Liverpool Banter Archive May 07 2013

 

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07 May 2013 23:36:29
Anyone read Gary Neville team of the year he out suarez in a in other words said he's carried us and were a one man team. Yet when it comes to van Persie and bale he says nothing! Van Persie not so much but Tottenham without bale would be with us! How can he say suarez has carried us?! He's helped as much as van Persie, bale, michu bla bla

London red

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08 May 2013 00:24:28
tbf mate without suarez where would we be? united woulda had chico scoring so may not have finished 1st but probs second. without luis we woulda had no one else replacing him with any quality so he has kind of carried us so far up the table. Tottenham aren't as good without bale but still better than us without suarez

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08 May 2013 02:01:46
Don't totally agree. Ok, Suarez has done a tremendous amount of work and saved the team on occasions but, I believe that when Suarez is not in the team, the rest of the lads try harder because they know there is no other option than doing it them selves. If we lost Suarez in the summer, I'm sure we will be fine. BR will fine some gem somewhere and probably surprise us all. Fingers crossed tho, just in case!

Jimmy

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Bbc did a league table without each teams top scorer and United were still top Liverpool still 7th and Tottenham just ahead in 6th

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Is this the same Gary Neville who played for united cause in that case his opinion means nothing he has always said bad things about lfc of course he wouldn't put Suarez on his team of the year he is a joke of a man. {Ed023's Note - He was of the only pundits on Sky to back Suarez after the bite.}

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London red suarez does so much for us he puts the work in of 3 players look how sturridge plays not knocking sturridge but he does nothing compared to suarez.
please brendan learn from your mistakes borini, allen etc and think hard about who you buy as they must be first teamers and not maybes for the future.

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Ofcourse he's our main player but he's a striker he's suppose to score all the goals especially as he was a lone striker. Are you lot seriously suggesting if we didn't have suarez we wouldn't of replaced him? Or got someone close. All I'm saying Is its ridiculous to suggest Liverpool are the only one with a main player that scores and does the most

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To jimmy
you don't agree, and say BR will find some gem, some one like borini, god help us, if I was suarez and read your opinion of him I would go, its fans like you who want to get rid of world class players to bring in the borini's of this world, have you watched suarez this season, he could have won the golden boot if not banned, I bet your one of the fans who says he is not a goal scorer, well if he is not a goal scorer what do you call all the rest who was behind him in the goal scoring charts, and he would have won the golden boot if he took the pens this season, the man want to play his heart out for us and you give a post like that

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07 May 2013 23:32:52
Are Liverpool interested in any german players? {Ed002's Note - Not that I can think of right now.}

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Good

Bob Bobbinson

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07 May 2013 23:06:51
So Fergie could be about to retire at the end of the season, then again maybe they're just rumours. However if it's true I wish him good luck in the future. No denying he was one of the greatest managers of all time, even if he is a United manager! As much as many on here may not like him, you would only be fooling yourselves to disagree with the fact that he has had an illustrious managerial career. Good luck in retirement Fergie (if of course you are), it will be interesting to see how United do without you. Can you shed any light on this Ed?
Cheers,
LS7. {Ed002's Note - The plan was for himto leave next summer.}

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That's what I was thinking, guess we'll just have to wait and see how he responds to the rumours at the weekend!
LS7.

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So he is going then ed? {Ed002's Note - At some point.}

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08 May 2013 02:07:06
Wot would be perfect send off is if he announces his retirement and then we win the league next season, that would surely put wind up his kilt! Lol, I think then old fergie would then have to retract his own words and say, just 1 mote year! He's a stubborn old goat!

Jimmy

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07 May 2013 22:56:42
Does anyone know anything about this Alex Ferguson rumour? Totally out of the blue this and obviously massive news, if this is true it will change the face of English football and NOT for the benefit of Man U.

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07 May 2013 22:51:41
Eds not Liverpool related but I was just wondering, there's a lot of talk going around that Fergie could be stepping down and yesterday the odds for Moyes to become the next manager shot down.
Would you know anything about that?
Thanks
Jlk {Ed002's Note - Try the Manchester United page.}

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07 May 2013 22:51:06
Swansea want £10million for Williams. Turning 29 at the start of the season I hope we stay well away from that. I was hoping for Dede but it seems like we have no chance.
Eds has there been any Liverpool interest for the German Benedikt Hoewedes of Schalke?
One of the best young defenders around in my opinion and ticks all the boxes. Young, good with the ball ect.
DBol {Ed002's Note - Nope and he won't be moving.}

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Totally agree DBol. Avoid Williams like the plague.

He certainly has a good agent though.

