Liverpool Banter Archive July 08 2013

08 Jul 2013 23:13:42
benteke hands in transfer request another battle with spurs then but only if were interested.Tommy Irish Red

08 Jul 2013 23:51:48
Brace for impact, lads.

And by "impact" I mean potentially weeks of:

"Eds, any word on Benteke?"
"What are our chances out of 10 of signing Benteke?"
"If we don't sign Benteke we should just shut the club down right now!"
"Why isn't Brendan signing Benteke?"
"Are Spurs going to steal another target in the form of Benteke?"
"Benteke isn't the player we need. We should sign Munain instead."

You need to get over yourself. You forgot to include:
a) If we don't get Benteke, do you reckon we might go in for Honda?
b) Have you heard anything about Arda Turan?
c) What are the chances that if Benteke moves to Spurs, we can get a Bale + Cash bid for Downing?
d) Any news on Thiago Alcantara and Benteke in exchange for Skrtel and Sturridge?

Thank God I am not an Ed on this site.

09 Jul 2013 08:56:19
Both of you should get off your high horses.
It will be like this.

1.I am so gutted we lost out on Benteke.
2.How come FSG didn't pay the cash.
3.We have no ambition.
4.We always go Bargain Hunting and Benteke is a steal.
5.Benteke is Andy Carroll.
6.Benteke is overpriced.
7.Benteke is a huge risk.
8.Who is Jorginho? Why don't we sign Benteke.

Just to inform you, that Benteke handed a transfer request has nothing to do with Liverpool.
But it has everything to do with Arsenal.

Malak

09 Jul 2013 09:57:55
Haha that's EXACTLY what's going to happen on here. The pages are going to be flooded!

08 Jul 2013 23:02:30
Here comes the Benteke brigade for the next few weeks! Saying that it'll be nice to hear the moaners going on and on and on about HM!

08 Jul 2013 22:55:03
Benteke in with a transfer request, we will move for him after missing out to MH but spurs and arsenal favourites

25 million is the figure needed to prise him away

Is he worth it and is he what we need .yes and yes for me

Daniellambretta

Not a chance of him moving to anfield especially with chelsea and spurs interested

08 Jul 2013 22:51:32
Before the flocks start. where do u see benteke going eds? Any chance we may become interested? {Ed002's Note - I am not going to guess.}

I will.
Spurs.!
He will be at Spurs by the end of the month.

Red7.

08 Jul 2013 22:50:33
Benteke transfer request any chance?

Stvmondo

Bst site well done eds

08 Jul 2013 22:49:10
Benteke hands in transfer request, I can see us moving for him if LS goes

source: tv, {Ed030's Note - I knew this was coming,an inquiry was made but nothing came of it. }

Ed030, you knew this was coming.do you suspect we are interested and this has something to do with us? {Ed030's Note - No I mean the Benteke rumours mate,They will stay for abit now as he handed in a transfer request. }

08 Jul 2013 23:17:06
Great name mate;) hehe

I think things could progess very quickly depending on who is interested, could be a good tussle.

BKP

08 Jul 2013 22:33:42
Can one of the ED's please give an informed and comprehensive explanation as to what happened with the mickey transfer? There's been a lot of hot air and inadequate facts. Third party ownership, mafia involvement, player greed, LFC being prudent and thrifty, Ian Ayre messing up the deal (that one is totally believable) and so on and so forth. Please someone give me some facts so I can sleep properly again. Thanks in advance {Ed002's Note - THis has ben covered but in simple terms Liverpool did not make an acceptable offer to buy him.}

Fact is he ain't coming! Get over it!

08 Jul 2013 21:43:15
Yet another classic Arsenal ploy to placate their fans, safe in the knowledge that they won't have to spend the amount of money required to get the player - they reveal to the press they have bid for a player - 2 come to mind in the last week Higuain and now Saurez - RM deny any offer, and nothing from LFC confirming an offer or a rejection.

Actually arsenal never reveal their dealings and I heard on talk shi$te yesturday it was Liverpool who released the info.if this is true maybe Liverpool are putting it out there to drum up more interest/more money.maybe an edd would know a little more about it
trev the gooner

09 Jul 2013 09:06:54{Ed052's Note - Oi, no name. Abuse like that's not accepted, and if you think that guy is deluded to say Suarez will move to Arsenal, then your the stupid one - I wouldn't rule it out}

Probably Suarez' agent, gooner man.
The Juicer

08 Jul 2013 21:36:18
Evening Eds - What's the chances of going for Yevhen Konoplyanka? Have the club shown any interest in him? I'd have gone for him ahead of HM personally.
Cheers
The Goatherder
JFT96 {Ed002's Note - Search engine please.}

08 Jul 2013 21:29:12
There is a lot of varied opinion with regards to the clubs transfer activity till now. Most people seem to be underwhelmed with the names we have signed. But I feel that the club have taken some positive steps early in this window, especially by wrapping up four deals very soon - the only deal I would question is the Alberto one, purely due to the fee paid which seems to be on the high side for a reserve player (but then again its not my money being spent).
Clearly HM was identified as being a player who would excite the fans and slot straight into the first team but that deal has passed us by.
The club will no doubt have other targets who they will move onto but the issue with Suarez needs to get resolved asap to allow us to move on but having read comments from the eds I fear this Suarez saga could drag on. Whatever happens I just hope that BR gets it right because as a player Suarez is superb and he will take some replacing whether that is with one or two players.

08 Jul 2013 21:13:35
Hi eds sorry if you have answered this before but towards the end of last season ( can't remember what game it was ) I heard one of the commentators saying that the ffp rules are being taken to court for some reason . He was talking about teams signing players then said it might not matter as ffp are in the hands of the courts . Have you heard anything? Cheers
YNWA
Jamesy {Ed002's Note - Now is not the tme to ask me to explain this - try at the weekend.}

08 Jul 2013 20:55:19
Eds do you still expect Ilori? And do you expect Jorginho? Thanks guys. {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

08 Jul 2013 20:41:27
Moan moan moan, depressin. Just look forward to watchin the reds when season start. Were all Liverpool fans and I bet were all itchin for season to kick off. Just support the club and the players that are here at the end of the window.

08 Jul 2013 13:49:19
A question for any LFC supporting Ed

How many more signings do you reckon we need more to able to atleast challenge for top 4 or have a complete squad meaning decent back-up for each area?
I reckon we need atleast 3 more IF SUAREZ STAYS
A top class goal scoring CAM - which showed by our interest in Mkhi
OR a top notch winger like Sanchez if BR would rather use Coutinho at CAM.
Either of the above should be a top class 15-20 million player not mainly based on price but on quality.
A decent Coates replacement likely to be Illori.
A back-up LB as Enrique does seem to get injured a lot- I would take Cissokho or Alberto Monero.

On the other hand if/when Suarez leaves for say 40 million pounds
we need to add another top player maybe Konoplyanka or Wijnaldum.
and maybe Papa (in addition to selling Skrtel) as we will have the funds. {Ed030's Note - I think 3 would do it,Konoplyanka would be a good shout for an attacking midfielder,Maybe after that a DM and a Cb. }

08 Jul 2013 20:33:28
Eds, Is this Artur Petrosyan on twitter the real deal or just another douch that tries to round people up?

I see that he talk about Man City also showed some interest in MK?!
And that Liverpool FC had an agreement with MK personally. He seems quite angry at LFC.

Is any if this true? {Ed002's Note - No idea man. All I do on Twitter is help JonJonJo and Pepe with their spelling.}

Thanks for det answer Ed. :-)
Sorry for the question about something from The main douch rumours place online. personter or what its called. ;-)

Again. Thanks.

08 Jul 2013 20:04:35
Player profile on jorghino eds? {Ed002's Note - Try asking on the profiles page.}

08 Jul 2013 19:50:58
Could the situation regarding Arsenal offering £30m for Suarez be something to do with Higuian? I mean if Arsenal are truly interested in Higuian could Real ask for them to put in A bid for Suarez to see how much LFC will accept for Suarez? paving the way for the Higuian to go to Arsenal and Suarez to Real or am I looking into it A bit much? {Ed002's Note - No. It is not a conspiracy. It is Arsenal keeping their options open. Suarez is not "special" - at least not in this way.}

Well at least other clubs will know that will have to bid a fair amount more than 30 million. But I do find it odd that arsenal have placed a bid for suarez based on his antics and recent comments in the media. Ed, do you think that arsenal will come back with a second bid {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}

08 Jul 2013 19:42:15
RedSox69 {Ed002's Note - It was posted once when you sent it in originally a ay or two back - please don't send in in again.}

08 Jul 2013 19:18:48
Hi ed, first post but been an avid fan for a long time. I'm getting really angry about the LS saga! The guy has blamed the UK media for hounding him out of the country, so how come Arsenal have reportedly made a bid for him? What even made them think to bid? Has and London suddenly become part of Spain? I'm worried that we're being viewed as a feeder club for the Prem teams currently above us. Can you explain? {Ed002's Note - Suarez does not control who has an interest in him. Try to get out of teh mindset of Suarez being in any way "special". Where was all of this whining when Liverpool sold JonJonJo to Swansea?}

There wasn't all the whining because he's nowhere near as good a player as Suarez. Few are.

08 Jul 2013 18:53:32
Glass half full: BR now knows what the squad can do, new players always add extra in terms of effort and the fight for places, Sterling, Suso, Allen, Lucas, Kelly, Wisdom, Sturridge etc all potentially better, good style of footy. More consistency and some more players in when the little biter goes! New managers at the other clubs! Going to be a good season.

EVO YNWA

We are getting worse by the year. Change the shirt to claret and blue and it will be like watching west ham. Actually that's to harsh on west ham. Who have owners with ambition.

08 jul 2013 19:43:28
no excuses this time. top four guaranteed!

Can't have a go at Hammers. they bought a 35m player for 15m. bargain!

08 Jul 2013 18:18:56
Official on the Dortmund website.
Mkhitaryan signs until 2017.
25 million euros.

Maybe Brenda should not have wasted 15 million on Allen we might have had enough to get him.

