Liverpool Banter Archive July 07 2013

 

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07 Jul 2013 23:08:49
any chance we can stop repeating the same old questions tge old days Liverpool were known as as the the knowledable fans, know any any player linked with us is a world beater by most fans that have never them play, but if the eds, could help us out with any possible targets would be appreciated thanks lamby
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same old questions

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07 Jul 2013 22:51:12
Ajax are lining up Lerin Duarte from Heracles Almelo as Eriksen's replacement.

Liverpool currently has no interest in Eriksen as he doesn't have the characteristics they desire, once Mkhitaryan signs for Dortmund that may change though.

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Would agree with that LFC may have no interest in Eriksen as I would not see how he will improve the team given that we have Coutinho, Suso and Alberto who play in his role. To me he is just an excellent ball pusher but not penetrative enough. A more fabcy Joe Allen imo.

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Why would eriksens characteristics change if MK goes to dortumund :s

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It won't change. Ajax signing Duarte won't suddenly make LFC think Eriksen can score another 10 goals a season.

The real AG

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I still think Alonso could do a job for the club, SG could easily be pushed further forward in such a scenario, and the job he could do with the likes of Suso in the next 3 years - there's your replacement right there. Imagine what a player like Alonso could do for some of the youngsters coming through in the next 3 years?! Again, possibly a case of heart over head here, but if the price was decent then i'd have a punt.

Swallybean

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07 Jul 2013 22:47:06
Some of you fans can't be serious in wanting Alonso back, we should be finding the new Xabi Alonso and don't get me started on Torres. We never should have sold Alonso and even more never should have replaced him with AquaMan, but he's not what he once was. Can we please as fans, for once, stop living in the past and hope we bring in some decent players who are at the top of their game, and not good potential or over the hill players

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He is not what he once was? no, you are right, he is better. That is why he was viewed as the most important player in the team for real madrid and part of the double pointed pivot for Spain, alongside xavi and behind iniesta. He has been in the team of the year like 3 times. Xabi is awesome
GOD

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Got to agree with Alonso. If 4-5 million then yes but I also think we need to move forward and Alonso while still very good is not going to improve the team that much IMO

gareth

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08 Jul 2013 07:38:47
Xabi alonso wanted to go like Suarez, and he went, the difference, suarez opened his mouth, and xabi waited for the call.
we have spend almost 60 mill to replace him yet, we havent, alonso is gem of a player, who is in the likes of prilo, he can easily dictate the game.
If he can get us 3 more good years, I can see us winnng the title
We should have bought him last summer in place of Allen and waited for 3 seasons to find the new Alonso.

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I would love Alonso back, but now, we have other priorities that need addressing.

The real AG

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07 Jul 2013 22:42:49
Hi I am a bit worried, having read a few editors comments about who may leave the club, Reina, Agger or skrytl, Suarez, with carragher retiring if this happens our first team will be decimated surely we can keep some of the above. These players will be very difficult to
get even equal quality even considering mingolet's arrival

Andy The Red

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You mean the first team that has finished 7th or below for what, 4 or 5 seasons now? The team that has fallen whenever a hurdle of expectation pops up?

I thank them for their service and I'll still support them if they stay, but change is good for us right now.

SpudRed

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I agree, if that lot go then Rodgers is putting his head on the chopping block.

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07 Jul 2013 22:38:57
Christian Eriksen and Toby Alderwerield. Pull off the double swoop for approximately the same money mkhitaryan would have cost and we will be nearly sorted. Rodgers is excellent with young players and while mkhitaryan may be ready now, Eriksen is not far behind and may have a higher ceiling in terms of potential. For those of you who have not seen alderwerield play much, he is fantastic on the ball, very strong, good positioning, and can score goals as a defender. Both of these players are versatile and would fit perfectly into our system. Not to mention Agger and Eriksen are international teammates and both star for their country, and Alderwerield and Mingolet play together for the Belgian team. If somehow we brought both of these players in, I would be absolutely thrilled . bojan has just signed for Ajax making a move for Eriksen extremely possible, and Alderwerield has made it very clear he is ready to move on and Liverpool would tick all of boxes. I know transfers can be complicated but sometimes there are moves that just make perfect sense and it boggles me why we don't make them happen.

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100% agree
HM looks not an option now so forget him
Forget Illoris (let Chelski have him)
Go get Eriksen and Alderwerield
HM and Pappa the Greek may have been option 1, but if this is option 2, I think the vast majority of Reds will be happy

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I agree on both these players.

Now, I never ever set expectations for who we will or won't sign as there are too many variables to contend with. Agents, ownership, player desire, Ambition, mentality, finances, wages, fees, and our own coaches evaluation of his needs. However, signing these two players, for me, would be a huge step forward in building the Team that will challenge for the title over the next 2 to 3 years and continue building the foundation that players like Rossiter, Ojo, McLaughlin, Ibe, Yesil and Sinclair can come join Sterling, Suso, Sturridge, Mignolet and Allen.

SpudRed

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It's a good point, both could be persuaded as they would fellow countrymen in the squad.

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07 Jul 2013 21:58:36
Anyone wondering whether Suarez is fonna finally end up at Madrid? Just want it done and dusted now so we can start building our team.

Wondering what people would prefer in the deal of it or when it goes ahead. For example 45 million straight cash or players involved. Madrid have a huge number of players who could possibly be used in the deal.

Admittadley they would need to be interested but assuming they are who would you pick (within reason).

Reports tonight suggest Jesse Rodriguez could be available this window and has a contract until only 2014 with Madrid. Would definitely be a player I'd ask about if the deal goes ahead.

Others who could leave would be Alonso, Coentroa, Rodriguez, Callejon.

For me I'd accept Rodriguez and Coentroa plus 15-20 million. I'd say Madrid value Coentrao at 15-20 million and Rodriguez is roughly worth 5-7 million due to contract.

For me that would be a good deal all round all parties win, Suarez gets his move, Madrid get their man for a lesser cash fee and offload two players.

On th other hand we get rid of a good player but also a nightmare at times, and gain a quality left back along with a quality winger who's still very young.

By losing our star striker we still gain a quality left back ready to go straight into the squad, and a quality young winger who can be an impact player intitally (very much in way Assiaid was meant to be).

With Assiaidi it is known that Feyenoord hold an interest in the player, plus we were very interested in De Vrij but the fee was too high. wouldn't be worth attempting a deal of Assiadi and say 15 million?

Again we gain a quality centre half who would go straight into the team and complement Agger. This could all be paid for through the remaining funds from Suarez transfer.

I still think the Mkhitaryan deal could still happen as I don't see anything different from the other day. Dortmund are basically were we are and anything could still happen.

With the sales of Downing, Jones, Spearing, Skrtle, Pacheco and co, I would like us to bring in Eriksen (12-15 million) and like the look of the Jorginho kid from Verona.

With these incomings we'd have such a stronger squad capable of scoring from all angles.

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If we sell suarez before getting replacements we will face inflated prices

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He will go at the very very end of August when his ban is nearly over.

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08 Jul 2013 07:40:44
Y on earth would conetrao move to Liverpool, The lad want CL, so as most top players, he has been playing with real week in and week out, he would go to chelsea

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07 Jul 2013 22:09:25
Not really a rumour just a note of caution just finished reading Brian reades epic swindle book which is a must read for every red. When we moan about not signing certain players and moaning to the eds who do a fantastic job we should all realise and remember how close we where to falling off the edge of the cliff. We will get back to where we belong just remember Rome wasn't built in a day. Dave 83.

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I am about half way through Dave and I wanted to post something after I had finished the first couple of chapters - it is a MUST READ.

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Was that Rome '77 or Rome'84?!

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Notts Forest and Leeds fans are saying the same thing.

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08 Jul 2013 09:25:52
when you read that book you really get a perspective on the clowns that were running the club and nobody pulling in the same direction. that's why I try not to get annoyed with the current owners because they really took on a bad state of affairs, how hag got r club I don't know moores got a few extra million out of it but imo he sold his soul to the devil.Tommy Irish Red

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07 Jul 2013 22:08:08
Anyone think we could pull off a few cheeky swap deals in the window?

Players like Suarez wanting Madrid well they have players we could take in the deal to help us. For example for me I'd like to see us try and get Fabio Coentroa and Jesse Rodriguez plus 20-25 million.

Coentroa must be available for in the region of 15-22 million and Rodriguez will be way lower due to having one year left on deal (say 5-7 million).

Also Assiadi he's wanted by Feyenoord and must be worth in region of 4-5 million. We do have an interest in Stefan De Vrij who must be valued in region of 20-25 million.
With using Assiaidi we knock the price down hopefully making them more affordable to the club.

Just a thought

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Oh god please people please think before posting!

(Eds why are you bot posting my replies - too risky or.!?! {Ed007's Note - Total gibberish.???}

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Lfc please remember the way real dealt with us ref owen

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07 Jul 2013 21:11:23
Hello I know it's a bit late but I thought the eds could confirm if true. I was reading the tv piece about matt Jarvis wanting silverware and it mentioned the Andy Carroll transfer quoting the transfer fee as £19 mil! If so that's a fantastic bit of business. That means from selling two players we've made about £25 obviously that's revenue not profit but anyway you shouldn't all be worrying about Ayre if we've made up to that much back!
Thanks, Sam {Ed001's Note - not a clue, not really sure that it matters.}

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07 Jul 2013 21:48:40
with the news of agger on his way out i, m beggining to have concearns in the direction the club is going . slowly, gradually, we seem to be loosing any depth whatsoever! without the replacement of equal and or better . but with only the Potential to Be.! . mine is a simple question. what if they reach their potentiak. wilk we progress or sell. instead of building. every year we seem to be rebuilding! WTF . ! THIS IS LIVERPOOL!

