Liverpool Banter Archive October 07 2012

 

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07 Oct 2012 23:11:01
Reading the site tonight there are an awful lot of posters more gloomy than me who don't leave a name

Sour Puss


 

 

07 Oct 2012 23:09:40
i dont know what happened during the week but it was a great mark of respect from our fans at anfield today, the 90 minutes of silence was great, no wonder the team struggles at home when all the fans do is moan and groan,how about getting behind the team through thick and thin and see what happens, no atmosphere at all, what happened to the 12th man, intimidate the opposition and let the players and management know that you are behind them no matter what maybe then we will get the results we all want.

pd


Agreed mate, now I only go to about 5 or six games a season, but last year the crowd was so silent and so far this year except the 2 Manchester clubs. I only get tickets for the main stand and often find myself embarrassingly singing by myself, even you'll never walk alone. Just hope if we start after one or two wins.
Jason
Jason


What about the atmostphere against Udinese on the weekend, Anfield was booming, in the second half
Andrew


 

 

07 Oct 2012 22:32:04
HI ed001 haven't spoken to you in a long time, what do you think of our performance today and do you like rogers, do you see us making top four? how is your girl by the way? thanks
hibsylfc {Ed001's Note - the performance was good, Stoke tried to rough house and bully us, but we still dominated the game. Though I will never know how Whitehead is a footballer, the lad is just a thug in a kit. They pull, push, kick, etc in full view of the ref, yet nothing is ever given. I have to say, I truly hate watching any match involving them, because I just hate to see those kind of tactics winning matches. Stoke are the true epitome of anti-football, yes they can play a little when they get the ball, but their tactics when they don't are just nasty. They are brutal, I really don't understand how they are not picking up fines every week for too many bookings. At the end of the day, we do have a few issues, when Gerrard is poor, like he was today, he is still dominating our play, we need to stop playing through him on off days and look for others. Sterling is looking jaded, Cole should never set foot near the pitch again, but the main reason we didn't score was Suarez returned to the player I hated watching early last season. Not only did he hold onto the ball too long, he shot from ridiculous angles when there were better options and, worst of all, he dived and threw himself constantly. That spoilt the game for me, his return to sitting around moaning on the floor, when he should have got up and got on with it. For all that, I think we will get better and I like how our future is looking under Rodgers. My not so little girl is good thanks, growing too fast though, thankfully my mate has a pig farm.....}


Spot on ed the tackle by whitehead at the studs up diving in was a disgrace I would be appaled if a Liverpool player had done it,the most dismaying aspect was this happened in front of the ref & linesman who took no action,pulis is a repugnant manager in charge of a repugnant team the epitome of anti-football....
Paisley's genius


Nice to hear from you again, my thoughts were quite the same on today's game although I think Suarez probably thinks when I am staying up I am not getting decisions so I am going to lie again and maybe now I will. I am not backing him in doing so but the refereeing inconsistencies causes this.
I like BR myself, although I still think we should go out to get a striker.
Hindu FCC {Ed001's Note - I think Suarez needs to get on with it when he doesn't get the decision, just accept it and move on. Perhaps if he hadn't been so willing to dive so blatantly, he might get more decisions now.}


 

 

07 Oct 2012 22:40:26
Time! Time, my LFC brothers and sisters, is on our side. Think about it... it's not like we'll be losing any big names due to old age any time soon... except for the living legend Stevie G. Rodgers and our kids need time to grow together. Let's give it to em.

AmRed


You say we wont be losing any big names soon due to age,but what about losing big names due to the lack of CLF yet again!


 

 

07 Oct 2012 22:38:53
I just think that was a disgraceful dive. Seriously, he was on the ground and then got up and dived. Pathetic!

G.A.G.U.S {Ed001's Note - you are in a glass house mate, give it up. It was a disgraceful dive, but your team is full of them, so you are in no position to comment.}


Maybe he as been watching Ashley Young.

Mighty reds


Yes Ed, but this was on another level.

G.A.G.U.S


07 Oct 2012 23:24:46
Great response Ed01!

Jolly Red


Tell me, what's more disgraceful: diving to get a penalty or diving and acting like you have a broken leg to get an opposing player sent off and banned for 3 games? Enough said.

AmRed


Pot kettle and all that, young, welbeck, rooney and kagawa spring to mind, also thought van persie's elbow to cabaye's head was disgraceful but u come to expect that from that coward


Lets not forget Valencia. Man U could enter a diving team in the Olympics

cozinoz


 

 

07 Oct 2012 22:04:19
Well, we didn't comcede and we didn't lose - so things are on the up. The only thing I disagreed with was taking Suso off for the largely ineffectual and pointless Cole. Other than that our only problem is not scoring - we're ticking all the boxes but that ine. But it will happen and once it does we will steamroller everyone. RED LENIN


 

 

07 Oct 2012 21:59:35
Eds is there anyway that the FA could ban players for Diving, as although im a Liverpool fan i do think that Suarez goes down too easily as like a lot of the other players now a days, people forget that football is idolized and that young kids idolize the Pro's and they're gonna think its OK to dive if there seeing there idols doing it week in week out..

BigD


Or stamping
Paisley's genius


 

 

07 Oct 2012 21:39:38
Was impressed with wisdom today... Well played Norman lad! Suso sterling joe Allen stood up to stoke's anti footballers today tough lesson to learn today but probably a necessary one......
Paisley's genius


 

 

07 Oct 2012 21:32:04
been saying this for 18 months downing henderson shelvey carrager no longer liverpool players just not good enough where are we going at moment negative tactics dont look like scoring worset pool team for 100 years lucky if we finish in top half of table


Shelvey is the best up and coming English footballer next to sterling and oxlade.


Shelvey is a class act in the making but the rest should go, with carra going upstairs.


You lost me when you added Shelvey, mate. Certainly not negative tactics and the Hodgson team was the worst I can remember, so over all, tosh.

Andy K


People said all this when we got beat by Southampton in rafa's first season......as for being the worst team in 100 years did you ever see the souness side?
Paisley's genius


Shelvey ? what planet are you on ?


Shelvey not Liverpool quality?? Are actually joking? The kid is already quality and will only get better... like a young Gerrard!... future captain imo!

Danski


...er Shelvey?, you haven't watched any Lfc matches recently, have you, really?


Henderson and Shelvey are two of the best young english midfielders....


 

 

07 Oct 2012 21:51:55
ed do you think steve clarke should have been given managers job he got wba flying while we to be honest are the poorest pool side for many a season we will struggle to get 45 pts this season and goals scored will be lowest ever 1 ripped up season ticket {Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to that. The owners gave the fans Dalglish as a permanent manager - a massive mistake as I said at the time. He screwed up big time.}


The only screw up was by FSG not letting Kenny finish what he started


Hi ed002 just read your reply I am curious of why you thought dalglish should not have been given the job and what do you think of BR? thanks Just curious into your unsight.
hibsylfc {Ed002's Note - Dalglish was a neat option and did a great job in the months after Roy Hodgson left. He was absolutely the wrong choice to give the job to on a full time basis. He had been out of teh game a lifetime and was too wrapped up in the club to look at the role objectively. The whole thing was a screw up. Rodgers is a nice enough guy but Reading was a bust. He wants to do what he wants to do and I hope he does well. It is a significant step up from what he has done before. Eventually folks will realise that clubs do not have a "year of transition" - and certainly don't have one every year. If the results come, as I expect they will, everything should settle with the fans.}


The opinion of the Chelsea-supporting editor with respect to Kenny Dalglish is highly disrespectful and should surely be removed given its subjective and inflammatory nature. It is arguable that to claim that Kenny Dalglish 'messed up' after reaching two Cup Finals in a single season is unfair.

Red Owl {Ed002's Note - So the fans think that Dalglish spent £115M or whatever it was wisely? You don't think they have called for the head of pretty much every player that he bought - why not search on Downing, Adam, Henderson, Carroll, Donkey, Enrique and perhaps it will be a little clearer to you. You want disrespctful, why not look at the hundreds of posts that followed every loss or draw and then think about the ones that were cut. The owners screwed up giving Dalglish the job full time whether you like it or not. He wasn't up to it and that was something the "fans" were more than happy to share with each other on a regular basis. Suck it up.}


This season is a learning curve for the team and the new manager k.k bought badly itll take time for the new manager to get the team right and how he wants them to play 1or 2 players to complete the jigsaw


08 Oct 2012 01:06:48
Ed2 mate that`s unfair giving Dalglish stick and saying Rogers is good let's be honest rodgers has already started breaking records of souness what can I say more. {Ed002's Note - And where did I say Rodgers was "good"? I said he was a "nice enough guy". I said "I hope he does well" - I don't think I would have said he was "good". Perhaps you misread the who thing?}


Well Ed I presume you enjoy the job or you wouldn't be doing it but I thoroughly disagree with your stance on Kenny. He had earned the right to try and take the team forward. The fact that the players he bought, with a couple of exceptions, failed to live up to their billing and statistics was not Kenny's fault. Lots if players just don't do it at new clubs, we just copped for a bunch simultaneously. BR is doing ok, but then so was Kenny. The defence was better and we were playing passing football too. BR didn't actually invent it. It's been the Liverpool way since Shanks. So Ed, great job but a bit more respect for Kenny eh? Your blue undies are peeking out mate {Ed002's Note - It is not a lack of respect for Dalglish - back in the day and after Hodgson he did a lot for the club and community. Giving him the job full time was a masterstroke of ineptitude by the owners. Given a need for a striker, a winger and a midfield player - could you have done better than Carroll, Downing and Henderson with £72M? Did you ever visit the site earlier this year after every draw and every loss? Did you watch the Liverpool fans spew their hate over the players, the manager and the owners? Last week the talk was of no immediate need for a striker and everything is going well. Tonight it is all FSG out etc. again.}


Sorry, forgot to sign that.

ND


Just think of what BR could have done with 115 million. I like every one of his buys, including borini, guys is only 21, I think Liverpool fans think he is 28 and a seasoned pro already. Borini will get 15 goals in the prem this season.
Andrew


Yes he could of got the whole swansea team and aload of chealsea rejects!


With 115M BR would have bought the swansea team


Someone asked for ed002's opinion on Dalglish and he gave it. Not ed's fault he was asked.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 21:26:09
Lets have some perspective here.
Our first home games were Man City, Arsenal and United.
Our away games were West Brom (who are fourth) and Sunderland who have only lost once this season (yesterday).
Stoke today was a battle and they were lucky to have 11 men on the pitch at the end, we hit the post/ bar three times and lets not forget, Stoke were unlucky to lose at Chelsea last week, the Chelsea who have just spent nearly £100 million on new players.
Its still early in the season and we have easier home and away games to come, starting with Reading.

Jay


Hi eds and jay lets put this into perspective here stoke was supposedly 1 of them easy games that we were meant to pick up 3 points,it didnt happen so lets not be to quick to write of these other easy games we have reading and so on cause we wouldn score in a brothel at the moment


Here's some perspective.
Same record after 7 games as Hodgson with a similar standard of opposition.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 21:25:21
We've lost to Everton and Spurs this season, and both times deservedly so. Also quite uninspiring against Fulham and Southampton. All these teams were given the proper credit due to them by myself, and any proper Utd fans.

