Liverpool Banter Archive April 07 2017

 

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07 Apr 2017 22:53:21
We haven't won a PL game away in 2017. Any thoughts? My worry is that we still haven't recovered from our dreadful January and February form despite results suggesting otherwise.

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07 Apr 2017 23:06:51
Mane will be a big miss and it proved in Jan. I can't pretend but without him we don't look like the team that scores for fun. Coutinho seems doubtful for the match which leaves two top scorers out from the side. Stoke is a good side who has some decent players who could do a job at home.

This won't be easy. We should have beaten Bournemouth and take a point at stoke. Time for a lot of under performing over rated players to step up and prove a point. We cannot rely on players that are injured.


08 Apr 2017 00:18:04
First time poster here and really hate to be negative which I am probably going to be but I really have a bad feeling that we will just fall apart now and end up outside the top 4. We have enough ready made excuses which I don't buy, mane, lallana, hendo and now coutinho. We should still have more then enough to see these 7 games out but I have a bad feeling that we will capitulate.
As I said first time poster but and I really hope im proved wrong.


{Ed007's Note - Welcome aboard mate.}

08 Apr 2017 00:29:24
Cheers ed007, this site has been my bible for years. Great work from all of you guys.


08 Apr 2017 01:22:19
Agree with you for once or twice harry lol. We can't rely on injured players anymore, time for underperforming players to step up and be counted.


08 Apr 2017 04:25:10
Here's a positive thought I've not seen any other ponder, not to play down to much manes absence could be, have others considered that our poor form could have happened even if mane had been available? That we could be over that poor form as a whole and could just limp over the line for cl? Truth as seen by all with our own eyes mane is a major player in the way we play football but we can't be that dependent on 1 player as per Gerrard eras at times, if we do struggle itl be the impact of losing 3 of our key players LALLANA Hendo and mane, maybe others will finally step up, grab a chance given, itl be a roller coaster ride I can guess that much, I mean when have we ever done things the easy way? Exactly ha.


08 Apr 2017 07:16:58
We had a shocking January but it came down to more than Mane and just as much due to Origi and Sturridge failing to step up, Coutinho and Llalana injuries and Can having a poor run.

In this run in I hope we see Llalana and Wijnaldum back together with either Can or Hendo sitting deep, that will help with creativity from midfield, then I hope Coutinho hits form with Firmino as they been threatening to do and Origi and Sturridge perform better this time. We have enough talent to still expect to pick up points despite a tough run of injuries, just need Llalana and Coutinho back on form asap IMO.


08 Apr 2017 10:16:10
I think it was in large part down to confidence and mentality. We had a tough December and got some great results. Our opponents were perceived as "weaker" making us complacent. Combine that with the loss of Mane. Then suddenly these well organised "weaker" opponents start battling and going for us and we panic. Then we lose confidence.
We lacked leadership in January, more than we missed Mane IMO.


08 Apr 2017 12:55:25
Zimbo,

We don't have enough games left for all this to happen. Henderson and Mane out for the season. Lallana is a touch and go ( Could miss a lot more games than we predict) So what's left? I am praying Sturridge remains fit for the remainder and prove why he is the best CF at the club. He could definitely score out from nothing!


07 Apr 2017 20:25:32
It doesn't matter who we sign. They will be bashed just like any other player when mistakes happen. I remember years ago watching an England side with Darren Anderton. He was an okay player but the bashing he was receiving during a game was astonishing. He then went on to score in that game and he was the best player ever.
We all want the best for Liverpool but what I don't want to see is the anxiety that is fed through from fans then transfer it's way to the players. This is so clearly evident when we play at the moment. By all means when mistakes happen, swear and curse as much as you like but remember they're just mistakes. I mean I put petrol in my diesel car yesterday. My misses called me all the names under the sun. She still loves me though. Perhaps we should forgive and love our players abit more too. 😊.

