Liverpool Banter Archive January 08 2016
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08 Jan 2016 22:43:59
Nice to see the posts tonight and some very contrasting opinions.
This is the way I look at it though:
This was a cup game and like we see year in year out differences between league positions go out of the window, these lower teams play the game of there lives.
Exeter play as a unit week in week out so are all very familiar with each other.
Klopp has just thrown this squad together tonight with some of them not even knowing each other's names.
I though the kids played well tonight under the circumstances so credit to them and credit to Exeter.
Also I hope he playa the same squad in the replay.
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08 Jan 2016 23:15:44
I thought Exeter looked nothing more than a league 2 team, no disrespect to them or to league 2 (and yes, league 2 teams also score some good goals sometimes) . You could see the basic differences even with the side we had today, in term of controlling the ball from strong passes, closing down players, possesion etc.
But our youngsters are not good enough to creat chances and beat them. Yes the fact that our team didn't play together before today didn't help but it was Klopp's decision to play this starting 11. He could have included 3-4 more senior players and the differen in quality would have shown in the result. I don't know if he thinks we are are already in too many competitions or that he thinks somewhat arrogantly that any LFC player even if he was loaned to poor team which still didn't play him, must be of a such a high quality that he will always beat a team like Exeter. The reward is another midweek game.
08 Jan 2016 23:37:51
How could you even think Klopp showed arrogance in his team selection? Two bigger games coming up and more than half the first team injured. He gave valuable experience to the young players and they responded. A replay is a good result. And maybe when more First teamers are healthy he will play them alongside the younger players. It also amazes me that a lot of you call for the kids one minute then complain that they played in a cup match.
09 Jan 2016 00:19:22
Fanobip and if any of those 3-4 senior players were injured what would we have done for Arsenal and United? Honestly I'm glad Klopp had the balls to do it, no other senior players were injured and we didn't lose.
There were a couple of good performers who could now push for a place in the first team squad. Yes he COULD have put a few extra senior players in there but honestly how often have we seen a "hybrid" team go out because they've literally never played together? At least these lads have played with each other in the youth system and you could see that at times (- Benteke) .
Honestly I'm happy. (Although that replay really is a ballache) .
09 Jan 2016 01:37:56
Fano, which senior players should he have played with TWELVE of them being out injured and NO CB's? And what would you have said if those 3-4 players got hurt? You'll be on here mouthing off as to why Klopp even bothered playing them which is why Klopp is the manager and those who think like you aren't. people want youth given a chance then bitch when they go out and play.
Make up your minds, already. Our senior players would have had EIGHT days of rest since the last game which allows us to recharge our batteries and train normally but clearly that's not good enuff for you. Well, Klopp got it right. We're not out of the Cup to the chagrin of the haters or cynics out there (not you, Fano. I mean the media) so we all move on.
09 Jan 2016 03:37:30
Fanobip did you see the pitch we were playing on today? Risking first team players who have been training at a high risk level of training on a pitch of that state would likely see them injured. I'm pleased that Klopp had the sense to give youth a chance while allowing our crucial first team players to recover for a big game. There's no arrogance in his decision to field that starting XI today.
08 Jan 2016 22:42:28
I enjoyed the game actually. Thought it was a good old fashioned cup game and I welcome them to Anfield they deserved the replay at least. 4 goals, dodgy pitch, Friday night beers? And now it's another home game we can attend! What more do we want?
Majority of these players will be gone within 3,years though. Bang Average!
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08 Jan 2016 22:32:05
Enjoyed watching the kids play tonight, was impressed with Tex, Kent, Smith and Ojo, thought Ilori did well considering his CB partner isn't a natural CB. I really hope Klopp let's them finish the job at Anfield, better pitch, in front of the LFC supporters. Have to say, really pleased for Exeter City. The additional income from getting the replay will be a massive deal to the club, and we need the smaller local clubs to keep the sport grounded and not entirely money orientated.
Hope the travelling Kop have a safe journey home.
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09 Jan 2016 01:54:29
Kent did not perform well let's be honest. Smith was ok but his goal makes his performance a lot better than it actually was. Illori had a decent first half but was awful second half, I see what Aston villa problem was unfortunately.
Tex played well in the first was quiet in the second but you could see he had more talent than most. Sinclair was quiet but for the goal, I'd like to see more of him. Brannagan was the best performer IMO, ojo as well when he can on.
08 Jan 2016 22:04:17
Ahh youth: inconsistent, prone to mistakes, prone to making the wrong decisions, inexperienced, under pressure to try and make a name for themselves. I think it is always hard to judge the youth players, especially in the context of tonight's game. Give them some credit though - they outshone the senior players.
- Benteke was appalling.
- Enrique just kept hoofing if forward again and again.
- I thought Branagan looked to have something about him
- Texeira is ready for more first team football in my opinion - Chivirella has some nice touches (and a few not so nice ones) but looks like he will be useful
- Stewart just doesn't look up to it in my opinion
- Randall had a decent 1st half but tired and was out of it in the 2nd
- By contrast Smith looked poor in the first half but really grew into the game and looked to push the team on in the 2nd
- Kent had a very good 1st half but did nothing until substituted in the 2nd
- Sinclair looked lively but was sadly linking up with one of the laziest forwards in England
- Ojo was excellent when coming on, another who might be close to the first team
To conclude:
I think it was bold to play the youngsters, I think we should play them again in the replay. We need to give them a platform and a chance to perform - if they don't fair enough, we learn who is good enough and who isn't - including them in teams, in games, in the club - it can only be a good thing.
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08 Jan 2016 22:20:59
Stewart? He was my motm. I thought he had a fantastic game.
08 Jan 2016 22:25:06
Agree with most of your reviews, but think the stand out performers tonite need to be assessed in the first team environment, for me Tex and Smith subs bench at least for the rest of season and others now and again, many positives but impossible to judge them fairly in a cobbled together team.
Monty python were half right he's not the Messiah but he's not a very naughty boy, time will tell, he did ok in difficult circumstances.
08 Jan 2016 22:38:53
Stewart, Smith, Kent, Branagan, Teixera and Ojo all looked good imho.
08 Jan 2016 22:45:38
Stewart kept it simple and did OK?
08 Jan 2016 22:51:30
Between him and Smith for me benny, I thought they were both tidy in possession and helped keep things ticking over for us.
08 Jan 2016 23:36:20
IMO:
- Benteke was invisible. So was Sinclair after about 30 minutes, tbh.
