Liverpool Banter Archive July 08 2014

 

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08 Jul 2014 22:59:11
Thank god Coutinho wasn't picked for the world cup squad its going to take those players along time to get over that match.

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Might take them just as long to get out of the country itself!.

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08 Jul 2014 22:59:14
We need to recruit the Chelsea management team that can negotiate 50m for Luiz!

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Brilliant!.

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They also paid 50mil for Torres!

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08 Jul 2014 22:49:46
David Luis for 50 million, whoops.

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Worth 2x lovren's?

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Maybe we can get £60m for Skrtel ;o)

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09 Jul 2014 09:23:48
I think some of you need to give the guy a break. It was very refreshing to see a player playing with so much passion for his country and such a desire to do so well. I, for one, hope he has a successful career and he's got a new fan in me.

And I think you need to realise that at PSG, he'll be playing alongside Silva, so regardless of the price tag, his performance level will be what's it's been at at the world cup prior to yesterdays game. Listen, players work well with players that suit them. Football is a team game, the manager finds a balance to get the best of of each player and ultimately what's best for the team. Don't be suprised to see Luiz look fantastic alongside Silva next season. The 50m price tag will soon disappear from peoples minds.

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08 Jul 2014 22:47:38
Germany will need to tighten that defence up in the final.

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08 Jul 2014 22:37:03
Sanchez to sign for Arsenal tomorrow

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08 Jul 2014 22:31:43
Is anybody worried for next season? We have sold our 31 goal striker (Hes going I know, don't start) and failed to get Sanches( Not LFC fault, don't start) Yes I will still have faith in the players and BR but I just don't see us building on last year. But Never mind as long as we beat the Mancs!YNWA

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Let's pretend for a moment we had just sold Sturridge for roughly 3x what we paid for him and picked up Lallana, Lambert, Can, perhaps Markovic and Lovren, etc.

Would you still be 'worried'? I suspect not even though Sturridge was every bit as important as Suarez.

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Sturridge is good but not as important, Suarez worked harder as well as picking up more goals and assists

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Agree to disagree I guess. Sturridge was massively important otherwise I have no idea how those first games would have went nor many of the others where he scored the winning goal or late equalizers.

I really don't see that there was miles between them and I'm not sure why anyone would be seemingly okay with losing one but consider losing the other a disaster.

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I'm not saying Sturridge is not important, of course he is and his role will grow next season but can he step up to Suarez' level and if he does who will back him up, the way he backed up Suarez. Its no good having one 30 goal striker and the next highest with 10, rather two with 20 etc.

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So are you saying you would have preferred Suarez and Sturridge got 25 goals each last season?

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If you only play one up top and improve the team defensively, we might score less but also concede less as well. A 1 or 2 to nil game gives us 3 points same as a 6-3 thriller.

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09 Jul 2014 09:12:17
No I only want a duo who share the bulk of the goals. Even a trio maybe but not just one man.
RDL You have a point there but if Studge gets injured, who is going to lead the line across our 4 competitions although I have heard weird rumours about Higuain?

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08 Jul 2014 22:29:27
Fair play to Chelsea managing to sell David Luiz for £40 odd million. He really is one of the worst defenders in the history of the game.
His ludicrous image does not do his brainless defending justice.

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He is too unpredictable to be a defender, hence Jose playing him cdm more often than not. He cannot be trusted as we just saw. He should do ok in the french league though!

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Not half as bad as the image on your picture Ken. The season starts soon lad you better get down the gym.

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You love it really Alfie, you just want to see me in the lucky pants. Xx

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What wrecks my head is how even 6-0 down he still insists on doing little flicks over attackers heads riskily. he does it no matter the score and he is simply a gobsh!

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08 Jul 2014 22:28:17
ssn admitting there's some hefty bets being placed on higuain coming to Liverpool

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To make u go on and waste money! Smart?

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Lol what that reina & lucas plus £30m

Would rather buy Balotelli for £25m-£30m

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08 Jul 2014 22:25:16
sorry for earlier post Eds, friend meant to say Luiz not suarez to PSg for £45 million

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08 Jul 2014 22:16:28
Edds love the work keep it up. some hefty bets being placed on higuain moving to Liverpool this summer, ssn betting themselves have admitted this I no earlier this week you covered and said Liverpool had shown no interest in him.

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08 Jul 2014 22:11:41
Is there actually any truth in Liverpool enquiring about Yaya Toure?!
Seen it on a few sites but it seems very unlikely.

Thanks

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08 Jul 2014 22:05:15
Liverpool are interested in Higuain, any deal will see Lucas & Reina included plus around £20 Million.

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Doubt Napoli are too enthusiastic about selling.

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So that would value Higuain at 28m? And they paid how much for him?

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How do you work out that would value Higuain at just £28M.

Liverpool value Reina at £5M & Lucas at £10M so that takes it to £35M GBP for Higuain.

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£28m? Lucas is worth £12m alone in my opinion and Reina should fetch at least £5m. I'd say that values Higuain at at least £37m. Dunno how much they paid for him but he's not worth much more than that!

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I like you EMS but the reality is we will probably have to let Reina move on a free due to his wages and unfortunately injuries have limited the fee anyone will pay for Lucas. Tell me who will pay £12m for Lucas? Simply won't happen. 10m euros at best (roughly what we paid for him so that's fine). If I'm wrong I will hold my hand up my hands but teams know we are desperate to get big earners who aren't starters off our wage bill because we've already added 3 players (soon to be 4) and only agreed the sale of one player. The Suarez fee is already spent and his salary spread across the new boys. Post Markovich we are effectively neutral in spend terms. Of course the club will invest after securing CL but we still need to raise some funds from sales to buy Lovren (20m), Moreno (18m), Origi (10m) and possibly another attacker (although this could be funded by the sale of Borini). If we can't sell defenders it makes Bertrand more likely than Moreno. I think we will sell Agger but for a fee closer to a Bertrand than a Moreno!

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An Italian team. Lucas is perfect for Italian football. He is composed, technically sound, passes the ball well, rarely loses possession, tactically aware and has excellent positional play. If we can't get £12m, there is no point in selling him. If Reina goes for free we are a joke. I hope you are wrong, but admit that you could very well be right!

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08 Jul 2014 21:57:45
Let's just use all our money to get hummels, muller and kroos. Also toure haha.

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08 Jul 2014 21:39:40
Hi eds.
Do you see muller staying at bayern this summer? Would he be someone that Liverpool would be interested in?

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{Ed002's Note - Has he played well tonight?}

08 Jul 2014 22:24:10
Ed. He has been sensational. along with Khadiera.
But Let me admit. Philip Lahm. What a footballer. such humble. He is the best in the lot.

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08 Jul 2014 21:20:27
hi eds

im sorry if you have answered this befor but have we had a look at hummels and do you think he would be a better buy than lovren, thanks for any answer

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{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

08 Jul 2014 21:15:39
Hi Ed's,
Which teams are interested in Thomas Muller? I rate him highly and have backed him for top scorer from the start of the WorldCup
Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - There is no interest from Liverpool - try the European page.}

08 Jul 2014 20:49:20
Hi Ed great job mate loving the website .

Just one question are we any closure singing Markovic?

Thanks again ED

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{Ed002's Note - Measured how?}

With a sundial Ed

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08 Jul 2014 21:59:41
My friend just told me Suarez has signed for PSG £45 million? Has he gone mad?

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You don't go mad overnight(usually).
Has he been licking more bus Windows lately?

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I guess you mean your mate as Suarez was already mad

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08 Jul 2014 21:47:46
Lucas and Coutinho hey who needs them

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08 Jul 2014 21:56:09
This is what happens when you don't have players with 'inho' in the team haha! Big Phil has been found out. Well played Germany, amazing stuff, albeit rather embarrassing. Can we sign Khedira please?

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Lucas would be better up front than Fred.

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My granny would be better up front than Fred and she's been dead 20 years.

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My pick that would destroy them lot(overrated brazilians) from last night.

Pato
Robinho, Coutinho, Lucas
Leiva, Fernando
Sandro/Luis, Miranda, Dede, Danilo
Jefferson

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08 Jul 2014 21:37:35
Who thinks we should make an offer for toure just to annoy man city? Seriously, I do think we should sometimes make public offers for the players of our rivals. stir up the hornets nest so to speak. Other example offer 10 million for lukaku, then sit back and enjoy the fallout.

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09 Jul 2014 04:42:57
And how would this benefit Liverpool, other than waste everyone's time?

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08 Jul 2014 21:34:55
Ze Germans

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Don't mention the ***

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08 Jul 2014 21:33:24
Eds fellow reds, the Germans are struggling then

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08 Jul 2014 21:05:44
last game I seen a grasshopper on rodriguez anyone seen the caterpillar on gustavos lip

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08 Jul 2014 21:02:37
is it true we let Lucas leave on loan? I really can't see the logic in here. Lucas is a really good player when he is fully fit

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Why loan we could get some cash for him also

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Can't loan him surely, 1 year older 1 year less on contract = worth less.

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We let Pepe go on loan so we could get a decent price for him now he's back, no one wants him for reasonable money and he's prepared to let his contract run out by the looks of things.
Unless it's a world star like Luis or Torres it's seems we can't get value for any of our players

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We shouldn't pay people so much then. We are one of the richest 20 clubs in the world so when we sell to one richer we can make money. When we sell to a poorer team (most deals) we almost have to give players away. However saving money on wages still has a positive effect on the finances. If we don't bang Pepe out on loan ( or let him go on a free) we are committed to 6m salary for someone who won't play. If he goes to Napoli and we pay half his salary we are 3m better off. Multiply this by several players and it starts to add up. Remember we were losing 1m per week. We will get £63m for Suarez but are seemingly committed to around £100m of signings. Each with a new salary commitment. I posted in teams that we have 29 first team squad players currently which will need to be down to 25 for the new season so if we can't sell we need to loan out and save at least part of the wages of a number of players. It doesn't mean LFC are numpties. It's just how it works.

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Excuse my maths - Pepe's salary between 4.5-5m.

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08 Jul 2014 20:56:27
News just in from my source, Liverpool are dropping their interest in Lovren and will look to sign Manuel Neuer as a sweeper instead.

More to follow.

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We could sign Fred as a sweeper. The car park is a mess.

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08 Jul 2014 20:46:29
Hi

Ed001 and Ed002

Loving the new avtar add on
It good to see your always improving the site
Best place f

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08 Jul 2014 20:38:06
Read 3 different articles today saying Liverpool are eyeing Yaya Toure, and that he is "Open to Liverpool Move". Don't get me wrong, I love yaya as a player, but Surely this is bull-ology?

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08 Jul 2014 20:23:18
Just looked up Higuain in the archives, and one of the eds said that Liverpool would have the vacancy and finances to buy him if they were to sell Suarez. One of the eds also said that Napoli offered Higuain to Barca at one stage, but now with Barca and Arsenal signing strikers, there would be little competition.

Higuain seems like the perfect signing. The only missing piece is Liverpool's interest, but I hope this changes. With Rafa interested in Agger, Skrtel, Reina and Lucas, (all players we are seemingly open to bids for), maybe there is the possibility of offering them in exchange, plus cash of course. I know player exchange deals are incredibly rare, but this sees to make sense. Signing Higuain would be a great signing and would make up for missing out on Sanchez. In fact, I think Higuain is the better player! Maybe I'm being too wishful, but I hope we show some interest and bid for him.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has been spending the money it has - to buy the players lined up would likely remove most of the money coming in. It is critical that the club start paying down the debt it has with the stadium work coming up.}

True Ed. I've been really surprised with how much we're spending, even with the Suarez deal. But seeing as we were willing to pay a large fee for Sanchez, does that not mean we may still be willing to pay a lot for a forward/winger? Or was Markovic/Origi the alternatives?

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{Ed002's Note - No idea - the club is building debt right now - they need to be reducing it. They are stepping in to a high risk situation.}

C'mon ed let's not start talking £££££ it confuses us mortals.

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08 Jul 2014 22:23:06
Having spent the last few years trying to reduce the debt, why the sudden approach which is seeing an increase in debt? Surely after last season they haven't got so excited that they have lost all business sense?

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{Ed002's Note - The debt has been increasing.}

08 Jul 2014 20:06:36
Hi Eds, I am interested surely with all the new signings, Liverpool are still way too short up front. Suarez is probably currently the best striker in the world, if you discount Ronaldo and Messi as out and out strikers. Has Rodgers got a trick up his sleeve? To not be disappointed surely a Benzema or Ibra replacement has to be in place?

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{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

08 Jul 2014 20:06:34
Eds, there is a rumour doing the rounds that LFC have offered Lucas Leiva and Pep Reina to Napoli in exchange for Gonzola Higuain. Any truth to this?

