Liverpool Banter Archive April 07 2013
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07 Apr 2013 23:48:16
Carroll for Diame be a Great bit of buiness
08 Apr 2013 10:33:08
yup, he costs 3.5 million and carroll 17 million
GREAT buisness. tell me where did you go to buisness school?
Malak
07 Apr 2013 23:47:40
How's fat spam said they had more chances? And bang on about a pen-no way! But ours was Sam!
08 Apr 2013 01:23:49
haha are you wearing red tinted specs or what, it was the other way round, west ham shouldve had a pen and gerrard was obv looking for the pen but englands captain can't be shown as a diver now can he. sturridge was clearly offside after a handball by suarez. btw was funny outsinging your heartless fans all game today at the morgue {Ed001's Note - what pen should West Ham have had? You need to watch it again, Tomkins clearly made a second movement and went for Gerrard after the ball. The diver was your man Diame, who threw himself to the ground every time anyone breathed near him. Tomkins taking 20 mins to walk off the pitch was embarrassing too.}
Lad above clown!-insult backfired through a field of your bias or just lack of knowledge
07 Apr 2013 23:38:29
How deluded is Fat Sam? What game did he watch?!
But Rodgers also saw a strange game!
07 Apr 2013 23:37:10
Brendans H/T team talk should've been a drawing of a Goal and the words-"STOP Fooking about, and stick it between posts!"
07 Apr 2013 23:35:45
How olds Berbatov?-squad player?
07 Apr 2013 23:34:41
Well. here we go again!
This is not a work in progress mantra.
This is not a we were unlucky mantra.
This is not a we have a very thin squad mantra.
This is not a we are going to have a few up and down games mantra!
These are excuses by a manager who has made them to deflect attention for his own shortcomings as the manager of our club.
We are simply not good enough and posters believing we can still make the Champions League are simply deluded.
Frankly we aren't even good enough to make the Europa League!
We were playing at home -to a team that has not beaten us home for nigh on 50 years with a dreadful manager.
We again dd not play well for most of the game, we were sluggish, disinterested and lazy.
Yes we tried in the second half for a bit - but we were poor again.
So what if West Ham United parked the bus - they were always going to do that. ergo the team shape and tactics should have been prepared for that.
To all the pro BR brigade, do you really think he will guide us to the top again?
We have no mental toughness nor a winning mentality.
BR says he is there to 'educate players' - what an absolute load of drivel. He has never managed a top team and has never won anything. He is simply out of his depth.
FSG has pumped a lot of money into the club and whilst they have made mistakes they are good owners.
They should know that we were once a top top team, admired and loved all over the world. We were a club of glory, tradition and silverware. We are still that. but we do not have a winning mentality. A toughness that in the midst of adversity will come out as winners.
We have a couple of world class players - but we need players who are world class who know amd want to win.
They need to consider whether a top flight manager should be recruited or an older wiser head should be employed to give some guidance to BR.
BR does not inspire confidence, his team selection and tactics are questionable.
But I don't solely blame him because ultimately at least 6 or 7 players show no passion, desire nor application on the pitch.
We are not good enough!
M
Bang on
Too true.
I am sick and tired of the same boring excuses season after season.
07 Apr 2013 23:29:18
Ed, why have a few people mentioned about Williams almost being finalised? Is someone pulling wool over their eyes?
An Dun Red {Ed002's Note - That must be it.}
07 Apr 2013 23:12:13
THIS isn't FIFA. Rodgers needs time, we are in a transitional period don't foget and rodgers has done a slap up job and couldn't have asked for much more, in brendon we trust, next season believe me when I say we will be up there! come on GURU
YNWA
07 Apr 2013 23:01:03
Evenin Eds,
With QPR more or less facing the inevitability of relegation what would the availability of Remy be and do you think Liverpool may be interested? Maybe a bit of MOTD fever but the lads a Champions League player not a Championship.
Muller {Ed001's Note - it is believed he has a clause enabling him to move for a low price if they go down but I have not heard of any interest from us. Not so sure he is a Champions League player, his touch is poor, which top class players should never be able to be accused of.}
08 Apr 2013 07:40:38
Ed get a grip. his touch is poor.
what was caroll and borini. excellent first touch.
You don't like some players. simple. why not accept that.
". I don't like Remy. No question pls. "
Much better {Ed001's Note - why are you comparing him with those? Are you a bit simple? Or are you just too much a knob to read the post I was replying to? His touch is poor, he keeps giving away possession because, unless he is on the run, the ball tends to bounce off him. Nothing to do with whether I like him or not, he simply is not top class, like a Benzema or RVP. Now go and play elsewhere until schools are back, instead of wasting my time with imbecilic comments on here.}
08 Apr 2013 10:18:44
Ed. I do accept he is not top class like benzema or RVP.
which top mclass players are we attracting now?
you believe either benzema or higuain will join us?
If loic remy can score 10-15 goals a season, is he worth enough for a gamble for a very minimal fee?
I am not educated enough like you.
But you are just bluffing.
You clearly know none of the top class trikers will move to Liverpool this summer. nor you are ready to accept loic remy.
he is miles better than our third striker.
and when borini was signed. did you actually said his touch was outstanding and he is a top class triker like benzema? {Ed001's Note - I really don't see what Borini has to do with this at all, the question was whether we are interested in Remy or not. Remy is not a 3rd choice striker, his wages are too high for that, this 6 months with QPR will earn him on a par with Suarez over that time. So no, he would not be a minimal fee, he would cost a hell of a lot of money, for a player whose only real strength is in chasing a ball over top. He is not suited to holding the ball up and bringing other players into the game, but he is perfectly suited to quick counter attacking. We could do with improving that side of our game, but not by adding a one dimensional player, we should work with the players we have. No stop talking gibberish about Borini, he is nothing to do with this at all, you are obsessed lad. Just a whinger, always looking to whine about one player or another on every post.}
07 Apr 2013 23:23:23
I think gerrard should sign for city in the summer, he might have a chance of winning a premiership trophy, 23 years and counting.
Steve MCFC
Lol well done you won the league (and very luckily). Eighteen more to go before you start bragging.
Jimerny cricket {Ed002's Note - Man you are poor at banter - you need some quip or humourous remark - not just blurt of MF or whatever.}
City are challenging for major trophies, whereas Liverpool will be struggling to stay up when Suarez leaves
Steve MCFC
Wat happens when suga daddy leaves you, no more money, stupid wages, then back to administration for you guys. It will happen.
Gaz b
08 Apr 2013 09:56:19
what major trofies? please remind me?
out of the CL (actually finished last in your group)
The fa cup? that's right. good luck with that 'mate'
And I never ever say this, but I hope united tare you a new one today!
Also you think your arab owner will stick aroung like abrahamovic, then my 'friend' you are deluded.
Also Sergio Aguero & David Silva will propaby leave this summer. Good luck with the players brought in to replace them, propably just 2 new money grabbers. Do you actually think you are a real club? I mean give it 6-7 years and you will be in a catastrofy. Manchester city are the defenition of fickle fans and players! Good luck with that! Enjoy
Malak
So proud cites fan-you couldn't even fill your ground on your Titlle run in, which you hadn't done since black and white tv. And still wouldn't have without your owners
07 Apr 2013 22:56:54
Wat happened to us lfc fans when we lose its rodgers out time when we win he's a hero I thought we were the best fans in the world win/lose/draw we never slagged of our team why the sudden change rite were not the team we use to be but come on lads JON96
Realistic it ain't good enough mate
The above post " Realistic it ain't good enought"
We all know we are not good enough. that's why the new manager was brought to build up a team. and by any best teams logic it can't be build in a year or so. I know its hard to digest these results. but have patience. people whine that v had been keeping patience for past 23years. so its not rodgers fault he was ot managing us for past23 years. it has not been a year.
Post above did I mention 23 years? No you did. But your right doing so-Too long for a club like LFC. Thanks for bringing up-meant to say that
07 Apr 2013 22:56:23
Running Outve games Reds!Thank God Spurs scored late or 5th be gone aswell
07 Apr 2013 22:55:38
What do you do if your having (entirely forgivable) an off day Suarez?-You play it simple to a b oozy Red shirt! him, Enrique, Sturridge who had stinker -just didn't know meaning off pass to the man in space! All been watching Messi videos/Cruff/whoever
07 Apr 2013 22:52:25
What's this carp Chavski qpr and Everton doing-makeshift banners left on show-pathetic
07 Apr 2013 22:51:29
One forward two back Sickve it. Then puff of wind and half our players gone-Assaidi, Downing, Coutiniho, May have certain qualities but were being out muscled it's about a Blend Brendan!
Ok so u mean to say. get caroll back. who don't know how to play. or diame so called what most fans want. that guy was out of his every single strength by 70 min. what's the use to buy big muscled player when u know they aren't good enough for our style. agreed we need changes though.
07 Apr 2013 22:33:32
Tippy tippy no responsibility lightweight passionless (not caring about Europe). -850!quid next Season for THAT! Get Diame and Michu ffs!
I guess u r hodgson in disguise. tell the truth
07 Apr 2013 22:01:06
seems I have become a favourite here.
every time livrerpool loose or draw.
I loose my bet with my girlfriend.
and then screwed for one week.
The latter bit doesn't sound too bad.
The Jester
07 Apr 2013 23:15:06
harry you are like our special cousin
Never in a million years.
Malak
07 Apr 2013 21:46:48
I got quite a few responses to my last post, but it's too far down the page now to see my response, so I will make a new post. Simply put, if you think Rodgers is better at managing than Rafa then go and have a look at Djimi Traore kissing the European Cup, that will tell you all you need to know about how good Rafa is. 'Mighty Reds' Rafa finished 7th in his last season, but just have a think back as to who was owning us back then. I find it funny that people say things like "you wouldn't say that if we won". It's such a bad argument. I have had my doubts about him from when he was first appointed, I worried that he had got the job too soon, and if he was good enough. I have since found out he isn't. Plus, why does he have to keep signing players he knows? It clearly didn't work last Summer, with Allen and Borini as out of their depth as Rodgers, and now Williams? Plus we have finished 7th, 6th, 8th and now 7th again it seems, and we still have to pay top prices, why?
JFT96
Smithy {Ed001's Note - so, by that token, you think Di Matteo is a great manager too then? What a ludicrous way of judging a manager. The way to judge them is simple, did we get better during Rafa's time, or did we in fact end up with far too many crap players on ridiculous wages leading us to the verge of administration?}
Isnt that what we startin to have again? Too many crappy players on high wages? Henderson not worth is wage or fee, downing the same, allen £16mil and his wages are ridiculous, borini can't make it in the premier league. The list goes on. RedTurk {Ed001's Note - tell me what their wages are then, seeing as how you think they are on high wages, even though none of them are. You really should give up on trying to claim any kind of knowledge, you have none.}
Eds do you have blind faith in BR then? BR isn't anywhere near the level of Rafa in terms of trophies, BR is still a very inexperienced manager with nothing in his credentials to say he will succeed. {Ed001's Note - did I say I have blind faith? I just think it is too early to judge him, but Rafa was not the answer, he was too busy playing off field politics and threw away the chance to win the league due to it.}
If your that smart mate answer back to eds post because people like you seem to sprout crap and not reply to any answers.
Rodgers has been given a season to which you can clearly see we're playing good football which we just need to convert to wins which don't take much. Think he has done a good job tbh
London red
Ed001, Rafa gave me the best night of my life supporting Liverpool, took us closer to the title than we have ever been in my lifetime, plus won La Liga with Valencia. He took a poor Houllier team and turned them into European Champions. He is better than Rodgers. I will judge managers on success, it's not a bad way at all, especially when you look at the trophies he's won, and the teams he won them with. He signed some dross, but look at Allen, Borini and Assaidi, and how badly Rodgers has dealt with some of the youngsters, like Rafa. Hicks and Gillett nearly bankrupt the club, not Rafa.