- Illori seemed okay when the ball was on the ground. He misjudged the flights of a few long balls though. Might just be rustiness. Not sure why he suddenly died after about 70 minutes. He didn't seem to actually pick up an injury, and he was no shorter of first team football than most of the other players we had.
- Smith was the best of our young players, followed by Stewart and Randall.
- I'm not sure what to make of Teixeira. In terms of his touch and ability to make space for himself to get on the ball, he was so far ahead of the rest of the players on the pitch that it was kind of funny. I was expecting to praising him to the heavens after the game. But I actually can't remember him doing anything positive in terms of forward passes or runs. Is he a PL quality player waiting to happen, or just a guy with some nice footwork and no impact on the game? Guess we won't know unless he plays more.
- I want to see Ojo start the return leg.
09 Jan 2016 00:14:15
Brannagan was my MOTM. How anybody can say Stewart was bad is beyond me! Only players I were disappointed in were Bogdan, Ilori, Enrique, both full backs in the first half and Benteke.
09 Jan 2016 01:42:24
Smith and Tex, were the picks of the lot for me. Tex and his talent are undeniable. The guy is way too talented for his own good. Just needs more games, coaching and consistency.
09 Jan 2016 03:49:12
Methinks a boggy pitch would slow down the fast feet and ball control of young tex.
08 Jan 2016 22:00:44
Klopps interviews will only be on pay per view soon. You heard it here first.
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08 Jan 2016 22:27:07
I'll pay, loved prematch, tea, no coffee please.
08 Jan 2016 21:58:41
Notes from Exeter game:
1. Chirivella and Texeira are nowhere near ready.
2. Smith will push for a regular place on the team soon. Ojo maybe in 1 1/ 2-2 years.
3. Brannagan et al probably not.
4. Illori looks good on occasion, overly ambitious other times. Like Lovren under Bodgers.
5. FA cup games should be decided by overtime and penalties like league cup.
Over&out.
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08 Jan 2016 22:06:50
Texeira is definitely ready, don't know what game you were watching. Chivirella is definitely too raw though.
Ojo will be pushing by the end of the season in my opinion.
Brannagan looked silky on the ball, I think we simply didn't see enough of him because of the excessive hoofed punts up the field. Ilori can definitely cover our injuries - game time will only aid his confidence (which must be shot after the past couple of years) .
08 Jan 2016 22:07:34
I disagree, Texeira looked good, especially in the first half, did more in 45 mins than Lallana has done all season. Chirivella, yes, looked poor. He was the one I was looking forward to seeing. Sinclair was poor despite scoring.
08 Jan 2016 22:10:02
Would love to hear how you came to that conclusion with tex?
08 Jan 2016 22:20:59
Totally agree. I don't see any fisrt team future to any of our starting 11 tonight other than Smith (this includes Benteke I am afraid to say, even I start to lose hope) .
Fans here have these fantasies about Texeira, Illory et al which I never understood. I was a bit dissapointed tonight at Klopp that he also followed this line of thought and put this bizzar starting line up on the pitch. I really hope he will not repeat it in the replay. It is a bit disrespectful to LFC history in this great competition. And it is not that the FA cup is not important enough for us this season because we fight of the league title or against relegation.
It was a risky and for me unessacery gamble. If we will gamble again we will pay the price eventually. I know we have injured or tired players but we could play Allen, Milner, Can or Lucas at the back, Lallana at least from half time. If we had lost and it was very close the media would have made the most of it and criticize him big time and rightly so, if BR would go with this team he would be choped to pieces.
But we got out of jail os let's leave it at that. One thing is sure. The most safe position in our starting 11 for serious games Mings. Bogdan's goalkeeping is just a continous horror show. How could we have bought so many average players is beyond me.
08 Jan 2016 22:28:54
I suppose we all see different things in games!
NB: this is not being too critical of players - I've seen more experienced sides not put the effort in or come back twice so overall given the team a good result!
Tex - will play better with better players who have the movement - still overall had a good game.
Branagan - apart from a lovely through ball and a defensive clearance I didn't see much - could be attributed to what he was being asked to do for the team.
That being said lots of rain, heavy uneven pitch players not playing with each other / returning from loan etc. we can't complain too much or base it on one game.
What I can say after one game is Danny Murphy is a boring commentator with little knowledge about anything (watches replay of their keeper from behind stopping the ball - that from the other angle shows it crossed the line - it looks ok to him! says Ojo has made a difference; then asks why Lallana hasn't been brought on as he adds assists and goals - not knocking Lallana but you look at his stats this year; says lallana should go see the manager as to why he was brought for the game if not being played - tough - Klopps the manager - he decides who plays and who doesn't - take it as a compliment that he was only going to play if in a dreadful situation) .
08 Jan 2016 22:45:51
Say what you like fanobip your always whinging one way or the other, it's a difference of opinion and to be fair it was an inexperienced team, but nice to see the youth get some much needed game time. They will learn a lot more from tht than playing in the u21s, maybe klopp should of included some experience that's up for debate. for me tho am quite happy and will be happy if he did the same at anfield.
08 Jan 2016 22:49:21
Are you having a laugh? 4 games in 11 days before this and arsenal and utd to come next week and you want klopp to play the fit regulars! Part of managing is prioritising, we have one foot in capital one final are still in Europa and trying to get closer to top 4.BTW they drew the game how is that ddisrespecting lfc hhistory? I would play a very young team again in the replay on the Anfieldsurface we would beat them. Tex and smith stood out for me no coincidence they are in 1st team ssquad already for most games. Illori needs toget fit but he has ssomething about him.
08 Jan 2016 22:50:22
Ilori looks good your havin a laugh pal.
08 Jan 2016 22:56:42
Disagree about Teixera, thought he looked like a player. He is the style of player that will improve vastly with better players around him.
08 Jan 2016 22:58:25
Your a pessimist fanobip. I think more than one will make it. I think you don't grasp the fact they have hardly played first team football if at all in some cases. I think klopp was very brave picking this team but he had to do it.
The first reason being any more injuries and the players that you as have no future will have to be played.
The second is that they needed a rest they have had a hectic schedule and must be knackered.
The third reason we have arsenal and United coming up we need our first team players fresh and ready.
I am glad he picked that team and proud of how they battled back against a team that were very well organised, played very well and the pitch was awful. Think positive and be happy you might like it.
08 Jan 2016 22:58:53
Really fanobip? Here's a thought, how about you just give them a chance and stop using every poxy little thing to make it about BR.