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{Ed002's Note - I imagine everyone in Napoli will be laughing then.}

09 Jul 2014 06:39:23
Not everyone; Rafa would think that a good deal. He doesn't laugh either.

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08 Jul 2014 19:59:30
No thanks. The Arsenal physio has had numerous overtime pay cheques working on Walcott's fragile body. With Ox and Ramsey also they need 2 sets of midfielders just to put a side out.
So Sanchez has chosen them. Granted, they do qualify for Champions League every season but hardly ever look remotely close to winning it. His contract offer would have been similar to ours. Other than the " London" factor what exactly makes them a bigger gun than us?
When he sees the Kop in full roar next year he may just regret his choice. But ultimately, it is his choice. Not everyone is a Liverpool fan.

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08 Jul 2014 19:58:15
Hi Eds

2 things.

I've read a report tonight that we've bid 23.5m for Hummels? I don't believe it myself but so we have any interest in him please?

Yay a Toure? There is no chance what so ever, right?

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{Ed002's Note - If you read it somewhere it is bound to be true.}

I can back that rumour up as a bloke down the pub said his mate heard the same thing.

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08 Jul 2014 19:56:31
Saurez
A good return on our investment, an accident waiting to happen with messi, only one winner there.
Our ball retention will improve immeasurably, pace and hold up play from lambert will provide even more options.
We've missed a leader ala Carra who will tell full backs to cover and sit and get us in the right starting position because the keeper doesn't dictate so hopefully Lovren is that man.
A great improvement on last years squad with more to come, oh and the England players came home early, the World Cup will have an effect.

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08 Jul 2014 19:51:11
How many of the current new signings do they think would have been made if Suarez wasn't going to be sold? Let's assume that Marokic and Origi have been signed.

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Can, Lallana, Lambert

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08 Jul 2014 19:24:32
Hy Eds
I know u dnt discuss money here I just want to know all the deals that lfc completed and will soon complete likes of origi and markovic. Will be funnded by suarez money or lfc will sign more players with suarez money.
Any update on CF MF CB LBI really hope lfc sign quality players to replace suarez.
Thanx
ur response will b much appreciated

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{Ed002's Note - It is not really like that.}

08 Jul 2014 19:05:17
Hi des is their any interest in from us in morata , I no it was rumored that arsenal were intrested in him but now there on the verge of getting Sanchez think it's possible we could be a likely destination if he does leave for game time, either on loan or buy?

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{Ed002's Note - No interest at this time.}

08 Jul 2014 19:40:46
Hi eds.
What do u think the hold up is in the LB department?
I'm hoping we're waiting on the Suarez sale to free up some cash for Moreno, I think he's the best available LB right now.

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08 Jul 2014 19:36:15
Eds fellow reds, just for fun the picture of me and Ross Barkley last week at Manchester airport heading for sharm el shriek, as some people didn't believe me .

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God, that Barkley is ugly

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08 Jul 2014 19:33:46
In an ideal world and we bought markovic moreno and lovren would be best window in years heres hoping. I don't see us buying snother striker unless borini is sold I expect us to just have sturridge up top and lambert borini and youngster replacing him. Spain should 4 yrs ago u don't need out and out striker to win world cup.

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08 Jul 2014 19:22:29
With "Financial Fair Play" issues can Barcelona afford to spend £60+ (without selling some big players). Other than Fabregas (replaced by Rakatic) and Sanchez, who else is likely to leave?

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{Ed002's Note - They are selling to buy.}

08 Jul 2014 19:21:11
Sorry to go over old ground guys but tried search engine and couldn't find a definitive answer.
Was Alberto's move to Malaga a permanent deal or a loan?
Ynwa

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Season long loan

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09 Jul 2014 08:43:35
02 Jun 2014 18:37:21
Luis Alberto will join Malaga on loan for 12 months.


ChiefScout


1.) Is that right Ed?

Dezmondo

{Ed002's Note - There is indeed interest from Malaga but, as far as I know, no agreement yet.}

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08 Jul 2014 18:56:05
Markovic to have medical tomorrow and deal should be wrapped up by tomorrow night as fee and personal terms have been agreed I am told.

Origi deal close just a few more details to be cleared up before it can be confirmed. It is more than likely he will return to Lille for the up-coming season.

No other deals that are close to completion at the moment. Loveren deal being held up because of the fee Southampton are asking for and Rodgers and the recruitment team are discussing possible targets to replace Suarez. Targets being looked at are ( Remy, Huntelaar, Jackson Martinez)


Possible outs are Lucas, I'm told he is close to a switch to Serie A with Napoli & Inter Milan both to of declared interest. Rodgers is keen to offload Daniel Agger but knows he will struggle to get the fee he is after for the player due to recent injury troubles he has had.

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08 Jul 2014 22:03:35
Hope your right about markovic dude.

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08 Jul 2014 18:51:27
Reading some of the post re life without Suarez. I really believe because of the loss of let's face it a great individual player LFC will come through this a much stronger team. Really impressed with the signings so far and the probable addition on Lazar Markovic. Lots of pace and flair being added and Lovren not to far away as well, will mean we are a much better balanced squad than last year.

Still some more business to be done obviously another striker and a left back. Really exciting times ahead for the Redmen and again I think we will catch teams by surprise thinking we are a weaker outfit because we don't have Suarez. The goals will be shared out next season from all areas 0f the pitch and we will be much tighter at the back. I have no fears for the new season and can't wait to see who comes through the door at Anfield next. Good luck Luis thanks for memories but you won't be missed.

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08 Jul 2014 18:45:11
The BBC are reporting the Yaya Touré could be heading our way? I'm pretty clueless when it comes to transfers but this sounds a little too good to be true.
Is this once again 'lazy journalism'? Does anyone know if there is any realistic interest since it looks almost certain that he would like to leave. I'm just asking out of curiosity as I stated I'm pretty clueless at this stuff.
Thanks in advance! 😎

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08 Jul 2014 18:44:12
i see many here are woried about how many goals will we score because of ls leaving, as far as i'm concerned we could score as little as 38 as long as we don't concede any :)

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08 Jul 2014 18:43:09
Yaya toure has made a transfer request with city which as been turned down. Apparently he's interested in a move to Liverpool or arsenal. Maybe kolo might persuade him to come to us
Cheers

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Let's hope he doesn't mind a 80% wage reduction then

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08 Jul 2014 18:15:53
All this stuff about us being the new spurs is rubbish. We have a really good core of a squad. Spurs added how many players from different leagues? Did they buy anyone from this league. You can't just add that many foreign players and expect them to gel. We have lallana lambert can and two that possibly come in are lovren and bertrand both played in the league and three of them in the same team. I am jot saying thwy are going to just click straight away but its different. We are also preparing for europe we are building a squad not 11 strangers. Sorry about that rant but all these moaners get to me a bit.

Another thing is that I feel sorry for those responsible for transfers remember in january when everyone went nut because we didn't pay the asking price? Now that we have payed the asking price everyone is moaning. There is just no pleasing some people.

Eds on a different note, do you think suso is available because teixara is rated higher than suso?

P.S love the site. that's my rant over

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{Ed002's Note - Search function for Suso.}

Sorry eds I usually always use it, I know you get a lot of the same questions all the time. Hope you and the fam are swell

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08 Jul 2014 17:50:15
I'll no doubt get slated for my ignorance and ill be the first to admit I don't know a great deal about transfer dealings but in general if a player is sold to another club without actively putting a transfer request in, i'm of the understanding he is entitled to loyalty bonuses etc.

What happens in the case of clauses where the "selling" club have no option to accept if a clause is activated, does the player in question still receive loyalty bonuses etc?

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{Ed002's Note - (a) He gets 5% of the transfer fee. (b) He gets what is stated in the contract.}

08 Jul 2014 17:25:28
eds, have Liverpool lined up any replacements for suarez or are we going to stick with sturridge and use wider players?

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{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

08 Jul 2014 16:26:01
Hey eds, do you still expect us to splash the cash for a big name which we were promised at the start of the window?

Thanks, great site

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea who promised what.}

08 Jul 2014 18:36:21
Theo Walcott? I think he'd be perfect at Liverpool. Walcott Ramsey Sanchez Carzola Chamberlain Ozil Giroud. I think Arsenal will come very very close this year. Not everyone can play though and I can see Liverpool letting go of Aspas Borini and Definitely a few more. Maybe we could tempt them with an offer he'd be a better choice than what we're reportedly looking at IMO.

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I said this to my brother yesterday. He would be a good option to have.

Red Rum

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08 Jul 2014 19:22:32
I did say this a week back, With Sanchez they would be winning the title.

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Cazorla wants out; atletico is interested.

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Yep; Arsenal building a brilliant squad - dare I say could be able to challedge the league. Although they sold a lot of stars over the years and people criticising them prioritising the top four every season . They are attracting quality players coming in; and that what we have to do. Keep on finishing in top 4 so not only attract the financial income but make the club appealing to players.

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Injury probe and would be over priced.

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I'd be gutted to lose Theo and very much doubt we will, he wants to play down the middle where personally I think he'd be fantastic.
In a year or so I think he might be available if we don't give him a chance to play there

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He lacks the quality!

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08 Jul 2014 20:58:46
Theo walcott isn't that good just a sprinter with football boots we have better In sterling and Ibe plus he's always injured.

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Not worried about Arsenal.
As soon as the weather turns, Arsenal bottle it.
They should buy more skandos.

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Yeh the injurys are my only doubt, I disagree about the quality I think he's easily Arsenals most deadly and influential player despite the millions spent on Ozil ect.
He'd be great replacement for Suarez IMO, guaranteed goal threat without a doubt

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09 Jul 2014 06:34:53
You also said similar things about Spurs last season Harry.

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08 Jul 2014 18:32:48
Gutted we're not going to get Alexis Sanchez he would have been a great player for us in my opinion what's frustrating is we have finally made it back into the champions league and it looks like we can't compete with the big guns in Europe and our league it's going to be difficult to keep in the top 4 next season really hope BR gets the signings right because a lot of the players we have bought or been linked with haven't played at the highest level.

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We tried he choose not to come pal

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08 Jul 2014 20:36:01
You know we finished 2nd last season and no player has left yet, apart from Suarez (not confirmed). We are going to be fine.

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Have faith, all will come good

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I haven't given up on top 4 yet especially as it's over a month until we play our FIRST game.

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Tj I bet that's what utd fans thought when moyes took over.

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08 Jul 2014 18:19:25
Hi eds
You know a while back they got Macca fowler rob jones in as coaches

Did they consider john barnes as a skills coach?

Love to see him passing on some of his skills to sterling and ibe
Cheers

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08 Jul 2014 13:20:35
LFC have submitted an enquiry for Loic Remy.

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Be great if true, he would score for fun with us.

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08 Jul 2014 19:02:34
How do you submit an enquiry?!

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I believe Ian Ayre submits enquiries by throwing bricks with messages on them through the windows of Club's owners.

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08 Jul 2014 18:26:37
On the BBC Sport Facebook page it says the following;

Unhappy Manchester City FC midfielder Yaya Toure could be set for a move to Liverpool FC, Chelsea Football Club or PSG - Paris Saint-Germain.

Fantasy stuff, surely .

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08 Jul 2014 16:56:42
Just a quick one ed do you think lambert is hanging on for the number 7 shirt and do you think he's good enough to wear it considering some of the greats that have done it proud in the past

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{Ed001's Note - it is just a number.}

I'd give Sterling the number 7 and Lambert the number 9 when Aspas is sold.

Red Rum

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08 Jul 2014 18:09:10
Liverpool look set to finally capture Croatian target Dejan Lovren, as Southampton have set their sights on Everton target Bruno Ecuele Manga as a replacement.

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08 Jul 2014 20:43:28
Lazy journos! Saints will be looking to sign a CB if Lovren stays, or two if he leaves. (Perhaps that just might be why they will not let him go easily, or cheaply?) DYOR and you will be less disappointed.

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08 Jul 2014 17:59:14
So question. Can anyone think of any Liverpool players that once sold went on to enjoy better success / continued excellence?


I can really only think of Xabi Alonso.
Maybe arbeloa?

At a stretch Anelka. though he was only on loan.

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FYI I haven't included mascherano as though he did go Barca IMO he has gone from being one of the best defensive midfielders to well? A semi decent centre half?

Anyone think of any?

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Steve McManaman.

Fernando Torres - won nothing at LFC but won champions league at Chelsea.

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Mcmanaman

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Steve Mcmanaman. I suppose most of the responses will relate to Premier League LFC players.

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Michael Owen.? ;-)

I'll get my coat!

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Jonjo is doing OK and Meireles perhaps.

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08 Jul 2014 18:30:20
Aquilani, even when nobody considered him as a real LFC player. perhaps Shelvey

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Better success? Torres, Arbeloa, Alonso, Mascherano, Owen. Success being based on Trophies won.
Better performance? Alonso, Shelvey, Paletta, Voronin, Babel.