JFT96
Smithy {Ed001's Note - actually Rafa was as much to blame as Hicks and Gillett, just like he was for Valencia's near bankruptcy. Rafa was better, yes. Is better now? No. You are just looking at the past, and that night was horrible except for one short spell when we actually attacked them. Just like his entire time as manager, it was all about defending and not enough attacking when it was needed. A good manager would have won us the league, Rafa didn't. Rafa was appointed to win the league, he failed, that is it for me. Winning a cup, which is what the Champions League is, is not the be all and end all, nor proof that a manager is any good (see Roberto Di Matteo for proof that crap managers can win by defending deep against a far better side and getting lucky). I am glad we won it, but the manner we won is not that great, at 3-3 they were on the rack and completely destroyed, so what does Rafa do? Oh that's right, they are there for the taking, so he waves everyone back to defend and go for penalties. There were far better nights to be a Liverpool fan, the first 4-3 against Newcastle was at least entertaining football!}
What is the Djimi Traore point for?
He wasn't Benitez's signing.
Fair enough Ed, can't believe you are criticising Rafa for Istanbul though Haha. Didi should have started to be fair. Rafa was brilliant throughout the tournement. The best three games I've ever been to live were with Rafa as manager, the 2006 FA Cup Final, the 4-0 at home to Madrid, and the 4-1 at Old Trafford. We weren't too defensive under him then. I agree that bringing him back most likely wouldn't work, but Rodgers isn't the answer I don't think. I'm fed up of a new manager every season though, so I think he deserves another year, this summer will be massive for us, we can't keep selling our best players.
JFT96
Smithy {Ed001's Note - mind if I ask how old you are? Because it just sounds like your sights are lowered, whereas I was lucky enough to be around to catch the tail end of the Paisley era and so have much higher expectations than the kind of football Rafa served up for the vast majority of his tenure.}
The harshest criticism I've ever seen of Benitez -you're clueless ed. What other manager would have won us the league? We finished on our highest ever points total in the Premier League era under Benitez with a team he created. I'm not saying we should of rehired him or that Rodgers doesn't deserve more time (I am strongly in favour of him being given more time) but your criticism of Benitez is so over the top its a joke.
Istanbul and the European Cup was masterful tactically - our team was poor so Benitez set us up in the best possible way to win (play tight, defend well) - when we did attack Milan we got ruthlessly exposed - never thought I would hear Benitez criticised for Istanbul! During the season we finished 2nd we didn't play this negative football you talk about - we were outstanding, free flowing, free scoring. Think your way off about Benitez and your opinion smacks of personal agenda against Benitez rather than an impartial opinion on his tenure. I don't pretend he is perfect, but he's the best manager we'd had for a long while.
SMc {Ed001's Note - are you insane or just clueless? Tactically masterful? We got destroyed for 45 min, had a short spell were we dominated and pulled level and then Rafa's 'masterful tactics' saw a team that had fallen apart take over and dominate as he was so obsessed with not losing. Every game was the same, he would want us to take the lead and then sit on it, 10 men behind the ball and look to counter, so negative. We played negative football all through 2006, then, when we were so far behind it didn't matter Rafa suddenly realised and took the shackles off, only to bottle it when suddenly we did get within touching distance of the title and put the defensive shackles back on. If you are deluded enough to think he is some kind of god based on the dross he served us, then you need help. It is not me who has the personal agenda, I like Rafa, but you clearly are so far up his backside, that you can't see the truth when it is sat in front of you.}
08 Apr 2013 07:45:44
Rafa was appointed to win the league, he failed, that is it for me
Ed are you lost.
Rafa was appointed to win the league of Houlliers players?
or rafa was given 150 mill to rebuild the squad.
have you checked the players when rafa took over.
It took him 5 years to make a pretty excellent Liverpool squad.
The current Liverpool squad is miles better than what rafa took over from Houllier.
get a long grip. {Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? Can you not read? Your whole post is complete gibberish. Rafa was appointed to win the league within 5 years, that was his remit, nothing to do with Houllier, or Houllier's players. Why is that difficult to understand? Are all the asylums letting out this morning? Get a grip? I should get a grip of you and stop you typing crap on here. Rafa failed, end of. Since then he has gone on to Inter Milan, taken over the European champions and ripped them apart. Not really done too well at Chelsea either has he?}
Wouldnt mind sticking in a final word here - Rafa is a good manager. He's not histories greatest manager, he was a good manager. He produced some memorable nights and his tactics brought us some great results. He also spent huge amounts of money and brought us some tactical decisions that put our jaws through the floor. Ultimately, at his creative peak, he failed to win the big prize for us. Most of us will remember him fondly and for the good that he did for us - his work for Hillsborough and his connection with the fans especially. But questions over whether we should go are foolishness - he is no longer right and has not been for a long time. At Chelsea or City where he could buy endless solo creativity to counterbalance his negative football, then maybe. But we need a future now
08 Apr 2013 10:21:14
Are all the asylums letting out this morning
ed. is that racial discrimination? {Ed001's Note - are you being deliberately obtuse?}
Right on ed001, rafa had a good squad but lined his teams up just like west ham yesturday to catch teams on the break and as for tactics?he totally blew the CL final against milan with his defensive tactics, milan where there for the taking that day {Ed001's Note - shame, because he is such a lovely guy I would love him to have been the one to win us the league, but he was never going to do it, especially without Pako.}
07 Apr 2013 21:26:59
eds, who do you think needs to go out on loan from the younger lads within the squad, still think the likes of suso need more time to adapt to first team football and more experience? {Ed001's Note - if they aren't playing in the first team, then they could do with a loan, it really is that simple.}
07 Apr 2013 21:22:24
is there even the slightest chance of aubameyang, would love to see him and eriksen come in as attacking options, maybe ben arfa, cheers eds! {Ed002's Note - No.}
Just so Liverpool would be much better in Fifa 14.
07 Apr 2013 21:20:17
GOD I WISH EVERYONE WOULD CALM DOWN! I now we've been saying this for far too long but, like it or not, we are a work in progress and we are actually making progress! IN BR WE TRUST
We've been work in progress for the last 22 years. I would be happier if we had an experienced manager with work in progress as under BR there is no history to say he came make us a success.
I'm not saying that BR isn't the man but we could be in exactly the same position this time next season. nowhere near Europe or winning a trophy.
I just don't get how he hasn't sorted out our inconsistency yet? Nothing makes me think he will.
Many around wanted Rafa and then KK out, both of who had history of winning things and did with us.
07 Apr 2013 21:48:40
can people stop saying in br we trust, fair enough if you think that but its starting to do my head in
07 Apr 2013 20:59:18
Every loss/draw the Rodgers out brigade come into town.
There's most definitely improvement from last year and I think that will continue further once we give the man sometime.
Its not easy to take a 8th placed team to top 4.
Lets at least see how he finishes the season.
Am I the only one who thinks 6th will be a good stepping stone. 2 places.
Then jump another 2 next year and we're sorted.
The football is good to watch. 3/4 top players next season and that could make all the difference both defensively and offensively.
Davey Sulls
Where's the improvement? What are we better at now than last season, out of Europe, no trophys and now cannot beat sides above us apart from one result.
I'm not saying BR should be sacked but he can hardly be called a success!
Last season = 52 points total
This season = 49 points total, 6 games remaining.
Also remember that last season, Kenny had a larger senior squad and was in one less trophy - so resources were not divided as far as they were for Rodgers.
There's your improvement
To add to SamSam's comment, we are scoring many more goals now. The attacking football is much much improved.
We are much closer now than before Rodgers Reign. 4 players will probably do it.
An attacking midfielder that can score goals from outside the box would be a massive massive improvement as it will draw defenders out quickly and make space for inside forwards in additon to having more chances at goal.
What the team is obvoiusly crying out for is a big powerful defensive midfielder. This would be a big boost to us defensively and help us gain control of the midfield area better. Having said all that I do not think Lucas is fully fit this year after the long layoff and I predict a far better season from him next year.
Of course a top centre half. Not much to say here except quick, strong and good defensive brain needed. Leadership qualites would also be useful but not before the top first three attributes.
And finally a RW. Sturridge did ok there but for me he is a striker. And Downing while have a decent season can certainly be improved upon.
I also expect some players to really step up next year.
Allen was immense for swansea. He was brillant. He did not become a poor player in one season. I think the best is yet to come.
Lucas as already mentioned. He was out for so long. You don't just become the player you were right after. It takes time. He has lost some pace due to injury but I think he will gain this back in preseason.
Suso, Sterling, Wisdom and other youngsters. Year older and wiser. Some will have gained loads from first team football. They will step up further again next year.
There seems to be clear vision under Rodgers that previous regimes did not appear to have.
I'm not saying there hasn't been mistakes made this year. There obviously has.
Yes we had good cup runs last year but cups are cups. Swansea, Bradford, Wigan, Millwall had good cup runs this year. Hardly the best teams in England.
The league shows where you are at as a club. Therefore 6th is an improvement. And while I am not jumping up and down about it, it should be recognised as improvement and like I said a stepping stone. Its worth fighting for.
Davey Sulls
07 Apr 2013 20:49:41
Let's get this right people two teams make a football game. West Ham deserves credit. They were a tough nut to crack today. I want my team to win always. Divine right to win? We don't.
07 Apr 2013 20:39:36
Eds fellow reds, thinking about BR and LFC, an interview with Brian little on tv about time at villa first season 1point above bottom three, at end of season the next 2 finished 4 then 5 and he said after the 1st year he understood what was needed. think this could be BR and fsg plan.
07 Apr 2013 20:34:22
Watched the game today on a dodgy foreign channel on my laptop.
I thought our passing and movement in central area's was fairly good. West Ham parked the bus and who could blame them.
We seem to struggle striking a balance between having 5 midfielders or having 2 strikers. Unfortunately sturridge is having nice touches in midfield leaving us to rely on suarez up front as an single target for through balls. If he has a rare off day, this system clearly does not work.
With the amount of posession we were enjoying, surely both strikers need to play on the shoulders of defenders. Perhaps sturridge needs to be more disciplined and told not to continually ball hunt in deep area's?
Also I believe a world class winger would help, someone who drags 2 defenders everywhere. It was far too easy fr West Ham to defend well in banks of four. opinions Ed's? A top site btw
How can you 'play on the shoulder of a defender' when they are 'parked' on the edge of their own box?
07 Apr 2013 20:31:23
Arsenal fan here,
Just wondering what your thoughts are on what Brendan Rogers has to say in post-match interviews?
Arsene Wenger riles quite a lot of fans with his prepared speeches about mental strength and character, but I have noticed that Brendan Rogers also has a very bad habit of saying that Liverpool have played really well, regardless of the result of the match. Is he scared to tell people that Liverpool are underperforming?
cheers
Although I often do disagree with the things BR says, to be honest what he said was true- West Ham United parked the bus and our squad just isn't as strong and experienced as the top clubs.
Wenger complains like an old woman who you feel like giving the back of your hand to, to snap them out of it.
I thought BR was on the money, when a team comes to defend like West Ham United did it is very hard to break them down (6 defenders is not football). We needed an early goal as in most games to stop them being so very very very defensive. Hats off to West Ham United players they put in a shift and fought for their cause.
Sadly many fans now blame BR because teams are scared to play football against us and fat Sam is full of BS.
Yeah he can sound annoying at times. However we are not underperforming, wr are just the unluckiest team in the league. For example today stonrwall penalty.
e
Hounsred
07 Apr 2013 21:52:22
go away and focus on your own deranged manager, we are not a laughing stock it is you lot who are
07 Apr 2013 20:28:23
I really find it hard to say if we're going forward or backwards, I mean there's not many points difference than last season? The owners! Are these owners really going to take us forward and challenge for being champions of the premiership and back winning trophies I really don't think so? And also another point if we haven't got much money to spend where are we getting the money from for the stadium or are we going to borrow and be in big debt yet again like the last owners? I just don't know if we're really going forward with this structure we have? What's everyone's else opinions on us going forward? Does everyone else think we will will the premiership in the nxt few years under Brendan Rodgers and fsg?