Believable6 Unbelievable6

07 Apr 2017 22:46:23
Did the Car work mate?


07 Apr 2017 20:22:41
I find it mind boggling that people are pissing and moaning when we are 3rd in the League.

Next season if we qualify for CL then obviously we will need to take things to the next level to keep up with the pace by having a good summer and strengthening the squad with first team quality players but it will be interesting to see how Chelsea cope under Conte with Europe added to the fixture list. He took over a fine squad whereas Klopp took over a squad which was not willing to be touched with a bargepole by any top manager.

Klopp is best suited to the job. He is someone that does not need to buy his way to success.

Believable6 Unbelievable5

07 Apr 2017 20:55:30
I totally agree, Klopp is best man for the job!

The whining is probably because since carragher the defensive side of our game has been appalling. we have an attack, when fully fit, that can challenge for the title but the defensive side of our game is a shambles and that's frustrating. we can't just say, " we will learn from this", at some point we have to actual learn!

Read Carra's interview in Echo.


07 Apr 2017 21:01:07
It was touched by a top manager tho max

Or see you saying we got 2nd best?


07 Apr 2017 22:48:26
None are moaning. We have issues at the back and it has been same from years. Did we learn? No. Would we learn? We don't know! We were sitting at the top back in December FYI. How did we crumble to 3rd?


07 Apr 2017 23:08:07
Spot on, boys. People just moan without any clarity nor logic nor perspective in their moaning. can someone please tell Carra to keep a lid on and stop with the constant moaning he does in the media regarding LFC.

Just read in the Mail that "our defensive mistakes are making me angry" and all that other nonsense, saying we will miss top 4 and calling us the 6th best squad in the PL where as our best 11 are undefeated vs the 5 best squads.

This is why his comments lack perspective. The guy just talks way too much. I'm not saying he should not speak his opinion BUT it seems to be going over board with his comments.

It seems he has caught the bug of Murphy's Law (anything that can go wrong, will go wrong" so when it happens, they will say I told you so in a bid of self presevation. That is the mentality we have to change. GET A GRIP, Folks!


08 Apr 2017 06:36:24
All I am saying is that we are lucky to have a quality manager like Klopp Supermane.


08 Apr 2017 09:09:14
But sounds like you are saying because top managers wouldn't touch us we ended up with klopp. that's all bud.


08 Apr 2017 09:29:52
Nah, not the case. Klopp is a top manager and we struck luck at getting him. He probably had loads of job offers on the table and chose us. The likes of Ancelotti would have been nowhere possible, even Guardiola.

That is my point so we need to stick with him and give him a proper chance to pull things right. Not sure there is another manager who would have been more suitable for us.


07 Apr 2017 19:43:19
Hi Eds.
I was wondering about you thoughts on something with regard to the types of players and leaders we need to target for the first team in the upcoming transfer window.

A few seasons ago I watched an interview with a current Liverpool player (who is now playing well) . He hadn't ripped up any trees in his first season and was talking about how it took him time to settle in to a new club and area etc etc etc.

It was a little frustrating to listen to as he wasn't a kid anymore. It made me think of Suarez and how as a younger man he moved from South America to a totally different culture and football world in Holland and thrived.
Firmino also thrived in Germany.
Both succeeded in countries that were very very different from their latin homes.
To me this shows a real mental toughness and desire to succeed, ie they are winners. Gunslingers if you will 😊.

As we need some more mentally tough players shouldn't this be a target for use now. South Americans who have moved out of their comfort zones and succeeded in Northern or Eastern European Leagues with a decent standard?

Believable2 Unbelievable0

{Ed001's Note - you can't tell like that as they have a family around them that is just as important. They might not settle as their family is unhappy, rather than because they personally have any issues in the area.