You make a good point though. Most players who leave generally do worse for themselves/trophies won. Some get big money moves and pick up medals because of the success of a team they never really fit into (oh the Glory!) and the only players who really improve (Alonso aside) are youth players or players so bad they can't get worse!

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Brad Friedel

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Peter Beardsley still had a decent scoring record after he left

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AHOY - maybe Kevin Sheedy and Brad Freidel or possibly Rigobert Song.

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Steve Mac I'll agree with, but Torres? Il have what ever you smoking, must be good to get that high!

He's not been anywhere close to the level he performed at at Liverpool

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I should of said performance/level wise, anyone can go sit on a bench/play poorly/average and pick up medals.

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08 Jul 2014 20:47:57
Owen I don't believe went on for better things he was bit part in the mancs title I wouldn't consider Owen in this list . Brad friedle still going strong.

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08 Jul 2014 17:55:01
Arsenal have Sanchez, The only reason is because Arsenal are a London based club, So if Liverpool was in London then I have no doubt he'll join us.
(I say this jokingly as I lick my wounds)

Plus, I've been near the emirates and the area is pretty bad, Rubbish everywhereeee 😭

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Well Arsenal are years ahead with respect to stadium, finances and CL consistency. Location an advantage too if you like that sort of thing.

I think if we are in the CL next season and play anything like most of the football we played last season, getting big name players will get much easier.

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MM, strangely enough we've been blaming lack of Champions League as the reason for not get players up to now. Now we have CL and it's still not enough.
Are we sure it's not just down to money, let's be honest here, most footballers seem to put the almighty dollar/ pound/ euro ahead of all else.

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08 Jul 2014 17:53:30
Anyone else think that Henderson could easily get 20 goals this season and be similar to Ramsey? The runs he made all throughout last season and the chances he had and sometimes didn't get that he should have had could have lead to a lot of goals for him. If he gets a couple early on I think he could get a lorry load!

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I just made a conservative guess of 5 on a post below. I'm hoping for 10-12 though for the exact reason you quote though. He tries placing his shots too much when he's running onto the ball. He needs to just put his laces through it. That's just confidence though. I agree though, he could hit double figures next season. Maybe not 20 but easily 10 if he plays well.

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Hope he adds goals as his improvement last season was stunning so hopefully onwards and upwards after all his hard work.

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08 Jul 2014 17:42:51
So many people doubting our ability without Suarez in the team,
Personally, I think we will be better because we will be more of a 'team' rather than '10guys and Suarez' if you know what I mean.
It seemed like last season everyone looked for Suarez first.
I enjoyed watching 'us' play more when he was banned because I was seeing great team performances whereas when he came back, a lot of the time I only enjoyed the things he done.
I also think Studge will be better without him. they 2 got pissed off with each other a lot.

I ain't worried one bit

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My thoughts exactly.

Not much chemistry between Suarez and Sturridge, tbh. They covered up for it with their individual excellence.

If Lambert, Lallana and Sturridge hit it off, we will make up most of the 25-30 goals Suarez would have scored next season.

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Suarez also gave the ball away 60 times last year. Notice how we conceded a lot less when he was banned? 1-0's etc, still grabbing the three points.

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Think without Suarez there will be more of a balance to the team being able to play two out and out wingers and three midfielders.

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To be fair when suarez played he played for the team it was never 10 players & Suarez.

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Yes we were that unbalanced we only finished second, this season we should p*ss the league by Christmas.

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08 Jul 2014 17:36:41
I was just thinking of where the goals are going to come from next season.

Would you guys be happy with say up to 35/50 goals from a mix of Lallana, Lambert, Sterling, Borini (if he stays)

For example-

Lallana 12 goals
Lambert 8 goals
Borini 5 goals
Sterling 10/15 goals

Am I being unrealistic lol?

Add Sturridge, Gerrard and maybe and hopefully goals from Can and say Henderson.

I know it's not as easy as just predicting what players will finish with what amount of goals but I was wondering what you all thought?

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08 Jul 2014 18:05:00
Huntelaar 15 goals.

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Unrealistic to expect 12 goals from Lallana

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Conservative:
Sturridge 20
Lallana 10
Sterling 10
Borini 10
Lambert 10
Markovic 5
Hendo 5
Coutinho 5
Gerrard 5

Thats a very conservative 80 goals next season. I'd expect at least another 10 from defenders/youngsters. We will not struggle for goals next season even remotely. We just need to focus on not conceding as many.

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For me i'd say

Lallana 10-15 goals
Lambert 10-15 goals
Borini 5-10 goals
Sterling 10-15 goals
Sturridge 20-30 goals
Gerrard 10-15 goals
Coutinho 5-10 goals
Markovic 5-10 goals
Henderson & rest of Midfield 10 goals
All of the defence 5-10 goals

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Danny s -20-25
Lambo- 10-15
Borini-8-10
Sterling-10-15
Markovic if signed-5-8
Coutinho-5-8
Lallana-5-8
Hendo-5-8
Gerrard-5-8
Can-5-8

There's 80 goals if you take the lesser option plus add in 10 to 15 from all the defenders an your not to far off 100 as you said it's all just guess work I think the main thing this year will be not to concede as many as I think we will be grand for goals.

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I'm talking all competitions btw lads. I don't expect much more than 80 total in the league. I just hope we only concede about 30 to offset the less goals scored. It depends on our home form though. If we rip opposition teams to shreds at Anfield once again then who knows?

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08 Jul 2014 17:36:25
Cool Feature ED033. Me likey

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I like it too. Hope it does not get abused ;)

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Love the idea of the avatar, Eds, however, only negative is that as we post in text lines, it does mean fewer posts can fit on the page as the avatar adds 3-4 rows to the signature line.

Although, with the negative posts flying around at the mo, I guess that's no bad thing!

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Great feature

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Mm the return, what's the score with the logo? Don't like seeing it every 2 mins

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Al tap on it and you can enlarge it!
You will chuckle at what it says mate😉

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08 Jul 2014 17:27:38
am I the only 1 to use themselves as there avatar pic? lol

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08 Jul 2014 18:14:22
Mines of myself :)

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No mate, I've used my picture too

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And me mate ;)

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08 Jul 2014 19:17:11
Love the pic Ken ;)

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Cheers AG.

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08 Jul 2014 17:22:38
Love the avatar idea. I've uploaded a pic, just posting this to see if it's all working eds.

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{Ed001's Note - it is on the other site mate, http://www.liverpool-banter.co.uk/ is where the avatars have been introduced.}

It works here too ed? What's your avatar guna be pal?

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{Ed001's Note - oh ok, never realised he would get round to placing it on all the sites so quickly. No idea mate, not had a chance to decide yet.}

08 Jul 2014 17:13:58
hi eds and reds

about our team without suarez, I think the young players are very good, sterling will add more goals to his game as should henderson, my main worry is the defence, we let in so many goals it cost us the prem, if BR could get some very good defenders across the back then i'm sure we could challange again, I've said in the past that we will struggle without suarez and we could go backwards because of what he brought on the pitch with him, but I've been thinking and after a conversation with some fellow reds it got me thinking, we won't have to score that many goals per game if we are keeping clean sheets, Manchester United won the prem so many time by winning a lot of games 1 - 0, so to me its very im[portant that rodgers sorts the defence out loveren is a leader, but we have struggled for so many years with our left backs, we should pay the price clubs are asking for a very good or quality left back, who has plenty of experience johnson should go or be dropped I would sell him for a million if there was no offers for him, emre can looks a good player and could be a solid def - mid, I know he can play as a left back or a CB but a solid left back should be our priority we have so many attackers, if we do get a left back who is solid then we should have a good go again at the prem

sorry about the long post but it just makes sense to me

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08 Jul 2014 17:13:33
Markovic reminds me of berbatov but with pace and a work ethic. I like him, will he be a superstar? Only time will tell but he will bring added value to the first 11. I however still think we should be targeting a 20 goal striker but I know money is tight and we can't be spending much more especially as we have not even targeted the area of most need which is our defence. Ultimately I will be happy with whoever we bring in and hopefully we will have another epic season and win something. Peace.

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08 Jul 2014 17:38:46
I think it is the hair that reminds him of Berbatov. Markovic reminds me of James Rodriguez strangely.

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He is more of Yossi Benayoun build to me. Not even as good. But since he is 20 so he has the so called 'potential'

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08 Jul 2014 17:13:31
Eds fellow reds, just read that Phil tomo said LFC will cope without Suarez. Is this the same Phil tomo that on live radio said LFC had Sanchez in the bag (done deal ) . IMO we will struggle this season big time another spurs for me .

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So third place on 81 points then? Awesome that's good enough for me :) 1 place lower and 3 pts less; after all, we're going to do a 'spurs'.

Get a clue mate. Bale scored winning goals in big games. Suarez scores hattricks in thrashings. Shoe horning him and sturridge into the sane team also destroyed the teams balance. Next year we'll score less, but we will concede less and keep the ball better. Stop with the hero worshipping. We made Suarez great, not the other way round. It's Sturridge/Borini's turn now. We make stars. Hasta la vista Luis!

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Maybe we could have "Star Factory" as our tag line at the re-vamped anfield? Better than Theatre of Screams.

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I want Suarez out more than anyone, but spending money on mediocre players is no good . Utd arsenal and spurs will be better next term .and when you lose 31 goals and 16 assists from someone who missed first 5 games .thats a big gap .i don't see Borini, aspas or lambert as a first team player so we only have sturridge .

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Well I hope you will apologise to the players if they prove you wrong ;)

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Thomo is a complete goose anyway why on earth people believed him in the first place is beyond me.

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08 Jul 2014 17:12:57
Is it true ronaldinho could be coming to the premier league? I'd take um just because I love him but doubt it would ever happen. but are prem club's interested? I'd love to see him play in the prem anyway?

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Yeah regardless of who he plays for if he came to the perm i'd be stoked.

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08 Jul 2014 17:10:47
Something not transfer related.
Go on youtube, search for "Hey Luis Don´t Bite Me (An Ode To Mr Suarez)"

Sing this song next time we face FCB.
Or maybe change the lyrics in "I just can´t get enough" to "I just have had enough"

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08 Jul 2014 16:23:57
Hi Eds. First time poster, great job with the site by the way.

The Daily Express saying Liverpool is a likely option for an apparently unhappy Yaya Toure cannot be true surely?

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{Ed001's Note - if only it was true!}

I'd take Yaya in a heart beat. It'd mean pushing Lallana out wide but my god would it be a good team.
Lallana Sturridge Sterling
Yaya Gerrard Hendo
Bertrand Sakho Lovren Flanno
Mingolet
Or we could go to a diamond and just put Yaya or Sterling up front!

But yeah, back to earth haha! Kolo, get on the phone lad!

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Yaya toure? He would more than compensate for the loss if Suarez. If only kolo could persuade him to join. and us make a bid for him of course ha ha

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08 Jul 2014 17:01:13
Do you expect us to show interest in Vorm once he's back from World Cup? I mean as back up to Migs.

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Why would Vorm come to be back up?

Sorry for the rant but it annoys the hell out of me when posters repeatedly post about x, y, z keeper coming in as a backup. The Eds posted a few months back a very sensible post (I know, rare huh? ;-P) saying that GK is the one position that does not need an 'as good as' backup as they so rarely are needed. Yes, if Migs got an injury, fair enough, but how many times have we lost a GK through injury?!

GKs who are No1 for their current teams just aren't going to move to another club to sit on the bench, st least not in exceptional circumstances.

If we really feel that Brad Jones cannot cope for the handful of games he may be required to play every season, we should either blood our youngsters in cup competitions, or buy a very experienced backup who is getting to an age where they won't be expecting to play every week. I was gutted when we missed out on Friedel as he would fit the bill to a tee. However, even he wanted to go somewhere where he had more of a chance of getting more regular games (at the time he joined Spurs, from memory, Lloris hadn't yet arrived and Gomes was an accident waiting to happen. ) Who remembers our most famous (well in my memory anyway!), long term backup in Mike Hooper who spent 8 years as understudy to Brucie during which time he played a total of 51 games!

Sorry. Rant over.

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He's over 30, Swansea are going nowhere and they signed Fabianski from Arsenal - do you think he left Arsenal just to be back up at Swansea?

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08 Jul 2014 16:58:15
Ed033, The avatar part is just brilliant.
I got one. I am not sure, If I could post in my whole life again.

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Come on H, I'll show you mine if you show me yours

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08 Jul 2014 16:33:19
I think we should bid for jovetic it's not like city really need him they didn't really play him we offer good money and he can become the next world class star in the making for Rodgers to make

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08 Jul 2014 16:23:59
Dzeko boarded a plane to Italy from Manchester, talk of 21m bid from Fiorentina, if he's looking for a change would anyone else fancy him as an additional front man?