Average (and 29).

BJH YNWA

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07 May 2013 22:46:38
So the great ferguson to retire (finally) could this mean our days are coming once again? you heard it here first guys. next year will actually be our year.

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No they'll get Mourinho now

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No they'll get moyes

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Rafa?

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08 May 2013 10:47:04
Moyes!? MOYES? haha

But if it happened I would be the happiest RED on the planet! that's both our worst rivals with one stone!

Martinez takes over at everton and I honestly can't understand why, He may be a ok manager but Everton does not have the squad at all to play the way he wants! I wonder if Martinez would get 10 seasons to get it right?

And MOYES at united, hmm. afraid he would get the sack half way through the season!

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07 May 2013 22:15:58
Taggart could be about though hand in his badge

Old Red Nose to be replaced by a Blue Nose

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Them nance are going to be lovin that lovely flowing longball game

Bob bobbinson

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Sorry that should have said mancs

Bob bobbinson

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07 May 2013 21:56:17
Tough tackling midfielder? James McCarthy! He could be the missing link in our midfield! He protects the back four well, can see a pass and wears his heart on his sleve. Young, clever, tough tackling and to top it all of, he's Irish! Watch this lad a lot playing for Ireland and he is already a crucial player in the Ireland squad. Any chance we will try sign him this summer? Also Ed do you think if Wigan go down we could get him on the cheap?
Cheers,
LS7. {Ed002's Note - No idea, sorry.}

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Not good enough

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Cheers anyway Ed. To the first reply how is he not good enough? Because he plays for Wigan? Were you one of those who said Victor Moses would not be good enough because he played for Wigan? McCarthy has shown maturity way beyond his years and he is one of the first names on the team sheet for Ireland. He wouldn't play for Ireland and be linked with top teams if he was not good enough. The 15m price tag for him I see being thrown around is too much, but if we could get him for less than 10m I say go for him because he is a proper defensive midfielder. Hopefully we can sign him up on the cheap.
Cheers,
LS7.

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Not a tough tackler Henderson and Allen are pretty much the same

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McCarthy is a better player then both Henderson and Allen. He needs to join a top team to push on, he needs better players around him to continue learning/improving, and I hope it is Liverpool because he is going to be a top player for someone.

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Most good players don't go from big clubs to other big clubs. Javier Hernandez is a prime example. He was a player nobody had heard of til he moved to United. He had done all he could at Guadajara and needed a big move to fulfill his potential. McCarthy is another one of these players and was one of the most sought after youngsters in Europe before he moved to Wigan. He needs the guidance of players like Gerrard to improve his game and he could be a big player once he gets a big move.
Cheers,
LS7.

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Mccarthy is not better than hendo your having a laugh just another biggish fish in a small pond, hendo one of our best players atm after sua gerrard and coutinho

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Mccarthy is a good player but I think we need other positions filled first and with limited budget we might not stretch to get him but he is without doubt a good prospect for any top team

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Caution, for every great player that comes from a smaller team there are just as many if not more flops. How quickly everyone forgets that Adam was tearing up the PL for blackpool and what did he do once he got to LFC? Nothing. Look at Sinclair at Man City or A. Young/Downing from Villa, Podolski (twice, first at Bayern and now Arsenal). i'd say more often than not a player dominating for a smaller club fails at a bigger one.

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08 May 2013 07:09:32
Watched him a lot with wigan. and let's be honest. he looks a clean neat player.
but he plays for a side. whose other 10 players are as awful you get.
so can't predict hows he going to perform in a higher side.

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Mc carths passing is far better than hendersons. tidier in small areas. henderson has done ok lately, shocking against thre top sides
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McCarthy is no better than Henderson. If he was he would have already been playing for a better side. He has not improved a lot in the last 3 years and still remains a potential.

And for all the people slating Henderson, think about it, what would McCarthy have done better in this side?

The real AG

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McCarthy had his chance went to wigan instead end of

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08 May 2013 11:16:57
Not good enough at all!
Better than henderson?! The clueless rubbish continues!

Hendo is the same age! And has been playing out of positition all season, left wing, right back, attacking mid. Right mid. And looked really good there! He is even better in his original central position which made us pay 16 m for him!

There is not 1 thing that mccarthy has henderson doesn't have or does much much better!
He is faster than mccarthy,
He works tripple as much
Has much much better passing
Has a much better shot
Has improved a lot since last season while mccarthy hasent improved at all by all accounts he had a much better season last year!