08 Jan 2016 23:00:14
We hardly had any fit players. Klopp knew he had to play a lot of kids so went with kids who knew each other through playing a lot in the reserves together. The kids didn't do so bad I thought. They gained some valuable experience. If Klopp did pick his best possible eleven, lost more players through injury and we got hammered of United and or Arsenal fans would slate him so he couldn't win. He did what he thought was best. We are still in it, we will play again at a later date when possibly have more fit players, even players bought in. We didn't lose any more key players. I don't see what there is to moan about. Remember Notts County? That was mostly a 1st team squad and we didn't play any better.
08 Jan 2016 23:26:01
Knuckles, I didn't whine after we beat Saints 6:1, or City or Chelsea or after we beat Leicester for that matter. I thought we could and should have won this game tonight with slighly stronger line up. If you scroll down you will see that I said before the game that with this starting 11 we are likly to get a draw and a replay which we don't need right now.
Re being impressed or not impressed by players, I admit my standard is a bit higher than if a player doesn't lose the first ball he gets or can run over the first defender he is the new messaiah. I think that players need a bit more skills than that to make it to the first team and this is why I think Smith can make it. He looks ok as a defender, can run with the ball, can pass and cross well and can finish as we saw today (is he better than Moreno though? not sure0. None of the others is good enough and if you read well you see that many here think like me.
09 Jan 2016 01:28:12
I think Smith, Brannagan and Ojo have futures here. Teixeira and Kent probably do too.
09 Jan 2016 01:48:30
Fano, who could have made our team stronger with no senior cb's, and twelve senior players injured. We can barely field a decent first eleven yet you say we could have Mickey a stronger team. Memo: There was no way on this earth that Klopp would have risked any of the first team players who are one run away from pullin a hamstring just to make people like you happy and he has been vindicate. We're still in the Cup so I guess he did great.
08 Jan 2016 21:56:58
Well done to the young lads tonight especially 1st half, don't think Randall will make it as a regular in the 1st team, yes Bogdan has to go as a regular, also disappointed with Benteke.
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08 Jan 2016 22:12:30
Benteke was good with the service he had. Didn't get a lot so very hard to judge the player.
08 Jan 2016 22:37:58
I'm better than Randall. And I'm shit.
Arnt full backs suppost to block the cross!? Seems like everyone in that position is obsessed with attacking/ overlapping, I think he's a better player going forwards than backwards and that's the norm now to be honest.
08 Jan 2016 20:51:39
Blimey,
Please tell me Mignolet has a hamstring.
Would love Bogdan to play on Wednesday, lol.
Evening Gents BTW :-)
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08 Jan 2016 20:56:56
Nice to see you back gunner. I enjoyed your banter in 13.
08 Jan 2016 20:58:23
Lol your in luck mate. Doesn't matter what keeper we play. Both are dodgy.
08 Jan 2016 21:01:01
You must fancy your chances DG this year especially if you get AS back and fit.?
08 Jan 2016 21:02:50
Yeah. Bogdan had a splendid first half vs Exeter. Would love to see him throw a couple in his own net on wednesday. Super idea. Either that or sack Achterberg and get a keeper who's not determined to demonstrate the proper way of hanging laundry on a line 8 times per game.
08 Jan 2016 21:10:50
Come on DG you know both of our keepers are as bad as each other when it comes to crosses.
08 Jan 2016 21:17:14
Pleasure Gents.
Twinkle, I do fancy our chances mate.
We have been bubbling along nicely, even with injuries.
As you say, AS to come back, which is a massive plus.
Man City still scare me though. Just hope Kompany keeps picking up injuries. They are nowhere near as good without him.
08 Jan 2016 21:20:37
Bogdan is trying his hardest to end his lfc career as quickly as possible it seems.
08 Jan 2016 21:31:31
He already has.
08 Jan 2016 21:44:45
That's true DG. He's definitely a big loss. You would think they have enough quality cover for him but it doesn't seem to be the case. It's been crazy season so far. I'd like to see yous doing it this year.
08 Jan 2016 21:53:52
If I'm not mistaken Mignolet has two hamstrings like any other player.
08 Jan 2016 22:02:20
You're going to eat those words Dags.
08 Jan 2016 22:07:47
Dags is it Southampton away that gives you all the confidence for away games?
08 Jan 2016 22:25:49
Definitely Twinkle.
I hope not Ron, lol.
Mighty, nah mate the Soton game was an absolute nightmare, but confident of a win purely based on your injury list.
08 Jan 2016 20:16:24
Ed's
Live chat page not working today?
Cheers.
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{Ed033's Note - Yes it is working
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08 Jan 2016 19:57:00
A lot on.
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08 Jan 2016 19:41:19
The real time live chat page is now open for today's Liverpool match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match.
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08 Jan 2016 19:52:00
Has the chat gone down? I keep getting a blank page.
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08 Jan 2016 19:59:52
It's not working guys.
08 Jan 2016 20:00:53
Yeah i can't get on it either.
08 Jan 2016 20:09:45
Me neither.
08 Jan 2016 20:13:20
Me neither.
08 Jan 2016 20:17:07
The live chat at the top of the page doesn't work but try using the link ed001 has put up under wire08 post worked for me. Using my phone!
08 Jan 2016 20:30:59
Scroll down and click on Ed01 comment for live chat.
08 Jan 2016 19:22:40
Why all the trepidation about Exeter City? Warrington Town beat them last year in the FA Cup. Easy peasy!
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08 Jan 2016 19:32:25
Ed the live chat link please.
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08 Jan 2016 19:08:59
I'am going for us to in 5-0 tonight!
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08 Jan 2016 19:11:19
I'll give Exeter a goal and call it 8-1 to LFC 😎.
08 Jan 2016 19:25:59
A settled team that is used to playing together in the lower leagues is always better than a team if strangers - Nottingham forest stuffed west ham 6-1 last year in cup when allardyce fielded weak team - you can't win anything with kids haha.
08 Jan 2016 19:29:00
We will need all the Klopp magic we can get with these starting 11. I am skeptical, I admit (a draw and a rematch will not be great either), but always happy to give Klopp and the youngsters a chance to surprise me. I just hope if we don't get a result people here will have other excuses than the constant its all Benteke's fault.
08 Jan 2016 19:29:36
Are you lot mad, as someone once said " you won't win anything playing kids "
08 Jan 2016 19:38:09
In only one of Liverpool's 8 league games has more than one team scored - so if Exeter score first then that's basically it :)
08 Jan 2016 19:00:18
Hi ed, with Sinclair starting is this a chance for him to prove himself and get back in the fold or just due to a lack of other options?