07 Apr 2013 19:53:37
carroll and downing 35m plus 20m =55m
what are you on about?
majestic69
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Majestic69 your one of the biggest fool I have ever seen on this site,
Carroll and suarez=torres
Downing=raul and babel
I can go on and on
So u didn't pay 35m for carrol? hmmm. think u are the tool mate, ok u spent the money u got for torres but isn't that as bad if not worse? u got 50m in transfer money in and have just totally wasted it.
Chris the REDman
What are you on about. that person said we don't spend 50m on 2players
you clown
majestic69
Well said chrie the REDman.
that lad is a clown
majestic69
07 Apr 2013 19:52:45
Is it true we will sign Ashley Williams for £15m? Please no
Can't see FSG sanctioning that much for Williams. Maybe they'd allow it if Swansea would accept £8m or something, it sounds like Rodgers would like him. personally think he's not good enough for us but let's wait and see
Yes! It will happen
07 Apr 2013 19:42:46
so rodgers has said the team today was outstanding the man is looking more silly every time he speaks. been supporting Liverpool since 1965 and will always support them, this is the worst manager in my time and I don't care what the rodgers lovers say we will go nowhere with him in charge.
Perhaps you were in a comatose under souness and Evans.
And people should listen to you always. Oh silly me.
07 Apr 2013 22:39:50
EVANS ARE YOU SERIOUS!? Attractive football almost won league! Get a Grip!
London Red 86 {Ed001's Note - Evans was fantastic, the football was incredible.}
It doesn't matter what he says. The only thing that matters is what he does, and he has atleast 1 or 2 years to proove himself. I think he will.
ri red
07 Apr 2013 19:41:33
history lesson shankly took us from second division to win cup and league 65-66. the next six years we won nothing, from 72 onwards we were back. the people on this site would of had him out same with fergie seven years first trophy. keep the faith
alan waddle
07 Apr 2013 20:15:40
Comparisons with bill again, good god. Are fans are becoming more delusional than geordies and that takes some doing.
08 Apr 2013 06:04:44
Did you not hear Rodgers saying he will rebuild LFC like Shankly did. Each time that clown opens his mouth, we go on and lose. Why would players be up for it when they are constantly being praised every minute about how fantastic, exceptional, phenominal and excellent they have been.
The tempo at which we start every game says it all for me. Rodgers can never get the best out of this group. Man United go for the kill from the first blast of the whistle but we toss it about hoping to get lucky in the end. When the opposition plays a highline and don't give us space to operate, we lose. When they park the bus, we still can't beat them.
We are simply not good enough Rodgers says we are fantastic and excellent. So what more improvement do you hope to add to an excellent team?
07 Apr 2013 19:32:40
Who is this Harry Scouser character and has he banged his head? I read lots of team's pages but he takes the biscuit for continual whining and negativity. Harry, what were you expecting this year mate?
AJH
Couldnt agree more. He must have a horrible wife to go home to.
07 Apr 2013 19:48:07
nothing now. was excited in the beginning and probably was dreaming of CL.
Totally agree, maybe he should go to the mancs page.
Not sure about mad Harry, but 'lfc' (bless him) said Liverpool will be challenging us for the title this season. I said there will be at least a 35 point gap between us. Oh well, maybe next year.
Disney!
07 Apr 2013 19:54:06
btw mate. what were you expecting??. after spending over 120 mill over 2 years??.
now plss. no transition. blah blah.
any new excuse??
I know AJH everyone knows this was never going to be Liverpools year, but next year i'm sure will be there year!
Chris the REDman
Who's this AJH guy who comes onto a Liverpool rumours site just to be a United troll then has the audacity to start pointing out Liverpool fans on their own page to instigate some insults? Jog on mate.
JFT 96
JP
Harry, your a new breed of fan. No patience and only after Champions league.
Don't be naieve it goes on on all teams pages!
07 Apr 2013 21:53:56
cl means money.
money means owners are happy. quality players.
and most important. our club in profit.
Disney, I remember that, lfc also said spurs arsenal newcastle would be fighting for 5th, 6th, 7th, llf he couldn't predict what's on tv if he had the radio times in his lap, poor sod
07 Apr 2013 19:23:14
Eds. disapointing result tday clearly now it will be us and Everton will finish 6th and 7th does finishing 6th get us Europe leaque {Ed002's Note - Almost certainly not.}
07 Apr 2013 19:23:02
Suarez tries way to many nutmegs, sometimes that is the only thinking he is looking for. He has openings around the player and he still goes for a nutmeg. He can feint one way and go the other and he could mix it up a bit if its not working.
Shout out to Collins today! First defender I have seen completely shut him down. good defending
07 Apr 2013 19:10:11
We were awful today, even teams like Everton and Spurs have been better than us this season, no Europe next season would be a disaster, big summer ahead.
A concerned Liverpool fan.
Havent those teams u have mentioned been better than u for a few years now? Just asking.
Chris the REDman
Even teams like Everton and Spurs have had a season better than us? And we call Evertonians bitter? For God's sake lad, they've had better seasons than us because they're better than us, and in Everton's case, spent a fraction of what we've spent. We are where we are because we can't beat the likes of West Ham at home, inconsistency the major problem, the league table doesn't lie, and we are in the position we're in because, for the large part, we've been poor, with some exceptions, performance wise. Its a long road ahead to try and recapture the glory days, but I live in hope, Jars Michaelson
Spurs have been better than us for a few seasons now!
As opposed to last year when both of those teams finished above you? No, you probably played much better.
Ted
07 Apr 2013 19:05:45
Honest opinion of how things are going.
We don't need a clearout, we have some fantastic players on our books, we only need to make 2/3 additions in the summer. Name a pl team whose transfers have all worked out.
Weve got a young manager who is bringing some shankly-esq philosophys with him, with some great potential. and with the backroom staff we're in a 1000 times better position for a long while.
Next season will be the test, which will put a lot of pressure on the team and the manager, something which we don't respond well to. so the first 5 games will be make or break.
Im confident the owners have done a lot more than required, they bring no experience, but have a genuine interest in taking us back to the good old days and for us to become economically sound.
6 games to go, but unless there's any disasters for the teams above, were better off bringing the likes of suso and ibe on from the subs bench for some game time, as I can't see us snatching 4th or 5th.
07 Apr 2013 20:18:29
Shankly-esq. FFS. Stop please stop.
Waro
07 Apr 2013 19:01:57
I think I will leave this site alone until the school holidays finish.
Too many children filling these pages with rubbish.
So what we didn't win today. It was one of those games where the opposition defended excellently. So much criticism all the time!
Give it a rest!
07 Apr 2013 19:24:16
I think the only thing we can complain about is some players performances. but not BR, not FSG, not 95 % of the things said on here.
Malak
I know what your saying but it's not just today we have dropped silly points we just can't seem to put 2 or 3 wins together but I think we have to give Rodgers time we can't keep getting a new man in every year.
07 Apr 2013 19:36:11
Haha again it was one of those games bla bla don't you feel ashame, excuse after excuse, the club is falling every year from 2nd to top4 to 7th to europa now even no europa and still you have guts to say, oh dear you should flash yourself before pointing fingers to others!
07 Apr 2013 18:50:56
If this is Liverpool moving in the right direction, then I for one am scared! I Mean 0-0 at home to west ham, what's next a win against reading?
Ps how long is this transition going to last?
Duggo (a happy Manchester United fan)
Maybe it takes a united man to see the woods from the trees
Agree poster directly above we're deluded
07 Apr 2013 18:49:50
How any of us can slate the performance is beyond me. can't people just give credit to westham's performance. they defended magnificently and Collins I think it was had Suarez in his pocket all game today.
AJP
Not the whole game, as he did get megged!
I could have had Suarez in my pocket, even when Collins wasn't on him his touch was shocking. Wasn't himself today Suarez.
07 Apr 2013 18:41:15
Most on here including one or two of the editors believe FSG made a huge blunder giving the job to Kenny fulltime after he was brought in to steady the ship. He overspent on poor players and the club are still paying for it now. Well I believe FSG have a made a second blunder in as many years by letting BR pick his own players. If you look at Chelsea, they can change the manager every season if they wish as it's not the manager that chooses their players. If you look at Kenny's signings, most if not all will be gone within a year as BR didn't/doesn't want them. With BR being in-charge of the incomings it now means FSG will probably have to keep the faith in him as bringing in a new manager may mean another clearout. IMO FSG should have brought in someone to do the signings and that would have made the manager's job at Liverpool less significant if they wanted to change him. I think FSG may have second thoughts about BR, but they may need to stick with him now or shell out another load on new players.
Disney!
07 Apr 2013 18:52:23
Noe will attract decent money apart from suarez.
And there's another one.
07 Apr 2013 19:18:58
Disney mate kenny didn't over spent on players it was camolli and the board who negotiated the deals and accepted paying those kind of fees.
To put all blame on kenny is just to save board, camolli and owners grace,
Kenny chose the players
Camolli negotiated the deals
Tom werner accepted and finalised the deals
Ian ayre was in favour of those deals
John henry brought camolli and was very, very happy allowing those deals as our net spend was only 30M at the sametime selling lots of players who were on decent wages and bringing players who were very cheap interms of wages compare to players who were sold.
So it was a win, win situation for owners, spending only 30M from their pockets at the sametime saving another 20-30M from wages, which massively backfired.
No board can allow those kind of deals or accept paying 35M for carroll, they all need to be sacked including tom werner who has very little idea about how footy is run.
Liverpool can and will never move foward with that kind of board who are joke!
Roman knows best he picks the player for the manager to work with
And chelsea have been the most successful club over the last 10 years in England
Its a results business and no one can argue with romans results
"07 Apr 2013 19:18:58"
Except the net spend wasn't £30m, it was £57.3m.
I agree it wasn't Kenny who sealed the deals, but it was the players he wanted and the board did what they could to get him the players he wanted. Ultimately the board's fault for employing Kenny, but Kenny was still well out of his depth.
Disney!
Sydney, your err in most of what I have seen written by you!
97K - see the trick.
07 Apr 2013 18:27:16
No urgency at all unti dying minutes. This got me wondering what sort of training these boys do these days. Do they just pass and pass without bursting a gut and making forward runs with the ball? Do these bunch of lavishly paid young men and managers realise its Liverpool they are representing? I don't know if its down to the players or the tactics being adopted but we are so poor at the moment.
Lastly, we need at least two strikers and one right winger. If Suarez wants to leave, then let him do so. He was horrible today and his body language had me wondering. Tries to dribble most of the time and won't square a simple pass for others to shoot at goal. Gave the ball away all the time trying to beat someone. This is not the Liverpool way at all and it seems BR has not guts to talk to Suarez. But again we had no one on the bench to come in and replace him. Now BR hurry and get us a couple of strikers this summer and that's if really know what you are doing.
07 Apr 2013 18:50:59
great and who are our buys. selling suarez?
cavani, aguero, falcao. gomez.
Oh wow I knew we had some personic fans but suarez has an off game and your basically saying he's rubbish and get rid of him?! omg this site never fails to bring out the persons
London red
Sturbridge was awful after he came on had a decent start for us scoring against the likes of the mighty mansfields and Oldham he is not a team player like I have said before a poor signing Brendan. TOMLFC.
07 Apr 2013 19:26:38
sturridge was much better than suarez today, actually he and coutinho was the only 2 decent attacking players today, and hendo and agger as well. stop sputing rubbish about sturridge, we are lucky to have him.