08 Jul 2013 19:24:38
Don't understand how my post has anything to do with Joe Allen who plays a complete different role and in my opinion will come a very good player for us!
Was just informing what read. In my opinion if the club didn't think he is worth the risk who am I to question their judgment. Just hope they have Liverpool's best interest at heart.

We offered the asking price that shaktar wanted but the player didn't want to join us, he never intended to join us, it was never going to happen! {Ed002's Note - Or not as the case may be.}

I don't see it on the website

We most probably didn't have that sort of money to spend in the first place so our interest ended as soon as we enquired.

So far this window it looks like we have to sell as we buy.

I think we as fans need to start to lower our expectations in terms of transfers under the current ownership and not being in Europe.

Simon O

08 Jul 2013 18:13:37
Has ed considered that the arsenal bid for Suarez maybe Liverpool and arsenal messing with Real Madrid and getting them to actually start getting their wallet out. How often do Spanish clubs tempt prem players then play the waiting game so we have to sell late on in the window for less than they are actually worth. I think arsenal want higuain and bidding for Suarez will make real act more quickly than they want and pay more for luis. ultimately this will be for the benefit of arsenal as this will force madrids hand to sell higuain. I would expect an improved arsenal offer in the coming days just so Madrid get the message. {Ed002's Note - Why does everything have to be a conspitacy for you? Have you considered it is just like any other transfer and Arsenal are looking to see if they can have a low offer accepted?}

08 Jul 2013 18:11:44
source; sports direct monday 8th july 2013

Luis Suarez's agent has had clear the air talks with Liverpool - as Arsenal hover for the Uruguayan star.

Suarez's adviser Per Guardiola met both manager Brendan Rodgers and chief executive Iain Eyre to speak about the unsettled star.
Arsenal have made a high-level approach to the club's American owners and been rejected. But the interest remains.

However Guardiola assured Liverpool that Suarez will not rock the boat and is willing to wait to see if any buyer reaches the magic £40 million figure for him.

Suarez is on holiday after a busy spell with his national team and will miss the start of the season as he serves a ban for biting.
But the future of the striker could be settled sooner if the right offer is made, although Arsenal are well short of the valuation.

After the round of talks Liverpool are relaxed about what happens next as Suarez and Guardiola will quietly test the market and see if there is a giant bid - or if he stays.


Hi ED what's your thoughts. {Ed002's Note - Guardiola will there to assure the club taht Suarz will not carry out his threat not to show up for training on the 22nd and to make it clear that they will not submit a transfer request so they can make even more money out of the club.}

'source; sports direct'

This is the point at which I stopped reading.

RedKopite

08 Jul 2013 19:16:24
Thanks ED and keep up the great work .

So what Guardiola has actually said is, his client still wants to leave, but is not prepared to lose out by asking submitting a transfer request, and will make some effort in trying to find a buyer that is prepared to offer somewhere near the £40m asking price, but it's all ok because his client won't be going on strike, not yet anyway. Glad he put that one straight then.

08 Jul 2013 18:05:50
hi eds
any interest in jerome boetang? {Ed002's Note - Not from Liverpool.}

08 Jul 2013 17:58:07
Outs : Henderson, Downing, Assaidi, Borini, Skrtel, Reina(high wages),

In: keep Suarez, Ben Arfa, Eriksen, Papa/Toby, Wanyama

thats what Rodgers should do. it kills me from inside, when I see some Jorginho linked for 8 m.

It kills me inside when I see 'supporters' like you writing off players like henderson who's come leaps and bounds since last season. He was the 2nd best (behind Lampard) english midfielder in the PL in terms of goals and assists per min. And to write off Borini who's hardly been able to play because of injuries is very unfair on the lad. I wonder if you've learnt your lesson from Lucas like the majority of supporters have.

08 Jul 2013 18:56:38
Nonsense outs.
Nonsense ins.
Nonsense opinion on Jorginho.

Why does it kill you, do you know something most of the rest of us don't? Did it kill you when we were linked with Sturridge and Coutinho?

Get rid of our most improved player last season (Henderson), a striker that now fit, has had good performance for the Italy U21's, looks sharp, great potential, but has only played for us a handful of games for us to date. The other outs I probably agree with. Ins, Suarez, no, unless he came out, said "I've made a terrible mistake, I love Liverpool and England", apologised for his unacceptable behaviour this summer, and vowed to pledge 100% loyalty to the club for the rest of his career, Ben Arfa, for me risky, and Wanyama would either have to replace Lucas or Stevie, no thanks. Possibly if we were playing 4-4-2 diamond, a backup or improvement for Lucas would be needed, but he's not an improvement and a very expensive 10m backup.

'it kills me inside when I see Jorginho linked'.?

FYI.

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger was said to be tracking Jorginho during the January transfer window, after a recommendation from Italy-based scout Tony Banfield.

Meanwhile, it has been reported more recently that Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United and AC Milan are all monitoring his progress.

Sambafooty.com

08 Jul 2013 19:19:49
Sell Hendo & Downing and replace one of them with a sicknote like Ben Arfa? Right. Okay.

Here's a fun fact: Since Ben Arfa's transfer to Newcastle, he's gotten less assists in the PL than Downing in the same period. Even with Downing's duck egg in his first season here.

Even if he's brilliant (and he's not, btw, he's good, but not brilliant) Ben Arfa's no use to anyone when he's injured or not "100% match fit" half the time.

Guy is talking good lads, we NEED to do the right thing. Borini is mediocre player, so is Henderson, don't you see it? Yea, 2nd best english midfielder, name everyone in the PL who is good, England national team is the example of that. Hendo is afraid to pass forward, 90% of his passes are left/right and backward. Wake up, it is you who are talking nonsense. no arguments.

08 Jul 2013 21:26:03
Obviously we don't see it. To be completely honest you talk complete gibberish and I am pretty sure you need glasses because you are
1.Blind
2.Short-sighted
3.Expect a player to be brilliant when in fact he is out injured.

Definitely keep Henderson. On a side note surely Gerrard had better stats, even per minute? Anyway I agree keep him, massive improvement

08 Jul 2013 17:53:02
I've heard a rumour. If Suarez goes to Arsenal he'll be able to tell Walcott, Sanga, Ramsey and others what it's like to win a trophy in top flight English football. :)

You are joking aren't you?

08 Jul 2013 17:50:55
If Suarez ends up playing for another premier league side it would b interesting to see what that clubs fans think about it given the amount of baggage Suarez carries around. Certainly Liverpool fans mostly stuck by him although realising the biting incident was a step too far. Outside of Liverpool I would say he is not popular to say the least amongst pl fans for many reasons. wonder if their opinions change if he signed for their club?

08 Jul 2013 17:32:45
Ed do you think LFC may look at Sanchez as a possible alternative to Mkhitaryan? also the independant have said today that Jorginho if signed by us will be loaned to another premier league club so he could hardly be signed instead of Mhkitaryan Cheers ed {Ed052's Note - Joginho maybe, Sanchez, no}

Is the Maybe for Jorginho about him being signed or about him being loaned out?

08 Jul 2013 17:26:54
Hi eds a question (1) do u think our comments we put here reach the fsg and brendan Rodger (2) also do Liverpool have interest in lamela young maxi {Ed052's Note - No, but its said clubs look at sites. No}

08 Jul 2013 17:20:58
kaka not in the madrid squad this season and has been told he can leave. was a unbelievable player in his milan days made a mistake going to madrid. maybe we could get him and maybe he would except a normal wage. could be a win win for us if we get him back playing like he use too. and it safe us a transfer fee. malta

And when exactly is the last time he played well? Joe Cole was fantastic 3-4 years before we got him, he was free except for his huge wages and signing on fee. That worked out terrible. Joe Cole was never at Kaka's level but I see a similarity in that Kaka has not been at Kaka's level for about 4 years.

08 Jul 2013 17:05:24
I have been trying to not get caught up in the whole Suarez
And MK situation but I can't hold back anymore.

All those so called fans moaning that FSG and Rodgers didn't get MK are deluded we was in the brink of financial disaster only a short time ago and you want the owners to go and spend silly money on a player not matter the consequence, you need to realise that if you pay a fee of 20 mil for a player there are other high costs in involved to go on top of that.

As for Suarez get off his back he may of been silly with a few things he has said but please don't try and tell me that every other human being hasn't done the same at some point in your life, he is world class and whatever he chooses to do I for one will wish him well, unfortunately this is football and these things happen.

Whoever comes and goes from our Great Club we all need to remember we support Liverpool Fc not just an individual.

Richiered

I have no problem with him wanting to leave, if he wants to go then fine but if he goes to another prem league team after everything he has said about the english media then in my eyes he is 10 times worse than torres and I called torres a traitorous little ******* when he handed in his transfer request

Torres Suarez. There all after one thing and that's money. You can't tell me that Torres is proud of his Chelsea career, he's lived in the shadow of Drogba and has been handed every decent medal he's got thanks to other players. But he will do all his best to stay because no other side will match his ridiculous wages. One thing is you've got to understand these players don't support Liverpool, they don't love Liverpool like we do. It's about time the club start putting the club first and not the players. let's do what's best for Liverpool Football Club and not for Luis Suarez. If we can't get £50million for him then he stays put end of, because we won't get a better player, even though he is a bit of a w***er he's still one of the best players in the world. Club comes first

08 Jul 2013 17:01:06
Alonso just ruled out a return to the premier league. Dunno if he's obligated to say it or not. Bring in Digne and Hamsik! {Ed052's Note -Yes, because those 2 are really realistic signings}

08 Jul 2013 16:47:33
Here is an roundup or summary if you will :

Jorginho {Ed002's Note - It makes some sense if Liverpool are done chasing Mkhitaryan.}

Christian Eriksen {Ed002's Note - I don't think Eriksen was ever going to happen. }

Alonso {Ed002's Note - Alonso may be available but I am not aware of interest from Liverpool.}

Hamsik {Ed002's Note - No.}

Gaitan {Ed002's Note - Gaitan, no - he will be expensive and is likely to move elsewhere. PSG and Manchester City remain keen on the signing of Miralem Pjanic. Spurs are aware that he could be available at the right price - but that is very high. Another English side have also made an enquiry, but it is not Liverpool. He was one of the players being considered by Dortmund as a replacement for Goertze. }

