Liverpool Banter Archive September 07 2010

 

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07 Sep 2010 23:43:58

I think roy should snap up albrighton from villa, he looks promising and could flourish under roys guidence plus we always seem 2 miss out on the english youngsters (walcott, milner, johnson)

Big Bird Billy Lfc 4 Life. {ed's note - like Shelvey you mean?}

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 23:13:50

I saw a figure on I think the Mirror website saying there were an estimated 150 million LFC fans worldwide. Sounds crazy now that I think about it, but the club is popular in so many countries its unbelievable. Lots flocked to MUFC in the last 20 yrs because of the endless successes, but just think- isn't it incredible that despite no league title for two decades, LFC still has the image and the charisma to attract the interest and loyalty of millions of fans worldwide. The town of Liverpool, and even the UK, now holds just a small fraction of the huge number of fans who follow this club- its truly a global entity.
With a solid financial backing, a new stadium, and just a few more key players, LFC are going to be a match for any team in the premiership.

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 22:22:52
To the person who said "David moores is involved with a middle eastern consortium to buy back the club. . ." - your rumour is as good at making me feel suicidal as my suggestions that one of the yanks are going to buy the other. Not true! otherwise I'll smash what's around me. Would love to be in the ring with Hicks or gealette junior (forgive spelling as I am too angry) life is long and the world is a suitcase. . I'll meet one of ther m. . .ing americans at least once in my life. .

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 22:22:25

Alexies Sanchez to be our next number 7

LFC 4 Life

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 22:05:20

David moores is involved with a middle eastern consortium to buy back the club. . .

I don't think David Moores would be welcome at Anfield and rightly so he's the main cause of the sh*t we are in now.

So can anyone honestly see Moores ever coming back? I still don't think he's lifted his head above 5 feet yet as it is weighed down with shame.

Blair Mayne YNWA


IT SEEMS CLEAR TO ME THAT BOTH MOORES AND PARRY LACKED THE BUSINESS AND FINACIAL KNOWLEDGE TO 'FLUSH OUT' THE BIG BOYS' WITH MASSIVE PERSONAL WEALTH, FORCING THEM TO ACCEPT THE H&G OFFER AND ALL IT INVOLVED.


You're forgetting Sheikh Mohammed/ DIC were hours away from buying LFC before Moores took more money from the G&H offer than DIC had offered.

Moores was not forced into selling to G&H he sold it to them for one reason MORE MONEY!

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 21:49:10

Hi ED, How many liverpool fans are there?100,000 / 400,000 / 700,000 or over a million world wide

liverman
{Editor's note - I will go get my super Calculator but I am sure there is more than a million worldwide.}

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 21:38:36

Take over news, coming soon within weeks

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 21:21:39
Dear Editor,
It feels like you have a grudge against me just bcause I suggested LFC ned to spend heavily.
Heavily is a relative term. We need a striker and a right winger. I confess I am a plastic supporter who's only contribution is 5 pounds per week for lfc tv. I went to only one game, opener at Middlsborough several years ago, but I still love our club and I 'm not sure if I love the Beatles because I love LFC or vica versa. I just hope we do well this season and I am behind Roy but still think we need to streanghen.
Red Herr Ing

{EDITOR'S NOTE: No grudge mate }

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 21:13:30

G&H can't just ask for refinance from Barclays Capital it needs to be a board decision and I am sure that in the best interests of LFC the three other members would block that move. Currently the reputation of Purslow and Broughton hangs in the balance and judgement of fans will be decided on what happens next. Listening to the fans on this site and around the Kop I feel a real sense of frustration turning to anger. I hate to think what would happen if the takeover was not completed. Would any board member be able to step inside Anfield. Currently Hicks and Gillett don't attend on Police advice.
If refinancing was allowed LFC would go into meltdown. All the star players would leave and who could we attract. LFC future is on the line!

 

 

07 Sep 2010 21:10:40

Rumour that garteh Barry is s* t no wait it's FACT

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 19:27:33


Hi Ed. . .I'm really starting to think that we are the stupidest club when it comes to the transfer market! !. . .I just read in the LFCTV web site that ourselves Arsenal and Spurs are fighting to sign "Barcelona sensation Oriol Romeu" who is an 18 year old defensive midfielder. . He is supposed to be the next big thing to come out of the nou camp but likely to find it too hard to break into the established starting 11. . .My question is Why the hell didn't we include him in the Mascherano deal?!?!. .If we had demanded him to be included, you have to asume we would have got him for nexed to nothing considering their obssesion with Masch. .The article said that we had the young lad monitered last season so we've obviously known about him for a while, so why have we left it to get to the point where we'll have to battle it out with Wenger and Spurs when it is becoming increasingly obvious that we're finding it hard to lure players to us if they have a choice between Arsenal or Spurs?!?!?!. . I just don't get it? . . .
. . Make me feel better please Ed.