Malak
Lucky having sturridge I bet Chelsea laughed the money into the bank malak my friend, sturridge like tomlfc says is a selfish one minded player and is not good enough for this club to progress face facts will you.
07 Apr 2013 19:56:55
i agree london red,
he had a bad game, but the day suarez leaves Liverpool I think I will cry! He is propably top 5 alltime Liverpool players ever. wish he would stay for ever. sadly that won't happen if we fail to finish in the top 4 next season, but iam optimistic we will!
Malak
07 Apr 2013 20:47:21
alright I will face facts
the fact is he has scored 5 goals and have 3 assists in 8 starts. he also scored today and was ruled out for offside but he was onside see the replays.
also 3 of his shots leaded to others scoring goals, vs arsenal away, vs swansea and vs southampton away. Chelsea only sold him because he wanted to move and we made an acceptable offer, they wanted £ 16 million and they got £ 12 m, I don't think they are laughing what so ever, and I think he will be one of our best players for seasons and seasons to come! Now that's the facts, and I am facing them, and they don't bother me 1 bit. if they bother anyone else, they should take a really long hard look at themselves to find out if they are really Liverpool supporters. END OFF
Malak {Ed002's Note - Chelsea did not have a set fee in mind.}
Malak sturridge was not an attacking threat today half the time he was playing CDM for some reason. Couldn't even get his usual tap in
07 Apr 2013 22:55:35
he got his tap in but it was ruled out for offside that after I have seen again 5 times was the wrong decision.
Brendan played him a Rw and Am and he had to track back, when he doesn't track back he is lazy.
i believe sturridge will be a big player for us!
Malak
I would really like to see sturridge succeed at LFC but he has failed at other clubs and when his attitude gets the better of him I think he will fail at our club. I hope not, but I don't see a class striker in him
08 Apr 2013 11:06:02
he did NOT fail at other clubs!!
he was almost never given a chance at other clubs who by the way are Manchster City and Chelsea!He was a big sucsess at bolton the only club he played some games for!
There is a big big difference between those 2 failing when given 100+ chances like torres or not getting a chance. I also read a person comment on here the other day about coutinho failing at inter and espanyol! He was a huge sucsess at espanyol! and was barley given a chance at Inter. Iam delighted 2 so skillfull and pacey players are already in a Liverpool shirt!
Malak
07 Apr 2013 18:14:28
Imagine If rafa gets 120 mill.
yes he will waste 50 mill out of it. in ridiculous wages. and another flops. like degan. elzhar. aqua.
But he would have also bought 5 world class players from sunny spain. who would be world beater.
boring football. but points in the bag.
squad rotation. but. Cl every year.
simple logic
Negative, negative, negative. "ill use the search function" to try and find a positive post by harry scousser
He didn't get CL every year, his last season Liverpool finished 6th and his 1st we finished fifth, they changed the rules then to allow Liverpool to be in the qualifying rounds the next season
sigh diame to replace lucas
sign dede if possible and another top center half
martin Kelly next season ahead of Johnson (who is awful) and strootman or eriksen would be a big statement
majestic69
Harry scousser
Move on, please. It's over and he's never coming back. Stop dreaming about what if's.
07 Apr 2013 17:59:43
Noting regarding todays match.
Loic Remy. 8 mill marselle.
5 goals in 8 match. after two injury spells with QPR.
I support Liverpool. But he is 100 times better than Borini.
07 Apr 2013 18:22:05
please man
give it a rest
his injurys combined was 2 weeks.
Borinis first injurys put him out for 4 months.
the 2nd for 3 months. Loic Remy may be better than Borini but we don't know that yet before borini plays those 8 games you are talking about in a row as a striker, not on the wings.
Malak
?. what a surprise, another negative post from you.
He is on double borinis wage i'd say but his goal today was fantastic
He is there main striker and the only one that can score goals. Put borini there he'd do even better
07 Apr 2013 19:04:18
yes. he is on double the wages.
So does all the top players. with their clubs.
Messi is not on 60k per week. at barca.
You need top players. either you should compete for titles. CL. etc.
or pay them what they want.
Where does money come from Harry in your world? Magical trees I am assuming.
If remy was a top player, Marseilles would ask top money. Yet they didn't
07 Apr 2013 21:57:59
did aston villa asked 20 mill on downing?
07 Apr 2013 17:59:37
Rodgers simply isn't good enough, he is out of his depth and has been since he arrived. This club has been going downhill since we sacked Rafa, and that decision is looking worse and worse as time goes on. Rodgers is a fraud, everytime he speaks I cringe. I'm fed up of being told to give things time, that we are in 'transision', it is rubbish. Rafa won the European Cup in his first season, Kenny took us to Wembeley 3 times, people are just looking for excuses. By the way the way some on here slag Kenny is a disgrace, a club legend, who has done more for this club than anyone in history and yet you use him to try and defend a man who calls Liverpool a 'franchise'. He got the job because he is a yes man, and he was willing to accept FSGs approach of reducing the wage bill and only signing players with sell on value. No other manager would have. If Suarez leaves this club is only heading in one direction, and it isn't up. Nobody running the club at any level, other than the academy has a clue, or any experience of running a top class football club, and it is telling. No sign of development on the stadium, and Season Ticket prices have gone up again, and the club wants the money in faster than ever before, it's a joke. Local fans won't be able to afford go, and the soul of the club is being lost.
JFT96
Smithy
07 Apr 2013 18:17:02
completely agree, rodgers isn't a winning kinda guy for me and isn't a big enough personality for the club. i'm sick of the word transition aswell, its been too long and as you say we get slightly worse every year, anyone who wants to say we have had a better season than last is kidding thereselves, our passing may have improved but in the pl that really isn't enough. united are in as much as a transition as us in terms of new players, trying to change playing style with addition of kagawa etc and moulded youth, they just have same manager and are about to win the league so why aren't we moving forward. i'm not saying sack rodgers, he should be given another season but we need big signings and keep suarez or he will be revealed for what he is
The club want season tickets paid for by the 28th may, we usually pay end of june are they getting our money early so they have it before they do things that they think may stop us renewing our tickets.
And if we had won today you would not have posted this.
Jam
I think you will find that Rafa started our demise. Remember 7th in his last season. Also 52 points last season if we beat that then surely we are progressing. We already have 49. I am very happy with Rodgers. I can see progress.
07 Apr 2013 18:33:21
do you know that if Brendan was sacked, it would propably increase the chances of Suarez leaving?
I think Brendan is doing a good job, but we still need 4-5 better players and hopefully we will get them this summer and push on from there. Even if suarez leaves I think (mostly I hope) we will be in a better position as long as we sign the right players.
Malak
Hi Smithy,
Some Points I agree with here and some not.
Rafa was frustrating at times but overrall I think is a better tactian, Rodgers can be great because he clearly know's what he would like to create but I think his downfall is he's to proud and stubborn to admit mistakes. I've seen a few howlers since his tenture started as have many of us.
I think it went to his head managing such a great institution, I refer to embarassing moments highlighted in the Series this is Liverpool. about Carroll then he's made to look stupid when it backfired, albeit it at boardroom level but as a boss he should be more savvy what you're saying irrespective of it being for entertainment.
2. I hear him in interviews and can see the longterm being a success if you want to play a certain type of football but you also have to have a certain type of player to implement this, right now he has'nt got the full monty so he should maybe try mixing it up a little in games! however already stated by Gerrard he dosnt want a plan B, he wants us to pass to death until an opening comes along aka Barca esc. I would say Brendan u need to create the lethal final ball in the last 3rd 7/10 times for this to happen, we obviously don't.
Many games this has happened and he has yet to realise it and it's cost us many pts this season.
3. Biggest error of all, actually 2 errors. firstly belief is a good thing but his cockyness when advised we were looking for a Football advisor to help him and more importantly draw players to the club he dug his heels in, I would be interested to know whether the club pannicked here as we still went along pursuing him after this conversation.
2, Employing yesman. Mike Marsh. omg. This lead to Rodolfo leaving the club. awful awful decision by Rodgers, what has Marsh done? his knowledge is limited and offers nothing whereas Borrell had it in abundance but Rodgers went all English. he needs to realise the club is bigger than a jobs for the boys type attitude.
Despite all this I think his theories on football are correct and maybe, just maybe if given time he will get the squad, his squad and we'll see because quality is what we are missing. players who can make decisions in moments. Enrique is a prime example, 85th min in space head down running like a BULL. maybe this works 4 or 5 times but when u need to pick your head up and add that quality we have to many of these players. except for Gerrard Suarez and maybe Coutinho who'll get better obviously no one else is capable for me.
FSG will sell in the end as I don't think their heart is in it when it gets tough and questions are asked. they are already looking for investors as we speak.
Selling Suarez I don't agree we would sink, the club will survive and buy I would hope 3 or 4 good quality players who would change the dynamics and make us more of a team. It happened with Newcastle, Utd and others, life go's on.
Cheers
Prendergel
Smithy are you mental? Our form in the last 6 is won 4 drawn 1 lost 1 that's league winning form mate. If we had performed like that throughout the season we'd still be in the title race.
This has been a season of improvement and one bad result doesn't detract from the huge progress we have made this year.
I'm not a Rafa hater by any means, but when Rafa was in charge we spent like crazy, give Rodgers an equivalent amount and he would preform better in the market, coutinho vs aqualiani. Yeah you know it
Andy H
07 Apr 2013 19:19:29
downing vs babel.
torres vs caroll
henderosn vs alonso.
get a grip.
07 Apr 2013 19:59:32
the only one needs to get a grip is you aarrrrryyyy!
Malak
07 Apr 2013 17:54:33
Back from the game and feeling a little frustrated.
West Ham came with the game plan to sit deep as do most teams these days at Anfield.
To combat teams that set out to stiffle our attack, I really feel we need to capitilise on squandered possesion from the opposition and move the ball out quicker from the back. In the first half we were far to slow, not much incision passing, just side to side. We have the pace in Suarez, Sturridge and Cotinhou - (I thought had a good game) to do this.
It did improve in the second half and when we attacked the Kop, we were more direct and stretched the Hammers defece at times.
I also feel we need to push out wide a little bit more (even with a 433 formation) to stretch defences, it was far too congested in an around the 18yd box at times with us trying to thread a pass through the eye of a needle.
There were a number of players off their game today, Johnson in particular was poor, Assaidi offering very little.
I still feel we are moving in the right direction and felt we could have won today, thought Gerrard should have been awarded a penalty.
Nicky D
07 Apr 2013 17:53:22
Liverpool will never challenge again without buying world class players we like it or not and that's the fact.
Footy has really changed and Liverpool have fallen way behind top clubs, without spending big in transfer or wages its impossible for any manager to turn things around, so sacking rodgers is not the answer, Owners need to rethink their plan because nothing will change and next season will be the same, again season after that will be the same unless we start buying world class players to turn things around for our club.
Stadium is big problem and its holding our club back, FSG need to do things quickly if they are serious, very, very sad to see our mighty Liverpool struggling! {Ed002's Note - Liverpool have consistently been in the top four transfer spending clubs in the country with a wage bill to match. The stadium is subject to planning permission and cannot be dealt with overnight. Have you got the right page?}
07 Apr 2013 18:09:25
i totally DISAGREE.
we have top 4 wages. maybe that's our problem?
Malak
07 Apr 2013 18:19:40
no ed we haven't spent much, we bought cheap and have developed some youth. we don't spend like chelsea {Ed002's Note - You clearly have no grasp of matters at all.}
07 Apr 2013 18:19:41
Ed2 mate when you say Liverpool are consistantly spending, but you don't take in a account that Liverpool spend 50-60M on 4-5 players where teams like city or chelsea even united spend that kind of money in 1-2 player which makes a massive difference. {Ed002's Note - What about the other teams above Liverpool - Spurs, Arsenal, Everton. You are turning the club into a laughing stock with this repeated embarrassment that the owners have spent no money.}
Yes we have spent a lot of money but most of it has been on no marks who are not up to getting lfc top table they are ok for villa, swansea etc rafa made some mistakes but look at, reina, torres, alonso, macerano, good players who can get in top teams.