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08 Jul 2014 17:40:43
Not for me, we already have a similar player in Lambert. I rather a creative player if we want a another forward after Markovic and Origi.

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08 Jul 2014 16:17:40
Regarding Ashley Cole, never had time for him as a person whatsoever and that continues but hats off to him for taking only £37k a week salary * a reduction of £110k a week on his chelsea contract) to sign for Roma for 2 years.

Yes I accept his bonuses will be huge and his signing on fee maybe £3m BUT at that salary range and bonuses to boot Liverpool should maybe have made a move and solved their LB problem for a couple of years while the youngsters gained experience

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08 Jul 2014 16:56:38
I completely agree with you a free transfer under 40,000 aweek for a couple of years with that much experience.for me it's a no brainer

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No, they shouldn't have. Spend more money and settle it for five years to a decade. There are too many good options at LB to buy in Moreno, Rojo, Rodriguez, even Bertrand.

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Someone forward this to Pepe Reina!

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Unfortunately, Pepe still has a contract in existence. I doubt Ashley would've left his £100k+/week contract at Chelsea to move on those terms to Roma.

I reckon his agent still cast around for a similar salary, but he couldn't find it in a league that Cole was happy in.

I do agree with the OP that at that level, without knowing add ons etc, he would've been a good bet for us. The risk with what Amerigo has proposed is that none of the ones he has listed, except Bertrand, have PL experience and I doubt they will want to understudy Enrique whilst they learn. I would, however, support Bertrand coming in as being solid enough, with competition from Enrique and Smith.

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08 Jul 2014 16:17:06
It's a bit of a joke the way Barca don't seem to have the funds to buy Suarez as Balague claims they need the sale if Alexis first

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08 Jul 2014 16:11:13
Im hearing a lot about Yaya Toure putting Liverpool on red alert? he would be happy to move to Liverpool? any legs to this story?

if Kolo stays could we see Yaya?

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In a nutshell, No.

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08 Jul 2014 16:53:33
I don't see us paying someone £250k a week and I don't see Yaya taking a pay cut.

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No chance and don't want him. Any player that has a hissy fit over the club not acknowledging his birthday I would stay way clear of.

We have just got rid of one whiny problem in Suarez why do you want another one. Admittadley not the same actions by the players but still. The club would need to start a birthday club

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Regardless of transfer fee do you really think we are in a position to responsibly spend over 10m a year on a single player?

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08 Jul 2014 17:25:39
Poppycock would be a polite way of describing that idea.

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You don't seriously believe that birthday thing do you? Lol

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08 Jul 2014 15:55:23
All is agreeing that sturidge could be the main man upfront. Just curious to know how would the new signings respond to his selfishness. As we all know he can be a bit selfish and hope he can improve in that dept. Times dragging for the season to start.

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He's no more selfish than any other striker and arguably less so than Suarez. Wish people would stop with the selfish nonsense.

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He's not selfish. You're living in the past. He had 7 BPL assists. I hope he feels like being selfish next season, as we're certainly going to need him to improve on last year's phenomenal performance to replicate the team form.

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He was definitely our most selfish player last year. I watched every single minute of our games and can assure you he did't pass when he should off far more than any other player. I often wondered if Rodgers had took him aside and spoke to him about it because it was obvious and got worse as the year went on.

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7 assists means your not selfish? or does it mean he could've had double or triple those assists but instead tried to get a goal for himself?
I like him a lot and his greediness is the only thing that bothers me about him(oh and the utter b******* he spouts about god).
He definitely got less selfish when he first arrived but slowly it is creeping back up and if you can't see it your in denial.

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I think we all watched every single minute. I just happen to disagree. Could he have passed a few times but didn't? Sure. Suarez could have as well, as could Henderson, Sterling and the rest. It's part of the game and you can't always see everything nearly so easily on the pitch.

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That's what strikers do they back themselves to score Danny s isn't anywhere near as selfish as Suarez an he bagged 31 goals last year. There were times when he made the wrong choices the Everton game at home springs to mind after he missed the pen for the hat trick you could tell his head went an he was he'll bent on getting his hat trick but every player can have that happen Stevie vs Chelsea at home he shot every time the ball came to him as he was so desperate to makeup for the error.

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08 Jul 2014 13:15:50
Hey ed01, sorry to bother you, but you mentioned earlier that HUntelaar has alternatives, do you know some of the potential targets? Personally, I would prefer to see more of Borini, as I think he suits our style better than Huntelaar (who is still a good player).

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{Ed001's Note - off the top of my head, no, other than one option being to buy no out and out striker and let Borini be the back up, and concentrate on getting a wide forward only.}

Hey ed, is it possible we will take two wide forwards (Marcovic and A.N.Other), since Lambert, Sturridge and Borini (plus Origi next year) should be sufficient for the striker position?

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{Ed002's Note - I would doubt it.}

08 Jul 2014 15:50:34
{Ed033's Note - Posters can now add an Avatar image to their posts on the Liverpool Banter site by logging in and clicking on the Edit Account button, then upload an image using the Avatar Upload section

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Nice touch Ed033!

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Great feature!

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08 Jul 2014 17:29:35
On it. :)

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08 Jul 2014 17:42:51
Anyway the background to each posters avatar be less long Ed003? Right now it just leaves a lot of empty space.

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{Ed001's Note - it won't do in the future, as there will be something on the other side of their name, when that feature is ready......}

Brilliant.

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Ahh jesus 001! As if the suspense of the transfer window wasn't enough!

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{Ed001's Note - have to give you something to look forward to after the window shuts or you all vanish to do something productive instead!}

No chance with me Ed. I think I must hold some kind of record for consecutive site hits. I've literally read the site every day for the last 4 years. I've probably posted every day for the last 6months! Haha

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08 Jul 2014 15:32:34
Weren't we linked with max Meyer a while back? We still keeping tabs on the boy? Presumably lallanna would remove any chance now but still one to keep the eyes on for the future I hope!

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Can't see him moving this summer, but the kid is amazing. I would love to have him, but it's probably best for him to stay where he is another year or two.

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08 Jul 2014 14:33:38
Eds.

Is it too early to request another 'Happy Post Day' or would I be ruining 95% of the posts content at the moment?

Just think though, you'd get a day off from the cranks!

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Seconded

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Thirded

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08 Jul 2014 14:22:11
Just want to say, all of yous saying who have we got to replace Suarez and his goals? Are you kidding me? Sturridge will score 30+ if he stays injury free, Lambert will chip in with 25+, Lallana and Sterling will score 30 between them, and obviously Stevie and Hendo will chip in with 20-30 between them! that's 110 goals from those players alone! And if Xavi does come in, that's another 10-15 goals. Adios Amigo.

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Stick to the X Files I'd say

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08 Jul 2014 15:02:42
I prefer optimism to gloom any day, though yours might just be eclipsing that, here's for another record goal scoring season!

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08 Jul 2014 15:03:03
Xavi?

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Since when are we linked with Xavi? And in what reality does Lambert have 25+? Feels like you're being sarcastic. A more likely goal total would be something like 20-25 for Sturridge, Lambert 10-15, Lallana and Sterling 15-20, 10-15 from center of midfield and 5-10 from defense. That puts us at 85 if the players exceed my considerations. I can't see us conceding as many as last season, however, so that amount of goals would probably see us safely back into the CL.

I think Rodgers' idea is to keep possession better than last season. The players we are buying complement retention of the ball in center midfield. Now that we're good in those positions (and have Lambert to add another proven goal scorer), we can look to expanding our options on the wings (Markovic), in central defense (Lovren) and at left back (Betrand, Moreno). Satisfactory business, and though we'd all prefer a top class replacement for Suarez, there isn't one available (besides Sanchez) and I think it might be better to wait and see what preseason brings in the form of Borini, Suso, Ibe and Tex

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08 Jul 2014 15:29:43
Strange post.

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West Ham fan here in peace, not sure you can replace Suarez IMO and the Post above has tickled me so thanks for that Lambert 25 goals!! Really wanted you to win the league last season such a shame maybe if you had Downing it would of given you that little bit extra.

Good luck for next season Reds. JFT96

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Plausible apart from 25 Lambert and us signing xavi!

Maybe 25 between Lambert and borini would sound better!

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08 Jul 2014 16:01:30
Thanks Chris and likewise.

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It's certainly out there, AG

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08 Jul 2014 17:43:27
It definitely is Suffolk.

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08 Jul 2014 14:13:03
Few sites saying yaya wants out and is keen on a move to Liverpool.
Very unlikely but if it had any legs would we want to pay no for a 31 yr old?

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£4m. Isn't that what we normally pay?

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08 Jul 2014 14:49:23
Liverpool + any random player = click bait.

I doubt it's because there are so many gullible fans out there, but certainly there are more than a few here today.

Same goes for few others top teams.

Today Liverpool, tomorrow Man United/PSG/Madrid/Chelsea

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Liverpool obviously has better cake shops than Manchester.

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08 Jul 2014 15:04:19
Liverpool also has better looking women

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Seconded dan ha

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That's a bit unfair Dan mate. Manchester doesn't even have women so we were always going to win in that department ;)

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I thought Manchester was just women

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250k a week? Realistically, who could afford him, other than Real or PSG?

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08 Jul 2014 10:11:24
Hey Eds, any idea of the situation with Max Kruse?

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{Ed001's Note - no sorry.}

08 Jul 2014 13:45:10
I love this website but Liverpool fans don't half test my patience. looking through the comments for the last few days people complaining and moaning, yes our best player has gone and yes he is a wonderful talent, but he's a pathetic excuse for a pro, he's cowardly and he is a pure liar. I know lallana and lambert are not huge names but I bet you big bucks they will give everything for the team. I extremely excited for Markovic and Origi when he finally comes as he's a wonderful young talent. but just because we are not deemed to be signing the costas, sanchez's and fabregas of the world of football doesn't mean were not going to be a force. we have a strong spine of wonderful players and they will take on the responsibility when suarez leaves, like Henderson did when Gerrard was injured.

So to continually read the same de moralizing post makes me glaze over and probably does the EDS to.

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Totally agree with you mate, the negativity is unbelieveable!

At the start of last season when we flew out of the blocks, Suarez was suspended anyway.
That group of players still managed to get the results.
Imagine that same team but with Lallana replacing Aspas or Moses. Definate improvement in my opinion.

We were not and are not a one man team, Rogers has always stressed this.
The squad he is putting together will allow us to challenge on all fronts next season.

For me, Suarez burnt his bridges with the club when he released his statement apologising to Chilleni and the football community for the bite, but not for the damage it had done to Liverpool and the embarasment it has caused.

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Totally agree, Ben. I like all of our signings and am with you that we have a great foundation of existing players and an almost embedded way of playing now so the new guys should hopefully settle well too.

If we could add Moreno rather than Bertrand I would be happy, plus Lovren too but that may be a bit much financially.

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08 Jul 2014 13:42:57
Arda Turan / Nico Gaitan we should look to replace luis with. different players to suarez I know but I think brendan will go 4-3-3 next year. . .TURAN. STURRIDGE. STERLING. with markovic, lambert, coutinho, lallana, borini all slotting in if needs be.

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With Gerrard, Xavi and Hendo in behind! Wow! I can't wait for the season to arrive now!

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£26 million for Lallana so he can 'slot in' when needed?
I think he will be the first name on the team sheet with Sturridge next season.

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@Jay91, if he is injured then Markovic can 'slot in' at £20m :)

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08 Jul 2014 16:09:43
Agent scully, I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve with all your moronic posts today.

Not banter just childish and a bit sad.

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08 Jul 2014 13:20:01
Anyone else think that we should have a go at getting Loic Remy in? And in a dreamworld we could also go for Jackson Martinez.

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08 Jul 2014 13:51:30
And reality bites.

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08 Jul 2014 14:23:49
I thought it was Uruguayans that bite

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Err, no, Suarez bites.

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Remy would be a decent but at 8-10m I reckon

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08 Jul 2014 15:17:49
Well, then, reality is a bitch!

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08 Jul 2014 13:16:25
Does anyone else see a lot of similarities between Andre Wisdom and Micah Richards game. There was a lot of hype about Richards a few years back but obviously injuries and a bad attitude stopped his progress. I hope the club do not sell him and he gets another year out on loan to a premier league side, but with kelly, ilori, skrtel Toure Agger and possibly lovren it does look like he will be moved on.

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If we have any sense he and Ilori are the ready-made replacements (at least in squad terms) for Johnson & Toure at the end of this season. Let's face it there'll be no fees for those two.