What the club needs to do more is create a support network around them. I also believe that, particularly with new players, it is important to get players involved in community work for the club. Not just because it keeps them busy and out of trouble, and because it helps good causes, but also because it gives them a chance to build a connection with the club's fans.}

07 Apr 2017 21:09:44
Tks Ed01.


{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

07 Apr 2017 22:33:18
Like Sakho and his commitment to the clubs community work?


{Ed001's Note - not sure how that is relevant? He did not do anything like the amount I think a player should be doing, it is telling that people think he did a lot. It shows how spoilt the modern day player is that what he did is considered as outstanding.}

07 Apr 2017 13:33:10
The more I see of the difference between Klavan and Sakho the more I can't help but think Klopp has made a mistake.
For Bournemouth's second goal Klavan still doesn't know where the ball is whilst Josh King is already shooting. Meanwhile, down at Palace Sakho is clearing anything and everything that comes near him.
I do understand that Palace play more defensive than we do, but making blocks and aerial challenges is effective however you play.
Lovren - Matip - Sakho - Gomez in rotation for CB is a superb set up to have moving forward.
Ed/ s, do you see any chance swaying Klopp towards leaving this loan period as Sakho's punishment or do we still expect him to be sold?

Believable7 Unbelievable8

{Ed002's Note - The club are actively trying to sell Sakho because Klopp doesn't want him. Klaven is the player Klopp wanted and got - and I am not aware of any efforts by Liverpool to move him on.}

07 Apr 2017 15:00:49
Klavan is the player klopp wanted and got. to replace kolo as 4th choice at the time leaving matip lovren sahko Lucas Gomez. Then sakho burnt his bridges and was shipped away leaving matip lovren klavan Lucas and Gomez in that order (gomez might have been 3rd or 4th choice if he hadn't been injured) . Klopp got his man he got his bargain centre back to fill in when there's injuries £7m and about 45k a week. There's no problem with klavan in my books he's what you'd expect from a player in his position of the pecking order. See the likes of jones/ rojo, mertersaker/ gabriel, wimmer/ dier, terry/ zouma/ ake, all of cities are at a similar standard. Don't get me started on Everton's back up pairings.


{Ed002's Note - Klopp made it clear he wanted 4 centre backs - that is what he has. Sakho was never included.}

07 Apr 2017 15:18:31
Yeah I don't care what anyone says, he has replaced one of the best CB's in the league with one that is bang average and expects our defence to improve? Matip is a constant injury concern meaning we are going to continue to be left with Klavan for the foreseeable future. I genuinely believe with Sakho in the side we would have at the very least 6 more points.


{Ed002's Note - That was the choice of the manager - he gave you Karius as well. Caulker the previous year.}

07 Apr 2017 15:37:39
Well i really hope Klopp revisits the CB situation. Matip is the only decent option we have while Gomez is still young. Lovren would be a decent 3rd choice but Klavan has to go. Simply an awful defender already past his best and nowhere near good enough for LFC or the BPL.


07 Apr 2017 15:56:05
Klavan was brought to replace Sakho while Matip replaced Skrtel and Gomez replaced Toure. Stop brining excuses. We have 4 CB and we have conceded she'd loads of goals!


07 Apr 2017 16:09:32
I actually don't think Klavan or Lovren are as terrible as people on here make out.

I think the biggest problem is that neither of them are blessed with pace yet we play a very high line without an out-and-out midfield destroyer, with two bang average wing backs constantly leaving them exposed. Yet we still regularly restrict teams to less than 3 or 4 decent shots on target, which usually results in us conceding because Mignolet is the only keeper in the Premier league to have both rubber wrists and rubber ankles!

When Sakho was here we all said he was error prone. In Aggers final years we all said he was error prone. Skrtel also deemed a liability just a year after being voted player of the season under Dlaglish/ Clarke. Carragher even was dropped in his second to last year after struggling.

How many centre backs do we have to go through before we actually look at the rest of the defensive unit and point the finger at the whole picture. Not to mention the defensive and goalkeeper coaching.

Mignolet, Clyne and Milner are all not really up to the task. Just look at our keepers and full backs in recent years; Jones, Reina, Doni, Itandje, Cavalieri, Manninger, Karius, Mignolet; Moreno, Insua, Aurelio, Konchesky, Dossena, Cissokho; Johnson, Arbeloa, Clyne, Degen, Kelly, Flanagan.