07 Apr 2013 18:41:50
the ed is right!
Coutinho f. eks! He was Liverpools best player today btw for me atleast! If Liverpool had spent double what they paid for him (£ 17 million) and he started his Liverpool career in the same way nobody would have even said anything about his price and we would say wow, a great deal. But you are slating the club for trying to stop their overspending and getting the best deal possible. that's just insane. I hope if a is player is worth 10 million that we don't pay 20 million just because other clubs want the same player.
Malak
07 Apr 2013 18:52:47
Ed2 mate no one can turn a club who are already a laughing stock. !
07 Apr 2013 18:55:31
carroll and downing 35m plus 20m =55m
what are you on about?
majestic69
£36m on Caroll, £23 on Suarez, £20m on Downing, £16m on Henderson - that's around £95m on 4 players!
HB
07 Apr 2013 18:39:18
There is a difference Ed.
Owners have Sanctioned the Money.
We have gambled or blewen the money on simply. but simply average players.
out of possible 10. only 2 would make a CL team.
suarez and countinho for me. not even sturridge.
7 mill for charlie adam. now he is playing for championship.
our standards. {Ed002's Note - See my previous answer.}
And Gerrard, Reina, agger wouldn't? You haven't a clue what your on about mate
07 Apr 2013 20:34:55
Ed002, nice to see you continue the propaganda for your paymasters. Hope your spending it well, what's worse is it's my season ticket £££'s plus the increased price that's paying for puppets like your good self. {Ed002's Note - It remains a pity that (a) there is nothing constructive that you have to say about the club Waro; (b) you have never provided any sort of argument to explain what you see the owners are doing wrong regardless of them paying £1M per week to cover the losses the club is making; (c) you ave never said who you want to take over the club - or even said if you would prefer a floatation of the club providing some nice new institutional owners.
Maybe you and your neo-political buddies can take over - or have their new found chums taken all of the subs for other purposes? I remain astonished at the hate you have for everyone associated with the club - nothing will ever be good enough for you. From my perspective it is you and those like you that are dragging the club down. You drive these owners out and there are potentially serious issues down the road - but hey, all you need to do then is complain some more.}
Nothing I havn't heard before Ed002, look through previous posts and I have listed my issues with the owners, why I want them gone and what I would like to see as an ownership soloution. Also you will see positive posts about Rodgers and certain players from myself if you care to look so were you are seeing me criticise everything and everyone at the club is a little baffling! {Ed002's Note - Point me at those posts - your pre-January beef with the owners was money, that is all I recall. I would like to see who you want to take over. If not, please provide a summary.}
07 Apr 2013 17:35:00
Suarez today - had a bad first 15 minutes with 4 misplaced passes, then could not find the space inbetween WHU's back 8. He still megged around 6 players, did the foot crossover cross and hit the post from an angle that was beyond impossible. If that's a bad game then the premiership is full of terrible strikers.
We judge him against his own outstanding performances, we shouldn't.
Suarez was bad the whole 95 minutes. and we should only judge him by his outstanding performances, if we don't why even bother if the best player in the league sucks!
07 Apr 2013 17:28:54
No plan B. possession doesn't win a football match, goals do
07 Apr 2013 18:07:44
Barca. one plan.
lost at san siro.
came back. same plan. 4-0. and that's it.
Its nothing to do with a 'plan B. ' Its called not being clinical and putting your chances away, of which we plenty of today to win the game.
Liverpools problem is consistancy.
Jam
07 Apr 2013 17:25:27
so what if west ham parked the bus, do you expect them turn up and do what BR wants ffs. at the end of the day its a football match, west ham wanted a point Liverpool wanted 3 and west hams tactics prevailed cause they got what they wanted. don't forget lfc parked the bus for the whole of the second half at emirates last month and had a 2 goal lead but arsenal broke lfc down and in fact could have won the game, so stop complaining and making excuses just not good enough, end off
07 Apr 2013 17:54:06
thank you
not a good enough performance
nobody slating anybody
Malak
07 Apr 2013 17:13:34
i love the way last season all these posters come on saying how no-one is allowed to criticise kenny as he it the king etc. Yet now come on and have a go at kenny in order to defend rodgers. They are completely different cases, kenny is a club legend who had been a world class player and manager whilst rodgers has never played the game or managed a top side. It is fair enough for people to critcise the manager in the same way everyone comes on and criticises the players, even people like gerrard who is a club legend get slated for one bad game. Well let me say this, gerrard has done more for the club than rodgers will ever do so stand up for people like gerrard and kenny rather than rodgers
Kenny was a grate player was a grate manager second time around he was a pure clown wasting money and damaging the club with his terrible interviews
Let's be fully honest he was not a king second time around
What I am saying is that if u had posted that last season then you would have been slated. Now all the fans have a go at kenny and praise rodgers. They then call other fans fickle
Always the king
FowlerisGod
Kenny is a great man, a great manager and was let down by the good players he bought with reasonable expectation of success. Last season we were desperately unlucky and were enjoyable to watch. Don't diss the King; he of all people does not deserve it.
ND
What site are you reading?! Seriously BR gets more stick then kenny and he didn't piss away 100 million!
Kenny had some of the worst luck ever last year - if goal posts were 2 inches wider we'd have probably ended up champions. Taking Carroll out of the list the rest of Kenny's signings are all solid first team players now. I agree he had to go because we need to build with a view to the future but I don't think his reign was as bad as is made out by some.
07 Apr 2013 17:11:21
I really don't think we're doing that badly; we had a terrible start to the season when brendan was finding his feet and the players were adapting to the new system.
However, since the 1st of December we've managed 33 points in 17 games. That kind of form would be enough for a top 4 spot so providing we strengthen our squad in the summer, we should be in for a much better season next year.
News for you my friend the season starts in August not December.
07 Apr 2013 17:30:46
League starts on may. not when Liverpool gets going.
You cannot manage a top four spot with Suarez, how will you get a top four spot without him?
Disney!
What I was showing is that over the last 4-5 months we've been in good form, brendan just had a bad start as he took over. If we continue as we have been doing for the past 4-5 MONTHS next season then we'll be fine.
jesus
Disney don't allwaays agree with you but allways look forward to you, r banter. fact is we won't make top 4 without him, not unless something special happens
martin p
07 Apr 2013 17:07:31
the atmosphere at anfield resembles a funeral parlour, these days, which is quite ironic seeing lfc seems to be on its last legs and needs handouts to survive, just waiting for the final croak
Your post might be garbage but you were right about the appalling atmosphere today. Then we wonder why they don't win! The fans used to be the twelfth man, not any more sadly.
ND
The reason is mate us proper fans have great difficulty getting tickets there to many corpriate tickets in today's game.
Bang on need Utds acoustics advisor
Do you know what 'ironic' means?
07 Apr 2013 17:04:15
Let's be honest, 100% of the posters on here know nothing about running a football club, and 50% seemingly know nothing about football. They post that we are brilliant when we win and we are rubbish when we don't. Restoring LFC to being competitive again will take time and results in the second half if the season are better than the first. Can't people just have some patience? All this, "we are Liverpool" rubbish is just that, rubbish. It means little other than history now as the football landscape has changed with Chelsea, man city etc. who were outside if the big 4 beforehand. I for one support the club and commend those fans who can truly support, not just criticise
Pieboy1812
Excellent post Pieboy.
DT
07 Apr 2013 18:08:32
i agree man. we should forget the past and focus on the now and the future.
Malak
Just like Nottingham forrest right?
Well said. Wonder who would disagree with this. Must be some club owner looking for a new manager on this site as quite a few openly say they have more knowledge of the game and running a club then Rodgers/ayers/fsg
Chelsea are miles ahead of us, face facts fellow reds.
07 Apr 2013 17:01:51
Credit to West Ham they executed their game plan to perfection today. I have always said that our midfield options Gerrard aside are pretty average - Allen, Lucas, Henderson, Shelvey and Suso (age). Precisely why I have consistently maintained that a physical central midfielder and a creative and versatile right sided player remain a priority in addition to the obvious requirement for centre back reinforcement. Can't blame BR for fielding an unchanged line up, felt Suarez's performance was abject today (suppose he has earned the right to have the odd poor game). I felt with half an hour to go there might have been an opportunity for Suso or Shelvey to come on and try and create something, but I guess BR felt we had enough on the field to deliver - it wasn't to be, it's disappointing but we just have to suck it up and look ahead to Reading at the weekend.
DT
07 Apr 2013 17:00:38
The amount of times I said top four is a ridiculous idea, but never mind lads maybe a strong finish? Get your heads out your asses. Don't look at the future, forget the past! It's the here and now that counts and the table doesn't lie
07 Apr 2013 16:34:38
Seriously, did anyone think we were in with a shout of either cl or Europa for next season? Ok so today was another one of those days, but let's look at where we have come from this season.
. to have our worst start in 50 years with a new manager and a number of expensive and, at the time, ineffective players, we are in a position where people still feel we could get one of the European slots.
For me this was always going to be an unrealistic target, especially given our start. Rest assured though, if we can start to get greater consistency, as we have started to do of late, then next season should see us compete more.
The only concern would be the situation regarding suarez. This summer will be a vitally important one where retaining the services of Suarez could be the best bit of business we do.
There is far too much negativity on here - remember our beloved club nearly went to the wall a few years back. let's try to enjoy what we have and support the club in its ambition to get back to the top and allow us to talk about current success rather than past glory or worse, just slagging off the owners, manager and players.
07 Apr 2013 17:19:41
Mate are you trying to say even after spending 60M europa league was too much if so then I'm afraid!
07 Apr 2013 20:05:26
How many players were moved on?
07 Apr 2013 16:34:18
Here come the trolls again now suarez getting battered for having a apoor game he's carried us most of the season you persons westham parked the bus simple we made some poor decisions. Simple. Like most people who post sh*te on here after a loss or draw. Simple! Maybe you should go support some other team you bunch of whinning we persons, Liverpool fc will be higher in table next season and then you will all be back saying br is our saviour, shankly wouldn't have even got time to do anything with people like you. Grow up ajh316
07 Apr 2013 17:42:49
can I please ask you a question?
so suarez deserves praise after todays performance?
all what is said, he had a bad game! (and in all honesty he had a very bad game)
I love him and nothing bad said, not his day today that's all.
Malak
07 Apr 2013 16:31:19
Was it me or was Sturridge playing central midfield when he came on today? He was so deep, leaving us with no focal point up front. Was he bought for this role?
07 Apr 2013 16:28:51
Frustrating result but West Ham defended well and Suarez had one of his off days. Don't think BR could have done much else today apart from maybe having Strurridge through the middle and Suarez out wide. I would like us to look at getting another striker though e.g Wilfried Bony? A centre back and DM should still be priorities in the summer however.
Diame Michu or benteke
07 Apr 2013 16:25:17
Ed in your opinion whatdo you think of that penalty we should of had? He got the ball slightly but still completely took Gerard out? That looked so obvious
London red {Ed001's Note - looked to me like he knew the ball was in Gerrard's path (though there was a covering defender I don't think he saw him), so he made sure to stop him getting to it. Irrelevant whether he got the ball or not, the question is whether he got Gerrard, as that was a separate movement from the initial tackle.}
07 Apr 2013 20:35:52
i just saw some replays and the ref and the lines man cost us a goal and a penalty today.
As it turns out sturridges goal was not offside!