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I personally feel he leapfrogs Kelly and Elroy in our pecking order (Kelly was great before that injury, Illori just hasn't had an opportunity). Preseason will show us where they are at, but I doubt Wisdom is sold outright this early on. I'd at least loan him to a Premier League club before selling; I'm sure his value would rise given a season to show his worth in the BPL. He was captain of the English u21s and did a good job helping Derby last season (according to reports)

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08 Jul 2014 13:11:40
I feel like there's this negative mindset among us Liverpool fan that whenever we are link or close to "world class" player, it will automatically become "good" or "average" it's like the mindset of no world class player will come to Liverpool.

whereas if other club target the same player. We will go like "wow they are all targeting world class player while we are after xx or yy"

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08 Jul 2014 13:48:25
Couldn't agree more Rage. Let's face it - if Chelsea went for Markovic he'd be 'the best young prospect in the world'. We're after him so automatically, he must be okay and a useful body from the bench. The fuss made about Salah is a perfect example

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08 Jul 2014 13:06:07
What's worrying me is the way all the other top 4 teams and united seem to be strengthening majorly, and us at the moment, are probably the same if not slightly worse.
Chelsea have costa and Fabregas
Arsenal seem likely to get Sanchez then just need a fullback or two and a striker and will be set
United have bought big and look to continue this.
City have been the strongest and probably will add.

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08 Jul 2014 13:32:53
7 days into the Transfer window.

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08 Jul 2014 13:35:07
Barring United, I thought the same last Summer. Look at spurs. All signing react differently, big money does players and big names does not mean they will be successful. We had barely improved the first 11 last season, we got Sakho and mignolet who start and the jury is still out in whether they were improvement (I believe they are).

We finished 2nd. Just wait mate

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08 Jul 2014 13:37:12
What a waste of time me reading this post

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08 Jul 2014 13:38:49
Pretty much like last season then and we finished 2nd.

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08 Jul 2014 13:49:53
Great thing about a young squad mate - you become better than you were at the same point last season just by the last season having past

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I take great pleasure in reading the phrase "the OTHER top 4 teams and united".

THAT shows how much we have moved on in 12 months.

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08 Jul 2014 13:54:18
You seem to have the symptom of the pasture is greener on the others side?

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So costa is better than sturridge, fabregas after such stellar seasons at Barcelona had the world at his feet and chose Chelsea, united bought a left back and are now contenders, and arsenal, let's not get into arsenal! i'm sure you're one of those fans who thought tottenham was going to win it last seaon

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08 Jul 2014 14:13:35
Herrera & Shaw a big risks for the price they have paid for them, £30 Million for Shaw makes me laugh, what has he done to command a fee like that, as for Herrera he looks okay but nothing special, it is only a week into the transfer window remember.

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The real ag, we've signed 3 players, and are looking to add a cb and lb, how many more players do you think we are going to sign?!

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Spending big money doesn't bring you success 50m torres stupid money for willian and salah just on 100m for the 3

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12 months ago plenty were announcing Spurs as potential champions. Levy was a genius, swapping a guy who'd only had one great season for a host of exciting talent. None of this matters until we see how teams settle and then how consistent they are. I'd imagine we will drop back a bit this coming season but long-term we are going to have some team.

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No need to slag off Luke Shaw just because of the transfer fee. He had nothing to do with it.

He is an outstanding prospect, and I understand we were in for him.

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08 Jul 2014 15:31:44
4 more Conbicks.

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The positive thing is that we've signed two proven BPL players and a potential midfield dynamo from a perennial CL/EL side (Leverkusen) that came from one of the best youth systems in the world in Bayern. We are not signing players from Barcelona B, Celta Vigo (not to slate Aspas and Alberto), we are going for players who have not seen the best of their careers and can still come in right now and contribute. Yes, Herrera and Shaw look great on paper, but is Shaw going to keep Evra out of the side right now? Is Rooney suddenly 6 years younger? Don't get me wrong, I think United will be back in the running at the end of the season, but I don't feel their first 11 is any better than ours w/out Suarez. We have a comradery built by one hell of a season, one heck of a coach, and functionable youth, and we will adapt without Suarez.

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5 more AG

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Evra is all but time amerigo.
And ag if we sign 5 more first team squad players, discounting future players, then I'll eat my hat, but I can't see it! Anyway do rather 2 more quality players than 5 squad players

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We spent big on Lallana and also can is a under 21 German captain why moan I bet your completely clueless

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08 Jul 2014 12:58:10
Although the press are saying different and we are yet to hear something solid from either Liverpool/Suarez or Barca just pissing balague all the time.

Is anyone hoping and thinking what kind of force we would be if Suarez stays?

Look at the signings we made - They were all to work with him in the team not replace him - Suarez was staying until the wc bite happened - By that time bids had been placed for :
Can
Lallana
Lambert
Lovren

We would be a whole different force next year in all comps especially now we would have the players to cover his ban - I for one want Luis to stay and watch us make history

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08 Jul 2014 13:34:38
He is gone. This is getting embarrassingly pathetic now.

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08 Jul 2014 13:55:52
Is this back to the future?

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The real AG: I like your posts mate, and respect your football knowledge and all that. But your replies just seem to be threatening ALL the time and it's getting boring. I don't know if you're seeking some sort of approval from the Ed's but you're not really making this forum a place where people like cialbray will want to post. It's counter productive mate, and with the greatest respect please stop it and save your wise words for something worth commenting on. As the old addage goes "If you haven't got something nice to say, don't say it at all".

The above only really applies to the latter half of your reply.

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Move on already! He does not want to play for us again so why pine for a player like that. Support the current manager and players who want to wear the shirt!

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I'm with AG

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08 Jul 2014 14:58:26
Everyone is free to comment so AG keep at it, and DP there's a big difference between being annoyed and threatening, so let me suggest that you don't accuse someone incorrectly, and your adage aptly applies to yourself in this regard.

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@DPrince95, cialbray is posting nonsense. I'd much rather read 10 posts from AG that the 200 foolish ones like this from cialbray.

The club were already working under the assumption Suarez would most likely be leaving.

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I'm with AG as well, what he said is spot on.

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Also agree with AG, if you're naive enough to believe that we weren't already preparing to sell suarez anyway then expect similar responses in the future

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Completely agree with AG. Time to move onwards and upwards

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08 Jul 2014 16:00:15
First of all, I apologize to the OP (cialbray) if you find my post "threatening" as DPrince95 put it. That certainly was not my intention.

DPrince95: I respect that you have worded your reply in a civilized (yet sarcastic) manner.

But, you are being a hypocrite. You ask me to post only when absolutely necessary but yet the OP could have take 3 minutes of his time to read through today's posts and he would quite plausibly have come to the conclusion that he wouldn't need to ask such a insipid question at all.

I don't need to seek anything from the Eds, they will post something when they want too. If you find my posts boring, feel free to skip over and abide by the adage you posted.

Also, why do you think I am being "threatening"? That is something you are making up.

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08 Jul 2014 16:36:16
at Sean Ireland - Where do you get your information from that we were preparing for life without Suarez!? Start of the world cup Suarez comes out and says "Dont worry about me i'm not going anywhere" so why would we be preparing for life without him - Suggest you do some homework before you start criticizing people for posting so called nonsense

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08 Jul 2014 17:46:39
cialbray: Suarez says a lot of things which he contradicts with his actions later. You really are quite gullible (and I don't mean that in a bad way) if you believe Suarez after all that he has said and done.

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@cialbray, you're embarrassing yourself. And where I get my info from is from reading this site, pinch of salt for a lot of the posts but I take what some posters to say to be true and I take what the Eds to say to be true.

If you read this site you'd also have expected Suarez to go either way. Read all the other replies and everyone else expected it too.

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@The Real AG: Apology accepted and yeah I was probably being a bit of a hypocrite when I was writing it.

What I was really trying to get at is that this is meant to be a vibrant community where people should feel free to be able to post things. While I agree with you that the OP was rubbish, I felt as if it wasn't really the sort of attitude we should be sharing with fellow fans. That was all mate!

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08 Jul 2014 11:34:48
Hi Ed's I've seen news/rumours that Liverpool are interested in hunteelar, can I ask why we would be interested in him?

I don't see him offering anything different to lambert

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08 Jul 2014 13:35:22
I agree.

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I believe rodgers understands he won't be replacing suarez with another 30 goals a season striker. He will expect sturridge to be our main goalscorer, but he is probably looking for all his other goals to come from a number of players than a single source. Huntelaar and lambert bought knows where the back of the net is and if each of them can get around 10 goals, think we will be good. That is just my opinion though.

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08 Jul 2014 14:00:49
They are 2 different players bar a few similarities. Hunteelar is more of a box/target kinda player. Lambert can offer more across the front and is very agile for a player of his type.

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He us nothing like Lambert so clearly you've never seen either play. I do wish people would stop assuming Lambert is a target man/poacher just because he is over 6ft. It's getting pathetic now.

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08 Jul 2014 15:46:52
I was thinking more into what kind of role Huntelaar would have with us if he signed. I think Lambert gets involved more with build up play than Huntelaar does.

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As in squad role I assume? Not role as in position?

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08 Jul 2014 17:47:23
Yes as in a squad role.

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08 Jul 2014 12:35:06
If we are really going to buy Huntelaar, I think it would be good buy, the guy has always been a goalscorer, At Real and Milan he really wasnt given that many chances, he still put in quite a few goals. My only concern would be his age.

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08 Jul 2014 11:57:47
Just reflecting on the spending Liverpool have dun this year . The owners have taken soo much flac over the years . But we are soo lucky and can't believe how much our squad has improved . though I still think it will be tougher next season than this even with our new additions. I do hope we get to a final or two and a comfortable top four finish will do . can't wait 2c how Brendan does in europe . Benitez was a genius with these fixtures. heres hoping

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Here, here. History has shown that most managers seem to struggle tactically the first few years in Europe but I'm hoping with BR's tactical ability he will excel.

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08 Jul 2014 11:30:51
Anyone else think borini isn't good enough for lfc and if it had been anyone else who had bought him instead of rodgers he would be gone already.

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No. borini's work rate is great to watch and I think he will do a good job as an impact sub next season. just my opinion.

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I think that's a bit unfair given his limited playing time due to injury and having Suarez and Sturridge ahead of him. This season will be make or break for Borini, but having seen him do a job for Sunderland, he could offer us something.

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Borini is a potentially clinical finisher in the early stages of his development. He is also an excellent passer of the ball, has very good technical ability, is fairly quick, has a lethal strike on him from dead ball situations/from range and also works harder than anybody else on the pitch (excluding Henderson).

He is only 23 and still raw. Last season at Sunderland he showed how good he is and personally I think he is like a slightly faster but not as strong Dirk Kuyt. He is better suited to playing out wide where we can best utilise his work rate without curbing his attacking threat.

If we sell Borini I will be gutted for the lad because he is a very talented player and we will come to regret it when he is banging in 15-20 a season, which in my opinion he would if he played regularly. I'm one of his biggest fans and cannot understand why he is so under rated. He struggled in his first season; so what? So did Suarez, Henderson, Lucas etc.

Borini deserves a chance as much as anybody else in the squad. I hope Rodgers gives him that chance. I'd rather have Borini in the left forward role than Markovic or Shaquiri, put it that way! He could be at this club until he is well into his thirties and i'd personally welcome him!

I have a lot of time for hardworking players because they make everybody elses job easier. I can only assume that nobody watched him last year for Sunderland? he scored 10 goals playing left wing in a relegation scrapping side and almost single handedly dragged Sunderland out of the relegation zone. Why do you think they are so desperate to keep him? He's a big game player who doesn't shy away from pressure. He scored more goals last season against the top 4 teams (3 excluding us) than Suarez did and cracked in a stunner in the Derby vs Newcastle. What is not to like about this lad?

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08 Jul 2014 12:53:24
See the thing with borini in my opinion is he isn't an impact player you can't bring him of the bench to change things he needs a run of games to get going. I think he is a good player but for his age I think that a move to where he is playing regularly is what he needs and I hope the club can get a decent fee in return. He just won't play in a run of games for us . I like the guy and I wish him well either way. I do feel we need an impact player but that could just as easy be a winger like ibe than a forward

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No I disagree completely. I think he felt a little pressure upon moving to us and, with the injury problems he had throughout the season, meant that his first season was very disruptive and was not conducive for him to play his best football. I think fans were very quick to criticise him and jump on the bandwagon of "not good enough" "waste of money" etcetera without giving the lad a proper chance.

You can never predict how a player will adapt and develop but he did reasonably well in a poor Sunderland side, has great work rate and off the ball movement and seems to be really motivated to be the best he can be (perhaps overly so leading to nerves?) - I think if fans back him he has a great chance of doing well this coming season, I really hope he is given the chance but, more importantly, I hope the fans go easy on him: the last thing a player needs is abuse from his own supporters.

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I keep changing my mind on Borini. Great write up though EMS and you've won me over. I'm in the let's give Borini a chance camp.

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He's a decent player who will be a good player. He can play the Dirk Kuyt role for us - he has bundles of energy, can fill in (backup/rotation) on the RW or he can cover striker or play as part of a front 2. I think he's a good squad player to have. He's not prolific but either was Kuyt and he was superb for us.

