as a means of keeping possession. He likes to start with a fairly high line, whether or not he'd be comfortable doing that in the Premier League it's far too early to say, but I was very impressed with his distribution tonight.

08 Jul 2016 21:05:50
Get in Danny ings well done hard work paying off .1 up.

08 Jul 2016 20:43:02
17 year old toni gomes signs his first professional contract with Liverpool today.

08 Jul 2016 20:10:31
A good day in all for LFC. Klopp signs new deal until 2022, Sahko's case has been dismissed and is now cleared, and finally none of our players got injured during the Euros.

08 Jul 2016 22:06:24
I think we put far too much emphasis on the role of a captain these days. The captain doesn't have to be the best player or the most vocal.
In my opinion he is the manager on the pitch and therefore the most important attribute is game intelligence. I think Hendo is a good choice.

08 Jul 2016 23:47:12
I agree with your post and that Hendo is a solid captain, but I also think you are describing Ings in a few years. I think he has the potential to be an outstanding captain.

08 Jul 2016 19:57:32
Mane is looking dangerous. going to b a beast.

09 Jul 2016 00:20:08
The people who pressed disagree. Such bitter human beings. Mane was out there to impress, worked hard and found space in behind the defending line. Def going to be a beast.

08 Jul 2016 19:36:42
I'm glad that Sakho did not get changed.

08 Jul 2016 18:59:39
Hi eds,

When is Coutinho joining the pre-season? Klopp said everyone will have 3 weeks off right, its been more than 3 weeks since Brazil went out of Copa America.

{Ed002's Note - No idea.}

08 Jul 2016 19:45:15
It's all a smokescreen, you see, he's already been sold for €57 million to Everton but we don't want Dortmund to know that, otherwise they won't accept our €35 million offer for Reus, they'll want €42 million instead. That will then blow our budget apart and the deal to bring back Suarez will fall apart as Barcalona want €97 million for him and we only have €95 million in the bank and we still need a left back, who will probably be Rodriguez (the Chilwell scenario is another smokescreen, though I won't go into that now) .
Oh, Balotelli to sign a 3 year extension but on reduced wages but we pay for his haircuts.

08 Jul 2016 20:07:53
Come on Tristan that's a lie. There is now way that we will pay for Mario's haircuts as we'll just sign a barber capable of playing at left back.

08 Jul 2016 20:14:41
I think you are spot on. Eds i know you don't like to talk about money, can you still give us something to feed on.
Thanks.

08 Jul 2016 20:49:05
He was Granted additional time off by Klopp apparently. As long as he is back for the Tour of the US! (Just because I am going to 2 games lol)

08 Jul 2016 18:21:39
So Ed001 was right about the interest in Skrtel from Turkey and it is the perfect time to see Skrtel leave as he was just going to hold back the likes of Gomez.

Now with West Ham chasing after Beneteke who should have never been signed in the first place, hopefully someone will be taking Balotelli from us too.

Clear out of the players who do not fit in is of utter importance for the squad to move forward under Klopp. We cannot afford to have any passengers.

08 Jul 2016 18:25:41
Balotelli will not be easy to sell or get rid of at any cost. The others should have no problem fetching decent prices.
For a change, other clubs actually seem willing to pay decent fees for our players so its a start.

08 Jul 2016 18:37:49
Balotelli will go. Maybe not at the price LFC want but there is no way we can have him disrupting the squad. I am sure Klopp has already told him he has no future at Anfield.

Balotelli's agent is also working overtime to find him a new home. LFC will have to bit the bullet. The sale of Ibe will ease some of that pain.

08 Jul 2016 19:07:31
I think the club will have to just accept taking a hit on Balotelli.

08 Jul 2016 18:07:24
Hi Ed's

What the update on Joe Gomez?
Haven't seen any of his training photos.

Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - Square Tomato is the best person to answer that question, being perfectly honest.}

08 Jul 2016
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08 Jul 2016 17:09:50
Jut a question for any of the Eds (and anybody else) .

Where do you stand on people coming back to sport following a drug ban. With sakho still awaiting his punishment and the whole Jon Jones debacle this week in ufc it just got me thinking.