I've run through this site quickly, and not one, not one of you, have given Stoke any credit whatsoever for going to Anfield and getting a draw - it's all, 'they're a rugby team', 'over-physical', 'we were soooooo unlucky' etc etc.

Should I remind you that you have no God-given right to beat teams like Stoke. Teams like that are playing every week for Premiership survival, and don't have the luxury of lots of money, large fan base etc - they have to get results anyway they can.

You're starting to sound like Wenger - as if these teams should just let you play pretty football and walk the ball into the net. How dare these small teams put up any sort of fight whatsoever! You have to earn the right to compete on the pitch in this league - remember that.

And to the eejit who said earlier that if he was a Stoke fan, he'd rather watch them playing good football in the Conference, than this type of football in the Premiership - behave yourself, you smug person. Ask any Stoke fan, and I can guess where they'd rather be watching their football.

Thought you lot had a bit more class than this when it came to giving other teams a bit of credit.

StevieK {Ed001's Note - you know Stoke actually do have lots of money don't you?}


07 Oct 2012 22:37:12
It doesn't bother you in the slightest that your team's tactics consist of cynical fouls and trying to get sneaky stamps on people then?

Let's look at this, purely from a football perspective, shall we?

Long ball footie is a legit tactic. Especially with Crouch in your team. Why not use him? He's can be unplayable on his day. And Mourinho did at times when he was at Chelsea with Drogba, quite successfully. Pressing the opposition is a legit tactic. Every team should be doing it. Hell, if you want to, playing 9 behind the ball and daring someone to break you down is legit. I have no problem with Stoke or anyone doing that. And I certainly don't feel that Liverpool, or Arsenal or even Barca or Spain have a God-given right to win matches because they play pretty football.

But fouling people isn't a legitimate tactic and you lucked out with the ref being soft. It took him 25 minutes to book someone. If he'd laid down a marker and shown a yellow for the first nasty tackle from your side, you'd had to have backed off and let us play a bit more, because you'd have known you would've gotten in trouble playing the way you did.

You're effectively depending on the ref being suitable for that sort of rough-housing. Isn't that even the tiniest bit of a worry for you?

- Something Red -


Ed001 - to be fair, they have money, but have to be a lot more careful with how they spend it, than the bigger teams.

Bigger teams buy a bad one or two, and it might cost them a couple of positions in the league, and selling them on again at a loss, before going out and spending some more money to make up for it.

Teams like Stoke and WBA don't have that luxury. They can't afford to waste the money that they have, and go out and spend more to make it right. And they know that a few bad results can see them go into freefall, and possibly out of the Premiership.

That's the difference.


StevieK {Ed001's Note - Stoke have a bigger profit margin than Liverpool do, they can afford to spend a lot more than Liverpool do. So you are wrong. WBA don't have the same income, but they are also profitable, but due to being run on a shoestring. On the other hand, Liverpool are losing money, they can't afford the bad buys that WBA or Stoke can. It doesn't matter how you put it, Liverpool simply aren't well enough off to absorb losses, we are relying on FSG covering those losses right now.}


You are such a nice man for giving all these teams the proper credit they deserve. then again of course you are a proper man u fan. could you define what makes a fan a proper fan opposed to just a fan. thank you in advance.

B O H


As well as having lots of money they have a strong fan base so your points are invalid.
Stick to your own page and talking about your own team.

Jay


Aaron Ramsey's leg saurez's chest no team has the god given right to stamp.the spirit of stanley Matthews is so alive in mr pulis....
Paisley's genius


BOH - proper, meaning I can appreciate football in it's entirety and give other teams credit for their efforts, rather than just moaning and whining about how unlucky we are, and how the opposition are just big bullies. Looking at a match without the red-tinted glasses on.

Jay - strong fan base? You mean the greater Stoke-on-Trent metropolis. I thought you were a global team - surely you sell a few more shirts than Stoke to help swell the coffers?

And I'll do you a deal mate - I'll stay off your site, if you promise me you'll keep your little kids off ours, every time you lot win a game and we lose.

StevieK

Just seen that 'dive' on MOTD - how did it not fool anyone?


StevieK, have you actually ever read what the eds have said about shirt sales. Every time I recall them mentioning it they say in our case warrior makes most of the money. We only really make money from the shirts sold at the Liverpool official stores. So global shirt sales do not directly swell your coffers.
Andrew


 

 

07 Oct 2012 21:21:42
was at todays game iam now getting pived off with gaffers team selections and style of play he is trying to make us play like swansea when we are liverpool too many negative passes we are going nowhere at moment excuses we deserved to win unlucky etc etc when we are getting what we deserve nothing i will start the chant early rodgers out


The team are playing well but ain't getting the results we rightfully deserve but i think its time we switchd to the Rafa way 4-2-3-1

Reina
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique
Lucas Allen
Downing Gerrard Sterling
Suarez


He is trying to play football the way its supposed to be played, its called pass and move our problem is a goalscorer and inexperience in the team. Soso and Sterling although good players need to get into goal scoring positions more often, theres too many times theyre hanging on the edge of the area instead of getting into the heart of the area which would cause panic amongst the defenders. Also Gerrard and Sahin too.

Red1


Here comes the my selections are better than yours BR.


After the game Rodgers said there is no right way to play football, so stop the excuses.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 21:07:11
I've seen some bad dives, but WOW! That was one of the worst I've seen. Disgraceful player.

G.A.G.U.S


Young
Nani
Ronaldo
WOW!
you must watch the game with your eyes closed..

Phooey


07 Oct 2012 21:55:24
Still not in the same league as Ashley Young!


07 Oct 2012 21:23:29
Should be more concerned with Danny "Swan" Welbeck, Ashley "Olympian" Young and Antonio "Bambi-legs" Valencia, shouldn't you?

Jolly Red


You lost again gagus? Or have your family just realised what an oxygen stealer you are, and disowned you? No matter how many times you come on here, I for one will never adopt you. Perhaps you should put yourself on eBay...

Bigbadben


07 Oct 2012 21:30:43
You need to look closer to home

Young
Welbeck
Rooney
Nani
Scholes
etc, so dont come on here criticising when you have youre own divers

Red1


You have obviously not watched much football, what are you 9 or 10.

I am sure if you go onto YouTube and look under Rooney Dive, Ronaldo Dive, Young Dive, Evra Dive, Nani Dive, etc., etc., you might see some really embarrassing dives.


The funniest thing I've seen in ages......
Flyhalf Mitch.


Nani wellbeck rooney dive for a reason cause they get penalties for ther dirty work cause they got whisky nose as manager n refs are frightened of him


07 Oct 2012 23:40:22
hypocrite.

ACHILLES.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 21:06:28
A week or two ago, everyone was saying that Gerrard was amazing, and that anyone who said he should be benched are persons. This will happen again. You people will take it all back, when Liverpool next win. Just stop saying things in the heat of the moment, and support the club.

Piledriver


Back then he was actually playing well. Now when I look at gerrard I don't see the fire anymore. I just see someone that's thinking about 'after the match'. In his interviews he's produced some sort of big headed attitude that suggests he knows he's in decline. Why is he now coming out with 'oh Chelsea man united Barcelona all wanted me'. All those clubs want neymar but he doesn't brag about it. Gerrard is a 'was'.


Been saying Gerrard past it for a while now mate.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 21:00:30
hi eds just a wee thought after 2days game am as big a fan liverpool is my life makes me so sick when there beat but really getting fed up controlling games and passing teams off the park with no end product hhe only records we are gonna break every season is hitting the woodwork surely we have to address this sooner rather than later with a proven striker and maybe a goal scoring midfielder it is so hard to watch at times any thoughts many thanks great site love it.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 20:56:10
Starting to feel like I'm in a time warp and it's 8 months ago.

Loads of pretty football, no goal. This is one of the reasons I wasn't in favour of sacking Dalglish, because the team was playing well and we were a reliable goalscorer away from finishing 3rd or 4th. I thought we'd be as well to let Kenny try and solve that as to start again and discard most of the players we'd just signed. We seem to be still in the same place, just cannot get goals. And I don't think Dempsey or Carroll would really be making a huge difference to that, if they were here. More to the point, we all said during last season that our poor luck couldn't continue and we'd turn it around. Well, our poor luck did continue, and we didn't turn it around. And now it's starting all over again.

It's frustrating as hell and I'm worried both for Rodgers (since Kenny's pretty football but no goals got us 8th place and him sacked) and the short-medium term future in general. Because if Rodgers doesn't get the results, where do we go next?

That said, I'm not even attempting to imply that we should sack him, or that he's not good enough. It's far, far too early to judge is he good enough and a fourth sacking in 3 seasons, unless we're in a desperately bad position in the latter half of the season, is not going to get us anywhere, imo.

I know it's 'in the past' and all, but I can't help but wonder where we'd be if we'd somehow held onto Torres.

Very frustated.

- Something Red -


Torres was in decline a long time before we sold him. He hardly played for Spain in the World Cup 2010 because he was on such bad form. That continued right the way through to now. Rafa was the only person that brought the best out of him at club level. I'm so glad we got rid of kenny, he was stubborn, and made far to many mistakes and excuse after excuse became embarrasing. No one has really asked themseleves why we got rid of rafa. I'm a big fan of rogers, I like his ego and his charisma and the way he makes the players play. But it doesn't take a genius to know that we were playing better football when rafa was boss. Better players, the club had heart, better achievements and we were pushing for the title not scraping 4th. The funny thing is we had the worst owners in the history of the EPL but we where still that good...funny


07 Oct 2012 22:27:30
Torres has scored 6 goals so far this season, mate and it's not even November. And he scored 3 times in about 4 games he played for Kenny in January 2011. Obviously, I can't prove it, but it's my view that Chelsea was a bad move for Torres (at least for the first 18 months) and he would've found his scoring touch again under Kenny since the ball wouldn't have been lumped to him or fizzed as his feet in a near panic as was the case for most of Roy's reign.

As for Kenny, you can say he's stubborn and made excuses blah blah blah, but it's inescapable that so far, we've not improved a jot under Rodgers. We're playing nice football, but can't find the finishing touch to it. That's exactly what we were doing last season. And the assumption that it's pure bad luck and is going to fix itself clearly doesn't hold water after more than a season of the same thing.

Now I had confidence Kenny could turn that around with maybe one or two signings and maybe a bit of luck. I have the same view on Rodgers, it's not like when Roy Hodgson was the manager and the team was flawed tactically and not even creating the chances to miss them. But if Kenny wasn't permitted the chance to fix that, I'm worried that Rodgers won't be given enough time to fix it either. If that happens, I'm concerned about where we go next.

I'm also a Benitez fan, and it is somewhat bemusing that 7th place was treated with such derision at the time that most of the fans agreed with the decision to sack him, yet we've not really improved since. But it's very unlikely he'll ever manage Liverpool again. So, not much point in talking about him.