SI


YNWA {ed's note - I think we all find some of the transfer decisions made by the club baffling, look at the Alonso to Real Madrid transfer. We could have signed some excellent, much-needed, players as part of that deal, instead we wasted the cash on an injury-prone Aquilani.}

. . to add to that, not so much in the case of Mascherano, but Fabregas, Arsenal were seeing their backsides over Barca's pursuit of him, yet isn't it ironic that they could be trying to poach yet another one of Barca's youngsters for next to nothing. .

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 19:25:59

"Sad to hear Phil Thompson is going to Aston Villa with Gerard Houllier. He is really good on Sky Sports Soccer Saturday, always defending Liverpool. Unfortunately if he leaves the programme we will be forced to listen to a massive anti Liverpool bias from the other pundits (Merson, Le Tissier etc) and the presenter Jeff Stelling. Believable or unbelievable?"

UNBELIEVABLE JEFF!

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 19:24:15

Well, I don't have many connections but I know one guy who is a prominent member of a group of fans who are trying to introduce fans ownership at arse e nal, he said that his club and LFC are fighting for Serge Aurier from Lens (France). .

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 19:09:16
Injured Kyut is blessing in disguise. Go on Amoo! !
Red Her Ing

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 19:06:52

If they are going to legally challenge RBS trying to sell the club, then I hope I'm going to meet them both walking down the street and then kick the s* t out of them. s* t, wish I met one of them but it's unlikely as the b* tards probably don't walk without bodygards.
Red Herr Ing

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 18:52:54
No disrespect to Thompson but for me he wasn't a man motuvator in the dug out he just shouted at players for 90 mins. If he was a good coach why didn't he go into Management? He did my head in on Sky Sports News as well. I swam with his sona Danny an Phil an have met him a few times. I have no doubt the man lives and breathes LFC but that doesn't mean he's magic. Liverpool have also had better players. Let's not forget this is the man who helped to force Robbie Fowler out of the door.

Spriggo

 

 

07 Sep 2010 18:52:54

Ed1or2or3or4 HI ED I CANT WORK IT OUT IT WAS FULL STEAM AHEAD THERE WAS A BIG BUZZ TAKEOVER THIS? BUYOUT THAT? NOW DEAD FLAT LFC? GOOD NEWS TURNS OUT TO BE 2 GOOD TO BE TRUE AN SO IT WAS, , , , , , , , , ( ARE) LIVERPOOL FC, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , BACK TO NO HOPE IN SIGHT) O AN ED (RUMOURS)WILL START TO FLY ALL DAY LONG WITH NEWS OF ) HE WILL BUY. . SHE WILL BUY. . THEY WILL BUY. . THEN BACK TO PLAYERS NOT BEING HAPPY . . . THIS PLAYER WILL GO? THAT PLAYER WILL GO? ARE PLAYERS WILL GO?. . . . .BUT WITH HOPE IN ARE HARTS AN LITTLE ROY THE GAFFA O BY THE WAY GREAT NEWS THAT 4 US SO GOOD NEWS REAL GOOD. ANYWAY BACK TO BUCKING OWNERS SPOILING ARE? ((( FOOTBALL))) THE ONE THING THAT MATTERS TO US ((( FOOTBALL))) YEAR AFTER YEAR (THEY) ARE SO CALLED OWNERS DOING ALL THEY CAN TO HOLD ON WITH THERE GROTTY LITTLE HANDS TRYING GET SOME MEAT OF THE BONE THAT IS LEFT. WELL I HOPE THAT THEY GET SOD ALL JUST SOD ALL JUST THERE(BFH). BUS FARE HOME. THAT IS THE MOST THEY SHOULD EVER HOPE TO GET OUT OF ARE SUPER LIVERPOOL FC. . . O PLUS SHED LOADS OF MONEY THERE OWN DOSH GOING DOWN THE DRAIN(YANKS) SEE HOW YER LIKE IT WHEN ITS YOUR OWN REAL MONEY THE ONE THING THAT MEANS THE MOST TO U GETTING RIP TO BITS AN RIPPED APART BUT NOT LIVERPOOL FC?. ED THIS IS GOING TO GET MESSEY GOD I HOPE IM SO WRONG BUT I SEE THE NO GOOD LIEING COWBOYS TRYING TO HURT THE CLUB WE SO LOVE . . . . . . . . . WALK ON WALK ON. . . . . PS ONE THING IS FOR SURE( LIVERPOOL 4 LIFE) (FOREVER POOL) WITH HOPE LFC. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SOON TO BE SAFE AN SOUND AGIAN JAY ESSEX RED 4 LIFE FOREVER RED TILL I DIE

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 18:51:10

07 Sep 2010 18:31:57

07 Sep 2010 13:58:54

07 Sep 2010 07:57:35

David moores is involved with a middle eastern consortium to buy back the club. . .