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08 Jul 2014 13:29:06
Agree completely EMS!

He has such a massive potential with great and positive energy all around.

He just needs to be given opportunities and support as he's had some tough times since coming over.

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And EMS, 3 or 4 of his goals were penalties so they showed composure but not goalscoring abilities. I like Borini but your argument for 10 goals from LW isn't a legitimate one, he played up front too at times.

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08 Jul 2014 13:39:34
If he stays, perhaps you can judge him after this year instead of denigrating him for no reason.

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That is a good point Sean Ireland mate. But somebody has to step up to take them and he didn't miss one. 7 open play goals from anywhere at a team who were bottom of the league until what, March (?) Is good regardless.

I see your point though but hopefully in a more attacking team who have more possession in the final third he could improve those figures. Last year he showed potential. Sometimes you don't see how good players are until you put them in a team with better players who can exploit his runs either into space or to drag a centre back away from Sturridge.

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I agree with EMS although I would rather play him up front in games and have Markovic, Sterling, Lallana or Ibe wide supporting him.

Looks a good player though and was unlucky to join and get injured and then the pressure just built.

Hopefully, the lad doesn't read this site and get demoralised by a lot of our fans as he definitely deserves a chance as is more than capable of showing his value to the club.

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I think in a better team he could get us maybe 10 goals out of a little under 30 games including substitute appearances this season. That's about as much as we could expect from him and that would be good enough for me anyway.

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If we don't get another attacker (Origi, Markovic excluded), I wouldn't mind Borini starting against Southampton. Borini LW, Sterling RW, Sturridge FW, Lallana AM. Even if we buy Markovic, I'd give that a shot v. SH. Lambert can make his debut as a sub. I rate Borini as well, though I wouldn't lose sleep if we sold him at a profit and bought an additional striker with the money.

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100% agree Sean mate. 10 goals from him next season would be a good return from a back up forward. Compare that to Moses (2), Aspas (1) and Alberto (0) and you can see why we struggled last year. There was nobody to step in when somebody suffered an injury or loss of form.

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For me as well, EMS, I'd be looking more at getting another flexible wide player and have Borini 3rd choice for centre forward with one up top so he'd surely get a few games up top during the season.

I'd prefer that to signing someone like Huntelaar. [all based on us going back to 4-3-3 with one central striker]

Aspas and Moses replaced by Lambert and Borini is a great step up for me. I'll wait to see more of Luis Alberto and from what I saw of him it was far more defensive than I had expected so we'll see what happens with him.

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08 Jul 2014 11:25:09
It is going to be very hard to replace Suarez next season, like for like, it will be impossible. But Lallana, Markovic and Lovren all purchased out of the Suarez fee (roughly) isn't too bad. They will improve our squad hugely. We will have pace and guile throughout our whole front line. Next seasons CL qualification will be even tougher with all the top teams improving, and all the extra games we will have to play, a better squad will be essential. I just hope we can keep our style of play going with all the new arrivals, and that it doesn't take too long for them to settle in.

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08 Jul 2014 12:55:54
Im looking forward to seeing sterling ibe and possibly suso if he stays take on some of the suarez responsibility

different players yes, but they could definately do some damage as a unit

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08 Jul 2014 11:20:17
seeing as we are targeting possibly 2 Wide forwards, would one of these be able to cover for sturridge if he was injured or suspended?

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08 Jul 2014 13:43:17
We are not targeting 2 wide forwards.

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08 Jul 2014 11:07:31
Am I the only one that thinks that Huntelaar would be a quality signing? Ok granted he's not exactly young at 31, and there are more mobile players out there but if you look at his positional play he seems to be on the money a lot of the time and he is such a clinical finisher. With dynamic players like Sturridge, Coutinhio, Sterling, Lallana, Henderson and now possibly Markoic all working around him there would be no end of quality support and supply. I for one would welcome him into the team. Yes he didn't have the best of times at Madrid but he does seemed to have matured a lot at Schalke? Just a thought.

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I'd rather keep Borini. He offers us versatility in positions, an amazing work rate, calmness and maturity above his age (remember who it was who stepped up to take penalties for a relegation scrap team, also a loanee) and his runs offer options and a menace throughout the game. He is also one who will fight for his shirt. I feel Borini will gain positional play as he ages too.

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It is pointless judging a poacher on their early career as most of them peak in the late 20's and early 30's. His game is based all on composure and positional awareness which only improves with age.

I agree with you, he'd be a good signing because he gurantees goals. However I'm not sure he'd be the best signing which is why I'm sceptical about his signing. He will alter our team dynamic when played. You could argue though that we cannot afford to go all guns blazing 3 times a week. If we play like we did last season in every game (CL included) we'll be burnt out by Christmas so perhaps we need a player like Huntelaar who can play in a slower paced game and still grab a couple of goals. He doesn't need the game to be stretched to punish players because he is that good at finding space.

I'm just trying to look at this from Rodgers point of view and we could potentially end up in the Europa league next year if we drop out of the CL in 3rd place of our group. That would bring a lot of games with it and therefore we will need more striking options and people capable of scoring in slower tempo matches. He's isn't the best signing, but he is far from bad!

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I was surprised by the link. But Huntelaar definitely gives us another option tactically.He is nothing like any of the players currently in the squad.

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08 Jul 2014 11:00:22
I maybe posting in the wrong section I'm not sure, but the fact that can wanted 10 and coutinho would've been moved to 7, has filled me with confidence. as if the club are looking for that next great 7. what are your views, am I just being silly?

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08 Jul 2014 10:49:49
So, as we know, if Suarez was to stay the club were shopping for a DCM=>Can, ACM=>Lallana, CF=>Lambert, CB=>(Lovren?), LB=>(Moreno?), WF=>(Markovic?).
This would have given us a strong enough squad for 4 comps after selling numerous superfluous players.

This leads me to believe that the sale of Suarez is being dealt with as a seperate entity to any of those incomings. Once the deal is done I think the focus will turn to filling that gap. Assuming we don't get Sanchez there is pretty much no way 1 player can replace Suarez.
Of those that have been looked at and are available I wouldn't mind seeing Lacazette & Heung-Min Son brought in. This would give us 7 players competing for the 3 forward positions (Son/Ibe, Sturridge/Lacazette/Lambert, Sterling/Markovic) and it will be exciting to watch which of these young players emerge as consistent 1st team performers.

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Surely Markovich is instead of Sanchez or Shakiri? All including Suarez play on the right of the leading striker which in our case is Sturridge. Sanchez is not going to happen which is why we are signing Markovich. After Origi, Lovren, Markovich and a lefty I think we are finished in the market. We would of spent well over 100 million and don't forget the club knew Suarez was being sold last year. We have spent our budget. If we had a chance still of getting Sanchez then we wouldn't of got Markovich. Borini will return don't forget. Ibe will want playing time. Coutinho and Lambert will not want to be stuck on the bench.

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I think the club were well aware that Suarez was on his way and certainly don't think those 6 players would all be (potentially) signing if Suarez wasn't leaving. Suspect that both Lovren and Markovic moves, due to their cost (£45mil ish?) are being facilitated by the Suarez transfer.

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I agree with Mickee and Seano. I think this was well known in-house for a while and BR is building a much more fluid and versatile attack rather than rely solely on recruiting a striker.

I'm really happy about this and we will be nothing like Spurs as we've a manager who knows exactly how he wants his team to play and has an underlying methodology to his footballing philosophies so he was always going to recruit players more suited to the team ethic and not mega money egomaniacs :-)

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It looks like we are planning to balance revenues in and out this summer. We will use the Suarez money to strengthen the overall squad and reduce the amount of transfers we need to make in future years when resources are required for the stadium. Looking like (ballpark) 100m spend and 100m back from sales. I reckon a few loans out as well.

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08 Jul 2014 18:41:30
Sorry, I should ad that I've been operating under the assumption that a good offer would be accepted for Borini and he'd be gone. If he stays then scratch the new central striker idea. I'll be delighted if Borini succeeds.

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08 Jul 2014 10:44:41
With all the talk of our No 7 leaving for Barca, I just wanna say how happy I am for Daniel Sturridge!

He's going to get to be the 'main man' now! The focal point!

He even got to play in the World Cup in the back of a really season from him due to us believing in him!

I'm hoping for even better things next season from our Danny Boy!

Just waiting for the squad numbers to be announced then it's time to get the new kit with his name/number on the back again 😃

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Perhaps we all ready have our replacement for Suarez at the club?

Fowler-Owen-Torres-Suarez-Sturridge?

Some of the things he has shown he is capable of are ridiculous.

Chips - vs. Everton and West Brom.
That ball juggling goal against Stoke, and the powerhouse shot in the reverse fixture. His ability to dance round the Villa defence in the second game. The finesse shots too.

I'd just hope for an injury free season for him to really shine.

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08 Jul 2014 10:40:46
Any interest in any Napoli players? They're linked with loans for Reina and Lucas

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Forgive me if I'm wrong but we did have an interest in Gokhan Inler in January I think.

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08 Jul 2014 13:46:04
Inler and Behrami were of interest during Rafa's time here.

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08 Jul 2014 10:40:26
Morning all,

I know this is extremely unlikely but would anyone else love to see Balotelli leading or attack next season. Even though he is a nut case he is a great player plus at least he doesn't bite people!

Just throwing it out there.

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Absolutely not.

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08 Jul 2014 12:57:46
i'd like to see balotelli aswell. now that would be a front line alright!

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To build a strong team ethic, will to win, will to sweat blood and tears for your fellow teammate, you need the right players with the right type of mentality. Balotelli is incredibly talented - his attitude is very poor and his desire to really work for his team is highly contentious. Just don't think he is the right fit for our team.

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I would not like to see him here because of his trouble making attitude.
But would support him if he were to be signed.

vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

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08 Jul 2014 13:47:00
No thanks.

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08 Jul 2014 14:03:31
Unless we are trying to replace one that's crazy but great with one that's crazy but not so great.

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Rodgers has said he likes intelligent footballers. Balotelli can't even put on a training bib without assistance. (google "Balotelli training bib" and watch the video).

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^thats why I want him back in the PL - he is hilarious - just not when he's on your team

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08 Jul 2014 10:31:21
Ed01, my interest is largely in the youth team at the moment because if you have a lad who is talented, hungry and willing to listen to instructions, you will get better value for almost no price. Jese Rodriguez(if my memo serve me right came through RM ranks) the lad will only turn a world class if he progresses fine. In the LFC ranks, is there any kid there you personally rate well to become good I.e a Striker? Is the club looking to add any kid in the Striking dept? Do you personally think any of them will be ready at least for the pre-season or loan? Your view will be appreciated. Thanks

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{Ed001's Note - Delle Ali we are looking to add. Oyo, Rossiter defo have the potential.}

08 Jul 2014 10:22:26
eds quick question.
Do you guys ever get contacted or contact guys from other sites to verify information? EG transfermarkt, and heaven forbid bleacherreport? with regards to interest. Or have journalists ever asked you for information?

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{Ed001's Note - why would we contact sites like bleacherreport? They are just a bunch of fans writing crap. Transfermarkt get their info from what is reported to the relevant football association, far easier just to do the same.}

He was asking if they ask you I think

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{Ed001's Note - no, why would they when they can just carry on cribbing stuff without asking?}

Just wondering that's all ED 001 if there was any co operation/inquisition to help validate the rumours between sites or whether there is any sort of competition. Bleacher report I just threw in there is it's a joke of a sight that thinks they sometimes have an inside scoop. haven't visited it in about 3 years.

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{Ed001's Note - I have no idea, I don't really take much notice of other sites, being perfectly honest. I just don't have the time for that.}

08 Jul 2014 10:04:26
Yaya Toure wants out!

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08 Jul 2014 10:20:30
Okay.

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Do you live under a rock?

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We couldn't afford his birthday present, let alone his transfer fee!

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08 Jul 2014 11:09:36
Poor Mrs Toure. I hope she got him to sign a pre-nup.

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It is believed he is upset because he didn't get a "Welcome back from the World Cup, sorry you lost" Cake.

Toure's agent is said to be livid that this has happened again, and will look for either a move or a new contract for £500,000 a week (plus a cake chef on demand).

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08 Jul 2014 10:04:06
Hi eds,

Just wondering, if we sign Lovren for 20M, how close is it getting to being more financially viable to buy Southampton football club and sack the players we don't want!

Cheers.

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Haha, best post I've ever read on here!

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That was funny! I do feel for their fans though. The club showed great ambition and were very refreshing to watch and clearly something has gone on behind the scenes now and it looks a bit of a fire sale by the owners now. Fans must be gutted.

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Banter posts need a like button

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They have just signed Tadic for £10.9m - good piece of business. If they spend all of their incoming funds on wise acquisitions they will be fine.