Should sportsmen/ women be allowed back in all circumstances (redemption and such like), limited circumstances or a blanket ban. I know there is no simple answer but I just wanted to know what you think it should be. I do appreciate that the answer will depend on the nature of the breach by the sportsman/ woman and on the person answering the question and what there moral compass is.

I always think that if you have ever benefitted in certain ways, and i particularly think about muscle growth and the like, how you can ever compete clean again? You will always still keep that advantage you obtained illegally. That's only one specific example but I just think it's an interesting subject.

Thoughts?

08 Jul 2016 17:22:52
We live in a society where we advocate people having the chance to learn from their mistakes and give them the opportunity to prove it. Whilst individuals may think otherwise, that is societies choice as a whole. An absolute ban on drug cheats is ridiculous, certainly for first offences at least.

08 Jul 2016 17:33:25
Imagine if you lost your job due to taking drugs, and then after serving your time, got told you were now banned from that industry.

Footballers and celebrities are seen as these emotionless, inhuman creatures made from invulnerable steel; Incapable of just making a genuine mistake or error of judgement.

There are crimes that are unforgivable. But drugs? Theft? Petty things like that. The whole point of punishment is to reform an individual. If you make their life impossible to live by banning them from work, all you do is criminalise them.

There's the old role model argument, but surely seeing a guy make a mistake and then turn his life around and climb back to the top also makes them a great role model for young kids who have made a mistake. It is proof you can atone and still have a life after your error.

I've made mistakes in the past. Luckily I don't have to pay for them for the rest of my working life. Repeat offenders though, fair enough. They should be banned as all they show kids is that you get unlimited chances.

08 Jul 2016 18:20:52
For me you missed their point, Wassa-lfcs opinion is based on banned players still having a physical advantage due to a person having taking performance enhancing substances.

To my knowledge someone stops taking a substance they stop receiving the benefits and often have negative side effects which can hinder regular progression. Now some of the benefits can remain for a short period. But banning them, forcing them to not be competiting at the highest level and removing their team training sessions will do more to hurt their physical progression than any of these side effects could ever help. I would love to read up on this though, good post Wassa-lfc.

08 Jul 2016 18:22:34
Basically MK your saying it's alright to cheat till you get caught then repent an all is ok? It wasn't a mistake! He / they should not take anything without seeing the club doctor etc beforehand. Why should us an the club suffer? Would you forgive your missus if she cheated? It's still a dagger to the heart just the same.

08 Jul 2016 18:35:44
MK, if registered professionals, such as Doctors, nurses etc were caught taking drugs, or doing anything particularly illegal, they'd be struck off, and unable to work in their profession again. Now, i'm not saying PED's are the same as snorting coke off a strippers ass, but there are professions out there where, if you screw up, you're done.

I meant this to be more in-depth, but my kids are mauling me as I type, but i'm sure my point is in there somewhere!

08 Jul 2016 18:41:40
Sorry redNI but the effects of anabolic steroids do remain much longer than the period of taking them. e. g. Justin Gatlin.

08 Jul 2016 18:43:27
Slowdog, not patronising this, but have you ever competed competitively?

Not nice when your opponent is stronger only to realise they're juiced up to their eyeballs.

Seen it and been around it for years now.

Ban the fabucking lot of them for life I say.

08 Jul 2016 19:51:57
Funnily enough Ron that was the person I had in mind when I made that comment!

I just think it was one of those subjects that as it divides opinion it was worth a discussion.

09 Jul 2016 07:16:04
Good idea, one for the to do list, sniff Charlie off stripers ass cheers mate I'm off.

08 Jul 2016 16:24:45
Good afternoon Eds! Any truth in the rumour that a work permit application has been made for Talisca Anderson? Or is this just more twitter nonsense?

{Ed002's Note - I have no way of knowing.}

08 Jul 2016 17:02:04
Ed002 is it true that my missus ate all the Snickers Bars in the cupboards whilst I was at work today?

The dog is blaming her and she is blaming the dog!

08 Jul 2016 17:10:10
Isnt he a Striker? can't be any truth in it what so ever. I Take it you no nothing of any interest ed?

{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

08 Jul 2016 17:37:36
Lfc forever, the ed answered the question in the original post and you asked again. So did you think the answer would change in the space of 10 mins. Its why ed002 gives such short shrift to you in particular but i give it to you u just don't give up.