I don't think David Moores would be welcome at Anfield and rightly so he's the main cause of the sh*t we are in now.

So can anyone honestly see Moores ever coming back? I still don't think he's lifted his head above 5 feet yet as it is weighed down with shame.

Blair Mayne YNWA


IT SEEMS CLEAR TO ME THAT BOTH MOORES AND PARRY LACKED THE BUSINESS AND FINACIAL KNOWLEDGE TO 'FLUSH OUT' THE BIG BOYS' WITH MASSIVE PERSONAL WEALTH, FORCING THEM TO ACCEPT THE H&G OFFER AND ALL IT INVOLVED.



Nothing worse than watching news reports in 2006/ 07 of Rick Parry in his cheap suit, flying around the world trying to meet the great, the rich and the good.

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 18:47:46

07 Sep 2010 18:09:19

Sad to hear Phil Thompson is going to Aston Villa with Gerard Houllier. He is really good on Sky Sports Soccer Saturday, always defending Liverpool. Unfortunately if he leaves the programme we will be forced to listen to a massive anti Liverpool bias from the other pundits (Merson, Le Tissier etc) and the presenter Jeff Stelling. Believable or unbelievable?

LETS FACE IT THIS MAN WAS NOT ONLY AN EXCELLENT LIVERPOOL COACH, BUT A GREAT PLAYER WHO LIFTED THE EUROPEAN CUP IN 1981 AS CAPTAIN. AN HISTORIC FIGURE IN OUR GREAT HISTORY.

 

 

07 Sep 2010 18:44:58

I realise that there has been nothing released from 'official' sources concerning the 'names' concerned in the prospective takeover but should we believe the names that are constantly mentioned on the rumours pages of the past month or so as genuine (Ellison, Sheikh maktoum, Sharjah etc).
Was the earlier mention on Banter, of owners from oil rich Kazakhstan a 'slip' of inside knowledge of the situation or just a joke?

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 18:35:56

07 Sep 2010 14:04:12

07 Sep 2010 07:18:12
Either Liverpool fans have stopped using the site or the editor has become bored with putting our posts up - don't blame him.

A result of not one true rumour in two months on one hand and Sky 'educated' fans on the other? Mmm

{Editor's Note: The site is quieter as the transfer window is shut.}

Don't forget about the International break too the Rumours/ Banter will pick up again tomorrow.

Blair Mayne YNWA

{Editor's Note: A good point. And as a sale nears discussions will no doubt move to the change of owners, the amount paid, how we will get on with Kazakhstani owners etc. Then of course there will be the January transfer window.}

I THINK THIS WAS A FANTASTIC SITE UPTO AUGUST 31 AND CONTINUES TO BE A FANTASTIC SITE. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 18:31:57

07 Sep 2010 13:58:54

07 Sep 2010 07:57:35

David moores is involved with a middle eastern consortium to buy back the club. . .

I don't think David Moores would be welcome at Anfield and rightly so he's the main cause of the sh*t we are in now.

So can anyone honestly see Moores ever coming back? I still don't think he's lifted his head above 5 feet yet as it is weighed down with shame.

Blair Mayne YNWA


IT SEEMS CLEAR TO ME THAT BOTH MOORES AND PARRY LACKED THE BUSINESS AND FINACIAL KNOWLEDGE TO 'FLUSH OUT' THE BIG BOYS' WITH MASSIVE PERSONAL WEALTH, FORCING THEM TO ACCEPT THE H&G OFFER AND ALL IT INVOLVED.

 

 

07 Sep 2010 18:31:05

With an agreement in place Steve between RBS and G&H after the extension of the loans and it was G&H who reneged on the agreement and defaulted on the loans would it and could it still go to the courts?

Blair Mayne YNWA

there are potential buyers waiting, there are no bids at present but come oct 6, when interested parties come out of the woodwork, and put a bid in for the club. .do people really believe that rbs would re-finance hicks and gillet? no they wont. .
what will happen is, bids will come in around that date, and h&g have the choice. .lose everything or gain a small fortune by selling. .

db9

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 18:09:19

Sad to hear Phil Thompson is going to Aston Villa with Gerard Houllier. He is really good on Sky Sports Soccer Saturday, always defending Liverpool. Unfortunately if he leaves the programme we will be forced to listen to a massive anti Liverpool bias from the other pundits (Merson, Le Tissier etc) and the presenter Jeff Stelling. Believable or unbelievable?