- Something Red -


 

 

07 Oct 2012 20:54:04
GONZALO BUENO is a beast for nacional montevideo there currently playin danubio fc would defo fit in with liverpools set up!


What are you thinking of using as money to buy him? Wonga?


 

 

07 Oct 2012 20:41:52
I was at the Udinese and Stoke games. Both results were frustrating but I heard NO calls for Rodgers head. In fact the Kop chanted his name. The guy has had one transfer window, give him a chance, he knows what hes doing, get behind the team - or we'll end up with Harry Redknapp at this rate.

Wavertree Red


Cant the BR beaters over here see that he is building for the long term. He has already tied the team core - Skrtel, Agger, Johnson, Gerrard, Suarez - for the future. Now he is looking to tie these young talents - Sterling and Suso - too. Don't u get it, he is here to stay and we as LFC fans need to back him up, give him that support we are famous for, back him up and make him feel at home.

The man is feeling the pressure as is evident with the Downing comment in public. Lets all back him up, we are 1 big family albeit not a happy 1 at the moment. He will bring smiles to us soon.

Come on u REDS
mgz


 

 

07 Oct 2012 20:18:10
I understand the frustrations with Gerrard and do feel he should be used more sparingly; perhaps as an impact from the bench at times. Will BR drop/rest him or even sub him ff if he's struggling. I personally doubt it, but with Shelvey returning and also Lucas to return it'll be interesting to see what happens.

What we really lack need is a composed, modern day number 10, a player in the Silva, Mata, Carzola role. Yes Sahin has some of those skills, but he plays better in a deeper role in my opinion. BR may hope he can coax some of Cole's former skill back, but I like everyone else on here think that's more than a lost cause. What I hope happens is Suso is given a shot in due course, even if that means dropping Gerrard all together or deeper next to Allen. Suso, has that excellent slalom dribbling style, a good eye for a pass and hopefully a goal or two in him. If we play a front four of

Suso

Suarez Borini Sterling

Borini has been given a rough ride on here. But he occupies centre backs well, provides another goal threat and gives a presence up top. I love Suarez and he has some magical ability to drop a shoulder and beat a man, or four. But his runs often end in a wasted chance and if he's played deeper his impact may result in a pass, or at least a lucky bounce to someone else. Sterling may need a rest soon, as he's looking a little ineffective at times. That's not a criticism, as young players will always blow hot and cold. I just feel he may offer a little more impact from the bench. Assaidi seems the best alternative as he seems to take some time to get into a match, so despite thinking he'd be a quality super sub he to me seems best to go full tilt for 60 minutes.

In relation to today's game, I'm honestly not that surprised. Stoke are a very resilient team and most teams need a little luck to break through that defensive line. We lack a little physicality and will all season playing two diminutive players on the wings, but once the system fits (and it will), hopefully we'll have more creativity, intelligance and ability to put play even the most stubborn teams.

I can't imagine any of you will be satisfied by 8th again in the league, but if we steadily improve (including the January window impact) and finish the season strongly I'm happy for the longer term benefit. BR is the right man to develop youth, I just hope when the time comes he's got the bottle to drop players like Gerrard who now more than ever needs reminding that nobody is bigger than the club.

Papa G


Allen Sahin/Gerrard
Suso

Assaidi Suarez Sterling

BthekingB


07 Oct 2012 20:57:27
I'm not in the 'drop Gerrard' camp atm, but equally I don't like Suso as a winger, even though he's clearly quite a talented player. The 'no 10' role could be something we should look at for him.

- Something Red -


Not for the 'Drop Gerrard' just yet but certainly we should judge every player on their recent performances, captain or not.
If he has a bad game (which has become more frequent over the last 2 years when he has been fit), there should be consideration for dropping him because with Shelvey making a real impact and the possibilty of Suso shifting more centrally, he needs to realise there is somebody waiting to take his place.

Jay


 

 

07 Oct 2012 20:16:29
It's sad to see the decline of stevie gerrard,but it's clear his influence on games is no longer there.I think the manager needs to be brave enough to drop him.Still think he has a role to play,but just a slightly reduced role.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 20:12:29
After yet another drab bore draw, I cant help but think this is going to be along long long season for us. Stoke are well organised and we are very predictable. It looked like we didn't even know the questions, let alone have any answers today. BR needs to buy big and if that means selling Saurez to bring in a couple of new faces in January, then so be it. WE NEED MORE QUALITY ON THE PITCH!!
If we cannot compete with the likes of Stoke, then God help us! YNWA


Sell suarez?how old r u?hes our best player.


Have u heard yourself sell Suarez possibly our best player and what buy two mediocre players are you mad do u ppl listen to yourselves


Not a liverpool fan but how exactly did Liverpool "not compete" with stoke today. They dominated the game

Jordan


07 Oct 2012 20:43:06
how can you say the match was boring i know we didnt score but take pleasure in how we dominated the game and passed the ball round FANTASIC football at times. The players are growing in confidence with every game and the goals will come WELL DONE BRENDAN RODGERS KEEP IT UP.


We are not the first or the last team to struggle against stoke


 

 

07 Oct 2012 20:08:08
I'll tell any unhappy LFC fan this much..When the saddest day of my life befalls me and Le Prof finally hangs up his oversized Arsenal coat, Brendan Rodgers will be near the top of my wishlist for potential replacements. Modern, intelligent, thorough, thrifty, respectful and respected, eloquent, fair, firm, resourceful, tactically aware, believes in building. I think LFC have a great manager now..all he needs is time, commitment from his players, and support from the Kopites and you watch Liverpool go. Have faith. In Rodgers you should trust.

Take note, this is from an Arsenal Fan, thought this needed to be posted after the amount of people who want Brendan Rodgers out... You know what they say; "You don't know how much you miss someone, until they're gone."


Well said.

What you have got to realize is that a lot of the negative posts on this site are from WUM's, people who do not support the reds (yes that's right all you bitters and mancs, you know who you are!) and people who have never been to Anfield.


I can't agree with you more. My buddy's who are arsenal fans say the same things of BR. Sahin can score no problem in Europa same with the team. What's the problem? Gerrard; poor fk's, poor passes, ball getting picked off his feet. He is not reading the game at all right now. Shelvey, sahin and Allen should be the midfield. I wouldn't mind seeing suso in the midfield. BR has a thin squad, and youth he's trying out. He needs time. We will be a force for years to come if we can survive this season. One window is not enough time even if you have city bank money.
YNWA BR
Red American


I remember CITY finishing out of top 4 in their first 2-3 seasons of bank rolls

mgz


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:59:34
I'll just try and make a comparison even if i do get shot down for it, Last year CL semi-final Chelsea parked the bus and had 11 players behind the ball against Barcelona, could Barcelona get a break-through? No. Today Stoke (Take into account they have Rugby players as defenders and know the long ball technique VERY very well) park the bus and have 11 players behind the ball against Liverpool. Sometimes teams just cant get that little bit of penetration in the final third, it happens to the best. It's not the end of the f**k*ng world,
AsianRed


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:57:27
.why are most fans acting surprised we drew with stoke,,you guys make it sound like we have falcao and suarez upfront..common its sterling suso and suarez 17,19,25 cut them some slack pls..even chelsea with all their quality laboured to win 1-0..just accept the truth that we are pretty much average and still need more quality players to start racking up this wins...


Considering stoke play a different sport to the rest of us, not a bad result. Hard to play against rugball


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:57:17
Hi Eds
Why don't we get Carroll back, and then sign just one player... Falcao! Does it make sence? {Ed001's Note - no, Carroll is gone get on with it and Falcao is just fantasy.}


Falcao would be a fantastic signing,there's more chance of me winning the euro millions,followed by the national lottery..


I see where your coming from. If we buy him, and he gets us into champions league, he will start paying back his fee. But owners dont think like that.

Piledriver


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:56:41
I think we have to give Rodgers Time , but I am concerned with he way he treats any player Dalglish signed or brought through you don't have a chance !

He really should have had Downing on the bench not cole , Young Jack Robinson ( Hey say's donsn't have the personality ) should be at left back
Rodgers it's clear seem's to have a huge ego , but I'd say not realy achived an awful lot to warrant such an ego

and we really don't have the players for 433 and if he had signed a class forward , who would he drop ? as am sure Suarez won't play out wide

K.O.B


If we had a out and out striker Suarez should play CAM. Similar to David silva. Goals would be flying in


Suarez too selfish for that role.


Currently he's the only one who can score goals in league play. Not his fault. He did cross twice to get sahins goal against Norwich.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 20:14:25
Eds ,pulis want fa to look at Suarez dive .what about some of the challenges ,they would of got sin binned in rugby .


Couldn't agree more. I've just watch Pulis interview and he is a disgrace. His team are dirty cheating *******s.


I would be happy for the FA to look at the game, and retrospectively book Suarez, but any review would have to include a review of the Stoke players and how they managed to keep 11 players on the park.


07 Oct 2012 20:45:41
The FA should look at Huth's stamp too.

- Something Red -


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:41:33
We need to invest in a striker as soon as the window opens or this may go down as the worst season on record!.I have serious doubts to whether our owners will splash the cash.And before people start saying they've already spent a fortune,most of the money spent came from player sales.I'd love to know what there net spend is.Yeah rodgers spent nearly £30m this summer,but am i right in thinking there was still money from the raul meireles sale available?.The wage bill has been massively cut,with maxi,kuyt,aurelio,bellamy,carroll,adam and spearing all leaving.Is this money going to be made available,Very much doubt it.If the owners are not willing to invest,then they need to sell the club,simple as that.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:53:39
Thought Johnson was brutal against Udinese, epsiciallly for their 1st goal, didnt track back and a lame attempt at a block, Downing didnt cover himself in glory either in the build up to the goal. id be interested to hear who fans would have in the back-id like to see robinson-coates-agger-wisdom myself.


Agree mate. Rather have Johnson as the left winger than joke Cole.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:51:18
I've got this funny feeling something is happening behind the scenes at anfield that were not aware of.The silence from the owners is alarming.What concerns me is,the massive cut in playing staff and there wages,the failure to add to the team in the last window.Just seems to me that fsg are tidying up the books before a possible sale of the club.


Failure to add to the team? Assaidi, Sahin, Allen, Borini + extended contracts for existing players. Do you think that they would get the best price for a team who has hardly set the league alight so far and with your supposed decreased assets? I dont think so.

Andy K


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:50:33
Ed can you tell me have you heard anything about Liverpool being sold in the near future cheers.MATTYLFC {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}


07 Oct 2012 21:15:30
Would like to hear Macca's view on this.
MATTYLFC {Ed002's Note - The subject has been done to death.}


Ed what I mean is there a chance it could be done by Xmas .Im hearing storeys that it could be mate.MATTYLFC {Ed002's Note - What? A floatation? A sale to Kenny Huang? Where are these stories from?}


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:49:44
Thank God Jonjo's suspension is over!