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08 Jan 2016 18:56:14
If benteke really is starting tonight, he should be able to have the defenders in his pocket. Or he could be annoyed and think he is too good for the team that's playing. Kind of a lose lose situation for him, he either scores and everyone says yeah but they're league two, or he plays badly and everyone says he's crap, but it'll be a good show of his attitude.
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08 Jan 2016 19:12:30
Well to all those who think benteke ain't going to last at Liverpool. That Klopp is already tired of his performances. He's got the armband tonight.
{Ed001's Note - how is that relevant? You really are not going to tell us this means Klopp is set to keep him to build the team around are you? Who would you have expected to get it in this team?}
08 Jan 2016 19:37:13
That's fair Ed. I'm just saying I doubt Klopp is giving up on benteke just yet.
{Ed001's Note - why? Because he drops him for every big game and then plays him with a youth team while resting every other first team player? I would suggest he is giving him a kick up the arse prior to getting rid if he doesn't take notice of it personally.}
08 Jan 2016 19:43:05
He's probably the most senior guy in team so it makes sense he's got the armband. I think Klopp is giving him extra responsibility and hoping that may spur him on to run. If he does what he normally does and doesn't run about or put himself about I think he's finished with us. He should see tonight as a proud moment to captain the club, and also a way to show he is a leader and professional player.
08 Jan 2016 21:18:07
Benteke should be showing for the ball and bossing this exeter defence. As usual its a passive display from someone with so much talent. Oh dear, does he not realise this is his big chance and he will unlikely to be given a better opportunity than this moment in his career.
08 Jan 2016 17:27:03
Texerias playing. I'm delighted.
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08 Jan 2016 18:45:04
Is there a live chat eds.
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08 Jan 2016 18:52:59
Catch you later then, just having some scran.
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08 Jan 2016 18:57:07
The live chat is great eds!
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08 Jan 2016 19:05:29
What time does live chat start?
{Ed001's Note - it already has. It opens an hour before kick off.}
08 Jan 2016 19:10:24
Is there a link to live chat tonight?
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08 Jan 2016 19:15:49
How can I access the live chat usijg my mobile phone Ed001?
{Ed001's Note - click on the above link and it should work fine on there.}
08 Jan 2016 19:16:14
Cheers Ed!
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08 Jan 2016 19:16:25
How do I log on the live chat?
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08 Jan 2016 17:26:46
Being from Plymouth and being a lifelong Liverpool fan whilst following Argyle as my local team, I obviously got as much of a hatred towards Exeter as I do Everton/ Man u, really hope Klopp doesn't take this game for granted too much as uses enough 1St teamers to see us through, going to miss the game as ironically I'm travelling to Liverpool for a family party tomorrow!
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08 Jan 2016 19:01:59
Liverpool: Bogdan, Randall, Ilori, Enrique, Smith, Brannagan, Stewart, Teixeira, Kent, Sinclair, Benteke. Subs: Fulton, Lallana, Lucas, Ojo, Maguire, Chirivella, Masterson.
Confirmed team for tonight.
08 Jan 2016 17:06:59
Eds, please stop letting Charljo post his team on every single post haha.
Charljo, let's hope you're correct or you're going to look a right mug ;) looks like a 4-4-2 diamond if you are correct.
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08 Jan 2016 16:35:09
Just for a bit of fun, Here's Dane Swan the most open and honest AFL players out there, talking about his warm up, training and injuries from about 1 minute 40 onwards. Bear in mind this guy won the player of the year award and is still one of the best players in the game today, where hamstring injuries are very prevalent, from about 1 minute 40 seconds in you'll see how seriously he takes it, he's a funny chap too.
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08 Jan 2016 15:59:30
Anyone have any ideas about what's happening or going to happen with Markovic? Read he maybe sold.
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08 Jan 2016 17:27:56
He'll almost certainly be sold and probably at his own request. It will take him two years to get his career back on track after the damage we've done to it. And we'll be lucky to get even half of what we paid.
08 Jan 2016 17:45:48
Fernebache are interested in signing him for a third of what we bought him for. "Great" piec of business by those involved who brought him here without an idea on what to do with him.
08 Jan 2016 15:02:28
I saw Klopps comment on how not many of these players tonight have played together. Anyway it got me thinking that he could go with a front 3 of Wilson, Kent and Ojo. They all played together for over a year at youth level and they were brilliant together. Wilson played in a behind closed doors friendly against Morecambe on Tuesday and I believe scored a good goal. It would probably be a more fluid attack than if Benteke was shoved in there as the 3 young lads have already built up relationships on the pitch and proven they can score goals as a trio. Just a thought. If Klopp has asked Inglethorpe for any advice on the youngsters then I'm sure this would've been mentioned.
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08 Jan 2016 15:57:08
Liverpool Team Tonite
Bogdan, Randall, illori, Enrique, Smith, . Brannagan, Kev stewart, Texiera, . Kent, sinclair, Benteke. Wait and See.
08 Jan 2016 16:14:58
I think it will be
Mignolet.
Randall.
Lucas.
Ilori.
Smith.
Milner. Capt.
Can.
Teixera.
Chiravella.
Benteke.
Firmino.
I think he should try and get the win then start bringing off some of the first teamers.
08 Jan 2016 16:30:43
Are "Wait" and "see" from the U21 or U18 squad? ;o)
08 Jan 2016 18:06:32
The funny thing about this game is that Exeter will now be the big favorites and our youth will have nothing to lose hence, we`ll see how Exeter handle being favorites. Interesting.
08 Jan 2016 18:59:18
Charljo's team is the one doing the rounds on twitter.
08 Jan 2016 14:55:50
Jose Enquire to start center half tonight!
I read somewhere!
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08 Jan 2016 15:57:32
Liverpool Team Tonite
Bogdan, Randall, illori, Enrique, Smith, . Brannagan, Kev stewart, Texiera, . Kent, sinclair, Benteke. Wait and See.
08 Jan 2016 14:21:24
Hi eds, ...........
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{Ed002's Note - This is the Liverpool page.}
08 Jan 2016 14:05:58
Whys souness having a go at klopp. when he was manager I remember the injuries being so bad, Sammy Lee was on the wing. (he was part of the backroom staff at the time) . And I think Gary ablett was either in midfield or pushed forward. Shambles. Not sure if the injuries were down to him or Phil boersma.