()()

 

 

07 Sep 2010 18:03:25

07 Sep 2010 11:43:06

This is my second posting on here.

As Liverpool descend into a mediocre mid table side, and eventually lose more star players - particularly Torres - it is hard to believe we will be able to compete strongly in future transfer activity, which will translate into even more also ran players coming into Anfield. It is true that the team has become weaker over the last 3 seasons with Alonso & Mascherano both leaving, and whilst I don't believe in keeping players who don't want to play for us, the replacements brought in are nowhere near the same level.

It is a really down beat feeling, because, truthfully, how many of us feel confident of 3 points in any league game these days. No matter who Liverpool play, there is always that fear of getting beat.

As an example how do we all feel we will get on in our next 2 league games ?

My 'gut feeling' is we will go down 2-0 at Birmingham, and 4-0 at Old Trafford.

I hope my instincts are wrong, but I fear not.

Any comments ?

KBL

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KBL, i think you have been reading to many sad novels. .

personally i don't think that it is not all bad, (well as bad as it could be with the limited funds), reasons being.

1 - Joe Cole, one of the reasons we struggled last year was that there was no creativity in midfield. As Stevie goes back there, Joe Cole can start to feed Torres (he already has found Babel a couple of times). I know one of the Ed's, don't fancy him but its not as if we shelved out on a transfer fee - and his attitude has to be better than that of Benayoun.

2 - Pacheco, with no Ngog or Dirk for a bit; Dani may now get his chance - many people have said he is average in the reserves currently but surely his under 19's form can't be a fluke - look at Babels first year in the premiership after his under 19 campaign. Pacheco is quick and many premiership defenders have not seen him.

3 - Meireles, although untested in England, surely playing in winning sides with Porto and actually fit. (Aquilani :p), he will fit in quick and take some relief off stevie g and add another option.

head up KBL we are Liverpool!

red snake


I ALSO DON'T THINK THE SITUATION ON THE PITCH IS AS BAD AS KBL THINKS. I THINK OUR SQUAD WHEN ALL ARE FIT AND NOT SUSPENDED IS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE P.LEAGUE REMEMBER MAN CITY PROBABLY COULD BE CHALLENGING FOR THE PREMIER LEAGUE TITLE NEXT APRIL/ MAY SO 3-0 COULD BE UNDERSTANDABLE WITH THEIR TRANSFER SPENDING.
WE SHOULD GET BEHIND THE TEAM WITH THIS DIFFICULT SITUATION OFF THE PITCH, BUT I BELIEVE ONCE THE OWNERSHIP SITUATION IS SORTED OUT THE TEAM WILL SUDDENLY FIND SOME CONFIDENCE AFTER ALL THE CURRENT UNCERTAINTY AND SUDDENLY PUT SOME RESULTS TOGETHER TO FORCE LIVERPOOL UP THE TABLE. I HONESTLY BELIEVE WE CAN DO WELL IN THE CUPS AND GET IN THE TOP FOUR AS ITS A LONG SEASON AND SPURS MAY GET HEAVILY INVOLVED IN CHAMPIONS LEAGUE TAKING THEIR EYES OFF THE P.LEAGUE.

 

 

07 Sep 2010 18:02:29

After reading the recent comments by a mr van der varrt, im a little dissapointed we didn't get him as i think that he wud have been the final piece to woys puzzle, playing poulsen holding, merieles playmaking with vdv gerrard and cole behind torres, causing mayhem to defences at all levels. how ever as gud as van der vaart is, the more ive read about about him im starting to think he may be a little over rated, stripped of the captaincy at ajax due to poor form, moved to hamberg( not really a dream club to play for) then a move to real madrid, cudnt get in the team for the last few years, then dropped at this years world cup for an (injured) robben, then chose a move to tottenham, yes they made the champions league this year, but nxt year. . . . i doubt it, lets face it there biggest game in history of spurs was against young boys! strange decision if you ask me! also its a shame kuyt is injured but at least babel should get a few games now.

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 17:39:39

Next fixtures:(and the results)
Birmingham (A) - Win
Man Utd (A) - Lose
Sunderland (H) - Win
Blackpool (H) - Win
Everton - Win
= 12 points from 5 games. + 4 from 3 games.

My Team Vs Birmingham:
Reina
Carragher Kyrgiakos Agger Konchesky
Johnson Meireles Poulsen Maxi
Gerrard
Torres
Bench: Jones, Kelly, Aurelio, Babel, Jovanovic, Lucas, Pacheco.