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Again - I see the sun has effected people again!

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Who let all these Trolls out?
Lots about today
They must have returned after their labotomy

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Yeah, I'm starting to get that creeping feeling as well.
Anyway, FSG it.
See what happens.
The tennis, rugby and Tour de France have been spot on this weekend.
FSG can't mess around with them at least.
The Juicer

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"The news of Agger on his way out?" What are you talking about? Monaco had some interest and apparently Barca may as well, but do you have anything concrete that he is leaving? Skrtles agent may have said Agger is leaving but usually these guys just say whatever is in the best interest of their client, and ultimately themselves.

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So, you are getting worked up over a possible departure? You also anticipate that there will be either no replacement or a lesser player to come in; this also aggravates you. Then you claim to have a simple question which is buried within a near hysterical rant. However, in your rambling you actually highlight the natural evolution of a HEALTHY football club. Yes, every year you are supposed to do some building and rebuilding! Players will come and go unless you chain them up at the training facility for fear they'll leave (please tell me your wife isn't chained up in your basement). Agger has been good to the club for years and the club have been good to him. If he has a chance to move to Monaco or Barcelona wish him well. I'll see you next week at the same time.

Canadian Fan

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Mate where have you heard Agger us on way out? Do you read the beano or something.

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No smoke without fire.

The Eds confirmed that they thought Skrtrl was off until Skrtel's agent told Zenit SP that the transfer was off because Agger was leaving.

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Dry ice is smoke without fire.

Nevada

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07 Jul 2013 20:53:46
If Madrid were to make an offer for Suarez do you think F�bio Coentr�o may be an option as a player they may offer as part of any deal? He can play anywhere down the left, two positions we need to strengthen in and I understand Madrid would be happy to let him go. Would Liverpool be attractive to Coentrao or would better teams be after him?

Really appreciate all the work you Eds do for us.

Thanks
Andy {Ed002's Note - He would be available but is valued at such a level he may not be attractive to Liverpool.}

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Yeah Liverpool

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That really makes sense get rid of the best player in the Premier for part ex with an attacking full back, which incidently a lot of supporters seem to prefer a more old fashioned type of full back that can boot it the length of the pitch; the ball and the winger that is.

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07 Jul 2013 20:41:13
Hi eds are we currently in negotiations to sign Tiago Ilori? Cheers. {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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07 Jul 2013 20:26:43
Hi eds, I read on a website Liverpool are closing in on deals to sign Aly cissoko (spelling) and jorginho, I was just curious weather you knew of any concrete interest or weather it is just another unreliable source?! Thanks {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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07 Jul 2013 20:21:29
The captain, what would I have done had I taken over from Hicks and Gillette? You would have to let me know if I own the club alone or am I part of a consortium? Am I a multi billionaire? Or am I in a consortium of multi billionaires?

Who would I have had as manager? Depends on what your answer is to my first question, but I would have targeted Hiddink, De boer, Klopp, or Laudrup!

What would I have done differently to BR to get high earners off the wage bill? Pretty much what he has done, he has done quite a decent job with that.

How would I get Liverpool back to the top? Look on my search history, I posted about keeping Suarez for one more season, you will see what else I said on that post and it will answer your question. Not on a postcard but you failed to leave your name and address with the ed's for me to send you it.

Mikey, you "escaped" Liverpool you say, well that comment sums you up lad, this is the greatest city in the world and it's all the better with people like you not in it, your true colours well and truly shown with that dig at Liverpool.

Devred, my comment about Mikey being from Birkenhead was a dig at him and him alone, as scousers and people from Birkenhead dislike each other, and mikey was displaying Birkenheadish behaviour, so next time before you post propaganda to try and recruit people from outside the city to join your little strength in numbers posting group, can I suggest you strap on a pair and have a go at me on your own without back up!

Toodle pip old beans!

Waro

p.s. Ed's if this doesn't get through could you acknowledge my post and let The captain know that I tried to answer his question {Ed002's Note - Waro, it is fine - I would have used a semi-con rather than a comma at one point but won't delete it for that (at least this time).}

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The first question was meant purely as a 'if you owned the club outright' question, I wasn't really thinking consortiums etc. as for keeping Suarez, seems a little daft to me to keep a player who doesn't want to be here, and I'm a huge fan of his to be honest, even after all the nonsense. But for me, the time has come to move on and find a replacement. I'll look through the posts as to regards the rest.

As for my address, you seem like an angry young man so I'll keep it to myself thanks, I like my face as it is. !

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Brilliant waro - don't always agree with everything you say but great post. Red nick

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My escaped comment was also Tongue in cheek. A real scouser has a famous sense of humour you clearly lack, among other things.

Onto another subject, and not having a go. Just wanted an explanation as to why you would keep Suarez an extra year? when he is clearly unhappy, is banned for at least 6 games next year anyway, this summer probably represents the best possible time to sell him (length on his contract, FFP rules coming, strong intrest), his behaviour is a bad example to the other young players who are starting their careers.
I have never thought keeping players against their will is a good idea, (mascherano being a prime example) just wanted to know why you think it's a good idea to keep him?

MIKEY

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Waro I'm not interested in your little squabbles but I have to pick you up on one point.
Liverpool is not the greatest city in the world

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Waro great post kiiiiiiidddd. I didn't think you had it in you to write so much rubbish. I suppose the sunlight is giving you a little strength. Cracking more every day I see.

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Nice 1 lad. Didn't know Mikey was a Jedi.

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I'm beginning to think that Waro is David Price!
Waro. the mild mannered janitor?
Could be.
The Juicer

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How about if you're not a billionaire, if those managers were happy at their present clubs and Suarez was pushing for a move elsewhere?

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Waro doesn't like anyone that hasn't got a purple wheelie bin ;-)

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08 Jul 2013 00:19:50
Your a gentleman and a scholar Ed002, I will try and be punctuation and grammatically correct next time I post, but with the reply's I am expecting to this post I would imagine I will resort to the lowest common denominator with my reply's ;)

Waro {Ed007's Note - 2 glaring errors in your first sentance Waro.. It should be 'you're' short for 'you are' and Ed002 can't be a gentleman, she has 'bits' missing for that.}

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Chris; I think you'll find that Liverpool is the greatest City in the World to the people of Liverpool, the city has a vibe and personality all of it's own, which can only be appreciated if you live there.
Just like LFC are the greatest team in the World to Liverpool's Fans, what do we care if other people say were not?
We know we are,
I think you'll find that's where Waro was coming from.

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Is the purple one for old recycled rubbish like waros posts? Lol

MIKEY

Ps. i'm not a Jedi, but I live in a galaxy far, far away (Birkenhead apparently)

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08 Jul 2013 08:34:04
I said I will try ed007, and it's sentence not sentance;-)

Kidmillions, like the purple wheelie bin shout, we wind up lads from kirby about that in work, but don't take comments I made to mikey personally, I know you must regret leaving the 2nd greatest place to live in the world after tamworth but regrets will only eat away at you so let it go, i'm rambling now kid sorry, i'm starting to sound like that boring t*/t mightyreds.

Toodle pip chaps.

Waro

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Surely it is his 'opening sentence' not 'opening sentance' 007 dear fellow.

Waro don't let them drag you down, there is nothing wrong with being passionate about your views even if they are sometimes wrong! ;)

Fester

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07 Jul 2013 20:15:15
Also I think we should stop with this "he could be the next Coutinho" talk. How often does that happen? It's a lot of pressure to not only put on new signings but to also put on Coutinho. We don't need him getting second season syndrome. It's clear he's got class to prevent that but the burden some of you put on players is a little over the top. So not only do the pessimistic fans, but also the optimistic fans all need to take a step back and just let the players show us what they're capable of.

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Does this post make sense to anyone? Help me out.

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How does it not make sense? if you can't read it doesn't make sense I guess. Everyone compares our signings and potential signings to Coutinho saying they could end up like him. It's over the top. Learn to read maybe if you rtp it would make sense

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07 Jul 2013 20:06:44
We're a selling club because we sold two players so far?!?!?! That makes absolutely no sense. Let's be honest if we get Alonso, he would add much needed experience and be a great role model for the young players. IF we are going for him. This could be another regurgitated story from the press. We should all just CALM DOWN AND WAIT TO SEE WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS. not just act rashly based on speculation. Because at the moment it's just that, speculation.

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If we get Alonso? Which I can't see Rodgers going to the board and asking for £10m for a 32yr old.
Everyone is so certain it will all be plain sailing and just how they imagine it to be?
But what if it isn't and for any reason we end with a 32yr old high earner struggling to come to terms with the pace of the Premier and ending up on the bench.
Alonso has a fabulous reputation at LFC and has nothing to gain by coming back and everything to lose.
For LFC and Alonso it just doesn't make sense and is not worth the gamble. The money I'm sure could be put to better use.

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07 Jul 2013 19:40:52
eds Do you have an idea if Liverpool have scouts at the ongoing fifa u20 world cup? If so, any particular names?


AJI {Ed002's Note - I don't know if there is any one there right now.}

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07 Jul 2013 21:27:39
Two players of spain that I thought was good players part from our suso.
OLIVER
MANQUILLO
And a guy of Uruguay.
DIEGO LAXALT

ACHILLES.