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08 Jan 2016 14:43:06
Lee playing on the wing under Souness for Liverpool, while he was reserve team coach, I don't think so mate. He may of put himself on in one of his own reserve games.
08 Jan 2016 14:53:29
Did you dream that Roller. Souness sold Ablett Six month before Lee came back to the club. I agree the team suffered injury crisis under Souness, mainly the aging players.
08 Jan 2016 18:11:01
Souness should put a sock in it. The injuries come as a result of the way the players have been training. They are not fit enuff to play a high energy game hence, they are being pushed due to Klopp`s training regimen. We played a high tempo game under BR for 6 months and I didn`t see a problem there so either they were fit enuff then and are no longer fit enuff now which calls into question the level of training and fitness regimen for this season before Klopp got here. Also, playing every 3 days for 6 weeks doesn`t help either. Souness should know that instead mouthing off media talking points.
{Ed001's Note - actually the injuries, interestingly enough, have come while the team have not been training, as they have been only doing recovery work between matches. Which suggests all these so-called 'experts' talking about the training being too tough are about as expert as my gran.}
08 Jan 2016 14:04:02
Hi eds, I think everyone is getting a bit over excited over this goetze interview. Obviously he can't say he would sign but he never exactly denied he was interested. Do you know if Liverpool hold any interest? Thanks in advance.
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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not shown any interest whilst others have.}
08 Jan 2016 14:48:05
The only way we can even think about trying to buy him would be if coutinho moves.
08 Jan 2016 12:45:08
Eds, at the risk of being crucified, I am going to ask whether you know anything about a rumor that came out from Bild and Paul Joyce at the Express.
"Klopp's number one transfer target in the summer will be Mario Gozte"
Can you see any truth in it? Given his mere squad role at Bayern do you think he could be pursued?
Thanks.
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{Ed002's Note - There has been no interest from Liverpool.}
08 Jan 2016 11:48:08
Hi eds, just wondering is there any interest from the club in Joao Mario from sporting?
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{Ed002's Note - There is interest from elsewhere - not Liverpool.}
08 Jan 2016 14:08:12
We're after his Korean half brother
Soo per Mario.
08 Jan 2016 16:32:16
Shame we ended up with Soo Poor Mario!
08 Jan 2016 13:32:46
If we make any move for Subotic hopefully a loan to buy (first option) will be entailed.
A win win situation for all really. Subotic gets needed gametime and we get decent cover with only a loan fee involved.
Who knows he could end up being a masterstroke.
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08 Jan 2016 13:15:32
Am I alone in thinking we're panic buying? Wouldn't it be better to get through the next few weeks with what we have? Can can play centre half and we have a few youngsters that can step in too.
I just feel the squad is already very bloated. Unless Klopp believes the likes of Subotic and others we're looking at are going to improve the squad long term, I really don't see the point.
Thoughts?
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08 Jan 2016 13:20:21
Who have we panic bought?
08 Jan 2016 13:28:36
I'll re-phrase. "about to panic buy' maybe?
It seems we're being linked with a fair few players atm. Non of these seem anything above the type of players that were brought in under Branda.
Hopefully it's just speculation. I was hoping we wouldn't buy anybody in Jan and just offload some.
08 Jan 2016 13:35:33
My understanding is we're looking at loans not purchases which seems prudent.
08 Jan 2016 13:44:18
I hope so. We already have half a dozen players on the books that we need to offload in the summer. The last thing we need is permanent additions that aren't the long term quality we need.
08 Jan 2016 14:14:59
If we were about to 'panic buy' everytime we were linked with a player we'd have a squad of about 700 players by now. The loan recalls are an indication that's exactly what we don't intend to do. Loans or loads to buy will be the most we'll do in Jan ( other tha grujic) i reckon.
08 Jan 2016 14:51:01
What youngsters do we have that will fill in at centre back in the premier league? The only one who has been mentioned is Lloyd Jones and he's injured.
08 Jan 2016 18:13:04
We can barley field a decent first eleven at the moment so again, how are we panic-buying?
08 Jan 2016 11:48:00
Fellow reds and eds,
I'm excited at the prospect of seeing what our young talent recently recalled from loan can do, especially as it does seem (and has been repeatedly mentioned by the eds) that the loans these kids have been on have not been thought out in anyway whatsoever to be of benefit to their development. Hopefully under the guidance of Klopp and being around the 1st / training together etc they will develop more. And hopefully will only go out on loan of it is to a club that plays a similar style or will actually give them the game time and support they need to develop. Going back to the injury crisis, as I mentioned earlier it's unfortunately not a huge surprise the numbe of injuries. The ACL's for Gomez and ings were extremely unlucky (and it does seem like there has been a large number of ACL's this season) . The hamstring injuries are a combination of not having a good pre season (lacking strength and endurance work) which may be Rodgers' fault or his strength and conditioning coach (if he had complete control over what was done) . Klopp's training methods and style of play is extremely demanding and by the team attempting to be brought up to speed in-season is clearly very taxing and unfortunately trying to play at high intensity on fatigued muscles can lead to soft tissue injuries. There's no point in trying to place blame on Rodgers or Klopp or even the fitness coach. It is what it is. We have to deal with it and move on, as I stated in an earlier post I expect to see us being a lot fitter and energetic next season without anywhere as near as many soft tissue strains. Ligament tears can be due to lack of adequate muscle strength and control but a lot of it is down to incidental contacts and this is very hard to plan for. Sorry for the long post. further I think Klopp is very muc doing the right thing with studge and the "mini-preseason" he clearly needs extra strengthening and conditioning and I really hope they've got some one working on his core strength which may actually give him a reprieve from the injury issues (possibly) . As I mentioned in an earlier post I'm a musculoskeletal Physio (sorry really not trying to blow my own horn here) but if people were keen for my input on some injuries etc i'd be happy to post a few bits and pieces as I'm able to? Read the site multiple times in the day. Full kudos to the eds and the majority of intelligent and interesting conversations from all posters.
Again sorry for the novel!
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08 Jan 2016 12:26:08
a paragraph or 2 would have been nice.
08 Jan 2016 12:27:34
They will not do well in exeter match. There is no training they got. So likely a disjointed performance today.
08 Jan 2016 13:02:39
I would have considered Ojo's loan to be working out well, gaining good experience in a tough league.
Ilori's was very bad alright.
08 Jan 2016 13:20:33
Ojo hasn't featured much at Wolves this last few months. Their fans think he was a good impact player but not a starter. He is still very young, so let's not judge him too soon.
08 Jan 2016 13:24:11
I enjoyed the read.