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 16:42:15

Blair, Steve you are missing the point. Facts are as follows:-

H & G set up a new company ("Newco") to acquire the club from the infamous Moores.
Newco funded the purchase of the club with a loan from RBS.
As security for the loan as well as guarantees from G & H (which are now worthless given their poor financial health) the club was charged to the RBS as security.
H & G have been using the club's profits to service the interest payments due by Newco to RBS.
Newco's loan facility expired in early 2010. In the new banking climate no lender was willing to lend sums to H & G to enable them to repay RBS.
RBS agreed to renew the facility subject to H & G injecting sufficient funds to reduce the loan by £100m within a set time period.
H & G failed to raise these funds and so defaulted on their refinancing obligations to RBS.
At this point RBS could call in the loan. It however agreed not to call in the loan prior to October 2010 so as to give time for a buyer to be found. The price paid by H & G for this RBS extension / indulgence was that H & G would lose control of the board. This way the bank could ensure that any realistic offers would be accepted.
The board seems to be having difficulties in finding a buyer. This is perhaps not surprising as buyers will in all likelihood await until H & G are in default of the October deadline.
In October RBS will be able to enforce its security against Newco by repossessing the club. They are extremely unlikely to extend the deadline further.
Once RBS enforces its ecuirty and acquires ownership of the club it will then look to sell the club to recoup the debt owed to it by Newco. If the club is sold for more than Newco's debts RBS will need to give the surplus to H & G. On the other hand if the club is sold for less than Newco's debts RBS will still be able to pursue H & G for the shortfall (though it won't be worth the bank's efforts if they have no assets)
At law a bank which enforces its security has a duty to ensure that when it sells the security it does so for market price. A failure to do so opens the bank up to being sued by H & G for selling the club at an undervalue and thereby depriving them of any surplus once the debt has been repaid. The fact that the club has been up for 6 months will assist RBS in defending itself against such a claim. They can show that there have been no buyers at a price which will repay the debt.
Conclusion. Hicks and Gillette have already lost control of the club. The only way they can salvage the situation is to raise from another party sufficient funds to repay RBS. The report that they were seeking to mortgage the stadium and Melwood is therefore credible. These guys are desperate to prevent RBS from enforcing its security. Time is fast running out. In the current economic climate its highly unlikely H & G will be able to pull this off. I fully expect RBS to enforce its security in October. The good news is that this will not lead to a points deduction. Further good news is that this will mean that a buyer should be able to purchase the club at a realistic valuation. The buyer will not therefore enrich H & G and instead will be able to use money which would have been going to H & G as profit to invest in the club. October will be a defining month for the clubs future Reality Red

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 16:19:10

Have just seen this article , any thoughts?

Liverpool's board of directors will block any plans by owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks to use club assets to refinance their loans.Chairman Martin Broughton, managing director Christian Purslow and commercial director Ian Ayre are understood to be planning to legally oppose the Americans' bid to maintain their grip on the club by using players and guaranteed TV revenues to pay off existing debts.Anfield and the club's Melwood training ground have also been mooted in the duo's remortgaging bid ahead of the October 6 deadline set by the Royal Bank of Scotland to repay their existing loan of £237million in addition to £60million penalty fees incurred since April.The board rejected a proposal by Gillett and Hicks to use players and the stadium as collateral in their bid to secure a £290million investment several months ago, with a vote of 3-2.Discussion with the Premier League have ensured that Liverpool will not face a nine-point deduction should the bank seize control, with both the League and UEFA receiving assurances from the club that they can fulfil all their fixtures for the current season.However, should RBS take over the club next month they can fully expect to face a court date with Gillett and Hicks, who will legally challenge any plans by the high street giant to sell the club for any amount lower than their own valuation of between £600million and £800million.

Hope this over soon !

LONDONRED.

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 15:20:09

Hi ed,
give us a glimpse of hope
regarding the ownership,
i beleive you have some info.
thanks malta

{Editor's Note: I think the glimpse of hope is that matters are in hand with a sale, seemingly, getting nearer.}

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 15:17:28

Blair Mayne, - mate there is s massive difference between a bank selling a home that was defaulted and a massive business like Liverpool. If H&G have the funds they will definitely be taking RBS to court and we could be looking at a long protracted legal s* tfight where lawyers will happily drain funds for as long as they can. Historically if you look at the take over of business it happens during strong bull markets where price matches exuberance or bear markets were well funded buyers can bide their time and pick off distressed companies.
The latter is the situation we are in at present.
Hopefully that is what we will see happen now with H&G realising it is better to minimise their losses and get out.