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08 Jul 2014 09:21:59
"NEWS: Suarez sale hits stalemate as #LFCdemand the full £75m up front."
that's what I call getting passed off.
I love Ian Ayre

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08 Jul 2014 10:51:17
All they have to do is buy Ayre a Mars bar and it will swing the deal.

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What if it all breaks down (which it won't) and he ended up staying.
Could you forgive him yet again for trying to leave?

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Oh My! Now things become interesting once again.

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08 Jul 2014 13:49:29
I have never forgiven him for his antics last year.

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I can just imagine Ayre riding in to the Barca offices, parking in the foyer, telling the dolly bird to pass on the message and riding out into the sunset

i appreciate us playing hard ball and I did have a chuckle about it but I just want to get rid of him already

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08 Jul 2014 09:20:08
Just a quick question eds
Given that Rogers seems to like adaptable forwards who are able to move fluently across the front line, do you find it odd we are looking at possibly trying to bring in huntelaar when we already have Lambert?
I would have thought given that we already have sturridge and Lambert and borinj we have enough cover for injury and options etc and therefore buying a more adatsbke forward would have been a better option

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{Ed001's Note - why would that be odd? You don't tend to get adaptable poachers!}

We need goalscorers. In terms of adaptable forwards we have Sturridge, Sterling, Borini & (hopefully) Markovich. Both Lallana & Coutinho could operate in the 2 behind or either side of a striker as could Suso & Texeira. Lambert is more like Teddy Sheringham than Andy Carroll so an out and out number 9 seems a good idea to me. Lambert played in a fluid front 3 at Saints so people shouldn't pigeon hole him as a traditional target man. He's more than that.

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08 Jul 2014 10:37:48
No, I know you don't tend to get adaptable poachers but I meant the fact that he is looking for a poacher slightly odd.
Clearly sturridge and sterling will play and if we pay over 20million for markovic or a similar target it is likely that Lambert would be benched so I was merely questioning why we would look to someone similar in their role to Lambert

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08 Jul 2014 09:10:09
Just say we sign loveren markovic and Origi for around 50 mill combined. Bit of perspective is all we need lads United might be signing Vidal and Herrera for the price of the 6 players we would have signed. I'd be happier with our business. and people saying lallana only worth 10-15 mill? Ross McCormack going for 11 mill ish. I know the eds don't like figures but I'm just trying to give a little bit of perspective here. I'm happy with our business and we have to remember all prices of players are now inflated unless the selling club want rid. like now if Liverpool were going to sell a player we didn't want to eg sterling we would probably want a ridiculous fee of 30 mill plus to consider selling. just need to see it from both sides!

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08 Jul 2014 10:02:15
I think you give a fair analysis ShaneK_LFC. I, too, am happy with our business so far assuming we complete the Markovic, Lovren, Bertrand/Moreno (or other LB) and Origi deals.

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08 Jul 2014 10:09:30
Our attack is going to be very good because of:
1. We can again play in Rodgers favorite system with one forward (sturridge/lambert), and three creative interchanging attacking midfielders behind in (Lallana, sterling, markovic, countinho, hendo), all with a lot of pace and trickery. Can take on defenders, create unbalance, and play sturridge in scoring positions.

2. With can, Lallana, Henderson we can close down and win the ball in good positions. Again with our front men being able to take on defenders I can see us scoring a lot of goals.

3. With lambert we have a player than can score when teams that agave 10 men in their own box.

Only concern I have is the left back position. At least we have Enrique back from injury, and if we can buy a good left back I'm sure this will also contribute to better attacking play than last year.

So goals will be scored, and hopefully we have replaced Suarez magic with a team that performs better and scores more consistently. Remember that Swansea played great attacking football with Rodgers, so did we last year.

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08 Jul 2014 10:45:49
What I find strange is that, people moan about Lallana been overpriced even after the great season he had in the premiership, but nothing about Markovic, who I doubt many have even seen, surely that's much more of a risk?

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08 Jul 2014 08:30:23
Who do you guys (including Ed002 and Ben!) think will replace Suarez up front (unless there is a change in formation). I've heard Huntelaar and Balotelli being thrown around, and even just starting Borini! Do you think we need a new striker to replace him or should markovic and sterling be fine in a 4-3-3 with sturridge?

Personally I would love to see Higuain or Benzema but I know there is virtually no chance of us getting them :( Also how much of a risk do you think Markovic is if we were to sign him, as he is promising but £20mil is a lot for someone so young!

I would have preferred us to put a bid in for El Shaarawy or someone who's already known to be a quality wide man with the money. But then again, BR knows what he is doing and we will have to stick by his decisions and the players he brings in! What do you think our starting line up should be next season by the way? Many thanks, YNWA

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Morning Hindsey. I still am of thought that BR accommodated Sturridge and Suarez into his system simply because they are both class players, rather than it being his preferred formation. I don't think there will be a 'direct' replacement, and I think we'll see a change in formation.
Markovic is a risk, but that can be said of all 'promising' youngsters. I hope that if we sign him, the fans give him time. Remember how many fans were on Hendos back a little over a year ago, and now look where he is at.

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El sharaway and markovic just in my opinion are at a similar stage in their career and did el sharaway not have one of those career hamperingly bad injuries which he's only recovering from?

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08 Jul 2014 09:22:54
It won't be a like for like replacement. Suarez, Moses, Alberto has left and in place of them LFC have/will bring in Lallana, Markovic, Lambert and Borini.

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08 Jul 2014 09:27:36
I think we have replaced him mate in Markovic Lallana. Change slightly in formation I think.

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08 Jul 2014 08:28:01
Hi eds, for a long time you have said that el Shaarawy could be a viable option if Suarez were ever to leave, or else we wouldn't have the money. Now it looks inevitable that Suarez is off (I know he is injured at the moment) but has he been looked at? 20 goals last year!

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have moved for other players. The money is spent.}

In years to come, He would have been every bit as good as Suarez Torres ect. Sadly we've blown the money mate. Lallana will be a decent buy but never world class. Everyone else is average if that

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Lallana is already world class mate. I don't think anybody here even watched him last season. He was easily as good as Hazard, Willian, Mata, Silva, Ozil, Nasri, Oscar etc if not better than the last 6.

I swear some people are just negative for the sake of conflict.

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Oh and Can is 20 years old and Lambert cost £4m. There is no way you can tell how good Can will be at this age. He has the potential to be one of the best but only a psychic could guess whether or not he'll utilise it.

You'd do well to remember that Lambert was one of only 12 players in Europe last season to finish with double figures in both goals and assists. He is currently in a different league to El Shawaray who just looks good in a league in severe decline. I'm not saying he's a bad player, just masdively over hyped (not to mentiom a sick note; anybody remember Alex Pato?).

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08 Jul 2014 10:45:21
DBol. What a pile of nonsense you just wrote!!

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08 Jul 2014 12:00:58
EMS, you're wasting your breath, mate.

People want 'superstar' status players and no amount of reason will change that.

For the record I like el shawaary but I wouldn't want him over Lallana.

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Did you actually watch El Shaarawy last season? He was poor after one good season. As for everyone bashing Lallana he was fantastic and fits into our formation which Rodgers wants to use. Markovic I have not seen much of but he seems to be highly enough rated and on clips and the one game I did see him play in he reminded me of a much quicker Coutinho. We will never find a like for like replacement for Suarez but we will be stronger defensively, more depth and hopefully Sturridge will benefit even more from good build up play and the focus being on him as he did early last season.

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08 Jul 2014 05:49:27
Hi Ed's want to know if you have any idea why and if these players below,

C.Tello
G. Deulofeu
M.Montaya
Bojan Krkić

haven't been discussed as part of Suarez deal?

Deulofeu definitely had a great season and would have been great addition.
Why I am asking this is because these players are already used to play the style of football that Liverpool have been playing under BR.

Personally on any day I would get Deulofeu over Markovic.

You thoughts please

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{Ed002's Note - No idea. You are clutching at straws.}

Montoya is the only player there that would be a good signing. Tello is pants, Deulofeu is inconsistent and greedy, Krkic is even worse than pants.

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Seem to remember one or two of the everton players not being too keen on good as a person - of course I may have imagined this

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08 Jul 2014 08:15:37
Just thought i'd pop in before work. Question for everyone.

We could potentially lose between 10 and 20 players this summer including the league's best player, likewise we could potentially bring in around 10 or more players. How do you feel this will effect the chemistry and progress of the squad?

Personally, I'd move on the players who made little to no impact last season and replace them with good squad players. It looks like it's going that way with the signings so far. I'd then make maybe 3 or 4 upgrades on the first team.

What does everyone else think?

Red Rum

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08 Jul 2014 09:09:41
Red rum you r spot on with your opinion.

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I think we will continue to buy and sell 5+ players most summer windows until we have a solid group of 15-18 players who don't want to leave and are playing well. Then we will probably be down to buying 1 or two top players to improve the 11 and a youth addition or two and maybe move on 3-4 players who are near the end of their career along with youth players who won't make it. so even if only half our signings work out each summer we can just move the other half on but in 2-3 years we could have an incredibly strong squad. we don't have the cash to buy 6-7 50 mill players and have a top class squad in one fell swoop it just won't happen

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20 players. are you sure. Not from the first team squad anyway!

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08 Jul 2014 09:26:13
I am concerned as I mentioned couple of months back.

However, a large number of players going out will be fringe/squad players or players who have been out on loan. Apart from Suarez, Lucas and Agger, all the others rumored to be going out were not regulars at LFC last season.

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08 Jul 2014 09:39:57
If we did move on the players who (as you said) had little impact the previous season then IMHO many of our fantastic performers from last season wouldn't have been at the club for 2013/14. For example Skrtel and Henderson would have most certainly been moved on. Cold statistical analysis is not always the best indicator of overall performance and impact. On that we must trust that the coaches, players and manager are able to identify the "X" factor that is missed in performance analysis.

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I'd expect a shedload of loans to occurr closer to the end of the window I thinkw e had about a dozen loaned out players last season. I don't see the point in getting rid of these players till necessary or unless a good enough bid comes in.
I would expect, coates, suso Agger or Skrtel, robinson and coady to be sold
assaidi and aspas could go.

This would certainly trim the wage bill, and we need to start cutting ''deadwood''

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08 Jul 2014 07:52:41
Looking down the page, I have to agree with some of yesterdays posts, we don't seem to have learned about negotiating transfers. Yet again we pay WAY over the odds for players, not bad players but decent, it's going to be even harder to reach the top 4 next season and i'm not inspired at all by who we seem to be linked with to replace suarez, it's looking like quantity over quality again, and ultimately we'll pay the price in the long run. To many numbers cominig in who are decent players, but are over hyped and over priced, looks like a very up and down season lies ahead. I'm not a happy chappy at the moment, just really really hope i'm wrong.

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08 Jul 2014 09:30:12
It is not ideal but it is definitely not "Quantity over Quality".

Attack
Outs: Aspas, Suarez, Moses.
Ins: Markovic, Borini, Lambert.

Midfield
Outs: Lucas, Alberto
Ins: Lallana, Can

Defence
Outs: Cissokho, Agger
Ins: Lovren, Bertrand.

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But we need to add players we will have two games a week something we didn't have last season so Alberto Lucas agger will stay

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Im not to sure if say Utd were in for Lallana they would have got him for any cheaper. Maybe the player might not be worth the fee paid. Only time will tell I guess. I guess you mean Liverpool should have walked away imstead of paying possibly over the odds.?

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We don't need extra bodies. All core squads are about 24/25 in number. Any more is unworkable and unmanageable. Plus it costs money. It's about a better quality group and a much stronger match day 18. As AG outlines we will have better options for BRs system throughout the team except in LS position. We just need to ensure that the overall improvement balances out losing Suarez. I like the fact that BR isn't gambling on most signings and the younger foreign imports look to have excellent technique, personality and work ethic. But we won't know until we start the season will we? That's why we like football. I don't see the point of being negative before a ball has been kicked. Then again they reckon 25% of the population are chemically programmed to fear the worst. Maybe a that figure is a touch higher on this site!

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08 Jul 2014 07:42:08
Hi Eds.

Sorry if been asked before but I'm on my phone and can't see it on the search option.
Is there any chance of bojan krkic coming in? Have we shown interest? I think he's on a free transfer. Would be worth it IMO.

Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - There has been no interest.}

He's been terrible for years now.

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08 Jul 2014 03:42:46
Good day eds. This isn't Liverpool related but I was wondering what the situation is with Fiorentina's Giuseppe Rossi. Will he be moving this window? Any teams interested? Thank you and keep up the good work lads.

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{Ed001's Note - he needs to prove his fitness first mate.}

08 Jul 2014 03:24:49
eds I have been meaning to ask you this.

Between Shaqiri and Kono, who would you rate higher?