Even joe allen fully fit and in form is double the player mccarthy is! Oh yeah I forgot 99% of Liverpool "fans" suffer insomnia of how good allen was at the start of the season! But ofcourse you are a rubbish player when you play with an injury for 5 months or are injured for most parts of the season (borini) and had No time whatsoever to settle or find form but still get slated by the most clueluess fickle unsupportive "supporters" in the world! I feel more sad for allen & borini than for Liverpool, just because I know they will come real good for us! Yet they have got so much UNDESERVED abuse and ridicule when they are so young on top of it all!
If it was me, my self respect wouldn't allow me to play for 5 months with an injury for fans who slate me, my family etc. I have massive respect for Borinis and Allens characters!

James Mccarthy is no different from allen or borini! Just a new target for fickle clueless boobs to have a go at and have a go at the owners and BR for buying them and global warming! that's what's missing! But some of the posts are not actually far off that having a go at everybody for nothing! No reasoning or facts what so ever in the rubbish they spout!
Mccarthy better than henderson and allen! Wow, the most shocking clueletvess ever!

Mr. X

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McCarthy is not good enough. Obviously.

I am Irish also - and he is not a 'crucial player' in the Ireland squad. He is barely even a starter.

I won't compare him to Henderson - different types of player - but no.

A 'proper defensive midfielder' you say?

It's debatable whether he's even a defensive midfielder tbh.

I want us to improve, not to sign average players.

BJH YNWA

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07 May 2013 21:23:03
As a kopite from Wales I would like to wish the three Welsh teams in the Premier League good luck for next season.

Taffy.

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Clever referring to spurs (Bale) as a welsh team. I hope.
derryred

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07 May 2013 20:12:49
hi eds, I think Liverpool owners are not happy with our current squad. singing flops like carrol, downing, shahin, allen, hendo, borini have made the sense that they must sign the hungry players. coutinho and sturidge are the latest example. next summer liverpoll will not spend huge money for the single players. reina is a good keeper but our management can not risk. it is true that reina cost many points for us and made horrible mistakes. 10m for him is not bad. I think this year proper offer for the players like selvey, carrol, assadi, coates, jonson, downing, allen, borini will be accepted. even 12 to 14m for agger can be accepted. the next transfer window there will be huge out goings and incomings. eriksen, mignolet, richards, alderweild will be the 100% sure singing. around 50m will be needed. 10m from reina alreay in the pocket. I think selvey, carrol, spearing, skrtel, coates, wilson, assadi will give us around 40m. 40m from the unwanted players and simply fsg use it to recover the starting 11. just simple. yesil is better than carol, so just sell carrol. hendo in good from, gerrad still good, suso improving, texxeria just knocking to main squad, so sell selvey. anzi and zenit are eger to sign skrtel, so sell him. coates can be good for any midtable italian team and they are eger to sign, so sell him. blackburn and newcastle want spearing, just take the advantage and get 4m for him. assadi wiil be good in holand and ajax, twente etc very eger to sign him. so very clear condition for the next season, cut up the lenght of the squad but make strong our staring 11. bye.

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Deluded up top

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That's exactly what I did in fifa! Lol

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Think you will find Danny Wilson's contract is up and therefore he will lave for nothing.

ChrisE

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. let's not forget if you sell pepe you'll need to get someone else to stand between the sticks - which will cost!

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07 May 2013 19:39:41
With all this speculation and questions to the eds. who do you think we will sign. At this moment there are many irons in the fire and lots of hurdles to pass before a player or players will sign. I am sure BR and his staff have their priorities and ideal signings but as we found out last season last minuite intervention from other teams spurs and saints can sway players or agents minds. We were all surprised by Jan s signings and I believe we are going in the right direction, give BR time, he will get there. kls

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07 May 2013 19:33:48
What's with all our players and shoulder injuries is it really that common or some weird coincidence?

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Stop posting over and over

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There giving us the cold shoulder

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That was me the last time I didn't repost it man but glad to see all the smart answers I got someone else taught the same
And to be honest it has to be the training or else just bad luck borini was bad luck the other two both midfield players could be a certain drill or weights it will get sorted I'm sure

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Its the ****ing competitions.

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07 May 2013 19:27:18
Hi Eds. Thanks for all your great work as always.

Just wondering. when a club is considering to make an inquiry about a player. do that club's players usually know about this? i. e. would Liverpool players be aware of what players the club is interested in?

Thanks. Joe. {Ed002's Note - If the enquiry is through his agent then yes. If it is through the club, then, in most cases, yes.}

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Thanks!