Steve

 

 

07 Sep 2010 15:11:34

The guy on here going on about us not being savvy because we didn'y get Romeu in the Masc deal - this is the real world mate, not a game of monopoly. We were lucky to get 20 mill as it was - with mash having us by the balls - so what makes you think we'd be able to swan in to the Nou camp and start demanding one of their most valuable young players. (Oh yeah, and we're skint, we needed the money to buy.)

With fans like you, i think Roy needs to find religion fast.

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 14:04:12

07 Sep 2010 07:18:12
Either Liverpool fans have stopped using the site or the editor has become bored with putting our posts up - don't blame him.

A result of not one true rumour in two months on one hand and Sky 'educated' fans on the other? Mmm

{Editor's Note: The site is quieter as the transfer window is shut.}

Don't forget about the International break too the Rumours/ Banter will pick up again tomorrow.

Blair Mayne YNWA

{Editor's Note: A good point. And as a sale nears discussions will no doubt move to the change of owners, the amount paid, how we will get on with Kazakhstani owners etc. Then of course there will be the January transfer window.}

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 13:58:54

07 Sep 2010 07:57:35

David moores is involved with a middle eastern consortium to buy back the club. . .

I don't think David Moores would be welcome at Anfield and rightly so he's the main cause of the sh*t we are in now.

So can anyone honestly see Moores ever coming back? I still don't think he's lifted his head above 5 feet yet as it is weighed down with shame.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

07 Sep 2010 13:44:24

- - - - - - - Reina - - - - - - - -

Johnson-Carradonna-Agger-Konchesky

- - - - Meireles- - -Gerrard- - - - -

Amoo- - - - Shelvey - - - - - -Cole

- - - - - - - Torres- - - - - - - - -

Give youth a chance! If Amoo & Shelvey were to blossom this season as they potentially could, this could be a hell of a team!

Would anyone else like to see Hodgson go this way?

Gart

 

 

07 Sep 2010 13:37:24

Y don't or why can't standard charter just buy the club?

Any ideas?

{Editor's Note: Standard Charter are a bank not an investor in sports clubs. Most financial institutions investing in a football club will likely be looking for a quick, high return. If that happens the fans could well be crying out for the return of Hicks and Gillett very quickly. You could equally well ask why Shell don't buy Liverpool.}

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 12:54:57

I've read more than once recently about giving Sterling a chance in the first team. Do you think it's likely that, although he is highly rated, that Liverpool will play a 15 year old Year 11 schoolboy in the first team.

{Editor's Note: Not at his age, no. Perhaps next season a game in the league cup (or whatever it is called then).}

 

 

07 Sep 2010 12:49:05

In response to KBL and people's responses.

Whilst I don't believe we are a mid table side I do believe that the team has got weaker over the last 4 transfer windows.

We've sold (apologies for any spelling mistakes):
Keane
Arebola
Alonso
Leto
Hyppia (free)
Pennant (free)
Vorinin
Dossena
Mascharano
Reira
Benny
Cavaleiri

+ Degan, Insua, Aqualini on loan (unlikely to return)
+ a number of younger players to championship teams and San Jose to Ath Bilibo

In terms of players in that would improve the squad from our 2nd place in 2008-2009 season (I appreciate the home grown player rule has forced our hand somewhat) then only Johnson, J Cole and Meireles would be IMO classed as improvements to the squad.

When you consider our net transfer spend (again I appreciate this doesn't include agent and player sign on fee's) then over the last four windows we've raised more than we spent.

I think Roy will not make as many changes to the Premier team and I do believe his hands have been tied somewhat but I do not believe we are as strong as we were two years ago.

This doesn't mean I won't be supporting the lads and hopefully Roy can work his magic but the new boys are going to have to hit the ground running.

Here's hoping!

Hoola

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 12:13:03
Just questions. . Can Amoo be the the next Adam Jonson? How come everyone at Arsenal are good on the ball? How come J. Cole is good on the ball and D. Kyut in't. Is it our scouting department at fault?
On the bright side, our squad is better than last year. Just need a quality right winger and a quality striker. What do you think, fellow Reds' fans? What do you think, ED?
Red Herr Ing

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 12:11:50

- - - - - - - - - Reina- - - - - - - - -
- - johnson- -carra- -agger- - -konch- -
- - - - - Meireles- - - Poulson- - - - -
- -J.Cole- - - - - - - - - - -Jovanovic-
- - - - - - - - - - Gerrard- - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - Torres- - - - - - - - - -

Am i the only one that thinks cole should be kept on the wing? and play gerrard with torres as cole will never (mark my words) NEVER play as good as gerrard just behind torres, he can't link up with torres like gerrard can and he deffo can't shoot like him plus he hasn't got the strength.