Sanchez {Ed002's Note - Attempts to buy Sanchez last summer were met by a 40M euro asking price although I suspect 25-30M euro will be nearer to what will be paid in summer for him if a buyer can be found this summer. Juventus had very clear targets and a significant budget to buy a player to play off their main striker, Llorente, but have opted for another solution. The only other confirmed interest is from Inter who are putting together a rather ambitious loan-to-buy deal for Sanchez. Try the search engine on Skrtel as I recently provided an update.}

Cissokho {Ed002's Note - In the past there has been interest. Cissokho is subject to interest from Lokomotiv Moskou of Kuban Krasnodar and speculation that Liverpool might again be interested as well.}

Gerard Deulofeu {Ed002's Note - Gerard Deulofeu was one of the two Barcelona players who was discussed between Barcelona and Chelsea clubs earlier this year and Chelsea were told he would not be sold. Offers from Espanyol and Bayer Leverkusen have been rejected. If a sale is possible, expect interest from Bayern Munich and also an approach from Txiki Begiristain on behalf of Manchester City. Real Betis, Everton, Spurs and Roma are all interested in taking the player on loan.}

Boateng {Ed002's Note - Boateng is available but there seems to be little or no interest at this time.}

Ben Arfa {Ed002's Note - Newcastle has done a fantastic job in sorting out Ben Arfa over the past 18 months. There was a time when it looked like Marseille were just going to give up on him. I recall my wife saying that Bursaspor offered to take him on loan and it was seriously considered before his moving to Newcastle. Arsenal and Schalke have shown an interest but in the unlikely event Newcastle were to make the player available this summer then I would think PSG would be the desired destination for Ben Arfa.}

Arda Turan {Ed002's Note - Arda was certainly looked at by Liverpool back in the day but clearly those that were in control of transfers did not progress any initial interest. Eventually he moved to Spain. We knew very early on that he would be leaving Galatasaray for Atletico Madrid once money had been freed up through the sale of Aguero - although there was strong interest from elsewhere. If Arda Turan were to move this summer the likely destinations are Turkey, England, Germany and Italy - with sustained interest from Germany with both Bayern Munich and Schalke 04 declaring they would like to take the player and from his former club Galatasaray. Atletico Madrid previously rejected a move from Schalke saying they did not want to sell in January and they would ideally like to keep him for at least another year.}

Muniain {Ed002's Note - Not as far as I am aware from Liverpool. I can see interest from several English clubs should be become available. Lyon, Bayern Munich, Napoli and Roma have sustained interest which may still be there but I could not see a cash deal involving Lyon as possible at this time. Rumours abound of Juventus and Palermo interest. It was thought an eventual move to Barcelona would happen, although his performances this past season have not been good at all and his temper has gotten the better of him again on more than one occasion. With his value dropping all of the time Athletic might well look to extending his contract.}

Dzsudzsak {Ed002's Note - I suspect it is an old story being recycled, but Liverpool showed interest in Dzsudzsak whilst at PSV and again in January when the club enquired after a loan. More recently Inter, Schalke and Parma have shown an interest. It would certainly not be out of the question.}

Bony {Ed002's Note - Recently there been varying degrees of interest from Swansea, Marseille, Newcastle, Anzhi, West Ham, Everton and a couple of German sides (Hamburg and Schalke) but of these only Swansea have put a bid on the table that is close to being acceptable. It would not be a surprise to see interest from other teams if a deal cannot be done with Swansea - perhaps Liverpool and just possibly Napoli and Roma. The player has said he would like to join Chelsea. Whilst an offer was made by Newcastle in January, the player was wanting to see if there was serious interest from Russia and it is still not out of the question that Anzhi will come in with a significant bid. For now, it looks very likely that Swansea could win out.}

Mkhitaryan {Ed002's Note - Nothing has been finalised at this time ( to Dortmund ) but right now it looks like it will happen. There is zero point in my trying to explain the detail today.}

Thiago {Ed002's Note - And not moving to Liverpool. Three clubs have expressed an interest in addition to Barcelona wanting him to stay.}

Lamela {Ed002's Note - I am afraid to say that Lamela won't be moving to Liverpool.}

Lukaku {Ed002's Note - Nope.}

Cavani {Ed002's Note - Keep dreaming.}

Honda {Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not shown any recent interest in Honda and he is close to a move to Milan.}

Alderweireld {Ed002's Note - I expected Alderweireld to go to Spurs to replace Gallas or Roma to replace Marquinhos and I would not discount either club showing an interest in him still. Liverpool decided the asking price was too high, but it is certainly less than that being asked for Papadopoulos. It looked likely that a move to Bayer Leverkusen would go ahead but they too see him as over priced. Maybe Liverpool will look to him again if Skrtel or Agger move on. Norwich have made an enquiry with Ajax and Arsenal may well show some interest if he is still available later in the summer.}

Ilori {Ed002's Note - There is interest in Ilori, so maybe. }

Moreno {Ed002's Note - I don't know of interest in Moreno.}

Papadopoulos {Ed002's Note - I suspect one cheap in Ilori plus one other. Manchester City, Dortmund and Chelsea were surprised how high the asking price for Papadopoulos was and walked away.}

Sakho {Ed002's Note - Sakho is on the list of targets for Monaco. Arsenal and Lyon have sustained interest in Sakho and there is some interest from Newcastle, Inter Milan, Manchester City and possible interest lingering interest from Real Madrid and Barcelona. Baader has explained that AC Milan and Liverpool have recently enquired about his availability but PSG are not keen on selling and the player is keen to stay.}

Atsu - Deal is dead

Hulk - No

Rooney - No

Torres - No

Hazard - No

Mata - No

Tevez - No

Neymar, Messi, Ibrahimovic, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho and so on . NO

So please save the Eds some time, and don't ask all the same questions over and over and over and over. Wait for something to happen or wait for one of the eds to tell us when they know something. Please.

Have a great one lads! YNWA {Ed052's Note - Fantastic mate - thats great. SO basically, only Joginho and Dzuzdak are options from that list. While we all know the problems of the Ilori deal!}

How about Darren Bent? Before Chris asks ;-))

08 Jul 2013 16:41:39
Hi all

Is it right that Honda is on a free and seeing as we have missed out on Mickey surely this is a no brainer. I thought we was after him a season or 2 ago and was willing to pump up about 12 million for him so to get him on a free now would be remarkable. {Ed052's Note - No. Its not right that he is on a fee. Why is it a no brainer?? A season or 2 ago he had 2.5 years on his contract, hence a higher fee. (And he was alos playing better)

Great post.

08 Jul 2013 16:29:28
Have we ever had any interest in Valbuena? I feel like he would be a great addition to any team. {Ed052's Note - No}

08 Jul 2013 16:28:20
Who's the main target, now that we've lost out on Henrikh Mkhitaryan? {Ed052's Note - Mickey was never a 'main target'. People think that because he was our most expensive target - but cost doesn't relate to importance}

Ed52 that's the best response to a post I've seen on here I think {Ed052's Note - Cheers bud}

Thats a fantastic reply ED052!
Should be framed right on top of the site under the new search bar.
''COST DOES NOT RELATE TO IMPORTANCE''
Ah amazing :)
RedSox69

What position is our main target then?

More importantly, what cost is our main target :-)

Hi Ed52, just from your opinion who do you think has been our best signing this summer so far and who do you most want to see play? Also, would you think BR has 'main targets' or would be more focused on improving certain positions and have a list of several options they would be happy with. Appreciate your time and thoughts and great work on the site by the way, cheers Bryan {Ed052's Note - I think Toure has been the best - because he brings everything we need into the centre of defence. Experience, leadership etc, and his athletic attributes are great too. I'm looking forward to seeing them all play - and its hard to choose between - but most its Aspas and Alberto.I'm not sure about a 'main target' but if these first 4 signings are anything to go by, then the Suarez replacement will be great.}

08 Jul 2013 16:21:07
Hey Eds, Great site! Been a follower for a long time now,

Just wanted to ask with Mkhitaryan off to Dortmund will out attention turn back to Eriksen or will we be looking elsewhere?

Thanks for you time! {Ed052's Note - Looking elsewhere}

08 Jul 2013 16:16:44
Hi Eds

having read M's earlier post, have you ever thought about adding another page to this website, something along the lines of 'whingers and trolls'. That way the rest of us could read the Liverpool Banter and Rumour posts without feeling the need to call the Samaritans afterwards.

don't know how you put up with it - but I'm glad you do. Your work is appreciated by the majority of us posters.

NCCRed {Ed052's Note - We have enough pages - in all seriousness. There was nothing offensive or against the rules in the post - so it has to go up.}

08 Jul 2013 16:08:29
David Villa going to Athletico Madrid

Good, he's too good for Spurs and Arsenal

£1.8m rising to £4.4m if he stays for the full three seasons. Dirt cheap.

Disney!

And why? this is Liverpool rumours not Barcelona rumours!

08 Jul 2013 15:49:32
So if Suarez is absolutely 100% gone like the ed's suggest, Why would we hold out splashing on Mkhitaryan?

Good point!

Hardy1892

Because:

1. We think he is over priced
2. The player does not want to play for us
3. The ownership issues can't be resolved to meet English requirements (may be worng Eds but is different in Germany?)
4. Any number of other reasons everyone may be unaware of.

Just becase he doesn't sign, doesn't immediately make it the fault of BR/IA/FSG. {Ed052's Note - 3. I don't know if its different in Germany, sorry, but it was an issue for us}

One of the problems with this approach is once we have 'splashed
out' YOU will be saying why do we always overpay!

Puzzled

Because we haven't sell suarez yet, that's why

08 Jul 2013 15:40:43
Hi eds, am I going crazy or did I just read that hamsik is likely to go to Liverpool! HAMSIK? Surely this is lies that I am reading!? If its not, would Napoli accept £32m for him?
Thanks! {Ed019's Note - No}

08 Jul 2013 15:38:03
Liverpool to bid £32m for Napoli star Hamsik

Hope not! Don't rate him at all!

If we were reluctant to go over 20m for Mkhitaryan why would go bid that much for Hamsik?