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{Ed002's Note - If the enquiry is through his agent then yes. If it is through the club, then, in most cases, yes. }
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Are you sure Ed002, or did you not understand the question? my understanding the OP asked if Liverpool were interested in Alhabsi for example, would the rest of the Liverpool squad know about this interest? I am surprised you said yes, because I know in most cases the answer is No; and the club would most of the time prefer to keep the interest a secret for as long as possible, telling a squad of 20 or so players is a sure way to get it into twitter before the night is out.

Roy {Ed002's Note - You are right, sorry, I misread the question. Certainly they would not announce it to the squad but players and agents do discuss such matters.}

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Eds didn't Rodgers ask the players what they thought of sturridge? {Ed002's Note - He might have asked those who knew him.}

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07 May 2013 19:25:17
Hi Eds, just wondering what the latest info is on the upgrade to Anfield? Any recent progress?

cheers

Kobi {Ed002's Note - No,}

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The interior of the Lower Centenery has recently been given a new coat of paint.

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I've heard the interior decorators have decided on the colour scheme and they will be going with red

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07 May 2013 17:40:08
Hi Eds,
I'd like to ask you if you know what is the latest update for M. Kelly. When will he be available and fit again? Does the club has any estimate of his return date? Also what is the latest with Yesil? Is he still injured? Do you think BR will give him a chance in the 1st team next season? Is he making progress in reserves? {Ed002's Note - Kelly is fit but won't be risked. Yesil remains injured.}

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07 May 2013 17:10:12
Good day ed. was just wondering if any teams have an intrest or are watching Aras Ozbiliz?

Cheers

Mr. X {Ed002's Note - Not that I know of.}

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07 May 2013 19:13:27
Ok, thanks. was just thinking about possible downing replacments and remembered him from a couple of years back at ajax with Suarez! Heck of a left foot! Do you know if armenian players require work permits ed? Many european countries seem to be outside eu when signing for english clubs? like serbia and bosnia. Would appreciate if you told me why that is.

Mr. X {Ed002's Note - If he is Armeian he requires a work permit.}

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07 May 2013 12:40:35

Can an Ed or someone with more knowledge on this issue have a read through the Guardian article and provide their insight on it? If its true then its absolutely horrendous that LFC are using such tactics in the ground expansion strategy.
Its not enough to make me stop loving LFC but I would like to start a petition or something to help neighbours in the area.
Buying houses are expensive, but when compared to Gerrards yearly wage, i'd think you could purchase atleast 20 houses with it.
RedSox69

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If you search around there are plenty of statements regarding this from people who have lived there and have moved on, saying that it is not the clubs fault the area is how it is, there is also an article in the daily mail I believe with statements from the local council which says that there is a whole regeneration programme going on in the area and that Liverpool fc have paid over the odds on some of the properties that they have bought.

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I moved out of Anfield about 9 years ago, and LFC had nothing to do with it, it was going into decline long before LFC decided to upgrade the ground, if it wasn't for LFC the place would have been worse a lot sooner, I was brought up in Kirkdale and that is still in a terrible state of neglect, no investment is the cause, along with high unemployment and drug dealing etc. I know I saw it happening!

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07 May 2013 16:13:40
Seriously! Not one person took a screenshot of Coutinho in the third kit. If so upload that to the sightings page. It was apparently edited out of the original video.

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I've seen a screenshot, go google images and type in coutinho third kit - first three images all have it

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I've just looked at it black body white neck purple/blue arms and silver logos. I would think that it the 3rd kit

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I just uploaded a pic of the 3rd kit on sightings

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07 May 2013 12:57:07
In reply to a recent post by Lil Red, I disagreed with you on Johnson being slow etc. However you raised a brilliant point that's been playing on my mind for some time now. Johnson needs a defensive winger ahead of him to cover when he goes forward. This would be no problem at all if Johnson added the amount of goals and assits as a player like Alves for example. However, this season Jhonson has 1 goal, and I believe 3 assists (one of which should barely be counted, as he just tapped it to Gerrard who then smashed in a 30 yarder against Norwich; Johnson just created an average shooting opportunity). One thing I do think we'd miss from Johnson, is his ability to carry the ball forward. Wisdom and Flanagan don't offer that. Kelly on the other hand does, but playing right back is too much for him and is causing him injuries he could avoid with less running.
My point comes back to this though, Downing is effectively shackled from playing as a winger, becasue he must waste half his energy defending. Johnson doesn't have any positional sense. You can even see from set pieces and standard balls into our penalty area, he is lost. He has no clue how to mark a man or a zone. He is average with the ball at his feet, however he is proabably the joint top 'athlete' in our squad (with Enrique). However he is nearly 30 and would likely bring in £10m or more. If we could sign a reliable right back who can carry a ball forward (preferably younger than Johnson), but knows their job in the team, for under that fee, I'd say sell up. Ryan McLaughlin will be brilliant one day and should be in the squad next year. I don't know anybody we could get to replace him, nor do I wish to speculate. Have we had any interest in right backs Eds? I personally think we will continue with Johnson for one more season as he isn't a bad player, he just shackles the forward in front of him. But in the long run, a better defender should be sought after so a guy like Sterling or Ibe can play as the right forward, and be able to focus on being creative.