Just what we need a one paced poor mans Charlie Adam. Shelvey the next S. Gerrard, every time I see that comment I despair.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:49:03
You have to wait a couple of hours before the true supporters come out with their verdicts.

Anything posted immediately after the match is drivel from either "real" fans or from Mancs.

Jolly Red


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:46:36
Time running out Brendan!!


07 Oct 2012 20:33:22
Get a grip u waste of space we are coming on leaps and bounds with every match.


As it is for all of us!

The Grim Reaper


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:46:35
A few comments.
1) 6 points from 7 games is not acceptable.
2) too many fans have become complacent, happy to win the possession battle and forget the result. This is not the Liverpool way
3) owners are running the club the right way in terms of finance, but their hiring and firing is frankly naive and diabolical. Sacking Dalglish after one season and a trophy set a very dangerous precedent. They have already sacked 2 managers, Rodgers is under serious pressure like it or not.
4) Rodger's failure to sign a decent striker shows he does not really learn the lessons of the past. Selling Kuyt, Maxi, Bellamy and loaning Carroll to replace with Borini is worse than pathetic. His "system" has been found out, he needs to adapt it quickly.


1. Agree

2. Not complacent. Just understand that such significant changes take time.

3. No. Dalglish was only going to be a short term solution. The terrible waste of money and poor handling of the media (Suarez situation) left FSG with no option.

4. You are branding Rodgers "pathetic"? Who the hell are you? As for his system being found out..er, do Barca often have this problem. Teams know their system. The difference between Liverpool and Barca is a few year of working with the system and perfecting it with the right players.


The difference between Liverpool and Barca is that Barca are a good team and Liverpool are not.


Yes, that's exactly what I said. A few years of working with the system and perfecting it with the right players...that's what makes Barca a good team...


Barcelona don't play in the Premier league. The only comparison to Barcelona in England is arsenal and they have won jack all in 7 years, even with the top striker in the premier league.
Give it a rest, we don't play in La Liga, there are different challenges in the premiership such as Stoke, Sunderland and West Brom!

We're NOT playing in Spain!!


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:44:14
Can someone please tell me how the bbc worked out that stoke had more possession than us.

Hounsred


BBC is always poor at the possession stat.

whoscored website gives us 64%.


Press association provide stats


They must be counting "ball in the air time".


Does possession win football matches then?


Who really cares about possession. It is about what you do with it.


Did anyone say it did win football matches? It was a question. That's all.


08 Oct 2012 02:04:18
Hi all, we should not be happy with having more possession WE LOST! 10% possession would make me HAPPY IF WE WON! lets be honest we dont know where the GOAL is if we have 90% of the ball and get beat FORGET ABOUT IT.


08 Oct 2012 02:04:31
Hi all, we should not be happy with having more possession WE LOST! 10% possession would make me HAPPY IF WE WON! lets be honest we dont know where the GOAL is if we have 90% of the ball and get beat FORGET ABOUT IT.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:42:03
I thought it was generally agreed that this is rebuilding project, blooding youth, investing in youth all guided by a young manager with good footballing ideals. So that in 2 to 3 years we will be a force again without debt. It would seem some fans understand this but some are only happy to go along with this as long as no points are not dropped along the way (ever). News! It ain't gonna happen like that. See the bigger picture or support Citeh! If FIFA13 is your thing & you feel Liverpool FC should be managed like a console game please press disagree now. Thank you.

dd


07 Oct 2012 21:14:26
Spot on mate! Listen to Macca you goons. In BR I trust


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:38:51
Another anfield draw yet again, the curse of anfield strikes again, I know stoke are a hard team to play against but it's just soooo frustrating watching us at the moment, we play good football but no end result! On the plus side we finally have a clean sheet even though we nearly conceded from over playing and stupid balls being given away in silly areas! I believe Rodgers will take us back to where we want to be but at the moment it's just not happening! It's going to take time and I'll be patient! I just see it being another season of fighting for midtable position! Champions league we can forget about! Europa league we can forget about! Midtable is our level at the moment! What worries me is that say we Finnish in midtable like I think we will then certain top players will want to leave us! I love Gerrard like all Liverpool fans but I just don't think he suits this style of football, he gets caught to much in possession giving the ball away! We need players who can make a difference but I just don't see any in our squad


Why are we not playing to our players strengths, and not some fictional system thats won no-one anything.

Isn't that what management is about? Getting the best out of your resources?
Not shuffling them off at the first hint of dislike and then whining that you weren't backed in the transfer market..Niether of the key new signings Borini or Allen have any attacking threat about them. Not game changers at all. A thirty million experiment At least there was a clean sheet today. Jmac


"a fictional system thats won no-one anything" I am pretty sure that Barca have done ok out of it and Ajax over the years + I am not sure that 'fictional' is the right word, that means that it does not exist and therefore you are saying that no one has won anything with a system that does not exist. The only fictional thing here is your logic.

Andy K


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:21:33
You could almost hear shankly saying 'get rafa on the phone'. No but seriously I'll back rogers but to an extent. 6 out of 21 is getting pretty close to crossing that line if I'm hounest.


You say you're getting pretty close to not backing Rodgers, but in the same sentence mention the Fat Waiter again - under him we may came 8th playing in PL after 6 years of the most boring football I've seen at Anfield since 1959.
I suppose you would have been calling for Shankly's head from 1967 onwards - something which by the way, Liverpool fans in them days didn't do.


We may have come 8th but we allso were rated the top team in europe and i do back brendan .you should hang your head in shame for calling rafa names go band follow some other team
soul man


Actually i can hear shankly saying "finally a manager who wants liverpool to play football not kick the ball as far as possible"


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:13:27
Rodgers needs to grow a pair and drop/substitute gerrard when he's not at his best.

MIKEY


Your the biggest douche on this page by a country mile.
JohnBoy


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:09:05
Oh my gosh!
I came on here just to read some banter of was a good game, i think most of you lads just better stick to your ps3's .
Against a very big and physical side , we played very well, normaly stoke boss us around but always seem to get a drwa at Anfield, today we controled the game and we never lost our composure. It was very good seeing the youngsters keep calm under the rough tackles they endured. Suso played a Xavi pass to Aggers , but he fell short, that was spectacular.

By the way people rant and rave here, its like u have no idea what LFC are about, i really do suggest u watch being liverpool again, cause u missed alot . Probably not today, nor tomorow, but im sure as hell that we will be the strongest side in English football , before Rodgers and FSG pass.
U just watch the space.
Red till the wells run dry...


Just more tired excuses for another game we should be winning.


True fan, true words ...


No offence bud, but Liverpool fc is not what it used to be. Lfc was all about behind closed doors. Now we have a tv series about us where everyone seems to piss about and the manager hasn't handled players well. This whole downing thing was pointless he's struggling for confidence so Brendan publicly slates him. And as for tactics, yes we look pretty at times but our defence is a shambles and we have 1 quality striker... When he doesn't embarrass us


Downing said I'm not the type of player to run around tackling, £20 million & on good wages you run you tackle,if you don't wish to compete why have a profession in a competitive sport? Give me a jimmy case or a ray houghton over a downing........
Paisley's genius


 

 

07 Oct 2012 19:00:06
I for one am happy with the way the team is shaping up like the way they play and pass, and the balance of the team, today Steve was a bit out of sorts and agree that Susa was not the man to come but B R is the manager and he has his reasons, and being a fully fledged member of KK's fan club he would have been better placed to give these youngsters more game time last season and concentrated on rebuilding the club to its former glory.

Those who can remember Shanks did not build the club in a day and that has been the problem if we had started rebuilding in the late 90's then maybe we wouldn't be in this position now so this time lets get it right and work to the finished product

TC YNWA


Same old story, Rome wasn't built in a day, blah, blah, blah. When exactly can we expect to see some good results against sides we should be beating?


 

 

07 Oct 2012 18:55:15
Clean sheet at last, hit woodwork 3 times, glen Johnson should have scored. Bossed possession & pepe didn't have much to do. All we need is a top class striker and we will be more clinical. Stoke should play rugby not football.


Eds ,why have you put one of last years posts on ... Ha ha ha same story


Having most possession is the new scoring goals on this site.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 18:52:19
I think we have a good side but we're need a striker that can change the game when plan b isn't working. Even if it was Andy Carrol. Assaidi should have been the replacement for Suso rather than Cole. When is Shelvey back cause he would have been the perfect replacement Gerrard.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 18:39:05
I am absolutely ashamed to be associated with fans who want their manager our every single time we lose or draw. I really don't want to be involved with those types of people. You make Liverpool look like a joke you immature persons.

BthekingB


It's been said time & time again...it's just rival fans dropping by for a dig after a poor result. They enjoy seeing 50 replies after posting 1 line. Forget 'em mate.

dd


I cant believe some people. Just because we drew they want rodgers out. In all my time of sipporting lfc i have never even thought of wanting the manager sacked. I just want us to improve game by game. Even with hodgson i gave him full support. What do u think is gonna happen if we sack rodgers? Are we gonna get mourinho? No, we would get someone like iain dowie! Just think before you wish for things.

Hounsred


 

 

07 Oct 2012 18:36:47
I am yet again flabbergasted with the knee jerk reactions on this site. Stoke are not an easy team to beat. OK it's a nil nil draw at home but the signs are there. The young players are looking really good and comfortable. Stoke played with 11 men behind the ball, they really parked the bus.

My only gripe's are that we need to get forward quicker when we break. Noticed today that we were quite slow giving Stoke a chance to regroup and get into position and defend and what is Suarez thinking of. He really doesn't help himself. Brendan has been at the refs for the last 2 weeks when we should've got blatant penalties and he goes and dives today. He should've been booked. So annoying.

Gazza


Football is a results business, and the fact is that Brendan Rodgers has just 1 league win from 7 games which equates to only 6 points from a possible 21. That's a similar record to Old Roy Hodgson's (and we all know what happened to him!) At the end of the day it's just not good enough.


I agree it's a results business but under Hodgson we looked terrible. We are playing really well under Brendan. Results will come with Brendan at the helm. With Hodgson as boss we looked totally lost and the day he didn't back his own players when Fergie was having a go was the last straw for me. So please in the future don't compare Brendan to Roy.

At least under Brendan we are the attacking team trying to win games.

Gazza


I feel suarez is frustrated the way refs r treating him.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 18:32:06
Whether people like hearing this or not does not bother me but it needs saying. Liverpool FC are struggling but I keep hearing supporters saying they are happy. Guys we have 6 points and lie 14th in the table. This is Liverpool Football Club. I keep hearing how pleased the manager was with our application and desire to win the game. Oh please this should be the norm for any football side both professional and Non. We have young players for a reason the club sold Kuyt, Bellamy, Adam, Rodriquez, Aqualini, Carroll, Doni has gone awol with no explanation, Downing not even considered for the bench. We have been left with no experience. Kuyt seems to be scoring regularly.

The jury is still out on Rodgers but results matter. FSG wanted someone in charge who would not argue. our club is going backwards. We deserve to be 14th simply because of the lack of real investment. I even heard one fan say great we have kept a clean sheet. Either FSG show some real desire and bring in some qualityor we are going to slip further behind.