08 Jul 2016 15:27:57
Eds, have Liverpool ever been looking at Ricardo Rodriguez, I think he would be a great addition and solve or left back problem. hell Robbie Brady could even do a job for us!

{Ed002's Note - No.}

08 Jul 2016 14:46:43
Is it just me or does anyone else notice that Ibe's struggles began when he was recalled half way through his loan at Derby last season? I think we should have allowed him to complete his loan spell since he was playing quite well. Recalling him certainly halted his progress imo. Anyway 15m£ is a good deal for us. Onwards and upwards.

Cheers.

08 Jul 2016 16:09:55
Last season he was fine, that's why we we all got so excited. Your thinly veiled effort to pin Ibe's failure to progress on Rodgers is noted and ignored.

08 Jul 2016 17:14:12
Muscatred, wow just wow😒😒😒.

08 Jul 2016 17:19:42
To be fair mustcat, I do think Rodgers is partially responsible.

Not for the loan recall. But for how he used him.

He constantly put Ibe at wing back, and I think it made Ibe more cautious. He stopped running at people because he didn't want to lose the ball without the security of a full back behind him.

I think he has struggled to get out of that frame of mind as he rarely ever runs at people and takes risks now, at least compared to how much he did it in the youth team.

In Rodgers defence, it really benefitted Sterling. He massively improved his defensive contribution by playing at wing back for a while.

Ultimately Ibe was his own worst enemy. He had impeccable attitude and he had great ability, but he just didn't have the confidence to play his natural game here. Perhaps he wanted it too much and the pressure weighed him down. As a Liverpool fan he was probably just so desperate not to make mistakes that he was afraid to take the risks required to be a top forward player.

In some ways, Rodgers and Klopp are at fault there. I've played an equal amount of time under both managers, and it was there job to manage the pressure on him. All we can do is wish him luck in the future. If every young player showed the dedication and humility he does, football would be a better game for it. Not many people know, but Ibe didn't even have an agent for quite some time. He just let his mum and dad manage his career. He doesn't want to suck money out of his clubs and look to get a move every 6 months to fill his bank account. He just wants to play football. I commend him for that.

08 Jul 2016 17:20:17
Is that you Brenda how's the tan :)

08 Jul 2016 17:52:49
For God sake, come on. He's what, 20 something. It's not unnatural to be inconsistent at that age. If he's got the right mentality he'll get better over time.
BR by the way was a fairly decent trainer and coach. Pathetic tactician and game changer.

Ibe is still a kid. Wish him luck if he leaves and move on already.

-Krishna.

08 Jul 2016 17:52:49
For God sake, come on. He's what, 20 something. It's not unnatural to be inconsistent at that age. If he's got the right mentality he'll get better over time.
BR by the way was a fairly decent trainer and coach. Pathetic tactician and game changer.

Ibe is still a kid. Wish him luck if he leaves and move on already.

-Krishna.

08 Jul 2016 14:22:50
Is Grujic actually being considered for a starting place this season? If so where? I can't see how he would be infront of can and hendo? Just wondering never seen him even play before but find it hard to believe he's being promised first team football after coming from a league that isn't that competitive and only being 20?

08 Jul 2016 15:55:11
Being promised first team Football and a starting position are very different things. I expect he will be used to rest Can or Hendo in cup games or perhaps as a substitute or in a 4-3-3 from time to time.

08 Jul 2016 16:48:19
If he doesn't start he will lose his work permit which equals £5.5m down the drain.
He will start some games.

08 Jul 2016 16:52:59
Zimbo, he was granted the work permit under the understanding that he would be a regular. It surprised me as well, but it likes like he will be a big part of the first team.

As Ed002 has already alluded to, he will lose his work permit if we have lied.

08 Jul 2016 14:17:45
Hi Eds (probably 1 for Ed001, as I know Ed002 doesn't like giving opinion on individual people much),

With Klopp signing a new long term deal at Liverpool it reminded me of an article I read the other day that said that the Premier League now has 5 of the top 6 managers in the world, Guardiola, Klopp, Mourinho, Wenger and Conte. presumably the 6th they were talking about was Simeone but i'm not sure?