On another note, worst Derby i've seen in years! The game just seemed to reek of "how many more games till the summer". No bite, no grit, and no will to win. That mentality needs to change in future. Ultimately it will cost us nothing as we are cemented in 7th place anyway, but pride and entertainment is important to us fans.

look forward to any reply from Eds and other followers.

YNWA! (Adam) {Ed001's Note - like I said earlier, there was a focus on scouting right backs early in the season, but nothing came of it in January and we have shown no clear interest in any during the second half (unless Alderweireld is seen as a right back by us) of the season. I would think that suggests that Rodgers is happy with Johnson, with Wisdom and Kelly as cover, for now. Either that or he just didn't have the funds in January but has made a decision and is just waiting on the window to open. But that seems unlikely to me.}

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07 May 2013 15:36:22
It is suspicious that Ed. After Wisdom had some blinding games whilst Johnson was out. As well as that, I recall reading an interview of Rodgers in which he described Wisdom as being perfect for the right back role.

Perhaps Rodgers decided then that Wisdom could be first choice next year? Do you think that could be a possibility? I think Kelly will play or cover centre back next year.

Always appreciate your replies Ed001 :)

YNWA! (Adam)

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Who in their right mind would buy Johnson for £10m or more?

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Johnson wasnt out enrique was we had wisdom giving us more height on set pieces and arguably johnsons best position also think enrique give us more width and pace out on the left flank when he came back this would also allow coutinho to always take up the number 10 role we have wasted a lot of chances to use this tactic this season mostly so in the tight and 0. 0 games west ham and reading come to mind recently

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08 May 2013 01:33:02
I reckon brendan will give Wisdom and shelvey a game against fulham on sunday!

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Glen Johnson is one of the best players in our team, easy.
If u can't see that you are mental.
He has things that he isn't good at, like every player has, but he is contributing so much both offensive and defensive always moving up and down almost as good on the left as on the right.
He is applying pressure on opponent team always and has maybe best work rate in squad.
Heis the best rb and nr2 lb after enrique, and should ofc not be sold.

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07 May 2013 12:41:28
hai ed great work keep up.

I was scrolling down and was reading some execptional post regardign Glenn Johnson.
Cant believe people still think he is class.
he is been with Liverpool from past 5 years. add another 2 with portsmouth.
how much mor time does he needs to improve himself. he is awful in defending.
even after 6 years of professional football. he is commiting some horrible vrime in defending.
He owes his life to Liverpool for saving his career and cementing a regular in england side.
he would not make to bench with any national team.

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07 May 2013 11:58:40
Christian Eriksen is quickly becoming the red herring of the window. it all started wayyy back in 2010 when David Silva was supposedly signing and since then there has been more or less one red herring each window with the others being Sergio Augero, Kesikue Honda, Arda Turan, Juan Mata, and Gaston Ramirez. Who will be next. Eduardo Salvio?!

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Eriksen would be luxury signing imo. Why pay top dollar for a CAM when we have the likes of hendo and suso in the squad? Plus i'm pretty sure we r not his first choice destination. A CB, LB, CDM and a right sided forward is what we need this summer.

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Rodgers did suggest a proper No 10 would be bought in the summer.

Coutinho is very good in that postion when the game is open but when the bus is parked the two footed Eriksen would perhaps be the better player.

Eriksen is far more experienced / effective in the No. 10 role than both Suso and Henderson currently are. He is the type of player that turns the draw at Everton in to a win.

I think Rodgers will try to buy him, a wide forward like Vela (not him but similar!), 1x CB, 1x CDM and Tom Ince.

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The best red herring was Aguero. He was meant to be coming for 3 seasons in a row.
Eriksen rumour is not firm enough to be a proper red herring.

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The Gaston Ramirez rumour from last season was the best imo.

He must have signed for us like 35 times and at least 2/3 times a day, everyday until he went to Southampton haha

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Sorry but why would Erikson want to move to us??

Get realistic, we can't attract these types of players or afford them.