I am sick and tired of accepting second best. What has happened to Spirit of Shankly have they lost al hope? still no stadium decision after 2 years? All we have done since FSG arrived is go backwards.


Its quite easy then..buy liverpool and see how easy it is


Thats why utd are where they are now by sticking with ferguson and not sacking him after a few months in charge, he did nothing for the first 6 years of his reign, sum supposedly Liverpool fans are a disgrace!

Jacksback


 

 

07 Oct 2012 18:15:44
I think we need someone like Remi or Llorente in Jan. Valbuena wouldn't be bad either.

Adam


 

 

07 Oct 2012 18:04:01
BTW I agree with you Ed that Gerrard had a stinker. Also, taking off Suso was tactically misplaced by BR. I'd have brought on Borini for Sterling.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 18:00:31
to be honest....we played well and that's matter. There can be days when you do not get the result you deserve. this was one such day.

positives from the game, youngsters were good, team seems to be becoming better at the way BR wants us to play.

Shail


We could of played all day and not scored true,and the football we play my be good,but it's another 2pts dropped at home,no matter how you dress it up! I don't blame Rodgers,as I think his game plan is a good one,all fingers must point at FSG for letting Carroll go,and not given BR the funds to replace him!


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:59:34
Ed002 i am not trying to be negative but the owners must see that we are not going to get into the top 4 with out much more investment in the team. If they haven't got that money then they must sell if they can find someone who has. Do you think there is a chance they will sell the club in the near future? {Ed002's Note - Yet again I will say that the owners have made very significant investment in the playing staff since they arrived. They backed Hodgson and then, to a very significant level, Dalglish. More than £30M Net spending by Rodgers this summer put Liverpool in the top ten clubs spending world-wide. Perhaps looking at the players and the coaching methods would be a better place to start than the owners. Rodgers is doing what he can and it is becoming clear that he is getting frustrated at the results. The owners have made considerable efforts to do the right thing financially and they have had to suffer being treated like crap and abused by many of the so called fans. Threats have been made as you are aware and eventually they might get pissed off enought to look for the exit so many fans seem to crave. If the club is sold, and valuations for floatation options were obtained in June as I have explained before, it could very possibly end up in the hands of institutional investors. Then who would there be to blame?}


Top four, are you serious? Top half is our ambition!
Trawlerman.


Rather convenient for you to forget the 24 Million pounds a season saved in wages from players whove left and are yet to be replaced eh Ed02? {Ed002's Note - The wages are nothing to do with transfer spending. What about the £50M loss two years ago? What about the £50M loss last year? What will the loss be this year? Who do you think is picking up the tab for that? Why do you just want to pick and choose the numbers to use? You obviously want the owners out, then more direct action is what is needed. Clearly the mothers who abused and threatened them and their families at the end of the transfer winsdow shook them up big time. Defacing Anfield helped in getting Hodgson out - perhaps something like that again?. Certainly you as a fan don't deserve the owners that Liverpool has.}


What are u going on about rh did not have a transfer window under fsg purslow was doing the deals under rbs control {Ed002's Note - Ok so it was the previous owners who supported Hodgson.}


07 Oct 2012 19:55:49
Ed2 mate you just talk about loses of liverpool and forget chelsea always have BIGGER LOSES THEN LIVERPOOL AND STILL SPEND BIG BUCKS NOT ONLY IN TRANFERS EVEN ON WAGES. YOU TALK ABOUT OUR NET SPEND AND SAY 30M BUT FORGET CHELSEA HAVE BIGGER LOSES THEN LFC AND SPEND 30M ON ONE PLAYER THEN HOW CAN WE COMPETE {Ed001's Note - what has that to do with anything? Stop caring about other teams and try supporting your own! We need the stadium issue sorted, which FSG would have liked to do first, but the fact that we have so many factions fighting for different causes has made it impossible to support yet. We can compete with Chelsea the same way Man Utd can, because we have a much larger fanbase. We just need to start utilising it, with bigger attendances and better marketing of merchandise and online viewing rights.}


You even think you are bashing your head against the wall Ed due to all these numb nuts?

FSG don't have the money the chelsea owner has

Pardoe


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:59:29
Joe Cole sub for super Suso? why BR loke Cole so much?


07 Oct 2012 20:35:24
cos cole is a london boy and he was at chelsea same time as rodgers.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:57:48
I know lots of fans are angry as we don't deserve this sh*t and know doubt some want Rogers to be sacked but let's be honest if we sack Rogers who is going to manage us under these yanks. Yanks are making Rogers job more difficult. They need to change their policies or sale the club as soon as possible if change is needed then its owners who have no idea how massive club is Liverpool fc. They know nothing about footy or how football club is managed. I want be surprised if they sack Rogers and make another mistake saying results were reason to sack him
b


The owners are running the club the right way. They were never going to spend the amounts of money they did when Kenny was in charge every summer. They have admitted themselves that was a mistake. Just look at last season, because we spent so much on players we had to stick by them and that blocked off a first team place for a young player.
This season Suso, Sterling, Wisdom etc are getting their chance coz there are no players who HAVE to play to try and justify their price tag.
The owners were right to stick to their principles in the summer of not paying over the odds. Yes we would have liked Dempsey, Walcott and Sturridge but if they were too expensive then we were right to walk away.
Give it time.
As you said, if we sacked BR who would replace him? Whats the point in changing direction when we are not even 6 months into the new plan?
Apologies for the rant.

Jay


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:57:09
I think Liverpool missed Jonjo Shelvey today but in terms of the result I guess we've really settled to mid-table status. We lacked quality in the final third and that's been the case for the past two, three years. Also I think Downing should have been preferred to Joe Cole today. We're heading into the Merseyside derby with a limp and we're short on confidence but the gap in quality between us (mid-table status) and the Chelseas of this world is frightening. FSG really need to do something about this. Sacking BR doesn't make sense...bring Mourinho in won't make any difference. If FSG haven't given up then they really should sell to someone who's prepared to invest before it's too late.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:51:10
We are young infant under BR. We are beautiful to watch but prone to mistskes and bit toothless.
But there is promise there.
We must be calm.we have a young team and we don't want them paniced and sucked into relegation battle.we have to look up potential is there.
I for one did not expect a easy season and it has been tough.
But I have feeling we will be ok and build for future.
Red indian


Potential for relegation maybe.

No team ever brings in 6 youngsters to the team and has it work. When they dont win they lose confidence and this is a downward spiral.

dont kid yourself, LFC under this regime are in trouble. Wonder which 4th spot we were targeting.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:46:53
Eds fellow reds . Just reading stoke are bullies .well are the liverpool players not grown men give it them Focking back.first rule of football if you get cracked then crack them back but even harder they will think twice then .its not about the tackles that's an excuse BR so called tika taka should have won the game .not good enough end of .roll on next season .looking forward to playing Blackburn Cardiff


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:46:06
Lets get this straight we need a striker and perhaps another winger. Suarez can't take all the pressure. Borini is not mature enough.

We don't have cash, have to sell to buy.. January window is coming perhaps a bit early to think.

We have Cole, Pacheco & Downing who are ineffective.
Get rid of these and generate the space and money for the new signings. Other wise its hopeless ..Can't wait till summer.
Crystal clear we still have some real crap at the cub. And way forward is to to dispose the GARBAGE.
Who are just here to enjoy the pay day.
We can't pile too much pressure on youngsters.. the likes of Sterling and Suso might get exhausted.

I hope BR have no favoritism towards any player. Joe Cole is not good enough Pacheco Downing are even better than him.


Paper thin squad, Hope FSG sees it.

Bosco


Borini cost double what we could have had dempsey for. So dempsey has 3 years left in him, he still could have passed on some to the youngsters coming through. We dont need a striker we are supposed to have 4, we need a brilliant striker


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:44:21
so many mancs without names here today.

shail


Expressing annoyance at that result and performance is perfectly acceptable


Shail is bang on mate!


Expressing annoyance is fine.wats not fine is the constant sack br rubbish which m sure r from the fans of other clubs


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:39:07
Newcastle well beaten, 80 mins in and listen to their support. Amazing!


Sorry but we faced a stoke side that we should of beaten. Not a united team that tottally outclassed us. Newcastle ended 5th last season after being relegated not to long ago. Liverpool finished 8th after almost wiinignthe league not to long ago. That's the difference.


When did utd totally outclass us.stop posting bs.


I guess that warrants Anfield not supporting the side then?


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:37:55
John Henry this is what you have built. I think admin might have been better then your ownership. {Ed023's Note - Why don't you head over to the Leeds or Rangers pages and ask them that.}


Nice try ed, as JH make the mess up and come out like a Hero. £400m bid is there but JH bid £300m acceprted by bouard and tom and Gerry went court for this.


Bravo! Ed23

It makes you wonder why parents let their
7 year olds on a computer unaccompanied!!

Lyndon


£400m bid? from who? That's the problem with plastic fans like you, who can't even spell Gillett correctly! Singred


I spell Gilette - wilkinsonsord


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:36:42
BR needs do 1 with his rubbish pass and loose crap football. I give him till x mas before he is sacked. {Ed023's Note - I would love to know what games people like you actually watch}


Seriously, it takes times we have some great players the spine is there, joe Allen is an amazing talent are very own xavi! Sterling ,suso,wisdom,etc just think the owners or whoever deals with transfers messed up in a big way! Luis and borini are only strikers back BR and the team we have out passed both manc teams get behind them not against them then we can pick up the points and get 4th and win a cup


Here come the rival supporters .... Zzzzzz.


Care in the Community!

Lyndon


Sorry but 'it takes time' should not be used ever again. Last season we said it over an over again and finished 8th. AVB is doing well at spurs but did that take time? Not to mention Steve Clarke at west brom. If your a top side, it shouldn't take time. We are not a top side anymore.


How well avb,br,steve clarke did will be decided at the end of the season.


Avb was pathetic at chel people seem to forget just to make a stupid argument.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:36:16
Does make me wonder why seeing as we're blooding youngsters in all other areas of the pitch why aren't the likes of Yesil and Morgan on the bench for days and games when Suarez is having an off day as it appears even Rodgers has lost patience with Borini using Cole and Assaidi ahead of him
To be a top 4 side you need 4 good strikers preferably 2 world class at the moment we have one very creative and not much more.
Time to give Yesil a start and controversial I know revert back to 442


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:34:23
haha..all you paper fans are back again..remember how this place was after norwich,now we are back to the same old rodgers must go we need a striker gerrard isnt good enough.bla bla bla...i dont know the magic wand you think rodgers has that all our problems would just go away..u better brace up for more of this till january


How much sh1t can someone say and get away with it. Paper fans? who the ef are you to suggest that because someone has an opinion they are paper fans?

And another thing, why do we have to wait til january when to be honest if Rogers was good enough we would have got sorted during the summer.

Rogers is ALREADY exasperated. Its in his eyes and his body language. He aint big enough and never will be.