Now honestly tell me that our recent centre backs are as bad as those listed above; Skrtel, Agger, Lovren, Sakho, Kyriakgos, Carragher, Klavan. Personally, I do not think we have ever properly replaced Reina (pre 2010 form), Finnan or Riise. Until we do no centre back is going to look good for us. Period.

Defence gets fixed as a unit, or not at all.


07 Apr 2017 16:11:53
And mane ed. let's not forget that. Wijnaldum for that matter and matip 😊.


{Ed002's Note - Matip really isn't all that. Has Wijnaldum justified his price?}

07 Apr 2017 16:39:26
Matip has been a breath of fresh air in most games. And Gini has gotten better as the season progressed. One mistake last game that costed us but other than that he's been pretty darn good. And I think he will only get better. Mane speaks for himself. I'm just saying a free transfer for a center back like matip was a steal. He's not the BEST out there but he's pretty darn good. And seeing what others, like stones and Luiz, went for makes matip look the bargain of the century.


07 Apr 2017 16:40:23
I agree the caulker signing was baffling but it wasn't that big of a deal. The Karius signing wasn't that bad, but the way he has been managed has been pretty woeful.


07 Apr 2017 16:42:29
MK just look at King's goal again, it was the most predictable turn and finish yet if Klavan had been given another 2 seconds to get his foot in the way he'd have still been nowhere near it despite being stood right next to him. Honestly one of the most pathetic attempts at blocking the goal i've ever seen that in the end was responsible for us dropping two points.


07 Apr 2017 18:13:09
Klavan may not be perfect but would have him as backup compared to Skrtel any day of the week. It is clear we need better adept CB's but who else was Klopp going to sign at £4.2m which is what Klavan cost. It is not like he was going to be a stater for us but using my eyes he is an upgrade on Skrtel.

Our biggest problem is that Lovren is injury prone and seems like Matip has his own problems. At this point I cannot rule out Klopp signing another CB in the summer. Gomez recently returned from a serious injury and hopefully fior his part he can stay fi going forwrad.

Like MK Scouser points out, our fullbacks are average. Milner never going to be a long term solution but has been ok at LB, better than Moreno. The less I say about Clyne the better. He is mediocre.

Attacking fullbacks are an important ingredient in Klopp's setup as they provide the width so hopefully the summer Klopp signs two quick and creative attacking fullbacks to take one step closer to completing the puzzle.


07 Apr 2017 18:31:16
Why do we need a back-up in Klavan who will never push Lovren? We need a player to push and displace Lovren.


07 Apr 2017 18:38:55
I don't care how good a player looks on match of the day, if he is a disruptive influence and undermines the manager then there is no place for them in the team.

It's as simple as that.

We may sign some defenders in the summer, things move quickly and circumstances change. Stop panicking because you already think Klopp won't sign the players you want.

Chill out, what will be will be.


07 Apr 2017 18:58:56
You guys are like rabbits, on and on and on and on, you must sit and talk to yourselves in your mirrors, no one is listening forget sakho he's not wanted and no matter how much you complain or watch match of the day he ain't coming back.
Gini and Matip yes have made mistakes had bad games but have also had great games its their first season at the club and they in my opinion show signs i like and i think they can be at the club for long term.
Karius is as the ed has said the number 1 keeper at the club but i think it will be next season but you guys all complain he is not good enough do you all forget what de gea went through when he arrived he's young needs time to acclimatise to get use to english football and i hope we end with a keeper like de gea.
But you guys are so fickle you jump on the backs of every and any player making a mistake and if a guy looks good on match of the day you think he's the second coming.
a good example is brandy a lot of people here thought he wasnt good enough to slight etc but once it was said that he had a deal with bayern set up you all went on about how we missed another player.
for the umpteenth time get behind your players and managers stop moaning.
oh and after watching the stoke press conference even although he said couthinho is feeling better i get the feeling he might not be playing so you will all get your wish to see some kids, which i don't know but looks a distinct possibility.