Don't know about the others Q but i'd be quite interested in ways in which they should be strenghthening the hamstrings in order to stop the pulls/ tears? Particular exercises in the gym or would it be on the training ground?
08 Jan 2016 13:26:36
He was injured for a period which didn't help FYI.
08 Jan 2016 13:36:14
Nothing wrong with an essay :-)
08 Jan 2016 11:03:58
Norwich have just signed a right back from Dinamo Zagreb. Hopefully we will recall Wisdom.
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08 Jan 2016 10:16:57
Don't know why the media are making such a big deal about all our injuries.
lets face it the players which are injured except Henderson maybe all have shocking injury records anyway.
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08 Jan 2016 11:05:55
The media (sky, bt, etc) are blaming klopp so nobody talks about their role in all this, tv scheduling put us playing Wednesday night, Saturday morning, Tuesday night and Friday night which gives virtually no recovery time, could things have been different if we played Saturday afternoon, Saturday afternoon and Tuesday night?
{Ed002's Note - As long as it is someone elses fault.}
08 Jan 2016 11:10:47
Isn't that the role of the media nowadays? They have gone from sharing informed opinions to forming peoples' opinions. I imagine they want to remain relevant and that is why they are getting desperate, with more and more people moving away from mainstream media.
Conditioning players to deal with more demanding playing styles takes time and the increase of bodily and mental stress does result in injuries. It will be more than worth it in the long run and we all just need to be patient and supportive of our club, manager and players.
08 Jan 2016 11:15:48
Its as bad an injury period at Liverpool that i have witnessed in a long time.
08 Jan 2016 11:23:48
Well if you are happy enough to take all the tv cash then i guess you have to suck it up. i'm looking forward to tonight actually. I hope Liverpool get stuck in and Klopp gets the youngsters fired up.
08 Jan 2016 11:28:07
The Media do it with every team they don't just single out Liverpool. They build people up to knock them down. A story is a story. It's let get Klopp now, Van Gaal last week, before that it was Jose at Chelsea. I wouldn't take it personal. They ask leading questions and if someone bites, they have a story. It's their job.
08 Jan 2016 11:35:42
I have been seeing all these posts about injuries and people saying its due to scheduling and Brendans pre season, but let's face it, it's down to Klopp, he is adapting to the rigors of English football and its a learning curve for him, you can't come into a group of players at this stage of the season and beast them 3 days a week and have them play twice a week in such a competitive and fast paced league it's an injury waiting to happen, yes he did it at dortmund but with the winter break they don't have the freezing conditions or the 6/ 7 high quality games within a few weeks. So Klopp's made a mistake it happens, let's just move on and watch him grow as a premier league manager.
08 Jan 2016 11:35:42
I have been seeing all these posts about injuries and people saying its due to scheduling and Brendans pre season, but let's face it, it's down to Klopp, he is adapting to the rigors of English football and its a learning curve for him, you can't come into a group of players at this stage of the season and beast them 3 days a week and have them play twice a week in such a competitive and fast paced league it's an injury waiting to happen, yes he did it at dortmund but with the winter break they don't have the freezing conditions or the 6/ 7 high quality games within a few weeks. So Klopp's made a mistake it happens, let's just move on and watch him grow as a premier league manager.
08 Jan 2016 10:11:56
So, Bild (obviously not a trustworthy source before someone says it) are reporting that Klopp is making a move for Mario Gotze. While I highly doubt this, I do get the feeling that having a manager like Klopp means these things aren't impossible.
If I heard the same rumour when Rodgers was manager I would've said no, never going to happen and laughed it off. However Klopp has the pull of a world class manager, and has worked with these players before, so who knows?
Opinions guys?
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08 Jan 2016 10:39:11
Klopps always brought young developed and sold on for more. I think his most expensice signing was immobile. no way will we pay big money for gotze unless coutinho goes. In which case i'd rather max meyer.
08 Jan 2016 10:48:27
another number 10. sounds right!
08 Jan 2016 10:49:10
I would say the only way on this earth this will happen is if Coutinho leaves for a similar fee. Even then I can see it being Alexis Sanchez all over again. If we don't get CL I think we can def rule it out completely. I don't watch a massive amount of football outside the EPL, but firstly isn't he a starter for Bayern? In which case why would the club want him to leave, and why would he pick us over them? secondly doesn't he have a poor injury record? Thirdly, if he is the type of player we are looking for, isn't Klopp more likely to dig around the Zanzibar third tier for 'the new Gotze'?
08 Jan 2016 12:29:41
If coutinho go i like to see texira or firmino in that role.
08 Jan 2016 04:40:50
Ed002, It has been mentioned many times on this site, about Allen heading back to Swansea, which is probably a good thing for both the club and himself. ( Tries hard, but not quite top level) .
Would there be any chance of Liverpool looking to do a deal where Andre Ayew move in the opposite direction? Good player in my opinion, direct, quick enough, scores, good skills, and would be a real help for Benteke.
LFC haven't had a top winger since Steve McManaman in my opinion, and I would love to see Klopp bring a couple in.
Seem to remember we looked at Ayew a few windows back? Was it Bodgers?
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{Ed002's Note - No.}
08 Jan 2016 13:13:24
Player of the month in August wasn't he? I think he's shown he's inconsistent since, the team playing poorly wouldn't have helped but he's part of that team.
08 Jan 2016 09:53:33
So get rid of a player who isn't top level in your eyes to bring in another player who is. Only sign players who are better than what you have.
08 Jan 2016 02:34:02
To add to the debate about who is to blame for all the hamstrings. All I can say as someone with elite sports science knowlege (I was drafted into the AFL but never made it) A lot of the blame has to go to the fitness coach. Its up to them to tell the manager when players are in the RED zone and need resting. The manager will want to field the best team he has to win. Its then up to both the player to be honest, and the fitness staff to be able to say "you can't play this player because reasons A, B and C.
Does klopp have his own fitness people at the club? if so then it is unfortunately Klopps fault. I don't expect this to happen again under Klopp though.
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{Ed001's Note - oh no not this red zone crap. It is the red zone crap that is as much part of the problem as anything. That is exactly what went wrong, and constantly goes wrong around the league, and causes the mass of injuries players have these days. They stop training because they are tired, is the basic thinking. It is crap. The only reason players used to be able to play so hard in the past, and they may not have played at the speed of new players but they went through a lot more punishment, is because they trained harder. If you do not push your body beyond its limits, then it is not improving. They are being mollycoddled ridiculously and then people are wondering why they are always injured!}
08 Jan 2016 05:58:32
Ed001, Does Pochettino push players beyond their limits? Just asking as we are trying to add their style of pressing into our game, and it seems to work for Spurs this season. I do agree though, not training is silly if players need more strength in their legs.