07 Oct 2012 18:31:28
huh??what rubbish are u putting up with after 7games...we are not halfway into the season and u already know he aint good enough cos he's 39 and inexperienced...if you were smart enough you would notice we need better players before we can reap the rewards of his system...


Supporters have an opinion,paper fans hav hate n crave instant success.it took alex ferg 6 years to create a team tat is ruling english football for the past 20,it took shanks time to build a liverpool team to rule for 30 years


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:24:32
Evening eds fellow reds , looks like same story as last season loads of the ball couple of shot of the bar or post .dont see us in the top half of the table at the end of this season . It's all very well saying we need a top striker in January but we won't get one because we not a top premiere team anymore .mid table at best


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:23:15
Observation after today's game,we need to play passion football before we can start playing passing football

Derek


Exactly mate...

So sad the likes of Stevie G have no longer the hunger and passion we saw in him.

Time to drop to bench..

Bosco


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:32:27
I said from the start of the season we would finish somewhere between 10th and 6th and I still believe we will. The 4 positives to take out of today's game where Reina was back to his high standard, a clean sheet, Wisdom goes from strength to strength, and the same for Suso.

The 2 negatives where Stevie.G continued decline in form continues and secondly as we all can see the lack of a natural goal scorer is turning 3 points into either 1's or 0's.

Roll on Lucas's return, once Lucas is back I wonder if BR will have the bottle to drop Stevie and play a midfield of

Shelvey. Lucas. Allen

Followed by a forward line of

Sterling. Suarez. Suso.

Once January 1st arrives BR needs to buy a natural goal scorer, blow the budget on one world class striker. Sell Downing Cole Enrique whoever it takes add 20-30 million and get the player we are missing, it's that simple.

Then push on for the remainder of the season to finish as high as we possibly can.


Curled1


We also need suarez to look up and pass the ball in the box instead of shooting from impossible angles


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:25:38
The way to sort out bullies is to give them a good slap on the jaw. That's exactly what that Stoke team needed today yet we allowed them to 'bully' us in the first half.. Mind you, Shelvey wouldn't of lasted half an hour on that pitch watching all that happen. The Stevie of old would have been more vocal and in their faces. We all know it's a striker and today proved it. Personally, I'm still very optimistic albeit a little disappointed as we dominated (again).

DaveyBootle


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:15:27
lets face it, the only major change by the end of the season, if mr. rodgers is still at the helm, will be championship football and another 10 games like this will surely sink us. please bring in a manager who can turn the season around before it is too late!
most may say give him more time, why when he is like a fish out of water and cannot handle a team like liverpool.for gods sake MR HENRY and co act now before it is too late.


What are you on about "IF" he's on charge
The mans had 7 games to change the whole style of play. Brought kids and your questioning his position.
Who do you want in next week if we get beat next week or the week after.

Lyndon


Here we go again, hell has frozen over


I dont know why edd allows punks like you to post..is rodgers a magician?? he is stiill trying his best with an average squad and you keep complaining..


07 Oct 2012 18:21:18
People like you make us all seem like persons, fish out of water?really how many better liverpool teams have lost to stoke. Bring in another manager again? To what end and who do you suppose we bring in? I bet you couldn't name a realistic name if you put all your mind to it, disgustingly fickle, clueless, short sighted post. Shame leem


07 Oct 2012 18:32:59
Football is all about results bussiness and Rogers has failed to produce results. Liverpool fc is a massive club its unacceptable to club of this stature finishing midtable every season. Nope I'm not saying Rogers needs to be sacked but something need to change as soon as possible. Its depressing to see club of this stature compared to stoke or wigan or everton by some fans plz stop it we are massive club


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:08:00
The br fsg cheerleaders will be on later telling everyone who does not back there view point ov the game that they should follow a another team .face facts fsg have destroyed our season with there wage culling poilcy the squad is paper thin and one proven prem forward


The reason that the "br fsg cheerleaders" will be on later is that adults are allowed to stay up later. We need to avoid going to such extremes after every game, it will drive you nuts. We should have been happy with the Norwich win, but thinking all of our issues were solved was delusional, and in the same manner, the draw today, and first clean sheet, should be taken for what it is, another step on the journey. Same with our view on players, one week Gerrard is a god and the next, it is time to call it a day. We need to just relax, enjoy the wins but not get carried away, we need to be disappointed when we dont win, but no act as if the sky is falling.

Andy K


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:07:58
A good point in my most honest opinion, before any gets on my back what could we do? we were playing football with a team who obviously felt rugby was on the agenda instead, Huth...what an excuse of a footballer, Stoke set out for a draw before the match began, hope Suarez is ok they bullied him beyond belief and unfortunately nothing was done about it but again there are always positives;
-Finally a much needed clean sheet
-Suso is developing into a class player, can see him, Allen and Sahin (if he stays perm) bossing games for years to come.
A win would've only lifted us to 13th but 2 more points would've been greatly appreciate, ah well could've been a 0-1 loss. Hold your heads up lads and look forward to Lucas' and Shelveys comebacks and the Reading game YNWA.
AsianRed


Could have taken off the worst player on the pitch...Steven gerrard. Not having a go at him because he was a quality player but he doesn't have it anymore. I'm talking about the whole package. It's like he knows he's going to play and he can do whatever. Rafa would've taken him off. That's why most people want him back. Because he had no emotional attachment to any of the players, no one is bigger than the club. Everything went through gerrard (our worst player today) and that's why we couldn't create anything.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:07:41
Incredibly frustrating to watch - Stoke is really the epitome of all things ugly about football. We should have won had Suarez been clinical with his shots. Suso and Sterling were awesome, and Allen shone with his forward runs (take note of that, all you doubters!). On a more positive note, it's our first clean sheet! Let's push on for better things to come! Singred {Ed023's Note - Suso should of been kept on the pitch. Borini on Gerrard was off was the change. Leave Suarez, Suso, Sterling & Borini play as free roles in front 4 with Sahin and Allen holding. Gerrard was awful again today}


Sahin should have stayed on and Borini come on instead of Cole - Suarez works best playing off a centre forward. Cole did bugger all when he came on. Singred


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:05:49
if FSG had no money to invest in the club,they had no right buying it!

fryingpan?fire springs to mind!


I think you need reminding that they did invest 240m to stop us from going bankrupt!

If it wasn't for them we wouldn't exist so I think you need to be a bit more grateful. Let's not forget the fact that they did allow Kenny to spend all the money from the Torres transfer when they could simply have siphoned it off as profit as some other owners do.

So far the only thing that fsg have got for their patience and investment is poor results and an intense lack of gratitude from some fans. The poor results are down to playing and coaching staff, not board room. They also allowed Rodgers to spend 10m on a completely unproven striker, that sound like someone unwilling to invest to you?

Nevada


Person!!
Springs To Mind.

Lyndon


They got one of the worlds biggest football clubs for a fraction of it marketable value,and yes they did spend big at first,but we were promised a future at the highest level. Being able to compete with the likes of UTD CITY CHEL and so on,but still no news on the new ground,inept transfer policy,and it doesn't look like changing any time soon!

Rodgers is there man,So back him! {Ed002's Note - What new ground would that be. The manager's have decided which players they want - not the owners.}


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:04:53
If we had gotten a striker in the window I doubt we wouldve seen so much of the youngsters. I also feel that Suso will become a gem of a player but should be played more centrally...


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:01:50
What are the players thoughts to Brendan Rogers? I think it will come good but at the moment, the personnel up top just isn't clinical enough.
Also, after Downings comments, could that see him out the door come January?

Gav the Red


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:01:22
Well look at the bright side. We got a clean sheet!

Keith YNWA


Completely agree about the clean shee. This is the only TRUE tangible indication of progress. The team were the third best defence last season. That had been lost for the first part of this season. The downside is that teams know what to expect now from Liverpool under BR. If they go forward they expose themselves. If they don't, they aren't likely to score. Plan A and a half isn't quite enough. Jmac


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:01:19
I am absolutely sick of watching us not score after dominating games. We need a striker in January and if FSG don't provide the cash then they need to piss off. Otherwise eighth is where we will be come the end of the season. I like Rogers style and I feel we are only a striker away from a good season.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:00:44
and that is what I talked about last week. It is not the mancs and chelrubbishs that we can't beat, it is the STOKE and WIGAN that we must beat as they are the thorn in us that we can't take out in order to reach top 4.

bad luck today, but BR had a plan B for Stoke in the first half which did not work out, so went back to plan A which seemed to work except for some poor finishing.

This was the same as usual from the last 4 years. No crying and no sobbing from me. Just a simple observation and remark -

WE HAVE A LONG LONG WAY TO GO STILL.

mgz


Btw, I am extremely happy with the clean sheet. hopefully many more to come

mgz


You can't beat the top teams either


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:00:19
Anybody missing Carroll yet?


Not at all, would have he scored today ?
Almost definitely not.

Hans


I think in the last 10 mins when we started c tossing the ball,he would of had a better chance to,than nobody!


The purchase of Carroll was a major mistake.
This mistake is part-way to being rectified.
We neither want nor need Carroll.

Puzzled


 

 

07 Oct 2012 17:00:01
joe allen might be an ok player but he makes no diffrence what so ever. he makes the same impact that henderson does.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:59:36
It is just not good enough. Plain and simple. Top half finish if we are lucky. Kenny should never have been given the boot for this pile.....


Go away Moran!!
He gives the ball away far less than
Gerrard at the Moment.
It was nothing to do with his part of the game today, it was lack of men in the box
and bad finishing!

Did you actually watch the game or is this
Your usual random Twoddle!!

Lyndon


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:59:01
Haha liverpool are a joke a mid table team now what top player is even gonna think of joining liverpool what can liverpool offer them nothing and thats coming for a liverpool fan bad bad bad times for us


Since when do mid table teams dominate every team they play against?


You ain't no Liverpool fan mate.


Every team?
WBA!!


 

 

07 oct 2012 16:58:54
we need a striker we need a striker we need a striker!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how many times a f***ing year do i have to say this?
these people are supposed to know what they are doing - we had 70% possession last season in most games and couldn't score. what does this tell you? listen!

sick and tired

p.s not dempsey. a class striker - who scores goals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we had an ok defence and a rubbish attack - now we have a rubbish defence and a rubbish attack. help me


gazman


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:58:45
Spurs winning and United cruising to victory and Liverpool unable to beat Stoke!! I am just sick and tired of "having patience". Rodgers needs to sit Gerrard on the bench for a while and NOT use Cole at all!! Dismal!


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:58:32
If this is going to work for Rodgers then Gerrard needs to be dropped. . .he simply can't adapt to the way Rodgers wants to play. his control his awful, his short passing is awful and he's constantly trying to play the Hollywood ball over the top which comes off once every 10 games.. his performance this season has been no better than Downing's so he should find himself in the same place

Adam


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:58:24
Hodgson had 26 points from 18 league games before he was sacked by FSG.
Brendan take note......


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:57:59
I'm a fan of what Rodgers is trying to do, but this game's shown three vital problems.