Malak
07 Apr 2013 16:25:10
Eds fellow reds, when QPR go down, do you think remy could be an option for us
He will be like papiss cisse, everyone will hype him up then next season he will barely be able to deliver
07 Apr 2013 18:34:51
But for 5 mill he can be a decent squad player not worse than 11 mill borini.
If you can wait 2 seaons for downing, hendo allen and borini. we can suerly wait for one full seaosn with remy.
07 Apr 2013 18:57:47
Remy is not cheaper in no way and is older and also and don't forget this would cost more than 5m!
You even said Benteke would cost 5m? how do you even make stuff like this up. Villa paid around 8million for him, why oh why would they even consider selling him for anything less than what they paid for him, or even double that?
if benteke is sold this summer he will cost his next suitor at least £ 15 million.
Malak {Ed002's Note - We don't discuss wages Malak because of the box of rocks conundrum.}
07 Apr 2013 19:32:31
alright ed. no stress.
Malak {Ed002's Note - It is all to do with mohaniya.}
07 Apr 2013 20:10:14
yes ed, some on here with their Mohaniya ruin it for everybody else. (You are an enlightened person ed, not only football, respect)
Malak
07 Apr 2013 16:24:25
No Bale. No Spurs.
No Goals for Suarez. No Win for Liverpool.
Your getting worse than arsenal with the spurs obsession!
Llf, obsession, at Liverpool its utd, everton, spurs, chelsea, arsenal, and everyone else, infact west brom aren't even on the christmas card list at the moment, scousers can't see someone with sh$te for being jealous, a strange lot indeed
No Suarez goals against Villa and Oh yeah Liverpool won!
07 Apr 2013 16:16:49
At the game today. At a shocker. We looked leggy and tired. Ref was shocking. Collins had Suarez in his pocket. Can I just add, what is the point in expaning the stadium, it was dead today. West ham fans showed us up, they were funny though.
Gaz b
Always dead of late. real fans and locals can't afford to go
Expand the stadium, hopefully can freeze ticket prices because there are more seats. Hopefully
Sam get real they won't see Arsenals experience and their background=Yonks. Even Villa turned on learner
07 Apr 2013 16:14:43
Sometimes it seems like everyone wants to be skillful and show flair like Suarez instead of playing simple and it showed today so many careless errors we need to be more direct and less fancy.
07 Apr 2013 16:11:31
This is progress. this is what you fans wanted!.
Rafa out! Hodgson out! Dalglish out! Have been the shouts and now its Rodgers turn.
Oh yeah it was Rafa lost it, Roy not exciting enough, kenny to old and Brendan not experienced.
Is this because they don't have a fancy name?
I think some have these tinted coloured glasses waiting for mourinho or gaurdiola to save us. Neither Mourinho or Gaurdiola want the job.
Support your team, players, staff and club because this is whar supporters do.
Sj76
07 Apr 2013 16:35:09
supporting since 23 years.
07 Apr 2013 16:09:16
lfc truely are a one man team, if saurez doesn't perform then its "goodnight dick". spurs have bale but their squad is a lot superior to lfc (hence the draw with everton) lfc would loose to everton if they played right now minus saurez, and to think a lot of fans where still harbouring hope of top 4 up untill today. get real!
Disagree. Our attacking threat as a whole was awful, not just Suarez. It's one thing if Suarez is off his game (and he was), but Gerrard had a couple of good opportunities and didn't hit the target, Sturridge was somewhat anonymous, Coutinho had a few different decent pops at it (and for me was decent overall), Johnson lost the ball more often than not, and I now see perhaps why Assaidi isn't playing much. Overall, the team was poor, not just Suarez.
Behave they said the same about Gerard, when Suarez is on the pitch everyone waits for him to do something. Even if he missed a game against Everton we wouldn't lose
Rdl. you are missing the point, I don't think its stretching it to far by saying an on form saurez will give lfc a 50% better chance of scoring and winning a game than without him and that includes some team mates having a poor game, he only makes up 10% of the outfield lfc squad, think about it, you might not like it but its true, where would lfc be without him, scrabbling around the bottom half of the league that's where
Disagree, previous poster. No one, including me, knows how we would look without Suarez. If we hadn't picked up Suarez that January window, we would have likely spent on someone else instead.
Obviously I have no idea who, but I do think it's fair to say we would have likely bought someone. Who knows what would have happened then? Perhaps the replacement would have been able to combine with Carroll better than Suarez did. Perhaps they wouldn't have been involved in numerous rather negative incidents which might have led to KK still being the manager? Point is you can't just take out Suarez and assume there would have been no other alternative.
07 Apr 2013 16:07:22
Today would have been the day for the front four of downing sturridge suarez and coutinho. They had no interest in matching our midfield. Never the less we did batter them! However it is positive for next year and we are not far off champions league. We are million miles better than we were after kenny left us anyway!
07 Apr 2013 16:33:10
Your right there, no trophy no europe but we might move 1 place up and better our points total by 4 or 5 points, your a shrewd one you lad, ever thought of coaching as a carrer?
07 Apr 2013 15:56:14
What would all the experts on this site have done to change the result today? I'm intrigued to know
Jj {Ed023's Note - Great question}
Scored a goal. That would of changed the result.
Suso for Henderson in the 2nd half may have helped unlock the defence. Henderson earned his place in the team today but thought Suso's guile and goal threat may have pushed us on in that 2nd half. Not an expert just a thought.
Ciario80
07 Apr 2013 16:29:07
Start with a different formation! (2 strikers)
dont give me that about changing a winning team!
Totally different to play away and home!
Have the guts to sub off the worst player on the pitch? (SUAREZ)
Tell the players don't take 5 touches each time? like G. johnson?Downing?
Or Tell Enrique to keep the width and stop cutting inside for christs sake?
Play sturridge ufront and suarez on the right as he was clearly marked the f*** out?
Many things that could have been done but what happened happened, am happy lucas was there to clear that header or we would have lost again and the doomgloomers would have been much worse. I still support the players and the manager, but we as loyal fans expect a little better effort at least!
Malak
Play 4-4-2 at Home
and Play with 2 Forwards we where Garbage just pass backwards and have no ergency going forward and are so slow in build up play
K. O. B
Andy Carroll - great answer!
redmersey {Ed001's Note - I agree, if he had been allowed to play for them it would have given us far more chance of winning.}
I would have brought myself on. It wouldn't have changed the result for the better but there would have least been one happy fan today
When Henderson went off, I'd have kept him on and brought on Sterling/Assaidi for Suarez. And possibly later on brought off Lucas for the other winger, which Rodgers was unable to do as he'd already subbed Henderson.
Red Ollie
Yeah we probably would of lost with all your expertise, get a grip people
Jj
Ed001 - If Andy Carroll had played for them today, I guarantee we would have lost. Have you seen the state of our back 4 in the air this season?
redmersey
07 Apr 2013 15:54:25
Siggi and dempsey help spurs get top 4 thank you fsg for not pullin out the money bcoz of your policy pf getting 'more for your money'
Jokers {Ed023's Note - Oh so it was just them who done all the work all season? Anyone know a guy called Bale? Give it a rest}
With the players playing the way they were? Nothing could be done. We couldn't complete a pass (or dribble for that matter) anywhere near the final third and aside from Coutinho it seems we've forgotten how to shoot on target again. Very poor from most of the attacking players.
I'm pleased we didn't sign either of them and hope we will target a higher caliber of player in the summer.
DT
Dempsey has done nothing all season and its been Bale's season. For the record dempsey is to old for the price and fsg did get that one right
07 Apr 2013 15:51:04
Kevin mirallas still better than 20mill downing. {Ed023's Note - And our "free" Steven Gerrard & Jamie Carragher are better than anything Everton has ever had, what's your point?}
07 Apr 2013 16:03:15
Great reply ed. I also hope downing is shiped out!
Malak
Yeah but is he better than coutinho because I thought they both played on the left and downing played on the right! Grow up and support! We played well but suarez had an off day. To be honest I would of put sturridge through the middle as suarez wasn't at it today in the final third. We should of put him wide.
07 Apr 2013 16:19:11
Ed. kool down relaax. don't get hyper.
what u recoken. Downing is better than Mirallas? {Ed001's Note - who cares over the age of 5?}
Malak don't be so stupid
07 Apr 2013 15:51:03
Just to make it even more frustrating Sunderland are beating Chelsea 1-0. great
07 Apr 2013 15:49:59
West Ham boss Sam Allardyce: "I am content, even though we should have won the game. We nullified Liverpool's strengths and created the better chances to score. I'm delighted. It's only the cost of our finishing that has cost us the three points.
"Jose Enrique kicked James Tomkins when we should have had a penalty but I am satisfied with the performance and result. We know we've created better chances than Liverpool, even though they had more possession. "
More bull from Fergies right hand man then.
How a clown like him can manage a premier league football team is beyond me. {Ed023's Note - He must be the most disliked man in football, I can't stand him}
07 Apr 2013 16:04:15
Big sam can eat a huge penis, better chances? they had a corner and 1 diame ride in the first half
i hope they go down
Malak
Ha that is the most ridiculous interview ever! What game was he watching?!
07 Apr 2013 16:39:30
hahahhahah. pathetic.
07 Apr 2013 15:45:34
That was a pathetic showing from br and the players why he took hendo off I do not know {Ed023's Note - What was Hendo offering? He went 4-4-2 and brought on Assaidi like everyone wanted and we went more attacking.}
What a clown. Some people haven't a clue what a job Liverpool is. There is so much work to be done. We were nowhere near a top four side, nowhere near I tell you, when BR took over. He is making progress.
Give the man some freakin time.
We got held out today. Annoying but it happens.
Davey Sulls
Hend was brilliant but he needs to more creative around the box if he wants to play AM. I think he is more box to box to be honest. If suarez was at it today we would have buried them but I guess you can't win them all!
Good post Davey, I know you are as disappointed as all of us today - I think it just highlights the need for us to add a little more balance and quality to the squad which BR has maintained in recent weeks.
DT
At Home to west ham he should have started 4-4-2 he is clueless as a manager doesn't no his best team or formation and his Plan A never mind B is Floored Palying 3 in the middle means we have no one in the box when we do mange to go forward
I still don't understand how he ended up at Liverpool
K. O. B {Ed001's Note - I don't understand why you think playing a 4-4-2 would be any different, as anyone who knows anything about footie would see that it would clearly be playing to West Ham's strengths anyway. Playing 3 in the middle does not mean we have no one in the box, we had no one in the box because West Ham had so many bodies in there it left no space. So the players were trying to move into space to draw out the defenders. It is not like any of our forwards are going to win an aerial duel with their back line anyway. I don't understand how you think you can judge the manager on less than a season, but then you are clueless clearly.}
K. O. B were you one of those who criticised BR for playing 2 in the middle against Southampton?
DT
DT and Ed 1 my point is away yes I understand 3 in the middle, but at home like at start of season when we play 3 in middle we never have anyone in the box the are all watching the play, but when we have two up top with some pace we can stretch the oppersition, and use the width and Rodger isn't looking to beat them in the air ed not his style so would not be playing into there hands if the players play it on the floor
K. O. B
07 Apr 2013 15:45:20
Nothing wrong with coming on here to voice an opinion as at the end of the day that is what the page is for.
Today's result sums up our season "consistency" one week good the next week ****.
Reality is we have become a top ten team which lives on past success, hate to say it but someone has to. I'm not bothered about all those plastic fans who come on here and have a pop back at me, but iv supported Liverpool for 45yrs and seen all the good times at the club.
Stevie. G will finish his career without a PL winners medal which is a travesty for a player of his calibre, but not for the lack of carrying Liverpool for the past 12yrs.
Suarez will definitely leave in the summer and you can't blame him Carra retires Stevie had maybe 2 yrs left at the top, and we are still years away from having a stadium that helps us compete with our rivals.
John Henry has given up on us too, when was the last time he visited a home game?