{Ed001's Note - they do extra training sessions over other clubs, so he must do.}
08 Jan 2016 06:44:15
Fully agree with Ed. These are young, tough, athletes who should be able to push the boundaries of their physical capabilities. Building up their endurance, power and fitness is vital to maintain a high level. Unfortunately, it's also survival of the fittest - if you have a weakness or are injury-prone your heights and length of your career may be reduced.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall players in the 70s and 80s being continually out for 6-12 months with tears and strains in the same way that Sturridge or Kewell have (more broken bones then maybe)? And, in the modern game, a player such as Suarez who hardly ever misses a game through injury is a rarity.
{Ed001's Note - they trained harder then, players like Suarez still do.}
08 Jan 2016 07:17:07
I think too much is being made of this "injury crisis" and it's timing.
This is not an uncommon phenomenon in football and it's not even uncommon at our club. I remember a similar "injury crisis" when Souness came in and for a while the press blamed him too.
Arsenal and Wenger are huge proponents of this "red zone" theory. I have 2 names for them to consider - Jack Wilshere and Theo Walcott.
This fixture pile up is also nothing new. The players should be fit enough to cope. If they are not, the responsibility is a joint one - the players themselves and the previous regime.
I'm not one for blaming everything on the previous regime but facts are facts. Almost every year our players have been spent by April. If Kloppo is addressing that then I'll take some short term injuries in the squad. It gives him chance to evaluate some loanees and fringe players.
08 Jan 2016 07:38:58
As a former Royal marine I have some experience with the training methods to hat ed001 is referring too, if you stop you fail whilst training and your body is constantly pushed through it limits to reach peaks that you wouldn't think possible. as he states nobody would ever get to these peaks is you stop when your tired.
{Ed001's Note - exactly, it is the same with endurance athletes, they go beyond the red zone in every training session. They have to.}
08 Jan 2016 09:19:02
Jack wilshere and theo's injuries have nothing to do with the red zone.
Wilshere has weak ankles and other reasons why he misses matches through ''injury''
Walcott as with daniel sturridge will have injury problems due to the fast twitch msucles.
With regards to what Aussie Mark says. Australia for me is pretty much at the forefront of any ACL and Hamstring injuries, it's a very common occurrence in their national sport owing to the way they kick the ball and need to explode into the air. The players do a lot of work around strengthening the hamstring in the off season which I don't think the LFC players will have done, and also the warm ups are a lot more thorough than anything I've ever seen int he Premier league.
I don't personally think, you can really compare endurance sports with contact sports. the requirement strains on muscles is vastly different, you don't over stretch trying to win a tackle, you don't have to change direction or pace constantly, etc the variables are completely different.
08 Jan 2016 09:38:24
Clyne, Moreno, Can and lallana have played nearly every game under Klopp and haven't been injured, so if it was totally down to overload surely they would be the first one's to get injured.
Players used to love Pre-Season under Rodger's because he didn't push them that hard and just got them to kick a ball around. This is one of the reasons we have suffered so badly with injuries because the players aren't in good enough condition to cope with the increase in intensity.
I will be very surprised if they don't get beasted in pre season next year and we should hopefully see a lot less injuries.
08 Jan 2016 10:31:20
I like walls assertion about Clyne and co, so the question is what have these guys done right that the others with hamstring injuries are not doing?
To buy or not to buy, that is the question
Even if Ings and sturridge return imo, we still need a hustler of an attacker someone in the mold of Suarez, even if he is a winger/ 10 like Shaqiri. This would add more pace to the team and bring more goal threats.
Right now it is sad to watch others trying to pick out Benteke and he knocking the ball down only for the ball to be recovered by the opposition.
As someone once said, loosing is bad enough, but the way you lose also leaves a lot to be desired.
08 Jan 2016 11:48:34
xpertoyin, Ings is good at pressing and pressuring the opposition's defenders as witnessed by his performances when he was fit. The team was just not pressing as a unit so we weren't reaping the benefits.
I do not think we need a striker unless we sell Benteke, Yesil, Dunn and let Sinclair go, even then probably a youngster with potential a couple of years away from being ready to step-up. Two first team strikers (Sturridge and Ings) and a back-up one (Origi) still learning his trade should be enough to keep them all happy with playing opportunities.
As for rest of the attacking positions we should probably wait for the end-of-season evaluation of the performances of Firmino, Ibe, Kent, Wilson, Ojo, Teixeira, Brannagan and what happens with Couts, Lallana, Markovic and Milner. I've probably forgot someone as well.
08 Jan 2016 09:58:50
Its also down to an own persons body. For example I need to rest after games or I am at risk of injury, due to my running style (not the smoothest - I put a lot of pressure on my knees and hips) . Daniel sturridge needs extra rest due to the amount of strain his muscles go through in a match.
You have to addapt training for individuals you can't just say because x player/ person managed this you cab or we would all have the same capabilities and life would be good for people who can't do the stuff done other people can.
I said at the start my worry with klopp was coming in with a caveman mentality that everyone has to pull there wieght and pushing everyone the sane, simple because not everyone can do the same.
It isn't a coinicidencr that wr are suffering as bad with injuries as Dortmund were last year.
Someone like lovren might be able to get the same amount of fitness running 5 miles as skrtel might have running 10.
This will hopefully of been a learning curve for klopp and he might adapt his training now or he will stick the same and just play the players who can handle it.
07 Jan 2016 22:27:38
Hi ed 001
Just wondering on where you see our youth heading with Klopp in charge. I asked you a while back about rossiter and you were very positive about him wanting to stay but he still hasn't signed on with us. Are the club just not putting contracts on the table to currently injured players? I notice Flanagan is in the same boat. I know Sinclair is as good as gone but I'm hoping we give chances to the like of Kent, pedro C, Ojo, wisdom, Wilson rather than continuously spending massive amounts on average players. If even like to see ilori given a chance even if he couldn't get into the villa team.
Would appreciate your insights pal.
Many thanks as always.