07 Apr 2017 19:16:12
Imagine an alternative reality. Sakho, despite having been given 2 or 3 chances to clean up his act by Klopp continues to be undisciplined off the pitch (and I suspect we don't really know the half of it) .
However as he needs the defender defender the season Klopp forgives him again and again (as many on here seem to think he should have) .
Sakho continues to mess around (he had established a pattern of behaviour after all) . Other players (especially younger players) after a while see this and start to think, maybe I don't have to live such a disciplined boring life off the pitch. Maybe Klopp's rules aren't really rules you really need to follow. Why should I try so hard if others don't.

What happens is the performance throughout the squad drops and Liverpool would be mid table now wondering what went wrong with the Klopp appointment.

Can we stop the Sahko back nonsense please. He messed around a new manager who had to show all the players the rules mean something for the good of all the squad.


07 Apr 2017 19:22:57
Sures he's not 😊

Wijanldum. If pogbas worth 90 million then wijis worth 25 minimum 🖒.


07 Apr 2017 19:30:51
The real AG, Sakho was bound to partner Matip this season until Sakho made an absolute clown of himself and the club. That left us with Lovren partnering Matip this season ad Klavan coming in for Skrtel. Gomes was still injured so Klopp had to go sign somebody who was willing to take the back seat i. e. Klavan.

It is not like Klopp could go sign the next best thing as we finished 8th last season and doubt any top CB's were interested in joining us unless we were willing to pay over the odds. Yes Klavan has not been to everyones taste but he has had some good performances this season ans £4.2m compared to paying £60m for another Southampton player seemed to be a reasonable move considering that we cannot ask someone like Godin to join our ranks.

Klavan > Skrtel so disater in that case averted.


07 Apr 2017 19:40:51
Spot on, Fitzy. Shows the moral compass (or lack thereof) that some people have in their quest to ignore a player's repeated atrocities and blatant disrespect for authority of the manager, just so we can get a couple of clean sheets to the detriment of team harmony and team spirit.

The worst thing is that, it's not like Sahko (who I am a fan of by the way) is the second coming of Paulo Maldini. He has played here for 3 seasons where we conceded 150 goals in the PL. So in what way was he a needed defender to shore up the back line when he was part of the problem? His fan base can't answer that question cos all they see is what he's doing (under different system and diff manager) at the GREAT Crystal Palace.

Memo to Sahko's glee club: Klopp wants rid of Sahko cos he's cancer to the squad and in the DR, not due to his ability. He listens to no one and has NO respect for authority and this since his days at PSG. If you like him so much, form your own club and make him your first signing. Till then, stop defending the indefensible cos you are embarrassing yourselves each time you do.


07 Apr 2017 19:57:04
HX, everyone on here was singing from the tops of the hills about Ben Gibson just yesterday who was at fault for 2 goals against Hull in midweek.

Not saying that Klavan is better, Gibson is clearly the better player over all. My point there is that one mistake or one bad game doesn't define a player. Klavan was part of the team that shut out Manchester City earlier in the season and was arguably the best player on the day. He is an experienced back up, and I have no problems with him in our squad.

If anyone on here has ever played football, just imagine being in defence with Clyne trying to stop crosses from the right, Milner trying to stop crosses from the left, Mignolet organising everything, and all in a system where pretty much every player is charging forward at full pelt to press the ball. If that press gets beaten it is basically just our centre backs vs the opposition attack! You could put Ramos and Boateng in our defence and even they would get exposed at times in our team.

Klopp has picked his 4 centre backs. We need to accept that to be honest because it is unlikely we will sign anyone this summer for that position. Klopp hasn't however signed a single full back for us yet, or given his choice of keeper a sustained run in the team (mainly to protect Karius from the abhorrent abuse he was getting from absolutely everyone) . He is trying to build a solid defensive unit and we are pointing the finger at the one area he has addressed. So really that finger (if you genuinely believe centre back is our main issue) should be pointing at the guy who picked them; Klopp.