08 Jul 2013 15:21:24
Selling Suarez to Chelsea Man U or man city would be no problem to me. There already way futher ahead than us. Selling him to arsenal would be a disaster it would throw top 4 out the window. If FSG decide to eccept an improved 40m offer from arsenal then we know what there intentions are. Making money! And not the well being if Liverpool!

Agree with Chelsea or Man c but not Man U! I want them to fall from grace now. sad but I hope they never win the premier league again.

Off with their heads! They pulled us out of a terrible financial situation. They clearly aren't just in it to make money. Please talk with some sense

Please get a life and stop this money making nonsense.

In the theoretical situation where he wants to leave, hands in a transfer request, but only Arsenal bid, what would you do? keep him out of spite?

Arsenal is a joke. 20m for Rooney and now 30m for Suarez? It seems like Arsene is doing it just to please the fans even though he's got no hope.

08 Jul 2013 14:51:16
Hi Eds

I'm sure this question has been answered but I used the search function and cannot find an answer.

1. Do you think chelsea have serious interest in Suarez?

personally I think Chelsea want to keep hold of De Bruyne and Lukaku (2 players I would love) but I was thinking perhaps they could use Lucas Paizon in the negotiations.

Do you think with the competition in Paizon's position at Chelsea that this could happen (as I hear Liverpool have some level of interest) or are Chelsea keen to keep hold of the player to see how he progresses.

Davey Sulls {Ed052's Note - I don't believe Chelsea do, or will have interest in him. Liverpool wont be singing Piazon}

08 Jul 2013 15:42:22
I agree ed052.
I don't like this new hipster music the teens play nowadays. Beaver & Piazon. {Ed052's Note - haha}

08 Jul 2013 14:37:53
New Real Madrid coach Carlo Ancelotti wants to keep Gonzalo Higuain rather than try to sign either Luis Suarez or Edinson Cavani. He will sit down with the Arsenal target next Monday, according to Spanish newspaper AS.

08 Jul 2013 14:14:49
The enquiry about Gylfi is hopefully speculation. Every time I watched him play last year it was far from impressive. Also, with the Suarez saga, I'm starting to think he's pulling a Stevie G. Of course, they are two different players and Stevie G is probably the best pool player ever. Anyways, is the siggurdson rumor true eds? Also, who is looking at Reus? He dominated UCL last year.

Gylfi by all accounts had a good season when called upon according to spurs fans! I personally would like him here but I don't think he would be interested in joining!

08 Jul 2013 13:58:43
According to , Mhkitaryan is having a medical at Dortmund right now.

Don't worry, he just enjoys having medical exams. He's just caching up to the 4 medicals and 7 flights to Liverpool

08 Jul 2013 13:53:57
Eds, do you think it realistic that Arsenal had spoken to Luis agent Guadiola and been given an indication that Luis would go to Arsenal for them to make an actual bid? Was under the impression that generally clubs would find out first and foremost whether a player would be susceptible to a move via their agent before potentially putting a bid in?
Just seems a bit strange, as other posters have said, that Arsenal would try and bid for a player whom apparently doesn't want to play in this country because of the "media" and yet Arsenal still bid? More to this than on the surface I think. What do other fans think? Eds?
Scouserjohnny {Ed002's Note - I would not over complicate a simple matter.}

Honestly speaking Ed after a lot of ignorance I think a lot of fans have accepted the fact that Suarez may move on this window. But the only logical and smart thing that LFC can do at the moment is force the sale abroad. I don't care if its PSG, Monaco, Bayern or Madrid but it has to be abroad. We genuinely just have to reject all offers from within PL no matter the money involved. As you can see with Torres, a lot of fans still want him back and its mostly due to them seeing him constantly at Chelsea. So I genuinely hope the one thing the club gets right this summer is to sell Suarez abroad.

08 Jul 2013 13:47:09
hi eds,

thought I post a comment that no1 else has asked. will suarez leave this summer?

MITCH

08 Jul 2013 13:33:22
Are the rumours about gylfi wanting out of spurs true for more playing time? Rumours saying Rodgers might be interested if it were a loan I think that would be a good deal.

08 Jul 2013 14:02:53
Seriously?. He was ripped apart here by us and you would welcome him again?

Really?. a player who was spouting about joining Lpool then as soon as Spurs offered a few grand more a week he was off.

I don't want players like him and all so he can sit on the bench. Who is he going to force out the team?

No he isn't nor wasn't good enough in the 1st place.

NO! He turned his back on us for more money, regardless of what he said. He can rot in the spuds reserves for all I care!

I always liked Gylfi myself. Prefer to buy him though and when he's played through the centre for Spurs, he's looked quite good.

Plus he has always done superbly well under Rodgers. Seems to know how to get the best out of him.

Price is everything with this one though. Certainly wouldn't want to go over 7/8 mill for him.

Davey Sulls

Don't want him anywhere near our club. he made his bed last year. he can sleep at spurs

08 Jul 2013 14:47:00
Lets be honest. If you look at the facts and stats. He was better than henderson last seaosn. looked real good playin in the center, scored some goals and was very effective as a sub, After all, they bought him for just 7 mill.

Poor performer, just let him rot. Why should we take Spurs' cast offs. He made his choice, he can suck it up.
ND

08 Jul 2013 15:41:21
I want to see what happens with this Brazil/Italian CAM fella before I start thinking about Gylfi even though I still think he's a turd for turning his back on us for an extra couple of grand a week. Like Davey posted above no more than £6M for him.

Harry you are correct BUT he is happy and doesn't want out! nore do spurs want to sell! However dempsey who was another tar3last term will be allowed to leave!

Harry Scousser

How is Sigurdsson better than Henderson based on "facts and stats".

Sigurdsson: 33 PL games, 3 goals & 4 assists.

Henderson: 30 PL games, 5 goals & 4 assists.

You judged Henderson based on his transfer fee. Pathetic.

The real AG

08 Jul 2013 17:46:52
Well said THE REAL AG. I agree with you there.

ACHILLES.

08 Jul 2013 13:41:43
I see Suarez is the top story again.

Can I just say, I don't want him sold because he is a bad player, and I don't mind if he stays. But what I do mind is the fact he is not good enough to play as the main striker. He doesn't even for Uruguay. He plays as a support striker to Cavani (and Suarez is still good enough to outscore Cavani from this position). Its where he belongs. On the right side of a front 3. The problem is, we can't play suarez there because Johnson is so suspect position wise, he needs a more defensive player in front of him (aka Downing, Kuyt etc), somebody who will bust a nut to get back and cover for him. Suarez is very passionate, and chases down lost causes, but only ever in one direction. He doesn't track back that much. Quite frankly, I'm not sure I'd be comfortable if he was back in and around our penaly area anyway, with all his controversy. So the question is, if he stays, what do we do with him? Well Sturridge is far superior as the main striker. He is fast which forces the opposition to sit deeper, strong which makes him a better hold up player, and has twice as good a conversion rate. Aspas will likely play down the right (which will eventually result in Johnson being droped in my opinion, unless he learns to stay in position better). With the choice not to pursue Mkhitaryan, Suarez could play behind Sturridge, but again, Henrikh does a lot of tracking back, and can act as a 3rd midfielder. Coutinho will likely take this role now in my opinion, and we will seek a left forward. UNLESS Suarez takes this position. He would naturally drift in onto his right foot (and we've seen he can unleash devastating curled shots doing this) allowing Enrique to get up the flank as he does. Suarez would be very good here, and could become that goalscoring wide player we all crave. He just doesn't have the composure to play in the middle. If you think otherwise, explain how you can justify 23 goals in 187 shots? Its pitiful. He panics in front of goal and lashes it too often. He seems to excell at chances he has no right to score though, making him more suited to a support role in the front 3/4.

If he is sold, which I would prefer, then I want the fee he is worth. Judging him purely as a player, and with his ability to fit into a more direct system (like Uruguays) he is worth £40-50m. However, his style does not suit ours. He is erratic, wasteful and very greedy. He would however be excellent in a direct side like Madrid, PSG and others. We cannot spend 5 minutes buidling up an attack though, only to have Suarez run into a defender and see it all break down. Suarez is so good at what he does, he will score in any team. But I still stand by my opinion, that we could be a better side without him. 23 goals and 3 assists could easily be traded for 10 goals and 10 assists (plus the fact less of our attacks would break down, allowing for others to score/assist more). With £40m we could find a player capable of that easily, who would be less controversial, and suit us more.

The fact is, Suarez is a luxury player. Players are essentially assets. We are sat on an asset worth £40m on the current market, who will miss at least a 5th of every season. Madrid or Bayern can afford massive squads to offset this. We cannot. Therefore, we need a more reliable, consitent player. Another thing people miss out on Suarez, is he hits some ghastly baron spells quite regularly. Often going 4-5 games without a goal or assist. The problem with Suarez is if he's not contributing, he's not doing anything else in the side. He doesn't really have that great link up play for a start. Our hero worship has built him up to be more than he is. He is a £40m player (in this market). But he is not in the top 5 strikers in the world.

So whilst I see people like Waro and Harrys point (although it took an Enigma machine to find Harrys), I can also see how some people can value him so high, yet also want him gone. Most of all, its his lack of respect that grinds my gears. That is why he should be sold, but that does not affect his value.

08 Jul 2013 14:05:21
Top Post YNWA Adam.

You saved my day.

Suarez is a luxury player?. have you heard yourself?

He is by far the best player at the club, you make it sound like he doesn't work for the team which in fact he does.

A luxury player is someone like Messi who doesn't even try to win a ball back or run back to defend. Luis is certainly not a fancy dan and I find how most of you have turned on him a disgrace to our great club.

In short, we will be a better team without Suarez.

I agree.

Adam: Your over analyzing a game of footie mate.
Football is a reactionary game that is mostly played off the cuff! and great players like Suarez just find the openings and exploit the space.
Coaching is only for the back4 and defensive midfielders, throw ins and free kicks but great forward players just go out and do the business and play with freedom.
Suarez 100% to stay for me. The only thing that matters is Lfc back in the CL.
As for Glen Johnson? I'm sorry but both he and Enrique have often been left exposed by the centre of defence not playing a high line and dragging us back towards our own goal and giving us an exposed and unbalanced look.
Carra was a great reader of the game and tackler but he did drag us back towards our own goal and create gaps, because of his lack of pace.
Toure and Agger do not lack pace and should be able to play a higher line, which creates a better platform for attacking full backs and defensive midfielders have a more condensed space to work in which is the way it should be.