We all know about Mourinho and Wenger, but i'd love to hear your opinions on Conte and moreso on Guardiola.

For me Guardiola has been given incredible squads that are far and above the quality of the other teams in his league and has quite obviously been successful because of that. But is he anything special?

Would love to hear some other views as well. And whether you think there are any other managers that should fit into the same bracket.

Cheers all, have a great day.

{Ed001's Note - I would say Ancelotti and Simeone have a right to be included in the top managers in the world list.

Difficult to judge Guardiola, he is a good coach, but is he a great one? It is hard to say as the quality of the players at his disposal has always been better than the rest of the league. It has to be said though, he really should have won more in terms of European trophies, which does let his record down. These next few seasons with City will be the first chance to really judge him.

Conte I do not particularly rate, not in terms of a long term manager. He is a short term firefighter, to step in patch things up and get them to a steady place. He has not shown any real tactical acumen, his Juve side struggled in Europe, where he was repeatedly shown up as lacking when up against better coaches. Again, these next few years are his real test, but he has to show a real improvement if he is to be a success. Personally I see him as nothing more than a steadying hand.}

08 Jul 2016 14:50:06
I wouldent call getting to a champions league final struggling personally.

08 Jul 2016 15:21:02
Simeone is the best manager in the world.
Continuously competing at the very top of European football with a club the size of Athletico, just imagine if he had the money of a Super Club!
For example if he went to Madrid. Scary.

08 Jul 2016 15:21:04
G-flex, it was Allegri that got them to the final not Conte.

08 Jul 2016 15:39:41
Juve reached the UCL final under Allegri, not Conte. I don't remember Juve making it past the knockouts in the UCL under Conte.

{Ed001's Note - exactly, Allegri took basically the same side to the final, while Conte did nothing in Europe but get found out.}

08 Jul 2016 16:17:02
Simeone for me, done a great job with Atletico given their position.

Mourinho has a great record but I think his invincible cloak has been tarnished, Wenger still has failed to deliver at the top level, Guardiola I think may or may not have it. we're about to find out, Conte I don't know enough about.

Of all of them, with the budget and rebuilding job we have, I'd really be happiest with Klopp, Simeone or maybe Emery, but of these Klopp is the most fun!

08 Jul 2016 17:23:12
I'm really happy we have Klopp.

I don't know too much about Conte but from having a little read of what eds said and if he struggled a bit in Italy i think he will find it a bit tough in England.

I rate Ancelotti a lot as well as Simeone both top top managers.

Mourinho has achieved a lot but i can't see him being any better than before at UTD, the only 2 players i like are DeGea and i think rashford has got a lot of talent and looks like he has a decent attitude. But he's not what Hazard was the season Chelsea won it so. I also think ibra could go 50/ 50 might work but he might struggle.

Guardiola is interesting as he always has had a team of the best players really, especially in Germany their isn't a club who's got the finances of BM. Where as at city quite a lot of the players i would say are declining a little bit. Though if De bryne and silva and fit and playing well and can get aguero playing more i think he will have a decent first season.

08 Jul 2016 17:57:35
Surprised you didn't add Bielsa to that list, Ed001. Probably because it was EPL, was it?

- Krishna.

08 Jul 2016 17:57:35
Surprised you didn't add Bielsa to that list, Ed001. Probably because it was EPL, was it?

- Krishna.

09 Jul 2016 15:23:13
G-Flex, it was Allegri who got Juve to the CL final, not Conte. In fact, Allegri, has a much better record overall in Europe than Conte had. Ed is right, Conte struggled big time in Europe and even didn`t get out of the group stage.

08 Jul 2016 12:52:20
Edds are they going to televise Trameres game on supersport this evening?

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea what supersport even is, sorry.}

08 Jul 2016 13:20:56
No they aren't. I suggest you follow the "Liverpool Supporters Club Gauteng" on Facebook if you have an account. They regularly provide updates such as these.