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Apart from Suso, Jese Rodriguez and Gerard Deulofeu, the p[layer that stood out for me was JUAN BERNAT, who reminded me about Jordi Alba, in the way that he plays and in looks! He is perhaps the reason why Valencia don't mind Cissokho moving on.

The real AG

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07 Jul 2013 19:55:53
Hi Ed002 u said jovetic won't happen but if monaco can buy falcao etc then why can't we buy a player like jovetic who is not even in that bracket.

We got the money (willing to pay 30 euros on mkh) and can easily offer a very satisfying wage of 100k a week

Money talks and we seem to have some money for a top signing

Is this another dear BR letter? {Ed002's Note - Monaco have far more money than Liverpool. Liverpool has shown no interest in Jovetic.}

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City and Madrid were the last reported to be interested in him after Juve dropped out of the running. And they are definitely a more viable solution for him.

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Faaaaarrrrrrrrrrrr more money

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Anyone who slates anyone for moving to Monaco is a 'person'. Its one of the best cities in the world, has great tax laws, has the best grand prix on its streets, excellent climate, great casinos, I could go on and on.

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Monaco's owners have much more money than Liverpool's owners.
If you took away all the owners and made every Club a co-operative owned by the supporters.
Liverpool fc would come out better and bigger than most.

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07 Jul 2013 19:49:23
I honestly love what Brendan is seeking to do with the team I love watching slick football with pace and skill.resulting in goals, however last season we failed in the physical battles.And I just wonder how he'e going to combat that this season. Agger can't handle the rough games, I am not saying he's not brave enough, rather his body can't stand up to the physical games.We do need a big strong unit at the back, even if it's just for the Alehouse teams, and don;t forget we will be facing Carroll this season and we all know what a handful he can be.

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I'd think Toure would be pretty much be a 'big strong unit'.

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Absolut nonsense. Daniel is one of the toughest men you could ever meet.

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Carroll? Really! This the same guy that goes down at the faintest touch and spends half the game on the floor.

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Our plan A is great and can give some teams a belting but we have no plan B, unfortunately

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08 Jul 2013 09:58:13
Aha, the nonsense about Plan B continues.

We have 3-4 plans so you clearly don't understand the sport.

Plan B is Andy Carroll? Thank God we got rid.

Never again would I want to see LFC play hoof-ball. Support Westham, their plan A, is your beloved plan B. Btw when their plan A doesn't work do they go to plan B? Tiki Taka? Ha ha, never.

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07 Jul 2013 19:36:22
Miralim Pjanic the new no7

Balas

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I would be happy with that.

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I won't he wouldn't score close to what luis would even with 6 game ban

mayhem 1981

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Luis won't score that many if he stays. Besides the 6 game ban he will prob do a Tevez.

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07 Jul 2013 19:34:51
Wigan should complete signing of Jay Spearing this week. Told his representatives hoped premiership interest from Sunderland would materialise but it appears to have wained.

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Ive been told spearing is wanted by a few prem teams.
sjc

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The hold up is his agent has told him to wait a week to see if any FIRM offers come in. I still expect him to sign along with Scott Carson and Grant Holt to replace Kone, who I'm 99% sure will sign for Everton.

The wool from Wigan.

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All drinks on me at the local bar if this guy leaves the club. He has been there for so long even though everyone knows he will never be good enough. He is never going to be good enough for a top 10 team.

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07 Jul 2013 19:13:44
Hi Ed's. Do you think another striker may be bought this summer? I have no doubt another would be bought if suarez were to be sold but do you think another striker may be sought if Suarez stays? Or is Aspas the last of the striker transfers for the summer?

Cheers
Louis

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07 Jul 2013 19:07:13
Hi guys. I'm a friend of jay spearings. He was telling me a bit about the team yesterday, the word within the club is gerrard is getting really frustrated with the clubs transfer business, he so wants to win the prem befor he retires that he's starting to speak out to the players about the clubs inability to bring in top players. Jay seems to think unless there a big improvement gerrard will seek a move to Chelsea or one of the Manchester clubs to get his premier league tittle in the near future. If Suarez is sold it might be the last straw. Just letting u know what I've bin told.

And Ed's just incase u didn't no, a lot of professionals look at this site daily, there just as addicted to it as the fans. Lol

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And which club that has a shout at winning the Premier League has expressed an interest in him exactly? Chelsea looks set in midfield, Utd. lol never going to happen, and City just bout Fernandinho to go along with Yaya so doesn't seem possible either.

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Post of the year

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He's getting on now anyway.If we were to get a 10 million offer for him at 33 I would take it.I think if he feels this way, he will gradually be getting phased out. He would never go to Utd and at where he 'his at this moment they wouldn't want him anymore. Imagine the player we could get paying them Stevies wage.He can still be an influence but not the force of old.

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Oh lord.well someone should tell gerrard he is 33 now plus you should tell jay spearing loose lips sink ships.

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Hahah! I'm glad we have this sort of 'rumour' back.

The real AG

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Are we being asked to believe that the club captain is sewing the seeds of discontent amongst the squad?

Puzzled

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If Gerrard wants to "buy" the title, perhaps he could contribute the £100m (or so) it would require to get anywhere near to it?

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This would be totally understandable from Gerrard's point of view. He is at the twilight of his career. He has given massive service. Both he and Suarez have looked at the future with the present set up. Too many players are now unproven. The premier league title is a long way off. Europe is possible but nothing is certain. FSG have spent money, but wisely?

A move is the only way Stevie can get a premier league medal.

ConnieOnnie

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Anyone having a go at stevie wake up to a rotten post

mayhem 1981

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I'm a good friend of Gerarrd's, and he reckons it's Jay that's unhappy with the transfer situation, not him. And that if things don't improve then Jay is the one who is thinking of moving on to better things.

Who to believe eh.

Dave's dog

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Ok. I'll play along.

Stevie can choose to leave and we will win the title. just like when Owen left and we won the CL.

fair trade

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07 Jul 2013 18:45:31
Eds just wondering what the most searched word has been on the search function. would it be "porn" like all the other search engines, or "escort granny" like on rooneys computer?

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My guess would be "is Torres coming back?"

MIKEY

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07 Jul 2013 18:33:28
Take a bow Ed002. Qatar/QIA/Ooredoo are now a minority shareholder of LFC.
Regards Tim.

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Where'd you hear this? Sort of exciting if it's true.

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07 Jul 2013 18:59:05
I'd have Alonso back 100% at 10m! Ignor his age he's 31 to years younger than gerrard, is gerrard not good enough then guys? I can see Alonso bossing the midfield intil he's 38/40. He's never had pace. It's not hard for him, he controls games easily. Plus it would give us a much stronger squad and allow gerrard to get forward way more often! Right now if gerrard got injured for a couple months were really screwed, nobody to control the game. Bring in Alonso an gerrard getting injured isn't really a big deal. As Alonso is better in that position than gerrard anyway! It's a no brainer for me! Come in Rodgers u said u wanted to bring in MEN so far just toure who can be considers a man out if our signings. YNWA
Cheers
BC

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Alonso is amazing best player we never replaced

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I agree that Gerrard could still be played in a more advanced role with Alonso pulling the strings in midfield and Lucas doing the ugly defensive work.

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Let's by the young guys who have the potential Alonso had at 23.Stop looking at the past and move forward.

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Your living in the past. It's embarrassing!

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Living in the past? Not so sure, he may have a point. Alonso is, if I recall, a Real Madrid starter. His range of passing and his reading of the game are phenomenal. We DO need a bit of proven quality so why not? Besides, he's passionate about the club and would give his all.

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07 Jul 2013 18:56:07
i know this must get tiring but I've been searching for this for 2 days now has HM agreed to join dortmund or is there still a realistic chance we could sign him. I know its a very complicated situation but i'm all out of options

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He has not officially signed.
He will sign for Dortmund soon.
He will not be joining Liverpool.
Hope that clears it up for you.

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We always had an unrealistic chance for HM anyway.

If you look closely enough you will see our bidding limits for any player has more or less been established over the last couple of transfer windows.

Its about 12-15m at the upper limit for our top tier targets, which rules out any chance of HM anyway, and its 6-8m for what has become our normal transfer bids, for example we have just bid 7.7m for Jorgihno from Verona and like all transfers so far this season this bid fits snugly inside what has become our 6-8m normal parameter. After that there will probably be one player signed who fits into 12-15m bracket. And that will it for the summer.

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I think LFC wanted to buy him outright, with no co- owners, as co- ownership in not allowed in this country.
But co- ownership of players is allowed in Germany, and I think maybe Mkhitaryans co- owners see him as a cash cow that they don't want to give up! Hence the reason Liverpool found it so difficult to get the deal.

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Thank you for the above explanation
Now it all makes sense, sometimes its hard to understand some cryptic comments about his deal which muddy the waters
Thanks again

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The reason he won't be coming to Liverpool is Dortmund agreed to pay his new agent more than we were prepared to. FACT.