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 11:49:22
In response to this posting,

07 Sep 2010 11:08:16
This is my second posting on here.

As Liverpool descend into a mediocre mid table side, and eventually lose more star players - particularly Torres - it is hard to believe we will be able to compete strongly in future transfer activity, which will translate into even more also ran players coming into Anfield. It is true that the team has become weaker over the last 3 seasons with Alonso & Mascherano both leaving, and whilst I don't believe in keeping players who don't want to play for us, the replacements brought in are nowhere near the same level.

It is a really down beat feeling, because, truthfully, how many of us feel confident of 3 points in any league game these days. No matter who Liverpool play, there is always that fear of getting beat.

As an example how do we all feel we will get on in our next 2 league games ?

My 'gut feeling' is we will go down 2-0 at Birmingham, and 4-0 at Old Trafford.

I hope my instincts are wrong, but I fear not.

Any comments ?

KBL

Mate, Liverpool are far more than an mediocre mid table side. In fact, the team we have now is much better than any of Rafa's teams. Roy has got rid of all the dead wood and recruited some experienced pros who want to play and fight for our club and promoted some our younger and talented players. With players in their preferred roles, right formations and getting back that never say die attitude then you will see a much improved Liverpool FC.

Our boys just need time to gel and be ready to fight tooth and nail for each other, plus have the FULL support of their supporters, Win, Draw or Lose! !

Not many teams that look as good as this on paper!

4-3-3

- - - - - -Babel- - - -Torres- - - -Kuyt

- - - - - -Cole - - - -Meireles- - - Gerrard

- - -Konchesky- - Agger- - - Carra- - - Johnson

- - - - - - - - - - - - Reina- - - - - - - - -

COME ON THE REDS!

 

 

07 Sep 2010 11:43:06

This is my second posting on here.

As Liverpool descend into a mediocre mid table side, and eventually lose more star players - particularly Torres - it is hard to believe we will be able to compete strongly in future transfer activity, which will translate into even more also ran players coming into Anfield. It is true that the team has become weaker over the last 3 seasons with Alonso & Mascherano both leaving, and whilst I don't believe in keeping players who don't want to play for us, the replacements brought in are nowhere near the same level.

It is a really down beat feeling, because, truthfully, how many of us feel confident of 3 points in any league game these days. No matter who Liverpool play, there is always that fear of getting beat.

As an example how do we all feel we will get on in our next 2 league games ?

My 'gut feeling' is we will go down 2-0 at Birmingham, and 4-0 at Old Trafford.

I hope my instincts are wrong, but I fear not.

Any comments ?

KBL

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KBL, i think you have been reading to many sad novels. .

personally i don't think that it is not all bad, (well as bad as it could be with the limited funds), reasons being.

1 - Joe Cole, one of the reasons we struggled last year was that there was no creativity in midfield. As Stevie goes back there, Joe Cole can start to feed Torres (he already has found Babel a couple of times). I know one of the Ed's, don't fancy him but its not as if we shelved out on a transfer fee - and his attitude has to be better than that of Benayoun.

2 - Pacheco, with no Ngog or Dirk for a bit; Dani may now get his chance - many people have said he is average in the reserves currently but surely his under 19's form can't be a fluke - look at Babels first year in the premiership after his under 19 campaign. Pacheco is quick and many premiership defenders have not seen him.

3 - Meireles, although untested in England, surely playing in winning sides with Porto and actually fit. (Aquilani :p), he will fit in quick and take some relief off stevie g and add another option.

head up KBL we are Liverpool!

red snake

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 11:38:25
As an example how do we all feel we will get on in our next 2 league games ?

My 'gut feeling' is we will go down 2-0 at Birmingham, and 4-0 at Old Trafford.

I hope my instincts are wrong, but I fear not.

Any comments ?

KBL
*Dunno a blind werd 'e sez* :)

Uuuum, does ultra pessimistic ring any bells?? Geez. . . We'll win at Birmingham easy, 3-1. .the Sc* game, well, if all our boys step up, we'll give them a hell of a game - remember J.Cole is back and will be desperate to impress! I'll stump for a draw tho. And as for losing our top stars. .ha ha ha - haven't we just, a month ago, heard directly from the horses mouth that Gerrard, Reina and Torres want to stay? What world are you living in m8? You said it was your second post - i suggest you leave it as your FINAL post(unless you want to talk the Liverpool way and be positive? ?). .! ! Speaks YNWA

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 11:27:04

Here is the dic email Email:info@dubaiic.com

what you say we all email them asking to buy are club and ask every fan you know. .

tell them we won't stop the emails till they do ha ha ha . .

what you think ed {ed's note - I am not sure threats would be of great use in this instance.}

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 11:08:16
This is my second posting on here.