08 Jul 2013 12:44:20
We are resigned to losing some top players this summer but the clubs interested in them have players they don't want but would suit us
In regards to Agger to Barca Sanchez
In regards to Suarez to Madrid Coentroa and Rodriguez us cash

In regards to Assiadi to feyenoord De Vrij plus 15 million.
Thoughts anyone as I'd take any of these deals plus we replace players in positions needed.

Unfortunately its not Football Manager so we will be unable to do such deals

I think Feyenoord may balk a bit if we asked for 15m plus De Vrij for Assiadi ;-)

Where do you think all the money will come from, all would be on high wages?

Barca want 40m euro's for Sanchez so Agger plus 20m?

De Vrij would cost a bit more than 15m with Assaidi I would say.

We are trying to keep the wage bill down so taking 2 players who we don't really need would make the wage bill higher, not very good business sense.

If Suarez is to go then Lpool need to stand firm, no unwanted players just straight cash. {Ed052's Note - Sanchez wouldn't be 40m Euro. De Vrij would cost perhaps $15m but not Euro/£.}

Thanks Ed at least someone's aware of recent valuations. I wasn't saying all of them will sign I was pointing out potential player plus cash deals.

Ps don't play computer games or have FIFA games. That's a tired response from people who can't even type properly.

Barca are looking for in region of 20-25 for Sanchez certain
Y not 40 million (wow where did he get that from).

De Vrij is a player we have asked a out already but found the fee too high. Simply offering Assiaid brings the cash fee down. Hopefully to a level we would accept.

Suarez to Madrid for both Rodriguez (last year of deal and relatively cheap 4-6 million), and Coentroa would say valued roughly at 15-20 million would be a great deal with cash on top coming our way.

Come on people read the posts properly and bit of maturity please.

All this deals are possible (not all in one summer) but they are options, and all players I've listed aren't wanted and could be interested. All clubs I've mentioned interested in our players is confirmed interest.

08 Jul 2013 12:32:37
How many times did Ronaldo has opened his mouth of how he feels seick at madrid?. more than 1 occassion for sure.

he had arguments, fights, abuse, provocation everything on the pitch, still regarded as the world best by media, fans, owners and everyone.

he had 3 red cards at real madrid throughout, making him to serve 9 games ban.
still madrid wouldn't allow him to leave the club. y?
coz he is the best they could have, since they cannot buy Messi.

Great point re Luis, Harry. However Suarez will go if an acceptable offer comes in for him, not just because of his behaviour, but to cash in and use the money to strengthen the squad IMO, we just don't have the sort of financial clout that Real have.

Or no one has put a bid that matches there valuation.

You seem to want a club of unhappy players embarrassing us in the media.

He doesn't bite people, does he? You haven't mentioned Suarez in this post but If I am not mistaken you tried to show us that we should try to keep Suarez here. I do like Suarez because of his skill and passion he showed for our club (although I don't know what he feels about our club anymore) but everytime he does something stupid my heart gets even more broken.

08 Jul 2013 12:56:48
If you are comparing Suarez with C.Ronaldo you are deluded.

Suarez has nothing compared to Ronaldo.
Take off the red-tinted glasses.

So, who are you blaming for Suarez wanting out:

1) LFC fans/supporters
2) FSG
3) The media
4) LFC
5) Suarez

I have made this as clear as I can as I now believe you have issues understanding simple English. Pick an answer, no more gibberish.

The real AG

08 Jul 2013 13:16:54
It ain't a comparison, Its an example How clubs behave these days.
But I am 100% sure, Suarez never had a probelem with our club. And everytime he was on the pitch he gaved his 100%.

08 Jul 2013 13:24:05
The Real AG.

Dont bother my post. I don't expect your opinion, Its not for you. You can continue with other post.
My post has nothing to do with you personally.
Please its a request.

The Real AG all I ever see from you is a know it all attitude, I saw Souness break a players jaw and we didn't sell him in an outrage.

People all feigning outrage at his behaviour are just angry he wants to leave, otherwise where were all you fans when we bought him knowing he had done it before?


Stop pretending his behaviour is what's the problem, the real problem is he wants to leave, the same crap happened when Gerrard nearly went to chelsea, burning shirts etc which was frankly embarrassing.

Alonso wanted out as did Mascherano and others, now some fans want Alonso back, and unbelievably Torres. Lpool fans used to be decent but some of you these days are just plain stupid.

Players want to be at ambitious clubs and competing for trophies, Lpool have gotten to a stage where a CL place and a cup is acceptable. But stop pretending Luis is tarnishing the club when after the events we were all supporting him.

08 Jul 2013 14:11:55
To the last poster.

Top draw mate. luis suarez is 26 probably will have another 4 years of his prime, so like torres when he was at 27 moved to chelsea, he ddidnt see any future.
Did we moved an inch after torres departure?
torres won everything at chelsea, warming the bench or whatever. end of the day, he wanted to have medals in his pocket with a good clean wage, and he got it.
apart from a carling cup, what actually do we have to show?
probably we have chopped of the wage, So as we have wasted over 150 mill in transfer dealing without even any returns.
People should thank suarez, atleast he would give you a 20 mill profit, when caroll went for a 20 mill loss.

Suarez has not tarnished the club?

Then it's too bad he spends every season getting banned and every off-season batting his eye-lids at other clubs.

08 Jul 2013 15:28:02
Harry mate. Please stop with this nonsense that suarez is 20 million profit. He is NOT.

-His transfer fee = £ 23 million
-Agent fees+Signing on fee+Taxes = £ 3 million
-Wages first 1.5 seasons (40 000 pr week) = £ 3 m.
-Wages last season (120 000 pr week) = £ 6 m.
-Different appearance related bonuses & goal bonuses = £ 1.5 million.

Suarez cost Liverpool around £ 37 million in investments.

So how is approximately £ 40 million 20 million profit? Cheers.

Answers on a post card.

No name, as per your no's rec Suarez has cost £26m in terms of initial investments. The rest are all wages which would be expenses not investments.

Harry Scousser

Why not give an answer? You post because you have an opinion. Others reply because they have an opinion to your post.

You have made it very clear that YOU want Suarez to stay and that it is your opinion that LFC want to sell him and we, the supporters, are hypocrites for wanting him out because he wants to leave.

To the anonymous poster who posted after Harry Scousser's 2nd reply:

Let me start of by saying you are a . How did you judge my attitude to be know it all MF? Suarez is a disgrace to LFC and all it stands for. You are just another Suarez lover . When Mascherano left, I condemned his behavior for refusing to play a official game for LFC. Alonso left because of Rafa's personic behavior. He was class and kept his mouth shut. Oh, did I mention he didn't abuse anyone during his time at LFC, didn't bite anyone TWICE during his career?

Nobody is pretending nothing anonymous clueless poster. You are the embarrassment here, bleating on about a player who has dragged LFC through the mud and will continue to do so for his personal gain.

Finally, anonymous gutless poster, why didn't put in a name in?

The real AG

{Ed052's Note - That's cool AG. Hopefully it'll save us some abuse too}

08 Jul 2013 18:47:00
Sean Ireland

Does those expenses come from your pocket?
It's still 9 million FSG paid for his wages no matter what you call it. And is considered in his total costs before the club bough him no matter what you think. Cheers.

The real AG mate, save your breath. Scousssser will only give you high blood pressure :)

No name, those are expenses they don't affect the cost of the player (or asset whatever you want to call Suarez). Wages are for his playing services so costs they are but we have availed of his playing services so those are for the goals he's been scoring since joining, etc. They don't affect the potential "profit" on his sale as per either you or the other no name I don't know is this the same person? Who cares though, no name means u don't stand by what you say.

And before you get any ideas about his bans I posted at the time I think the club should have fined him his full wages for the period he is banned (pay him for the summer holidays though) and have that put to charity. Hit him in the pocket and then he would be losing out for his bad behaviour rather than just the club. {Ed002's Note - The club are not allowed to fine him like that.

10 Jul 2013 10:30:27
it's a pity they're not. Unfair him collecting weekly wages when he's banned for doing stupid things but if that's the case then fair enough

08 Jul 2013 12:28:09
Waro,
I didn't suggest Tamworth was the best place to live and I'll thank you to not put words in my mouth.

08 Jul 2013 12:17:33
With Wimbledon wait now over.
With the British & Irish Lions wait now over.
Success in Tour de France, US open, last years Olympics
Surely the rise of Liverpool must be next followed by England winning the World Cup. ok I've gone to far about England but never has a season got so much promise, 3 new managers with pressure on them plus they can't buy who they want because of rich competition from France.
Liverpool need 2 or 3 quality players not reserves. Just do it.

FSG Carpe diem

08 Jul 2013 12:16:53
hi eds and reds. Just wanted to know your opinions about Kelly and Wisdom playing CB as I've never watched them in that role? Thanks

I expect kelly to move to CB which will hopefully stop any injuries occurring whilst wisdom will be back up to glen johnson at RB, i'm hoping wisdom takes over from johnson soon though!

They've only ever played those positions in the reserves or England youth.

So, they are unproven as a top level CB.

Both are very good players, strong and fairly quick with good football brains. But they are inexperienced back up CB options until they prove differently. They deserve a chance and may get it during a cup run.

SpudRed

08 Jul 2013 12:16:51
Hi Eds!

While HM seems to sign for BvB in the upcoming days or so and Illori being snubbed by Chelski, it feels a bit like last august all over again (even though we secured some new faces already). What does this depend on? Is this just a financial question? Cause it feels that we get the players that no one else is interested in but as soon as there are other clubs in the race (even without CL-spots) - we loose out (Sigurdsson, Dempsey, HM and maybe Illori). Are we being bad negotiators or do we just step out due to fee/contract? {Ed002's Note - What about the players that have already signed? Hopeless.}

HM & Ilori haven't signed for anyone yet and the club think both are slightly overpriced so I think we're right to stick to our guns rather than overpay.