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07 Jul 2013 18:52:30
Hi eds, so Rodgers is looking to have 2 players for each position. So are we looking for a CDM to create competition for Lucas as well? Also see that we are being linked with Wilfred bony is this just a regurgitated story or does it have any legs? I'd say he would be a better replacement for Suarez than HM. 30 goals in 31 appearances is impressive in any league. And even more so in the Dutch league than the Ukrainian league in my opinion. Wish we could make a real marquee signing though if we are to replace Suarez, would do good for our shirt sales {Ed002's Note - What does shirt sales matter.}

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I don't know Ed maybe revenue? {Ed002's Note - Liverpool don't get the money from shirt sales.}

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Companies sponsor shirts for exposure. More shirts sold = bigger exposure and turnover. Big clubs with top players that sell more shirts are likely to get bigger sponsorship deals?

If LFC shirt sales are poor and Warrior don't make what they expected in revenue nor the expected exposure, would they offer us a bigger deal next time?

Am I missing something?

And please don't be ugly with the reply, I was lucky enough to go to Uni, although it seems a fairly simple thing in fairness.

{Ed002's Note - Warrior is using Liverpool as a loss leader as they know they will never be getting their money back. If you want to see an improvement in Liverpool's finances, then getting back in the Champions League is the answer. Standard Chartered are not caring about the number of shirts sold.}

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Maybe he's got a little stall in town that sells shirts ed.

MIKEY

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The only conclusion I can come to with the fascination on shirt sales here is that many posters must sell them.

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Warrior simply won't be blaming LFC current and future squad in regards reduced shirt sales.

They have hired a team of 6 year olds to develop shirt designs and are doing a fine job of knee capping their shirt sales, despite any fan favourites we have now or will sign in the future.

SpudRed

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Standard Chartered DO NOT want us to qualify for the CL. It will cost them an extra £5m a year. They are very happy with the exposure they are getting.

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Why would Liverpool replace suarez with a target man like bony?

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07 Jul 2013 18:08:13
Hi eds have we really bid for Jorginho? Thanks. {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}

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I read the post and no joy on a answer if we really made a bid

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That would be your answer then; we have been 'linked' but not even media speculation says we've bid.

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07 Jul 2013 17:49:47
Hey all,

Normally I make comments about the team but I actually have a rumour now. I live in Paris and met a few guys on a night out this weekend who claimed they grew up with Ben Arfa in the suburbs and still chat to him to this day. They said that if he is going to move this summer it will most likely be Liverpool he moves to. Not sure how reliable they were but they do still live in the same postcode that Ben Arfa grew up in. They said that in France Liverpool is still a huge club and one of the most supported English clubs there. Just thought I'd pass on what I heard.

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If you live in Paris you probably know already that Liverpools one of the biggest clubs out there as you put it, probably doesn't take a couple of dodgy fellas to tell you. Also you would probably know the town they grew up in rather than just say suburbs.

MIKEY

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For what it's worth I enjoy posting on this site and don't want people thinking I'm lying about where I am or anything. However the reason I said suburbs is because I wasn't sure where he grew up, it was in the 92 postcode I think either Montrouge or Boulogne-Bilancourt. And I also knew that Liverpool is a huge club in France but it seemed easier to say 'They said' rather than 'I have met a lot of people here in Paris who have told me that Liverpool. " I don't know if the eds can verify it through an IP address or anything but hopefully this answers your doubts. Why would I make up a rumour that says that Ben Arfa might like to come to Liverpool.

Best wishes

CumbrianScouse

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07 Jul 2013 17:49:33
We miss out on one player, and what I hate to see is all the negativity. I mean come on. its 1 player, yes a damn good one, but somebody else will be lined up. have a little faith and get behind the team we've already got. anybody else is a bonus!

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I second you on that

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The problem is that 1 player would have improved our team drasticly! His replacement is looking to be jorginho at 9/10m he's a massive risk. The fans want to see an improved starting 11. And right now maybe only aspas will be init prob for downing. I think this is a make it brake window for Liverpool. With gerrard getting on and Suarez/reina leaving we're going to be very short on experience and quality. Hopefully in the next month or so we can see an improvement in our next 2 or 3 signings or we could quite possible have a team worse than last year.

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07 Jul 2013 17:43:58
Reading reports now that we have approached jorginho. Plays in Italy and is an up and coming 21 midfielder/winger. Not sure what I think of it. I would back the signing but I think there are other positions in need of strengthening, then again there is a few months left.

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07 Jul 2013 17:31:24
if Mkhitaryan cannot be signed then BR will use Coutinho at CAM and buy a first choice LW.

LW targets are; Iker Muniain, Griezmann, Dzsudzsak, Tello(on loan)

Jorginho will be bought to replace Shelvey in CM and also be backup to Coutinho at CAM.

LB cover will be Aly Cissokho and Jack Robinson will get loaned out or sold.

Also BR might decide to spend big on Papadopoulos after all.

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Now that sounds like good business to me, hopefully this is the plan

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Alonso is too old let it go he is the past we need to build for the future.

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Too old or not he's a fantastic player still, even if we have him for just 2 years, he'll bring a lot to the team

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For just a couple of years Alonso will bring little more than £10m+wages worth of dept.

MIKEY

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He would cost us over 20 million for 2 yrs, grow up and move on.

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07 Jul 2013 17:25:13
If the rumours are true about Jorginho and Alonso, I am really torn
Would love to have Alonso back as he is a great and loves he club and we love
Jorginho looks a future Alonso
£10m for Alonso at 32 and £7m for Jorginho at 21
My heart says Alonso but my head says Jorginho
Any comments Ed?

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I must admit if I was a possible target an Ayre visited me I wouldn't want to sign.

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What I have seen of Jorginho, he's an Alonso type player rather than a winger, very much a playmaker from deeper positions. I can see him playing cover for Gerrard or Lucas.

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07 Jul 2013 16:58:30
Sack Ayre now. We need an expert negotiator not a perrenial failure.

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We're on sell before buy mode right now. don't blame ayre, he's done quite well this summer

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I think Ayre makes good, level-headed decisions about targets both for the club and transfer targets, I also like the way he seems to have a lot of faith in Rodgers. Having said that, he can't negotiate for the life of him and to be honest I wouldn't mind seeing someone brought in to specifically do that.

RedKopite

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Did he not sign Coutinho!

SACK YOU! You knee-jerk plonker

But then again McDonald's need all the burger
Flippers they can get so your safe


Lyndon

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No name, no voice. nobody is interested in what you say.

dd

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I literally laughed out loud at Lyndons response haha!

Red Raw

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Funny that. Many people in the game believe its immense business from Liverpool to get 21.5m for Shelvey & Carroll. While snaring a couple of really highly regarded players from La Liga for less than 14m. Unless you are one of the guys or girls off Dragons Den then you probably know half of f^%# all about negotiating so zip it.

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Lyndons response was so bitter it was personal i'd say its ayre or his son or something

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07 Jul 2013 16:57:01
Hi eds its me mike. Great site appreciate all the hard work mates. Just heard a rumour that we could be in for baines if man u don't improve their offer. Would be a great buy! Have u heard anything about this. Thanks.
Its me mike gilbo

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How often do players move between Liverpool and Everton directly? Not going to happen.

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07 Jul 2013 16:46:55
With the Mkhitaryan saga now more or less over, do you think Liverpool will now pursue on signing of tiago Illori. Or do you think we will continue looking for an attacking player? {Ed002's Note - They are unrelated.}

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07 Jul 2013 16:23:53
With the HM deal looking dead in the water. What would you think of a bid for Fellaini? I think efc would sell for 20m - and he would be an ideal attacking midfielder for us. Would add much more power to our set plays also. Not a rumour/ just want to see what lfc fans think.
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I think he would be a good signing but they're not that stupid to sell us their 2nd best player. Only way they would I think would be if he has a release clause. At that I'm not sure if he'd even come to us, not loyalty issue but I think it would be unlikely he'd move to a club outside champions league. He's already playing for a club at a similar level right now.

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07 Jul 2013 16:22:56
Our policy is to buy B TEAM players on low wages, and sell all the high earners. Aston Villa next season :-(

SACK AYRE

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Also heard the end of the world is nigh

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A little frustrated too in the transfer market, while we have signed some great "squad players" we have yet to sign any one who can command a first team place, a central defender to go with Agger, midfielder for Stevie G, & maybe a front man if as it seems Suarez is going to leave,,
Canadian Red

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I would disagree. I'd say we've bought three likely first 11 players already in Mignolet, Aspas, and Toure and all 3 are upgrades on (or at the very least certainly not worse than) what we had previously (Reina, Downing, Carragher).

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This is so clearly not a Liverpool supporter it makes me laugh.

BIG FAIL MATE.

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Completely agree with RDL. If Reina stays then either he'll have to be better or else he'll be dropped for Reina. Toure has the experience like Carragher but younger legs, not much between them when you take Carragher's age into it. Aspas is an upgrade on Downing. Alberto an upgrade on Shelvey (bench/squad).

Looks good to me.

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07 Jul 2013 16:21:50
Alonso is going to Chelsea

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07 Jul 2013 16:16:21
Liverpool have made an enquiry about brazilian Jorginho he's a DLP playing in italy with the documents to play for italy blablabla.
Also MK is about 30% chance Liverpool will get him from what I know Liverpool want him he wants us but we just won't pay up the full cash.
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07 Jul 2013 15:52:06
For the first time ever I'm dreading the season starting. We've not signed 1 player who will improve us yet

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AGREE 100%. No player who can walk into this team.