1) The defenders have far too much of the ball when LFC have possession (cause there is far too much passing backwards and poor positioning/movement)
2) Need a coach who can show all players (not just forwards) composure and finishing.
3) Need to be much slicker and quicker on the counter.

So frustrating at the moment to see the domination of games with out the cutting edge up front, but sort these things out we'd be laughing all the way in to the top four!

El Diablo!


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:57:37
This is getting ridiculous theres no product in the final 3rd absolute rubbish...JOE COLE needs to be in the reserves. BR's got us playing brilliant football but we need a STRIKER.


Errr ...brilliant football means winning games and cups. No one remembers also fans as great footballing teams. Jmac


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:56:48
steve clark should be the liverpool coach right now we would be in the top 4


Person!
No wonder you dare not put your name to
That Crap!!

Lyndon


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:53:33
it is so obvious we need that extra quality going foward...well at least our first clean sheet


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:53:25
More of the same. Lots of pretty passing. Nothing to show for it but a point. I see alot of potential, but we have got one long season ahead of us. 6 points out of 21. Ouch.


 

 

07 oct 2012 16:52:50
clean sheet!!!!

bthekingb


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:51:46
Hey LFC fans

How many of your players do you think could still be playing in the Premiere league at a high level in 10 years time?


I think allen and sterling, and others not :) {Ed023's Note - Suso?}


Wisdom, Kelly, Robinson, Coates, Allen, Henderson, Shelvey, Suso, Sterling, and probably Carragher

Joe


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:49:23
Fortress Anfield me thinks not....

Where as the twelfth man gone...

Where has the passion gone..

Where is the belief...

Lacklustre and no self belief...


It was so quiet in the second half it was unbelievable

Keith YNWA


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:49:16
hey lfc fans..

as i guessed.........stokes tactics were better than ours

and we still need to improve our home form over the course of this season in order for it to be set next year
hopefully with some new signings

anyway..im content cos i know this seasons will be up and down

red lobster


The Tactic of just fouling and the Ref letting them get away with it!!
Plum!!

If I was a Stoke fan I'd rather watch
Them play in the Confrence. Than play
that way to stay in the Premier League

Pulis "the Old Chav dad in a baseball cap and tracksuit all he needs is the pitbull"
Is a danger to Football!!

Lyndon


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:48:57
Woodwork 3 times again today.... So frustrating.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:47:12
Rogers is now clutching a straws. Joe WHO? or WHY? I cant see how this is going to be allowed to continue. Yeah we won last week but who against and yes we gave united a good time but when don't we?

I have said it before and will say it again, Rogers is not big enough for this club and this club is just too big for some of these players.

It has to stop. In youth there is no experience and that includes the manager.

RedalLover


Agree to an extent. It's not the club that's big anymore let's be real here. We are midtable and all that is 'big' now is our history. Rogers talks the talk but we were outplaying teams last season but still losing/drawing. The only positives from rogers being appointed is youngsters now have the chance but at what cost. Our reputation has been tarnished, anfield is not what it was. And gerrard needs someone to put him in his place. If he thinks he's an automatic first teamer that everytime he loses the ball he can blame others but that shouldn't be the case. Gerrard is a legend but so was carra...so was kenny, but when it's your time, it's your time. No doubt when shelvey or Lucas comes back somehow Sahin will be the one that needs to step aside when it clearly should be gerrard. Pressure is on for rogers 6 out 21...


Good comments though my opinion of Stevie differ slightly. He is having to adapt aswell and new tricks to old dogs never was easy.

LFC is in my eyes a big club. Not because of its table ranking but for several other reasons. World Wide fan base is one, world expectation is another and then because of its history.

The 12th player aint so good anymore either. I heard 2500 nunited fans drown the Kop out a couple of weeks ago. Anfield is as good as its leaders and I am sorry to say all are sub standard. The yanks dont know enough and are applying policy that may work in the states where there are 400 million to choose from. Rogers will get lost in these performances and his body language is already matching that of KKs late last season.

Frankly it is a disaster.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:46:45
Hodgson also had 6 points from 7 games.
Worrying times for Rodgers


Nope! all of us can see what he's trying to do. Rome wasn't built in a day, only bats and blind mice like you can't see it - that's all! Singred


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:44:50
Gerrard has lost all of it. Spirit, the will, the quality. I guess with age things like this happen.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:44:28
Come on reds


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:38:44
Gerrards ball control is shocking at times...


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:36:07
Are we just unlucky or just useless at finding the target. We can't score. Driving me crazy.


We thought it was bad luck last season, I think we all know it's more than that by now


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:31:02
would rather assaidi than cole but just a personal opinion. come on lads pinch a goal!


 

 

07 Oct 2012 16:28:11
Suso off sounded like i best player on pitch and for cole that waster


 

 

07 Oct 2012 15:51:48
There's physicality and there's just plain old dirtiness and fouling.

Stoke were just plain dirty in the first half. Lost a bit of respect for them.

- Something Red -


It's been that way for a long time for me.


07 Oct 2012 17:29:04
that is just how stoke are. we can't go all arsene whinger and complain about that, it's up to us to have better tactics and skills to beat them. we didn't so perhaps you should be complaining about that instead?

kev from skem


Well no kev - actually it's up to the referees to do something about it

Puzzled


07 Oct 2012 20:59:30
Never seen 'em as bad as today.

- Something Red -


 

 

07 Oct 2012 15:51:36
Probably the worst first half I've seen from liverpool. For some reason we seem to think knocking long balls aimlessly to no one is a better idea against a physical team rather than getting it down and playing football. Gerrard has to be one of the worst on the pitch, gives the ball away and just stands there, plays long balls but never pulls it off, and his free kicks are always over hit. Brendan rogers needs to grow a pair and he needs to come off. Reina is just a joke, he's playing long balls to no one and its so frustrating. Liverpool is a team that is very hard to watch nowadays. It's easy to look good against poor teams.


Mate...go away! We aren't playing fantastically but when you play against stoke (especially today) you can't play neat short passing and dribble everywhere because if you do you'll get your legs broken!

I agree that we can play better but you don't seem like a supporter...more so you seem like someone who HATES liverpool! and possibly everything that is good and holy in this world ;)

Canadian Red


You clearly haven't been watching the match. All that gerrard is doing is pinging the balls to no one. We have a real lack of quality in the final third. Your name suggests your from Canada so stick to ice hokey.


Love that! My name "suggests" i'm from canada?! Mate CANADIAN basically states that I am! The fact that you post anonymously suggests that you don't have the balls to put your name on your point of view!

I love that because I've disagreed with you, you have gone on the defensive about it.

Gerrard did more than just ping balls out of bounds. Yes he wasn't at his best today but what do you expect?! This isn't fifa mate, people don't just play well ALL the time. He had an off day (as did most of our team).

We lacked quality in the final third yes and we definitely need to sort this out but it's not as if we can play long balls in the air to Suarez can we? We tried and lost the first and 2nd balls every time.

Things are looking better though. We are playing better and with another striker or a bit more invention we would have won the game!

Canadian Red


 

 

07 Oct 2012 15:51:27
tackles going in are getting ridiculous.suarez is taking the brunt of it.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 15:49:05
Ridiculous how aggressive Stoke are today. Surely the stamping on Suarezs chest was a red card? {Ed023's Note - It would but ref can't see everything although he is having a poor game}


 

 

07 Oct 2012 15:48:33
Where's downing?,take it the manager didnt take to kindly to his comments to the media.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 15:41:30
Stoke are an ugly bunch of bullies


 

 

07 Oct 2012 15:39:14
Im watching the commentry on lfctv and it sounds like a all out kicking war on Stoke's behalf? {Ed023's Note - Ref isn't protecting us at all.}


 

 

07 Oct 2012 15:27:22
Suarez is like a bullied school kid and the refs aint doing nothing!


 

 

07 Oct 2012 14:43:36
any good sites to watch the game 2day guys thanks. {Ed002's Note - Try thefirstrow.eu.}


 

 

07 Oct 2012 14:37:25
Just a topic area which I feel people get the wrong idea about:

I dont like it when people say a fullback is a defender first and foremost and then his attacking play comes into question. I dont agree with this because I feel gone are the days when full backs are pure defenders. Full backs are the ones that give the teams width (not many play with wingers anymore) and are expected to bomb up the field and allow the DM (Lucas or Allen) to drop back in between the centre halves.

For this reason (our style of play) I think Johnson is brilliant and I would hope he doesn't try and hold back purely because at the moment we are conceding a few goals. We are going to attack as a team and defend as a team.

AZ


 

 

07 Oct 2012 14:19:14
Good aftnoon Reds and Ed's
Dispite the start to the season I am very happy with BR as manager. The results are not fantastic and our defence needs consistancy but that will all come together in time. At last Sterling is a first team player along with Suso and Wisdom is now used in squad rotation. Morgan, Yesil & Sinclair have all been given a game as has Robinson so I believe next in line will be Teixeira. We were never a big signing club instead we made our signings and developed them into big players. I have been on these pages since the begining and before that the original site and one point has always been raised "When will the academy produce first team players" and the answer pure and simple has always been when we have a manager prepared to take a chance. Sterling will become amazing but it will be Suso that will become the better player out of the two in my opinion.
Scouse_Pride


 

 

07 Oct 2012 14:18:36
Hey Eds
What are the chances of Wilfried Zaha from Crystal Palace. fits the FSG model, and a fantastic young player

great job guys,
YNWA YNWA {Ed002's Note - I am by no means convinced but for some reason there has been speculation linking him before. I would have thought there was the priority of a striker to deal with first. Assaidi, Sterling, Suso, Downing all broadly fall in to the same wide player profile as Zaha.}


 

 

07 Oct 2012 14:17:01
great to see br stick with suso , sterling and wisdom today they were given there chance and performed well . happy to see young players being given a chance again gives a breath of fresh air to the squad
team in full . reina wisdom skrtel agger johnson allen gerrard sahin suso suarez sterling
johnaldinioh


 

 

07 Oct 2012 13:36:08
Hi ed's...guys/girls, Can anyone please tell me, apart from internet streaming, is the Liverpool game on tv anywhere today (sky/espn/setanta Ireland etc)
Only a few lads wanna see the game and I wanna go to the pub :)
Thanks


 

 

07 Oct 2012 13:18:45
Think Suares is going to score a couple today,
I also think he's going to score 30+goals this season.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 12:43:53
What's most pleasing with Agger committing his future to the club is we now have a core of young players including Lucas, Suarez, Shelvey, Skrtel, Allen and possibly Sahin who believe in Rodgers and carry out his vision to make our club great again!
Singred


Skrtel is not young hes 27/28


27/28 is young for a centre back. That is when most centre backs peak.

BthekingB


 

 

07 Oct 2012 12:38:22
Hi Edds, Sorry to bother you what with all the people asking you about this player and that player.. when they think you all know everything,, Some people just dont appreiciate you lot.. Have you heard anything on the stadium plans wether were staying or moving,, and do you think the yonks are just in it for the money ?