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07 May 2013 11:53:24
What the hell has happened to the u21 and youth teams since ingelthorpe has arrived

Results have been poor and more worryingly the style of football has taken a giant step backwards

Even with players such as shelvey / suso/ wisdom/ flannigan playing we are not playing nowhere near the standard before his arrival

Leam Red

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07 May 2013 12:36:15
What a completly silly post! What happened? They are playing some very good stuff! I watch all the U21 games and they dominate most teams!
Ngoo, Robinson, Smith, Pelosi, Yesil, are all out on loan or have long term injury!
Suso, Sterling, Wisdom, Coady, Shelvy, all of them rarely play U21 anymore and have played 2 or 3 games combined of the U21 last 8 games! The U21 is mainly players from the U18 now stepping up with lloyd jones, jack dunn, kristoffer perterson, ryan mclaughlin, jordan ibe stepping up 3 years above their age group and still have a chance of winning the U21 league!
Clueless is an understatment! Iam sorry but you are trying to critisize 17 and 18 year olds! Get real or get a life!

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07 May 2013 13:21:00
i agree lred the 1 thing that I was hoping dosent look good that we were going to get a good 3 r 4 players coming through maybe 2014-15 season. ibe looks like a good enough player coming through nicely there may be others. I read about messi and that batch of youngsters getting stuffed regularly I think it was rodolfo said this so I wouldn't think we should get too involved with results but hope the youngsters gain the experience that comes with making mistakes. Tommy Irish Red

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Their not focused on results just getting the players to fit into the system, so players like sterling wisdom shelve and suso can step up to the first team with ease, its more about transition than being just a successful youth team.

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The style has actually been alright and that's with key players such as brad smith, McLaughlin, ngoo, sterling, Pacheco, suso, wisdom and the American lad either being promoted, injured or out on loan.
We still qualified for the playoffs and have been scoring many goals.

Lil Red

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Despite the nameless rant I still stick by my original point, the u21 and youth teams played better football this season before ingelthorpe arrived

Not sure if it just down to a period of adjustment for the lads to a new coach or his new methods

Leam Red

Ps along with Ibe, I really hope Adorjan makes the break through

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Inglethorp is an excellent coach I think. He is highly regarded by many which is why we poached him from Tottenham U-18. I also believe part of the reason we brought him in was becasue Rodolfo had reached a stage in hid career with us where he wanted a 'raise'. He was thus moved up to Technical Director of the U-21 and Academy I think or we would have risked losing him like Pep Segura.

Cooper, the U-18 coach, however I think have not been an improvement on Mike Marsh nor have I seen anything in the way the U-18's play to suggest he is particularly good at his job.

Maybe Ed001, who has in-depth knowledge on these would be able to comment?

The real AG

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Judge the U21s by the number of players that make the first team and not on results.

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07 May 2013 11:29:10
we all have opinions I have mine and maybe I am wrong. I believe that br will bring in 4 players this summer and get into the top 4 next season. I believe in time he wants to replace downing/enrique/and even hendersen he needs them but they are not in his future plans. at the start he benched enrique had no option to play him again, same goes for downing and hendersen. skrtl during the season shown him that he cannot be the defender br likes. br knows what budget he has this summer, I think he will try to get eriksen in and a defensive minded midfielder. shelvey will proberly go out on loan but I think br rates him more than hendersen. br wanted carra to continue 1 more year to be the back up for the 1 cb he wants to bring in because he is not sure kelly/wisdom are ready yet. the reason he wanted carra to play on 1 more year is that he would be able to spend some money on another position in the team. I think next year we be far better than this year and the season after we be back among the best in the league. skrtl/quates/assaidi will be sold shelvey/suso will go out on loan 1/2 cb will be bought 1 midfielder like eriksen. 1 winger. downing/hendersen will be squad players next season, and the following season they will be sold. enrique will still be here but in the future a new left back will come through from the I have fate in what br is trying to do but he needs this summer to change a few players and get into the top 4 and next summer he will add and push on. malta

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07 May 2013 12:13:00
Where did you pull that crystal ball from mate?

This is just foolish. Say Henderson scores 20 goals next season, and gets player of the year award. would we still sell him? In football, you cannot predict what will happen the next day, let alone the next 2 years. Go and lay down for a little bit boss.

YNWA! (Adam)

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07 May 2013 12:31:56
Henderson and dwoning is in their 3rd year mate.
leave 20 an attacking mid would score atleast 10 each seaosn.