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Except for toure improving our empty position at CB aspas improving our rw position mignolet probably improving reinas consistency or replacing him and is very capable of doing so and Luis Alberto improving our prospects for the future. Muppet

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Except for toure improving our empty position at CB aspas improving our rw position mignolet probably improving reinas consistency or replacing him and is very capable of doing so and Luis Alberto improving our prospects for the future. Muppet

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Aspas and Toure have made an immediate improvement. Not sure if Mignolet is any better than Reina plus I not even sure Alberto is good enough to be honest.

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Aspas is an improvement on Downing. Toure is certainly an improvement over Carragher's (sadly) now empty boots, and Mignolet is at least as good as Reina (and younger and on lesser wages I'd imagine).

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. after 5 days of the transfer window being open. Are you not embarrassed by that post? Thankfully you never signed the post so you're spared the ridicule.

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Were you hiding under a rock for the past 4 years?

The real AG

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07 Jul 2013 22:08:58
First time? I guess you were leaping for joy when we bought Jovanovic, Poulsen and Konchesky. You must be delusional. For God's sake, it just seven days in.

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Glad I'm not that poster. If he wasn't hiding under a rock before, he just might, after those replies.

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07 Jul 2013 15:49:22
Ed O heard Glen Johnson could be on his way out; what does this mean? will there be a replacement or will we be relying on injury prone Martin Kelly and young Andre Wisdom at right back {Ed002's Note - I have absolutely no idea at all - like your last question you just seem to be making stuff up.}

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07 Jul 2013 15:46:47
Hi ed are Liverpool interested in doing a swap deal that could involve skrtel or Coates going out and another centre back coming in. possibly with Swanseas Williams {Ed002's Note - I have absolutely no idea at all.}

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07 Jul 2013 16:18:30
we are struggling to attract top names as we are not in cl, that's why suarez wants to go.the players we have just bought are like kk reign Henderson downing adam shelve we are not going to get in Europe with these type of players.why would thiago come here.we will be mid table side for several seasons I think we all need reality check unless the arabs throw some money our way

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I think it's more about how Rodgers gets the players to play than the names on the team sheet

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The no name opposition fan posts return. I was actually enjoying this site of late.

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07 Jul 2013 15:38:10
Hi eds. Since we have missed out on HM and suarez is leaving. Could you tell us who you might think could be their possible replacement? {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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07 Jul 2013 15:37:42
Hi eds, can I just say one thing?
I went to school with this person called Conor Levingston. He is the best player I have ever seen play. He is on the Irish national team (u16) and I think he plays for Wolverhampton wanderers' youth team. He will be leaving the country soon to go to the academy because he had to complete his state exams.
Just whatever contact you have with LFC, tell them about this kid because he will be free and he WILL be world class! Just even send scouts to look at him. Remember the name,
CONOR LEVINGSTON.
Thanks a million!

REDHEAD

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No, sign my son. He's only 10 and hasn't shown much promise, but I'd really like to retire early.

CSL.

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07 Jul 2013 15:31:36
I love all the transfer rumours and banter, looking 10 times a day to see if we`ve signed anyone but I`m actually looking forward to seeing players that we already have next season,
I think coutinho will be a big player for us next season as will sturridge
Martin Kelly is going to be back (rate him highly)
Raheem will hopefully be wiser and more consistent
Hoping Hendo will suddenly burst into life (but not holding my breath!)
Suso I`m looking forward to seeing get a run in the team
Joe Allen is another player who will hopefully find his form in his second season
Like to see Lucas back to his best too

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I agree think we 4get some of the good improvement s we made after xmass! Think we could I lot twists and turns this season there's a lot of pressure on man city /man u / and now Chelsea to win the league put spurs/ and the gunners then yes it be tough but think there's going to be a lot ov points getting dropped think a lot of people will write us off which will be a good thing
Ynwa. Lfc linc

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Jul 2013 15:27:30
Hey Ed's, do you have any information on this Aly Cissokho rumour the tabloids are running with? Any truth in it? I believe he would be a great player for competition with Jose Enrique. Might even get the best out of Aly.

Wez from Aus {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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07 Jul 2013 14:59:16
Hi Eds! After over an hour of web searching I came across these names "linked" with Liverpool. Which of these are genuine targets:

-Villa
-Alderwiereld
-Strootman
-Eriksen
-Hooper
-Gomez
-Vucinic
-Vidal
-Alonso
-Marcelo
-Susaeta(i read something about him last year too)

Thanks! {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

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Vucinic! Great shout mate!

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07 Jul 2013 14:46:57
Hi eds, what do u think the chances are that agger stays at Liverpool this season, because I was planning to get a home shirt with his name on it.
Thanks Jay {Ed002's Note - I wouldn't do it just yet. You can use the search engine to find where I explained what I know.}

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07 Jul 2013 14:03:49
ed do you reckon we are becoming dortmund and porto esc. in respect of getting the players young and developing them for potential high re sale value? or will be a case of doing that 4 a few years and hopefully getting the rewards i.e champs lge and that will attract the very top players perse . and combine the 2 aspects . After all its a moneyball system now. u see all these gr8 players going to monaco etc. football is more hollow now. doesn't mean u stop following it and supporting your team . But values to the fan seem to not manifest in the way these teams operate anymore . the ambition is firmly in the players pocket potential rather than the love for any club. falcao and players alike . players call the shots big time. i'd rather see platini induse a respect the contract thing into his rules . just my thoughts
5 gold stars {Ed002's Note - Moneyball applies to baseball, and baseball only.}

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Not entirely true edoo2 because moneyball is about onbase percentage you can aply this to football. SAY you want to achieve top 4 you need to score 70 goals and conceed less then 40 to use moneyballl you add up a reasonable stastic to how many goals your players can score then with the new target you are going to sighn you look at a legue simlar to ours like bundesliga and you see how many goals they scored. you find a player who will achieve that 70 goals with that team {Ed002's Note - No, Moneyball is just about baseball. Let me know when you find the player who will be getting Liverpool 70 goals next season.}

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Not seventy goals a season but u add up the averige amount of goals from each player in your team and say your team without a winger would theoretically get 55 you would need a wingner who could get 15 goals. This is a element of money ball is it not edoo2

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I should have used a different word. I didn't mean moneyball. money based r to that effect
5 gold stars

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Makes me laugh how many people think this money ball tactic would work in football.

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Moneyball or sabremetrics is a baseball stat analysis system. It doesn't apply to Football. However, ALL of the top teams use statistical analysis in regard to player analysis. ALL of them. But football uses it as a prelim followed by assessment of players mentality and ability to fit the preferred system of a certain team and coach.

As far as us becoming Dortmund or even Porto like. Cool. Last 3 years, Dortmund have won their domestic league twice, runner up once and CL finalists once. Porto have won their domestic league 3 times in 3 years and also won the Europa league. I'd take that.

SpudRed

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07 Jul 2013 13:57:03
Is there any truth in the Chelsea bid for suarez? If so would he consider them? I thought the whole issue from suarez was the English media. Surely if he was to consider Arsenal, Chelsea etc then this would defeat the whole purpose of his criticism.

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Depends if he's happy being called a hypocrite on top of everything else he's called. I suspect if the money's good he won't mind. He can barely speak English so I doubt he sits and reads the paper every morning and has a little weep at what's being said about him.

MIKEY

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Too old I feel 10mill is a gamble

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07 Jul 2013 13:43:39
Does anyone seriously believe we would spend 10m on Alonso when funds are a bit tight, we need to strenghen in other areas first, and signing him means we would need to stick both Allen and Henderson on the bench also limiting chances for suso to play in a central roll as well.
Absolue garbage, he's still a great player and would improve the midfield yes but it's not worth it financially and would only hinder us in the long term by holding back the players I mentioned above.
We need a centre back and an attacking mid in the "mickey" mold. Not yet another centre mid.

MIKEY

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07 Jul 2013 13:37:48
It's understandable why HM is looking at Dortmund instead of LFC at the moment. Champions league is a big pull for all players.

I would like to see LFC bring in Alsono and Villa with the 20-30m we would have spent on HM. Both reasonable accessible for lfc. This brings a lot of experience and 'winning mentality' to the club and in the short term surely help to lift us back in to the top 4. Then next season we can start to attract some top quality young players with CL football.

Not saying this will happen, its against 'policy'. But would be an alternative approach.

APL

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07 Jul 2013 13:13:30
Heard something about BR lookin at alonso any truth in that, would love to see him back? Jd Brooksy

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07 Jul 2013 13:08:34
Any news on Jorginho from Hellas Verona? An Italian Journo by the name of Alfredo pedulla has said we have made an 8m offer, I was wondering if you knew anything?

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07 Jul 2013 13:06:22
Alonso is a great player but do you really think these owners would spend 10 million on a 30 plus player. They find it hard to scramble together 25 million even after selling Johnjo and Andy. Looks like we are a selling club for as long as FSG are here. Sell the good players and replace them with unproven reserve players on half the salary and hope the fans are dumb enough not to notice what they are doing.

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Ex player told me Gerrard really worried about lack of fight and experience in the squad when told the young player policy would continue.

My point would be that 2/3 yrs of Xabi now in place of Lucas (if Rafa bids) or Downing (29 yrs and on massive wages) would replace experience in the squad with experience but Alonso is a class above either of the two I have mentioned.

Therefore it's not reversing the Fsg policy it's saying replace older higher paid players with better ones to help the kids!

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A selling club. Are you delusional?

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What good players have we sold? Please remind me.

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Alonso mascharano Torres. 3 of the best players in the prem! That's why we went from 2nd to 7th and now we can't get out of it!