08 Jul 2016 13:37:45
Try the official website, I think it's on there.

08 Jul 2016 13:55:04
It's on LFC TV.

08 Jul 2016 14:04:07
our sports channel here in RSA . i highly doubt it man.

08 Jul 2016 15:20:48
Checked the local TV guid, not showing.

08 Jul 2016 16:34:47
It's on the official site and station but of course ya need to sign up for that.

08 Jul 2016 12:27:51
It's hard to speculate all the reasons Klopp has for letting Ibe potentially go, and personally I'd have given him more time. The thing though is that it does present an opportunity now for Ryan Kent. Ojo will undoubtedly fill the Ibe role of last season, and now potentially Kent will be where Ojo was and get a few cameos as a means to introduce him into first team football. Whether he makes it or not nobody knows, but I hope Kent will get a chance or two now to show what he can do.

08 Jul 2016 13:14:31
Ryan, is that you?

08 Jul 2016 13:32:27
Ibe needs game time and playing all the time, Eddie Howe can help him to develop hopefully. 15mil really hard to turn down and it's great from Liverpool to put a buy back clause in.

08 Jul 2016 12:06:41
I am absolutely delighted we have given Klopp a longer contract. He is a superb manager and one I truly believe in and back fully. Have not had that feeling since Benitez early years.

Absolutely looking forward to this season and future seasons to come as we are on the up. It's not all about money, it's about talent and team work.

I think we have all the ingredients for great times ahead and some superb young talent in the squad.

Enjoying my last day on the beach in Spain, this news has made my day even better. ☀️😎❤️🔴.

08 Jul 2016 11:00:04
Question for ed001 if he is around.

With klopp extending his contract I was wondering if you knew the reasons behind his extension? He has only signed his first contract at the start of the season at we only finished 8th. Don't get me wrong I am pleased just wondering why you think the club though it was necessary with him only just signing?

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea sorry.}

08 Jul 2016 11:09:19
There is definitely a reason behind it aswell it's nothing to do with what fsg statement says. You don't give a manager another contract after 8 months in charge and an 8th place finish.

Yes klopp has done great things and I'm happy he's our manager but this is very strange.

08 Jul 2016 11:15:28
Memory/ nightmare of Brendan Rodgers maybe? : )

08 Jul 2016 11:21:33
I speculated yesterday that it ties in with FSG's ownership plans over the next few years - all in on Klopp in the hope of some success whilst keeping the finances under control, raise the club's profile and worth, and then a sell-off?
I'm not sure what FSG have gained over their tenure at Liverpool, but Klopp offers the potential for a profit on return otherwise it's more of the same for FSG - watching the super clubs disappear further over the horizon.

08 Jul 2016 11:39:32
And what is it you would like rhino? What's wrong with controlling the budget and hoping for success? I think you play to much fifa this is the real world and klopp And his team are the best people for the job in FSGs eyes and most of the supporters to. So they have tied him down and are creating stability something we have lacked for years.

08 Jul 2016 11:42:52
He had 2 years left on his contract. If he was a player this wouldn't even be a discussion. If we had left it this summer, then next summer he'd have just a year left and our bargaining position is severely hampered.

I think it's all a lot of talk over relatively nothing, personally.

08 Jul 2016 11:44:02
I know let's go for Roy he is available.
Some people are never happy.
I.

08 Jul 2016 11:54:40
Why give him a short one in the first place then mk? He hasn't proved anything yet. Your well off imo.

08 Jul 2016 12:04:55
Lucky, not sure how you got to that conclusion, but let me clarify my position if may. What I meant is that LFC management need only to remember Rodgers time to realise how good Klopp has been. I am fan of the Kloppster, and some of the best games (emotionally) I have seen in recent memory has been under his management, and things are looking on the postive.

08 Jul 2016 12:41:26
They only done it to keep the fans happy to what's going to happen in the transfer window. Hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am.

08 Jul 2016 12:42:12
Maybe it has to do with the fact that Klopp wanted peace of mind that he'd be here for the long run. He likes projects and he spent 7 years at Mainz, 7 years at Dortmund and if he stays till 2022 which is how long the new contract is for, then he'd have spent close to 7 years with us too!

08 Jul 2016 10:39:37
Domlfc86, I did not know a mistake (gaffe) could be rewarded with a 6-year contract ☺.

08 Jul 2016 12:03:38
LH9 there i didn't see any mistake anywhere. The best coach in the world deserves to be at the best club.