Great site BTW ! DuffBeer ! {Ed002's Note - The situation with the stadium remains an upgrade to Anfield as far as I am concerned.}


 

 

07 Oct 2012 12:24:11
hey lfc fans..

i want liverpool to win in any way we can...........

but ....

im still annoyed with our defensive play...

SO REMEMBER THIS...............

johnson..flies past the halfway line

as gerrard or allen have the ball...while all stoke players sit back....as soon as one of these midfielders crosses the halfway line...whether they get tackled or a missed pass....just watch stoke break and somehow score..cos only 2 centrebacks are left cos everyone else is in the opponents half..and its hard to defend that way

why do i say this..............?

because its happened in every game so far

im not hating here...just highlighting what im sure will happen today

RED LOBSTER


Johnsons useless at defending mate, all the EPL managers seem to see it and exploit it.
I hope Kelly knocks him out the team by next summer.

MIKEY


This is the same Johnson that was part of one of the best defensive back 4s in the Pl last year. Or maybe it was just the other 3? The same player that has been picked consistently for right back for England? The same player that posters thought he had a clause in his contract that when fit he had to play right back yet has spent all this season playing left back for Rodgers? Great player and certainly not too many better right backs and certainly not English ones.

The Irish Rover


07 Oct 2012 13:51:56
People still thinks Johnson as an attacking Player...there is no doubt he is getting in to attacking position but u can't see picking a pass on cross. And, there is every chance of him lossing the postion when the team is in attacking position. I think he is vunerable in attacking positions which is a worry

Indian Red


Johnson is not a defensive right back. We play attacking football and our full backs attacking ability is essential in our attacking play. The more offensive the full back the better chance of creating a chance. Johnson will always be in my attacking line-up ahead of Kelly but I do prefer Johnson on that left hand side so he can cut in and shoot/cross but he also has a decent left foot.

BthekingB


 

 

07 Oct 2012 12:17:05
The game against stoke is a must win today.We had a good victory against norwich,now we need back to back victories to judge whether or not the players are finally coming to terms with the managers methods.Our defence needs 100% concentration against stoke today.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 12:15:24
Hi all
anyone know where i can watch the game {Ed002's Note - thefirstrow.eu}


 

 

07 Oct 2012 11:53:40
I'd settle for 1-0 today. We have to keep a bloody clean sheet soon. No nonense,no frills,keep it tight,nick a goal,keep th clean sheet and confidence will come. Also,if wee lose,blame Ed052,he is an anfield jinx! ;). Just kidding Ed ya know we love ya! ;)
WBD


 

 

07 Oct 2012 11:51:40
Hope to see the kids playing again today i hope br allows suso to drift in field and make his deft passes. Big onus on Steve g to get forward and link up with Suarez.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 11:49:57
A home win, clean sheet and a few goals scored to keep the momentum going. Lets climb up the table and make people believe in the good work that is going on at the club.

I think the international break will not do us any good. The senior players will be away and it's them are needing the more work to get to grips with the system they are being asked tro play.

Gazza


 

 

07 Oct 2012 11:27:41
Hope suso get's recalled today,really think his creativity,and his clever play will cause stoke problems.I dont think borini should start,as stoke's defendrs will rough him up.Coates should start to try and deal with peter crouch.


What a terrible argument. So you'll think they'll rough Borini up but they'll leave Suso well enough alone will they? I'd start Suso on the basis he's a class act
JohnBoy


 

 

07 Oct 2012 11:03:50
Hi eds With downing having a pop at the manager through the media,do you think that will be the final straw for the manager,and he will be sold. {Ed002's Note - A lot has been made of a throwaway comment that Downing was disappointed in the manager's comments. No doubt others are as well.}


I think Thursday night showed why Downng hasn't been a success at LFC and why he probably never will be.
He set Shelvey's goal up with a fantastic cross but no one seems to remember that part (as well as BR coz I dont think theres any chance he will start today). This is because his all round contribution to the team was pretty poor. He didnt supply constant crosses into the box, he never took the ball past a man three or four times in the game and he rarely threatened the goal with his shooting.
However if he produced that one cross at Villa or Middlesborough everyone would be banging on about his crossing ability and what a natural winger he was.
LFC demands more from players than one moment of quality in an entire game and the quicker he gets that the better.

Jay


Hope he's angry enough to respond well on the pitch

AZ


07 Oct 2012 13:19:26
Jay mate I think we need to keep things behind closed doors no matter what. It just shows pressure is getting on Rogers especially the way we have started our seasson. Rogers needs to be calm and keep things behind closed doors. Slating each other on media won't solve but will increase problems and we all know how media loves liverpool.


 

 

07 Oct 2012 10:11:42
I'd take a 1-0 all day today. I know that sounds dull, but a straightforward win and a clean sheet us just what we need.

Papa G


 

 

07 Oct 2012 09:46:13
Really got my fingers crossed for a solid win today. Quietly confident but we need to keep it tight at the back as if we conceed first I think we will find it hard to break Stoke down.
A win would really push the season on but I dread to think what a home defeat or even a draw would do to confidence and league progress.
Hoping we get the first goal then pick Stoke off when they have to come out and attack us.
Going 3-1 to the red men with Crouchy scoring for Stoke.

Jay


 

 

07 Oct 2012 04:16:44
Hi eds. I wonder what has become of Marco Bueno.
He is liverpool's player?
I know 2011Summer we get him. But not work permit so he stay at Pachuka.
He will join us? {Ed002's Note - Nothing came of it when he became 18.}


 

 

07 Oct 2012 09:16:25
Can anyone tell me why Enrique is not even making the bench? The amount of goals we are conceding because of Glen Johnson playing left back is unreal. Surely, Enrique can do a better job there. Is he also a victim of the Andy Caroll Treatment?

Paki-Red


Dont think it is fair to blame our poor defensive record all on Johnson playing out of position.
I think he has been one of our better players this season because he fits the system so well. Obviously he is better going forward than he is defensivley but we have known that since he signed for us, and I think he has improved the defensive side of his game.
Think the problem of leaking goals has been due to individual errors from the likes of Reina, Skrtel, Gerrard, Coates AND Johnson, missing Lucas more than we thought we would and, like in the West Brom and United game, going down to 10 men.

Jay


He is injured.
KJS


I don't mind johnson, but he isn't very good defensively, the way I look at it is that when he was at Chelsea mourinho didn't see anything in him n sold him coz he's a liability defensively, we paid way to much for a defender who is only good at attacking! He's one player who needs to be sold in my opinion n we can get a better replacement!


100% agree Jay.


Man City's defence got undone time and again the other night in Europe but Joe Hart pulled off a series of World Class saves. "That's what World Class keepers do?"
For all City's great players if we just swapped Goalies with them? Where would they be? Where would we be?
Conclusion! Pepe needs to step up his game before January? Or can see Brendan definitely looking to bring in a Goalie. His poor form is definitely having a negative effect on our defenders.
Isn't a pity we never got Brad Friedel last year? Now that would have been serious competition for Pepe.
kidmillions


Regardless of his fitness levels, Enrique just isn't good enough. It's not that I don't support our players it's just I think the player is a one-footed liability at times who needs to lose a few pounds and stay off the weights.

DaveyBootle


Thought about the same just last night mate :)


 

 

07 Oct 2012 08:48:48
Gonna win today, big, big win.

LFC 7 - 1 Stoke

Suarez alone will bag four and Suso and Sterling will open their accounts, while Sahin will take his league tally to two.

And still that scoreline will flatter Stoke, will be a massive stroke of luck for Pulis and his henchmen, as it could be much, much worse.

Have taken a bet on this. Reckon you should too. Am gonna be terribly loaded tonight. He he!

*rupertnorth'sxpertanalysis*


07 Oct 2012 09:07:05
Luv the optimism, maybe a realistic score would be 7 3 lol leem


Think we will win 2-1. 2 - 0 up by half time, Stoke score early in the second half. Still dominating the game, and we'll get another goal in the 70-80th minute.


07 Oct 2012 11:54:14
so that would be 3-1, great maths there kidda


Post above, if ur saying we will win 2-1 and be 2-0 up at half time then stoke will score early 2nd half but we will still dominate game and score again in the 70th-80th min, explain to me how it will end 2-1 like u said it will


 

 

07 Oct 2012 07:25:58
So I got my second Liverpool-related tattoo on Monday, and considering tomorrow's the match and it's about to time to bust out that bad boy with pride, who all here has ink for the cause? Just curious! I'm getting addicted!

McSnuggles!


I have a liverbird on my back and you'll never walk alone wrote down my inner forearm


I've got a huge tattoo of Igor Biscan on my back. I really regret it now.


At boy at 17 loves his tatoo's

A man of 47 made not like them so much

While a man at 67 will look silly with tats on him

Maybe you should reconsider before getting more done

Bhudda


Two liver birds, one on each forearm, one classic and one of the 05 CL liverbird


Bhudda, I think at 21 I'm old enough to make a decision on what I want on my body forever, and what better than something Liverpool? A liverbird on the outside of the right arm and YNWA on the inside of it!

McSnuggles


 

 

07 Oct 2012 04:25:14
My wanted list. ST-Hunterlarr/Dabid Villa
WF-Mertens/Dzagoev/Son heung min
LB-Monreal CB-Howedes GK-Marc-Andre ter Stegen

How about this list? {Ed063's Note - Yip, it's definitely a list. Well done}


Ed063, i love you. {Ed063's Note - And I love you - where shall we Wed?}


Obvious place would be old Trafford. Lol ;)
Huddz red


 

 

06 Oct 2012 23:42:04
Ed do you see similarities between Suso and Cazorla, by this I mean play those little defense splitting passes because I think Cazorla's the best in the country at those and I was wondering if you knew if suso has the ability to do these.
Cheers
NotInTheKnow {Ed063's Note - I'd say if I were to compare Suso to a player it would be David Silva. But I think Suso is very unique so can't really be compared to anyone}


Suso is like a snowflake!


Strangest comparison for a player I have EVER heard!
Loving the support for him tho.

Jay


Agree with the david silva part


Didn't Cazorla used to be a team mate of Reina's who must have known how good he is? Yet he goes to Arsenal when were crying out for that type of player. {Ed002's Note - You are incredibly naive,}


Reina probably knew how good Iniesta and Xavi were when he was at Barca, doesn't mean they are going to sign for us.

Jay


Didn't Alonso influence Sahin on deciding to join Liverpool it's naive to think this doesn't happen? There lots of intances of players influenced by other players to join a club.


SUSO is suso. Silva does not bring the arrogance that Suso has shown in his games which makes Suso way better than Silva.

mgz


To be fair Ed 002, when I was at school my mate got me a job painting caravans one summer at his dad's holiday park. So it can happen.


Suso has greater potential than silva in my opinion. He can take players on which silva can't plus he has a better range of passing. However he doesn't work hard enough which silva does.


Nonsense! If you were to tell me that Suso would be as good as Silva i would bite your hand off. Silva is an incredible player and could easily play for Barca. Hes that good.

The Irish Rover


 

 

 
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