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And won't get out of it. I hate to be a downer (or is it a downing?" but BR would do really well to get us beyond 7th this coming season. I honestly just don't see how we make 5th not to talk of 4th.

Just look at the players when the season starts. Look beyond the camaraderie, the fans and the noises. I just feel everyone at the club has accepted a certain status quo, a certain acceptance.

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3 players we sold but for good reason.
We got an offer we couldn't refuse for Alonso.
Masch wanted out and went on strike, so we couldn't keep hold of him.
Torres had lost form and his head then we got an offer of a lifetime that we couldn't turn down.

That doesn't make us a selling club. All clubs sell, we sold those 3 at the right times.
It's the replacements that let us down and pushed us back.
Poulson, aquilini, Carroll among others.

MIKEY

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MIKEY you are spot on. We need to balance the books despite owners being wealthy they are businessmen. We will always sell at right price but need to replace with quality not kak like in the past. The book balancing will take a lot longer than people realise as despite no champ league we are still spending more than we earn. We are heading the right way but it will not happen overnite like most expect!

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07 Jul 2013 13:04:14
luis suarez. 1.first club head butts referee. 2.first club in europe goes on strike and threatens court proceedings to obtain ajax move. 3. while at ajax bites opposition player receives 7 match ban. 4.first full season at Liverpool gets 8 match ban for racially abusing opposition player additional 1match ban for gesture towards crowd.during off season continually flirts with other clubs in speciffic juventus.5.second season at Liverpool during international break repeatedly suggests he could leave the club drops manager in it reguarding diving.once again bites opposition player(yes he bit another player)receives 10 match ban.during off season he continually stresses he wants to leave the club. my question to all Liverpool fans is this - if suarez played for another club and Liverpool were considering making a 35-40 million pound bid would you be happy about it.if you answered this question honestly you will then understand why no bids yet.however maybe all these big clubs know nothing of his history 50 million please. frank de b quote - luis suarez huge talent huge mental issues big risk (we were warned).

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If he wasn't a footballer he would have been locked up or sectioned by now.
We will be lucky to get 50m for him IMO. He's worth it talent wise, but like you say he represents a huge risk to whoever buys him.

MIKEY

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Hypocrite we knew about this when we signed him from Ajax and now people like you get on your high horse. Where was all this rage when we signed him?.exactly hypocrisy is sickening.

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Excellent post!
Yes . Suarez is a good player, but I don't believe he, s a good person. And I don't believe he gives a rats a*** about Liverpool. Louis Suarez only cares about himself.lets not fool ourselves.
Get rid I say ASAP!

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07 Jul 2013 14:14:54
hypocracy.what I knew he was going to racially abuse a player, bite another player, dive all over the place, betray a club legend, betray his next manager.the guy could not give rats for Liverpool.ihave supported Liverpool for 50 years this club means something more than winning a match.its more than just another football club.suarez and his supporters shame the club and its proud history.grow up and gain some principles.

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Luis suarez shouldn't be sectioned or jailed that's so stupid.joey barton should be sectioned or jailed when is the last time suarez was dragged out of a club by a bouncer for doing this or that his trouble comes on the pitch he is like a 18 yr old kid with no manners.things aren't going right he acts like a tool.if he leaves Liverpool know they can't let him go cheap and if he stays he is going to do great again.so leave it to the pros he held the team together when we were going through a bad patch.thank god we had him then.yes he doesn't care about Liverpool why would he do we give a shiz about his home club in uruaguay.we can't say hendo cares more about Liverpool than sunderland.fact is he gives his all and helped us out.the club supported him because he was so valuable to the team.the club and him owe nothing to each other.when he's sold we must get top top money because he is a top player with a long contract and is never injured.he gets banned but his new team should put some terms in the contract to cover themselves from his crap like we should have done.if they could do that the fact of his past shouldn affect his valuation all that much

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I never mentioned joey Barton at all so don't know where that came from.
I double dare you to go and bite someone completely unprovoked in the street, at work, in the cinema etc and see if you get sectioned or locked up. If that doesn't work, try it twice. Lol

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No see buddy I never said you mentioned joey barton.my point was that guy is involved in all sorts of antics.in his personal life.and is an example of someone who should be in jail and has been. suarez is not that type of person he's an on pitch trouble maker barton is both.suarez on field issues should affect his personal wages given to him by the buying club.and they should have assurances in the contract that he doesn't get so lucratively paid if he gets banned.not cost us.lfc didn't bite anyone.so his value is 50 mill that's that.
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It doesn't really matter if that behaviour is on the pitch or not mate, it's unexcusable. I'm not exactly a fan of Barton either, met him a few times and he's a complete waste of atoms.
I have met suarez as well though and thought he was an aragant sod as well. He's a nutcase basically and he's a loose cannon.

MIKEY

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07 Jul 2013 12:33:05
Hey eds, if we lose out on HM, do you know who else the club may look to? Or is it too early to tell?

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07 Jul 2013 12:32:36
Xabi back? No thanks.

Frankly it's more spin and nonsense.

Firstly, the management will be more than happy to let this rumour catch on . yes they're thinking at least the fans believe we will make every effort, when in actuality they'll do nowt!

Secondly - why do you want him back!? He chose to leave, yeah you blame Rafa - but Alonso left on his terms - and if he wants to go to Chelsea - well that's enough to not want him back at all.

What have I said before - players have no loyalty or allegiances - so no point wasting energy on them or getting attached to them.

No point him coming back - he's history - move on.

M

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Why would you not want xabi, he still suports us there is much evidence of that, he is one of the best players in the world and the one difference in our season where we came second to when we came third was because xabi alonso.

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Alonso had some good times at LFC, clearly is still fond of the club and fans. If we were interested I think he would be tempted, but would he look elsewhere to challenge for titles straight away

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The owners could not afford he's wages. They only sign players on low wages.

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Some of you have short memories. Alonso played his best football when he was looking for a move away from the club. His previous season, and I think the one before that, had been so so, hence why Rafa wanted to sell him.

Don't let misplaced nostalgia cloud your judgement.

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Your one deluded individual M.

I think Alonso back is not the way forward for us, but your delusion is at a stage where it cannot be cured.

The real AG

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He could be another Gary Mac, what a good buy that turned out to be, so never say never

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Is Toure on low wages? Our wage bill is still top 4 isn't it? Even though we finish 6, 7, 8. I think the owners have a right to sort wage bill out. Wasn't a problem giving Suarez 150k per week because he earns it (on the pitch). So stop being so black and white. Surely it's sensible that the squad players a on a wage significantly below stars. If they prove themselves they move up. High wages scupper our chances of off-loading the flops remember (Joe Cole, Jovanovic, Aquilani?)

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Alonso hopefully won't come

He's too slow for EPL now!

Such Delusion here about Alonso

He had one good season when he played for LFC out of five seasons

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One good season in 5! hmmm, I have another viewpoint, maybe he developed gradually into a better footballer over those five years to become the world class midfielder he was before he left.

Cant really blame him for leaving which was a decision sanctioned by Rafa who also publically courted an inferior player.

Would he improve our team, debatable when you consider he would probably replace/deputise for gerrard. Would he improve the squad? hell yeah he would, him behind coutinho, sturridge and aspas would be class.

I would prefer this to another untested youngster right now and would be just as shrewd as the Kolo Toure capture which I bet a million pounds will be a great signing. Altho papa would have been better but still a good alternative.

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08 Jul 2013 19:37:59
@OP - you do realise that you spent your whole post stating that Alonso is NOT someone you would want to sign for us. And then slated FSG for doing NOWT to sign him.

So, if they sign him; you slag them off for buying a player you think not good enough.

If they don't sign him; you slag them off for teasing the fans but never buying the player.

Confused.

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07 Jul 2013 12:19:45
Hi eds
more logic I feel than rumour but if LFC miss out on MK it would seem logical to go for alonso in the sense it would not only satisfy fans, but allow lfc to attract a well established player. I am aware they play different positions but still think Stevie G is more than capable of holding the AM role whilst suso matures for another year or coutinho.

viking {Ed002's Note - I don't see that the fans are a factor in the decision of which players to buy.}

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His fee would get covered on shirt sales alone! {Ed002's Note - Liverpool don't get the money from shirt sales.}

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07 Jul 2013 12:04:21
Liverpool are set to bid £10m for Xabi Alonso if boss Brendan Rogers can convince owner John W Henry to relax his 'no over-30s' rule

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To much, but it would give DM cover and allow SG to take the HM role.

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They just signed 32 year old Kolo Toure. Gerrard said in may that FSG want him to extend his contract. He's 33. They wanted Carragher to stay another year. These are all big wage player over 30. Glen Johnson is 29, Agger is 28 turning 29.

The age of player is not as important as they player's quality and them fitting the team and the system. FSG have shown this.

All that said, as much as I love Xabi, I do not think he's a good fit for us right now.

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07 Jul 2013 12:01:45
While the Henrik Mkrtchyan deal may not officially be done with Dotmund as yet, and maybe I am getting cynical due to the nature of the source however Sky promoting that the deal isn't done wouldn't have anything to do with keeping people betting would it?

Andy K

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07 Jul 2013 11:57:20
I'd like to start a discussion about one of our old favourites, Mr Xabi Alonso. Recent reports suggest we're back in for him.