08 Jul 2016 15:59:33
I am surprised no one got what I meant. The guy in his post, instead of writing 'gaffer' wrote 'gaffe' (mistake) . That's why I said how a mistake can be rewarded with a 6-year contract.

08 Jul 2016 10:10:32
Hi Ed 01, where did you think did it went all wrong for Ibe who you and we all thought would have bigger future than Sterling?

Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - just happens sometimes, things didn't go right in a few games, he picked up knocks, confidence dipped and he lost his way a little.}

08 Jul 2016 10:17:57
Ed001 In your opinion is this the right decision?

{Ed001's Note - no, I think there are a lot of other players I would rather see leave, but I understand it.}

08 Jul 2016 10:25:42
Wouldn't a loan to a premium club have been better?

08 Jul 2016 11:19:50
Does this change anything in respect of markovic? Still think he'll go but he might get chances in pre season now as there doesn't seem to be any deal lined up for him at the moment.

{Ed001's Note - no, he is still available.}

08 Jul 2016 11:46:53
Edd001 is there any interest elsewhere for milner or do you expect him to stay mate?

{Ed001's Note - little interest mate, wages are a sticking point.}

08 Jul 2016 12:04:08
I actually completely spaced on brannagan posting the above, I think he is a very good player which renders what I was saying a bit moot, maybe a loan for brannagan then as I don't see a major amount of game time for him unless milner or lalanna are also to leave.

08 Jul 2016 12:01:10
I suppose lalanna and milner will be certainties to stay then, as I think one or both of these may leave at the end of the season wouldn't mind the club looking at a deal for a young attacking player and leaving them on loan at a club to develop for a year similar to origi, even though his loan probably didn't do wonders for him.
Is coric an attacking player or does he play deeper, I know zilch about him bar varying reports on here but a deal for a player like that and leaving them to play football for a year would seem like good forward thinking for me, especially if we also have the possibility of losing coutinho over the next 12 months.

08 Jul 2016 17:28:15
I'm a bit gutted about Jordan. I really liked him and i know he didn't have the best season but at the same time you can see the potential he has and he's still so young. But at the same time if he's going to be playing week in week out at Bournemouth and wasn't going to be at pool i think it probably is the right move, it looks like his confidence is pretty low so just going being a first team starter should get him back on track :) I hope he rips it up there!

09 Jul 2016 15:37:58
I wouldn't mind one leaving this season if Lallana left this season and miner the next because Mane is better on the right than both of them while at CM, they aren`t good enuff.

08 Jul 2016 10:07:29
If Dahoud really is an option.

Would anyone else prefer to give Stewart the chance?

Unless I'm way off the mark and they're entirely different players?

Cheers.

08 Jul 2016 10:59:43
For Stewart's sake I hope he gets chances to play this season. But at the current rate of players acquisition he's chances look slim. He's a good tidy player but he doesn't have the attributes that Dahoud has/ seem to have, tenacity.

08 Jul 2016 11:37:24
Can people stop saying give this player a chance there 2 different football players.

08 Jul 2016 12:21:51
Apologies Redmen. You clearly know your stuff about what Dahoud and Stewart have to offer in a team.

Please enlighten us and fill us in on the pair.

I was under the impression that Stewart was a strong ball playing defensively minded midfielder. How does Dahoud compare?

08 Jul 2016 10:06:17
Klopp signs a new deal.

08 Jul 2016 10:02:24
Jurgen klopp signs a new long term contract at Liverpool!

08 Jul 2016 09:18:42
Good morning folks. Any update on the sakho inquest? I believe it was on Thursday but haven't heard anything. Thanks in advance.

08 Jul 2016 09:59:02
I believe it will take some time to review and come to a decision. Thursday was only his hearing and his plea as far as I understand it. When the ruling is released it will be hard to miss I'd imagine.

08 Jul 2016 10:06:08
We won't find out until at least after next week.

08 Jul 2016 10:07:58
Cheers red herring 👍.

08 Jul 2016 07:46:51
happy Friday everyone! And more importantly it's match day! Looking forward to seeing the reds in action again! Who are you guys looking forward to watch today?