I wouldn't say we missed out on either Sigurdsson or Dempsey. Sigurdsson had a straight choice between us and spurs and he chose the higher wages - what a foolish decision that's proved to be he had a v quiet season and we're lucky he chose money over the shirt. Dempsey - we messed Fulham around so they wanted to make us pay for it, also after a v quiet season and it looks like we may have dodged another bullet there.

We've already signed 4 players

08 Jul 2013 15:04:46
Sean Ireland.
Gyfi had an average seaosn at spurs, don't be biased. he had actually a better seaosn than henderosn in past two years with Liverpool. he is just 24 and as per Liverpool fans theory, he still has time to prove as like with allen and henderson.
We were right in not getting gylfi and Dempsy. but we were foolish in getting allen, henderson and caroll. why don't you highlight that?

Harry, this post was about players we "missed out" on with Sigurdsson and Dempsey mentioned as examples in the OP. We signed Allen, Henderson and Carroll we didn't miss out on them so I don't see how they're relevant to this post.

I also would say Sigurdsson's season was more poor than average, that's opinion of course though. You are clearly including the season before as Sigurdsson was better the Jan-May period on loan at Swansea and Henderson was worse the season before last. You're just including this to suit your point but I clearly commented on the season just gone not 2 seasons.

Henderson was a lot better than Sigurdsson last season, that's not being biased I don't know how you can argue that. Sigurdsson was brought into spurs to get goals as he doesn't offer much else, he got jittery in front of goal, hence his poor season. He was used sparingly until late in the season.

08 Jul 2013 11:43:56
Morning EDs & reds, this more a post for EDs 002 if he about?
Ive had a look in search bar but couldn't really see anything regarding this but here goes, ;ive seen you mention a few times that lfc knows what needs to be paid to conclude the hm & illori deals, was just wondering do you know of any price lfc have put on suarez head? I've seen loads of numbers getting thrown about but not sure if we have let clubs know what it will take to conclude a deal?
Many thanks. {Ed002's Note - Liverpool will wish to get the best price they can and to do that they will need multiple bidders. I am not going to speculate what an acceptable price might be.}

Around £50 million will be the price according to ever reliable Echo. {Ed052's Note - I suspect Liverpool would accept £40m. I personally would have accepted the offer from Arsenal}

ED052, I respect your opinion but do you not think that would be selling the club a bit short? If that we accepted £30m then that would cover the fee plus other costs for HM, in a financial sense it would be the club effectively swapping these two players. Suarez is a world renowed star, yes he's an eejit but he's a fantastic player.

HM may be overpriced at that but that's essentially my point. Players like HM would cost circa £30m to sign excluding wages so I think this wouldn't be anywhere near enough for Suarez.

You would have accepted 30 million?

what is wrong with you eds? you come out with some unbelievable comments sometimes.

so if you lived in a 10 million pound mansion would you sell if for 6 million?

what a stupid thing to say. players are assets, why would we accept 30 million when we could easily get 40 or 45 million for him?

im dumbfounded, I really am. ed don't ever go into business mate. {Ed052's Note - We bought Suarez for 23m, but, even thought the house in crumbling a bit, its aged, so its price has gone up a bit. But, the owner really wants to buy a new house, so that the house doesn't fall down more, incurring costs/Suarez banned, so, they will sell it for cheaper than its worth. Whats so hard to understand? You example is terrible too, seeing as though I want to seel Suarez for me that we got him for, yet your example returns less money. If your going to make a point, make sure it makes sense}

Ed lucky you are not in charge then, suarez 30million and to a league rival no way. Jdog

Ed0052 may I ask why you would sell our best player to a direct rival for an absolute pittance? {Ed052's Note - I've answered this just now. a)so its not a sage. b)to get it sorted quickly. c)to make sure he goes. d)more time to get a replacement in. e)for them to gel. f)so that Arsenal fans get excited over him, then pisses them off. And 30m ain't dirt cheap, it'll fund all the signings we need.}

08 Jul 2013 11:24:55
Non related Liverpool post, but I have 4 tickets to see The Killers, Two Door Cinema Club, Frank Ocean and Haim in Pheonix Park Dublin Saturday 13/7/13. if anyone is interested can you let me know please? I am looking £130 for all 4. Nigel Belfast {Ed002's Note - I am travelling this week so will only be around occasionally, but I have left Nigel's contact details with Ed099 - leave a message for him if you are interested.}

08 Jul 2013 11:03:23
Hey eds, how likely do you think that Suarez would stay at Liverpool? {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

08 Jul 2013 10:45:54
With regards to lfc v spurs tug of war for players such as alderweirald, eriksen & chadli? It seems spurs are more interested In pjanic & nicolas lombaerts! With regards to chadli, he has now been to the spurs training ground twice & one of those trips coincided with pjanic being there as well! Doesn't mean they would sign obviously! alderweirald would welcome a move to england and would probably settle? eriksen would also welcome a move to england BUT his arrival would only be as a stepping stone to spain or italy!

So Madrid want Suarez and Suarez wants Madrid but Madrid won't bid for Suarez until Higuain moves to Arsenal BUT in the meantime Arsenal have bid for Suarez but Suarez may not want Arsenal as he's set his heart on Madrid.

Its a funny game


Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA {Ed002's Note - No, that is not the situation.}

08 Jul 2013 10:36:15
hai. Ed great site and excellent work.
couldnt resist myself.
So arsenal offically had a bid for suarez. showing some real intention.
what about the clubs brand?, reputation, godwill. sponsors. blah blah blah.
they don't care anything, they need to win something this year simple as that.
30+ goals striker from the same league is an excellent buy for any team.
I mean he could blossom at arsenal. walcot, wilshere, carzola, podolski, probably fellaini or higuain. Man that's some force. and arsene wenger always tame the best players really well.

good luck to them if they get him for 40 mill, still he is an excellent buy at 40 mill.

Why would you say good luck? If he goes to them that's top 4 out the window and they will be title contenders. Stupid post

You have changed your stance. From Suarez being your GOD, you are now having a minor pop at LFC?

If Arsenal get Suarez, what will you think of Suarez?

The real AG

If Arsenal signed Suarez it would mean Liverpool's very very very small chance of getting a top four position would then be impossible to achieve. Liverpool will never get out of mediocrity until they have had a few successive seasons in the Champions League.

How you could say good luck to them is mind boggling.

Disney!

Ahh Harry, you do make me laugh.

Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA

08 Jul 2013 11:17:48
To real AG

What should I think?. What you mean. suarez should remain with us for his entire life?. afterall he is replacble, and we are getting money, why are u botherd of him going to any other club.
we don't need him, we want him to be sold to build our club, let anyone buys him.
common. u getting worried, he goes to arsenal and bang another 30+ goals?. If so, why sell him?

To Harry Scousser

From that very poorly written gibberish, the best I could understand was that why would I be worried if Suarez is sold to Arsenal?

I was pointing out how, YOU (Harry Scousser) have changed your stance?

YOU (Harry Scousser), have been banging on about "keeping Suarez", "Suarez loves Liverpool", "Suarez will score 10 free-kicks" etc for a while now. So, NOW, that Arsenal have bid for Suarez, and if Suarez moves to Arsenal, it contradicts everything he (Suarez) has been saying the whole summer (that is, Suarez wants out because of the media).

YOU (Harry Scousser) now say good luck to Arsenal and that we need money from Suarez's sale to rebuild.

You are a humongous Hypocrite.

The real AG

08 Jul 2013 12:27:35
To real AG,

I always want him to stay, and I would be gutted to see him go, coz, he is an execellent player, a world class player.
But, apart from me, howm many honeslty want him here after all these incident?. 5 or may be 10 people.
And rest all believe, we can easily replace him with the money we get from his sale.
If arsenal comes with 50 mill to land him, would you be happy to get the money, or gutted to see him joining our rivals like torres?

Now, don't say you want both. If so then that's called EGO. no cure, If you believe we can replace him with the money, then go aghead and sell him to the highest bidder. let it be arsenal or spurs or chelsea or real madrid.

Y are poeple bothering in it, if they believe we can get another torres or suarez.

I ll tell you the reality, everyone here including you knows clearly, that currently, none of the top players would come to us. and If suarez goes to any other EPL club, then that ends our chance of CL.

The fans who think the above are more selfish than suarez himself.

You have again conveniently side stepped my question to you, would you not see him as a hypocrite if he goes to Arsenal, when he has been saying the only reason he wants out is the British media?

The real AG

Again, I find that very difficult to understand, either type in a coherent manner or stop writing stuff that is confusing.
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"Now, don't say you want both. EGO. spurs or chelsea or real madrid"
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Nonsense. LFC will try to get the best deal they can for him, but would prefer not to sell to a rival. How hard is that to understand?

You say we cannot get £50 million if we sell him to a club outside England and expect to build a better squad with £50 million? More nonsense.
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"i ll tell you the reality. more selfish than suarez himself"
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More nonsense. How are we selfish if we think LFC can acheive CL you plantpot?

The real AG

The more Harry types the less sense he's making

08 Jul 2013 13:21:09
The Real AG.

PLs don't use abusive language. If you ain't with my post, that's fine, That does not allow you to abuse anyone here.
and BTW, neither my post, nor your replies or frustuation would change our clubs standings.

08 Jul 2013 13:29:34
Haha, the day Suarez moves to Arsenal is the day it rains pigs.

Completely unecessary post. That absolutely proves Harry doesn't have Liverpool's best interest at heart.

He only cares about Suarez. And his next team obviously.

08 Jul 2013 14:19:48
To the last poster.

No mate, I have been only supporting Liverpool FC, But I like suarez, because I believe he is the best player we have got in past 2-3 years.
I still like torres, But I never support chelsea.