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07 May 2013 13:26:47
i really think we need spurs to lose out on top 4. The reason I say this I believe if they do get it that will be 5 teams with more capability than us in spending and attracting top players, if they don't they may be on a level playing field with us if not lower the other 4 will have more money than us no matter what for now. Tommy Irish Red

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I have no crystal ball, the way br wants to have the team play hendersen has not got the talent he needs in midfield. skrtl is a good defender but br wants a defender that can defend and see a pass. downing same story a good player but a left winger in br system has to keep the left defender in the back that's how good the left winger has to be. downing has been defending more than attacking since arrived. the system br wants too play is not the barca system its the ajax system from the past. winger dominate the game stop the opposition wingbacks to go for forward then press in midfield to win the ball back and trough short passes get the ball towards the winger and open up their defence. that's why he needs technical players in midfield. in the system that br wants skrtl position will have the ball all the time. that's why I think br will spend on a cb and midfielder and winger in summer. a out and out stiker is not that important in his system. just look at the ajax team 94/95/96 blind/de boer in the back making play overmars/finidi on the wings and all midfielders technical de boer davids seedorf rykaard. very hard to defend. there is a reason br wants eriksen he will be another player that will make us closer to be a great team again

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Henderson and Downing are on their 2nd full season with LFC, not third and both have improved their play from last year. However, I feel Downing is still poor.

The real AG

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Agree with AG. My view as stated before is that Jordan Henderson will become a very good footballer.

Phooey.

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07 May 2013 11:28:59
I was just wondering if anyone would be willing to do a sort of round up of how Liverpool has done away from the first season this year? Between the reserves, u21, development (which I seem to understand is somehow different from the u21s), u18 etc. I think we're doing quite well in a cup and ok in a league or something, but very confused. Could anyone oblige? I watch every match I can but generally have no idea what tournament I'm watching

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07 May 2013 12:07:21
The U18s came far in the FA youth cup

The U19s which is a team mixed from the U18s and a couple of U21 players played in the nextgen series (U19 Champions league) they got knocked out in the quarter finals, but I imagine if they had suso, sterling, wisdom, coady who could all play in that competition they would have come further

The U21s finished 3rd in the U-21 premierleague behind spurs and united! But the 2nd and 3rd play a semi final where the winner meets spurs to determine the champions of the league! Hope that, helps mate :)

Mr. X

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Nice one Mr X, thanks very much

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A few under 19's teams release players for loan spells lfc did it, spurs did it (as well as the under 21's), soton did it (also as well as the under 21's), villa & chelsea kept most of theirs

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You are dreaming if you think Chelsea had an almost full strength team for the Next Gen series (Kane, Chabolah, Piazon, Saville, Hazard, Omeruo). I got no problem with you saying you have a great academy/youth setup, you do, but don't be so naive to think other teams are at full strength and yours isn't. You simply were outplayed and outclassed by better teams. A lot like in the FA Youth Cup. Something Chelsea has the chance of winning 3 times in 4 years. Give credit where it's due or people will just continue not to take you seriously.

Melbourne CFC

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The fact that you just described Hazard as a player that could have been in your NextGen team simply because his age means it would technically be possible is ridiculous. A £35m player does not go anywhere near the youth team levels

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Well we finished behind Spurs and United. Chelsea finished behind us. So why are you mad?

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Melbourne CFC, genuine question. is eden hazards brother any good or is he just an average bob. is he going to be anything like eden?

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Chelsea have quite a few players out on loan who are either their U-21 or U-18 level players.

On a related not, there are a number of excellent academy setups across the PL I think. Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs, Everton, Southampton, Villa, West Ham all have very good setups.

The real AG

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I think the fact that a team that is almost entirely a wholesale graduation from 2-3 years of Villa's academy looks likely to avoid relegation is a huge testimony to its ability. West Ham's academy isn't that good though

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Actually samsam, Villa have about 6 players who you could argue are first team players, who are from their academy. Of these, Agbonlahor, Albrighton, Bannan, Clark, Baker have been in their squad for sometime. All the others, they bought. They may be young but have been bought.

The real AG

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Samsam, I'm not even going to bother with your initial response. I'm sure you feel silly enough.

Noname, he is an excellent young player. Before we signed him, I'd read he could be better then Eden. His attitude at the same age certainly is an upgrade on his brother, but I don't quitethink he will reach Edens level, although he could becoming a world class player in his own right. He has Edens ability to glide past players, and plays with the same arrogance on the ball. It's hard to judge his season, as he is playing in a pretty poor Belgium league, but he has definitely been a stand out for the league. Don't have his stats but he has scored a few (some corkers as well) and has led his team in assists. He is their creative outlet, although it took him a little while to settle. I think he could certainly make it at Chelsea, and is capable of a much more aggressive loan next year.