08 Jul 2016 08:36:46
Ings and Mane.

08 Jul 2016 09:32:10
Has to be Gomes and Steward for me. Flanno and the new keeper guy are worth keeping an eye on. Read some where the Grujic might have to miss this 1 with his work permit issue only being resolved now. Should be fun for our young players aswel.

07 Jul 2016 20:14:13
Eds, do any of you know who are the most highly rated academy players at Liverpool at the moment?

{Ed001's Note - I seem to answer this question every other week! It would help if I knew exactly what you mean by academy though. Do you include players brought in at 16 or so, who have very little real connection to the academy, or purely players that have been produced by the academy?}

08 Jul 2016 08:35:29
Brooks lennon highly thought of?

{Ed001's Note - by some, not all though.}

08 Jul 2016 09:40:37
There are pretty big changes to our youth ranks at the moment. This coming season will be a big measure of which of the lads might make it and which won't. I'm excited about the new EFL trophy. Any idea when the draw is? Charlton, Sheff United and Leyton Orient would be fun. :)

08 Jul 2016 10:24:05
Players in the U21 and U18s.

07 Jul 2016 21:40:45
Hi Eds.
Just looking at LFCs retained players list for 16/ 17 and noticed Jack Dunns name is on it
Does this mean Klopp rates him?

I think he is a special player and hooes he gets a chance this year.

Tks for the great site.

{Ed001's Note - he wants to give him a chance. You are right it is a surprise as injuries had looked to have completely derailed his career.}

08 Jul 2016 04:51:35
Dunn is recovering from an injury and last season was his most difficult by all means. I suspect if he stays, he will play for the U21s though I see little chance of him breaking into the first team as it stands especially coming back from such a injury ravaged season.

08 Jul 2016 00:17:42
Evening Eds and Reds,

I've just returned from an extremely tiring trip which to Lyon which began late on Tuesday night. I've had a long car journey to reflect on the Wales game. I don't slag my players off, club or country, however I will admit when I think someone is not good enough.

For all those on this crusade to keep Joe Allen, please stop. The lad is just not good enough for Liverpool if we want to progress. As I'm someone who lives less than 30 mins from where wee Joe was born, not many will want him to be a success at Anfield more than me.

However, when it comes to the big games, against more quality opposition, he just isn't good enough. He is worse than what we have? Not massively, but we should be looking to improve the squad, not 'do O.K'

He's still a hero in my eyes from a Welsh point of view, as they all are, but as a Liverpool fan, he has to go if there's good offers in for him.

Time to rest, ready for the long trip up to Tranmere tomorrow.

Together Stronger, YNWA.

08 Jul 2016 02:44:16
Good post mate. He's good and could get better. And he's had enough time to impress at Liverpool. But he's lack of pace, touch, and game awareness short sell his efforts. So not suitable for the current setup at LFC.

08 Jul 2016 07:35:10
He has had a great Euros and shown that he is good enough to stay at LFC.

He is a good squad player for us and whilst I don't think he will ever be first choice he can make an impact off the bench.

For Wales he got a little rash in the first 15 mins of games and whilst he didn't have the best of games against Portugal he was playing with a yellow card for 80 mins.

I say we keep Joe for another season. We don't have the depth in the squad. Pending any good offers for him!

08 Jul 2016 09:16:20
Too many midfield players at the moment. And the younger players need game time, ideally 2 players per position and youngsters coming in is more than enough.

And Joe should be playing at his age.

08 Jul 2016 09:30:31
I just don't see why Joe is getting the stick for Wales going out to Portugal.

Yes he mis-placed some passes.
Yes he got caught on the ball.

However, he kept on wanting the ball and kept on trying to make things happen.

Ledley was anonymous in terms of linking play, as was Andy King. Ramsey's movement wasnt available and James Collins cannot pass a ball out from defence.

Against good opposition you cannot have 1 midfield player trying to make it happen.

Yes, he's had better games but the whole team performance was flat and this is not down to Joe.

07 Jul 2016 22:01:28
Just wondering if anyone could answer this, would Wycombe be entitled to any ibe money?

08 Jul 2016 03:10:56
Yeah, if the contract between Liverpool and Wycombe stupilated that.

{Ed001's Note - it is irrelevant, all the clubs which contributed to his youth development get a share of 5% of any transfer fees for the player.}