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{Ed001's Note - Flanno had a new contract to see him through until his return, once he returns he will get the chance to earn a new one. Rossiter's issue is that he is not convinced he is wanted enough, but that is because his level dropped a bit in the last couple of years and his progress stalled. Maybe the early hype went to his head a little, like it did with Sterling and now Sinclair? Doesn't help that these kids have *censored* like Aidy Ward whispering in their ears all the time.}
08 Jan 2016 07:28:09
And also as soon as they have a few good games at u21 level been branded the new maldini, iniesta or messi. That's like an office apprentice doing well n been told one day you will be MD.
08 Jan 2016 07:52:35
Klopp yesterday was talking (in reference to recalling our Ojo and Ilori) that we would no longer be sending out on loan our best talent and will be integrating them into the team. I know that doesn't count as official policy but seemed relevant.
08 Jan 2016 10:01:20
I think we all owe it to the academy lads to stop following them, stop talking about them and take no notice of what they do.
That is meant to be nice.
Then there's no extra pressure on them.
Up to now we have Wilson. as the enxy bale, we have had the names (Scholes, Gerrard and yaya) all used when talking about rossiter. You can't know either wether these players take it to heart and start belueveing in and also we expect to much of them. Rossiter could literally need 100 starts in the middle for Liverpool before we start reaping the rewards.
07 Jan 2016 22:08:39
Ed001 just to simplify for us lesser mortals. Is it the training that is causing the injuries or is it the players need to build up their fitness to cope with the intense training.
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{Ed001's Note - both. Once the players are fitter, they will suffer less injuries, but hard training will always run the risk of causing injury.}
08 Jan 2016 06:50:08
so why does ed002 think it's all Klopp's wrongdoing and that the players are fit enough? I'd like to see you debate this with him!
{Ed001's Note - I have no idea, but I am pretty sure he does not think it is all Klopp's doing.}
08 Jan 2016 11:20:28
Ah, i see what you did there Nick. Trying to play one Ed of against the other? Not clever! Its all about opinions my man, everybody has them.
08 Jan 2016 11:45:23
There's nothing wrong with a bit of debate, Rover.
08 Jan 2016 10:02:41
Its klopps fault if he didn't adapt the training around the month of hecticness we have just had, if he kept training the same throughout then its his fault.
His rotation in games has been none existent as well.
07 Jan 2016 18:29:17
Eds have you ever seen those coach companies that offer travel and tickets to Wembley on finals and things?
How do they go about securing so many tickets to sell? Do they get a special deal with the club for buying so many or something?
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{Ed001's Note - no idea mate sorry.}
08 Jan 2016 07:53:36
Commercial supplier agreements.
08 Jan 2016 02:55:43
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Man oh Man Utd!!!
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08 Jan 2016 00:56:12
Just been told, that our official supporters club cannot get tickets for Augsburg - Liverpool We contacted some agencies, too, but they cannot guarante that they will get tickets, so it looks like there will be no organised trip, although there is a lot of interest in this match here in Slovenia. This was my first chance to see our boys in live but it looks that I will have to wait a bit longer. I got to try and ask, is there anyone who can help us out? :)
Well at least I can hope, that we go through and get someone close to Slovenia, again :D.
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08 Jan 2016 00:23:41
A newspaper's reporting that Enrique is set to start at CB tomorrow. I haven't got a clue if that's good, bad, bizarre, reassuring or desperation.
Maybe it's the start of an epic comeback. I'm so confused :-/.
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08 Jan 2016 06:48:10
Our defensive situation could be that bad that we would play Moreno as a centre half, but surely it isn't so bad that we need to play Enrique?
08 Jan 2016 10:25:00
He played 90 minutes at CB for the U21s against United and Everton and didn't do terribly. There literally is no other option. Hopefully he'll do ok against Exeter, although I am slightly concerned he might stop for a selfie at some point and cause us to concede a goal.
08 Jan 2016 00:07:12
I had something else on so was going to miss the Exeter game, but with a bunch of young faces potentially getting a run, I'm ditching my plans and watching the match. Silver lining and all that and sounds a bit strange, but I'm looking forward to this game more than I have for a while.
Lots of talk about Ilori and I'm already feeling a bit nervous for the lad. There's no way he's anywhere near match fit, but let's hope for the best.
I'm more looking forward to seeing Kent get a game and maybe a few minutes for Ojo.
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08 Jan 2016 07:55:37
Why wouldn't he be match fit? If he had any sense he'd have spent the last few months working his ass off trying desperately to impress enough in training to make the field, he should be chomping at the bit and fully ready to go.
08 Jan 2016 08:12:24
There is a difference between fit and match fit!
07 Jan 2016 23:34:53
Eds was the latest with byram. I've read somewhere its between us and west ham, but more likely us due too west hams ffp issues. Am i reading rubbish again haha?
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{Ed002's Note - Try the Leeds page - there are no FFP issues at WHU.}
07 Jan 2016 21:28:44
What I want to know, is who has the bigger poster on their bedroom wall. harry with a poster of suarez, or ed002 with his posters of harry and Llori?
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08 Jan 2016 01:23:02
Here I was hoping ed002 had me on his wall.
08 Jan 2016 04:10:27
Surely all the Ed's have posters of themselves? :)
07 Jan 2016 21:12:42
Good evening Ed002
I hope your well mate.
Can you confirm please if we are trying ( like you have suggested we might ) trying to bring in Subotic on loan with a view to permanent deal?
Appreciate if you can't say at this stage, just thought I'd ask. Seems more likely than the Frog man from Inter?
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{Ed002's Note - The critical thing will be not to buy for the sake of it and not to buy anyone who cannot improve the team or is not at some point wanted. Subotic fits the bill and Liverpool need to see if they can figure out a deal with Dortmund. A really good option.}
08 Jan 2016 01:03:02
Sorry ed002, this might have been asked already but do u thing subotic would improve our 1st 11. Sakho is our No1 centre back so I'm wondering would subotic slot in beside him or is he an upgrade on what we have already.
If it has been asked already I apologise in advance.
{Ed002's Note - As I have explained - Subotic will be a better bet than the likes of Matip, Grossass, Pato and all of the other "done deals".}
08 Jan 2016 00:45:14
What do you think of Subotic's injury record ed? There's a bit of a debate out there over whether he's too injury prone or not. Apparently he's had back problems this season. Would he really fit the bill if he's supposed to mitigate an injury crisis with our centre backs?
{Ed002's Note - I think nothing of it.}
08 Jan 2016 05:31:21
Nick, I was under the impression that he is now over any of his injury problems just that he isn't in favour with Dortmunds manager at present. As the Ed said, a very good option and clearly an improvement to our current squad. I would think its is an easy decision for Klopp to make. I hope its made.