How many of our starting 11 today would make the first eleven of both Manchester clubs, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal and dare I say it Everton. 2 I reckon Stevie and Suarez the rest are a mix of potential, good, young and rubbish.
4 managers in as many years was unheard of for the first 40yrs of supporting Liverpool, 24hrs away from going into administration, I'm very concerned where my beloved club is going to end up.
Curled1
Try supporting the club instead of whining!
The owners haven't given up on LFC as you say but have been driven away from so called fans giving them death threats and what not. And I wouldn't blame them either for not attending
Havoc's Call
John Henry has stayed away because a mindless minority feel threats and abuse are an acceptable way of treating owners that continue to prop our club up.
DT
45 years then I suppose you should have a cool older head about all of this. I'm 27 and have been supporting Liverpool since 05 ( you know why ) and I know this sort of result will happen from time to time. A few months ago we would have lost today and last week for that matter.
ri red
07 Apr 2013 17:40:22
FSG have done nothing wrong. they didn't misplace passes today.
Malak
Support the club, don't dare have an opinion even if you have spent 40 yrs of hard earn cash doing so, just bury your head in the sand and think everything is hunky dorey or go and support someone else, who needs trophies, european football or a decent EPL position when we have our rose tinted spec's.
Dav
Well then Dav, stop spending your money. I'll buy your tickets
07 Apr 2013 15:45:19
Maybe you people who always predict the scores can once again learn to simply stop doing it cause you really are making yourself look ridiculous! Time and time I see all rubbish like I see a 3-1 win today and you actually try and name the scorers. On another note we have now blown Any chance of not only finishing in europa league but also once again finishing above everton. let's face facts were not going to sign the top quality that's much needed and I fear suarez will be off in the Summer. This is knee jerk reaction just someone who's facing facts and the majority on here need to do the same.
07 Apr 2013 15:40:55
That was complete and unadulterated s**t. That is all.
Liam
07 Apr 2013 15:38:12
Frustrating result. But give credit to West Ham who defended well. It just shows that our squad needs strengthening in the summer. Maybe to many forward players didn't reach there level.
We could have done with Andy Carroll today, as it was obvious Plan A was not going to work.
redmersey
07 Apr 2013 15:44:03
no credit what so ever. Liverpool sucked big time today, specially suarez.
Malak
Plan A didn't work because we couldn't complete a pass in the final third and overall were something just shy of awful on the attacking side. Some credit to Coutinho though, I thought he was the best of a poor bunch (attacking wise).
07 Apr 2013 15:33:24
What can you say about that match. First half really spelled out a 0-0 and that's how it ended. BR tactics do not work against teams that park the bus, but second half we had so many chances on the break and either coutinho, or sturridge or especially suarez would mess it up somehow. The penalty should have been given but I won't dwell on that because we should have done a lot more. We might as well never cross the ball into the box and corners are irrelevant when lfc are taking them. Watching suarez when a cross comes in is so frustraiting because he disappears behind all the defenders as if that's where the ball is going to go. poor game from everyone apart from agger and carragher. I like BR but the critics are correct, we do not have a plan B. {Ed023's Note - We didn't need a plan B today, plan A clearly dominated. A terrible ref decision and chances missed cost us}
07 Apr 2013 15:47:01
give it a rest ed023
the team sucked big time! I always support BR but today was rubbish, no urgency, no fluency and suarez what can I say? I have never seen him so bad!
Malak {Ed023's Note - So if we got that penalty, scored and won 1-0 you would posted that? I doubt it}
07 Apr 2013 16:07:48
i would! I def would
it was a horrible all around performance and we barley had 2-3 chances. why are you supporting rubbish?
Malak {Ed001's Note - have you ever thought that a lot of that is down to West Ham defending well?}
I think they defended well in that they didn't make any major mistakes, but overall, for me, I thought we were rather more poor than they were great. Losing the ball constantly, misplaced passes or passes to no one in particular, very little movement, etc.
07 Apr 2013 16:35:53
ed001, defended well? so many misplaced passes, so many failed dribbles, the players didn't turn up, johnson doesn't take a shot from 5 yards out or even cross it, but decided to run in the defender, It was a really bad performance from Liverpool, and nothing you say will change my mind! I still support BR and the club and I don't want to be negtive about anything other than that performance were not up to standards. !
Malak {Ed001's Note - you have done nothing but be negative! It is much harder to make passes when the defence is massed, there is much less space to aim for. Just ask Barca why they struggled against Chelsea last season. There were individual errors as well, plus a constant desire of the full backs to cut inside or make runs inside when the space was on the wings. That can't take away from the fact that West Ham defended well and made it difficult for us. You need to stop being so arrogant and realise that there are two teams on the pitch, both affect the result.}
Malak dare I say it you are spewing BS. You can't do anything if the opposition parks a bus even Barca and Bayern had the same problems against teams which park buses in front of goal.
And to agree with ed001 West Ham United did defend very well today so learn to give credit where its due.
Havoc's Call
Malak, you are starting to irritate me. more than my missus does! I see you on here thinking your the know it all about LFC and then you come out with some rubbish comments about today's game.
Fact is we player pretty well but west ham also played well, and were solid. and that's why it was a draw, simple as!
I agree with the ed that had we got that penalty, scored and consequently won the game 1-0, you would not be on here spouting you b*ll$#!t rhetoric!
Biggy Ballz
West Ham did defend well Ed 1 but out Team made it very easy to defend
K. O. B {Ed001's Note - not sure how you figure that out, but you just want to whine about anything obviously.}
07 Apr 2013 17:26:54
biggzy balls and the other one what is wrong with you? arrogant? don't be a disrespecful just because we have different opnions. did you watch the same game?
i try to be positive but I can't understand how you can be happy with that performance ed001?. OK westham defended well and had 10 men behind the ball, but aaaa you guys are so blind there is no point in arguing with you. (Nothing bad to be said about any player even if they play really bad).
i love and support livepool more than any of you hence the giant liverbird on my back, but to be honest I have been happier with other performances that we dropped points or even lost. iam saying the performance was not good, iam saying to many mistakes that wasent due to pressure or nothing. Lack of consentration. I said nothing about BR or sell no one.
Malak
07 Apr 2013 17:45:53
you biggzy are not even worth it.
You don't know me, you don't know what I would have done! or said! I wasent happy with the PERFORMANCE!
i would have been happy with 3 points, iam even happy we didn't loose but I am not spouting any rubbish! You talk about me like you have known me for 20 years, I would be embaressed to know you or call you a fellow red.
never speak to me again!
Malak
You must be a 10 year old. "don't talk to me again, I'm going to cry now". lol. At the end of day, you say you don't say anything bad but the team doesn't win and like some other fickle fans on here. "Suarez sucks, BR sucks, the whole team sucks" etc.
I think people need to get behind the team and just support them for the last few games. We need to be their 12th man. At the end of the day, west ham have always been a tricky team for us. We didn't play as good as we can but still got a point. The teams above us have to play each other and so will drop points so there is still a chance of us making up ground for 5th place, even an outside chance of 4th.
I don't need to know you personally, I can just tell your one of those fickle know it all types who has to be right and if someone disagrees, throws his toys of his pram!
And my friends call me Biggy not Biggzy but as you aren't a friend, you can call me Mr Biggy or Sir lol.
Biggy Ballz
07 Apr 2013 19:42:27
as I said you are not worth it.
i never speak bad about players or manager!
you don't know me and attack me with no reason
10 years old? I am older than your father. I am from egypt therfore my english isn't tip top. I have spent around £ 35 000 to see Liverpool games at anfield since 1987. (plane tickets etc)
if you spoke to me like that where I come from, god have mercy on your soul!
The day you are 10 % the Liverpool supporter I am, I will consider reading your BS! That will never happen!
Malak
07 Apr 2013 19:45:59
and shut up about top 5 already you fool. don't you see already that is impossible with our inconsistency. that's why I said bad performance. wtf?it was a terrible performance. I didn't slate BR or the Players. I said they played bad which they did. wallahy enta ebn marra metnaka haiwan ebn weskha!
Maybe I just realized that we aren't their yet after todays game and it made me sad for real! you are a bogus red. Biggzy balls? I think we neeed a microscope to see them!
Malak
07 Apr 2013 19:50:45
i will call you Curious George!
Malak
07 Apr 2013 15:30:03
We looked like we played a mid week game in Russia why are we so slow? We look like we can't be asked. worst ref in the league by far just to add.
Deanalfie
07 Apr 2013 15:29:39
And to rub salt into the wounds Everton are beating Spurs, typical, no Bale no chance.
07 Apr 2013 15:29:22
Please let's not be full of all this 'they sat behind the ball so what can we do' nonsense
Ive never seen a group of top class players give the ball away so much or take too many touches, its ridiculous, we're useless at corners whether it be defending them or attacking them and the first touch non existent, also why do we always have to try a fancy flick instead of getting a foot on the ball and playing a straightforward pass. not impressed, as usual we have a chance to close down on other teams and we blow it. and don't get me started on Johnson. can we have the old Johnson back please.
YNWA JFT96
07 Apr 2013 15:29:14
hi eds and reds
typical Everton in front. not good enough sorry
atlfc70
07 Apr 2013 15:28:47
I'm sorry but a 0-0 is not good enough at home.
Under KK at least we could beat the top 4 sides, now under BR we can't beat many above or below us.
It's just not good enough and no signs it will change. {Ed023's Note - That was some clueless statement there}
Block this I. D. I. O. T ed
What are you on about? {Ed023's Note - I assume you are the OP. First off, go look back at Kenny's home results last year and get back to me}
07 Apr 2013 15:28:25
suarez played woeful. typical inconsistent Liverpool, all a team has to do is park the bus and that's us stifled. no europa next season either. shocking.
M-H
07 Apr 2013 15:28:24
Poor performance! But the thing that got me was how selfish our players were today! let's not take something away from West Ham though, Collins and Tomkins were outstanding. You'd of thought they were part time bricklayers due to the wall they created at the back. Oh well. On to the next game!
Yes they were, but it' always easier when you are playing in a back 6 with 2 deep midfielders sitting in front of you as well.
07 Apr 2013 15:27:33
perfect! just f**** perfect. tottenham are loosing as we speak!
07 Apr 2013 15:26:50
That was awful, can't even beat a terrible team like West Ham, pathetic. that's the Europa ruled out.
07 Apr 2013 15:38:16
Agreed, I am ofically fed up with this rubbish. every time we have a chance to break some ground on those above us we drop points.
Thats why a lot of neutrals don't like lfc, west ham aren't a "terrible team", so stop looking down your noses and mouthing off like you are still in the 80ies because you aren't an elite team anymore and prob never will be again {Ed023's Note - Please, they are a poor mans Stoke}
Hardly that awful! If suarez was on it today he would have had a hat trick! We aren't far away and with a bit of tinkering in the summer we will be there.
07 Apr 2013 16:39:07
westham is by far the most horrbile team I have seen us play against this year! Enjoy big sam
Malak
It's not looking down noses you were s ite and made up with a point. Sams teams are everything Footy shouldn't be. (as are Stoke
07 Apr 2013 15:25:20
Jaaskelainen, one of the best keepers ever in the prem
I was hoping he'd have a bad day today
07 Apr 2013 15:43:26
he had 2 decent saves. what are you talking about?
Shots from every where that don't even hit between the sticks are not chances. Specially when suarez shoots shoots shoots, wtf? the hole team were horible and we had 2-3 chances that were straight at jaskeleinen. we even could have lost if lucas didn't clear the line. horrible horrible performance
Malak
Are you really telling me that you didn't think Jaaskelainen played well today?
07 Apr 2013 19:15:17
i am really telling you he wasnt really tested!
Malak
07 Apr 2013 15:24:04
Somebody slaughtered me for saying we don't have a clinical striker & we need someone like Chicharito.