08 Jul 2013 16:17:31
Call me deluded or whatever, I think Coutinho & Sturridge are better players.
If you only support Liverpool what will you do with the Suarez poster on your wall?
Don't tell me you watch Chelsea games to watch Torres? Ha ha

08 Jul 2013 10:30:31
just a thought really? read this morning on tv that villa will let darren bent go for £5 million. surely at that price he has to be a good addition even as a squad player. not a stellar signing I accept but willing to bet he would get between 15-20 goals given a fair run. got to be better value than some relative unknown or some over priced player who has had one good season. redleigh75

Thats 15-20 goals more than Borini
scored and for half the price
Bent would make a great squad player

15-20 goals more than Borini. Sorry how many games did Borini play in his 1st season in the Premier League? Not saying necessarily that Borini will get 20 goals this season but lord, give him a chance. The reason Bent is going so cheap is that he's pushing 30 and Villa want his 70 grand a week wages off the books. Last season he made 16 league appearences and scored 3 goals, not exactly prolific.

He can put the ball in the back of the net but it would be like playing with 10 men a lot of the time he's never involved in games and that wouldn't suit us. Sturridge is a finisher but he gets involved too, that's more suited to us.

£5m but what about wages? Isn't he on £65k a week, that's almost £3.5m a year on someone you intend on putting on the bench

Its hard enough to score 20 goals when your out injured

08 Jul 2013 10:26:36
To the regular Suarez hating posters, why are you laughing off £30million bids for him? With the faults you all take great pleasure in pointing out and the fact that according to you all he will never change, you should be grateful to get £30mill for him, how the hell can you be asking £30 40 50 million for him when according to you lot, the buying club will get nothing but trouble from him? You all want rid a.s.a.p. so you should be grateful to get £30mill for him!

Waro

I actually agree. I think there has been a lot of double standards regarding Suarez.

If you demand a big fee for him, you can't talk about ho much of a disruption he is. Logic needs to be used here. I think £40m is a lot for a player who struggles with acting before thinking in such an explosive way like Suarez.

I don't agree with you all the time, Waro, but I definitely do in this one.

Exactly.
David Price has hit the nail on the head there. Lol.
The Juicer

Kind of agree with this post Waro. What do you value him at then?

Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA

I think Waro your forgetting that yes regardless of all the trouble he brings he also scores lots and wins games which let's face it is what wins games and trophys.
If he went to Arsenal and scores goals which beat us so therefore giving Arsenal 6 points and losing us six.Then Arsenal have access to two european cups and get the money that this brings because of those six points then 30 million really isn't enough for him is it, especially when we piad 20 million and he has proven he is more than good enough in this league.

So problems aside he is worth the money personally at least another 10 million because I am discounting for problems as Bale is est 60 million and let's face it Suarez is just as good.

Kopping a feel

As much as many of us want rid waro we at least want a good price to get a replacement in.
Why sell for £30m when we know bigger bids will be coming in.

MIKEY

08 Jul 2013 10:55:53
Waro.
Good post, I agree, When people don't really care about him or want him, why are they holding out for a big money?. 30 mill is still a marginal profit.
most here knows of his quality and if he moves to arsenal or any other rival clubs, That would really bite us, provided we are missing out on our targets.
lets be honest, who would want to come to us at present condition.

While he is clearly trouble, it doesn't mean we have to let him go on the cheap when we know we can get more for him, simple as that.

The real AG

Sam, I would not sell for less than £60 million and hope to get more, I don't slag him off and want rid of him you see so I feel I can value him at that.

Waro

If Bale is worth £80m as reported then Suarez is worth £60M with that purely based on his footballing ability however I think we are likely to sell at £45m.

Still good business IMO when you weigh it up with the problems he causes.

Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA {Ed002's Note - That of course is not how players are valued.}

I agree with Waro and I'd much prefer to keep him but if he is to go I think £50m without any mediocre player swaps

Ive got to say i'm with Waro all the way here, LFC must keep Suarez end of he's in the top 5 players in world football right now. I hate all the double standard rubbish on here, We as a set of fans should now better than to trust the word of the British media. Do we all forget the poison that's been printed in the past? the media want all of us to turn on Suarez and make him want to leave, yet all the same media are stating Bales love for the Spuds and he's going stick around.

You's lot need to think why there trying to hound out one of the best players in the league, Cause he plays with Liverpool. The eds and many of the posters on here are going say ' aye but what about all the trouble he cause' Frankly I don't care about his antics, I like seeing a player with fire in his belly and fighting for the cause. His first long ban for the evra incident was a joke and at the time every one on here agreed and backed suarez, The biting ban was a joke if you ask me to but i'm not going into that cause it starts to many arguments.

And I also get why there's is anger my some fans and yes he should have keep his mouth shut about wanting to play for Real, but did Agger not mention a while back that if Bara became interest in signing him he would seriously have to consider it? So what if Suarez has admited he would like to play for real, there's not many players in the world that wouldnt. Look at united they all let Ronaldo go and still rever him as a legend and woulld take him back, the Gunners way cesc, You's all would take alonso back who also wanted to leave to try his luck at Real. The list goes on and on a lot of players want to play with these two massive clubs its not a crime in doing so.

So waro my son, we need to keep Suarez cause in turn this helps attract better players cause there going be playing with him, I think that's the draw for players right now at the spuds. yes the don't have Cl but laying with good players help attract better players and we need all the help we can in that department, and FSG need to make the push this year, I now your stance on them but I back them and BR to deliver, I will however reserve this till the window has ended to truly see where were heading as a football club. YNWA

Scottybhoy 1888

08 Jul 2013 13:40:37
A player is worth only what somebody is willing to pay for them.

If somebody will pay £80 million then that is what he is worth.

08 Jul 2013 14:24:45
so micheal owen was only worth 8 mill at time of sale? I think not

08 Jul 2013 09:48:03
So we did not get Mk, how do we know he was our number one target? The media? His favoured position is behind the front man, but towards the end of last season Coutinho shined in this position. So he would be wasted to be put on the left again.

Also allot of people saying spend a fortune on the greek, I feel this would be wasted money. We have Kelly back and he is 23 now so he should be making that step up and playing the position he started as which is CB. Plus he looks a beast now after his injury, its just a case of keeping him fit. So I would say its between him and Toure to partner Agger, then all we need is a young cover for CB depending on who goes out.

Agree, agree, agree. Good post

Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA

Your post makes sense. But from everyone out there one question.
are we going to be in CL next seaosn?.
everyone thinks from the academy and players point of view. None from the business or Owners point of view.
We, they, and Liverpool FC needs CL next seaosn to blossom.

If we can sign someone really good for LW then great but if not then Coutinho was still vg out there (correct he wasn't as good but saying he would be wasted is an exaggeration).

I would like to ditch plans to sign a replacement for Coates as Kelly should be allowed the chance there. If Skrtel or Agger go though I would much rather go for a player of Papadopolous' ilk rather than a promising youngster. No need to sign promising CBs we have Kelly & Wisdom so if signing any then go for top class with the money from Coates and Skrtel/Agger.

08 Jul 2013 01:06:15
So Ed (preferably a Liverpool supporting Ed) with the Mkhitaryan deal seeming unlikely now, who would you like to see come to Anfield instead (realistically)? Just for a bit of fun! Mine would be Eriksen not sure how likely that is but who would you like to see Ed? Cheers.
ROI. {Ed052's Note - If Peter Whittingham was slightly better than he is, it would be him. He is the mould of player we need - great set pieces, great passing, hard working, etc etc - but he isn't good enough. Perhaps Alonso and push Gerrard on?}

08 Jul 2013 09:48:03
the player the ed explains he wants has to be rakitic he is good enough imo.Tommy Irish Red

I thought they decided to move gerrard behind so that he could play more games? why push him back then.

I don't think pushing Gerrard back behind the striker is ideal now Ed052. He did very well last year, scoring 9 and assisting 10 from a deeper role and with Coutinho doing very well there (3 goals and 7 assist in 13 games last season), I think it's best to keep Coutinho there and add a Wing forward.

The real AG {Ed052's Note - But last season, we had a midfield 3, with Lucas and Gerrard sitting, and one midfielder going forward. That could be Gerrard, and Alonso sitting. Its very unlikely - however}

Why isn't there any talk abt honda.he was doing gr8 for japan at the confaderation cup.he would be perfect for our system. {Ed002's Note - Honda will likely shun Everton and move to Milan.}

Also, I disagree about Rakitic. He isn't that good; is more of a CM who can play AM if required, but won't score a lot.

The real AG

Gerrard is better off in that more deeper roll now I think. He had a decent season.
Although it would be great to see Lucas and Alonso sitting and gerrard further up I can't see it happening.
Mainly because it would be at the expense of Allen and Henderson.

MIKEY

Sure Ed052, but that was largely down to us not having a player like Coutinho for the first half of the season. Since we got Coutinho, in bigger games, we have been using Henderson as a tucked in LM and using Coutinho as the AM.

Horses for course I guess, but I see Coutinho as the AM for the majority of the games next season.

The real AG {Ed052's Note - Hopefully he will be yes, I agree that's where he is best}

08 Jul 2013 09:27:01
Arsenal can have Suarez, if they throw Cazorla in the deal!

In all seriousness though, he isn't going there is he? My money is on Luis going to Monaco.

Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA

I can see Real Madrid's interest materializing into a bid for Jovetic now that Higuain is on his way to Arsenal and Cavani is no longer an option. Jovetic is also the man preferred by Ancelotti.

Suarez's options seem to be diminishing by the day.

The real AG

Arsenal are stupid enough to bid for suarez.

And just how a guy so critisized and turm as a insult to its clubs pride, critisized by many sections of media, clubs, mangers and fans is ironicaly at the top of the wishlist of the top most clubs.

Thats why I give only 2 worlds for lfc fans who don't want him here or feel embarassed by his antics.
Guys wake up smell the coffie. he's a gem of a footballer and we should try every bit to not let him go.

08 Jul 2013 09:24:57
Arsenal finally showing some bite in the transfer market with their offer for Suarez. Haha
RedSox69

Nah, that was just a lick at £30m, ; they are scared to bite at £40m minimum.

The real AG

08 Jul 2013 08:17:11
Hello eds could you state which teams hold an intrest in suarez and do you think he could move to anthor bpl or is RM still the likley move thanks in advance {Ed002's Note - Done to death - we cannot be expected to keep answering this.}

08 Jul 2013 08:43:53
Very close to many Liverpool fans in india. and we think Reds should buy Chadil/Dudsdack for wings, Ericksen and Jorgihno for CM, and Aldervield for Defense.