Melbourne CFC

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07 May 2013 11:04:00
People don't seem to realise we have a tiny squad, wanting to sell the likes of downing, no! He should be a bench player with a top player in the first 11. Suso, sterling & wisdom should never of played half the games they have this season not for us anyway, in an ideal world they would of been on loan in the championship but we were in the dire situation where they actually needed to play! Look at the teams above us Chelsea have ake who's played 2 or 3x aged 18, arsenal have ox who's played around 15 mostly from the bench, Manchester United have had Powell play once or twice but mostly these players don't get in the squad. Loans are the way forward for the kids.

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Not in all cases are they the way forward if you loan someone and they learn nothing or don't develop the attributes needed as per say Dani pachecco but but I agree some cases its the way forward Rogers knows who to keep out and loan out he is grate at developing youngsters

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07 May 2013 11:00:11
Just wanted to make a point of it that Michah Richards was spotted at the derby on the weekend.

In talks with Liverpool maybe?

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As has already been said today, he's friends with Sturridge and was there to watch a big start for him

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07 May 2013 10:52:22
I think the club is approaching this transfer market in 2 ways.
1. if suarez is sold (in the case, we will be one of the busiest clubs in the transfers)
2. if suarez stays (we will still offload and add 4 or 5 players)

In the case of the 2nd scenario, my assumption stays;
Caroll, Shelvy, Coates, Carragher, pacheco, Spearing and borini (?) leaving for a sum of 25 -30 mill (not including Borini)

Then we will buy Beñat, Iturra, Menez (Eriksen), Alderweireld, Kevin Gameiro - for around 40 - 45 mill

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I don't think so? Maybe alderwiereld now that another team have lost interest

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07 May 2013 09:32:58
Christian Tello is a player we were interested in. Would be a quality addition to squad. Warming the bench at Barca. Have personally seen this kid play. and he can play, score & assist. Even a loan move would be great.
Any chance?

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07 May 2013 00:22:43
I've seen a few people criticising Sturridge already! Are you for real? He's been here for 2 months, scored 8 goals and 5 assists! 5 assists ain't half bad for a player who is branded to be a 'ball-hog'
I really like Sturridge, you can see that he is a good player who can score goals, he just needed to be given a chance! Him and Suarez upfront have been outstanding! He is proving to be the answer to our striking problems, however I do feel to compete for top 4 we need another DECENT. Not world class. DECENT striker who is capable of coming off the bench and scoring a valuable goal!

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07 May 2013 10:50:24
did u said the same 2 years back when downing was bought in?
i am not saying sturridge is bad. he is a pretty decent player.
but this so called. TIME and CHANCE. has ruined our club.
we are not here to give 1-2 seaosns to players to settle in.

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07 May 2013 11:00:17
Completly agree mate! But its others clubs trolls or people on a weeks vacation from the nut house who have a go at him! Sturridge has been great since joining! Mention 1 player who doesn't have a bad game once in

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07 May 2013 12:23:19
Sturridge decent? Lol give your head a wobble mate!

Sturridge was brilliant againt Manchester United, He was even better against Manchester City, he was World Class in the 45 minutes against chelsea! He was brilliant against Newcastle, Swansea, Norwich!
Its utter rubbish to read the real sturridge is out based on 1 bad game when he has been brilliant in 10 others! One of the most ignorant comments and shows that those writing it don't understand the game for 1 sek! He has world-class potential, and many of his performances for us prove that already! I thought he was a risk and we overpaid but since he joined he changed my mind 360 degrees no doubt! 8 goals 5 assists is a wonderful return!
Downing was never world class, never had world class potential and sadly not even close to being a good enough starter! was 26 when we bought him for 20 million on 80k a week wages. Sturridge is 23 and is on 55 k a week!

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"Downing was never world class, never had world class potential and sadly not even close to being a good enough starter! was 26 when we bought him for 20 million on 80k a week wages. Sturridge is 23 and is on 55 k a week!"

What rubbish! Downing had a very good season with Villa before he joined us. It was the pressure of playing for a big club that got to him.
He is definitely not on 80k a week. More like 60k as is sturridge.

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For me, I don't know if Sturridge will be world class or not, but I do think he's done pretty well in his first few games for us. I also think people tend to forget he is still rather young (only a few months older than Henderson) and I imagine he'll only get better the next few seasons.

I see encouraging signs in that we have a fair few number of young players- Henderson and Sturridge at 23, Allen and Borini at 22, Countinho at 20, etc. who are all in the 1st team. Given a couple of seasons together, things could be very interesting I think.

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Indian Buzzer, you think the pressure got to Downing? I think that's hardly an excuse for a then 27 year old, England international, who as you suggest was at the form of his life when he moved to LFC.

The real AG

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