Now apparently the fee would be around 10 million. To me that really would a great bit of business but I'm still on the fence. Would everyone prefer it if we invested the money in another "youngster" to challenge with Hendo and Allen? or spend it on a 31 year old who certainly isn't getting any younger. Some people might says he's past it but if you look at the Madrid vs Manc game it's clear to see Xabi had a long way to go yet and would still dominate at this level. He ripped them to shreds!

To me I would love to see him back due to his experience and his shear class.

Would really like to know what others think!

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Would love him back but £10m is too much.

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I think he's a luxury that's not worth having

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I want him back. RIGHT NOW. But for us to get him, Real Madrid must come and get Suarez first. And it is 38 million plus Alonso. Anything lower than that, no deal.

Thanks.

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07 Jul 2013 11:56:44
I know we've all been brought to life by the whole Alonso situation. I would absolutely love for him to come back, I would be in tears of joy to see him playing in a red shirt again, but I've been here long enough to know Macca is spot on with his info more often than not. If he does move to Chelsea, I will be heartbroken.

Dave

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If he moves to Chelsea he can go and do one. Same as Rafa and Torres.

We've been to nice and respectful to our ex players/manager for too long. There comes a time when these money grabbers should get what they deserve.

They could go anywhere but no. They sign for our rivals. But we love Liverpool blah de blah. BS.

We need to toughen up lads.

Alfie {Ed002's Note - Many fans are not responsible to the current players, let alone the ex-players.}

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07 Jul 2013 11:54:54
alonso won't be coming back to Liverpool, he want's to go to london, so its a publicity stunt to try and make the fans happy, after not getting Henrikh Mkhitaryan.
it's Liverpool trying to pull the wool over our eyes again.
So please don't listen to them you will only be sad when it does not happen,

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Thankyou ed for putting that players nime in for me. you are doing a qonderful job. keep it up.

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Another pointless post

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07 Jul 2013 11:48:59
Hey eds is there any real interest in Alonso or is it again just fan made? To be it looks like possibly since we've missed out on makhitariyan Brendan might be thinking we go out an get Alonso who will play one of the two holding midfield positions in the 4 2 3 1 which will relieve Gerrard of that position and he can then play as an attacking midfielder behind the striker in the three like he used to during the latter bennetiz days. makes really good sense . only that FSG would not commission a move for a 31 year old. thoughts?

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07 Jul 2013 11:20:34
Eds can you give that list of left backs again. tried searching but was unsuccessful. thankyou {Ed002's Note - I don't know which Ed has given you the information.}

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07 Jul 2013 11:35:16
Is it true the sun is shining, mrs aaiiii served "breakfast" this morn, and Xabi may well be heading back.

To old my todger!

Y'cant go to tesco for a tin of experience.

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You've got the best poster name on here mate, I love that. Haha.
But Tesco have "Best Before" dates on their stuff.
And I am afraid that Alonso fits into that aisle now.
Waste of money if Liverpool are thinking of spending 10 mill or whatever on him.
The Juicer

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07 Jul 2013 15:13:27
Why thank you kind sir, in keeping with your analogy Juicer my man the boy may have a reduced sticker on him but that label still reads three good years.

As rafa may say, Does he add "qwal-he-tee"?, there's plenty of the older chaps who would do a job and in today's heady world of finance 10m. not a huge bowl of chicken soup is it (aisle 8)?

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07 Jul 2013 11:34:31
I would LOVE to see Alonso back. He could do a Mcallister for us or in Alonso's case even better! 10M seems excessive though since he's leaning towards 32. If they can do business between 6-7M then AWESOME!

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07 Jul 2013 11:31:22
Whilst we all appreciate Xabis' talent and service at LFC. From a footballing and business perspective, it does not make much sense.
He doesn't fit FSG policy, you may not like this, but they are the owners and whining is not going to change anything.
And we already have enough players in midfield. Not too mention SG is currently playing a similar role to Xabis.
BR and FSG are not going to throw money away for fans' nostalgia sorry.
KK went well didn't it?
Just deal with it. He won't be arriving any time soon if at all.
Would love for actual logic, and objective thinking to be proven otherwise though.
Davey Liver

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07 Jul 2013 11:31:20
if we don't get Mkhitaryan we will get Eriksen AND Dzsudzsak.

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07 Jul 2013 11:28:38
Would like by the end of the window. If Suarez is sold for £40m. Spearing £3m and Coates £4m. I'd keep Skrtel he may have another season like the one before last.
Alderweild
Bony
Chadli
And a left back
I'd give Coady the chance to cover CM plus Allen should be fit. Along with Gerrard playing a deeper role no need to buy Wanyama type DM.
Kelly and Wisdom to cover CB/RB rather than buy Ilori
Suso, Coutinho the role HM was due. Maybe try Pacheco or Borini in that coming from midfield a la HM/Lampard. Both intelligent players.
A good winger like Chadli will allow Ibe less pressure as reading how well Sterling is looking in training he'll be more regular but still requires protection, so a winger should come in. I like Downing. I know most don't but he has given 100% to make it work and shouldn't be dumped on all the time.
If the left back is the caliber of cover/competition BR has done for GK, then I think our squad would look awesome. All want to play, want to play good football, work as a team. I cannot see a weak area.
Think the players I've chosen are all available, would cost in just fees under £40m and wages less combinde then Suarez etc. so hopefully the HM funds, sales of Spearing and Coates cover the taxes etc and allow some debt to be paid or cover a a Jan window?
Carlo

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07 Jul 2013 11:26:13
Diego Costa or Michu to be our "Attacking Midfielder", which BR wants?
Any chance Eds? they certainly both score goals

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07 Jul 2013 11:22:16
I really want Suso to have a big part in the team next season let's give him a go instead of signing someone else! He's good enough!

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I agree he's good enough, however like I posted yesterday it's his consistancy that worries me, he needs a go in the team but we can't rely on him the whole season.

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Correct MIKEY just think people want to sign Players for the sake of it if we don't get our top targets we should give him a chance till January at least.

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Sure. since 7th-8th appears to be our customary position both now and into the foreseeable future, I don't see why Suso can't play the full season.

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Maybe tomato, I will wait till I see who was the back up option before I fully agree there.
Who knows though, maybe the second half of the season and pre season suso has really worked on his fitness and stamina. If so then he could really take the team by storm.

MIKEY

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07 Jul 2013 11:07:39
So Alonso could be available this summer and while we all have great memories of him in a Liverpool shirt would he improve our starting line up? Unless Gerrard is going back to CAM playing further forward than last season i'd have thought they'd be competing for the same position, there's no doubting having Xabi back would improve the squad but I think the squad has been reinforced enough and now it's time to add some real quality to the starting eleven. When Suarez goes a replacement needs to be brought in but that doesn't necessarily need to be another striker, Sturridge is perfectly capable of leading the line and hopefully the medical team can work their magic and keep him fit.

always a red

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07 Jul 2013 11:04:05
Nacer Chadli is waiting for us to bid according to the press. Is he good enough. BR is not moving on Astu to give Sterling and Ibe a chance, but is this guy to good to pass up?
Carlo

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07 Jul 2013 10:57:52
I'm going to paint a picture that both the older and younger posters may recognise -
** picture the scene **
Cigar-chomping, bristle-headed, growling newspaper editor J Jonah Jameson is berating his cowering sports sub-editor in his penthouse office.
"We need to sell newspapers, clicks on line goddammit. Get those mugs out there (his arm waves to the sprawling urban lawn behind his window) buying our stuff".
Chomps on cigar.
His rolled up shirt-sleeved arm casts a giant banner before his flat top head.
"Gossip. Rumours. Panic in the street. If we're lucky.
Give me 'Alonso back to Liverpool'.
Roll the presses now.
Oh, and you're fired".

The Juicer

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07 Jul 2013 10:57:52
Eds just seeking opinion really, but if top 4 is not achieved this coming season, could br's job be on the line? {Ed001's Note - possibly, yes.}

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07 Jul 2013 10:44:17
I just posted a pic on Liverpool sightings to show espn reporting what sky reportedly said. RedTurk

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Where, I just looked and there is nothing there.

Jonny Spandex

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It just quotes the same source. Nothing new. I wouldn't be getting my hopes up just yet. Not saying he is gonel as I wouldn't have a clue, just saying don't get your hopes up.

Andy K

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Nothing there mate. Such a bad post

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07 Jul 2013 10:38:27
if xa goes to chelski I will be gutted, especially if we are in for him. I hope he comes back. probabaly the best midfield in the prem with him back with stevie. perfect for rodgers system too. who cares about the age policy when xa's name is gettign mentioned. pay the 10 mil and stop the messing around!
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07 Jul 2013 10:00:40
Hi Eds. Is it true BR is wanting to bring alonso back? BBC reporting both player and BR are keen but FSG not happy with his age? These guys need to recognise that a player doesn't just turn crap when he hits 30! If we don't sign him he'll go to Chelsea which will be hard to bear! Any insight appreciated. {Ed030's Note - I don't know what the make of it atm. }

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Just look at Pirlo. His game does not rely on pace and he just seems to go on and on. As much as I like Lucas, we need our technically best player in the holding role and Alonso fits the bill. Failing that, BR needs to address it with someone else this summer. Allen will never be good enough for it and Hendo is better utilised higher up the pitch. The other option would be to drop SG back into that role and bring in another CAM.
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To G did you watch a match atol last year bud? SG played a deep lying playmaker for most of the seasaon. that's why I don't really see where Alonso fits in. Lucas is one of the best DM in world football for me. And people how don't think he is are mad.