I get it, Klavan made a mistake and it is currently very raw to some people as we dropped points. I just don't get this massive over reaction. He struggles with pace in general, but as a back up he is easily adequate. The focus with regards to centre back should be getting Lovren/ Matip fit, and developing the likes of Gomez and Masterson for the future.

I swear to god people, after the Derby their was literally a post on here about us being back in the title race. A very serious post which got more agrees than disagrees might I add. Fast forward 4 days and our whole team is completely terrible and we won't even get a CL spot because Stoke and West Brom are coming up?! Holy Christ, fickle is an understatement. This is bi-polar.


07 Apr 2017 20:36:01
Fans are nervous.
We had a great chance to nail down a top 4 place and we tossed it away in the last few minutes in contrast to Spurs who stepped up in injury time to turn a defeat into victory.

That's behind the labile emotions, people do need to relax a bit more. 🤠.


07 Apr 2017 22:02:57
I agree here with Ed 002 I don't see the obsession with Matip, not bad, but not great. The best we have but we can do better! Not a carragher or a hyppia by any means though.


07 Apr 2017 23:13:53
No way, Welsh. Matip has been a consistent performer in Germany for years. he's been more than solid in his first season for us and that is a fact. Can he get better? Yes. Is he great? No and neither was Carra. In fact, Carra does not possess the natural ability that Matip has.

He has a desire to win, do what he was told, and play wherever and that is what got him through his career. Matip needs to improve his fitness along with Lovren and we'll be fine. We are looking to bring in a LCB which is why Gibson and Nastasic have been scouted.


07 Apr 2017 23:19:41
It's his first season. Hyypia and Carra both struggled in their first season.
Give Matip a friggin chance.


08 Apr 2017 00:16:02
Klavan lost track of the ball for the 2nd goal but the player on the near post only got half a header on the first ball in.
It should be our no 1 priority to sign a keeper and a center hslf who can dominate the box and clear the first ball as anything can happen on the 2nd ball, with all the players in front of the goal any deflection could result in a goal.
Cut the threat at source.


08 Apr 2017 13:50:03
The keeper had nothing to do with the second goal and Klopp will not sign a GK cos he still has confidence that Karius will come good BUT it is up to Karius to take his chance.


09 Apr 2017 14:43:38
Is it possible to have a bi polar team that has wonderful highs against better opposition and agonising, lethargic lows against the rest?


07 Apr 2017 10:33:09
A question for ed002 if I may?
I see a lot of transfer business happening between clubs from other countries happening quite alot. I. e. german clubs usually buying players from other german clubs and not going abroad to shop for players. But here in England we seem to mostly shop abroad for talent, do you believe this is because clubs get priced out by other clubs in England or is it due to more respect other teams have for one another in other countries or is it the buyout clauses? Sorry to throw a random question at you but was just something that intrigued me.
Many thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - It is an interesting subject and there are a number of reasons - some I won't think of but I will try and provide some rationale. In terms of pure numbers (and putting aside less major leagues such as Scotland, the Championship, Cyprus and Luxembourg), the Premier League is some distance ahead of the main protagonists in Europe. Right now England has around 70% foreign players with Portugal, Belgium and Italy all around 50% to 55% and Russia, Spain, the Netherlands and France all around the 40% give or take. You would need to check the exact figures with the CIES Football Observatory reports which come out with boring statistics all too often - try not to read too much in to any you stumble across. The reasons behind this include (but are not limited to): (a) There is far more money in the Premier League so clubs can cherry pick players from around the world. (b) The Premier League is attractive because of the profile and media coverage. (c) English clubs often price English players out of a move to other English sides. (d) European sides (e.g. Italy) have to work with in a far more demanding quota system. (e) Some countries have the benefit of agreements (e.g. Spain which has the Cotonou Agreement where African and Caribbean players are not counted against non-EU quotas) that are beneficial to clubs. (f) Some countries have quotas which are game based rather than squad based (e.g. Ukraine limits non homegrown players on the pitch to seven etc.). (g) Some countries have clubs that realise players from their home nation most suit the type of game played in that country and there are benefits in terms of moving players between clubs - as opposed to taking a youngster out of his comfort zone of sunny South America to move to the grim, wet and cobbled streets Northwest of England where there would be a significant cultural change, smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street, little chance of football at the highest level and only chips and fried curry to eat.