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{Ed001's Note - I have not really seen enough of either, but from what I have seen, I really wouldn't want Shaqiri. Yes he can be brilliant, but most of the time he is anonymous and ineffective, in the games I have seen. In fact I have seen him play well twice, both times against what could be considered weaker opposition, in about 15 games I have seen him play.}

I agree with Ed001 - I don't understand the interest in Shaqiri. He makes a great youtube compilation but the rest of his time on the pitch is pretty anonymous

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08 Jul 2014 02:01:33
Hi Eds

Just wondering if there would be anything stopping Liverpool snapping up Lukaku? Would chelsea try and block a move because were competitors? I think he's a beast and still young. I know u said athletico were intrested. but would we have a chance after Teeth completes his move to Barca?

also. have we cooled intrest in tello completly?

Thanks Eds

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{Ed001's Note - because his first touch is poor, he is inconsistent and he has not got the best attitude, they are what is stopping us going for him. Chelsea would gladly sell him to whoever he wants to go to, they don't block moves because of who the team is.}

08 Jul 2014 09:20:58
Just a thought but if Sanchez is off to arsenal then maybe have a look at Walcott or even the ox. I know Walcott is injury prone but an all English front 3 sterling sturridge walcott/ox could be lethal

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07 Jul 2014 23:15:15
Ed001, do you know if there is any plan to give Jordan Rossiter time with the first-team during pre-season such as the tour of the US, or is it more likely that he will stay with the 21's and work with them.

Cheers,

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{Ed001's Note - he is expected to be with the first team squad a lot of the season, but he should be going on the tour and playing as well.}

08 Jul 2014 03:32:28
This place is getting extremely similar to a "Who's got the biggest b*******" competition. Some of us need to remember were all supporting the same team here! No need to prove you're intelligent on here lads, we've all shown it by supporting the right team.

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08 Jul 2014 09:12:01
Well said.

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I agree .

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Heaven forbid people attempt to talk some sense. You'd be better telling the eejits who ask ill informed questions that are answered anyway three posts down to clear off. It's also boring when people criticise a player they know nothing about and offer no real reason other than "don't like him". Like that baldie feller off Little Britain. "Don't want him".

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08 Jul 2014 01:57:56
why isn't there any posts about who are we gunna target now that sanchez turned us down?

everyone on here seems to think sturridge can carry us every game this year, sturridge is injury prone, we need another attacker with quality or ill be really worrid for the season!

we didn't just loose a 30 goal striker we lost a fighter who also had the most assists in the league.

lallana will help in that department but markovic is young and will have to get used to the fast pace of the prem.

if rodgers is going to play with one up to in a 4-3-3 then fine but we really don't wanna be playing away to the big boys with borini or lambert upfront.

im sure a striker will be bought in and I hope its a top quality player because I don't think u guys get what we've just lost in suarez.

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It seems as though we're targeting Markovic to me?

My personal opinion is we'll be just fine. Those banging on about a marquee signing I just don't understand. Just because a player is expensive that doesn't automatically make them right for us. When was the last time we signed a 'marquee' player? And who is it people think we're specifically able to get? If we can maintain our CL status for a few seasons, then we might be able to start attracting those sorts of players more, but at the moment we're just not quite there yet and personally I'm not convinced it's the way forward for us anyway.

We have a great squad even without Suarez or a new marquee signing- Sturridge, Henderson, Allen, Can, Sterling, Lallana, Flanagan, Sakho, Borini, Coutinho, perhaps Markovic and Lovren- all very good players and all 26 or under with Lallana being the oldest at just turned 26. That's a team that in a season or two of experience playing together could be downright lethal.

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Is this a joke? the Sanchez related posts are becoming just as annoyingly rehashed as the Suarez ones

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08 Jul 2014 06:48:16
Klaas Jan Huntelar is the man to replace Suarez

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No one said studge is going to take us all the way every game of the season but what I am saying is we need to focus the team around him as we done with Suarez. if we do bring in a striker it should be under the same conditions we brought sturridge in not like we got suarez in for the fact that we already have a 20+ goal a season striker.

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Now that we can't get Sanchez,, selling Suarez just seems ridiculous. The sale benefits everyone apart from the team

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Agreed Benny.

Borini is a versatile attacker who seems to play better out wide or as part of an interchangeable front 3. Sturridge as you say is injury prone and Lambert is not an out and out striker as he drops deep and pulls wide a lot. If Suarez goes I'd expect us to sign the wide player we wanted regardless (Markovic) and then replace Suarez with a or a forward who can play across a front 3. Sterling Sturridge Markovic, Borini Lambert Ibe is all we have right now assuming Aspas leaves, Borini stays and Markovic signs. Perhaps we'll just give Aspas another season? It's always harsh to judge a player on one season in a new country, team, league and lifestyle.

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08 Jul 2014 01:18:36
Dont know if I'm getting mixed up but did markovic get sent off in the europa league final? And would that rule him out of the first few champions league games?

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He was sent off against Juventus I think.

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{Ed008's Note - Correct.

Didn't he get subbed, then get a red on the bench?

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I want to see how Sterling, Sturridge, Lallana, Coutinho, Hendo, Gerrard do together anyway. Plus we got Suso back who had a similar season in Li Liga to Markovic. Not saying they're on the same level but Suso isn't too far off as some might think.

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So does he miss any games eds?

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08 Jul 2014 08:35:56
Don't see how they fit together? Substitutions, rotation, not having to have literally every good and uninjured player on the field at the same time?

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He shouldn't miss any games I'm nearly positive he came off the bench in the final?

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He was sent off in the semi final while on the bench. He missed the final. Love how people are worried about him missing a game or two but not so long ago there were some people who were wanting to keep Suarez with him missing 4 months!
Jack!

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Don't worry about it jack, I just asked the original question out of interest because I was on nights and had forgotten if it was the final, but fair play I was reminded correctly that it was the semi against juventus. It was 'just' a question just in case he became a Liverpool player. I went to bed and slept like a baby

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07 Jul 2014 23:39:57
Got to say its a relief to see Cashley Cole go to Roma. Some posters had me persuaded that we might actually be interested in him.

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Wonder whether he sacrificed some of his wages if if Roma sucked it up and just paid his asking price

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Sky reporting he's gone there and taken 37 k a week. if he was willing to go that low I would have taken him for two seasons. although I'm sure there were some ridiculous signing on fees to go with that

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07 Jul 2014 23:37:43
Cant believe people are slagging Markovic already, if we then miss out on him BR and Ayre will then be slated, can't win sometimes.
Regarding Markovic though the guy is raw talent, technically gifted, direct pacey and a very good dribbler. This kid has the potential to be special. I do think we could sign a more established player but if this guy comes and bulks up a little, improves on his final ball and finishing there's no doubt he would be an amazing signing, you have to give the guy credit for getting into that Benfica side, they are a very good team.

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If we had waited a year he would be a Chelsea player and those same people would be moaning. End of the day, he's one of, if not the, most exciting young players in Europe.

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Haven't seen enough of him I guess.

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Nobody knows what to expect, no one has really seen him play.
on you tube he looks like someone has got there finger on the fast foward button every time he gets the ball.

lets support him lads!

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07 Jul 2014 23:12:20
I know he's been mentioned a lot but surprised we have not shown any interest in Hummels especially considering Lovren price, I'm not moaning by the way just seems odd, i'd be very pleased with Lovren, to be honest.

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He will not be interested.

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08 Jul 2014 01:08:19
Why not?

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It's not impossible to believe Hummels would be interested, but that wouldn't be the main issue for any potential move in my opinion.

Dortmund don't need sell and Hummels is equally in no need to move or, at least has no huge intention of pushing for a move as of yet. If he did decide he wanted out of Dortmund, there is no club in the world that wouldn't be interested so we'd have to battle off the likes of PSG, Real, Barca, Manchester clubs etc, and seeing as David Luiz just fetched 40m, Hummels is likely to cost a hell of a lot!

Although if we pulled signing him off, Hummels and Sakho at CB for years to come doesn't half sound bad! He's the best CB around in my opinion and would have no qualms if we splashed upwards of 25m on him, however, its closer to being impossible than it being possible.

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The problem is nobody wants to go to a weaker side, or a side who can't double there wages, sanchez might have loved a chance to play alongside suarez and create a really special foward line with sturridge in there to.
But again just like last time we finished second and had a really good team! were selling the best player we have!

whats attractive about that?

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Benny C is bang on.

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08 Jul 2014 07:59:09
I don't know why do people rate hummels so highly , for me he would be taken to the cleaners in epl. he is not that a reliable CB and Dortmund too concede a high number of goals . he is far to immobile and can be beaten with such ease with simple footwork. also his injury record has been always there ,
I believe lovren is a fairly better option . considering is on ground ability , which is outstanding . he is very intelligent footballer. where as hummels has outstanding ability but he understanding of the game leaves a lot to be desired.

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Benny you seen to be rather bitter over the selling of suarez. It was an inevitability even before the bite, as ed2 has been saying for months his agent has been hawking him around ever since he signed the new contract. Better to just accept it and move on with the rest if us.

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@JB2 his agent was at that the summer before and he was himself too and we didn't sell him then. He's been such a PR disaster I think the last bite has left no way back with the owners.

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07 Jul 2014 23:02:01
Greetings all! Been a while since I've been on this site what a season we had!

Anyhu reason why i'm posting anyone a little concerned over our transfer business?

It justs seems like we are doing exactly what tottenham did when bale left Instead of replacing a world class player with another we are adding several players to our ranks,

I thought rodgers said we were going to be going after first team quality players now were back into the champions league isn't that what we need rather than more expensive youngsters who have potential?

I mean I might eat my words not to say they're not good enough or won't be good enough I just don't think it should be a priority this season surely focusing on the ones we have is a must then focusing the money we do have on proven quality. Especially when the ones including BR has signed haven't always come through as of yet Alberto Illori

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It's difficult though mate who's available? And not gunna cost 40m?
There will be another top signing I'm sure of it, we were trying to sign markovic & Sanchez, I expect there will be a forward player brought in once we figure out who and if they want to come.

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08 Jul 2014 00:22:39
Ed's can I have any hope in us signing both Markovic and Shaqiri. Or is it definitely a case of one or the other? Because with Saurez gone I think Shaqiri could get the amount of game time he would want, more than he would at Bayern for sure.
Cheers

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07 Jul 2014 21:42:43
Could the Eds shed some light on the Sanchez deal.

We have been told in the press that Sanchez had opted for Arsenal and yet we are still in talks with him (via chris branscombe)

Also why hasn't the deal with Suarez been agreed?

I just think that there is a wait due to Sanchez as Barca would prefer a player plus cash deal

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{Ed002's Note - No idea who he is.}

08 Jul 2014 08:14:30
Malaga defender Sergio Sánchez & Atletico midfielder Mario Suárez. Why Ed? WHY!?

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07 Jul 2014 22:59:25
Hi Eds,

Since we have have Sturridge and Lambert, and with the Suarez saga we will probaly be investing in more attacking players.
What's the future for Borini, Aspas and Yesil etc. at LFC? And has there been any interest for them by any clubs?

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Yersil is mulling over a loan to turkey, borini is wanted but wants to stay, aspas will go with the right bid.

I would give bornini and aspas the tours n pre season games in the window and time to be evaluated before the Decisions are made. Aspas was no where near good enough but wanted to stay. We shall see

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07 Jul 2014 22:13:28
Sorry eds, 2 posts in a matter of minutes but I really think the club need a 'marquee' (cue jokes) signing to not only replace Suarez, but restore belief that we are watching a team that is heading forward.
I thus want to start a little fantasy game. If you were given a day's contract to lead the clubs transfer dealings with the job description "secure a deal for world class, quality-proven attacking player using up to £50million and offering up to the salary Luis Suarez had" who would you look to?
I'd suggest the least likely names without looking ridiculous would be say Marco Reus, possibly more realistic Arda Turan or Gonzalo Higuain and other suggestions along the lines of Karim Benzema, Hulk and Thomas Muller.
I'm not suggesting we could sign any of them or even that I rate them particularly, just curios who posters see as able to replace he who is irreplaceable.

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{Ed002's Note - Obviously you are making stuff up - what would you want me to say.}

I don't get this. but 50 mil for turan.

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07 Jul 2014 21:54:35
Another 5-1 would be oh so sweet if Arsenal do sign Sanchez. So disappointed. How can a team managed by anyone as dull as Arsene Wenger seem a more attractive option than a side with one of, if not the, best attacking manager in the World. Our side is literally set up for him whilst Wenger won't utilise his dribbling ability to any degree of satisfaction.
There are occasions when my views on players joining us ahead of other clubs are biased, this is not one. I live in London, the general atmosphere of the North-West is so much more pleasant than the capital's.

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Arsene is a very good manager. Obviously, the capital has the pulling power, and if a player doesn't want to join us then so be it. Plenty more fish in the sea.

Red Rum

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What makes you think that wenger won't make us of his dribbling ability?

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