Any comments seeing today's game?
Our clinical striker decided not to enter the box for whatever reason.
derryred
We have scored more goals than man city
Today wasnt finishing it was breaking down the defense and we ran out of ideas
I don't why you got slaughtered but chicharito isn't realistic. Manchester won't sell him to us and I doubt he would move to us. He would rather go to Spain or Italy if he moves.
the whole forward line had a bad game today and that can happen.
Chicharito isn't any magician. Even he had poor games.
Collins mate I am not saying we should get him. I am saying someone like him. We need a player who is ever present in the box. When Suarez does his magic there should be a poacher who thrives on his service.
07 Apr 2013 15:24:01
Poor Suarez or good Collins? Can't decide that?
Suarez not at his best today, it showed completely he was not his usual and everyone now Sam he plays physical game, we never had a second plan after realising in first few minutes that we won't break them as they parked the bus and defended only
Maybe something for next season to look at, how to unlock teams as stubborn as this
Two points definetly dropped, the game was as similar to WBA where at the end we ended up loosing
Dk London
07 Apr 2013 15:23:42
Well that was a bag of crap, bad decisions all day from every attacking player.
07 Apr 2013 15:23:05
Is there any point in Liverpool even taking a corner kick
We have needed a goal scoring centre back since big Sami left
Yeah! no height at all! we need to bring a center back has a knack of scoring goals regularly from set pieces .
Whats worse is we are constantly getting caught on the break from our corners which is suppose to be an attacking position especially when downing takes them
07 Apr 2013 15:12:29
West Ham just building a wall! Jeez! Chelsea v Barcelona much
London red
Totaly flat today,,, Suarez never gives up but Collins has him in his pocket, Joahnson terrible. poor team performance but credit to West Ham.
07 Apr 2013 16:43:50
Chelsea v barca?no mate Liverpool v westham slightly dif kettle of fish
07 Apr 2013 15:12:29
Sam Antichrist
07 Apr 2013 14:59:01
Nil niller by the looks of this rubbish.
Poor performance all around. Lucky to escape with a point.
07 Apr 2013 14:35:14
I really don't want to be one of these fans that criticizes our own players, especially at half time, but Johnson's skill going forward does not make up for his inability to defend or even track his man back. A full back that sprints forward with the ball and jogs back in to position really isn't a good defender.
All that being said I think we have to give the lads time, West Ham are more or less playing with a back six so it'll be tough to break down, but once the first comes more will surely follow.
always a red
07 Apr 2013 14:26:58
Most clubs know that they need to frustrate us in the final third. With Man United, you know you don't have
to give them possession final third.
Thats the difference.
07 Apr 2013 14:26:35
I have faith we will win, we'll break them down eventually
07 Apr 2013 14:23:22
Apart ftom goal done ok. little more attention nd keep hold of ball nd we can break the deadlock. suarez needs to go little on right or Henderson to help johnson. I don't know if downing was injured but good to see sturidge back as downing wasn't playing good.
Harry Oldbury
07 Apr 2013 14:16:48
Anfield so quiet - yet again!
Why go if you're going to sit there in near silence?
Give up the ticket for someone else who would love to be able to go and would sing his/her heart out!
07 Apr 2013 15:33:45
please shut up
cheer for what? I have never seen so many mistakes and wrong passes etc etc in my life. Suarez had a freekin shocker, and downing. uff. I won't even start on downing.
Malak
Why should I shut up, when it's clear that is what most people seem to do when they arrive at Anfield.
3 minutes in and the West Ham fans were out-singing the home fans.
Ever heard about roaring the team on? Giving them a bit of confidence? Create an atmosphere like the special european nights?
It makes me sick, these so called supporters that go to the match and just sit there. They probably only make a bit of noise if we score.
Fair enough they've paid for the ticket, but there are probably 10 people that would jump at the chance to get to a game and yet can't get a ticket. They then have to watch while Mr & Mrs Quiet sit there.
It's been way too quiet for years.
Something needs to be done.
Maybe they should stop carrying out 'Operation Anfield Exercise' and start a new one of 'Operation get the Crowd to Make Some Noise'.
07 Apr 2013 19:22:44
sorry for the shut up comment. I agree the supporters at the stadium need to be the 12th man. I was so frustrated with the complete lack of fluency and so many unpressured mistakes. sorry
Malak
07 Apr 2013 13:58:48
Diame has been hugely impressive again so far.
DT
3.5 mill aswell. snip. better than payin 10m plusfor wanyama r the like.
I agree he was brilliant and we can do a whole lot worse than snap him up on the cheap.
derryred
07 Apr 2013 13:51:07
Awful Downing.
07 Apr 2013 13:30:28
No Joe Cole today, but then I said a few years ago I hope I never see him at Anfield again.
07 Apr 2013 13:24:10
Would any1 be happy with a Liverpool football club like Arsenal. Wenger will never win the prem but his teams will never fail of getting in on 4th spot. Would that be good enough for Liverpool fans?
No i'd rather battle true the tough times with a young ambitious manager like BR and smart owners that invest money!!
He has won the premier league 3 times already so you are talking absolute crap do you not remember 03-04 the invincibles
Lfc Liam
07 Apr 2013 12:57:53
Does anyone know where I can watch the match online. I don't want to use firstrow as the quality is awful. I would appreciate some recommendations.
Cheers b
Try wiziwig.com mate
martin. p
Nutjob is good I think.
Streamhunter has been ecellent so far.
Kopping a feel
Lemon sport or sport lemon can never remember which way round it is
I watch first Row sports and usually get the added bonus of porno popups at half time. Better then listening to that tit Garry Nevil.
I agree with you about him being a tit but I have to say he is a really good pundit and he is unbaised I prefer listening to him than Craig Burley who really depresses me
Lfc Liam {Ed023's Note - I don't mind Neville the pundit and I agree 10000% about Craig Borely ;)}
07 Apr 2013 12:40:51
Hi edds just wondering what site would be best to watch the game today?
07 Apr 2013 12:26:56
EDD. If Skrytel (12m) Carroll (17m) Coates (7m) Assaidi (3m) get sold would all be added to the reported £20-£25m budget? If so that on top of saved wages would be a healthy pot for BR to work with. Cheers
Plus a lot of youth players will be moving like ngoo who has earned himself a move at hearts and Morgan. I wouldn't rule out borini or shelvey moving as well.
No-one will stump up 17 million for Andy Carroll.
DT
West ham would
No they won't, try listening to Big Sam and reading between the lines, they are going to do exactly what Juve and Milan did to us with Aquilani, they'll try and get him on the cheap. There move to the Olympic Stadium is proving more costly than first anticipated and they simply cannot justify the price tag and wages for Carroll at this stage - you do realise we are talking about an investment of in excess of 30 million in a player who has scored 6 goals for them so far this season. Big Sam is no fool he knows that there is better value on the continent.
DT
Firstly Skrtel isn't close to being worth £12m
Secondly £17m for Andy Carroll? Come off it fella.
Why would any team pay more than what we paid for Coates? He's hardly pulled up any trees; in fact trees move more quickly than him.
07 Apr 2013 11:44:01
ed001, I asked yesterday about how highly rated Baio, Nacho and Petterson are with the staff but it didn't come through. I hope you have time to share your opinion, would really appreciate it! Ynwa
Malak {Ed001's Note - funny you ask about Baio, I was having a chat about him to someone from a League 1 club (I don't know if I can say which one, as I forgot to ask him, so I will just leave it at that), we got chatting about Baio because of his recent use at right back. Anyway, he was telling me that they do an inquiry before each loan window to see which players are available for loan and were not given Baio's name this time round, even though he is now 18. He was of the opinion that Baio is now on the fringes of the first team, though he couldn't be sure. He was also full of praise for the way Baio had adapted to right back. Though I would have to say his reading could be way off the mark, it could simply have been down to the injuries we had suffered meaning we didn't want to let more out on loan.
Nacho is a difficult one, he has been struggling to break into the U21s, but he is only 19 and we do have a strong group of players there. He is still thought of as 'one for the future', who will be playing all across the midfield, left, right and central, to help his game improve.
Pettersson is also just breaking through from the U18s, into the U21s, but it is much more difficult for him. With Sterling dropping back down on occasion and the other talent we have in the wide areas, such as Dunn, it has been difficult for him. They still think his talent is such that he will force his way into the U21s, but I am told he needs to work hard to make the first team grade. He is still only young though, a lot can change in small periods of time, he certainly has the talent.}
07 Apr 2013 13:06:11
thankyou ed :) I really appreciate the answer.
Malak
07 Apr 2013 11:58:55
Can't wait to see the squad for the game today, I expect Assaidi will be named among the subs today and with Borini, Allen and Sterling possibly out I wonder if Ibe or Teixeira may be on the bench or perhaps Rodgers will go with Skertel and Wisdom.
DT
You reckon Liverpool could get 5th position still? or will it take a miracle
Fifth will be tough, but 1 game at a time starting with 3 points at home today and it's definitely achievable. It's 7 cup finals for us to try and snare fifth in the league we just need to get behind the players and the manager for the next 630 minutes and see where we end up.
DT
07 Apr 2013 11:31:49
Can anyone help? I'm not able to watch today's match live online. In these situations I would usually watch it on lfctv at midnight when they usually show the days match but on the listings it doesn't specify if it's showing the match.
Does anyone know if its possible to watch a rerun of the match after its finished online or if it is actually on lfctv at midnight?
Thanks
Jack the Groove
Fox soccer plus will have the game live and also available on demand all day after the match ends.
07 Apr 2013 10:45:57
Hi Eds and Reds!
Will be on a bus during the game to day and would like to know if there is some sort of web radio or something that could keep me updated? {Ed002's Note - If you have an iPhone or whatever there are plenty of apps available (TuneIn is very good). If you have access by other means there are numerous radio stations that broadcast across the web - find out who is doing the game and try their web site.}
I find Fotmob very good for listening to games
Cheera Chris, using FotMob working great!
07 Apr 2013 10:38:22
The match on telly today lads?
Looking forward to another 3 points c'mon the redmen.
Bristol red
07 Apr 2013 10:11:27
ed1 or ed2, I am heading to the Liverpool v everton match, it is fixed on the 1st sat in may for 3 oclock, is it definite to be played that day asnd time or could it still be moved? thank you
majestic69 {Ed002's Note - I think that there is every chance it will change - as will the Manchester United game. You need to wait until the TV schedules are confirmed.}
Thanks ed2 any idea when it will be announced?
majestic69 {Ed002's Note - I would think in the next few days - it will imminent.}
Also ed ngoo seems to be doing well at hearts what sort of fee do you think we would receive for him? 1.5m?
majestic69 {Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}
Ngoo will be staying at Liverpool and will either get a loan to a Championship team or be used as 4th choice striker by Liverpool.
He will not be staying, him morgan roddan have to be let go, they are not up to it
majestic69
07 Apr 2013 08:30:58
trade andy carrol for benteke
alonso in
williams in
valdes in
07 Apr 2013 06:36:16
hi ed,
can you please update me on Assaidi and why he is not playing and with the bits I have seen of him, he is not too bad to be with the first team squad. {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}
07 Apr 2013 00:52:00
We have to make sure we beat West Ham tomorrow, no slip ups, think we could close the gap a little.
Spurs will struggle without Bale and Lennon, I see Everton getting at least a draw. A win for Everton would be better than a win for Spurs, I think.
Chelsea will be back to the reality of the league after 2 cup wins, I think they might struggle against Sunderland, I see another draw.
With us still having to play Chelsea and Everton we need the results to start going our way. As it's starting to look like Arsenal will get 3rd place.
Everton, Chelsea and Spurs have got difficult run ins.
07 Apr 2013 00:28:13
Any truth in the rumour we insisted on Carroll playing tomorrow as part of the loan agreement:-))))