As Liverpool descend into a mediocre mid table side, and eventually lose more star players - particularly Torres - it is hard to believe we will be able to compete strongly in future transfer activity, which will translate into even more also ran players coming into Anfield. It is true that the team has become weaker over the last 3 seasons with Alonso & Mascherano both leaving, and whilst I don't believe in keeping players who don't want to play for us, the replacements brought in are nowhere near the same level.

It is a really down beat feeling, because, truthfully, how many of us feel confident of 3 points in any league game these days. No matter who Liverpool play, there is always that fear of getting beat.

As an example how do we all feel we will get on in our next 2 league games ?

My 'gut feeling' is we will go down 2-0 at Birmingham, and 4-0 at Old Trafford.

I hope my instincts are wrong, but I fear not.

Any comments ?

KBL

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 10:29:33

Hi ed,
so what will happen if the owners will re-finance the loan?
cause according to an e mail i saw on RAWK it seems they want to stay.

{Editor's Note: If the owners choose and manage to refinance the debt they can of course stay as owners. Regardless of what you have seen on RAWK, it seems unlikely that Hicks and Gillett would wish to do this unless they cannot get any sort of return on their money. We know that the club is up for sale and that efforts are being made to complete the "right sale" for the club. If this is next week or next year it really does not matter that much - the important thing is that the right owners are found and that they are responsible owners who have the best interests of the club at heart.

I would suggest that what you have seen on RAWK is likely to have been a fake e-mail being used by certain manipulative parties to work the gullible in to frenzy.

At the moment, my advice would be to get behind the team and the players that we have.}

 

 

 

 

07 Sep 2010 07:57:35

David moores is involved with a middle eastern consortium to buy back the club. . .

 

 

07 Sep 2010 07:18:12
Either Liverpool fans have stopped using the site or the editor has become bored with putting our posts up - don't blame him.

A result of not one true rumour in two months on one hand and Sky 'educated' fans on the other? Mmm

{Editor's Note: The site is quieter as the transfer window is shut.}

 

 

07 Sep 2010 06:27:58

Play the young boys we havd nothing to loose

 

 

07 Sep 2010 04:43:27
Fellow Reds,
I've been an avid red for 20 years plus now and unfortunately I've been unable to get to as many matches as in previous years(Due to moving from Accrington > Cardff) I just thought I'd ask a few questions and throw a few thoughts out there. .
First of all, our beloved Anfield. I used to love(and brag) that our atmosphere was second to none. But over the last year or so Anfield is soooo chillingly quiet? Do you all agree? It's like the crowd are full of Mancs in disguise! ;) If there are any Kop season ticket holders reading - SORT IT OUT PLEASE! Secondly, I've been impressed with bits and parts of the opening few games so far(Before I moan about the wings. . Jova has been impressive, strong, quick, will defo score soon) . . but we are seriously lacking in width and have been for far far far far too long. This is due to the fact our tempo is so predictable it's frightening. We have Johnson who can bomb on(hopefully Konchesky can do the same), but we SERIOUSLY NEED wingers who can open up space for J.Cole, El Nino and Stevie. . We then have a scracking player in Meireles who can easily protect the defense. Therefore, I'm hoping Lucas' days are coming to an end(in the starting eleven) God knows he's tried AND improved. But he's a squad player AT MOST. .I'm not saying he WON'T be good enough at all. the boy has ability, but it might be another few years before we see his true potential. Sorry to go on, but I hope a few other fans agree, if so, what would be your starting team - here's mine :

Pepe

Glen Carra Agger Konchesky

Cole Gerrard Meireles Jova

Babel or Pacheco(Aguero in Jan :) Torres

When Kuyt is back, play Cole behind Torres!

Players to watch imho - obviously Pacheco(Cesc Fabregas potential maybe?) Sterling(wow! ), Jonjo and Kelly.

Speaks YNWA(all of the above I'm positively sure that Woy will address and new owners come January will make their stamp before we can't spend big next year. .well here's hoping! )

 

 

07 Sep 2010 02:31:22

I doubt bout any takeover right now. . all i can say is Roy having though time now without Kuyt and Ngog. Lets hope we can come out with 6 points frm next 2 matches vs Birmingam and S**m.

 

 

07 Sep 2010 01:24:22

How confident are you ed the take over will happen soon? ie before jan.

{Editor's Note: Everyone is working hard toward it and I think there is a very good chance it will be completed before January.}