So it is a number of issues, many of which are not reflected in the data and statistical analyses you will come across - quotas, Kolpak ruling etc.. This is one of the major reasons you will never see a level playing field for the professional game - ll of these anomolies would need to be worked out before you can start to get the balance right. England would need to give up the media money it has - or all media money would need to go via FIFA or UEFA and be distributed. Then you would need to address the disparity of other income from commercial routes - and that certainly isn't going to happen.}

07 Apr 2017 12:49:27
Can't beat a bit of fried curry 😂.


07 Apr 2017 13:16:49
Just a note of this - the BPL number of homegrown players is bad but it is not as bad as the official figures say. This is because the official figures count the number of English players in the BPL which isn't fair because we have Welsh teams in our league as well - a few years ago our league was 10% Welsh teams! The number is actually closer to 60% rather than 70% when you count English and Welsh players.

TBH we are actually about 50-50 if we looked at all the players eligible to play for England and Wales at the start of their career - the British Isles relationship with Scotland, Northern Island and the Republic of Ireland making so many players eligible to play for multiple countries. Obviously that still puts us way behind the kind of numbers that other top leagues have, but it's not quite the unclimbable mountain of being twice as bad as them either.


{Ed002's Note - That is an entirely different matter and not the question. The figures about homegrown are nothing to do with Nationality at all. Again it is nothing to do with the British - you seem to be trying to twist my answer. It was obviously a waste of my time typing.}

07 Apr 2017 13:52:41
Thanks for your time in such a detailed answer ed002. It was just something that took my interest as I seen bayern are getting Sule and can't remember the other player and I think they look most likely to bring in brandt. I know not many English players moved abroad and as I thought seems money is the issue. Again thanks for your answer hope you well and still provide many of us "football fans" the answer to our questions.


{Ed002's Note - Plenty of clubs organise transfers in advance of the window and they discuss options on a regular basis.}

07 Apr 2017 15:12:51
You can get some good curries in lancs.


07 Apr 2017 19:55:12
Thanks ed002, you're a ledge 😘
🤠.


06 Apr 2017 23:55:22
I read in the Daily Mail that if the Manchester clubs win their games in hand over Liverpool they will go above them. Very clever thinking but as they have to play each other this is an impossibility. As it stands the maximum points that the top 6 can achieve is as follows:
Chelsea 96, Tottenham Hotpur 89, Manchester City 82, Liverpool, Arsenal, and Manchester United 81. At least one of the two Manchester teams will lose 2 points when they play each. The same applies to Arsenal and Manchester United who have to play each other. Manchester United in fact still have FOUR matches against Top 6 clubs. The main thing is of course that Liverpool must win the remaining games. As it stands we are already assured of European football - hopefully it will be the Champions' League.

Believable7 Unbelievable1

07 Apr 2017 06:51:14
We won't suddenly change now we have 7 games to go, we cannot beat the lesser teams.

West Brom match will be a bloody nightmare.


07 Apr 2017 07:12:58
I can see the headlines

"Daily Mail in misleading article shocker"

😁🤠.


07 Apr 2017 08:16:14
The next two games are critical and not sure we're tough enough to battle it out with Stoke and West Brom.
A win at stoke and point at West Brom will do but 2 draws or worse and it's out of our hands then.