This will burn a hole of about 45M Pounds.
Suarez money any 1 :) {Ed002's Note - Plus wages, agents fees etc..}

Chadli is not even an improvement on Downing and Rakitic is not a winger.

The real AG

08 Jul 2013 08:29:47
Have anyone watched this jorginho, is he good?
Croat

08 Jul 2013 08:24:55
I feel the signings we have made so far were necessary and needed, but we do need a few players of a higher calibre.

aspas, Alberto and toure were all required as squad fillers, and are good players, but we now need to buy some players that will really make the difference and push us beyond the top sides.

Papadopoulous, alderweireld, eriksen, Muriel, wanyama, tello and Lamela, these are the players we should be looking at to help us push on, assuming that we sell everyone I expect us to sell, particularly Suarez.

I also would have loved mkhitaryan, seemed like a truly great player and would have done well for us, but we ballsed up on our most important transfer of the summer. A shame.

Anonymous woolback

We did not balls up anything. Go and do some research and stop spouting off the same nonsense everyone else does!

I doubt Aspas is a "Squad Filler" as you say Woolback. Alberto will have to fight his way into the team as he has Coutinho, Sterling, Downing, Aspas, Borini and possibly Suso competing for 3 places.

The real AG

08 Jul 2013 07:18:09
I know everyone is looking for the next big signing but unless we lose Suarez I think we are geared up reasonably well. I guess you can never have enough good defenders so if one is avalible why not.
My concern is with our current injured players. Do we know yet if Gerrard is fully on track for the start of the season? How is sturridge progressing and has Allen recovered well enough to get a full preseason under his belt.

We started to show at the end of last season that on our day we are a match for most teams. Adding the extra bodies up front should have eased the managers selection problems if we get a few injuries.
Given our poor start last year we have plenty of room for improving our league position this term. Starting as we we finished last season is the way to go, remembering we finished last season without Suarez.

08 Jul 2013 06:21:42
Do you see Downing leaving Eds? Tar. {Ed002's Note - I am not sure at this time.}

08 Jul 2013 03:06:27
After what it seemed like a good start to the transfer window, everything has started to go horribly wrong!
With the imminent departures of Suarez, Reina, Skrtel, quite possibly Agger and Mkhitaryan ditching us for Dortmund, I am not actually looking forward to the new season. Yes there is plenty of time left in the window and we will get plenty of money with sales but doubt any good players actually sign for us after HM saga. We may well have to look for Coutinho type bargain buys but not everytime this type of buy prove to be a success.
Sadly Top 4 is beyond us next season because other teams are just too stronger than us.
Hope I am proved wrong!

Indy Kevin

If the players we sign turn out to be like Coutinho, bargain or not, I see no reason to fret like you are doing now.

The real AG

08 Jul 2013 00:40:19
Eds Any truth in
Arsenal suarez rumours?

Basy {Ed002's Note - I would not worry about Suarez moving to Arsenal.}

08 Jul 2013 00:34:26
Funny how arsenal are now bidding £30m for suarez when they know we won't accept. just keeping there fans thinking they will spend big . bo77ocks


Ynwa

I was about to send in a comment same meaning like everyone knows it's a minimum of 40 to talk to him there just trying to look good didn't offer it for Rooney because it would probably get accepted then what would they do they might have to spend it then lol

They will sign Higuain for something close to £25m, is that not spending money? I agree the £30m was never going to get accepted. Arsenal thought we panicked and wanted Suarez out, but their cheap stake bid was rejected.

The real AG

Alonso to Chelski

08 Jul 2013 09:10:57
doubt that what if Liverpool said here take him and all the trouble he causes with it, great player though no good sitting suspended for a third of the season every year.Tommy Irish Red

Kind of like how we've were going for Mickey but not really, making it seem like we were going to spend 20mil+ when the reality is we will likely bring in a centre back (possibly Ilori) and no one else.

08 Jul 2013 00:03:20
The ultimatum season for Liverpool

In some sense the media has been kind to us in the past 2 or 3 seasons. I will explain the reason for saying that at the end of this writing. In those seasons we had an average squad that at most times lost the typical Liverpool mentality ' fight till the end '

the reason for it isn't lack of ambition from the owners, it was rather a bad judgment with transfers. Even when the previous owners were scrapping for cash, they allowed most of the 30 million received for Alonso to be spent on a single player. Alberto Aquillani the 20 mill failure. Even when Arbeloa left he was replaced by a more than adequate replacement with the 17mill Johnson. Although we were not as fortunate as Chelsea or city, we were spending money. the wrong doing there was when all that money was a debt to the club rather than the owners.

The season after, The bank that had more say with what goes around the club, decided to let Benitez go and brought in the incredibly dull Woy Houdgson. even then, when the club was on a high financial fall down, he was allowed to find a right replacement for mascherano and bring in free transfers with expensive wages. I have never seen such a disastrous transfer period in our history. cole, jovanovic, Wilson, Poulsen, Jones were total failures which the club even have had difficulties later to get rid of. Only Meireles was to be a successful addition.

King Kenny came, brought the fighting spirit back and when we thought we would be back to the european elites, almost everything went wrong with transfers. we had new owners, we sold Torres and Meireles for 60 mill pound, you would think we have a golden chance to build a strong squad that would challenge for a title. it all started when we spent 35mill pound on a young english striker, who had only a 5 month premier league experience. they said Camolli and FSG use statistics and scientific methods to choose their targets. but I can't see where that 35 mill worth of stat is. Can you imagine what kind of striker you would get for that kind of money?
that was not enough though, another close to 50 mill was spent on Downing, Henderson, and Coates. I ask myself, why did we go english then? I don't hate these players but why would you ignore players like mata and go for them?
FSG recognised the mistake after the end of the season and decided to act by firing Kenny, and Cammoli. I still admire them for taking a bold decision. although it takes a lot of gut to fire someone like Kenny, that also showed their desire to move forward.
Brendan came. young manager who likes attractive football. this time he was not to be trusted with the owners money to the level Camolli and Kenny were trusted. and I say that was the right decision. Borini, for 11 mill is a big mistake. even though he may turn out to be a good player in the future, clearly he was not worth that much. Brendan recognised our weakness in the heart of midfield and he brought in Allen for 15 mill. during that transfer market if you see players that cost 15 mill, you would find among the list the likes of Dembele, Kagwa, Carzolla 17mill, etc. Allen may turn out to be a player of that calibre in the future but he was not at the time. there are players like Sahin, you could understand why he was brought in and when it does not work out you would also understand why it didn't. But Brendan Rodgers brought in 2 quality players in January to undo all the mistakes.
this time around he studied the squad and he brought in the players he believed in, not the players that would help him introduce his system.

for the past 2 or 3 seasons the media has been kind to us by naming us in top 5, top 6 and last season top 7. the worst we did, the broader the group became. for me there should only be top 5. top 4 is top 4 and spurs has done well to deserve to be in that top group. if we fail with this year's transfers, we will not deserve to be in that group. we will just be a mid table team. the key is to bring in the right players. because we already know we have the right manager. usually, the players that excite the fans never turn out to be failures. the owners need to take more risk if they want the club to be in champions league.

The young players that were brought in are good players but to be honest we never know their quality before they were linked to us. until now, we have a net spending of 4.5 mill. spearing, Coates, pacheco, Ince(35% deal) will bring in more like 10 mill. with out considering the sell of suarez, pepe and Skrtel, I expect the owners to allocate some budget and I believe realistically, these four players will give the right balance and quality to the team to drive us to top4.
Alderwield and Eriksen 25mill, Alonso 10 mill, Cissokho 4mill

One BIG difference between [Borini and Allen] and [Mata, Cazrola, Dembele & Kagawa] is that the former wanted to come here.

It is well and good to ramble off price comparisons, but the players have to actually want to play for LFC mate.

That is the thing that your post, and many others, fail to recognise.

Kenny had us comfortably in the top 4 before the Suarez/Evra hearing. Then we imploded.
I doubt Kenny had anything to do at all with deciding how much the club would spend on a player. Comolli perhaps, but the responsibility must lie with Isn 'Teflon' Ayre. Otherwise, why have a director of football and why have a CEO?Kenny will have identified the targets but Comilli and Ayre held the purse strings.
Rodgers has spent a LOT of money and has to get a return this season or he will be relieved of his position, of that I am 100% sure.

Rodgers has already identified the right 2 players to complete our spending for the summer, Mickey and Papa the greek, let's hope we can still get them.
Alonso is a no no for me along with Eriksen, the other two could be viable especially Alderweld.

I agree but selling suarez to arsenal or chelsea will not help us getting above them in the league we can't keep grooming players for chelsea ie merielles benayoum torres are we just a fodder club for them unless a top striker is brought in to replace suarez we will defo be a mid table side next season

08 Jul 2013 07:35:59
Top Post. Still can't believe, we spend over 150 mill in past 3 seaosns. and yet sitting in 7th. the only world class player we have got in suarez and he is moving this summer.

08 Jul 2013 08:32:44
Couldnt agree more

croat

Completely agree with Liverpress. The majority are still stuck in the past, thinking any players, regardless of CL and high wages, would come to LFC.

The real AG

God how silly that souds. " I doubt kenny had anything to do with signings."
some one has just wrote this above.

Do u really belive commoli(what ever his name is.) would buy adams, downing, caroll, henderson. Imean that strictly sounds like all british kenny signings. No matter how much we love kenny we got to accept that kennys phylosophy was outdated. The all english, small and big strike partnership. To name few.,

the two mangerial stints of hodgson and kenny have taken back long way. Sply with the signings they made. hodgson got us that fulham left back, paulsen, jovanovic, kenny gave us adams, caroll and downing. God this guys r just so ordinary filings and we have payed around 100min for them. The original poster said abt wining mentality? Wel these guys have never won any thing where would have that mentality from?

Agree with Liverpress and AG. I think Isco would be super for the same money (or a touch less even) as HM but would he consider us? No.

miccmak, overall a good post