Scottybhoy 1888

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I would believe this story more if it was the BBC reporting it, but it's from the gossip page by the mail on sunday. even if it's true and BR does want him, I can't see the owners agreeing to it, he is exactly the type of player this club needs right now to help us get into the top 4 and beyond. granty68

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Not going to happen, we want to be at the top but we want to do on the cheap.

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Ed030. You All do a great job on here. I need to ask you though sorry, do u expect us to still sign another attacking midfielder as an alt to mk.

Also I think ls could stay and we will have a great season

Snoop1979 {Ed030's Note - Possibly mate,A forward player. }

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07 Jul 2013 09:39:21
hi could you tell me when suarez is due back for training also when he does return will brenden be sitting him down for talks thanks {Ed002's Note - If he is still with the club, July 22.}

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07 Jul 2013 09:28:40
Hi Ed,

What are the chances of Alonso heading back?! Rumours circulating that he's available on a free and money from shelvey/carroll sale would finance a wealthy package deal?!

Your thoughts?

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07 Jul 2013 09:21:31
According to 101greatgoals, on Saturday Sky.de suggested that LFC had matched BVB's bid to Shaktar for HM. If that is the case then it would be up to the player to decide who to sign for. Haven't been able to find any report of this on Sky.de myself so take this with a pinch of salt.
Zari

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07 Jul 2013 09:16:45
As of this morning HM deal could still be possible. I'm personally tired of the constant speculation it's like hope a girl that probably only likes you as a friend will go out with you (Bad memories) if this goes on for the whole transfer window. OMG

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07 Jul 2013 09:03:44
Morning eds, just a quick question on MK potentially signing for Dortmund, if it comes down to a straight choice for the player, can Dortmund get anywhere near our offer of wages.
Matt2836 {Ed002's Note - We have no interest in discussing wages.}

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07 Jul 2013 08:47:06
Please say the rumours we want Xabi back are true.

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07 Jul 2013 08:02:57
Hi eds,

I have only one question for you: what are the chances of xabi Alonso coming home to anfield? Please reply, I would love him back at anfield cheers eds

Carlos. {Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}

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So your not saying he is deco not coming Ed? {Ed002's Note - No, Deco won't be coming.}

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Ahaha, nice one edd

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07 Jul 2013 05:13:39
If we are willing to stomp up 30 mill euros why dnt we go all out and buy jovetic? He can play cam too, c'mon lfc help us believe that your in this to win! {Ed002's Note - That is not going to happen.}

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What is the matter with the people/dreamers on here, sadly top players are obsessed with the misinterpreted Champions League - and the EPL certainly does not have the attraction and pulling power that La Liga and The Bundesliga have.
Very very few recognised world class players come to the EPL nowadays.

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07 Jul 2013 04:47:20
Liverpool's over-30s policy could scupper a move for Real Madrid's Xabi Alonso, 31, but manager Brendan Rodgers may bend the rules to land the Reds' former midfielder for £10m.

Mail on Sunday.

If we did get him back. Which I think would be great. Wouldn't it get a little crowded in midfield and on the bench?

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Question for the OP, if we did get Xabi Alonso back, which one of he or Gerrard sits on the bench? As they both occupy the same position!

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No they dont, do you not remember SG, Xabi and Masch together
Mike G

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Bringing back xabi would allow us to push gerrard forward into the hole behind a striker would be my guess

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I reckon getting Xabi back will end in tears.

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Simple answer is getting alonso back all but gurantees you champs league football he is that good no cm in premiership touches him!

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We would be able to push gerrard to CAM and put Xabi with Lucas, Same goes with Raticik.

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Too old move on BR move on

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If alonso is up for the move and is willing to take the pay cut then for a player of his quality 10 million isn't a lot. His game doesn't rely on power and sprints but on positioning, passing and creativity. Alonso is on par with the best midfielders in the world so I hope it happens.
derryred

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Agree with Brissie. Stevie and Xabi NOW play the same position, not the Stevie of old but the current one.

Andy K

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Andy K, that's what I meant. They currently play the same position now.

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07 Jul 2013 00:35:40
Hi All,

Sunday Times reporting BR is considering breaking current transfer policy by making a £10m bid for Xabi, I'm sure it's either just guesswork or complete BS, but just on the off chance has anyone else heard this recently?

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10 million for Xabi?

Bonkers!

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07 Jul 2013 00:45:34
Can't see anything on Sly Deutschland about us matching HM's fee.
I speak German pretty good and all I found was yesterday's story.
Lies and false rumours I'm guessing.

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07 Jul 2013 00:44:45
hi all just an ask but read earlier that we prob missed out on hm, but also said that we may of matched the Dortmund bid but never actually held talks with player or his agents this just seems a little disappointing as it was no secret we wanted him, i'd say fine if both clubs had talks and he chose them fine that's life but if it is the case then I find that a lttle frustrating because it is clearly an issue of putting in 21.5 mill bid and not getting talks instead of bidding 25 mill and getting it sorted just very frustrating to see another quality player go to another club, think we would of learnt our lessons by now not meaning to compare to others but when other clubs want a player they put in a appropriate bid and then move from there but we seem to talk a lot and get nowhere don't meen to sound negative as been happy with business we done so far but let's be honest signing of aspas alberta mignolet toure are good but wouldn't of had as much competition for there signature as hm, we need to move faster on these sort of players as there rnt that many about that would entertain us at the moment just gutted

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Seriously, what do LFC have to do to keep you all happy? I am getting well P*ssed off reading all this sh*te from so called fans. We have lost 50 MILLION a season for 3 years. Last year was a complete mess in the transfer market. However behind the scenes that has all been sorted. This year we have done our business early. We have brought in players (this is what fans have wanted to happen for years!) We missed out on HM because he was over priced. Yet there are still fans bitching and moaning why didn't we just nip down the ATM and withdraw another 4 million, just pocket money, yeah? GET A GRIP we are not owned by oil rich Billionaires. We are run like a business. The owners have bailed us out every year they have owned the club! As a 40 year LFC fan (born and bred) the modern day fans are really starting to wind me up. We pride ourselves on our support and history. Maybe some of these fans need to go back and re-learn what it is all about and quit the constant bitching. Some fans are beginning to sound like the (dare I say it. ) BITTERS across the park.
Tommy

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If you believe the media ( which I generally don't ) it was purely and simply down to his agent not wanting to talk to LFC. All he wanted was a move to BVB, and it is now down to BVB to come to an agreement with Shaktar on a fee.
Would be interesting to see if BVB try and get him on the cheap and Shaktar won't budge on the price though.

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Tommy, I think you need to wake up and smell the coffee! Fans are having a moan for one simple reason: it's not just four teams fighting for the top four places anymore, and if we can't compete in the transfer market then were not going to compete on the pitch! You mention history well its nice that fans like you and me were able to watch the history being made but the younger fans only get to hear about it so they get pretty frustrated year after year when were nowhere near competing for titles!

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And in regards to the owners so what if they have bailed us out. They knew what they were getting into when they bought us an if the club is not a sound financial investmest in th long run then they would have known. But in the short term we need to invest on the pitch. It is unrealistic to expect to find bargains all the time. If you want quality you must pay for it. I (like many other fans) will be really disappointed if we miss out on mkhitaryan. The owners need to splash the cash this summer an back Brendan like they did kenny.

Toccie Red {Ed002's Note - The owners were not aware of what a financial drain the club would become.}

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07 Jul 2013 00:09:06
Eds now it looks like Hm may not be happening would Rakitic be a suitable alternative

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07 Jul 2013 00:08:24
he is too passionate to be anything else than one of us I agree with some things he says but not to the extent he says but never the less its his opinion we all have one may that continue loving the banter tonight though

mayhem 1981

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07 Jul 2013 00:04:37
Hi eds! Great work on here! Just wondering what the chances are of resigning Fernando Torres? Mourinho doesn't seem keen so I don't imagine it would cost all that much? Also do you foresee any certain player as a back up as we didn't get HM? Thanks DS

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So he can warm our bench?
derryred

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How would he get in this team?

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06 Jul 2013 23:59:24
Bojan krkic has officially signed for Ajax on a one year loan. Could this possibly suggest Eriksen will be on the move?

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07 Jul 2013 00:01:57
Is Digne's deal now off? If still available would be a good addition and provide competition in the left back birth.

If not there's always Moreno of Seville, who would also provide competition. Seville are in severe financial trouble and a reasonable fee would persuade them to part with the youngster.

Would also hope we bring in Alderweireld from Ajax along with Eriksen which would be roughly a combined fee of 22-25 million.

Surely that's great business for two such young quality players who know each others game, and would be coming in with confidence from their current success'.

Another midfielder worth a look at would be Banega of Valencia still only 24 and available for 8 million. Could be a gamble but he's a quality player.

Still hopeful Mkhitaryan will sign for us ahead of Dortmund. Not going to claim I know anything about is player, but seems to be good from clips and have faith in clubs targets.

I just really hope all the above are targets. When it comes to outs I think we all expet Jones, Spearing, Pacheco, Coates, Assiaidi, Downing, Skrtle and Suarez to leave.

This could give us in region of 75 million. That would cover the fees alone for the above. With funds for one or two others. This isn't counting the fees received for Carroll or Shelvey which is roughly 22 million.

Another option I would like us to explore would be Feyenoord's willing to part with De Vrij. In Assiaidi we have a player that interests them and say him and 12-15 million may get us De Vrij.

Jonesred.

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