07 Apr 2017 08:28:12
Stoke at best will be a draw I can't see any points taken at West Brom away

Lfc lack steel and seeing games out - but honestly that is just 2 areas of a long long list of weaknesses lfc have
I don't really care if lfc reach top 4 or not il still support them
But tell me this. how do u expect klopp to be any different next year when he makes such stupid decisions
With the left back area klavan the sakho thing . tactics . he has Cosr lfc a lot of points just as much as individual players like the goalkeepers
I just don't think he is going to make lfc any different

I still prefer more defensive managers or really strict organisers I think they would be a better fit.


07 Apr 2017 09:14:58
Have you ever considered being a motivational speaker, realtalk?


07 Apr 2017 09:49:43
UTD could reach the CL by winning the EL which is far more easier than league games! That's second trophy in one season for them. This leaves us and Arsenal to fight for the 4th spot. City are destined for the 3rd place or higher.


07 Apr 2017 09:51:48
Another 12 points and we will be there, more than confident.


07 Apr 2017 09:52:40
1 game at a time.


07 Apr 2017 09:53:25
The Manchester clubs have to play each other so at least one of them can't go above us.


07 Apr 2017 09:50:51
We have 7 matches, 21 points available.

The most important thing is that we have the points on the board and City, UTD and Arsenal have to catch up irrespective of having games in hand. The pressure is on. Only City can go one point ahead of us. Arsenal and UTD will be level if they had to win their 2 games in hand. Are UTD going to beat Chelsea and City? Arsenal still have to play Spurs, UTD and Everton. Points will most definitely be dropped.

All roads lead to Anfield for a top 4 spot and we have a better goal difference than all of the three above mentioned teams too.

At this point it looks like UTD and Arsenal will be battling it out for 5th spot.

You can only take it one match at a time. Stoke up next and we are more than capable of beating them.


07 Apr 2017 10:06:47
Seriously why does anybody read the daily fail?


07 Apr 2017 10:28:42
Thankfully, neither West Brom nor Stoke are, or play like, bottom half teams.


07 Apr 2017 11:00:14
Daily mail readers are almost as bad as people that read the sun.


07 Apr 2017 13:29:55
I may be wrong but didn't we beat both stoke and west brim . I was more worried that we would loose to Bournemouth and you knew watching the game and knowing how we play that bouncing ball in the box late in the game was ending up in the net.

The top four is the place we should be at the end of the season . If we do great . If we don't I still love Liverpool and will continue to read this site and watch every minute I can.

Spurs are going well and I think will end 2nd. City united and arsenal will all drop points in the run in.
Games in hand mean nothing. We have the points from those games already.

Let's back the team be positive and enjoy watching this great club play.


07 Apr 2017 15:08:37
We are ahead of the competition and have a better run in - we should absolutely be confident of a top 4, however Mane is a big loss and really hope Llalana, Matip and Hendo come back soon to help offset that as collectively they are as important. Would like to see Origi upfront and Firmino on the right. Sturridge as impact sub.

Go get us home Klopp! We believe (except for Redtalk)


07 Apr 2017 15:42:56
We have the points in hand, Utd and Arsenal don't. They have to still go out and compete for those points and they are no cake walks either. Utd have City and Saints on the road. Good luck getting two wins when you can't score goals. Arsenal have LC (on a great run at home) and Saints on the road (where they never win) .

Also, City had a game in hand vs Stoke and got a point. That should tell you that games in hand mean NADA. We have the points, they don't so we are in the box seats right now. Their schedules are also brutal especially Utd's so top 4 ain't happening for them.

The media has some type of issue with LFC getting top 4 cos they always wanna make Klopp look bad hence, they compare his record (a pathetic argument) to BR's to make it look like he's failing, which he is NOT. Top 4 is up to us and us alone and if we handle our business 9easier said than done) we will get it.


07 Apr 2017 17:54:30
You know what? I'd rather have United run of games than ours, simply because you can almost guarantee we'll turn up against the bigger teams. Plus we're unbeaten against the top 6 this year, aren't we?


 
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